Hamish & Andy - 2024 Ep 262 - Marg Lee vs Kerry Blake

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Hamish finally receives the Moonwalkers and shows the guys his amazing new walking speeds, the guys come up with the idea for ConCon: A Worldwide Tax Deductible conference that all of the listeners are invited to. Chit Chat Champions is back with a twist, as Marg Lee and Kerri Blake take each other on for a special Mum edition. Plus, Jack's bashful about mentioning you-know-who, but keen eared listeners have found some damning evidence against him.  1. Moonwalkers first test 2. Power moves 3. Worldwide conferences 4. Chit Chat Champions - Mums edition 5. Mr. Ralph on the radio 

A listener production. Activate your internet because the Hamish and Andy podcast starts in 3, 2, sorry, still buffering. One. Ahoy to me, Larry, Hamish. This could go a lot of ways, but it might be Mark's Brothers. Mark's Brothers? Ahoy to me Mo.

Yes it is. We are. And I'm Curly, of course. There we go. The three stooges. Now that's... I can't really differentiate them. Which one was like the idiot one and which one was like...

Well then there's Groucho. Who knows their name for the mod? Groucho. Groucho just had the funny glasses. But yeah, just basically quite a lot of inventive ways to carry a plank of wood over your shoulder, get distracted, spin around, clunk your brothers in the head and... All the bottom. All the bottom. And that, again, you know, with it paying homage to associates in the same field as us, who were legends of the game, they were able to milk that for a decade, I think. I mean, I think that was, that was the absolute top of the pops.

Haim Lowry, recognizable for a large top bald spot and thick bushy hair on the sides, that is you? Well, that's not 100%. I wouldn't say it's a large bald side. I'd say I'm a victim of some very harsh down lighting from time to time, which can give an inadequate picture of the coverage. But if it's very, very focused down lighting,

you're unlucky to get that. And guys, a lot of guys who know what I'm talking about, look in the bathroom mirror and go, hang on a sec. Hang on, this is very harsh. Down lighting, that's what I'm falling victim to. Everything's A-okay, and I'm still in my late 20s. Jacko Moe. Moe.

Recognisable for his iconic bowl cut hairstyle. And the leader of the Stooges. Oh hello. Didn't realise. Moe's the leader. Can't rearrange him now. Leader. So he would probably have first choice of the plank. Yes. I'll carry the plank for us.

You guys just get hit in the head. Curly, I was bald and known for having an iconic high pitch voice. I was going to say someone had a silly voice. Yes. Yes. You do have an iconic high pitch voice. Also ahoy to Rhiannon who's in Namibia at the moment. You used HamishandAndy.com to upload what she's been doing. Ahoy boys, it's Rhiannon here. Currently working on a project in

northwest Namibia near the Angola border. Was pretty excited to download the latest episode of the Hat Prank today and had a bit of a drive back from the nearest town to the village where we're working and the car was full of topless women, babies, many, many men, all in their tribal traditional gear and we listened to the episode and I was laughing the whole way back. So were they no doubt. Yeah, they were laughing at me, laughing at you for half an hour.

It was a pretty special moment. Thanks boys. Beautiful. Laughter and hat pranks, the universal language. If only she could have shown them, because I imagine there could be, there could be a language barrier there or maybe she was on AirPods and it couldn't be shared, but I think if she could have seen the video, shown the video, no words needed.

Big hats are universally recognised as funnier. And a growing hat unbeknownst to a bystander. That's why we do it, Ando. That's why we do it. There's a spread of laughter far and wide around the globe. Haim, we gave you an assignment last week. Yes. So, look, I guess Jack and I prepared for what excuse

are you gonna give us today that you didn't get around to using the Moonwalkers, these robotic boots that you don't put on on socks, you actually clip over your shoes. Not like robotic sleds that go under your shoes. You also don't exert any more different pressure or style than just walking, but it makes you go as fast as a run. Walk at the speed of run. It has eight little electric driven robotic wheels in each sled. And they are an absolute stunning piece of kit.

Can I just tell you boys, there is no excuse. I have cracked them out, charged them up this morning, got them working. And I'm 20 minutes ago. I'm 20 minutes off my first ride. Like I'm really here. Yeah, I wrote him downstairs to get lunch before the show. Now, you know, he's got all his teeth. I'm really, I wrote him downstairs to get lunch before the show. Now, you know, he's got all these teeth. I'm normally seem to be and you're on time today, which maybe all you need is

the speed of a road ahead of time. And can I tell you this? Usually I would have to pick between grilled fish bowl, sometimes ramen. And look, you know, boost is that boost is there, but I don't have to. I don't really have time. Can't get them all right in the, in the, boost is there, but I don't have time. I don't really have time. Can't get them all right in the window. Grilled close at the moment, reduced the option to, I was like, okay, it's going to be fishbowl.

Ordered fishbowl. And I was like, I can make it to boost and back because of these boots. So already the Moonwalker's proving that you're adding achievements into your day by moving around at the speed of a run. Now, the first few steps, I've got some videos that we can put online. First few steps were a little tentative because you are learning how to do it. Oh yes, looking at that now, yeah, that, I mean, not that it looks cool at all wearing them, let's make that very clear, but that looks even less cool because you're now- I was actually moving slower than a walk at first.

You're moving slower than a walk and you look like a person that's decided to take a segue tour for the first time in a different city and doesn't really know how to use them and just petrified. All right, the smugness would come. The smugness would come. Okay, good, good. So at that stage, because you can switch them on and off too. So if you need to go upstairs or whatever, they can just go mute.

And did they lock the wheels? Lock the wheels. Lock the wheels. Lock. Yep. So in lock mode, how's that feeling? That just simply feels like you've gone out to get some takeaway food in very heavy clogs and that's an unusual Jack. I know you have Dutch heritage.

Your ancestors would be quite used to that. Um, that's just simply what it is. You're just out to, you're just getting lunch in a one kilo shoe and that's Jack, I know you have Dutch heritage. Your ancestors would be quite used to that. That's just simply what it is. You're just out to, you're just getting lunch in a one kilo shoe and that's completely fine. And do you have to bend down to turn it on and off, or is there some kind of heel click you can do? Great question, Jack. It's a foot gesture. So you move used to you two feet forward and then you put your pressure on your toe of your right foot and swivel that toe 90 degrees. Oh, do I have a bit of a time of a sore hip.

I assume that's from yesterday. It just gripped him. It can't be from the weight of the shoes. Don't worry about that play on. But you'll also see another piece of footage here. Once I got out and about and you get the hang of it. Oh my word. Wow, you really do move. Flying. At the pace of a run, but you get them. Oh my word. Wow, you really do move.

At the pace of a run, but you are walking. That's amazing. How casual does he look? We are going to put that up on our pipes. Pick your pipe. It looks like sped up footage if you didn't see other people walking in normal pace. I thought it was important, even though it was unsafe for the crowd, I thought it was important for my first run to be in a crowd.

You had to. So you could see the comparison. Because we had zero perspective and we saw other people dawdling by. The look on people's faces, were they like, what? Yeah. This is way, way better than I thought. Thank you, Jack. Did you?

It's actually really fun. Were you feeling confident then at that pace? That's where the- How do you stop? Yeah, you also realise, I'm moving, I'm moving through this crowd. You just actually slow down your walking. I can see why it takes an hour to get the hang of it. I mean, I was, that footage is like three minutes in doing it.

So you're a little bit out of control. You're a little bit out of control. You don't look it. Cheers. How did you stop? So you do it again. It's AI. It senses it learns your gait. So if you just, if you simply just stop walking, like it will stop, it's not zooming you along without your permission. It must stop you gradually because you're going at probably what?

How fast are you going? I reckon I got to the top speed, I reckon I got to 10kph. Oh, it's 10kph, okay. Seven miles an hour, I think is top speed. So that's like roughly 10. Okay, so 10kph. A little bit over, it's probably about 11. 11. So you look like roughly 10. Okay. So it's probably about 11. 11. So you look like

you're going quite fast there. When you decide to stop when you're walking, because it looks like you're normally walking, you are going at three K's an hour, four K's an hour. So you kind of can break and you don't have anything. Within two or three steps, it pulls you down. And there's a few little awkward like clunk, clunk, clunk starter steps at the end. But again, I assume that will go if I did do the pre, the required one hour of training on a flat surface, rather than just go straight to a food court. And you are in like an open shopping ball

with a very flat ground. Have you tried it on even a footpath or anything else? There's a three to 4% incline up to boost from fishbowl, which can tire even the most hungry of lunch shoppers. No, but it's still a flat surface. Like it's still a flat. It's an incline. It's what we're talking about is that is dead flat tile stone.

Yeah. Do you think- Oh, you want rocks and stuff? Well, no, just if there was a bit of raised bitumen because of a root. I'm just looking down at the shoes now and I just get the sense that they wouldn't care about that at all. They're very, they're very good. What are you going to use them for?

What are I not going to use them for really? I mean, you heard the testimonials the other week from the people on the show, 30 to 40 minutes extra with their family, they reckon it gives them. That's true. From that person that had a three hour walk to work. So, I mean, well done. Very, very successful. I think early signs here, early indications of success, early signs of success, early So, I mean, well done. Very rare that these are a success.

I think early signs here, early indications are that these are a hit. I reckon it'd be good to go for a bigger walk with them. Do you know, I reckon you would really get the feeling. Along Bondi, there's the big promenenade, like where everybody walks. It's, but it's also very wide. So you've got space to get around people. I think, I think you'd really, I'm going to, I want to take him down there. So you can get like a wide shot of just how fast this man. Do we get some pairs Jack? I am a bit jealous.

And we all do a nice lovely walk along Bondi together. Join me. Be the first time ever, first time ever I've had you join me on the other side of an impulse. I tell you what it reminded me of. In the year 2000, I worked at General Pants Co. in a Westfield and they were crazy days selling a lot of royal elastics for various music. They were a cool shoe at the time.

Popular with ravers. Anyway, I digress. My point being we were inside the Westfield, right? This General Pants. There was a group of 15 year olds, 12 to 15 year olds, who would get Razor scooters and come inside the shopping center and blast around. Now security, they didn't like this and they had an eye out for these kids, but the kids would always go, there's no sign that says we can't scoot in here. Because of course, Razor scooters were so new, no one had updated the sign yet. So I was like, no rollerboats, no skateboards, no bikes in here. But they're like, Hey, show us a sign. Show us a sign,

as they just scooted and laughed at the security. And I thought, that's where we're at now with this. We can get into Westfields, we can get, we can go anywhere we want and walk at the speed of a run and there ain't a damn thing the authorities can do about it because this is a classic case of technology outpacing the sluggish machine of legislation and sign making. Here's a suggestion, Jack, attempt to weasel on them. Yep. Yep. Why not? I mean, they're 1500 bucks, man. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, but just send them a... You know how to weasel.

You got their email now, so you know how to weasel. You can do that. I'll be happy to. Just send the details. See, that's the part that he still needs help. I'm not your weasel assistant. I'm not your weasel. Surely you have like the invoice. Google it. I'm not your weasel butler. I'm not here to just give you weasel food on a plate.

You have to do the work. I'll tell you what we should do. Have we invested our assai money yet? You know, we were going to invest in... We couldn't really find a place. I think we look at dumping it into this company. No. Here's my next question.

When do you reckon your pair will be on Facebook, Marketplace or eBay? Now these are a valuable addition to my family. February. Aim, they keep coming in and it keeps giving us and all our listeners the advantage in social situations so we should jump into some power moves. This comes in, I've got one here from another Hamish, another Hame seller. It goes, guys, power move for you. When you're getting off a tram or a bus, when you hop off, smack the side of it twice to

let the driver know you're off. This makes it seem like they're your private driver rather than just doing their job and driving off as required. It's a good one because it's the same tap my dad gives me. On the boot? My dad for some reason feels like he should be the one to close the door when you've got in, if that makes sense. Like he's doing the final goodbyes and stuff.

And then he'll go, all right, put your arms in. Is everything you're all inside. And then he closes the door for you and gives it a tap like. So if you're the driver, he'll close your door. Yeah. And same if you, if he's on the passenger side as well, he'll be chatting away. He's holding the door chatting away and he'll go, all right, get your arms clear. He sees himself as like ground crew.

I'll operate the door. Clearance to go. So I think I've got that vibe. Good Nick. This is from Tom Squire, a Squire from the UK. Power move. As you check into a hotel, be typing on your phone and tell them that you're currently living, leaving a bad review, but are willing to change it if he has a good experience.

The bonus points. Be sure to ask the name of the person on the desk cause then they know that they'll be in the review. It's not bad. I mean, you could go a gentler one just to go, I'm actually in the middle of leaving a review. Like what was your name? Cause I'm doing the review live. Anyway, how'd we go with the upgrade?

That's exactly how it should happen. Uh, Ando, this comes in from Troy. Troy says, guys, not sure if you're aware of this, but there's a great book called Surrounded by Idiots. I like to bring it along to important work meetings. Bonus power move if you can whip it out and give it a read mid meeting. Ideally when the most senior member of the team is talking.

I like it. read mid meeting, ideally when the most senior member of the team is talking. Like it from Mark. He says, Power Move. Received an email today sent to myself and six others with some basic instructions about a change in processes from my manager. Gotcha. Immediately after I received an email just to me that said, let me know if I've confused you. Good. Real good. This is from Imogen.

It's a move her boyfriend's doing on her. She doesn't say this, but it is definitely a bit of a jerk power move, but I think we'll appreciate its power. My boyfriend and I both think we're pretty funny. We've been together for a while. He's recently started saying after I make a joke and get a big laugh, the boyfriend says, I've definitely made you funnier. It's devastating. It's a good power move because honestly, arguing it does not help me at all. It's unrecoverable from. It's from Tom. Tom Russell. Can be used in any group social setting.

When someone asks someone else in the group what they do for work, let the person respond and then chime in with, is that the job your dad got you? Yeah. Doesn't matter what the field, it'll appear they couldn't get the job for themselves. Just think about my dad getting me this job. Haim, we had a lot of fun last week with when you developed a brand new game involving tax and how tax ideas are interesting when making deductions. A lot of fun. And I think the ATO would agree it was a lot of fun too.

If anything really brought up in the context of the game can surely be seen through the lens of mirth and the spirit of fun that we all have. We all have with the ATL and we recognise the great jobs they do. I think spirit of mirth is really what they're... Oh, the ATL, it must be on their wall. It'd be on their wall. One of the core principles. Exactly.

We finish mid-year, not the end of the year. We're the ultimate Merfsters. How's that? How's us completely changing the calendar for everyone? They love a laugh. In that conversation, John, our tax accountant, as you guys are trying to weasel through overseas holidays as a legitimate tax deduction. He did sort of draw the line there, even though Jack, if I remember correctly, you made the very, very well argued link between a painter going on a holiday to a colorful country and a necessary business expense, like, you see different colors, color. Yes. And then I think the chef was going to the spice aisles again, the chef that didn't

know about the supermarket aisle to get spices, he instead needed to go to Indonesia. So there were some great arguments made, but he did push back on that on just a free for all holiday. But he did keep saying conferences. If you're going for a conference, that's okay. He'd do it in a muttering way to himself, which made it think as, oh, I suppose if it's a conference. It came up time and time again. It just seemed like it's the world's greatest tax write-off. Yep. Conference.

It was almost like Indiana Jones, wasn't it? It was a bit of a penitent man. He's like, oh, conference, conference, conference, conference, conference, conference is good for networking. So we think that we should provide that for everybody. We were like, okay. Yes. Yeah. To get away and for us all to be able to get a networking slash write off conference, cause it seems like certain companies are doing it well.

Others need to catch up. Here's the, I think why I speak for all of us when we come away going, are you telling me that after say 20 odd years of putting in a tax return, we've never utilized this conference situation. Surely there's other people in the situation that aren't utilizing conferences as a great way to claim some expenses. And a legitimate way too, because,

so we're not saying, hey, just pretend you went to a conference. No, no, no. We're like, what if we can provide the conference? That will have a specific segment on your line of work. So it's completely legitimate. Yep. Conference for all. The conference for all.

And for all the conference. So anyone from any line of work could write in and say, I'm a painter, so. Yep. Will there be something that makes it legitimate for me to come to the conference? Absolutely. So here's what we're thinking. Some day towards the end of the year, we select a venue which will need a large conference center.

Yeah, and adjoining golf courses. Well, you have to network around it. So there will need to be some facilities. Golf course is a great example of a facility where people might enjoy going to network, but there will need to be a real network infrastructure around the conference location. Because everyone knows a lot of the great learnings really come from their other events, which then in themselves become tax deductions, we would absolutely argue. So the conference for all, it's almost like conference con, isn't it? Con, con.

No, but that does sound like now we're trying to con the ATO. Oh, right. That's for us, though. And imagine if we get away with it, Jack. That's like being the usual suspect. The red flag was chipped when he did call himself Robert McPheefe. No, con-con's good. Conference con. Con-con.

A conference for all. Con-con, a conference for all. Conference convention. So I think because this is early, early days, why don't we put up on the website, Ham? Register your interest. Would you come? What if it was held at, I know for example, you know, I know Hawaii has some great conference

centers. Oh yeah, that's nice. Obviously places closer to home. I mean, the Goldie definitely has some great conference facilities. Great conference, Port Douglas. That'd be a very good conference center. We'll assess the best place to learn. Because remember too, you need to be relaxed to learn.

There's no point dragging everyone to a remote island off New Zealand or something. Too cold to learn. Yeah. Too cold to learn. So people, so again, I'm a worker, like I'm a painter or a butcher. Yes. I pay my own way to the conference so that I can claim it back. That's what we're providing for you.

Yep. So let's say you're coming to Port Douglas. And take any work colleagues if you needed to. Yep. Coming to Port Douglas and if you are a butcher, you've put that on the form, I'm a butcher, so there needs to be some butching content at ConCon. And we get that and we go, yep, we guarantee at ConCon, everyone's profession will be addressed. And could we promise an interesting fact? Like you know, you will learn something about your profession.

You'll also get a chance to talk to people from other professions. That's right. If you already knew the fact, that doesn't matter. It doesn't hurt to sharpen you up. No, exactly. Cause a lot of people go to conferences and just hear the stuff they're in you, but it helps sharpen you up. Sharpen you up.

Yes. I don't think the ATOs are going to come in and go, oh, it says here you went to a dentist conference, you know, in, in Los Angeles and didn't you already know how to be a dentist, you've claimed dentistry for the last five years. You're like, yeah, but it doesn't hurt to sharpen up. Sharpening up. Right. So then we'll organize based on how many people are interested in professions.

Sorry, can we, we can't go con con, a conference for all, a great place to sharpen up. It is getting long. It is getting long. Because we only just started this idea. It's probably six months away. Often they'll get a key speaker. I mean, that could be us. But remember Imran Khan to talk about Radiohead?

Like a famous, this is before he was Prime Minister as well. I think... Yeah, ex-Pakistani cricketer. Ex-Pakistani cricketer came out to talk about radio, which seemed interesting as a choice. But I think that's... Well, he out to talk about radio, which seemed interesting as a choice. But I think that's what he wasn't talking about. Radio. I think he was just talking about cricket leadership, some funny tales from test cricket and get a draw card. Then you could apply to radio.

Yeah. And so we could get a guest speaker like that. And if they're broad enough, just talking about leadership, every job needs a leader. That's true. That's really true. Maybe we just go just just keep it general. A very general guest speaker. So if you're going to talk about leadership, talk about following as well. So you just got everyone. And then you know what else we can do?

I know we're looking at looking at, this is, you know, again, six months, we've got time. If we're looking at that place is to hold it, you know, I was actually researching conferences a little bit because I was fascinated by this, the world of conferences, not unusual for the big conferences, for the big ticket conferences, like cities will bid. They'll go, we want to have, you know, Comic-Con here or whatever. So they'll be like, come to us and we could, we could, you know, yeah, we

could sort of smooth things over for the red tape side of things. Oh, that'd be cool. Interesting. So it's like Singapore puts an official entry in to have us host the conference day. Yeah, for that big surfboard pool hotel. Absolutely. Okay. Really interested in that, Jack. Have they said anything?

They haven't said anything, but I mean, I don't know how we put feelers out that we're doing a big conference and that cities should get involved. But let's just make sure we've got the conference sorted first. Let's not forget though that this is a service to the people. It's a conference for all and we are providing you the chance to travel to a location that we think will be conducive for networking. Hamishmoney.com for an obligation free... Expression of interest.

Expression of interest. Just so we get a rough vibe of what size venue we might be wanting and the type of businesses that we may have to include in the presentation that of course your business will be addressed. And this would be around about November 2. So let us know if this works as a sort of an end of year thing for you too, before the Mandator Break shuts us down. Yeah.

Yeah, Mandator Break. That's annoying. But I think that's about when we'd probably look to do it towards the end of the year, wouldn't we? Sounds good. Sounds really good. This is exciting because we're going to play a special edition of this. Chit-chat champion. Hey, off the back of a small thing I put together about people, would they recommend the Burnley Tunnel on

a rent-a-car form? Yes. A lot of people heard my mum talking about tunnels a lot and the regular feeling from my girlfriend and hogs and stuff was why are you talking about this? But it did show that mums have a great ability just to be interested in you no matter what you're talking about. They can get in there and fill the space. Yes.

So the suggestion came in from multiple listeners is, gee, would Marg Lee be a great chit chat champion? This is a competition we have where we test people's chit chat. Who's the best at Smalltalk? And we thought, look, that's a very good suggestion she has a knack for. And we thought, who would be a worthy opponent? We thought, well, if your mum's on, might as well get my mum on as well. So Kerry Blake versus Marg Lee for Chit Chat Champions.

We have both mums joining us now. Marg and Kabo, how are you? I'm doing very well, thanks. Good. OK. Now, we know both of you don't know what this segment is. Correct? No, no idea. No idea. OK. Mum, you don't know what we're doing, really.

So I'm going to explain it, OK? No. Thank you for that. Okay. We play a game called Chit Chat Champions where Hamish starts a conversation. It's normally one line. I then answer him and you, both you or Kerry, you'll play it individually, have to jump in with the next line and keep the conversation going. You can't ask the question. It's a test on how good you would be in a social situation, say a party, and keeping a conversation going with complete strangers that you might have just met. Right.

Right. So it's a tough one because we don't all, we also don't... I'm not good at that sort of thing. I'll tell you now. Well, I don't know. You're pretty good with tunnels. I mean, that sort of no hesitation is exactly what you want when it's game time, Mark. The thing that we have to stress here is to, for first time players of the game, we will not tell you when to talk. It will be me saying something, Andy saying something. And then part of the challenge is you sensing the time to come in with your next piece of the conversation. So you are both trying to construct appropriate content

on the fly, but also time it properly to come in and kind of make it's that next piece of information, that next piece of conversation that's sort of interesting and keeps the ball moving down the field in the right direction. Easy to talk about, it is tough to do. Does that make sense? It is tough to do. Does that make sense? No. Mum, I think it does. I'll go with Kerry's thought. Yeah, go with Kerry's. Now, as Andy said, you'd be playing individually.

So we put one of you on hold and you can't hear how the other person goes. But just know you both get exactly the same conversation. So I'll say something, Andy will say something, and then there'll be a gap where you pick the right time to jump in with your next piece of conversation. So it's a level playing field and you can't hear how the other person goes. OK. OK. OK. Mum, I'll give you a little bit of time to contemplate that, but you won't be able to hear what's going on. Let's start with Cavo.

Are you ready to go, Kerry? Yep, as ready as I'll ever be, I think. That's true. You can't really train for this. You can't. Well, I've had many, many brilliant conversations with your mum since we were 19 years old, Ham. Likewise. So I think it's going to be a pretty formidable battle we're about to go into. She's used to these players.

That does give mum a slight advantage. All right, Kerry, good luck. Thank you. G'day, Ando. How are you going? Yeah, good, thanks. Hey, the Tour de France just wrapped up. Great addition.

Yeah, yeah. I didn't catch much of it, but I did watch it a little bit on the app. Well, you guys are way ahead of me. I haven't watched any of the Tour de France, although I know I should take an interest, having a cyclist enthusiast in the family. Wow. That's pretty good, Martin. Pretty good.

It wasn't until we started doing that I realised you do speak a bit of French as well. And I thought if Mum gets warmed up here, we could hear some French. And when you went for cyclist, maybe she is going for some French. Oh, really good. Cyclist enthusiast is a very difficult double word to go. Level difficulty. Hi there, Cabo. You picked the timing very well.

I think it's going to be tough to beat, but we'll put Kerry on hold now. Hop in the, you hit the showers? Not literally, mum. You do have very long showers. We need you after this. Mum, you there? Yes, I am. Great. It's your turn to go.

Okay. Okay. And it's obviously, Hayme will start the conversation. You've got to pick your timing when to come in and then add to the conversation. You can't ask a question. I can't ask a question? No. Well, what's the point? The point is to continue the conversation, but we think it's too easy if someone asks a question. So just adding a little level of difficulty.

Alright. You've got to grab the ball and run with it. No passing it straight away. I could. Ah, g'day, Andy. G'day. My Tour de France just wrapped up. Another great edition of La Tour. I didn't catch much of it. I just saw a little bit on the app. Oh, that's a great show to watch.

Very good. That's true, that's true. She's sent her piece.? She said her piece. She said her piece. And left the conversation. Bring Kerry back. Actually, not a bad move to just say, yeah, that's a great show to watch and wander off to go, mate, I'm not going to I'm not going to hold the conversation for you.

So, Mum, let's just unpack yours for a second. We did the same with Kerry. Yeah. You know what the Tour de France is, don't you? Yes, it's a bike race. Yeah, but you wouldn't call it a show. Would you? Great asana.

You're right. I should have rephrased that as, well, it's still a show. It's on television. No, no, that's not a rule. Everything on television is not a show. Would you say the news still a show. It's on television. No, no, that's not a rule. Everything on television is not a show. Would you say the news is a show? Well, your father watches it all the time, nonstop, three o'clock in the morning. So I'd say it's a show.

Yeah, it is a show. It's an absolute circus. Yeah, exactly. I mean, for a second, I thought you were thinking there is the Netflix show that sort of is about the Tour de France, which you could get away with going. Yeah, no, no, I'm talking about, I'm talking about watching the Tour de France on the television. Yes, yes. And the other part that I found interesting was I think your entire attempt was just five words or something. Did you think not to add anything else or you'd really nailed it and just was, was just was out of there?

Exactly. Well, it's best to be short and sweet. Well, it can be. Unfortunately, Mum, for you, but triumphantly for Kevo, my second mum. Kevo, thank you. Well done. You are today's Chit Chat champion. I'm sure she will be. We're going to send you out a token of thanks. Well done, Kerry. Oh, thank you, Mike.

It's a long time since I've won anything. Very calm under pressure, Mum. Superior poise. Congrats on the SP. And we will talk to the Mums later. See you guys. Bye, bye. Bye, boys. Bye. Bye, bye.

Bye, Mum. You can hang up now. You can hang up now, Mum. I don't know how to. Mum, are you still there as well? No, me is still here. My dad's thrown it on me. I thought Mum had hung on to it. The big red circle. That was the entry. Don't just go give it to Dad.

Just look at the camera. Look at the phone and at the big red circle. She's gone. She's gone. She's got it. She's gone. She's gone. She's gone.

She's gone. She's gone. She's gone. She's gone. She's gone. She's gone. She's gone. She's gone. She's gone. Red circle. Don't just go give it to dad. Look at the camera. Look at the phone and at the big red circle. She got it. She got it.

Jack, it'd be fair to say that I get the fact that you don't like us talking about a certain someone. Yes. It's come to mind. I thought there was a kind of nod of agreement that we won't talk about Mr. R anymore. There certainly was. Yes, there was. No, there was a nod. A firm pledge and a pack supported by T-shirts.

I don't know how much more we could have done. Again, I haven't looked whether they're any available still, but I want to put my hand up today and just say, enough's enough. We'll have one last look back at it. But I'm putting my hand up and saying enough is still enough. Because I really thought we'd, we have absolutely locked the box. Yes. But maybe I hadn't, maybe I wasn't aware of how much we'd jeopardize this perfect deal for you. This is for people who just joined the pod, welcome.

But it's a long backstory. But Jack has a certain fellow that helps him with discounted flights, business class, underneath the price of economy. We won't say his name. It's all behind closed doors. So the more we talk about, the more exposure we give it. I just feel like we run the risk of Yep. Keep the doors closed and keep the curtains shut. What we're doing at the moment is peeking through a window so we can see a little bit of what's... Don't even be on the property.

So it has been painful. We lost our footy. We were just looking for our footy. To bring people up to speed of how troubling it's been for Jack. We've put this together for him. up to speed of how troubling it's been for Jack, we've put this together for him. I actually don't even like talking about it because I don't want someone to go, you know, an American to be here and hear it and go, oh, Mr. Ralphie, they're talking about you on an Australian podcast and then he closes the door.

No, no, no, I don't want him, any excuses for him to turn off the tap. Turn off the tap. What do you come on the show? Jackal ready the look of disdain. I don't even like talking about it. I don't want to jeopardize anything. I actually don't even like talking about it.

Don't let yourself go. I'll talk to Bianca. No, no, no. Well, I'm going to text her now. Don't. No, no, no, well, I'm gonna take some now. LAUGHTER Don't, don't... Just... I just don't want it. No shit, Jack!

MUSIC PLAYS It'd be fair to say that within your household, we're a worry levels at. Hold it up, hold up, fingers out of 10. Yeah, we're getting close to the top. Have you spoken to your partner Bianca about the fact that you divulged a hell of a lot about Mr Ralph you went back? No. I've seen spoken to Bianca, your wife, she didn't formally send a cease and desist letter but the tone of voice was definitely of that time. It wasn't two thumbs up, go we're all loving this over here on our side.

Lots of things that are funny come to an end. Seinfeld was very funny but they brought it to an end and I felt like Mr Ralph had run his course of funniness. Yes, we thought the same, we're reading you loud and clear, That's why we created the pledge. That's why, Haim, this week I was shocked when our loyal listeners sent in this bit of audio from you on the Christian O'Connell show. People who listen to the show have got to stop listening to the other show. Well, you do do shows. And what can we tell you? You can't keep us siloed. Okay. There's going to be some spillover. Are you just saying this, Jay, because you, without hearing what this is, it's very early

in the morning when you do the Christian Iconical Show. So you would just prefer to not have to think carefully about what you're saying. There's just so many, like three hours a day, five days a week. There's so much saying to me. There's just so many, like three hours a day, five days a week. There's so much time to feel, I don't know what this is, but you can't, you just can't bring this in as evidence day after day podcast after podcast. How could you talk about working too hard when you're sitting here in front of Mike, who every week has to think of three correlated things, taking him well more than 15 hours from what I understand.

All right, here we go. Tell them about the time waster, your plane songs. All right, let's clear the runways. Let's get these big birds up in the sky. Oh, we begin with this one, a reference to a good friend of yours. Someone's got a great recall. Mr. Ralph at number one for Jack I've done this out there don't know the song of course I

know the reference the man who helps us get discounted flights to the US thank you mr. Ralph and that us is Jack and his family okay so that's very kind we're not included but what a great contact the best what heavily heavily discounted what we're talking 80% you would be sickened yeah so you would be sickened sickening whether not like first class for economy fair we go business class for less than the price of economy get out of town sickened I asked me sickened he sickersens. That is... Shout out to Mr Ralph. Sometimes the universe just gives you a special friend. I just said you have an abundance of those.

Mr Ralph. Jack! Jack, you're telling us to not talk about it in your waxy, miracle-ful moon it's about! And you even said thank you to him! Which you would only assume is in the hopes that we get back to him. You can hear though the hesitation in my voice. I may even, I feel like I'm slinking away from the microphone as I said it. I don't think so.

But also there's a part of professionalism in me that as somebody's mentioned, I feel the need to give it context so that everybody listening knows what's going on. There's two lies. You didn't sneak away and you're not professional. Here's the thing, Jack. I think I'm, I was always worried as you were that the day might come where the tap turns off and that we would be in the firing line, not just from you, but

from your wife's family. Yes. I think now that you've gone and done that, we're completely immune. This show has made noise for a year. No, no, no. That was a live radio broadcast on Melbourne's number one FM breakfast show. Should the tap turn off, there's absolutely no way that we're the stick in the system. There's no T-shirts being made over there.

I think that was it. I think that was the thing you could, that's the smoking gun, or it was certainly enough that we couldn't be prosecuted. That's what I like, Ham. That's exactly how I felt about it. It's now, it's muddy waters. If you get turned off. Very muddy. It's very clean water to me. Very clear what I like, Ham. That's exactly how I felt about it. It's now muddy waters. Very muddy. Very clean waters to be. Very clear to see through the water.

Don't take it up with us. Take it up with the old mob over there at the radio station. So, don't us a favor. Many reference. I still, you'll notice, haven't said his name once this whole time. Whereas on the radio show, oh, seems to be a, well, the opposite of secret sound is, say it as much as you can.