Hamish & Andy - 2024 Ep 272 - Hamish Blows Something Wide Open

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

Andy brings Bec into the studio to reveal something massive for Hamish & Jack. Hamish finally comes back to Blow Something Wide Open. Musical guests have begun putting their hands up for ConCon, and listener Luke may have lost touch with the common man...  1. The Aura Ring - Bec’s confession 2. Extreme Empaths 3. Blow something wide open - Tuna 4. ConCon - Musical guests 5. Luke's lost touch test 

A listener production. Activate your internet. Because the Hey Mission and the podcast starts in 3...2... Sorry, still buffering. One. Ahoy to my B-Sod, Hamish. B-Sod, yep, cool. Yeah, am I in an acronym?

Like, yeah. You're going on my channel. Blokes seriously over Dress. Daylight. Yeah, overdressed, I'm a vampire. Just a bloke seriously over daylight. I'm not a vampire, not a vampire, just seriously over daylight.

I'm just one of the blokes that won't go in daylight. I'm not a vampire, not a vampire. Just seriously over daylight. I'm just one of the blokes that won't go in daylight. No, no, surprisingly not. There's no need for that acronym. I'll be werewolf. Ahoy to me 404. Jack. Are we error? Are we error codes?

We are computer error messages. 404 is the classic. I didn't know there were others. Jack, classic and a bell. Yes, the beast side was the. I didn't know there were others. Jack, classic developers. The Beast side was the critical era displayed on Microsoft Windows just recently. It's the blue screen of death. Oh, was that that outage? The big outage, yes.

The crowd strike outages. I was going to be the red ring of death. I don't even know what that is. Xbox 360, that's when you know that your consoles had it. And then obviously the 404. HyperX, Transpor, Protocol. Is it Microsoft Xbox? So you think they'd use the same colour

for Windows as they would for Xbox? I think it's not on the screen for Red Ring of Death. I think it's a red ring around the button on the console. I have seen that before, and it's an absolute weekend ruiner. Really bring the mood down. But yeah, 40 and it's an absolute weekend ruiner. Bring the mood down. But yeah, 404, absolute classic. Page not found.

Often, 404 brings back memories. So you know how you have some businesses in your life that you're like, this is just the worst website and I have to go to, you know, sometimes you have that one website in your life that you have to go to often. And I've got one in my life and I won't name and shame them, but always it's like, oh, you're having trouble logging in, oh, just go to our membership inquiries page, we'll sort you out, go to that, 404. And you go, someone's having fun with this.

They've designed this deliberately as a labyrinth you cannot get out of. On our website, the Havocity website, we should have complaints linking to this straight 404. That'd be nice. I've clicked on unsubscribe from an email before and got 404, which is very convenient. That's awesome. That is awesome. Yeah, I love that. You'll all like to manage your preferences, go to this page. And it's all just like, yeah, tell us what you think. Like, no, no, no. Where is the button? Where is the button? Ahoy also to Eva in London, who used the very easy to use system. Didn't get a 404 with HamishNanny.com. Worse than a 404. Had to use our system.

And to upload what she's been up to. Ahoy Hamish, Andy and the little boy. It's Eva from London here. My brother Tom and I recently got back from watching the Dutch Grand Prix and as McLaren fans we were very, very excited to cheer on Lando and see him take home the win. Or as a Salacious headline might read, Brit abroad ignites chaos in rival territory as he steals from resident Dutchman in front of angry mob of locals. We were also very excited to see a surprise appearance from one Mr Andy Lee as his Dutch

alter ego Snullaballa Kez. Who knew? Love the podcast boys, keep it up and we'll keep spreading the word about it here in the UK. Good on you. Reference that needs no further investigation. No further explanation. We all know that you're Snullaballa Kez.

I wouldn't even know what to Google with that. Hey, Jack. Yeah, I guess we're just letting that one go. Yeah, I think we have to. Andy has an alter ego in Holland. Yes. Can I just say, though, please no Formula One spoilers. I, like many people, watch Formula One only in February when Drive to Survive comes out. I try and void it for the whole year.

Even months later, don't tell me who won the Singapore Grand Prix, that's for TV in February. Okay, noted. Guys, I said I wanted the top of the show, and I'm gonna take a bit of a U-turn here, because we've been having fun. We love fun on this show. But sometimes you get embroiled in a controversy

that you didn't know you were a part of. Maybe it is you being Stalabalake in Holland. You've been framed. Sometimes you've been peddling a mistruth because you thought it to be true. You've been peddling one. Yes. And it turns out it wasn't. Andy, Andy, don't peddle mistruths. I know, because obviously this is our way to connect with people. I want to bring my partner in, Bec.

We've got something to tell everyone. As a couple. Come on in, Bec. We haven't been renovating a giant mansion. We just found a vacant block and we've been in there smashing it up, trying to get likes on Instagram. Hello. Welcome, welcome.

Hi, guys. Oh, hi, Bec. What a treat. Usually you're just being pranked. But I mean, now that you're in here live, you... You're unprankable. I mean, you know you're on the show for once. Something has come up that shocked me.

And I've brought Beck into tell her side of the story. This is so rare for me to give Beck an equal and fair voice on the show. It's definitely a trap. And he would only be doing this if he knew he was in an unlosable position. Unfair. But wildly accurate.

To bring everybody up to speed, there was an incident at a resort in Fiji that I told everybody about on this podcast. And for those people just joining us, maybe for the first time, welcome. We welcome all new podcasters. But this is what went down. Previously on the Hamish and Andy show Andy's entire extended family were on holiday at a resort in Fiji when disaster struck. During water aerobics Beck lost her aura ring. Oh, the fitness tracker. A little fitness tracking ring that she's on, that she is very passionate about.

Sure. She loses it in the pool. There was, however, a slight misunderstanding. She's yelled out, I've lost my ring. Everyone's thinking it's a wedding ring. A bit of panic sets in. We've got to help. The resort quickly sprung into action.

The guy on the microphone calls everybody from the resort that's got their bathers on, as another great attendant Fijian guy runs up The guy on the microphone calls everybody from the resort that's got their bathers on as another great attendant Fijiing guy runs up with all the goggles from the snorkeling section. Suddenly it becomes an emu bob for Bec's Aura Ring. Well they think it's an engagement ring. Because on the scale of rings the only thing less valuable really, with no offence to Aura,

is like a baby of Burger Ring. Yeah. I know. It's like, it's basically a novelty ring. Knowing how many people were now involved, Andy sought confirmation from Beck. You sure you were wearing it? Yes, yes, yes. That's gone.

We've got to call this off. No, I really want it. You really want it? It's going to look like I gave you a plastic gold ring. I don't care. Beck wanted the ring so much, almost the entire resort is on the hunt. We've got 45 people participating in the ring, Bob.

Triumphantly, my nephew, Fred, finds it. He then gets the ring back to Beck. She puts it on exits very quickly. And Fred now is the only one that knows it wasn't the wedding ring. That's what I was gonna say. It's great that it's in the circle of trust. So seemingly a happy ending for all.

But for Andy, there was a strange feeling he couldn't shake. As someone who gets embarrassed so quickly, for her to persist with 45 people searching for an aura ring to me is a confusing, not enough to call off the wedding, but I don't sit there and go... Whoa, looking for loopholes. But I just, you know, you think you know someone. Don't tell me you're backing out.

Is that what I'm doing here? Bec, do you, did you, let me ask you this before we get to the meat of today's main course. Did you ask to come on the show or were you, were you invited on Bec? I was coerced. Yeah. Okay. Well, now this makes more sense.

What is Bec doing here, Andy? Do you want to tell everybody, Beck? So what happened is I, after water aerobics, I looked down on my right hand, which is where my aura ring normally sits. I can see it right now. I can see it today tracking away. Probably noticing quite an elevated heart rate. I would think so. I would think so.

And I noticed that it wasn't on. Anyway, I told Bianca and who's Cam's wife, and she was like, shit, we've got to go looking for it. So we started looking and then that's when everyone sort of caught on that something was wrong. Yep. and everyone sort of caught on that something was wrong. Yep. I then said, after about five minutes of looking, I said, maybe we should, I should just quickly duck back to the room and make sure that it's not in my room. Okay. A lot of people were looking, so I said to Bea, look, just, I'll be back.

I quickly ran to our room and it was in our room on the charger. It was in the room. It was in the room. Okay. So anyway, I ran back out quickly and went up to Ben and I said, I found it. It was in my room. And she said, I've already alerted the pool guard and he's already set it over the loud speaker that there's a missing ring. So, and that was when the guy started bringing out all of the goggles. Gotcha.

So it was kind of too late. You were too deep by that stage. So Bea said to me, well, how about if I just take the ring and I'll go into the pool and just drop it near Fred. So Fred, was Fred set up? Did he, he didn't know it was? Innocent Kate? He was innocent.

And then so Bea jumped back in the pool and I was pretending to look around, still with everyone, acting worried. And then I looked over to Bea and I was like, have you dropped the ring? And she was like, no, I'm too scared to drop it now because I'm worried I'll actually lose it. You won't. There's 40 people there. Pretty safe place to drop a ring. Anyway, and then she eventually dropped it near Fred. And it worked.

Fred found it. Okay. And so Andy's made you come in now too. Because Andy, as the whole reason we're here is because at the end of that you were like, I suspect something's up. Yeah. So you made Bec come in, like, come out of her day of work just to come in here too so you can go, I knew it. I knew something was up. Also. You couldn't even just told us. I could have. You didn't come in and confess. And we were thinking that you were giving Bec a chance to say something that you'd done wrong for the first time ever on the show.

No. It's more to the principal's office. I just feel like my family don't know yet. Right. And whether. Well, Bianca and I did say that this was going to be a thing between us. There was a lot of throwing under the bus of Bianca as well.

Isn't that what I'm thinking? I'm thinking think Bex Camina has really passed the buck. It was her idea. It was her idea. Because what you're trying to do though, you know, in your defense, you're trying to, you know, soften the blow for the pool, you know, for everyone involved in the pool. Well, and that's the thing. And then all of, you know, we were talking about it that night over dinner. And it was a huge celebration.

As I said at the time, Fred got thrown in the air like the taco kid from All That Passe. I think this is absolutely no harm, no foul. In fact, I mean, it's given everyone a great talking point rather than you're the girl that cried ring. great talking point rather than you're the girl that cried ring. So the question is for you guys is, do we tell it the family now? Or do we let Fred, like, cause I, Beck could call dad now and, and I, and you know what? I've got Fred's best interests in mind here too, because he'll, the boost in like self-confidence you get from being the champion of finding

something, you don't want to take that away from a young boy, do you? No, I think that's fair. Okay. You do want to call your family that don't you? No, no, no, I'm happy for that to be the outcome. I just didn't want to be, you know, obviously I don't want to lie to our listeners. I want to be very clear that everything we say on this show is always 100% accurate. As best we can at the time.

So I thought it was important. You did smell a rat. Yeah, she was acting peculiar and now we know why. When did you find out, Ando? Yeah. What, last Friday? I was like, great, I've got three days to bring this back to everybody. How do you feel about it, Bec?

You feel that you're feeling? Very guilty. But you're feeling like a little bit of something's lifted? Not really, because I know your parents listen to the podcast, so... It hasn't lifted. Unfortunately, the lid is lifted. On what I would classify as a good scam, and I've been involved in a few of my drives, and this has all the hallmarks of a very good scam.

No one got hurt. It was victimless. Gave everyone a good story. It was an absolute victimless crime. But it just sounds to me like everyone had a fun time. It was like a treasure hunt. Yeah. It was a treasure hunt.

They were all warmed up from water aerobics anyways. You got a little bit of extra class. They're dipping, bobbing, dipping, bobbing, doing a little bit of, got a few extra reps in. And a young boy came out of it feeling like a hero. I mean, that is a, if I was writing a book of 100 best scams you can pull with your family to build confidence and have a good time, that'd be in the top 10. That'd be in the top 10 of my confidence building fun family scams. So I would say if Andy's parents do listen to this, then now they're obliged to probably

keep the secret from young Fred as well. Yeah, everyone has to keep it from Fred. I think that's got to be the most important thing here. We're now all in the circle of trust. Deal. Thank you. How's the aura going though, Ben? Glad you got it.

Great. We only missed probably about two hours of tracking that day. Okay, yep. You wear it for another couple of years, we'll smooth that right out. Barely noticed I missed. And it's the can of, it's not a can of worms, it's a can of feelings. It's a can of feelings we've opened on this show with extreme empaths. And, you know, we'll stop reading them out when they start rolling in. But the quality just remains so high.

And she started this for us. The original. There's a lot of like-minded people like her. We've got to open it for her in fact. Let's do it with all the music in the world. Not leaving any song out. Not leaving any song out. No song can feel sad.

Ando, this actually comes in from, I've got an audio recording of an MPath. Oh great. Fun fact, listener of the show and Aussie legend, guy called Lachlan Morton. Lachlan Morton, he's a mate of mine. You might not be aware of him. He's currently, people in cycling will know who he is. He rides for EF, Education First, the pro team, but he's currently trying to set the record for fastest lap of Australia. I've seen this guy.

Oh, unbelievable distances. Like the numbers are mind blowing. He's doing between four and 500 kilometres a day on the bike. And so that obviously just- The car gets tired doing that. And he's not feeling sad for his bike. His bike loves it. I guess it feels, I guess his attitude towards the bike is like a sheepdog.

Loves to run, loves to get out there. Started, if you can visualize this, sort of started to think it was around Newcastle-ish and he's going anti-clockwise. So he's been going up Queensland, across the top, into Western Australia now. But obviously, like, you spend a lot of time on those roads up there. You run into road trains and he sent me this audio recording. He's obviously listening to the pod, so shout out to Lockie on the road. He sent me this audio recording with being an extreme empath in mind. I've developed a strange empathy for the road trains when they're stopped at night

On the side of the road like sleeping. In my head it looks like they're sleeping and I try and Make as little noise as possible until my lights down so as not to wake them up Because I know how hard they were during the day I don't know how hard they're working during the day. Anyway, I'm not an overly empathetic person, but I feel for the big road trains when they're asleep. I do love, I know how hard they're working. They are though. He's out there on the road, he sees them, he sees them zoom back and forth. And cars do this to us, there's certain movies, like I now feel for cars more than I did just because I've watched the

the show and you look at what he has to go through and how good he is to lightning the queen brilliant luck good luck with that um haim this one I had to I want to kick this off with a girl called Jessica and she's got a great story about him being an empath but there's also a side story which is exciting yeah Yeah, great. Hi guys. The Mr Bean you discussed a while back is my dad. She said we're proud Mr Beans and yes, people giggle at our name all the time. Happy to help. So this is Jessica, Jessica Bean. She said, whenever I go to the ice cream shop, I order the flavor of ice cream that has been least selected.

Now I'm all for being empathetic, but you don't mess with an ice cream. That's the one you avoid because you're like, well, obviously it's unpopular. It's natural selection at work. I mean, sometimes they do replace a tub. You know, like, if you ever see a full chocolate, it hasn't been left behind. Yeah, no, that's a replace tub. You know, like, so if you ever see a full chocolate, it hasn't been left behind. That's a replace tub. Yeah. But if she's there in some kind of weird pistachio land or whatever it might be.

How's this? Ando, this is from Mia. I saw a kookaburra the other day and I was admiring it. So far so good. As I got closer, I realized it was actually a crow, but I felt so bad for being disappointed that I tried really hard to keep admiring her. That is fair. Because there's a distinct difference between- The crow. The crow would be going, hello, hello, what are we here finally? A little bit of attention?

You're like, uh-oh, I think she's confused me with a kookaburra. This is not what was advertised to me. You've confused me with a kookaburra, haven't you? Not at all. I think you're a gorgeous black shiny bird. Love it. This one's from Holly. When I copy and paste something on my computer, I always have to paste it

straight away as I worry it's tiring to hold on to whatever I've copied. Thanks Holly. That definitely counts. Yes. This is from Nina. Since owning a car, I've always felt bad for the spare tire for being left out because I don't even know how to change the tire so I can't rotate it in. Sometimes I will lift up the lid in the boot and just give it a little pat so it doesn't feel left alone.

Very much appreciate you. If only I knew how to substitute, you'd get a go on the field, but I don't, but we appreciate the work you put in. Love it. This one's interesting, Ham, from Alice. I didn't realize I'm an ultra empath, she writes, until I started raising awareness for it, so thank you. But it goes beyond objects with me.

For example, I feel sad when I hear the phrase, the straw that broke the camel's back. All I can think is, why did someone put so much straw on that poor camel? Just so we could have a saying. Just to unpack that for a while. I don't think- I don't think it ever happened.

No, A, that, but B, I don't think it's heaps and heaps of straw. Isn't it just like- That's true. I actually always visualized a comical amount of straw. I always visualized a whole lot of bags and the tubs of water and different, yeah, the guy on this, and then they've gone, hey, can I put this last bit of straw? Yeah, do you reckon there's room for the straw?

That does make way more sense actually, than for it to be exclusively straw. Having said that, for anyone that's ever thrown around hay bales, they have some weight to them. And I think if you, if you've got a few hundred on a camel's back, I mean, that'd be a different saying about how impressive it is to balance hay on a camel's back. There'd be a new saying for that. And, uh, you know that, and Jaco, you know that most weeks, not every week, but most weeks I like to blow something wide open. Oh my word. Do you still even have the opener?

I had to dig it out. It's on cassette. Did he give you the heads up? Yeah, right. Get the mini disc out, Dax. It's been years since we played this. So you, for people that are new to the pod, welcome by all means welcome. Oh, they'll know about blow something wide open.

It hasn't been that long guys. I mean, I have been investigating and you can't talk about ongoing investigations. Was it in this podcast? Was it in this? Oh, yes. I want to say pre-COVID times. Well, maybe look, you know, we have other things. I should point out though, just for people that can, who may be new to the pod.

What is this? Is this a new to the podcast. What is this? Isn't this a new podcast they're doing? Or is this a new show? You pride yourself on blowing things wide open. Yeah, investigate stuff. Investigate stuff. People would assume something's the norm. And you see a little glitch and you don't walk past.

You dig. You dig. I dig. And I always have the truth shovel on me, ready to dig at any time. And I think I would probably, I know the frequency has dropped off a bit in recent weeks of blowing something right, wide open, but I- Sorry Mike, can you, do you have any idea when we last blew something wide open? Is that a- Nah, there's no way we can search it.

I don't think we have time. I don't think we have time. Um- We don't tell archiving system. It's on MS DOS. C slash run search slash run. So here's the thing though. Yes, maybe I have had other things going on and I probably have slowed down the invest, I've got a lot of cases piling up and I'm trying to work through them.

But at the same time, true crime podcasts and things like that. People are, people are combing through stuff in this day and age. There's very little left undiscovered. Oh, well. Can we assume then that because it's been so long between cases, this is going to be a more detailed, with more evidence and an amazing one? Oh, this is, this is explosive for sure. And it all, it falls loose loosely in the category or near the category of the Health Star ratings, but it's not Health Star size. Let's not forget, that was the OG on this show, Blow Something Wide Open. I think we all shone a light on how suspicious the Health Star ratings were. Now this deals with the food that comes in two, well it comes in a variety of different formats, but we're going to

focus on two today. No issue with the Health Star rating, apart from just the general confusion we all feel over the Health Star rating. It's four stars on one, four stars on the other. The thing that we're investigating today, and it's been brought to my attention by a guy called Tom, so good work from Tom as well as an assistant investigator, but I was already onto this. I was already onto this. I was already looking

into this and when Tommy and Mum were like, that's right, that's true. I was, I never quite got to the end of it. It's like the family quiz after dad answers correctly and I go, yes. We were circling around that answer. Well, I mean, to give you a bit of Tom's story, he is a uni student in his words, he's a broke uni student and loves a dollar can of tuna, right? From Coles. Mostly for its protein intake, because, you know, he's also going to the gym.

It's expensive to eat protein, Jack. I know you, I don't know where you are in your journey at the moment, but I know with your train of Frank, you know, you're trying to hit a certain level of protein. Yeah. And it is hard to get in. It's hard to get in. And look, and I'm, you know, if you're trying to build muscle, you do need to eat protein. That's what Tom's doing here. And he's like, okay, bang for buck.

Tuna is a decent food to look at. The thing we're looking at here is John West. Now, you would think that John West... Hey, just quickly, just quickly. Sorry, sorry. Wasn't the opener meant to be ages ago? Do that actually, because I've got a few tabs on my computer I need to pull off. Okay. Stand back!

She's set to blow! Look out! Fire in the hole! Haynish is blowing this wide open! Amazing! Amazing! Thanks, guys. This focuses on John. John will have realized I'm just thanking myself in different voices. John West Tuna Tempters olive oil, 95 gram can. Okay. Now obviously he is on the hunt for, Tom's on the hunt for protein. Okay. Got to fuel those muscles up

after you've burnt them in the gym. There's John West tuna chunk style. That's not what we're talking about today, but the interesting, I don't know how a chunk is different from a junk style, junk style olive oil blend. Then you've got John West protein plus. Okay. So you're like, Oh, protein plus, man. If you're a young man who's looking to get those fierce gains, you go, okay, I'm interested in protein plus. This is what I'm here for.

The taste is secondary. So you look at the protein plus, right? You would be thinking, Jack, as someone interested in upping their protein content, you'd go, that's the one for me. Yes, definitely. You look on the back and it's got that, it's got per hundred grams, like what it has, fats, carbohydrates, protein. On the protein plus per hundred grams, okay, it's 22 grams of protein per hundred grams. Okay. It's 22 grams of protein per hundred grams.

Okay. On the regular tuna, it's 25. Protein minus. Wow. It is a bit of what is John Wirst doing. What is he doing? What is he doing? Why write protein plus on one?

But if it was, hang on a second, just to defend John. Could it be protein plus other things? I'm going to have to reduce the protein to fit the other things in. It's actually interesting you mention that. Protein is in huge gold writing, protein plus. Okay. Clearly, it's the star of the show. Yes.

So you've got protein plus in big gold writing. Then on anything small writing, you have plus calcium. Hmm. Protein plus, plus calcium. Yes. It's still arguing you would say that, and they advertise on the front, 18 grams of protein, because it's a bit less than this, 90 grams or whatever. So it's like that's, you know, so they're trying to tell you this has got all the protein

in it, yet the other one has more per capita, right? Like as a percentage. But you're right. It's like, here's the board of things. It's an extra protein. Yeah, but we'd have them over a barrel. But because they've said protein plus, which we are assuming is more protein, they could in fact in court go, no, no, no, we're talking about the calcium.

Yeah, well, true. There's another brand here. I'm just on the Coles website here. There's another brand, protein plus lemon pepper. Right. It's like protein plus. How much protein in that one? Oh, mate, don't...

I mean, it's a bit of a dig to find. You can only assume that the normal one is still writing. Here's the broader scope that's going on at the moment. And this is something I'm having to blow wide open. The world has gone mad for protein lately. I mean, you go to the supermarket, it's just protein is just the word you put on anything to sell it, whether it's like yogurt, bars, nutbars. Nutbars are the biggest offenders of going, hey, eat this, it's got protein in it.

Because there's sort of, but it blows my mind that the things that actually have protein in them, like eggs and meat, probably your biggest source of protein, they don't mention it. They just go, where eggs? Yes. Like no egg packet is going, Oh mate, where do you see the bloody protein in this? But an egg is probably one of the highest, like the easiest ways to eat protein. And same with like, no, you go to buy like,

you know, three bloody rump steaks. So the eggs and steaks, no, they're good. It's like, they don't need to show up. It's like the best players of the game generally don't have huge celebrations. Honestly, yeah. It's yeah, they just go back to their mark. Yeah. But it's like normal tuna even knew that it didn't have to promote itself as protein until it got its friend down the hall. Protein was. It knew it was just doing its job. It's like, I think anytime you see the word protein, you'd be like, okay, that kind of tells you it's not, you know, like the nut bar, the nut bar one is just the classic. I saw one the other day, it was like, you know, protein nut bar.

It had four, like, you know, four grams of protein, which is a fifth of a can of chicken, you know, like it's like trace them out. It's like when Cadbury went with like, Oh, we've got a glass and a half, got a glass and a half of full cream milk in everything. But you go, yeah, but they sell milk here as well. Like I assume, like we could go around the corner and get 50 glasses in one jug. That's 50 glasses of full cream milk in it. But that's because at the heart of it, I think it's them going, yeah, like

obviously it's got a glass and a half, but it's sugar too. Tastes, but it tastes better. It tastes better than milk. That's the, that's kind of what we're trying to tell you. Just quickly, the last time you blew something wide open. Seconds ago? Yes. Before that.

Oh, here we go. Digging through the rule book. Episode 37 of The Plum. Episode 37 of The Plum. What year was that? 2018. It's not every week. It's not every week.

It's not every week. Another one next week. Great. Oh, no. week. Another one next week. Great. I'm really gathering momentum is our conference conference, con con convention that is going to be happening in the Gold Coast. And and look there's been some more developments. There's a cool new conference no matter your beers.

Con Con. The conference so nice you can deduct it once at a maximum. Can't stress it enough. Very good. This is interesting Ham because we've had numerous bands reach out and want to perform at ConCon. Yeah. Which is a worry because if you do revert back to the letter from the ATO... They did seem to think that education and entertainment were opposed to each other.

And the more entertainment you had, the less you could say it was for business reasons, the more business info you have, the less it's going to be for entertainment. We floated the idea that like, does all learning have to be unentertaining? That's a, that's a call for them to make. But I think the rule would have to be, we can include things that are entertaining and that add to the business presentations we'll be doing if they carry a business message, you know, if they are part of the professional development theme of conference conference.

So the bands have to play educational songs? I don't know, Jack, I'm just a bit bawling, but yeah, it might be like it might be that. That's an interesting call. So Conrad Sewell was one of them and it just made it felt like I've been con con con like, like it just, you know, the name just seemed right. But yeah. So do you think you're suggesting that we go back to Conrad Sewell? I'm reading his, I've got the email here from mushroom that yeah, that

that offers him as con con con. So he's, he's on tour, right? So he's promoting a new song, Different Kind of Love. I was looking at that name going, is there anything we can twist that song to, to make it a different kind of business or something? Or, you know, like he... Different kind of leadership. Leadership. We can go back to leadership because it really is, if you say it's a catchall,

no one doesn't want to have leadership skills after a conference. I will do. Do we pull up that song and have a look at the lyrics and see if we'd be willing to slightly tweak it, see if we can't tweak, reduce the, I mean, you don't also have to ask him as an entertaining artist and he is one of Australia's best. You'd have to go, are you comfortable dialing down the entertainment value? Yes. Just for tax reasons, because the tax office seems to have a problem with enjoyment.

Should he perform behind a lectern? Would you read out your song? No, but then it's not really... No, but it's not a performance. That's not a performance. That's hard, isn't it? Because... Would you be prepared to have no stage presence?

I suppose that we're saying and you can ask Jack about that. Then if the tags office goes, hang on a sec, says he went to a conference. Yep. I went and I learned about, you know, my industry, developed myself professionally. I met other people that gave me ideas and it was very much business like, says he had Conrad Sewell played. Yes, but he seemed sad and during the song, people were yelling out management ideas. What, from the crowd? From the crowd.

Again, Jack, we're just police guying this. Sorry. Maybe from the crowd, maybe from the crowd. Maybe from the crowd. We get some people up and when he plays, people can yell out some good stuff for business. Like, you know, invest in your talent or like, you know, double R&D. Here's the first verse. I've just brought it up.

Right. It says, how do we end up here? That easily rhymes with it's the end of financial year. It does. In my mind, I was thinking, do we show a graph with profit sliders? Okay, that's good. Okay, so maybe. So it kind of turns into a PowerPoint about something. What's the rest? With our eyes filled with tears.

Yeah, great. Results are in the toilet. Yeah. Shareholders are furious. Or we just show different tears, spell it differently. Our eyes filled with different management tears. Yep. Shareholders are furious. Or we just show different T's, spell it differently. T- Our eyes filled with different management T's. T-I-E-R-S. So he can, he doesn't even have to remember a new lyric there.

Yep. Um, can't we love like we used to do? Can't we lead like we used to do? Yep. Only you know that, oh, swear word here alert, but only you know the shit we've been through. Again, that's very business relevant. And I think if you change shit to sheets, Yep.

Yeah, or sales. Only you know the sheets we've been through. Spreadsheets. Spreadsheets, yeah. Again, and I'm, okay, we can easily put together a PowerPoint for this. So red sheets come up. Yep.

Again, showing, like, you know, the sheets we've been through, just showing all the sales figures in the red. Can't we lead like we used to? Yeah. We survived hand in hand and we'll dance again. Yep. Okay. Um, that Rob might require an offline rework, but that's gonna, yeah, that's probably going to be something about being profit again, being the black again. Yes. Yes. You're the missing link in my chain. Supply chain.

Yeah. Or I'd say the missing LinkedIn. In my supply chain. So if we have LinkedIn as just one branded word, he won't have changed the lyric. Do you think it's the ATO goes through the entertainment? Say they bring up, you know, if you get audited and they go, well, hang on, we've got some video from the event. This looks entertaining. No, go through the lyrics. In each line, there is a business reference. I think that's a good question. Jack, what's your... No, I mean, it's going to be very hard for them to turn around and say this isn't

legitimate after... If you have the PowerPoints up on the screen, you got Conrad singing about business. What about... Hang on. What about... If he has to pause at specific moments and then we teach someone really quickly about that. I reckon let's take this away. It's not, it's very possible, it's very possible. Can I float one other business, sorry, one other business based music idea? This is not, I mean, not from like the level obviously of Conrad's, not someone's management getting in

touch with us is actually the person themselves, his name's Joel. He's in Queensland, which is great. So pretty convenient for them. Queensland based functions wedding band called, get ready for this, Kingston Crumb, in honor of the Arnett's Biscuit for Kingston. So like they've been named after the Biscuits. So would you guys be interested in Kingston Crumb being your mood setting band during the Biscuit Hour? Yes. Oh, okay. What kind of music do they play? Like, I mean, it sounds like, it sounds like they're doing weddings and events, then, you know, it's probably classics. It's probably... Yep. So so cover band would

we have a biscuit band be great I think I mean I mean I really need to see Arnott's come on board as a sponsor now like we were really you know they're getting quite a lot out of this we're having it we've got a biscuit themed band mm-hmm coming to play how's on it's going Oh, come on, Andy. What have you been doing? Well, tell them to hold the date. Okay, great. As in Kingston. And I'll look at paying for these guys out of my own pocket.

Hey, Malir, listener Asher has reached out to us for a service we do provide. It hasn't been utilized for a while, but it's just to check unbiasedly whether a friend of his, Luke, has lost touch with the common man. Yep. The charges that Asher has laid, and it sounds like Asher's saying to his mate the whole time, listen, you've lost touch, you've lost touch, you've lost touch. And Luke is saying, I haven't, I haven't. The two big ones Asher is bringing to bear here is look, he just bought a new home and large and apparently has a pool. And at the

same time in quick succession, straight after that, he goes and buys a Nissan Y62 V8 Patrol. V8. It's a big V8 four wheel drive, which is around about a hundred grand. I think he might have looked now back into Luke's defense, I think he bought it second hand, because Asher suggested that the way we get in is ringing him pretending to be from the dealership that he bought the second hand car from the Midland City used car depot or department and that's our in. That's what we're going to try and do today. I am going to try and call Luke here.

Being someone from the car dealership. And Jack and I will sit by listening intently to all the information and at the end, we'll make a call as to whether he has lost touch or he is in fact in touch. Okay, let's give this a go. Hello, Luke speaking. Is that Luke Budgeo? Yeah, it is. Good day, mate. Ken Buckey here from Midland City Use Cars. How are you? Good thanks, how are you? Very good mate, how's the patrol? Yeah it's good.

Yeah terrific, hey mate, I hope we haven't caught you at a bad time, but just a bit of a follow up call about the patrol and if you don't mind, we've just had a couple of questions for you, if you're happy to participate in the survey, you can win three years extra free servicing for the car. It'll take two minutes. Okay, yeah. Mate, really quickly, just wondering, first of all, what kind of activities will you use the car for, do you think?

We use it for just driving around normal, like just every day, and we take it camping before driving around normal like just every day and we take it camping before driving. Yep and when you take it camping do you have a rooftop tent or do you camp? We've got a caravan. Got a caravan, beautiful. Yeah. What model caravan? We had a caravan, we sold it, we're just buying another caravan at the moment. Buying a brand new one? We had a camper trailer, nah, no. We're just buying another caravan at the moment. Buying a brand new one? We had a camper trailer. Nah, not a brand new one. Looking at an expander. Very nice. On the personal front, do you park it at your own house?

Yep. Yep. And do you own or rent your place? Own. Own. And how many bedrooms? Five. Right. And pool or no pool? Pool. Pool. Great.

As well as camping for holidays, do you ever do you predominantly drive on your holidays or do you sometimes fly as well? Drive. Just drive. Can you remind me what kind of seats did it have? In the patrol. Yep. Leather? Right.

Would you ever use the Patrol to tow a boat? Probably not. Do you know anyone with a boat? No. Do you ever go out on a boat? No. Okay. I have a couple more questions here. Do you ever eat or drink in the car? Yes. Yep. What would you eat or drink? I don't know, probably fast food. Yep. Just the last question here, based on these answers, we've got our own algorithm, but would you say you're in touch with the common man or lost touch with the common man?

I mean, it's, it's a line ball. It's a line ball. It's a line ball. Your mate Asher was just adamant that we do this. Luke, what would you say? In touch. No, I don't know, mate. I don't know.

I think the five bedroom house fully owned is a problem for you. The fact that you're about to buy a new caravan. I do think the second hand expander would say this. It's such a line Paul, isn't it? And you said fast food. I don't know what I was expecting for the food. Like if you're like, I didn't think you were going to say caviar and lobster. But you've got a pool.

How big's the pool? Yeah, this could be the designer. It's probably three metres long. Oh yeah, you've been touched. It's like Jack, it's like Jack, it's an entry level pool. And does it have a, like a spa, like a gas heated spa next to it? No. No, he's fine actually.

He's fine actually. Yeah, you're well in touch with the C's fine. I think that's it. You're well in touch with the government. I think, yeah. Well done. Particularly the non-flying for the holidays. And you bought, I mean, it is a V8 Patrol. I think Asher was like, look, you know, in a quick succession, you've got to have bought a house and a V8 four wheel drive, but I think you've still managed to skirt, you know, you've

stayed grounded. I think you've stayed grounded, Luke. Congratulations, Luke. Yeah, I think so as well managed to skirt, you know, you've stayed grounded. I think you've stayed grounded, Luke. Congratulations, Luke. Yeah, I think so as well. Yeah, okay. Don't carry on, we might change your decision. Well, we did. Yeah, we'll let you know if you win the three years of free servicing.

Awesome. Thanks, mate. See you, buddy. Thanks, listening. The Hamish and Andy podcast will return next week. Catch up or contribute at HamishandAndy.com.