Hamish & Andy - 2025 Ep 315 - Bonjour, You Copied Us!

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Segment Sleuth puts a French podcast under the microscope after it went viral internationally for outright copying one of our segments! After being blown away by China’s next-level efficiency on his annual golf trip, Andy grills their fast-and-loose mate Horgs about the dumb stuff he got up to on the trip. Hamish needs you to know that he's STILL playing the parking game, and the boys’ favourite human actor Jeremy Irvine leaves the show a shocking voicemail. Meanwhile, Hamish gets us thinking about who we’d consider a truly beloved celebrity. 1. Super Cool Podcast 2. Horgs in China 3. The parking game 4. Beloved celebrities 5. Jeremy Irvine voice memo 

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That was a great game. That's why I went with Zoe first rather than Rumi or Mirror because I thought maybe Haym might get thrown. We're doing the current partners of the Haymish and Eddie team. Probably shouldn't say current. Current is subjective. You can say current, but it will never change. Never change.

For Fast forward episode 10,000, still doing current partners, same names. Same names. Oh, I also. Obviously does present one-time loophole. Should we wish to keep? Should you wish to date another Beck or Jack find another Bianca? I just, you know, I do think in loopholes.

But I'm not planning that. I'm planning to stay with this exact Zoe. Rebecca Gibney for life. I've got that option. It doesn't have to be famous. Yep, there's lots of becks out there. There's other becks out there, but they're the ones to come to mind. You don't checkmated into Rebecca Gibney,

nor am I checkmated into the animated K-pop demon huntress. Yes. For you to date her. But in the future, Yeah. Maybe that is a viable option if you're talking about this happening in several hundred years. No, you're right. You're right. There'll be people that date anime, is for sure. Ahoy also to Nick, who used the very easy-to-use system at hamishaney.com to tell us what he's been up to in the U.S. Hi, guys. Nick here, Canadian living in the U.S. I thought I'd send you this message as a tribute to my friend Matt, who introduced me to your pod.

Matt's big into disc golf. He's leaving the charge to rename what is normally called golf into ball golf to put it on an even playing field with this golf. That said, he doesn't have a huge following, but I thought you might be better positioned to change the language. It would be the modern Shakespeare's, if you will. Also, Australia already took hockey and made it ice hockey to make room for field hockey, so I think there's precedent. So shout out to my friend Matt, and please consider ball golf going forward. Thanks. This golf, I'm also known as Frisbee golf down here. He's a push. Popular variant of ball golf, where instead of using the sticks that are so known and loved in ball golf, you use your skin sticks, your arms, to fling, to fling the disc.

Yeah. It's like an airborne version of the ball from ball golf. Lovely. Look, we love all listeners. Reach out does for anything. I'm happy to instigate and initiate calling golf ball golf. Me too. I think it's one of those things that I reckon you can't fight it.

And now that it feels a bit silly, I think we'll start doing it ironically. and then it will become ball golf to all of us. Again, it does help when I'm out there going, I have played golf on the weekend. It saves us one line of conversation, which was which one, Frisbee or Ball Golf. Ball golf. Because we're always asking.

We're always asking. So, yeah, 100% endorsed is what we're going to say. And it makes Taylor made our preferred ball golf brand. But it leaves us wide open to another. Completely unaligned from other versions of golf. So a huge, an opening there, should companies wish to reach out. Guys, speak. Love it.

It was just like, yes, John here from Taylor Made ball golf. We've had some confusion in the past. Tiger Woods. He's been playing ball golf for some time. He's our ball golf representative. We don't have a disc golf representative. Speaking of crazy coincidences, here's another crazy coincidence, Ando. On this show, you sometimes do song sleuth, where you'll examine a popular song and, you know,

that might have links to previous songs. Yes. A bit rarer, you'll do segment sleuth. Yes. Where we get alerted, often by our international listeners, hey, are you aware that there's a, you know, maybe a little bit of a crossover with other podcasts or radio shows from around the world. Can I borrow the segment sleuth opener today because I've got a segment sleuth. Really. Someone's stolen one of our segments.

Let's not say it yet, but there are similarities. Absolutely. This sounds like this sounds like this sounds like this. If this sounds like that, I'm your man. Andy Lee, segment sleuth. What? That's presented by Hamish White. Yes, what country?

France. France. My France say. I, well, I'm going to play a little bit from our show. From earlier in the year, people may recognize. is we sometimes get requests, hey, what's happening with this? But if you didn't, if you don't remember, we had an idea earlier in the year

to mimic the famous movie, which I think was from the 90s, Sneakers, starring Robert Redford. Berg Boys. Talking about Berg Boys. Here's what we talked about earlier in the year. Gentlemen, I have an idea for us. Inspired by a film,

I mean, so heavily inspired by a film, you might almost say it, it almost is the film. The movie Sneakers came on. Robert Redford runs a gang of kind of like hackers who companies hire, like a bank would go to them and go try and break into our bank. What a great job. What I would like to propose is if you run a small business,

we will break in. Us three, we will rob you. Yeah. And people might think that that's Peter out, but we said we're not going to talk about until we do it. Yeah. We actually even had an – we made an opener for the Berg Boys when we were talking about Berg Boys. Let me just play our opener first. Yep.

Be on a look at the three people testing small business security. Berg boys, Burke boys, what you're going to do? What you're going to do when we steal from you? Mm-hmm. So a lot of people, a lot of European podcast. said, hey, there's a French podcast that's doing something similar. Have a listen. This is their opener first.

Let me play their opener first, and then I want to play some of their audio. Goethe's attentive for persons who test in the same thing in French. The guys of burg, the barque, what are you fair? What are you fair? That's very similar. It just sounds like they've done the same thing in French. Have a listen. This is from the Enrique at Andre Show.

I believe it is. Have a listen to them talking about a very similar idea to our Berg boys on their podcast. Bonjour, it is a

Henrique and Andre super cool podcast with Jacks. Boys, I have a crazy idea. You know the movie Snickers with a Robert Redford?

Oh, yeah, was they test a business security by stealing things from the business? It is a super cool

movie. Super cool, man, super cool. Yeah, super cool. Well, be really super cool, we should do this. We should be burglary boys. Oh, we, we, we, we, that's super cool. They need something from a business. Right, so on the super cool podcast, they're talking about being burglary boys. And they're all French

are they? Yeah. They're all French, all born in different parts of France, and they have traveled around a little bit. And I think one had a tongue transplant. So he finds it hard to. just make some of the French battles. However, there are quite a famous podcast in France, a super cool podcast. So have I listened to again, then there are definite similarities there. Well, that was absolutely similar to those two hours. Listen to again what we were talking about earlier in the year.

Tell us your business. Tell us your business, you can't tell the staff, and then we get the fun of seeing how well we could pull off the heist. Love it. Just hit us up Paymissionary.com. We'll pick one. And then this will probably go quiet for a bit. Because we can't give updates because you don't want, staff members could listen

and we don't want to, you know, that will compromise the mission. Now listen to the gentleman from the Super Cool podcast talking about it. Now, we wouldn't say which business until after it's done, right? Correct. From now, we zip the mouth. Oh, we will be such sneaky boys. You will never hear us talk about this again. So if you are the boss of a business and you would like to have us,

steal from you. Email us. We, we are going to be the burglary boys. This is super cool crazy. Super cool. They get their brand in it a lot for the super cool podcast. Super cool. Yeah, it's the thing is their catchphrase.

They love saying it. Right. So that was their thing. That was them. Admittedly, this was them a couple of weeks ago. Then people are sending us audio from this week's episode of this French podcast after they had pulled up. Like, we haven't done our Berg boys yet.

Who knows when it might happen? They did their. So credit to them, they followed through a little bit quicker than us. But they did their Berg boys. This is them post the job. Now, we have some crazy news for today's show. Remember when we were talking about stealing something from a business? We did it.

We were the burglary boys. We did it. It is a crazy story for sure. But the boss of this business, which is actually a museum called the Louvre, he emailed us and said, man, I love the show, boys. Do you think you could steal something from our business, like $100 million worth of jewels? We thought this is so crazy, but okay, what a super cool idea.

So we did some research, and we found out that the Louvre is in Harry. We, we. I had this idea to get a sherry picker and use power tools to get us into. the first floor window. Man, that is such a super cool idea. Crazy segment guys, super fun. Super cool.

Oh, they were the guys that... That I can't believe. That was a Louvre robbery. That was their segment. That was a podcast. That was a podcast segment. So on one hand, I'm like, you absolute mongrels, you didn't just

steal a segment. You know, you've stolen some jewels. But on the, but by the same time, it was like, well, we respect. We deeply respect the fact that they followed through. And if anything, I say, maybe they've inspired us to, you know, rethink or just put a flame under it and see if, you know, who knows it might happen sooner rather than later. Now that I guess we've seen it can work as a segment, like that was no, that got a lot of international attention.

That went viral for them. But it went viral and that is just great publicity for a podcast. It's really hard to cut through the noise. So good on them. Good on them. Good on them. No charge is laid because good on them for swinging big. Fellows, I've just returned from a golf trip, my yearly golf trip with my mates.

This time we went to China, which was good fun. Oh, it was. And you have come back as a deep fan of Chinese efficiency, which we should have seen coming. But just to bring listeners in, you know, every year you might be in a golf trip in a different place. I think you guys have done New Zealand. and Singapore, and, you know. And I was like, oh, China, of course, you know, it's huge, there's a lot of stuff in China.

And then Andy came back going, God, they've really got it sorted out over there. Really got it sorted out. Every, I've had three or four separate occasions where Andy has just been short of handing me, I guess, like citizenship papers and going, you know, really good you to think about moving to China for the efficiency.

You just love the way it's... They've done it. What do they do? What's the thing they're doing that we're not doing here? Oh, look, everything's very efficient, Jack. It's very respectful. It's a one billion people marching to the beat of, like, the pleasure Andy from. Like, nothing, there would be no upset Andy's in the whole of China.

Yep. They just had their systems. You should have seen the way they transported the clubs around. They put these little cards on your clubs that was scanned, and then they knew which course you're going to next. You rock up there. It was just, they had a few systems in place that I was, that impressed me, right? So it's not like in Australia where most, you know,

if you go to a public club, it's just a bloke going, yeah, mate, you just go off now if you want. No, no, not that. A very different ship. But people may have heard me talk about alcohol. So very different, what? Very different ship. Okay, sorry.

What do you think I said? You're like a different shit than that now. Andy's come back from China, a fan of efficiency, and with a bit of an attitude. You would have heard me talk about these golf trips before. And particularly my mate Horgs, he's been on the show as well. He's like a preparation at times. At one time he rocked up to the airport with all these clubs in a box

because he had forgotten to buy a bag. One time you might remember me talking about how he called his wife and said, you've got to follow me to the airport. I took this route because I left the boot open and my golf shoes have fallen out of the car, find them at some point along the way. I didn't know. I forgot about that one. He's left, you know, wallets and planes.

passports, it's just generally, you're chasing it. I'm interested to see how a fast and loose man went. Did the efficiency of the Chinese system help bring his fast and loose? Did it protect a fast and loose person or did they not mesh? We can ask the man himself, he joins us right now. Hogs, hello to you. Hello, boys. Hogs, how are you, ma'am? Did you find it fast and efficient, hog? Yes, it was, they were efficient. They were right. Yeah. Did you walk around because I would have, I'm a bit like you ogs, you know, we're fast and loose guys. Were you going, gee, I could not. This isn't the way I run things.

Or did you enjoy having the efficiency, yeah, like streamlining your chaos? Well, I can't, I've got Andy, really. So do I. So do I. We're the same. It's exactly why we've been attracted to Andy. Like, when you're around Andy, you just, yeah. It's basically like being in China.

He doesn't just have the surname. He lives. The Chinese lifestyle. One other thing we've fed out, Jacko, is they don't yell four if you have an error shot. What do they yell? They yell. They yell, can't chow! And so...

It's so much more exciting. It's more exciting. And there's four caddies, one each. And they all yell it in unison. So if hogs and I were in different groups on the day, because you play in groups of four and there was eight of us, you would, you know, I might hear hogs tee off and you hear the whack of the ball. And then when you heard four people go, Kangcha! You're like, oh.

he hasn't hit that very well. Unfortunately for me, Hawks did play very well and probably heard more Kung Chow's coming from my T-box more than his. But Hawks, just wanted to put some few things to you. I think I've done this in the past.

All you have to say is guilty or not guilty with regards to... Is this a post-boys-trip performance review? Yeah. Again, a very efficient thing to do. Andy, as the team's manager, is just sitting down with everyone. If you don't review everybody,

One's work, have... How will they get better? Yeah. How will they... How can they improve their performance on future trips? I'm really worried that one thing is going to come up here. Okay. Anyway, do you want to self-declare now for half the punishment?

No, no, no, it doesn't work that way. You might have to cut it out. Okay, maybe. I do want you to self-declare. Okay, first one, did you wear the same golf shirt four rounds in a row? Yes. Yes. There's nothing...

There's not too much wrong with that. I mean, I'm in China. It may be in Tasmania, you'd be okay, but China's not it. It's humid. Oh, yeah. Did you only bring one golf shirt knowing we were going on a golf trip? Yes. Why hogs?

Well, normally Andy gets them, provides them. And there was feedback going around. Apparently, Andy said on the WhatsApp that, hey, guys, we haven't got any shirts this year. And I didn't read that one. Gotcha. Mate, God, shades of caravan of courage back in the day where I just turned up, this is our first caravan trip we did in radio days across Australia.

And I got tons of crap bored on me because... You didn't really sleeping bag or a pillow. You just kept saying I thought they'd be provided. That's what you kept saying? It was like a hotel. Well, I mean, we didn't... You know, someone else looked at us the caravan. I'd stand out of it.

He's like, what are you going to sleep in? It was like, surely there's bedding in the... caravan. He's like, no, man. It's a sleeping bag and a pillow. So, yeah, I slept in a gorilla suit until I could find a blanket. There were a lot of pro shops there, but Hawks couldn't find a shirt big enough. That is one problem that we had is that Hawks being six foot five, they just couldn't cater for the bigger man in that country. I tried on a triple XL wasn't big enough. I couldn't believe.

Back to a yes, no, hogs. Yeah. Did you wear the same undies four days in a row? Oh, God. Yeah, well, yes. So you'd bring London. You can't have thought that the undies were going to be provided. No, I did pack them as just on night one when we were,

because we were staying in another hotel. Yep. When I was doing the repacking, I didn't, I forgot to pack the undies. But why would you take all of them out? Did you put them in a drawer? No, I didn't. I think they fell out when I was pulling my jeans out to go out. Then the undies came out, and then they never went back in.

So they're still on a holiday. Yeah. And you just then had to wear the same undies four days in a row. There were other options. It cannot be comfortable, surely. Was there an undies shop there or same issue? No, we finally. That was the last night.

Yeah, we went to the morning. on the last night. So the plane on the way home was fine. Yeah, it would have been, God, humidity, walking, golf. That's a disaster scenario for chafing. It wasn't great. Yeah. But it's, yeah, I thought it would be worse.

Whatever you're imagining, divided by three. All right. One third the crotch rot that I imagined. That's it, Hawksies. Was there one thing that I was, meant to declare that we're meant to cut out? Just say it in a code that Andy would understand that we wouldn't, but it's still exciting for us to imagine.

Oh, when... I was getting a bit nervous, actually, so... No, no, is it? If it's the joke you're trying to play on the driver? Yeah, no, no, we're not talking about that one. So interesting. Oh, wow. That's the review I want to hear.

See, boys. I've got a bit of an update from the parking world. As you know, Andrew, I play the game. Yeah. I play the game. I don't pay for parking. I play it fiercely. And I've actually been getting a bit of a rep for myself.

What do you mean? For playing the game. Two incidents have happened in the past week. One, I stopped for a, stopped and gave a battle a man in the street. And he said, hey, my, just want to let you know, we've started playing the game as well. And I said, oh, that's good to hear. I said, do you mean the parking game? Because, yep, of course.

There is no other game. It's just known as the game. Yep. And he said, my son and I, you know, son's young, I think it was like eight or nine years old, listening to the pod, hearing us talk about the cost, risk, reward ratio of paying, never paying for parking, but risking a fine versus always paying for parking, but maybe never having been seen by an inspector, and you've wasted all that money, paying for parking.

You and I've played the game for a long time, and to the point where we had a little signal, do you remember that between the two of us? Oh, yeah, yeah. I said when you come back to your car and you've left it there for not only hours past the recommended length, but you never paid in the first place. It's the feeling of arrogance you must get if you can jump up and down on a tightrope on one foot.

So, Hame and I, from the age of 19, we'd walk for our separate cars, maybe 80 metres away, and we'd both bounce on our one foot. Jump up and down on one leg, which, It would be amazing if passes by went, oh, they must mean it's the kind of confidence you feel of being able to have that level of balance above a death-defying drop.

But that's how it felt to us at the time because back then a parking fine was more than one week's salary. Yes. So you were risking, you were risking it all back then, and it felt damn good. Save us two pots to be air or something and we're like, okay, it just felt damn good. But one week's salary, come on,

you didn't work in the 1920s or something. even on a low pay. Well, it's about a hundred bucks. Like, one week's like spending money back when you were 19. Like once you took out expenses for the week. Yeah, yeah, but you said salary. Like, I mean, if it sounded like you worked all week for $90. I remember it well, Jack.

When I was at university, parking fines were two sacks of flour and 30% of that year's harvest. And that was a lot. That was a lot for us as serfs and peons. Well, it was a big dint. I'm just going to say these days can absorb a little easier. It must be nice.

Well, it's okay. We'll get to your house in time. But here's the thing. So speaking to this guy, he's like, my son, his son did a spreadsheet. That was the most amazing part. This nine-year-old did a spreadsheet of like, how often would we have to park? And, you know, when does it start going in our favor? Right.

And they'd come to the same conclusion. The son was like, dad, let's play the game. I've done the numbers. I can't see it. So I said it was like, he goes, we're only a week and we haven't copped a fine. And I said, great, you've got to remember, though,

it's the long run. Like, it is the long run. You can't let a ticket spook you. And I, and he said, yeah, we heard about your two tickets in one day. And I said, yeah, that's a weird sub pocket of the game because I do think I've parked,

that's the parking near the physio. And I just think whoever runs that strip knows my car now. And it's become a bit personal. So that would park that because I think that's a feud. Can I say something for me with the game? I won't park like in a loading zone if it's for some... Like if it's going to be inconvenient...

No, no, this is just flaunting. You just don't pay at the mission? Yeah, yeah. I just don't confuse it with people that are just doing the arrogant parking and cross-driveways and stuff. You're not breaking laws and you're also not... I won't even bend rules like, oh, it's rideshare. cars, people do need those

spots. So this is just flat out one hour, pay at the metre. Manoa, mono. That's what you think. So neither of you would even be familiar with parking apps. You wouldn't have the parking apps on your phone. No, don't have the paste. I've seen as I use it, but I'm not interested.

Here's the caveat though I do have to throw down. Because the other day I was, I was driving on a street and I pulled in for a bit of street parking and I passed the ranger, past the parking guy on the street. Oh, you can't play the game. And he was walking,

if he was walking the other way, against traffic, I'd play the game. I'd be like, all right, even better. He's done this side of the street. And I've got a shit.

But he was walking in the direction that the cars were parked and I was parking up ahead of him. So I got in, I got out, I go to the meter. I'm like, I have to pop in,

like, you know, I have to pop in an hour here. And it was, it was in Bondi. So an hour's like $13 or something, it's wild. So I pay for it. As I'm at the computer, a guy comes up and he goes, no, what are you doing?

I go, I'm paying for parking. Took me a second to realize he goes, I thought you played the game. I said, no, I do play the game. I said, but look, the guys down there, he goes, you got to play the game, man. They said, hey, not in the face of certain death. Like, that's not the game. Yeah. And he's like, oh.

He was like, that's a bummer. Really? I really thought, like, hey, I'm just so you know, man, I am out there playing the game. I don't want you to think I'm going to play the game. But not the sheer madness of like, no one wins from me parking in front of the parking inspector going, what are you going to do about this? He will give me a ticket. That is what he'll do about this.

I think that's part of the game. Part of the, yeah, it was unsophisticated with the way. Yeah, he just thought the game was like a full protest vote. Like it was, I was like, no, no, the game is nuance. The game is, we must win at all costs. We can get away. So I was like, maybe I haven't made that clear. Maybe I was advertising myself as more of a renegade than I am.

No, it's worth clearing out. But a tactical deployment, that's a win because that was a definite ticket. What I should have done, now I'm just thinking in real time about it, he's gone to the guy, watch this. Come with me, should have walked down and said to the Ranger, Hey, mate, see that black car up there? I've paid for an hour parking. I normally never pay, but I saw you, and you can't get me.

I'm not sure if you should have done that. Then I won't want his respect to an real time. Gentlemen, I have a question for you. No right or wrong answer, but I I suppose this is a little bit of market research with a, you know, respondent group of two. Here's my question. We all know there are famous people. We all know there are well-known people.

We've done the test on the show before, Andy, about who you think you're cooler than. And that was an interesting ranking system. There was a controversial one that you were. You did think you were cool then. I think I played it pretty straight. I think you were pretty straight. He was above Carl, he was below Nick Curios. Yeah, you went below Nick Curious.

I think you thought, I think you beat Robert Irwin that was sort of like a line ball. Still, I think I do. Yeah. It's cool. No, cool, man. You're a cool dude. You're a cool dude.

I was cool, curious. I think Conrad Sewell was the tough one. That was the tough one. Yeah. Fun reflection, I'm cooler than Conrad. He's getting cool by the episode. Here's a similar, in a similar vein. We understand famous and we understand, you know, notorious.

But who is beloved? Oh, in Australia? Well, yeah, I've got a few names here. Or across the world. Because I actually think Beloved is a really hard rank. Pat Rafter. Gray one. Beloved, yeah.

Everybody loves Pat Rafter. And I'd put Mick Fanning in a similar. You have to have to have no chance of doing something, yeah, offensive. Because, like, Russell Crow, not beloved. Not beloved. As soon as he threw that. Mobile phone. If, you know, if something happened and, you know, would you ever see him described as beloved Australian actor?

No. Russell Crow. What about? People would claim he's New Zealander. Here's one that I think is hands down. I think it's easier if you're a character. So, like, bluey, beloved. I love it.

Oh, totally. I love it. So much easier if you're a character. I reckon it's hard as a sports person. It is pretty hard as a sports person. That's why Pat Rafter has, I think, risen. I mean, with someone like, I mean, I mentioned Hugh Jackman, if you play beloved characters, you can be a Larican.

Yeah. Well, going back to the cool list, Carl Stephanovic, is he beloved? No. No. It doesn't mean they're bad, these people, but they're... No, no, I think it's so hard to get beloved. Carrie Ann Kennelly. No.

I think it's easier to become beloved. you get older. I love Kerry Ann, but she found herself as some hot water with some of her takes. That's why cartoon characters are easier because they're never going to go. Like, Bluey's not getting into hot water. No.

Homer Simpson. Oh. No. Not beloved. Not beloved because he's too much of a jerk. Mudge. Okay, which of the Simpsons characters would be beloved? Any of them?

They've all got a sluggled. No, I don't think so. He all got some fallibility. Yeah, exactly. Dr. Hibbitt? No, he makes some mistakes. He's so jovial. He's laughing all the time.

But now getting so niche anyway that you can't be beloved. Steve Irwin was beloved. 100%. I was saving him for my... Well, he cracked the code, I think. I reckon it's quite hard to be beloved under 40. And I reckon he was one of the rare like, that is beloved under 40s.

Yes. Like, that is a hard combo to now because he can get old and, like, Bill Murray is beloved. Like, David Attenborough. Beloved. Loved. Yes. But I think he got more beloved as he gets older and older.

And he's just like, well, I mean, you can't fault the guy. Yeah. Just the world's grandpa. We bloody love David Attenborough. Yes. Queen Elizabeth. Is she beloved? Hmm.

Nah, it's not feeling right. And not to be, like, anti-monarchy, but it just doesn't feel wrong. I think it's tough for anyone with ultimate power to be beloved. I think you can't have arrogance and be beloved. She wasn't arrogant. No, but I'm just saying there's a few things that knock you out. If you've, like, the highest, like, a Bill Gates, like any of those high, like,

if you saw, you know, beloved entrepreneur Elon Masters passed away, you feel like someone from Elon's team wrote this. That's my point is I think anyone with that amount of. power, you feel, has stepped on a few heads on the way up. You're going to have to crack a few eggs to get up there. I think that's what happens. Even with Lizzie, even though she was born into it, I still feel a bit of plums in your mouth, silver spoon in your mouth, which takes away from belovedness.

Here's the thing. Anyone that has an opposing side, like there are people that are not monochists. Yes. So it's like, beloved, I suppose, means universally loved. Because she was loved by her fans, but not beloved. Maybe Burr, the Burr is just the universal bit. Yeah. Like, there's no one that's against him.

But like Pat Rafter would have had, I guess, people from other countries who didn't want to see him succeed on the tennis court. Yeah, there'd be some Spaniards, some Davis Cup people that... Yeah, I really... When we say universally, it can't be the world around because people will not think Pat Raffer's beloved in other countries, mainly because they won't know him. But I think from our perspective...

Yeah, we'd hate. Taylor Swift, just loved. Loved? Loved. Highly loved by some. Oh, yeah. Probably dangerously highly loved by some. A bit sycophantic.

But they're also really disliked Taylor. Okay. Andy Lee. Oh, yeah. Beloved. Cool and beloved. Guys, hadn't talked to him for a while, but our favourite human actor in Wall.

horse. Jeremy Irvine, of course. Our favourite actor in that film is the horse. The horse? Yeah. Our favourite human actor. This is such a deep cut. People should need,

Jeremy Irvine, loved actor. Not beloved. A loved actor. A loved actor. The Huky S was in the 2010, I'm going to say, or 11 film,

War Horse. Which was about a horse that, I think, again, a horse in World War I, that was, you know, courageous. We should watch it, guys. I think we've never seen it. I always assumed that you guys had seen it, how much you talk about it.

It's an 11-126 minutes. I'll just read, you know, it's a lot of horse. Well, mate, we've talked about him on the show more than 226 minutes. Anyway, he is an act that we saw in that trailer for that movie, Jeremy Irvine. He was also in Mamma Mia, I think, the musical movie. Anyway, became a huge friend of the show when back in radio days, we released. Andy by Hamish, the fragrance. Yes.

And he, we sent him, we were doing, can you waft it onto someone famous so he can say that someone famous is used it? And I think he wafted it upwind of Meryl Streep. Yeah, and then Broznan, he wafted it on. He was sprayed it on Brosman. I think he collected the whole cast of Motherland there. He wafted it across the whole cast on there.

It was definitely the number one ambassador for Andy by Hamish. So absolutely became, you know, forever more a diamond level friend of the show for the Hamish Annie Podcast. We have not heard from Jeremy for a while. Had just suddenly got a voice note WhatsApp to me on the weekend. This must be an easy system. Well, not really. We haven't heard from him in 10 years.

Very good point, Jack. And he had a message, I think for me, but I think for us. And anyway, this is our way. Hey, bud. I hope you're back. Well, I was at the pub last night with a mate and we were talking about bathroom habits and it was, it wasn't just an upset, Andy, actually.

It was an upset, Jeremy. But he said, obviously when men wipe their bums, he said, basically I used the postage stamp rule, which is when you look at the paper and there's anything smaller than something the size of a postage stamp, he considers that done. Oh no And then obviously

After I'd Looked at him in shock for a while He then goes Oh yeah And if I know round two's coming I don't really bother Because basically You're just wiping the end of a crayon

So Yeah I thought I don't know I thought Thought that might make the show It has It has

And it's made the show's Jaws drop What animal Yes exactly Even dogs have less than a postage stamp when they're finished and they don't have the opportunity to wipe due to lack of paper and thumbs but they are able to pinch cleanly. Yes.

Less than a postage stamp. Mate, even on your first wife, you're not getting more than a postage stamp. What disaster is going on that clear? This is great because I was interested in playing it. Obviously, I played it to Beck and she was shocked. I'm like, okay, that's the reaction I expected from Beck. And then I was like, but maybe just because that's my habit, it doesn't mean it's everyone's habit.

But seeing both of your doors up at the right time. You've got to have one clean sheet. Yeah, at least, Jack, at least. I go, I always remember, Andy, when we visited the troops in Afghanistan, like we flew over it, 2007, right? On the outside of a base, you always have to have a weapon with you at all times, but when you go in and out of the bases in Afghanistan, you have to show that your weapon is, like, ready to go, but not loaded.

Yes. And you have to dry fire into a barrel of sand, right? Just to go, okay, we're not walking around with a loaded weapon on the base. So when they say dry fire, that is just... Click, click, click. Click, click. Click the, but just to show there's no bullet in it. Yep.

In the chamber. That's my policy. Two blank, click. Two blank, like two clean, two clean pieces. And I believe we're not loaded. Like, that is now a safe ass to repack and take about your day. Yeah. I'm the same, mate.

I'm like that guy at, when the, nightclubs closed, going down and checking all stalls to make sure that we are completely empty. Yeah, doors aren't across checking it. Check, check, you check twice. You check twice. And so, um, it is an upset. And what's the, if, what's the, if round two's coming?

I didn't understand. That doesn't make any sense to me at all. Round two, like he's going to come back later or he's going to wait there until he, he needs to poo again? First of all, sometimes you can be on the tour and there's, you know, you might think there's going to be another wave of contractions and you stay there. In which case, you don't need to wipe in between that. No, no interval.

That's like one minute later. Yeah. If you are going to pass, if you're going to have a bowel movement again at some point in your life, which you will, and you're counting that as round two, that's always going to be around two. There's not sometimes. Even if you know you're going to do it in the same day, that's not an excuse. That's not round two. There's no such thing as round two.

There's this round and the next round. So I'm glad we were all in agreeance on that. Because my biggest fear was playing that and seeing one of you not a longer, oh, yeah, good, yeah, that's what I do the same. That was like that. I think we have to say to Jeremy, you will always be the number one friend of this show, but your friends are not our friends. This is not, this is a one degree policy only.

We can't be friends with that animal. He's out. Thanks for that. listening. The Hamish and Andy podcast will return next week. Catch up or contribute at hamish and Andy.com.