Hamish & Andy - 322 - The Bee Farm Re-Pitch

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Before making their final decision on what to do with the People’s Bitcoin, Hamish re-pitches his plan to purchase a bee farm. Andy plays a fun guessing game with the boys involving Siri. Hamish and Jack set Andy’s wedding planning challenges. Plus, Andy reveals his lawyer’s response to Hamish’s suggestion of sending out a 5-star health rating for Dimmies & Tinnies. 1. Bitcoin Ideas - The Price Is Correct 2. Andy’s Wedding Challenge 3. Siri Name Game 4. Health Star Penalties 

A listener production. Activate your internet. Because the Hamish and Andy podcast starts in three, two. Sorry, still buffering. Ahoie to me cuttlefish, Hamish. Hello, cuttle with a tea or cuddlefish? Are we fictional fish? No, cattle with a tea.

Yeah, yeah, great. I think we're invertebrose, but keep going. Ahoie to me squid. Things in the sea. I think we're invertebrates. I think we're things without spines. That would qualify, but it's not it. Are we members of...

Is there a... I don't watch... I haven't seen lots of SpongeBob Squarepants, but are we members of... No, I'm an octopus. You're an octopus and he's a squid. Yeah, and you're a cuttlefish. Are we things with...

Which one is the cuttlefish? It's chuffed. I think we all know the bone or the cartilage that you see on the beach. Has it something to do with a... sharp nose or something? Because I think they will have beaks. Do they have beaks?

Multiple brains? Or something like that. Brains in their tentacles. We've got... It's colder. Three hearts. We've all got three hearts. Nine hearts beat as one in here.

Yes, exactly. Go ahead and break one. Who cares? We've got another two to have. This is why I love so wildly because I can be heartbroken, a maximum of two times per day, until I get sad. Yes. So thanks for sending that one in. Also, a hoi to David, who went to hamishnami.com

using a very easy-to-use system to upload some audio of what he's been doing. Oh, guy. Oh, hoi, Hamish and Andy. David from Houston, Texas here. I am currently... End of a hike? Pacing outside my wedding venue. Oh.

Having arrived a full hour before the arrival time, which is a full three hours before the wedding. What a day. Just gave me a little bit of time to hyperventilate in peace. Anyway, I'd like to just give a shout out to my sister, Ellen, and my nephews, Luca, and Raf were coming all the way from Melbourne to Texas for my wedding. Luca will be a ring bearer, and Raphael will be one of our flower children. I love them lots.

Any words of advice for marriage? Thanks, boys. Keep up the good work. Huge. Few notable things there. decided not to shout out to his wife. Yeah. Get the feeling she's not a listener. Yes, that's true.

But I just thought that would have been in front of mine. But to be thinking about your favorite podcast, I mean, I'm putting words in his mouth here, but I think we all, with all nine of our hearts, we hope, in the bottom of the nine of our hearts, that we are his favorite podcast. Very, shows a great presence of mine. I mean, on the biggest day,

if you're going, you know what I'm going to do, a little message. Were you guys that nervous? He seemed really nervous. It sounded like he's walking around, and when I picture Texas, it's like hot and desert-like. He's sort of wandering around outside in the desert. He seemed delusional.

Seems like he'd been sent to a trick venue. And he was in the middle of the desert and an old, like a Quentin Tarantino set, like an old tumbling-down weatherboard church. Were you guys nervous? I was nervous. As soon as I got to the venue, I got really nervous. That matches David.

I mean, you were there, Andrew. I was absolutely cool as a cucumber. We're a guy playing acoustic guitar. I mean, if you remember correctly, I said, hey, chuck us the axe and I'll play a few. Why don't I play a couple of songs for everyone? I think you were more nervous because Hamish did a magic show instead of a wedding dance. Yep. And Zoe was the assistant.

She was nervous about the show. So, yeah, you weren't nervous about the battles or the ceremony. We had a lot of flies. We had an outside wedding in the Blue Mountains. And so there was tons of flies. and I was slightly nervous about that because annoyingly, I do just seem to have the pheromone that flies are attracted to

and it does give off the impression that I'm a garbage boy. That is unfair. I mean, look, I'm not saying I'm always in pristine condition, but on your wedding I had obviously shower. I'd show it and I thought I had done, I was at the height of really, you know, top point one percent of how you'll ever find me groomed.

And yet I still seem to be a fly magnet And that did seem to be unfair Is that your memory of the nuptials that he was stinky? No, no, he was looking as clean as I seen. It's good as he gets. And I don't remember a fly issue. A lot of flies, God, there's so many flies. Zoe got them caught under the veil.

That was the bad thing, like, because they got inside the fly wire, which is essentially what veil is. Yes. I mean, I'm not saying she skimped and did flywire. But she should have been most protected. Should have been most protected. And unfortunately it got under.

Not unlike the Mesh, a beekeeper wears. Oh, no. No. No. I know you want to move on. I know you want to move on. But I must bring up beekeeping. Let's just bring the people up the speed.

I'm not talking about being a flykeeper. I don't want to keep. That's how ironic. Flies flocked me, yet I don't seek to farm them. But I do wish to get their honey-producing cousins, the bee. Um, you, we recovered our Bitcoin, that we lost when it was at $1,700 or something, and now it's covered, and it's close to $100,000 now. And one of them is for the people.

We've got to spend $100,000 on the people. That's if we spend it today. And let it keep climbing, that's, you know. It's been dipping. But yeah, it hasn't been going great. And you suggested us starting a bee operation. Well, it came from a really a chance conversation that we had, Jack. And, but I think, and I think this happens a lot now.

nowadays. We had a kind of an offhand conversation and I had been thinking, wouldn't it be great if we could reinvested in a venture. And then we brought up, we're talking about Manuka honey before going and I was like, that's right. Manuka is an absolute jackpot. It really is liquid gold. The price people are selling Manuka Honey for, you know, it's $3,400 a jar. This stuff is, this is where the cash is at. Well, I heard from my next door neighbor who'd listen to the pod, Jezer, and he texts me. He's a beekeeper. Yeah, he's a beekeeper. But he's a hobby boy. No, no, he's not. Well, he's not one of the names I've heard floating around the bee community because I have actually had my ear to the ground and the hives and I've got

quite a bit of buzz from the bee world. What's he saying? Is he selling? He said, Hames wrong. He said, if you wanted to go from no hives to 120 hives, it'd be well over $60,000, need just equipment alone. As far as Manuka goes, it's one of like 170 varieties of tea tree. We actually have more of it in Australia than New Zealand. Just New Zealand are better at carrying on a bit. Yeah, that's why we want to do it there. That actually... Most of the honey game is marketing.

That says to me, open market. The hard part. See, that fact alone is kind of swayed me a little bit. Here's the hard part. Well, you can't force the bees onto the plant. Manuka only flowers once a year, he says. Flows a bit more in New Zealand. And not much around.

You'd have to truck the bees to that, but then keep them alive for the rest of the year. Doesn't know what he's talking about. Tell Hame, not to bother. Yep. Well, that's not. the information I got. There is okay money in bees if you want to work hard doesn't sound like him.

Yeah. That's classic gatekeeping. Isn't it? So he's, oh mate, don't come to Cuba Pedy. We're all out of Opels. Really? Really. Why is everyone flocking there?

Now you listen to me, Ando. I've done a little bit more than talk to my neighbour. I've had several nights on the couch with Zoe going, are you looking at bee you researching beekeeping again? Okay, so that's what I'm talking about here. not just one chat with a neighbour. The way Manuka Honey works is, and bear in mind that what I'm proposing to you guys is a premium, raw, organic, high country alpine, single origin honey operation.

Manuka? There would be Manuka, but we'd have three lines. We'd have wildflower, we'd have thyme or some other plant, and then our big, a high price point would be Manuka. How do you get to just go to the time? It just depends where you put the hives. You scatter them around. You've got to put them near the flower. Because you can't take a bee and squash it onto a flower and go eat that and put them back in the hive.

We can, but that seems labor-intensive and a bit mean to the bees. We don't know if that would work. And doesn't it take, like, thousands and thousands of bees to make a teaspoon of honey? So if we were tracking each bee and trying to use tweezers to put it on the right flour, that's... Again, I'm saying that's not the operation we're doing. And again, this is what our head beekeeper would do. Okay? Now, I know you've got other ideas, but.

I'm just saying, are you sure you don't want to start a bee operation? Because I have put the feelers out into the world for some hot up-and-coming beekeepers. And I mean like renegades. Bekeepers with a buzzet, real buzzer-verbal, breaking the rules. Not neighbours that keep it for a bit of fun. Real big names in the B-scene. He's got a commercial operation. Real big names in the B-Cing.

Yeah. Okay. But it just sounded like he was wasting time. Tell me if you thought this, Hamish, when he said, oh, you've got to truck your bees over to the manuka plant. We would just build the manuka plants. We would grow the manuka plants near build manoeia. We would build the avaries.

Averys? The hives. B-wives. Near the manooka tree. Yeah, you put them, you, that's where you lease it. Anyway, I've got the numbers. I'm just saying, I think it would be negligent of me. After all the research I've done on premium beekeeping operations

to not offer you this opportunity to invest this money, have in Hames honest honey or Hames B's or Hames Hives, whatever we want to call it. Well, can Jack and I agree to take this on board what you're going to present? Well, definitely won't be able to. That's the presentation. Yeah. But then from the outcome of a vote at the end of this determines whether we ever talk about bees again.

Great. Okay. You're upsetting the King Bee. Which I don't think is a powerful spot. No, there is no such thing as a King Bee. It's all the girls. They're all women, except for the drones. But I do think, should we choose to go forth with this?

It could be a bloody exciting adventure. And by the third or fourth year, when it's profitable, that's when the real money starts raining down. Okay. Yep, from all these. All those in favour of starting this single origin, Alpine, exciting, disruptive B Enterprise, raw honey, single origin, Alpine Honey Enterprise,

say buzz. Buzz? Unbelievable. A couple of sad bees outside. Heard the groans through the soundproof window. We've actually never heard a noise through the soundproof window. I don't know why they're saying. All the work of the bee operation would be lumped on you, Carly.

Yeah, exactly. From day one. I'd be on the head beekeeper. You might have a bit to do with finding a location for our honey house. That's where you bring the bee. That's where you bring the honey to. So it's a note from Jack and I, and we're putting a line through that. Sorry, just on the, I know we're not mentioning bees anymore.

But we did have someone, do you remember when my dad told me his dream, which was to run a medium-sized commercial duck farm, no more than 200 head of duck? Yeah. Remember that large-breasted ducks for eating, not herving at? But he knew of a French species of duck. It was a large-breasted mallard, I think. Not a coot.

Would we do that? Would we do that? Why do we want animals? There's so much work involved. I just think you look at, you know, AI is not taken over agriculture anytime soon. So we invest our money wisely in bees or ducks, and then you use the profits there to shower it upon the people every year.

Guys, with the duck money, we're flying you to New York. I don't think so. Not for me. There's one idea from last week that's really resonated with me. And I think it is a two, what you mentioned two stages, Jack. Yeah. I think this could be a two-stage thing. seeing if Hame can buy his way out of his addiction to impulse buying, interest me.

Can we end up with all this stuff? You'd have a lot of stuff. Lots of stuff. I think, to be fair, I said 24 hours. I was like, in 24 hours, I could spend $100,000. I could really do it in an hour, to be honest. Yeah. So if you didn't have to go through the checkout and stuff, if you're just saying,

buy that, buy that, buy that. You could easily do it in an hour. Even checking out. I mean, that's really only 20 things. worth $5,000. I could do one thing every three minutes, I reckon. So what I was thinking is we put 60 grand in Hames's bucket. What are you doing with the other 40? I think we hold a game show similar to the price is right.

We can even use old sets and invite all our listeners to come and play for the chance to win from Hamish Blake Impulse Buy Showcase. So I'm buying the Showcase. You buy the Showcase. You can then be Adriana Exentities or the person that sits buy the showcase and explains every item as people come and play for it in different games. We can vent our own game show. We could just try and get the old sets of Wheel of Fortune and play that. Is Will of Fortune over?

Is Price is right? That's gone. They're both gone. We could do a weird hybrid. We'll try and get the sets of both. Wheel of Price. Price is right had the better games than Wheel of Fortune. I think.

Yeah. And it was also the guessing of the price of the things. things was exciting and to have Hamish's showcase. And these would be way better. I mean, prices, where it was like a microwave. Yeah, exactly. This is way better than price. Now it could be robot shoes.

In case we can't use the name price is right. Yeah. We could have a similar type game, but different enough. Yeah. Okay. I guess the difference is we don't make any future money like we would with the ducks or bees possibly. Well, I don't think.

Someone's coming back on board with the bees. What would stop me from buying $60,000 worth of hives and associated with? I've made my purchases. Come on in, boys. Helen, come on down. Yeah, what would you like out? I think I want that $12,000 canning machine. Yes.

Very good. I want the jars sterilizing unit. It's actually worse than having the operation because then all our equipment is dispersed. Yeah, I'm setting up like 10 other people to steal our operation. No good, Andrew. Do you want to look into if those sets exist? I'll look into the rights.

Yeah. Well, just, I mean. It won't be a next week thing. Give us a few months. Let's us, but we should, what we should do. But you can find out quickly if this price of rights set exists. Yes. Somewhere backstage.

Yes. I could, we can find that out. Yeah. Yeah. And then if we do like this idea, we'll confirm, I do like the idea of setting a date for Hame to do the buying. To host the game show, you know, we can get like a few hundred people to come to the game show.

Oh, people can register, yeah. Because it will be, whatever the format we go with, it's got to be that you get picked out of the crowd. We definitely won't come on down. Yeah, we definitely won't come on down. But again, if we're not allowed to say that catfish. You're allowed to say, come on down. Well, maybe not.

It might be. Get on down here. Get on down here. It might be ours. Get on down here. The price is correct. Now Ando, am I allowed to tell the people of the people's show that it looks officially like there will be a royal wedding this year.

I'm not a royal wedding, but yes. Yes, Beck and I have got our act together. Mark my words, we will be married by the end of the year. By the time the government mandate of break rolls around again, there'll be three married men in here. All things going well. I don't know. I've had an ominous jinxing to it.

It's the kind of thing that Marci goes, hey, man, I've got this clip. I know how Jackson had divorced. I've got this hilarious clip from March 12th. You didn't know. You had no idea. You had no idea about being a secret family. Funny about that.

You don't hear about secret family. family's on the wife's side of things too often. No. Secret family is definitely a male thing. It's definitely a male thing. Harder for them to keep it as secret for nine months. Yeah. That's the part.

You've been carrying that basket of washing around for a while. Must remember to hang this out. Must remember to hang this out. Okay, Ando, big news, because over the break, the invitations came out. Yes. And Jack, did you receive one? Well, I've got to save the date. date. That was the invitation.

That's the, yeah, I thought so. Because you don't send to save the date without following up with an invitation. So the date is saved. We are expecting to go. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Triumph, Jack. I was like, is that a power move, ender that you've gone? Congratulations, you are in the top 200. So save the date and you will get, you will be informed if you've made the next round.

Here's something that was pointed out to me. Jack did say to me, we caught up. And he goes, did you only invite me? because I pointed at you on the podcast and said, I'd better be invited to your wedding aggressively. And I said, no, I'll never know for sure. Yeah. Well, that is in your head now, Jack.

You should have been a bit more gracious about it because it's actually a tight list. I know for a fact, it's a tight wedding list. How many head? How many head against you're running? We have got 80. Yep. Okay.

80 total. Oh, you're not happy with you? that's very small. That is a number that I would have been, if there was 80 people going and I wasn't part of that, I would have, I would have... What number would you have been surprised to be invited? If I said 40...

What band, 10 to 20, 20 to 50, 40, 40, 50. What band of person? Yeah, if you said there's only 30 people coming, I think, oh, Andy's got a big family. I can't believe I made the top 30. That feels special. Would you think top 40? Top 50, I would expect.

Top 40. top 40 I wouldn't throw the toys out of the podcast but top 50 I would start to you would notice a slump in my behaviour on the show well I would like

that Jack's only going to perform on the show if he's assured of a good table I'd like you to wear get made and wear a golden brooch with the number that you think that you fit like how Donald Trump has

the 45 hat. And that could be your number. That could be your number. Ando, on the invite that you sent out. Everyone wear the number rank they think they are. It would be an interesting social game to play. And then as you're there, you're like, oh my God, look at them. He thinks he's got 10.

It's basically, I mean, we're meant to be there for love, but yeah, kind of is traitors. We'll find out. On the invite, Andy you sent out, and this was brought to my attention, by another guest, the website where people could go to RSVP, there's no, like, you don't have to put in a certain code or you don't have to put your email address. It's just open.

Like anyone can go to that website. And it was pointed out to me by a friend of yours going, surely you can just start doing some random RSVPs here. And they go, like, why don't you just RSVP from Dave Abbott and just say, yeah, he's going along. Has anyone done any joke RSVPs? Dave Abbott was the high school bully. Is that why that name came up?

Well, you tell me, mate, because I didn't know. I wasn't aware of Dave Abbott until this was given to me, but would you have been shocked to see Dave Abbott plus one RSVP? I would have been shocked to see Dave Abbott, yeah, plus one. He's not sub-80, is he? No, he's high. He'd be seen his brooch. You need a wide brooch.

for how long the number is. Well, I just sort of alert you to that. Since then, security floor. He's fine. It's all sorted. We're all square with our high school bullies now. That happens in your 30s. Yes, true.

But that was why, for those that did actually get on an RSVP, there will be a secondary website coming, which is coded using the email. I just say, beef up your security. Are you just saying that now, or you had already thought of a secondary website? Because otherwise you have to guess what people's email they're going to use to put into code it. Yeah, you're right.

So now they have to, you know, give you that information first. On the actual wedding front, speaking of, you know, broches and stuff, have you let Jack know about his groomsman duties? Not required to tell him much. Come on. If you're a groomsman or I don't mind about that because I wouldn't, I would never explain. I'm and of course you're not. Yeah, and that's, I'm not surprised.

You can't expect to be a grooms, man. I'm not, I'm saying I'm not surprised. Wow, mate. I'm surprised. I'm not shocked that you are, but I don't think you were, I don't think you were 100%. I can safely say, because I don't want to see a slump in your performance.

I'll be wearing a number one badge. Nah, Hame was very locked in. But it could have been your brother and say your brother-in-law or something. Oh, my brother's in there. It's not like I've just gone home and said to my brother. Sorry, Cam, I would have, I would have loved to see more out of you over the whole life. We've known each other. I know Cam's in there.

Cam's in. How many groomsmen you're running? Three. See, that's good. You should be proud of that. Big Hogs. Very proud. Cam, Haim.

Tall groomsman. I'm the choice. Very tall. Are you going to put them, are you going to put yourself on a different platform to them? I'm going to wear a platform to them. I'm going to wear a platform. You're going to wear a plin. Well, Zoe mentioned the other day, she goes,

is Andy buying you suits? Yes. Great. Could I have a Tom Ford suit? No, we're not doing requests. Because I think there's not many of this. No. We would like premium.

Yes. Yes. It'll be premium. Great. Does that bother you, Jack, knowing I'm getting a free suit? for the wedding? No, no, it doesn't. It doesn't, but, like, it would, and I don't,

no, I don't even want to say, like, it would be cool if you bought the whole guest. Because I don't want to say that. It wouldn't be cool. No one's going 80, 40 men, 40 suits. Yeah, that is, that's ridiculous. Yeah. It would just be a cool, it wouldn't it be a cool thing to say?

It's like, oh, you know how some people buy their grooms and suits. Andy Lee's wedding. every man got a suit. No man left fine. You had a black one. You got to choose another suit. I don't know. I don't know if it's just the fact that people are saying that is worth the, you know,

$30 to $40,000 to $40,000 on a free seat. All right, well, I've got a lot of ideas, Anna. I've got a lot of ideas when we, someone actually raised this point. They said, oh, remember you once said that, because we were talking about the Twisties factory, back when we made the people's, chip with Smiths who also make Twisties. They were like, the guy said,

oh, you haven't lived, you've tasted a hot Twistie off the production line. And I think I said I'd take you for your bucks to the Twisties factory. It was on like episode 10 of the podcast. Wow. I'd take Andy to the Twisties factory for his bucks. Well, that's, yeah, keep your promises.

Well, we're talking about something else. Yeah, yeah. If that's okay with you. I have got other interests now as we're getting a bit old golf, for instance. If that is okay with you. But I got a lot of ideas. Got a lot of ideas.

Just speaking, I mean, going back to the brooch idea that you just had, which I think's great for people to put in a number of what they thought, we are going through the wedding planning at the moment. I know Beck doesn't listen to the podcast. And I'd appreciate everyone listening to keep this storm. Well, here's how I know you're going through the wedding planning, because Andy sent me a text not too long ago going, mate, how often do you watch your wedding video?

Like, is it worth it? I don't know, all right, here he goes, cutting costs on a wedding video, for sure. He's got a huge quote, obviously. Do you? Do you? We have literally never watched it. Have you ever watched yours? Once.

Yeah. I don't think it's there. We've said many times, and we should watch the wedding video, and we never do. No, no. I can just tell Andy had the red pen out. I was like he's in a finance meeting you with the wedding planner,

and he's going, cut, cut, cut. There's a lot of planning going on in the moment. Beck and I have to catch up regularly with the planner. I find it a little boring. So I was just thinking, there's a challenge to you both. fresh off the brooch idea. Could you come to me with three ideas, each at different levels of difficulty?

So you got a one point idea, a two point idea, a three point idea. For things where you want to see at the wedding or just think are good ideas? For a wedding and I will record secretly, record the wedding planning with Beck and I'll order with conversation with Beck and I'll bring them up. You have to sell them in though. I'll sell them in. Yep. And if...

Say it was the brooch one. How would you sell that in? Okay. Okay, you know, it could be fun, Beck. It's like, we get everyone on a brooch, and they have to write down how close they are out of the 80 guests, what number close to friendship they are. So it's a conversation starter.

It's a great icebreaker. Icebreaker. And then, yeah, so that would be the level. And then we'll just see Beck's reactions. How would you pitch to her, I want to buy every man a suit? Wow, well, you didn't want to buy. You didn't want to buy our wedding video. Why does everyone, what do the women get?

That's going to be tighter. Do the women get shoes? If that's your choice? No, let me have a thing. Let me have a thing. Okay, so next week on the pod, you guys have to present me three ideas, varying of difficulty, one, two, three.

And it'll be a game between the two of you. See, obviously, the biggest score you can get is six. And I'll run them into the wedding planning five. All right, done, done. Okay. Hame, watching the Olympics, winter Olympics recently, you do find a lot of commentators that haven't done much Winter Olympic work in the league up. Todd Woodbridge would be one, you would say, probably more known for his tennis.

Yep. It suddenly has to try and pronounce names that they're not regularly used to using. That's impressive. It's why on top of not being asked, it's why I, you could never do it. You could never do the job. Well, you'd have the problem of not recognizing the person as well as not being able to say their name. I'd be the most offensive coverage of all time.

I'd be there, you know, apart from Scotty James, I'd just go, I would just not be confident with anyone else. Every man version of that now I've realized in our lives is when we ask Siri to call someone and she looks through your phone, an Apple car player, whatever, and says now calling said person and says it with the confidence that she knows what she's talking about, even though she mispronounces the surnames or first names. It's so often. There are some clangers sometimes, which surprise me because sometimes she gets difficult names correct.

Yes, sometimes difficult names are easy. Like, Darcy here is married to Jane McKinley. And Siri calls her Mackinley. And I'm like, that one seems straightforward. You can get that one. My mom is still in my phone as Cabo because that's just what everyone calls her. And now, but she, that's fine. Siri is not meant to know that, but she calls her KBO.

And now I, when I want to call my mom, I'll just go call KBO. Yeah, it sounds like you're calling it. It's just easier if I speak her language rather than getting her to catch up to me. Well, I've turned it into a game today. Oh, good. Here we go. You guys, you verse each other, I'm going to give you a name from the contacts. You've got to try and predict how Siri will say it.

Right. I have thrown some in there that she's got right. So don't... Good. Okay, these aren't all clangers from her. These aren't all clangers. So are you ready to go? Yep.

Let's jump into it. The first name, Adam Rosenbach's. Very good comedian writer. Adam Rosenbarks. Sir names spelled R-O-Z-E-N-B-A-C-H-S. Jack, your serve first. How do you think would...

Big Siri is going to say Adam Rosenbach. I think with the CH on the end, she's gone. Adam Rosenbatchses. Batches. Okay. I mean, I've... Siri handles CH's in my experience. Oh, no, I've got to stop saying that word because every, like, my iPad, my phone is all just got to be here.

She has handled... Like, I've got a friend whose last name is Locke, L-O-C-H, no dramas there. Really? So, I reckon it's Rosin. I reckon she goes, Rosen. Okay. Rosen back. Do I want batches?

I'll just go Rosen. Rosen Barks. Robin Bark. Let's see. Siri, hey, Siri, please call Adam Rosenbarks. Calling Adam Rosenbach. I don't have to give that one. Hang on, Ben. Do you have the S on it, though?

Yeah, it does have an S on it. And she just didn't say the S? No. The S is silent to her. Oh. Bring me for a loop. That is early points to Jack. Second one is Elliot Garno.

Beck's stylist and friend, Elliot Garno, spelled G-A-R-N-A-U-T. Garn-O-N-A-U-T for sure. Garn-O-N-O-T. What are you going with? Garn-O-N-O-N-T, yeah. Oh, he's changing from nout to nought. Yeah, but she's going to pronounce the T for sure.

Okay, so you're noun or nought? Big money, nout. Oh, go nought. Let's have a look. Hey, Siri. please call Elliot Garnow. Calling Elliot Garnot. Oh,

he's got it again. Jack. Scooped in with my good ideas and just crumbed it. Well done. He's up. Next one, not in my context, but I thought I'd put it in just to see how she said. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

We all know Arnold Schwarzenegger. Swetzerger, it's spelled S-C-H-W-R-A-Z-E-N-E-W-G-E-R. Jack, you've got the serve. Okay, I think she's struggling with the CH we know. Arnold Schwarzenegger. I think she gets it right. Schwarzenegger, maybe. Like, maybe it adds a bit more of a one more syllable in there. Okay.

Hey, Siri, please call Arnold Schwarzenegger. Calling Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm going to give it to Hane. Careful, Siri. I know that one's a bit. A bit. Dicey. What's next, Andrew?

Yes, we have to move on. Next one. Waleed Ali. I'm sure. I'm a big. He was a good logie winning presenter. Walid Ali. Is it?

It's a L-Y, isn't it? A-L-Y. It's spelled A-L-Y. Hamish's got the surf. I'm going to go, Ali. Yeah, I like that. I'm going to say she gets Ali right, but Walid,

she trips on Walid and says, Wal-ed. Okay. Okay. Hey, Siri, call Walid Ali. Calling Walid Ali. He's pretty close. Give it to Haim. Have is back to all.

Neck and neck. Well done, you two. Next person is Liza out there. If it works for us. Oh yeah, okay, that is. Liza Altreos. Altraos, Spanish. Spelled A-L-T-A-R-E-J-O-S.

Well, I've been saying it wrong if I must put my hand out. Not just the robots that have trouble. How do you know we say it, Jake? I would have said Liza Altigeros. Yeah, sounds like you can get a label to spit. I'll go. Okay, that's that's his guess. Let's get the Lyme Altax dearest extra Galaxos.

I'll say Alta Raijos. Alta Regis. Yep. Okay. Siri, please call Liza. You've forgotten how to say it properly out of you. Yes. If you've only got one Lyser in your phone, that that's acceptable prompt.

Alterios, and I. Calling Lyser Alteroges. No points. No points. The new Solomon Alteris. Terrigus, take you higher. A terrible attempt. Altarigious.

Yeah, so no points there. We remain locked. Jack has the serve. Jack Post is the name. Spelled P-O-S-T. Oh my God, Andy's calling me. I think only because she said she gets it right sometimes and we haven't heard any right that she gets me right.

Okay. For some reason, you're in my phone. This would really upset, Andy. I know she can say Jack Post, but you're in my phone, Jack, I must have just, back in the day, filing error, you're in there as Jack Post Post. So your first name is Jack Post,

and your last name is Post, and so you're always listed as Jack Post Post. So she will always call Jack Post Post for me, but I don't think she'd say that for your phone, Ander, so I can't just say the same as Jack. Can I? Can I just go everything else then? I'll take all others.

Siri, call Jack Post. Calling the weasel. She knows. She knows. Incredible. Hey, I'm also sure if you saw this on your side of the fence of emails, hit us at hamishaney.com for any queries you might have. 50% go to H, 50% go to me.

A lot of people saying the government is pushing. for every single product to have a Hell Star rating. That was a big push over the summer. They didn't want to have the choose-to-play option. It does make it, it does make sense to go, if some people are getting scored, you know. I mean, we've been saying it for years, Andrew. Second half.

Who is monitoring this? Exactly. So second last show of last year, we revealed how it is. It's self-regulated. You put in your own ingredients. on a website. We did it for dimmys and tinnies. Yeah. And we got the star rating.

Yeah. And you can tweak that, not that we are suggesting anyone has done this. I mean, I'm wondering if Andy has, but we're not suggesting any other proper food companies have done this. But if you wanted to, you could just go, okay, well, what if I say it's got half as much salt? What do I get for that? And then you could just go, oh, God, okay, yeah, it's got a lot of fat in it. You can make up your own thing. I'll just say it's not saturated fat. about that. And then you could boost your star rating up.

And then it would be up to someone else to call foul on you, I assume, to get the star police to audit you to go, that's not right. And you suggested I did this for dimmies and tinies. This was last year, Ham? I said, why not have it? Send one out at five stars, see if you get a complaint. Yeah. Right?

Did you do that? So. So I said, hey, guys, we love Tom Fulery. Yeah, which is the casual name for fraud. Love a bit of Tom Fulery. Can we send out a pack of dimmys and tinnies? There's two flavours to pick one of them. By the way, the chicken and sweet, the chicken and corn survived.

Oh, yes, it was on the chopping block. It was on. It survived, really. But spicy pork, let's just call one of them five stars. Send them out of the wheel to see if we get in a complaint. Who's six stars? He's making it look like an amazing fridge. To which one of my business partners in it said,

hey, great, I'll check with the lawyers. And I was like, no. They're not into Tom Fulery. They're the biggest Tom Fulery killers of all times. Exactly. There's so little Tom Fulner you can have these days. What if there's a penalty, you know? I was like, who can't?

It won't be that bad. Like, what are they going to do? Exactly. Anyway, he has sent me the lawyer's letter. And so I've got it here. you today. I'm not expecting a, yeah, this sounds bloody funny. Let's do it.

I get it. Guys, this is a terrible idea. Now, what does he mean by that? No, no, no, that's just a value judgment. That's not an answer. At the very least, this would amount to a contravention section 29 of the Australian consumer law, ACL, which can attract, I don't know this word, pecuniary penalties. Just doesn't sound good.

If you're prosecuted by the A-T-C, 29, false or misleading representation of goods and services. A person must not make false or misleading representation for good to serves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it, we get it. Sure, that's the guideline. So I'm skipping down. We all know what we're going. Name one area you can have Tom Fuller if you follow the rules.

This is what I mean. You get charged with this stuff. You can plead to the judge to get it downgraded to Tom Flore. You just have to be able to. What go of a country you're living in when you can't get fraud? Yes. pled down to tom forlory garden variety tom forery so i said i'm just like it was long it was long and i'm like okay just tell us what the fine is if it's a slap on the wrist 1300 bucks

who you're getting that from mobile phone using your car it's about that i got to the section if prosecuted the maximum penalty for corporations is the greater of yep i don't like i never it was you see greater. $50 million five. Wow. It's the greater of $50 million. Yeah.

Or $100 million. Or three times the value of the reasonably attributed benefit obtained from the contact, which I wouldn't say. The greater of. It's the greater of. So at a minimum, we're in for $50 million five. Yeah. But if they can prove that you made another $20 million,

which we'd not. Unless you sold 200 million dint fin. I said everyone was like, mate, have you heard about these five-star teams? A billion sold. In which case, you would be then up for a billion dollars.

Yeah. Yeah. Or 30% of the company's adjusted annual turn over during the breach period. You've got to think about who's writing these laws. You can't make it tempting. The law can't be, if court,

you know, a third time, the company must run a specified gauntlet in under one minute. And if the company director makes it, then he's allowed to have three more breaches of the law. You can't make it exciting. You have to make it prohibited. I know.

Annoying, though. For an individual involved... The law is the least fun... The law is one of the least fun topics in the world. For an individual involved, they are exposed to a maximum penalty of $2.5 million fine. That goes to the individual. And he would definitely be exposed given the fact that he and Hamish have talked about it. Yeah.

We do have a recording of it. That also doesn't take it. into account damages that may be attributed for people that have bought it and deciding to sue that they didn't get the nutrition. I've been eating nothing but this and I've put on weight. Look, mate, I mean, you don't even need to keep reading. This is one of those ones of you. It's very clear from the outset that you guys aren't seeing the joke here.

Very clear. So, anyway, we'll do it. Anyway, we did do it. It went really well. People were absolutely loving them. What was yours anyway? Well, you were a three-star. Three and a half.

Three and a half. I think we came back with. Yeah, yeah. I think you came at three and a half when I tweaked it. I think we went off that as the rule. Don't you? No, all good. Tom Fulery, Tom Fulry, Tom Fulry.

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