Hamish & Andy - 339 - The 100 Pizza Challenge

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

A standout Jingle Joust makes a return, plus Hame introduces us to Luca, a listener of the show who very quickly becomes a crowd favourite with his exciting pizza challenge!! Song Sleuth is back and the accused doesn’t really stand a chance in this court room! Andy also brings a new game to the table, Rat or Frog, which slightly offends some of the team.  1. Jingle Joust 2. 100 Pizza Challenge Part 1 3. Song Sleuth - Olivia Rodrigo vs Foo Fighters 4. Potato or Tomato - Rat or Frog 5. 100 Pizza Challenge Part 2 - Call to Luca 

A listener production. Activate your internet. Because the Hamish and Andy podcast starts in three, two. Sorry, still buffering. One. Ahoi to me, medial, teragoid. We're ligaments. You say medial or meteor?

No, medial. Yeah, great. Meteor. Terrigoid is a terrifying meteorore. He's got to body part. Probably, God, it's going to be ankle, knee or shoulder. He's off to a good start, Jack. Is he got one of them?

No, no, he hasn't, but he's off. I just love the realm. Elbow. Ahoy to masseter. Oh, it's jaw. Mouth. Mouth. Jaw tendons.

Jaw muscles. Well done. We are the three primary muscles for mastication. Great. I am the temporalis. There is only one primary muscle for what you were thinking, Jack. I wasn't thinking any step in the pronunciation of mastication.

Yeah, the three primary muscles of eating. So, Hame, you are the supporting chewing muscle, the medial terroid. Yep. And you were the power muscle, Jack. Also. The masseter. So is one a close and one and open

and the other one just keeping it all together? Pretty much, I am the positioning muscle. I'm the controlling side to side. Because you know that fact about crocodile. where it's like, you know, they can, they have a bite force of like a million billion pounds, but they can barely open their mouths. Like, you know, you need to hold them with your pinky and your thumb, and they can't open their jaws very powerfully.

Really? Well, that's why when, like, you know, anyone from the Irwin family grabs a crocodile, they just sort of string up the mouth. Neatly. Because they can't really open their mouths, but they can obviously crush bones. Up force bad. You spent all their credits.

Your character points. All their credit, all their character points when they're setting up their character on EA Croc Builder. They just spent it all on downforce. Which is not sure like how they're not thinking oh someone's going to string up my mouth. What are the chances of that? Evolutionarily speaking,

they wouldn't have had too many things holding their mouth shut. Oh, also to Keegan, who is an Aussie traveling to Thailand at the moment. She went to hamishnear.com. Head there to keep us up informed. Straight to an internet cafe. Of course of millions and millions of bars to wait for the upload. Ahoy, Hamish and I and Jack.

Gusto to you all. Higin here coming to you from the middle of Thailand. Him. I thought I'd say a quick hello and a thank you actually because you guys are the reason I'm here today, I was watching an episode of your Gapyar Asia where you came to a rocket festival and I found out the exact same one that you guys came here in Yassetan,

books and tickets and here I am. Trying not to get hit by a rocket. Thank you so much for the travel-inspo boys. I really appreciate it. Keep up and go work on the pot. Jesus Christ. Yeah. And yeah, thanks a lot.

I'll try and get this to you as soon as I can once I find some Wi-Fi and I work out how to use your website. Thanks, boys. I've got to go, bye. There's a bit of kind of, well, some deep nostalgia there. There's deep nostalgia there. Yeah, the Rocket Fest, which we went to in Thailand. You were there, Jacko?

Safety was a low priority, is all I remember. They used all their character. points on the rocket. On clusters. They just were, people were climbing up any old bamboo structure. It was basically if NASA went, listen, we don't have enough

for launch pads, but what if we did a human pyramid? That could kind of hold the rocket straight as we let it go. We'll post our time at the Rocket Fest. We'll put that on our pipes. There's a bit of nostalgia one. But the other thing about the rockets, which made me laugh,

was when you think of a rocket, you think of a well-coned top and also tail fins. Yeah. So it cuts through the air and obviously goes in the direction it's pointed. I mean, it's not rocket signs. You're just bloody pointed out of it. But they didn't go any tail fins on the most part, nor any coned front. So they went here.

High-velocity logs. They went here. Yeah, it was logs. It was high-velocity logs. Kind of plays of rocket logs. A little bit of behind the scenes, though. Jack, I believe that was the night that I remember. the hotel was staying at. Remember it? Singing karaoke? Yeah, and it was, it was like a hotel that would

cater to perhaps a thousand people in the banquet hall, but it was completely, no one was there. And we were only people in the restaurant, and they had karaoke going. And we're like, yeah, right, we'll have a go and got up there. And you picked the song cocaine, like that bum, bum, bum, bum, ban, ban. But Jack's like, well, all right, go Jack. But then as soon as it come up, it's all in Thai. Yeah. And so everyone who just had to do their own, their own versions, which probably leads us perfectly to jingle jazz.

It does. Speaking of own versions of songs. Yes. And, I mean, we don't even get to select the song in this. No, that's true. We've had lots of requests for another round of jingle joust. If you're new to the pod, welcome by all means. But this is an unusual marketing method where the key creatives, us three, individually,

are given a song and a company. and you just have to try and make a jingle out of that song using their company. Can you meld them? Who's up first? It's not always the most positive experience for the company too. So for anyone that's like, oh, is this sponsored? A quick listen will clearly not sponsored. I'm happy to kick it off.

Because I was very disappointed with the song. How are we picking these, by the way? Because Carly just sends it to us yesterday. I think a random miser that she uses. Who put the songs in first, though? Andy. Charles. She's just giving me two points to you.

Well, I mean, I mean, I did not put this song in the Remariser. This I got, one day said collate a whole lot of popular songs. Is that what you did? Is that what you did? Oh, it's a Google to popular songs. Copypost. Well, I got Lady Marmalade. Oh, this is a good song.

By Pink and Co. Yes. Pink and the Gals. Christina Aguilera was one. Sorry, yes. Can't remember the others. Company. Anyway, not much rhymes with marmalade.

I mean, that's, as soon as you... What's the chorus of that? It's also got one of those weird things where they're a chicky, chicky-wawa. Like, it's got nonsense in the middle of it as well. Yeah, okay. This is Lady Marmalade. That was the big pet. I don't think you, I wouldn't have even known had the word marmalade in it.

You know? Yeah. I can't wait to hear you do your version of this. Anyway, Jack, that's the song. It's like, and then it's like the last bit, something of marmalade or something like that. It's probably not that. It's probably not that.

It's probably not that. Yeah, Devincheat. Anyway, the company I got was Qantas. So it's... You can't see Qantas. First of all, I mean, you always hear out any pitch from the ad agency. But I think if,

knowing how hard Qantas goes on Australia, and values. Yes. If you walk into the Qantas boardroom and you've got the account and you go, do you know that song from the early 2000s about, will you go to bed with me in French? By Pink and the Gals. We think that's the spirit of Australia.

Yes. Yes. Anyway, this is my attempt at combining Lady Manelaide with Qantas. Welcome aboard. Relax in the lounge of the flying kangaroo. Because traveling with us is a treat We say, hey Joe, where you want to go. Brisbane, then go, go choose your road.

Because the best flights, five price fairs do Adelaide. Marmalade, that's good. That's good. Talk to put half price fairs to Adelaide in a jingle. You are locked to that deal for a long time. And I don't think you choose your own row. No, I know that you do Well, you can choose your own seat,

which I suppose. You made it sound like they're getting on the plane and going choose your row. Yeah, look, you put a lot of deals in that jingle. Yes. I mean, apart from them going like, it's not really the spirit of Australia we were hoping before. They would also go, you've taken a bit of liberty there,

but we can't just do half-priced to Adelaide forever because it rhymes with Marmalade. And then, you know, the first line of their song was Mulan Rouge, I think, and I went, We're flying Keng, flying Roo. Well, that's good. That's good. Okay, I'm happy to go next.

Who did you get, Jack? I got Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls. Oh, I love this song. That is... Oh, yeah, it's easy. He's got it again. It's not easy. He's getting absolute...

Served on a platter, the most jingle of all songs. I think actually slow songs are the harder ones. Oh, that's not slow? This is slow. I don't... Compared to the fast music I listen to, this is very slow. We know what guitar are they? I would love a song that like that.

Speaking of Australia, I got Wheat Bix as my company, who also have a very famous jingle already with Aussie kids. It is a tough assignment to come into the sanitarian boardroom and go, I don't know if anyone knows the Wheat Bix jingle. Well, we think they do. Okay. Okay. So I've leaned into their patriotism.

Are you going the chorus or? Chorus. Okay. Emotional. And I don't want the world to feed me because I want to eat Australian. I want whole grain squished into food breaks. I want wheat-bicks sanitarium.

I want wheat fix from sanitarium. See, their parent company, what probably would be happy with that, because they weren't in the original jungle. What did you say? I want wheat bicks, comma, sanitarium. Yeah, yeah, but then the... Grain squashed into food bricks.

Oh, food bricks. I didn't like, the food bricks is... The food sounded like something else to me. No, not poo bricks. I was like, that's an interesting thing. Just wait. I liked it, Jack. Thank you, mate.

Yeah, I mean, it's one of those ones who go, that is catchy, but that's the Goo Goo Goo Doll's work, not Jack's work. What song did you get? Tough. Look, I'm calling and put my hand over here. Tough break. By Julio or Enrique, I can't remember which one.

Iglesias. Hero. Good song. How's that song? Oh, yeah. Slow. Slow songs are harder, we know. This is slow.

Yours was a chachat. This is a waltz. Yeah. This is slow. Enrico on LaGlacis. I think we had him on the show for this song back in the day. Could have him on last week, I would remember. We only wanted the Melbourne Cup live, I think,

and I was in women's shoes because I lost a bet with you or something. Let's be honest. Now we can speak freely because the radio days are behind us. The threshold for getting on the show at the Melbourne Cup was extremely low. We'd take anyone. We'd take anyone. Had to fill the whole show. There was only a limited amount of people there.

But thank you for coming on, Enrique. It's a memory that will live with us forever. With one of us. It's a memory that could stay with us forever. You'd have to assume it's somewhere, somewhere. in my memory bangs. It's so special. So as to not wear out the memory, my brain has protected me from it, so I just keep going back to it like an old VHS and wearing it out.

His credit he was a good bloke on the show. I loved him. No, he was great. Okay. I trust your recollection of it, so I'm willing to go, that's two votes for thanks for coming on, because he was a good guy. Bupa. Oh, health insurance. Health insurance.

Not that easily jinglible. Now, you would have preferred RIS, the easy one, Jack. I, like, to try and fit into Hero, I was like, all right, I've got in a little bit of, not trouble, but some of the feedback you guys kicking me is like, well, you've, maybe this isn't the most positive jingle. It's more just an honest assessment, you know. Okay. We all, like, when you've got private health cover, I don't think I'm alone and going, I've hurt my back.

You go to the chiropractor and they go, it goes $130. Do you have a private health? Yes, here it is. Okay, great news. Now it's $104. Oh, okay. I thought on the ads, it makes it seem like, you're going to take care of this. And now all your medical problems will be solved.

Like I had to have my wisdom teeth out. And I was like, I've got private health insurance. I'm like, oh, all right, well, this isn't covered. There's still thousands and thousands of dollars. Now, I'm not throwing any particular company on the bus. I'm just saying I think that's all of our experience in private health cover. It can be. I think it could be zero.

Yeah. But there is often a bit. Anyway, so obviously we're not leading with that. I think my strategy here for Booper is to just like highlight all the areas that them or any health insurance company could help you out. Let us be your hero. What if you non-fatally fell down a deep well? What if you bit honeycomb and you heard a big crack?

Not from the honeycomb. How would you pay? if your ears just fell away who would cover that ear emergency what if you sadly got a bit sick you have to do the whole thing

what if a hyena bit off your d'u-a- how would you pay for that doctor today Well, at Bupa, we have a solution for this. What if your bills were zero, baby?

What if we did all that you will, a fair bit to pay? Bupa, not going to lie. We're not going to cover it all. No one else does either. But we're absolutely a good choice, you know, all things considered. We're a lot like the others. Read the BDS. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Give us a shot. I mean, that's as fair as you. A minute and a half. We didn't need both verses. Yeah, that's true. Well, because it goes quiet, then it builds, then it goes to be a hero. Oh, very good. I mean.

I think it's, I'm just meeting. I'm last. I'm going to put myself as last. I mean, I think if you were really taking it to the company, the aim is going to be last because they're not going to lead with that. They would go, we appreciate your honesty, because we're all the same. But I think you can go with consumers. There's no.

one. The sooner response. I think Jack probably was the strongest jingle. Mm-hmm. I think it's, I think it's, for me, it's home today. I can't believe that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, when you do the Guzman and Gomez one,

they're reaching out to you being like, oh my God, thank you so much, have some free burritos. I don't expect a call. No, I wouldn't. I don't expect it. Do you think it's Jack? I think in terms of, yeah, being an actual jingle, yeah. Jack, you've got the decided.

I'll vote yourself or hang. I'll go for mine. It's short and sweet. Yep. And a great Australian company. A victory for Jack. More done, Jacko. That's something very interesting happened to me the other day.

And it sort of wrong-footed me because I was, it just wasn't expecting it. I was in a situation where there's a bunch of people around, right? You guys know we're shooting this new TV show at the moment. Yeah. Right. Won't be out for months. I've done this thing. We're sort of finished filming.

the day. And one of the people that were around, this Italian guy, or a family's house, he didn't live in the family. He was just visiting this family. Sunsetting, kind of finished filming. If you know what's like on a television, when you finish filming, everyone's packing up, you know, like the day's over, comes up, taps me on the shoulder and he goes, Hey, Hamish, this guy's name is Luca. He's working on the show. He's just a friend of the family. He was visiting the house we were at filming, like, the family. And love a guy. But he goes, hey, like, stairs me, straight in the eye. And Italian to Italian, you know when it's business time to talk, right?

So he's obviously smelt in me 1-8th Sicilian. Yep. I didn't get the statistic, but I would say he'd be up to 100% Italian. Okay. So you've got 100% of talking to a 12.5% of it, but it's still... There's a connection. Deep connection. If he can locate the 12.5.

It's internal. Yeah. I give you that it's not an olive-skinned. No. You wouldn't know from a quick glance. but it is deep in me and he sensed it. Yeah. So he goes, I have a proposal for you.

And he sort of set it quite low. And I said, okay, he goes, I challenge you. So straight away, I'm like, this is, this is real. This is happening. I'm getting challenged. I don't think it's to the death, but this feels like a real challenge. He goes, I challenge you to make a better pizza than me. Okay, he goes, I give you two chances.

I give you two chances to cook a better pizza than me at my pizza shop. If you do it, I'll give you 100 pizzas. Now I'm listening. So do you have to put the dough in? So anyway, he was saying it like it was like, you know, I felt like I was in, you know, Rome in the 12th century and he's like at the midnight and he's just whispering some sort of like illicit deal to me to overthrow the Pope order. Like I had this real dramatic feel to it.

He's like, I challenge you. So he goes, first he goes, you make a better pizza? No, I'll give you two chances. So I get two pizzas. Okay. You beat me. You win 100 pizzas. Who's judging?

So many questions, right? So straight away, I go, interesting challenge. And he goes, do you accept? And he said, I feel like I should because I said, I'm not sure. But internally, my head was going, well, it doesn't seem like I have to put anything up against this. It's not like I have to. It's free for you. Yeah, I don't have to work as his, you know, pizza oven cleaner for a year.

year if I lose. Like, it just seems like a win, neutral or win situation. And then he's waiting for me to accept the challenge. And I said, just give me your details. Let me think about this proposal. Because I do want 100 pizzas. But I also, it was in Melbourne. And I do live in Sydney.

So it's not geographically convenient. The first thing that went through my head was they need to be transferable. That's the first part of it. the prize here. I won't eat 100 pizzas at this shop. No. It's in Endeavour Hills. Yes.

Great part of Melbourne. It's not there a heap. No. It needs to be more convenient. Or giftable. Yeah. You know, maybe to listeners of the podcast.

And it's not a chain? It's a one-off pizza store. Yeah. Which are normally where the best pizzas come from. And now I was also conflicting because I'm like, we are, you know, we have Zio Pinos. That's kind of like. Yeah. But I have a preferred pizza shop for the show.

The reason I was curious about this was of all the food. was of all the foods to make, I feel like I can make a decent pizza. Do you have to make the dough? Oh, God, I hope not. The dough is the hardest bit. This is the question, can we call him? We can call him, but here's the thing.

Let's just get our stories straight before we call him. First of all, on behalf of the show, do we want to do this challenge? Yeah, I do, yeah. Yeah, I want him to win a hundred pizzas. I like that I get two chances. But what's the, like, is it a blind test to people? Like, I make two, and he makes two? and we serve them out to people

and then people have to guess which one was my pizza and if they can't. Not even guess, it's just which one did you prefer? Here's how I'd negotiate it. I would say you put out two, he only gets one. Yeah, and they have to. And then people try all three slices. And they have to name their favorite slice.

And then. Oh, I thought he was better. Didn't you hear you get two chances? It's like, then come back next week. If you lose. No, he said two pizzas. You get to make two pizzas. See if you can.

beat me. Okay. So that's what I, the other thing is, obviously we all have our favorite pizza. Yep. So whoever's the judge, are they making the order and you're having to make that pizza? Or are you inventing a whole new pizza? Like, are we cooking three margaritas? Yes.

That I think will give me away because you'll go, okay, well, there's two margaritas that looks similar. One margarita looks different. We'll try and make it, we'll try and make the second one look different on purpose. Here's the other thing we could do. Usually six to eight slices in a pizza. Yeah. times three, that's between 18 and 24 people.

So does everyone come along? Do we get 18 to 24 judges and everyone needs one piece? I don't actually need everyone to have three pieces, don't you? Three pieces. But I like that idea where you... Eight people. A jury of six or eight. And then they get three slices.

Yeah, one slice of each pieces. One of them is his. And then it's a pooled voting system. Is it 321 or just your favourite? Good question. probably three, two, one. Wow. I don't think so.

I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so only because... Just gets messy. Yeah, no, because you could, then you can be getting points. It's the best I can make a better pizza. It's binary, I think it's on and off of there. So I would say, but it gets everyone's blue.

And then hate becomes such a huge factor there. Because obviously the pizza you eat, probably the pizza you eat in the middle is going to be your best slice, I reckon. Because the first one can be a bit hot, but you're hungry. Whichever slice you eat third is still enjoyable, but you know that, You know that's over. We could time them out of the shop, like they had to the rack of the oven. So everyone gets at the right temperature.

Fresh time. And we wait? Yeah, so we could ask him how long he would normally wait for the best eating times. They come out, they wait, say a minute, they land, they eat it, and we time the next one to come out, wait a minute, off they go. How would you feel about for people in that area near Endeavour Hills, If you're amongst the first 100 customers to this place and you have the Hamishanid loyalty card after we win,

you get a free pizza. You go and get your free pizza. Until the 100s drained. Yeah, leave a tab. A tab of pizza. That's what enchanted me about this. This is very inconvenient for me geographically. I don't think it changed anything,

but this is one part that they might question is if our jury is coming from our listeners and they stand to win. Does that compromise? They're judging. But they shouldn't even know which ones which anyway. So if it's blind, it doesn't matter. I think it's just your taste buds, your taste buds don't know.

Yeah. I mean, do you want to call Luca? Yeah. I've got his number here. Great. What size for the 100? I think family can get a bit silly. I think large is the correct size for pizza.

I think it just gets the cross to like acreage ratio is so far. off. No, I think if you want to eat a family pizza, I get a family pizza, but I'm just, I just don't think, and that likewise, small pizzas are wrong too, because there's too much crust to middle. All right, Jack, here's the number. That's cool, Luca. Hello? Is that Luca? Yeah. Luca, it's Hamish Blake here. You recently challenged me to win 100 pizzas from you. Oh, Amish. I'm happy to get your call, man. I'm happy to accept the challenge. Amish, can I just ask you to call me that. I mean, I'm in a meeting.

You're at the restaurant. Of course. So if you wouldn't mind to call me that given 10, 15 minutes, I can sit down and have a nice shot with you. Fantastic. I'll talk to you in 15 minutes. Thank you, Amish. I love, I'm looking forward.

Me too, Amish. Thanks, mate. Bye. Bye. Definitely 100% Italian. I don't think we need to do a sting like we did with Pino. We'll do some more bits. We'll call them back by the end of the show.

Yeah, great. Plenty of these come in. You probably get a few on your side of the fence, ham. I'm talking about song sleuths. I'm too busy investigating stuff to blow wide open. It's like, hey, you've sent this to the FBI. I'm the CIA. Sorry, I'm not even going to get back to you.

Can I say this just as a general rule? Normally what I do, Jack, is just go, type in the song, and say sample, and it normally says, we are sampling another song. That's not what song sleuth is about. People acknowledge, if anywhere in the Wikipedia, they're acknowledging a sample, we go, that's fine, clean living, off your trot. This one doesn't have a sample registered, hence it's part of this today. This sounds like this sounds like this sounds like this.

If this sounds like that, I'm your man. Andy Lee, song sleuth. Now, I'm going to play you the start of a song. Both of you will listen and then you tell me what song you think it is. Yeah. Tough one for me because I don't really know the names of songs. No songs. But even if you just get the vibe and go, oh yeah, I think I know this song.

Yep, yep, yeah, yeah. Is it a foo fighter song? Yeah, I think it sounds, it's not exactly, but it sounds like Evalon by Foo Fighters. Hello. I've waited here for you. It's not. It is not. It's not.

It's Olivia Rodriguez news of the cure. That's how it starts. You don't need to do too much of a DNA analysis. They don't need to cut Olivia open and count the rings and cut Dave Grohl open and count his rings to see who's older. He came first. I think we know that Dave Grohl came first. Yes, that one came first.

I've plucked the acoustic version. of Everlong, Foo Fighters. This is how that one starts. It's different. This is the bit where I usually go, like, you guys are guitar guys. You're the classical musicians amongst the three of us as musicians. I'm a feel guy.

You know all the letters. You know all the numbers. You know about the timing. But the thing about a song... I don't care for it. But there are so few options. Like, every good boy deserves fruit. There's just not many.

There's only those few letters. out that, like the tone, the style, the tempo. Yeah. I mean, it's going to sound the same, mate. They're on guitars. You can't know the guitar. No, no, no. So obviously, it sounds like, that sounds like if an ad couldn't afford the Foo Fighters song, so they said make it sound as similar as possible without getting us in trouble. Yes. Olivia ain't cheap. But they are, they are getting in trouble. They're getting in trouble by me. Now, the songs themselves, Jack, if you go over to the hooks of both, they definitely depart once they get into Lyric Town. Yeah. Right. So this is the

hook of the song called The Cure by Olivia Rodriguez. Yeah. See, there's nothing about that that sounds like Evalon, which is... Yeah, well, the Cure, I mean, is also a band name, so she's stolen that. But one again. Well, obviously, Evalong, this is how the chorus sounds for this one. If everything could ever feel this real forever, anything could ever be this good. So no...

Can I just say here, and I know you try to do this impartially, but I know you're a foo-fighter's fan-am. So you're bopping your head to that, and you're like getting into the groove because you love the song. I would be worried if I was Olivia in the courtroom. Yes. The judge seems to be into that initial song. And Dave, before you...

Can you just sign my album? Played a sample of mine, scrunched his nose up, or was a bit bored, was like doing a Sudoku, but then played Dave's for like five minutes. It was like rocking out. We have to put it. through the lab. That's what happens at the end of this. Sure. Well, it seems like the judge might have made up

his mind. This is Olivia Rodriguez into food fighters. I think Fivvho's got one extra note in there. It does. The high ding. What's that? That's the high string. What's it called? No, that's what we refer to it in the music industry.

High ding? Yeah. Ding ding ding, ding. What's that note, Jack? I just said it's a higher string. Like he's playing a higher string than what Olivia is playing. Name a high string. higher string than what would it be. Well it depends. B is higher than a G and a D is higher than a B. See? This is what I mean to meet you guys knowing all the letters and all the numbers and stuff. But it depends when you're holding the B string. So I'm not holding it at all. I'm the drummer.

Anyway, guilty. I don't know. I'd still drum to that. Beck goes to me the other day, quite like the World Cup. And I was like, oh. Popular, certainly a popular event. But Beck's not traditionally into sport. Yep. She has been it allows me to play that game where every country is, either a tomato or potato.

Have you ever heard that before? No. I was like, what are you too much? You know the rule, like that you can divide all countries in the world to either being a tomato or a potato. I don't think it's a UN rule. I said, well. I feel like I would have noticed at the UN if there's a big, like, everyone's sitting on the white side, everyone's on the red side.

She goes, it feels a bit ready, steady cook. She said, well, throw, I said, is it what they eat most? She said, no, just the sense of, you know, is it smooth or like what kind of things they like. I said, well, give me an example. She goes, Italy. What tomato. By tomato. Oh, my God.

Russia. Okay, potato. But now we're just listing staple foods of these countries. And that's why, as I went down. Yeah. It can get harder. Like, you know. She said, England.

Potato. I think potato as well. Brazil. Tomato. Tomato. Yeah. Island potato. Of course.

These are easy. Spain. Tomato. Tomato. Yep. Fiji. You know what I mean? Like, I think you get into this.

Tomato, I reckon. Or tomato, sorry, I think. Once you get into countries that aren't associated normally with either of these two foods. But she said, what is it as a feel when you're in there? Antarctica. Antarctica. Yeah. What's Australia?

I would say Fiji's tomato. Like, they're doing more saucy-based stuff over there. I think the game works in theory. But are we saying that tomato represents a livelier sense and potato is a more kind of like solid, reliable, starchy feel? I asked her this and she said it's just the vibe. Just the vibe. Australia?

I feel like it's got to be a tomato, to be honest. I think we're a tomato. Tricky because Australia is like, Hot chips and sauce is a staple of Australia and that is both. That is both. Could we be the first country with both? Yeah, we are.

So I said, Beck, it can't go down to every country, she says, you can go to every single country. Normally one flips onto a vibe. She goes, it's like the frogs and rats theory. Yeah. And I went, what's frogs and rats? She goes, you know how all humans are either a frog or a rat? Wow.

What did you mean? I went, what do you mean? She goes, you know, like everyone, you can divide everybody until, whether they're a frog or a rat. And she goes, like, Mike Lee, your dad, frog. And I was like, yeah. It's a big court to come out as the number one example.

Your dad's a rat. I got to be honest with you. He's a big rat. Neither is that flattering. I don't think it's good to be a rat or a frog. I mean, I said it's not like one, she said one's not better than the other. It's just what your personality is.

Can you divide all animals into frogs and rats? Probably. That would be a frog. That would be an antin for a docker I would love to watch. The eagle. Or the frog. of the sky. Just joking.

We all know it's more of an air rat. So, I thought that for our team in here, we should go through frogs and rats. Wow, okay. Well, Jack, you know, unfortunately, not just here, weasel is going to be close to rat. Weasel is a connotation.

You just spin out of the frogs. Liza. Frog. Frog. This is, this feels mean. Darsie. Darsie. Both are mean.

Rat. You reckon? I think Tarsie's a frog. He's always just. being kind of laid back. Frogs are smiley, and I'll give them ghasty, is smiley. But rats can be smiley and cheeky too.

Rats, that's, that's not mean bad. I'm a bit of a rat. Oh, you're a rat. Cheeky rat, rat with a gold tooth. You're a rat. Carly? Rat. Yep.

Elegant rat. Very elegant, right. I went to a country show once and there was the rat fanciest society. Yeah. And I was actually asked to judge rat of the year. but I couldn't hang around to a tour. Marshy? And frog.

Marsh is a frog. But I was going to say, Carl, you're more like one of those, the rats that could win rat of the year. Yeah. Like, and they were kind of had silky coats

and they were very well-kept rats. Cambo, a digital guy? Frog. Frog? I agree. Yep. Yep. Jess.

Frog. She's a frog. Frog. Myself. Tough. Yeah, yeah. You're a bit of a line ball. I'm thinking frog because your dad's a frog,

but otherwise. Hard for a frog to have. coming easily. I think I'm a rat. You are a rat. You are a rat. I mean, there's just... Yeah, we like hijinks too much.

Anything that's got a bit of... Anything that could say one thing to your face and then quietly go off to the others and go, we're not going to do that. They have to be rats. That's not frog behaviour. It's been a little while now. Before we go, we should...

Let's call Luca back. I think we've left it well long enough now to see... Let's lay down some rules of how we can win these 100 people. Will you introduce it? Yes, I will. Amish, what a perfect time. Ah, Luca.

That scared me. It's already first challenge. Fifty minutes you made it. That's it. Well, to be fair, I hope it's not the only time I meet or exceed your expectations with what I'm capable of. I'm here with Andy and Jack, my two friends. Hello, Luca. We do the podcast.

Hello, everyone, guys. Ciao. Ciao, Luca. Now, Luca, now, Luca, I, was just telling my friends here, recapping the situation where you challenged me to a pizza-making contest. The way I remember it is I get to make

two pizzas to try and beat you, and if I beat you, I win 100 pizzas. Well, I tell you don't have to beat me. You have to at least get me. You need to do at least good as I do. If you are able to do that, you win 100

pizza. Draw or big. I love that. I mean, we're talking about the best pizza Australia in 2025, recognized by Pizza Dock in Naples. I just won last year. So you pretty much going to make exactly the best pizza of Australia. But, Luca, a lot of people are worried that since you won the award, you've rested on your laurels and you've dropped your performance. What if I've been secretly training?

Oh, my gosh. No, actually, since I won, I just wake up better, every day better. because I have people's expectations to don't disappoint. Yeah, it is the head. I'm going to tell you these guys. Yep, you wear the title. It can weigh heavily on your shoulders.

Okay, here, we need to create some ground rules for this, Luca. And am I able to use the ingredients in your kitchen or must I bring my own? No, of course you can use my ingredients, yeah. Wow. Okay, so even the doughs, like you will, you guys, the three of you will start with the same dough? Yeah, like, of course.

Otherwise, it's going to be very hard for you to make it, to be honest. Okay. My door is maybe 70% of the result. Yeah, I mean, the does the secret. You're going to be in the right condition to get it. Here's what we were thinking, Luca. Well, obviously, we'll do it at your pizza shop. This is our proposal.

We come in, I make two pizzas, you make one pizza. We then have six random people that we select. through a process will determine later. Six random people as the judges sitting in the store. One at a time the pizzas are bought out by not us. Someone else placed in front of the six people. Everyone has a slice and they score it out of 10 and they wait. Then the next pizza comes out, everyone has another slice.

They score it out of 10, they wait. Next piece it comes out, they score it out of 10 they wait. The pizza with the highest total score, should be the winning pizza. Wow. Wow. I'm very risky for my brand. Oh, very risky, but that's what I love about it.

I love it, though. Make things exciting. We agree. So there'll be a jury of selection. We'll make Jack, who works for this here, he'll be the foreman of that jury. He'll be the head juror. And then I'll be impartial.

And you'll be impartial. And I'll be keeping an eye on you two. And I guess, Luke, we just have to come back with you with a set date that's, we won't do it during a busy time, obviously, because you'll have other customers in there, but we'll work out of time to come and visit you. That's a really well-thinking challenge,

and it is risky, but I like it. I like it. Second thing, I don't mind, obviously, guys, to have you even when I'm busy, it doesn't matter. It's such an honor to have you here, right? Besides the challenge, for me, it's good to have you here. I love it. Okay.

I actually want it on not a busy night, because I don't want you warming up on all these other pizzas. I'm becoming in cold. Oh, man, that's going to be so fucking fun. I love it. I love it. It's even more risky because if you beat me, man, like that's mean all the world's going to know,

I'm not anymore the best pizza maker of Australia. That's true. This is going to be tough. I love it. I love the risk. And we were thinking, for the 100 pizzas, it's not something I could really eat on the night or take away.

And because I don't live too close to the shop, we will come up with a way to leave 100 pizzas credit at the store. Should I win 100 pizzas credit? And that way, maybe listeners of the podcast, if they're in the area, they can go and hopefully in an orderly fashion, not eating 20 at once. I've got a good system in mind.

And he's got a good system for that too. Then we can just leave 100 pizzas credit. And people can bring in, like they can identify themselves as, as customers that are here for one free pizza, a care of Hamish and Andy. Well, this is really, that's, as you thought, probably, it's really good for my, supporting my business a lot. I can't see how, because you down 100 pizzas. We might not.

We might not look up. I go for you looking. We might cripple the whole place. This is just going to be two men with Italian heritage facing off in the only way we know how. Yes. Pizza. Pizza. Pizza, Jewel. We'll come back to you to lock in Pea Day, Pizza Day.

It's going to be a few weeks because I might, I'm not saying we're going to practice, but I'm just going to have a think about things rather than just jump straight into this, because I am taking on the best in the world. Yeah, we'll lock it in. Thank you, Luke. You know what, Matt.

We know what can I do? I can put to make a little, I want to help you somehow. Don't. I'm your enemy. No, don't help him. Don't expose. any, you need to win here. I'm maybe going to do my pizza with my eyes blind.

Eyes closed. I don't need your charity, man. Hey, you don't want you to lose this. Maybe we're one hand. I also don't want any excuses. Yeah, yeah. I don't need a line-fielder on one-hand. This is a genuine event.

I want to take on the best. Let's do that. Let's do that. Okay. We're in touch. We'll be in touch. You just come to see. see me, without saying anything to anyone,

just between me and you, and I give you a quick class. No, no, he does. It's too nice, too nicely, because this is meant to be a fight to the bed. I know you've got Italian blood, but I do. It's in me. Oh, God, you have to... See, he can detect it. It's on, Rooka. I can't wait to be spinning

spinning discs with you. Okay, that I'd say that. Oh, fantastic. Man, I'm excited. The best thing's happened to me today. Okay, great, Luca. We'll be in touch. See you, buddy. All right, guys. Good day. Ciao. Bye-bye. Chau, chas, chow. Chah.

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