Hamish & Andy - Hamish & Andy 2022 Ep 184

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

1. Rexona’s response 2. Fart investigation 3. Upset Andy 4. Pancake Parlour mystery 5. Everyone wants your data 

A LISTENUP PRODUCTION Activate your internet Cause the Hamish and the Podcast starts in 3, 2, sorry, still buffering 1 A Hoi to me wackaki ita, hamish I'll eat anything, I don't care how waki it is Ahoy to me shukunin I'll put the shoes on, not my shoes

OK, it's done It's a fun game every time we're passing OK Yes, and I would be the Ita-Amei. Japanese... Are we playing Japanese? We are.

I mean, I apologize to anyone for Japan, for my pronunciation, because it's probably not good, but what are we? But we work with Sumas. No, we don't. No, we don't. We are... So much more. We are chefs. We are Japanese...

Sushi chefs. We are Japanese sushi-yes. It's Chef's. That's why. Sushi chefs. We are Japanese sushi. Chefs. That's why I'm the wacky eater. No, we like do it. Eat the puff of fish. That's the wackiest of them all. Eat it.

Wacky eater, I hope I'm pretty sure you need to translate it, near the cutting board. You're using one way. You're preparing ingredients. Box of fish, grading fingers, and what? What should we do? Like using, grading fingers, and what? What should we do? Like using the grading finger like little

and slicing scallion, scallion. Jack, Shukunin is someone basically who is very skilled in your profession, but often used as just an alternative. Like what am I doing? You're not a rock-up work. I'm the bench. What do you do? I think Jack, great question. Finish this thought. What do I do? I turn up to work.

But then it doesn't seem to do much. Who am I? That's why I am the shikkonen. That's why I really was perfect for it. Perfect assignment. And I was the head sushi chef to the world, which was quite a good use of training in a British almost 20 years. Yes, that's just the way to cancel.

I saw a hoi all the way to Isaac in the city of Brisbane, Australia. Hi, hoi boys, Isaac from Brisbane here. I really enjoyed your recent discussion about Peter out. City of Brisbane Australia. Hi boys, I'm Zach from Brisbane here. I really enjoyed your recent discussion about Peter out. I've actually been a follower of his for quite some time. Thought we had an opportunity maybe to spread his word to a younger audience by establishing a St. Peter out college. School motto would be achieving excellence and.

I think the other boys probably look about year one maybe through to around year nineish sort of see how we go. Bell times, firm 830 start each day and then I reckon we just see how we go. Right after around lunch time probably sounds pretty good. I think Fridays will just go optional for students and staff. Only possible issue I can foresee with all this is the interschool sport side of things. I think we might have some issues particularly in the second half of our big games. But yeah, let me know what you think. We're all forward to it. I liked our Friday's was optional for students

and stuff. I love it if all the staff take it off in students. Well, I mean, if you've got students who are struggling to understand his word as as as it was put They'd turn up on Friday and be like where's Mr He's the best He's the best We've got to learn we've got to pay more attention. He's trying to teach us and we just keep turning up He's the best of Peter outs nice I'm another bit of business. We had to get to we bought up

And we leveled accusations against uni-leaver, the huge brand. Bigs don't, yeah, bigs don't. That has Rexona as one of their deodorants underneath an umbrella of many other products. And we bought on a lawyer to see how we go because the scent of their, what was it? Coconut cleanse scent? Yep. Very similar to the scent of Andy by Hamish, which was a smart casual fragrance for me. You can dress up that you bought out without my permission.

It's one of those things that I've done. If our play was a foot, you just take your hat off to them and you go very, very clever. You've gone to one of the world's most delicious smells that almost impossible to get your hands on. The no one will smell a rat. And you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, everything goes well. No rats will be smelled. That's sort of their motto at Exxoner really.

You know, if you smell a rat, we haven't done our job. That's true. They are, they are, they are, familiar with this smell of cover. Robster Exxoner, if you smell a rat, we haven't done our job. We're not doing our job. And that really their job is, that kind of kind of in the science of cover-ups. Now they think about it.

That is. Because your armpits are trying to tell the truth and they're trying to cover it up. This is what's happening right now. And I think that attitude runs through the whole company and they think cover-ups are okay. Because they're like, why don't we? Because how do we start pointing at each other? This is how we make our money by covering things up. Where are cover-up companies?

I can't believe it's taken us that long to put the pieces together, but like sometimes you just need to get in there and say it. Like at the end of any good mystery field, it's like, oh, it'll make sense. Anyway, UniLiever have written to us, which I think is astounding. I answered the client. I'm a very formal edd ahead. Doubt this will be an admission of guilt.

You assume what do they do best? Cover up. Yep. A Hoi Hay machine, nice to leave you the official greeting of the show. Long time, listen, a first time email about a writing to you from Rexona's mother ship, Uni-Leaver HQ in London. Must be nice. It's pretty nice.

Probably in the pickle. Yeah. It's not the Kirk. Yeah. None of you were for Rexona, they call it the can. Oh, my God. No, they're a jitter. I'll work you the pickle, I'll grab. A bit of a pickle at the moment.

No, it's good. That's very famous. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, you're the shard. They're the only... I think it's the shard. Alright, take any of the odd on the hop-off bus to us

that Hamish and I are running around London. Ham, the boffins in legal could not have put it better than your lawyer did last week, so they've obviously responded very quickly. It's taken a lot of get to us. We got you. If Hamish spent more time focusing on the legalese for Andy Bohamish and less time at the altar of Simpeter out, you may have had more chance in the smell's court. But we've got nothing to answer.

Oh, so this is, I mean, when we got this from our lawyer, we knew it was going to be tough. We hoped that they'd be scared and put something forward. They said, but we've been reviewing the claims and have been musing over our options. Rexon recognizes that it played it fast and loose with the scent of coconut cleanse. Pretty sure that. And the scientists worked highly on Rexonous Labs

have suggested that there may be a slight similarity between coconut cleanse and Andy by Hamish. So, magnamously, we're gonna say that your fragrance is a direct ripoff of coconut cleanse. Okay, well, okay. Okay, that's the cover-up begins. The cover-up begins. Here we go.

Now they begin spraying and spraying and spraying and finally re-change history. But he said, in the spirit of the castle, and the lawyer, the great Dennis De Nudo, it might just have the vibe of it. They did win. I mean, Dennis De Nudo went to the high court, I think they won on the vibe.

Yes. So, he said, looking forward to chatting further. And thanks, and so on and off. Now, I don't really want to chat for any further. I feel like we're out of our league here. It's nice to get an admission. I suppose that's the best we could have hoped for. And it's beautiful to sort of see them in their natural form

before the cover-up begins in earnest. I use a Rexola sport roll-on. Is that a ripoff of Rexola? No, it's it's it's a Rexola. No Rexola. Sorry, that was all I was saying. Well, one day you'll get Rexola, it must be nice, but it's for the moment he's Rexola. Rexola, a Rexola. Yes, sport. Yeah. Oh, I'm saying sport. I use sport too. My body's through day to day. I actually, I have a roll on in my backpack for airport situations, but I have a spray at

home. Okay, that's interesting that we both use rexana. What I'm saying is. I use the black and white. Do you know the words? Why do you use the safe for t-shirts? I use a nivia roll on. Right.

Well, what I was suggesting is guys, if you read between the lines, this could all go away. Oh, he's not Jack would you instead of getting, would you switch for a free deodorant like a slab? And for the safety of the show and the free deodorant, I would switch the floor to Emma. It seems like we boys are free. Ando, this is why we love our listeners and this is almost exactly a perfect reason where we have the 50-50 email distribution systems set up. You send an email to the show. You put it in the slot, you put it in the slot,

fire it through the slot, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes of an email. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? What are those fun water slides where you get in the top? Yep, you just don't see that.

The email doesn't know either. Yeah, no, it doesn't. It knows it's in for a trade, but it's washing through the internet. Where am I going? Where am I going? Oh, here we go. Here's my destination. My journey's over.

No, it's not. You still have to hit the fence divider, which randomly decides if it lands in my paddock or Andy's paddock, yes, as we come through and harvest the emails. This landed on my side of the fence, and it relates to an older episode. Oh, I love these people. People remember our show far better than we do. Yeah, yeah. And the great thing about relaying to the other episode is it's sort of the opposite of Peter out because it's these are Peter ints where people can't bring stuff back to our attention. This isn't so much of a thing that we've let Peter out

but it's something slipped by and no one noticed it. It brings up, this is from Josh and he says, look, huge discovery in episode 47. Okay. And again, I would like to add to this list. This is the beauty of having podcast listeners versus say the dirty old days of radio. Yeah.

We just, you know, you're just on a cast area. Yeah. There's never even no names, really. Even though we kept saying it at them all the time, we're driving home. People are like kept saying it at them all the time. We're driving at home. People like whatever mate. Yes. I'm only here quickly.

But I'm podcasting you listen in high fidelity. It's very personal. It is. You're off everything. So Josh has noticed this. He goes, I'll keep it short. If you listen from one minute 20 onwards in episode 47, something has heard. I have found that audio.

I'd like to bring it. I'm not going to lead the witness in any way, but let's just have a listen to that area that he's interested in. What is that? What is that? What is that? The song's sleeve haven't had one for a year. I don't think.

What did he hear? Is there a fart? Someone let Fluffy off the chain. What's there a two? Let's hear it again. What is that? What is that? The song's sleeve haven the chin was there a tooth. Let's hear it again What is now the song sleeve haven't had one for a year. I don't think no The reason I think something is you cannot Be speaking you can't you can't you can speak apart. You can absolutely speak about made of course you can I mean what and

Jack you find it fascinating that the very first thing and I I was happy for me, but I was I tender if I I'll suppose I was in conversation like I know I suddenly went like that first quickly, that little breath. I think that, if we heard her. We would be like, oh, no, and you can wait till we turn the mics off. I do see what it is. You think it is me?

Well, now I do. I had no idea who thought about it, who was the culprit. But the fact that you came in so fast, I think it joked you memory and you remember doing that part. And you were now shocked. No, no, let's have it on Listen J. What is now the song sleeve? Haven't had one for years.

I don't think. No. Look, if you, I would be the, say if this is a police investigation, police would be coming after me first, because I've also got the bell with the mic that points downwards to the bell, to ward for your mind.

I'm more mic than I thought. I don't think my farts would be at risk of even getting recorded unless they were very, very loud. Do a fart down, see. Okay. I'm trying to do an enormous fart, ready? Oh, God, did you hear that? We didn't okay I'm trying to do an enormous fight ready oh god did you hear that we didn't I mean the clear that was huge that was huge it

rumbled the backflat in the room rumbled the boards we have behind us no it cracks the monitor so you didn't hear it. I just want to give some more listen. I guess I'm just, I just want to see if it's Jack. What is now the song sleeve? Haven't had one for a year, I don't think. No. No. It's Jack, isn't it?

Yeah, this Jack. Very rare to be big, because I told you I only part twice a week. Yeah, that's true. So if you caught that on air, that's a base. Actually, I don't think it's jacket all because you, I don't think we've ever heard Jack Fart. You have it. Yeah. Yeah. The airy really. I remember, didn't we start a campaign to see if we could hear it? To hear me fart. You were not interested because you, your

partners never heard you fart, has she? She probably has by now. Seven years. By now, she's heard one of the rare ones. There's a lot. He had a long run where she didn't have a phone and I never had a phone. It's a strange thing. It is a strange thing. I mean, I don't want to bring, you know, the agenda to divide into two, but especially for a guy like, to not, for a guy to not fart is, it's one of our key attributes has got to be that we love to fart. But maybe your body's just so in sync is what you're putting in and saying because I will say it probably increased slightly

when I first started bulking and eating so much peanut butter and protein powder. So maybe that was forming more gas. Can I ask you a question, Jack? Yes. Do you love to fart? I don't. No. I don't. I don't love it. And so I don't know if you're not doing it. Do you love to fart? Yeah, I would. I mean, I wouldn't. It's a set of five minutes.

You should do it in the middle of a song's loop. Right. No, but you might. But you might also say you do love songs, so your brain might have short-circuited going, oh, we're doing other things we love. If before, for five that I remember the day, I remember the day. So, let's remember when Andy did 10 things

you loved as one, that one. Again, if we went back to a police investigation, they would have been, obviously with the microphone on this side for me, I would have been a chief suspect, but Jack, the person who farts, the person who's, we've heard the most farts from out of the three of us.

Yes, we would well and truly be a hamish, the producing team did not. The man who's in touch with these passions. So you would also be a prime suspect also because you were in the room. Yeah, you're doing it. Yeah. That's the only part of it like that. Was there a second father on the grass? You know, there's someone hidden in here. And we wandered in and did it. No wonder.

It's like hidden under the desk door. Oh, it's always been here. No, but he's not about. Well, it's a bit of a guy. I'm saying, oh, Pete, what are you doing here? We thought you lived here a year ago. No, I think, I think it probably was you, wasn't it, Ando? Just because you were doing other things you loved.

No, I think, let's give us one more listen. All right, and then I've got the slow-mo as well, if that helps. One more fast mode. What is now the song's sleeve? Haven't had one for a year, I don't think. No. And then slow-mo.

But for a year, I don't think... Pfft! I actually don't think any would be talking like that and fighting at the same time. I think he would be. I think he thought he was going to get away with it because he did it while he was farting. He did, he was talking while he was farting. He actually did elongate the word think.

Listen to this. Listen to the slow-mo. He's erotic, think. Like he was trying to cover something. He's trying now, yeah. He added two more eyes into the word mo. He's like, he's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something.

He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He added two more eyes into the word think.

He added two more eyes into the word think. Just to go, let's get it all out of the way while I'm saying that word. This one's extra slow. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something.

He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. He's trying to come to something. It's gone all day. Yeah, you're so right. That's definitely, that's like a image. Let's play one of very fast. See if it goes back to Sammy like Andy. Oh, the case remains open. Ando, ready to have you hat spun around fast. steam come out your ears. Here we go.

Everything is neat and practical, because that's the way he likes it. But what if it wasn't? Upset Andy. Can I launch my own one just quickly? What have you been doing? When I got back from our overseas break, my protest, sorry,

for four breaks, we don't need them. My computer would not go back to Australian time. Oh, I've found that as well. Let's do the math. No. Don't look at your wrist. The amount of time I restarted the thing. Like, I couldn't do anything.

This is what I would do to you if I hacked you. I wouldn't steal your money. I would just do stuff like change your eye calorie. I'd fiddle with it at times. It would be absolutely a good Chris angel. Yeah, and then eventually, if you, if it was to be a moneymaking experience, you could then just send me an email saying, Hey, I can fix all that for a million.

I'll give you two. I'll give you two. Because this is nice. And it's just a little incentive for any hackers out there. I don't mean this. That's the trauma. Yeah, it's the trauma. I understand that.

A bit of a... To that clock situation, I mean, you have a watch. We know you have two clocks on your ovens at night. You are flush for clocks. There is one that's very special to you downstairs on the golf sim. So you are flush for clocks. But it does throw all the IKL out of whack. Because it thinks you're on a different time zone.

Just make everything an all day appointment. I think, Ethan, Ethan, have you got something to upset, Andy? Yeah, happy birthday, Andy. No need. I should probably start off by saying, this really does my head into, I'm like Andy, I like lots of order.

Yeah, so my mum's indicator on a car was broken and so she took it to the mechanic to get repaired and He only replaced the right indicator and you replaced it with an indicator flashes at twice the speed as the left indicator I hate that so When are you doing left and right? I would hate that so much I'm not even left and right at the same time. I don't know. I would hate that so much. It's a sell car kind of situation

or take a different mechanic. Yeah, if I'm waiting at the intersection for too long, rather than just let it flash at such a rapid speed, I'll just stick my right hand out the window. I'm like a hawk. I'm like a horse and cart times. I remember from doing the road test that that's still legal. Yeah, if you blinkers not working, would you be wrong, man?

I'm going to say it isn't because it's not working. That's the working one. My favorite preference. Ethan, yeah, that would absolutely, she'll be the taste. That's it. So thank you, buddy. I'm Beth. Beth, a hoi, Beth.

A hoi, how are you guys going? Very you, buddy. Beth, a hoi, Beth. A hoi, how are you guys going? Very good, mate. What have you got, Ferando? So quite often at work, I do a bit of eliminating. So I don't know if you guys have eliminated before, but you do. I had a go at at once.

It seemed fairly time consuming. Yeah, so because I'm fast and loose, I just don't bother lining up the paper with the slip So when it comes out the other end when it's fully laminated I just cut off a bit of the paper that sticks out and then we're good to go But hang on you There's there's not it's not sealed No, it just we were talking you take it underwater That's mostly sealed

You just cut it off and then it's all good. It's not all good, because it's not sealed. But who cares? It's only a small amount. That's not sealed. Most of it's sealed. It's going to be OK. No important information.

It's fine. It's not fine for me. It's a very, very hot, I'll just be able to upstate. When are you taking a laminated piece of work underwater? It doesn't really matter. It's just to give it a bit of longevity. But God's sake, we've got 99% of it done. I mean, I think at first Beth, I thought Andy thought you were just going to say you weren't lining it up properly.

And as always, face change when he realized, not just not square. There's a piece hanging out. Not for me. Back your Beth, get rid of it. No, thank you. Benjamin, Benjamin,, you bit of gerry d'avis. No, thank you. Benjamin, Benjamin, you've got a whole lot of set ando. A whole night. Yes, well, look, you know how jam jars can sometimes be

a little bit difficult to open. Most people would probably try and find someone strong to give it a go or find a tea towel. What my wife does is to release the pressure and make it easier to open. She gets a sharp knife and stabs the top of the lid. I tell you what, it actually works. The annoying thing is your jam goes off after that. Exactly. Well, because she continues to use the lid like normal, you know, turning a blind eye to the fact that there's a Massive hole in it. Most of the year won't get it. Let's be honest

Live meant to stop the air. It's like, it's a stop air flow. Okay, and so so you haven't completely boarded up the door. You've just got a bouncer. Most of the air still won't give him Ben, can I recommend to your partner, just using the knife, just a tap on the side of the lid. That'll normally break the seal. I think I can we keep her away from knives. I think, you know, divorce. The thing is, you know what you're getting it. Sorry, I'm sorry.

I'm going to leave the pressure. And he's got a solution. Thank you, Beth. Ellie has got something to upset Andy. So far three from three. Absolutely. To hot away. Awayways.

Away to yell. So recently we were going away for the weekend. And it got to like the Friday afternoon after work. And I still hadn't packed yet. and I just like couldn't be bothered so I wanted to laundry and noticed a load of washing just come out of the dry so I just put that basket straight in the car and hope for the best. Yeah that's an old scheme isn't this isn't this isn't this is is a peculiarity. So you go off on holidays with a basket of washing. I don't, I'm kind of fine with this here. I think the thing is though, yeah, this is crossed

from, I think without again, you know, one thing we hate doing is stereotyping, but I think for like my wife would not be able to deal with that. But guys when they go on holidays, like, doesn't matter at all. Doesn't really matter. When we heard anything. The only problem was I didn't factor into the equation

that, because I am married, a lot of this stuff ended up being my husband's dad. Okay, yeah, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't, I'm not saying I would do it. I wouldn't want to do it, but I'm just saying it to me. I mean, and also if you said you'd grab the dirty laundry, that would really bother me. But to me, packing for overseas,

I really, or wherever you're going, I just don't really care for it too much. Whenever there's been luggage lost, you know, you get to do, like a bag's been, hasn't made it on board. The amount that I pleaded, it's Bix and not mine. And that it's sorry, that it's mine that's lost and not Bix. No, I think that's, because we don't care.

I was talking, I'm with the San Periborch, what's the whole other? It. No, I think it's because we don't care. I'm with the same pair of boards, what's the holiday? It's exactly like that. Okay, good luck. Thank you, though, Ellie. Tabitha, I feel like we can round this out to score another goal here for the you know, is a defender. Oh, boy, boy, boy. So I have two parts to mind.

On my work laptop, I don't save any files into designated folders. So I have about 4,000 documents just sitting in my download. So when I need to find something, I just use various search terms until I can find that document. So the system works. Do you know, Tabitha, that my downloads folder is empty. What a maniac, I think I'm in the cereal killer. What do you mean it's empty? It's placed somewhere it's used and then deleted. That's where everything lives in mind. Yeah, look at all these extra work you're creating for yourself, and go in the folder, move it out, delete.

Whereas me and Tabitha were like, yeah, we know where it is. It's in the downwards folder. That's the bucket where it lives. Did you say there was another aspect to this Tabitha? So yes, to make that worse, I often won't rename my new Word Docs when they auto say, so I'm currently about to start working on documents 87. And if you say you had to get something, say someone was like, how we need those figures from June, does your brain go, I think that was about documents 70? And you go back and find.

Yeah, or for, or for. No, not really. And actually the smartness here is utilizing the search function. And that has got a lot better. Like computers these days, the search is very good. I don't know if it's AI or machine learning or whatever it is, but search function. And that has got a lot better. Like computers these days, the search is very good. I don't know if it's AI or machine learning or whatever it is, but gives me hope. I'll use the search, is the pancake parlour.

I couldn't believe you're in Jack's love for it. I adore it. We're back and I have a plan to go back but purely based on the double endorsement from the whole year. Get the farmers breakfast, you might be upset. Actually, go go to it. I don't think I've ever been to the pub. Maybe when I was five or six.

Interesting. Well, I mean, if you like parlors and you like pancakes, there's no better place to be. Okay. We would, it's come up a few times, just a quick refresher here for people that might not have been falling at as closely as we have.

A, yes, Jack and I love the pancake parlour. It does seem to be predominantly a Victorian-based pancake franchise. Yes. I then sent Jack a photo going of pancakes on the rocks, which is in the rocks in Sydney. And it's exactly the same font as the pancake parlour. And Jack wrote about going, yeah, between, apart from those two pancakes doors and western bars, saloon bars, two pancakes doors and western bars, saloon bars. No one else is really using that font. It really is saloon font.

Okay. We then diverge from a moment during the Pancake Pala pancakes on the rocks question to address the fact that you could get the make at home Pancake Pala mix. Jack's mum probably didn't grease the pan. She says they're very sticky. The mixture is very sticky.

Too hard to flip. She, yeah, I think after I think after the investigation, most people present would have agreed with it, did seem that during the, we're telling of the story, you'll post realized that she might have had another button. I think you're putting words in them. Another button on the knife that didn't make it all the way to the pan. Yeah, and she thought it was butter, but it was another substance.

Yes. So unlucky for Jill. Many instances of people having no issues with the stickiness of the pancake power mix post that. Anyway, I thought that was dead and bad. We've sort of covered everything that was doing the pancake parlour. The question remained, isn't this interesting?

There's a pancakes on the rocks, same font, pancake parlour. Someone's contacted the show and it's taken a little while they might be behind in the podcast. Sometimes this happens. You know when the name Shane Squirrelsson comes up, but fact that they're probably not giving, they're not giving their full name means they've got intel, they don't want it to be traced back to them.

Great, great. Because recently I've listened to the episode where you mentioned pancake parlour versus pancakes on the rocks. Be prepared to hear the biggest pancake scandal in the country. This could be developed into a mini-series. Well, entitled pancake wars. That's you, Jack. Sheikles. That's you Jack. and you'd had a good first year with lots of shows. And then you were struggling for that, you know, here you get to that second year of running a podcast network going,

God, I want to be grateful you can find us to murder or something, even just a missing car. But you could spin into something. You'd go for this. We are not struggling. No, we're fine. Thankfully, so we can do it as a micro series. But if times were dry, this would be a six-parter.

OK. So Shane Scrooelson says, My current boss who was originally from Adelaide previously worked at the Pancake Parle Land Victoria before relocating to City and knows the origins of both these chains. Wow. I thought that was what we wanted. That's not the end of that one.

This is the end of this before we go to the one. This is before we go to the sponsors before we talk about athletic greens. No, no, no, this is you know, with cliffhanger hits. Um, so the pancake wars begins in Adelaide. I don't know if you were. I think you were listening to the rise in fall of my voice and the pauses, but I don't know if you were listening to the rise in fall of my voice and the pauses, but I don't know if you were processing the words. Sorry, yeah. That's the premise. Yeah.

The pancake was, they begin out of the laid, it was named the pancake kitchen in Adelaide. Oh, hang on. So there's a pancake parlour and pancakes on the rocks originally began by the same people. And they were from Adelaide. This is where it starts getting interesting. They started the pancake kitchen. It was opened by two married couples. Oh, okay.

This is the bit that Shane Scorrelson alleges. So I can't vouch. I haven't been able to find anything online that actually backs up this version of events although it's juicy hearsay by Shane Scarrelson, not the views held by the Ham Shandyshow. Yep. In an Abustal Rift, allegedly, the couples perhaps engaged in romantic liaisons with the opposite member of each couple really keep the penkle.

That led to a wife swapping break up of the business. One move to Victoria, they start, one couple move to Victoria, they start with the pancake power. The other move to Sydney and started pancakes on the rocks. And thus the pancake wars begins to check this out. I did something I might never have done on the show.

Read it. A research. Oh wow. You go to the pancake power website. Wow. And I have a, yeah. Research. A research. You go to the pancake pile website. Wow. And I have a... Right? And that's me.

I'm trying to be the whole thing myself. I can fingers. Sweat pouring off me. I push on. Then when I get to the website, it's not just they don't know what you're there for. So they present you on the website, like a lot of websites with a lot of options and you have to keep going. You have to keep digging. We call it in the business. So they present you on the website, like a lot of websites with a lot of options, and you have to keep going. You have to keep digging.

We call it in the business. It's not just on the home page. No, no, no, they can't guess what you're there for. The Pangey Power has a history section, which I think is a bit suspicious, isn't it? Learn about our history. I guess it's not that suspicious, but it seems like they were very keen

to get their version of events out. Okay. Goes back all the way to the 50s going on. We drove across America, we loved the pancakes. We had a dream, it says, in the 60s, we had a dream of opening a pancake store in Melbourne. But we started out in Adelaide. That's true.

Yeah. You can hear it. Dreams have to start small. So we started in Adelaide, then it goes in 1969, financial circumstances meant we had to start in Adelaide yet. But then we finally decided, we finally returned the way we wanted to do it and opened up in Market Lane in Melbourne. And the pancake parlour became, you know,

was formally known because the pancake kitchen was already taken in Melbourne. Right, okay. So they're trying to say here, our dream was to start a pancake store in Melbourne. So we started the pancake kitchen in Adelaide. Then later we moved, we changed the business name and moved it to Melbourne. That was the real dream. That's all that gets mentioned. There's obviously no stories about personal lives. No, just no. This is sort of tried, they sell it in as a bit of a, yeah. Finally, the dream was realized. Then it takes you through a bit of the history, all the different store openings up to

present day, every kind of five or 10 years it gives you a bit of an update online, you know, then this store opened. Then we invented, they had, what they actually had was, they had a pancake cart that went around. I found this interesting because they could take it to parties and stuff. It was a little cart, long before food vans, where they took the pancake parlor mix to parties and I make pancakes with people. And my question to you, Jack, in your moment, particularly is, if they're able to do this mobile...

Wow, it doesn't sound like that idea lasted very long. They're obviously not still doing that. So were they having trouble with parties? Yeah, was it stupid? People were like, oh, right, pancakes is all ripped up because it was too sticky. Yeah. Jury, do you do the incredible slip-in-ess of the me? We found, oh, here it is. Yeah, we found too many pancakes flying off and landing on the grass. So we have to then move to the kitchen where we have a band-aid pancake nets around the stove because we find a, okay, that doesn't

Pancake nets around the stove because we find it okay Good question So then I go over to pancakes on the rocks I wonder if they've got a history great Pancakes on the rocks. I wonder if they've got a history. Great. I wonder if I couldn't stop. You couldn't. Pancakes on the rocks about us. Pancakes on the rocks began as a dream in the 1950s when we traveled across America and dreamed about a bigger pancake store. Shared history. Wow. That's a real wow. We wanted to bring that love of pancakes for Australia. They open now. They sort of speak of the first restaurant in Adelaide in 1965, and then opened around Victoria. The original founders separated, so they do address it.

Yes. With one moving to Sydney and opening pancakes on the rocks. They don't say what the other one did. As a company, we continue to pursue our vision of creating casual dining family restaurants that featured pancakes and had something for everyone on the menu. This is where it gives you the interesting. So they do acknowledge the split. Yes. They don't say what the other person did, but they acknowledge there was a split and that's how pancakes on the rocks ended up in Sydney.

In 1994, this is where it becomes the pancake wars and you did commerce at uni. You understand the importance of having a cutting edge business. You know, brother-in-law runs the roof rack shop. You understand business. Jack, you did work experience at the guitar shop. Now, I know a lot of that time was spent with you at the back folding boxes, folding boxes, but you would have talked to the guys in the guitar shop. And that was a business.

And that was a business. He would have got so the guys in the guitar shop. And that was a business. And that was a business. He would have got some of that business. In 1994, pancakes on the rocks. So this is some, you know, things have been going along here for 20 years. They've, by this stage, pancakes on the rocks would have seen the pancake power booming in Melbourne. Absolutely. Buming.

Because the 80s, the 80s and 90s were the heyday for pancake power. They, we decided pancakes the Rocks to embark on the rebirth by adding pizzas, a new range of salads, crepes, with your authentic pancake. And our now famous beef and pork ribs. So pancakes on the rocks really threw a haymaker by adding a ton of non-pancake food.

Is that smart? That was a huge gamble for pancakes on the rise. This would be two episodes if we're doing a full season. Because to me, it doesn't, to me, my feeling is here for. What am I here for? If you're hiring someone for a job, and you know you need a motor lawn, and he goes, yeah, but I can get you, I can pour water

if you need water. If you, I can clean up the things, you're like, oh, God, he's no good mower. Yeah. If someone says he's lost confidence, he's been, he's been, he's been, he's been, why aren't you confident enough with the pancake? I mean, one of our for everything,

but you started a pancake, you can't run doors plus, which specializes just in front doors and go about our real business. He's letterboxes. No, okay. Well, that's not a real business. It's letter boxes. No. Okay, well that's not a door. That's usually a hatch.

Yeah. Anyway, that was the gamble. And you look back at the pancake pile of history and you go, okay, so what was happening around 1994 for the pancake pile? Nothing. It's one of the deadest zones. They were happy doing what they did. They doubled down.

And I think in fact that period between 1989 and 2004, they mentioned nothing on the pancake parlour website. Because it is foreign. I think deliberately they mentioned nothing to show pancakes on the rocks that they didn't need to do anything. They didn't need to adjust their menu. They were happy with pancakes.

Then the rest of their timeline is simply bragging about more stores opening. Wonderful. I think a great season. A really good season. And this stage. And what I'm so confusing is I'm looking at pancake kitchen in Adelaide still exists and has the saloon font as well. So there's now three separately.

Well, pancake two. Hey, it seems like everything needs to have its own log-on account and password now. Like, it doesn't matter what the business is, whether it's going to be specific to log-on, they want your data. They're hungry for it. Literally, literally ran into it today with grilled. Yeah, start a certain account. It's like, guys, just name. Credit card, phone order. So Zambrero is at the Mexican place?

Yep, I rang them, said, I'm gonna be there in 15 minutes. Can I do this case? And you have to order through the app. So I prefer not to. I'm on the phone, do you write? Now I just want to know, I'm pretty about that. Have to try to set up through the app. My password prefer not to. I'm on the phone, do you write? Now I just want to know, I'm pretty about that. Have to try to set up through the app. My password just wasn't strong enough.

Like whatever I put in, I was like, what level of protection do you need for my burrito? I don't care if people know that I have guacamole on the side. It just didn't require it at all. But he's my point though. If it's, if it's,

why are you getting guacamole on the side? Oh, because Beck just loves it for some extra chips and so on. Okay. You won't put it in the burrito? I don't want it in there as well, but extra cock on the side. That's what I was wondering. You can say extra. Whether it be your bank, your Spotify.

A book bank, I guess. Bank should be strong. Listen, guys, I'm taking care of stuff. What I got in there, if someone else wants it, they want it, look, if I just need 50, I just want to get a 50 bucks. No, my point is often I'd be lost with any of these accounts. If it didn't have a little blue underlined thing at the bottom that said, forgotten password? Yeah, and that's why the only password I care about is your email. Because if that gets done, you're in big, big trouble.

But the rest, yeah, you can just go through the dance. And forget that. Yeah, I'm going to get a 50 bucks. Yeah, I'm going to get a 50 bucks. Thank you. And that's why the only password I care about is your email. Because if that gets done, you're in big, big trouble. But the rest, yeah, you can just go through, you can go through the dance, the forgotten it. If they took away the forgotten password, little bit, the world would be mayhem. Anyway, I've often wondered,

I've often wondered, would it be so bad? Because I've got a variation of similar passwords that you use for various things. Like again, if it's low security, it's just like a rubbish password, but the higher security, then you get stronger passwords. But if it's one that's like, you just have to spell out and it's a site you haven't visited for ages,

like you're buying clothes from online, something that you haven't gone to for two years, would it be the, I'm looking at who? It's not the greatest security, but would it be the worst if they went, oh, you're close. If you put in your password, and if my password was like, you know, pants 55, and I put in the law case pants 100,

they go, okay, look, you're on the right hand. This is what I'd have to try. What are the numbers do you like to try? Because I think if you have a code that is, you'll get close. This is my point. I think there should be a tick book box that says, when you're starting the account saying, I'd happily let you say, hot warm cold.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're allowed to give me hot warm cold. Hot warm, happy for you to do it. Hot warm cold. That's it. And I hopped into that. So I know that if a hacker goes to my, gets my username, they can also enjoy the hot warm cold game. But I'm not like a free goes at it.

So it's like, you can't, I mean, if they're freezing cold free times, they're not going to get there anyway. But that's the thing, you're basically saying to someone, I put your lock on your house and going, give me one that if you, that's pickable, give me a pickable lock. Because if someone just

strolls up and tries the door, they're not getting it. If someone wants to put a bit of time in and jiggle it, pick it a bit. Yeah, they can get in. Because that's how I'm getting getting it if I forget the key. My other point that I want them to have a little think about is when you reset your password which happens to be all the time because I forget it, I put a new one in and it goes, you can't use your previous password. Why? Why?

Why can't I use my previous password? That just shocks me. It's like you have to go completely different. It's like why? I think now it's less secure. They're challenging you. They're trying to make you a better person. But it's less secure. That password that I was putting down was just in my brain

and that line of thinking. I just have to think of someone something completely different. Brought it on a poster. No, no, something. Oh, you'll put it in a 15 words and a pamphlet. I again, bring a bit of humanness into it and go, go instead of going going the passwords two weeks, just go, you can do better than that. Because you go, hey, you're starting, you're trying to invent a password for grilled and you've gone chips, chips, yum yum.

But as you go, you can do better than that. Pop a number in. Like, you should be at a better level with a grilled. Be allowed to go who cares. Yep. I also have a question, here's the other one, I go, I've got to have a number. Yeah. Let us find, there's 26 options.

The probability of guessing a number is way easier. Yeah. There's only 10. There's 0 to 9. Yes, it should. Should numbers be banned? They're very guessable. A lot to think about.

Oh, yeah. Finally, there's a branch of science. There isn't. Thanks for listening. The Hamish Nandy podcast will return next week. Finally, there's a branch of science. There isn't.