Handsome - Edi Patterson asks about vibey books

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Edi Patterson (The Righteous Gemstones, Knives Out) asks Handsome a question that's all about the vibes! Plus seeing your friends in the nude, teasing some "Wayward" cameos, and Tig losing track of what the hell we're talking about!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Handsome pot. Chatting the friends on the handsome pot. Cheers. Welcome to the handsome pod. I'm Fortune Feemster. I'm Mae Martin. Tignotaro. Whoops. And who is that? And who's that? May, it's me, Tick. It's me, May. Hey. We rehearsed that. We wanted that to happen exactly like it did. It was scripted.

Very much so. You guys, how's everyone doing? Well, we're distracted by your beautiful eyes reflected by your beautiful baby blue shirt. Thank you. Look, when I wear blue, my eyes get bluer. Yeah. They pop. Pop.

Isn't that weird that you just. wear a different color shirt and then your eyes look bluer? Are you guys mesmerized by my beauty? I can't see them. Rather. I can't see them. But I believe they're there. You have glasses on. Why can you see?

You know, I have to, I, I wish I had an answer to this. I told you about how I now have this droopy eye. I have to go to the doctor, see what's going on with me. Can you see how I have this eye? Well, I didn't notice it until you pointed it out. And now I'm like, yeah, you have a droopy eye. Wait, but are you doing it on purpose right now? Oh, my.

Why on earth? Are you really doing this? It's, it's, yeah, that was also scripted. Before the show, I thought, I'm going to have one of my eyes droop. No, if you go back and look at the podcast, you'll see that for the past few months, I have this slight droop in my right eye. And so, um, Eastern. Yes. An Easter egg, a droopy Easter egg. Just like Taylor Swift. So yeah, I have to go see what's going on with my eyes. Why do I have a droopy eye? I love that you are like, oh, I'll go see about it in a couple months. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if it's like the optic nerve or something. You know what? If you Google it, it's anywhere from aging to really scary things. So we're going to check that out.

And also, my eyesight, as I've mentioned in the past few months, has just gone. So time for a new prescription maybe. Definitely think you should go to the odd doctor. I'm going. But the thing is, is like getting, there's a doctor at Cedars, which is where I go to all my appointments. And the ophthalmologist there no longer is there. And then somebody else is like trying to pick up all the slack.

And so it's like months away that you can get an appointment. Who cares? All I'm saying is when I say I can't see, believe me. But I'm on it trying to get it figured out what's going on with my eyesight. Oh, good. Just so you can see Fortune's Baby Blues. Yes. And listen, those of you at home, if you have a YouTube, look at it and ladies and even men that if fortune's your type.

especially men or theydies i mean check out these eyes that i'm hearing are popping right now hopping and locking there's a lot to look out on on youtube right now because you got the droopy eye he got the baby blues you got my pile of garbage in the background of my yeah you still haven't donated anything there is so much going on and yet nothing is going on yet nothing yet nothing yeah and wait fortune you're in a hotel right now I sure am. Are you on tour? Are you filming something?

Tell us what's going on. I'm on tour. Fortune, is it finally time for you to write a note and leave it behind a painting? Yes, it is. It's funny. You should say that, May, because it is time. Time. You just write, roll it up real small.

I don't know what room number I'm in. I bet you can find out pretty easy. How will I ever find that? Oh, wait, I think I remember. It's usually written on the door. I'm in Atlanta for my show. This is at the fourth hotel. It's called the fourth hotel?

Uh-huh. Okay, I thought you'd changed hotels three times. And I guess I can, your guys are going to have to remind me after the pod. This room number is 1308. I mean, do you have a pen nearby? We could do it with you now. It's somewhere over there.

Are you going to make me get up? Fortune can't get up. Sorry. Okay, okay. We'll do it. There's a brown painting in here, a big square brown painting. All right. What do you want me to put on there?

Keep it handsome? Don't desecrate the painting itself. No, on a note. I'm going to put it on a note and put it behind the painting. Yeah, roll it up. Yeah, keep it handsome or... Keep it handsome. A little knock-knock joke.

And if someone finds this, they get a key, right? Let us know. They get a key, and the key will only open one. Oh, yeah, it's a key chain. It's not where you don't actually get a key. And I'm going to fly to their house and deliver it. Whoa, that's expensive. By plane or by?

Why would you do that? No, I think that's what I said last time. But I will say, like, I know it right now you're like, I don't know if I'm going to do this, but the satisfaction you will feel when someone at your show hands you the note that you wrote months prior and left in a hotel. I can't wait to see if someone does this. It was thrilling.

1308 behind the brown painting. In Atlanta. In Atlanta, I think is what we call it. Oh, yeah, that's good. And the people that live here hate when you say that. Because it's not even a very good pun. Hotlanta? That's what they call it?

I mean, well, it's, you know, for different reasons, the people are good looking. And it's hot as balls here in the summer. Fortune Marie. Fortune Marie. Like you know anything about the temperature of that body part. I would imagine two round things stuck underneath another thing, get hot. Yeah. Wow.

Did you go to medical school? Yes. For one day online. Speaking of hot, I had a really kind of eccentric thing. happen. You know, I have my friend Matt and his girlfriend, Leslie, living in my, my backhouse, right? Are they not anymore? No, they still are. And the other day, I was on the phone and I kind of was pacing around and I look outside and I see Leslie is lying. Her body's just on the concrete. Oh. And she's lying there very still. And I thought maybe she's looking for something. And so I,

I don't know, I kind of was in them distracted. So I kept, I kept going about my day. Then later on, I go, were you lying on the concrete? And she goes, yeah, I was having a nap. And she had put her head inside of this cat house that she bought for the stray cat that we feed. And so this classic May friend. Yeah, I can't even really explain how how strange this was. It was like this, it's like this padded little cat house that's sitting on the concrete. And she's lying with her body on the concrete and her head inside this basically microwave in the hot sun. Oh, my God. And she's like, it was so cozy and comfortable.

I don't imagine the concrete would have not been comfortable. Yeah, what is she used to? She can sleep anywhere. This setup is like, finally some breath. Yeah. She's very funny and she can sleep anywhere and it's a real skill. Like I had a dinner party and in between like courses, she goes over to the sofa. Catches 10 minutes of deep sleep.

Comes back to the dinner party. Now, when you have a dinner party, do you cook hot dogs? I order. Oh, you ordered food? I ordered sushi, let's be honest. Oh, there you go. That's a nice dinner party food. Oh, but I would love to see you make sushi.

Oh, my God. What would be fish sticks that are microwaved? Wrapped in rice. making the getting the rice a certain way would be the toughest part yeah what about rolling well I guess there's that wooden roll thing that you yeah everything's fine um maybe we should have a cooking show yeah clearly we are all very skilled in the kitchen so wait we were saying about Atlanta being hot and you're going to leave this note and someone's going to get it people in Atlanta are hot people in Atlanta are hot people in Atlanta are hot Atlanta. And if you're listening and you're a, you know, you're a fan of the pod. You live in Atlanta or nearby. Go for a little staycation with your significant other and book that room.

Yeah. And then just just get that note. Oh my gosh. The hotel is going to be bombarded with phone calls wanting this specific room. And they'll be like, or no one will. Of course they will. Fortune Feimster stayed in that room. Oh, my God.

Well, if no one does, like, I'm going to Atlanta on tour in, you know, March or something. So maybe I'll go come. Oh, May. I'm sorry, we don't promote shows until the end of the episode. Oh, correct. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I slipped that in there.

This is awkward. Yeah, I have a book coming out in like three years. That is not true. How is filming going fortune? Are you having fun? I'm having a blast. The last time we checked in was day one. Yes.

And you guys were like, just give it a minute. It's still delightful. Oh, good. So I'm a couple weeks in. Most of my scenes, well, like 95% of my scenes so far have just been being Will Farrell. That's incredible. He's awesome. We're buds.

And we just have very similar styles. So we get along quite well And he has a team of ladies Who take care of him Like hair, makeup, wardrobe Or like his people that do all his movies Sure And they're amazing and so kind

And so we all just sit around and chat In between scenes and laugh Girl talk Girl And Will is the type who would go girl Of course And so yeah we we just giggle a lot together and then in the scenes we it's so fun to make each other laugh

I mean I have to pinch myself sometimes when I make him laugh so that's happened like you've yeah it's just like the best really that's the dream and uh and we've just established a nice rapport where we'll kind of like mention like jokes to each other for the scene and and that's cool Is it improv or is it scripted? We do it as written and then improvise on the last couple takes. Or we'll like add, you know, the scene's supposed to be like 30 seconds and we'll draw it out to like five minutes. Now, when are we getting a Will Ferrell question?

Because he's pretty easy and approachable for that kind of thing. I know. I mentioned to him a while ago, but I got to follow up on it. I'll get, I'll have him do it at some point. Yeah. He will. He said he would. I just haven't brought it up.

I was going to give it a minute. Keep bringing it up every day. Yeah. Just bring your relationship closer and closer. That's right. Yeah, because some of the people on set listen to the pod, so. Oh, nice. Get them to say in his presence.

Will how come you know. So say how much they love the pod, that's right. I know, I'm always, it's always such a fun treat when you, like, meet people in different capacities. And they're like, and I love handsome. You're like, oh, my God. That's so cool. It's the best. I told you, Jen Aniston's chef is a big handsome favorite.

You did, and we said we wanted to get invited to dinner. Oh, yeah. She's not the one that hands out the invites. She just cooks the food. God dang it. Yeah. Your body is your own. Planned parenthood believes you should have the freedom to make decisions about your health

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I just got a video from Chelsea Handler last night in her bra. But it was meant for somebody else. No. Wait a minute. But to be fair, Chelsea would send me this anyway. Of course she would. I'm going to text her back. I think this was for someone else, but thank you. Wait, she said it last night.

It wasn't a sexual thing. It was to her friend saying, oh, it was like, she was answering someone's question. It was not like a hey baby. It was like she just is always in her bra. Put it on social media, on handsome, on the handsome social media. Well, has she asked a question yet? We got a Chelsea. Yeah, she did, but it was pre-video or no, it was just audio, I think.

Yeah, maybe we need a new video question. We revisit with Chelsea and her bra. Yeah, yeah. That's right. She is not shy when it comes to her titase. Well, I saw her. I would say she's not shy in any department. I mean, I'm saying, I think this was for someone else specifically named Kevin,

L-O-L, thanks for showing me your boobs. I'm having a bit of a situation where I had, and I'm like, do I should I talk about it or is it going to fuel it but I was this is back when I was in Portugal with my family my phone rings and it's a Toronto number that I don't recognize so I pick up I'm like hello and I hear hey and I go hi who's this it's Jennifer and I go oh hi sorry Jennifer who and she goes oh my god is this May Martin I have your number saved as the wrong name in my phone but how are you what and I said oh sorry I don't know who this is I'm Portugal with my family I can't really talk but also I'm like is this a friend of mine like

or maybe someone like a crew member on Wayward who I yeah this number I have some I'm being nice who was it me well then it was Jennifer Anderson no then she she so then she's like anyway she starts chatting away and I go I really got to go so I get off the phone and then like three days ago I'm in the gym my phone rings unknown Toronto number and I I had forgotten about this interaction well it's this woman Jennifer so I pick up I go Hello? She goes, hi. I go, who is this? She goes, oh my God, I've done it again. I must have saved you. And I said, okay, I've been thinking about this. Who, who can you tell me how do we know each other? And she goes from Toronto. Oh, that's very vague. I know. And I said, okay, I'm in the

gym. I got to go. So I hang up. Then she texts me. He goes, sorry about that. But we should make time to, she goes, we might, we should make time to catch up soon. I was about to say, this is a person sounds like they want to talk to you. So then I. on earth. I know. Oh, like you're saying they're faking that they're accidentally? I think so.

I don't think I know this person. Jennifer from Toronto. So I respond. Someone's wanting to talk to May. Yeah. I said again, I go, hey, how do we know each other? And she says, from Toronto. And I said, you have to narrow it down.

That means they don't know you. And her number isn't in your phone? No, it's not. This person got your number from someone. Yes, we are detectives and we have solved the case. But go on. Because then I said, you're going to have to narrow it down. And she goes, lull, um, I Loll meaning L-O-L-L-L. Yeah. And she says, I saw you at, um, sweaty Bettys, which is a bar in Toronto. And then she says, and I think we matched on Raya on a dating app. Yeah. Yeah, but I did not,

I don't, I've looked on my Raya. I don't have a member. Anyway, I'm just, I'm like, should I block it or, I don't know. The answer is yes. Yeah, it's a little odd. I'm not really buying that she keeps accidentally calling me. Yeah, that's weird. And this is all recent? Yeah. Well, first happened when I was in like July and then it happened again recently.

Well, I like a story, so I'm kind of tempted to keep it going. Yeah, just so I can get her to admit that we don't know each other. Well, you know she listens to the podcast. So she's going to hear this. Oh, boy. Well, look, Jennifer. I'm not mad. I'm just like,

how'd you get my number? And why are you not telling the truth? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not mad. I just want some clarity on the mystery. And you never know.

May could be interested. But we need them. I like to be the pursuer, you know. We need more information from you. Have you seen a picture of Jennifer? No. Don't know. I could say, can you send a picture to see if I, no, then I'm engaging.

I don't. Yeah. You've already engaged, by the way. I know. Yeah. Well, you could have saved her number so that you knew it was coming. Yeah, well, now I will. I'll say Jennifer who?

And I'll save it on my phone. And she'll say from Toronto. And we'll go around the town again. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. I like a mystery though. But did she say that y'all did meet at Sweaty Bettys? She said that, but I... No, she said she saw you at Twenty Bettys.

That's, yeah, y'all don't know each other. She might be like a peripheral member of that friend group or something. I don't know. But, yeah, it could be the start of a horror movie for sure. Years ago, I got a call from somebody so chill. Like, hey, TIG, what's up? And I was like, hmm, who is this? Yeah.

It was like an office worker at a club that I had done years ago. And they were like, oh, I'm just rolling through the Rolodex. And I just, I like your comedy. I thought I'd say hi. I was like, weird. What? What? No, no, no, no, no.

Like, I don't want to have an awkward conversation with somebody that I, I don't, I couldn't pick out of a crowd, you know? That is strange. Yeah. And inappropriate. I will say since, since Wayward came out, I am having a lot. of people who I barely know reach out and say that they want to, like we should write a script together. Of course. You're the number one star in the world right now, so you're going to get a lot of attention, you know, people want to, people want to get a whole dead ass. Yeah, they want a

piece of that number one star in the world, May. Take it in. Can I say the one cool thing is I found out yesterday that the show is number one in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Doha, or sorry, Qatar, Kuwait, Lebanon. And it just boggles my mind because, like, you would think from the narrative in the world that pretty much the majority of people are, like, freaked out by trans people. And actually, the majority of them are watching this story and engaged in it, you know? Well, I'm sure they're fascinated, like, with how open and comfortable you are and you're living and a life and portraying a life that is so far from what they know and can even ever know and you're just like unabashedly doing this maybe they think I'm a boy in it and

they don't and they don't know because it's a character you are a boy in it right well I'm a trans boy yeah yeah yeah so maybe they're like they love a thriller and they love a thriller I think it's a good way to sneak in. And they also think there's a chance they're going to see TIG and Fortune in there somewhere. And maybe you will. Maybe you will. Just keep watching. And they're probably like, Fortune

will pop up with an Australian accent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tony, don't worry. I'm going to do my Australian exit. Don't anyone worry. Don't anyone worry. No. No. And maybe we'll see TIG

wandering in the back, eating an apple. or something. During your press, have you asked Tony about my Australian accent and feedback there? I haven't, but I do love that. She thinks it's terrible. Well, she comments, every time there's a clip of it on Instagram, she'll comment saying this is the worst accent I've ever heard. Tony, how dare you say that about me accent?

It was good until me accent. My accent. Tony, I can do an Australian accent, It's easy. Talk about razor blades and Jennifer Lopez. Guys, what I did really... What I love about this show is our lack of concern revisiting the same joke. I just got a message back from Chelsea.

Oh, my God, that is too funny. That's all she wrote. She'd just be showing her boobs out there. Yeah. I saw a thing of her skiing naked, right? Didn't she do that? Oh, yeah. She was topless skiing.

That's really hilarious and must be very cool. As someone who has seen her naked breast on a number of occasions. Many people have. Let me also preface with that. Her boobs are great. Yeah, if you got them flaunt them. And they're naturales. Natural tigobitties.

Fortune? Fortune? I wasn't talking to you take that back who could you have been talking to male bitties Thomas old bitties no tig old bitties I do appreciate a friend who has nice boobs and shares them with the world totally I think that is only fair that if you've been blessed with good naturals um you should share them with people I mean listen I'll be honest I've seen a lot of nakedness of Sarah Silverman. Did she have nice boobs?

Yeah, I've seen a lot of full frontal and stuff. She does talk about Bush a lot. That's hilarious. Grandma's problem area. Yeah, yeah, I've seen a lot of grandma's problem areas. I feel like Sarah's the friend that I've caught the most glimpses of, of full frontal. I recently went to the career. rein spa with my friend Alana Johnston and it was the first time we've been in the full in the nude

together we've been friends for like 18 years or something yeah how is that it was hilarious she we were I couldn't stop laughing it was really I felt like a teenager we were I know I don't think I want to be naked around my friends I know I was going to say is the giggly stuff like did it teeter on like flirty or like we or I don't know what that we was about um yeah definitely not how I flirt, but, um, because, yeah, I would not be naked in front of, um, like I didn't go full frontal in front of Sarah. Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah, it was just. I think the, I mean, I think I was in a towel actually. Oh. She was fully naked. True. In the same room. No, I think it's just, do you get shy about being naked in public? Are you pretty free? Wait, didn't May go full ass? No, I thought. Oh. In wayward.

And wayward? I am shot. These days I love taking my shirt off, but I'm, I would, I'd be shy to go full frontal. And also in, in the Korean spa, because it's a women's spa that I want to continue to frequent. So I, I often wear my towel up around, up around my chest, like a pretty little lady, just because I don't want them to question me. But then in the safety of the steam room, me and Atlanta, laugh. And I think it's just bizarre to be talking to your friend when you're both naked.

Yeah, true. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and she's the funniest person on earth. She's silly. She's very silly. I feel like a lot of straight women that I know don't mind being naked in front of each other. Right. I don't know.

They really love to just fucking let it all hang out. Guys, I have a really great idea. What? I think the three of us should get together and go fully naked and hang. Yes. You two are like so tiny. No, no, no. Listen, listen. We are all three the most handsome. God's children. We are all God's children. God's favorite children. But my God, how that would make me giggle.

What about? I can't. Yes, you are. We're going to head over to Fortune's new house. I need a good six months heads up so I can not eat. Six months. I have an idea. And this might make it less daunting, but it's a, it is we do one of these remote podcasts on Zoom. Naked? Yeah, we're naked. So we're close up. So we're just seeing your, your shoulders fortune. But we all know that we're fully naked underneath.

And what if that camera slips? And suddenly you see my pasties. Your pasty what's? pasty body and my pasties on my nips one of us doesn't have nips

I don't this isn't something I'm trying to put on the list okay I am I really want this on the list oh you never know we haven't gotten

hardly anything on the list done anyway so I guess there's no real harm we haven't had a single thing when you mean hardly any there's not not one We sat on Santa's lap.

Yeah, that is true. We got photos with Santa. We got photos with Santa. We did something, we did a couple, we did a couple things. Push-ups. Push-ups. Was that on the list? Bonnets.

Bonnets, push-ups and sat on Santa's lap. Like, those are things that we were like, we have to do that. Why isn't anybody offering us a show? I know. Or even a special, you know? On the handsom's list. A road trip documentary following us. We should be getting a list.

This is a wildly popular podcast with a wildly long list of things that need to be done. And we can't do them without a budget because we want to do them right. We can't do this for free. Yeah, I need to have, I need to be able to have a meal as I'm doing it. Exactly. Exactly. And now what's on the list? The three of us naked.

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Woo-hoo. Hello, handsome pod. this is Edie Patterson and yes in case you're wondering I'm laying on an orange storage bench in my mom's bedroom anyway

I want to know what's the what's your favorite book that you've read the most recently that you found to be the most vibe in whatever way and you could have read this or listen to it in an audio book vibe

yeah vibey is is what what is that like like uh that you liked it into i think do you think when like dostaski put out crime and punishment people were like this is viby this is bibby first off the bible is very viby very viby um did you guys watch edie play uh yeah judy in the righteous gemstones no i never watched the righteous gemstones oh my god may do yourself a freaking favor. Okay. You start season one.

The Righteous Jim Sons on HBO Max is so funny. I'm writing it down. I haven't seen it, but my friend Kristen, I believe, from my childhood, was over at my house and was going on about this character. So Eadie's character is definitely like the standout. It's a Danny McBride show. So, you know, all this stuff that he does is very. broad very out there

she plays the they're all the kid of a pastor like one of those big southern pastors like the mega church and she's her character you talk about yelling Fortune Marie if you were to listen

to her character you would be yelling Fortune Marie it is so wild the stuff that comes out of her mouth but near the end of the first season she does this monologue at an Outback Steakhouse. That is, I cried tears.

And does she riff it? She's also in the, Edy's also in the writer's room. She's part of the writing staff. So she helps write it, but then I think also riffs on the day. It is the funniest thing I have ever seen, I think, on a TV show. This monologue that she goes into. And this is in a steakhouse? It's in an Outback Steakhouse

And it's just too good She's I've known for years Through the growlings And this character She just freaking nailed I've heard I think a lot

About her from her from Allison Dunbar They're friends right Yeah So if anyone has not ever watched that show I think It's just ended but go to the first season, start from the beginning.

And would you say, did you know about her that she's a voracious reader? I did not know that about her. She plays very crazy, insane characters. And I know that's her stage TV life, but in real life, she's a more chill person. So how do you know she's a voracious reader? Oh, I don't. I guess I just, because the question I thought, these days, if anyone reads at all, I'm like, that's voracious.

Because I know it takes a lot these days to focus. I think Thomas reads a book a week, right, Thomas? And it shows because he's a grounded and informed individual who keeps us on track. Yes, he does. But do you all read or do you do audiobooks these days? I read. I read. Yeah.

Yeah. I've done some audiobooks where I think the person, like Miranda July, I love the way she does her own audiobooks. And, but no, generally I read, but not enough. Yeah, I don't read enough, but I try to have some new, you know, something on my bedside table. So do you have something on my bedside table? I can go grab it. Let's see it, bud. Sorry, I forgot to get it one set.

We have to show our books to prove it, but we can look at the junk in May's room. Okay. that is good looking I see four guitars uh-huh oh here comes me oh here comes me everybody yeah here comes me everyone be cool here comes up oh hey what's going on what did I miss I guess you'll have to listen to the podcast oh boy you should subscribe rate and review so first of all under the sitting on top of the book is this crystal grid that is supposed to channel intuition and things like that. So I brought that to show you guys.

Oh, nice. We like that. Underneath the crystal grid. It's... Whoa. Oh, no. I dropped it. Made it dropped their book.

The book of symbols. So this is like... Whoa, that's a big hand. It's a huge heavy book, and it's like a dictionary of symbology used in art and myth and things like that. And I thought if I keep it back to my... Next to my bed. with the crystals on top, I'm going to be having symbols in my dreams.

So like I'll flip through, tell me when to stop and I'll see a symbol. Stop. Okay, it came up on human body. Oh, we were just talking about that. About human body? Yeah, about being naked together. There's a picture here of Saturn devouring one of his sons by Francisco Goya, which is a very haunting picture.

Well, that is not what I expected with the human body. I know. And that doesn't, that's not really representative. I thought we'd be seeing some puss. Oh, my gosh. Fortune. I don't know. As the podcast gone on, I've got more scandalized.

I'm like matching. I can't believe what I'm hearing these days. It's a natural thing. You're right. No. Yeah. Why my. body positivity sex positive here are you i don't know is that how you would define yourself

these days no body positivity sex positive i'm demure i just like to get you going like we got like there's like feather that's you know what's the feathers um mean so so many of the qualities we associate with birds are distilled in the image of a single feather lightness mobility air winged balance flight and joy there's so many moments of this podcast that i tune out check back in i'm like what the hell are we talking about how did we get here how did we get here nothing we talk about makes sense i got it because my dreams are so like quotidian they're all like having an argument with what did you say about titties i swear to god I'm not, I heard Quotidtis, quotidians.

That's really good. I'm just going to sit this out. I'm just going to listen to the show. I'm just going to listen to the show. I think I got that right. Quotidion is like day to day mundane. Nobody knows or cares what it means. Good time.

Anyway, that's my book at the moment. So quote it tidians. Well, that's a, titty. So that's your recent book. Yeah, I like to dip into it. And how recent? How recent? Like, it's currently next to my bed, but if I'm being honest, I'm not really...

Well, things can be next to your bed and not be recent. You know, I mean, look at the back behind you. I know what I mean? That's been sitting there for months. I think it's been by my bed for a couple weeks and the embarrassing thing is when I think about it. I'm not really reading it. I'm hoping that by putting the crystals on top of it, I'm just absorbing all the

information. That makes sense. That's scientific. Yeah, that checks out, right? Yeah. Well, I am busy. Right. And reading has taken a back seat. I can tell you, I'm on my app right now. So in Los Angeles, if you have a library card, which is very easy to sign up for, they have an app. When did you sign up for a library card? This is so crazy that you have a library card and you never read everyone should have a library card it's if you like any sort of book um is this a commercial i'm a commercial for books i do like to read and when i have time i want to read

but i've been so busy that i can't but there are so many books that you can't on an app uh i don't if every city has this, but L.A. has it. It's called Libby. And you can borrow these books for like 30 days and read them on your like devices. And can you get audio books? Yeah, audio books too. It's fantastic. Okay. So I don't know, like I said, I don't know if every city has that, but I imagine a lot of them do. But just walk me through when you went and got your library card. I think I got the library card on the app. Oh, that ruins everything. I didn't go into the library. Yeah, that's what I was wanting. I wanted to be walked through. Well, my mom goes to the library like all the time and Well, nobody doubts that. Of course, Ginger's at the... I said rents books. She rents books. I've

here to rents to read. She reads like a new book every week. I don't know. She's a regular old Thomas. So I'll tell you what I intended to read. Yeah, what's on the list here that you. Viola Davis is finding me. Yeah, I'd like to read that. I wanted to read that. I started it, but then I did read Brandy Carlisle's book, Broken Horses. That was good. I like biographies.

I really like learning about people. I also have just as I am, Cicely Tyson. I really wanted to read that. So wait, we're just rattling off that you want to eventually get around. Uh-huh. Oh, I was going to read Mating and Kemp. captivity. You told me to read that from Esther. Estere Perrell. Haven't read that yet, though. That's one that is a great audiobook. Oh, I did want to read this. The Secret to Happiness,

Jessica Redland, haven't read it yet, but it's on the list. Okay. So no fiction so far. I feel like that's where we're all going wrong. I like to read about real stuff. I think that's partly because we're all like, we have to be productive all the time. And so we think if I'm going to read, it has to be something that I'm going to learn and maybe I could use that information and see it's not calculated like that for me I'm not like okay I have to learn it's just that it doesn't that doesn't interest me it's kind of like with TV and film I love documentaries right right you know I'm not I'm not like oh I can't be silly with my time here and watch uh whatever show I just I just remember being a teenager and reading a ton because I was reading stories that I was like,

I got to know what happens. And so maybe it would get me back into reading if I was reading more like, yeah. Yeah. What else you got on that list? Yeah, keep going, fortune. And that was a lot of books. That was a lot of books you haven't read. That's a lot of books I haven't read. Oh, I did read our friend Amanda Clutes, live your life. That one was really good. Take, what about you? So you read, I know you've recommended a lot of books to me that I've written down and intend to read. What are you reading and write most recently? I like biographies, autobiographies, and self-help. So I guess it, you know, I do love a story, but I think with books and film or whatever, I do like documentaries. But right now, as I've

discussed. I'm neck deep in the, you know, work life balance for the first time, even though for years in interviews, I talked about how I was finding that and like exercising my live work balance. You were aspirationally talking about it. Yeah, but it's weird when you, I realized that I was like so disconnected from my actual. reality. Yeah. And I was just talking like I was doing it. This is kind of my thing with autobiographies of people because I know enough people who've written autobiographies where you read the book and it seems so neatly tied up. There's an arc. They reach a place of resolution and I'm like, you're just saying that. I see you. Right. Yeah. I think about that a lot, especially when I noticed it in

myself that I wasn't connected to the reality of what I wanted and how I was living my life. So this book, Anxious Nation, I can't remember what the cover of the book said, but like finding balance or something. But when I got into the book, it was much different than what I thought it was going to be. It was about kind of people's addiction with alcohol, food, sex, drugs, cell phones, social media, all of that kind of thing. And that was actually a really fun surprise was that I thought it was one thing. And then it was, I mean, it all kind of ties together. Yeah, that like dopamine self-soothing behavior.

Yeah, finding the balance. I know, like, there's been so many studies about how reading, like holding a written book, like immediately your cortisol levels drop your heart rate drops like it is oh really yeah because you're holding a book uh no you got to read it too oh you got to read i was like i'm going to pick up a book right now oh my god snuggling always everybody's like a fortune is such an avid reader holding books like to my chest spooning them at night it is once you do get into a book and like make it a habit it is really a nice thing that you look forward to yeah yeah and like a little escape i just always kind of forget that that's available to us same well and even if you read for 15 minutes i'm sorry go ahead may

what are you saying i was just wondering about max and finn and if you read to them and yeah and we do something that sounds very like whenever i say it i feel like we sound like just a Christian American family, but we have family reading time at night. And we just do 10 to 15 minutes and Max and Finn come into our room and everybody reads for 10 to 15 minutes right before bedtime. And then you share about what you read. And so we each go around and share. And it, you know, that started because their school encouraged that they, you know, develop a habit of reading regularly, even outside of school. And so I think I've talked about it before, but it's really a part of the day I look forward to. And it is, it's so quick and it's so cute. And I

have to say Finn does half the time fall asleep. He's the reader that I'll look over and he's completely asleep and his book is on his chest but um and they're reading like chapter books now right like they are there's also a lot of like um what are those like manga graphic novel graphic novels yeah yeah um so uh but fin's also very into sports biographies and autobiographies as well as coaches of certain teams But, yeah, it's somewhere in between graphic novels and chapter books. That's fun. Yeah. Yeah, that's a nice family activity.

That's a nice habit to form. It's nice, and it just kind of settles everybody down and everyone quietly. They don't push back. They just quietly read their books and then head off to bed. And it really sets a nice tone for the end of the day. Yeah. Yeah, calms you right down. I like that.

If I had kids, I would implement that. Yeah, it's... You ever read to Biggie? No, I haven't seen them in a minute. Do you know what got me reading books when I was a kid? What? What? Pizza Hut.

Because you guys, I'm motivated by food. We know this. They did a summer thing when I was a kid where if you read a certain amount of books, You could get a free personal pan pizza. I love this. And you were like, I'm on it. I would go to the library with my grandma and get like six books or however many was required.

That is hilarious. And then I would get to go get my free personal pan pizza. And how do they know you read the books? I think it was an honor system. Wow. You could be trusted. And we know this nerd told the truth. I told the truth

And my grandmother I think you had to have like an adult witness Right My grandma was my witness Yeah And I got one of smoking a cigarette Been like where's my pizza How come more

We should people They should do that still That's really I like that a lot I know it's like I feel like people don't think about books enough But you know Dolly Parton

Her big charity Has given Millions and millions of books out It's incredible She is just perfection. Do you remember that feeling of going to a public library with your class or your parents or even your school library and like settling down in a corner with a book that you've just grabbed off a shelf and like you're in your little world and I love it. Yeah, it's snug harbor, man.

Snug Harbor. Yeah. Snug Harbor. Snug Harbor. I love a son. I feel like there was a restaurant in Santa Monica called Snug Harbor. If there isn't, there should be. I feel like I used to go to this diner, snug harbor.

God, I love diners. Yeah, I love you too. I like a diner as well. That's another thing. Books are good for, if you're into like going for dinner by yourself or going to a coffee shop by yourself, it's kind of, you know, just sitting by yourself and scrolling on your phone. But if you take a book and everyone's like, what a genius. You guys ever see people out in the wild just reading?

Not as much as I'd like. Used to be on the subway, everybody had their book, right? You know what I have seen a lot of? What? Is people that seem to curate their little table at like a coffee shop with their book and their coffee and but also they're constantly checking their phone. Yeah, you'll actually see them reading the book. Yeah, they want to be the person that's having coffee and reading.

But they're not. They're like, they're, that you see them switch over to their phone like that. And they probably need to read Anxious Nation. I know. And not to generalize, but it is often straight men who have a book on feminism or something open. Oh, geez. And highlighted the feminine mystique. Trying to lure in someone who wants somebody that reads a book.

Yeah. Meanwhile, they're just on Tinder on their phone. Yeah. Yeah. Like Thomas is showing off all the books in his background. right now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Actually, I make a couple recommendations. Please, please. Where did that voice come from? Who was that? It was Tom. Fortune it was Thomas. Oh, God. Yeah. Our producer. Got it. Okay. Okay. First, Priest Daddy by Patricia Lockwood. It's about a woman whose father is a priest who he loves like

hanging around in his underwear and playing like loud guitar music. May. That's for you. David Sedaris, kind of like painting a portrait of a weird dysfunctional family. It's so funny. Priest Daddy, I wrote it? Yeah, that's great. It's called what? Priest Daddy. Hello.

It's so good. Tony Tula Timothy has a book called Rejection, which is a bunch of short stories that are all about rejection. And also hilarious book. but it really captures like online culture and how that's just like permeating everything and how it's also made us terrified of rejection. And then the last book I'd recommend is called the Vaster Wild by Lauren Groff. It's about a servant girl who escapes Jamestown in 1610 and has to survive in the wilderness. And it's just like if you like a book that's just a total adventure like you can't put it down. It also has one of the most beautiful endings of any book I've ever read. Those are

my three recommendations. Nerd alert. Who would you assign each book to? You get a pizza. Oh, wow. Okay. I would assign. What was the last one? It's called the Vaster Wild by Lauren Groff. Okay. But I would assign that to TIG. I would assign pre-study to Fortune and I would assign rejection to May. Okay. Wait, what was the one that you would? suggest for me? Why do I get the rejection stories? And wait, what was mine? The Vaster Wild by

Lauren Groff. Okay. All right. Well, I am actually flying on an airplane today, so I'll be in an airport, and I'll see in a little bookstore if they've got it. You're going bye-bye today? You could also download the Libby app and get you a library card real quick.

That's true. Check out a book. One of those might be available. I think we should put it on the list where we all three go in and sign up for a library card. Can we go in person to a public library and we need to get a book and we snuggle up? No, we're not going to do it. I wouldn't mind some snugs. You want to snug Harbor with us?

You want to snug Harbor with y'all. Oh my God, we should do a triple spoon. Don't tease me. Well, Thomas reads to us. With our clothes on though. No, no, no. we're all in our braziers Granny panties and braziers

Yeah Bonnets on Bonnets for sure That's something I think we've talked before About like something that your parents Say as a kid that just irrationally makes you angry And my mom would always say brazers

And it would just make me so angry I didn't know I was just like just say bra We're going to need to buy you brass What about a blouse? A blouse was big My mom loves the word blouse Oh, my God.

That's how you know for sure someone is straight. Yeah, they love blouse. I love your blouse. Or like a top. Like, oh, that's a cute top. Yeah. That's so. Like it's a t-shirt.

That top is so cute. Also, she called blush. You call it rouge. Oh, yes, yes. I think that's an age thing, though. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Well, wait, we haven't heard the answer yet.

Should we hear you do that answer? That's right. God, we just love ourselves. Oh, yes. Edy, who? Mine is a book that my niece told me about. My niece Olivia told me about this book, Bunny, by Mona Awad. And it's so vipy.

And I can't believe how Mona Awad captures loneliness and mental illness kind of and the feeling of being on drugs in or drugged or altered in some way. The whole book is kind of like you go into a dream and come out after. It's really, really cool. And I want to know what you guys like that you've encountered lately like that. Bye bye. Bye, bye. So that's what she meant by Vibe.

Yeah. Oh. I thought it was going to be a kid's book when she said niece, but it sounds like a trip. I'm going to, I've written that down. I like that type of book. I like, like, like, like, like. Wait, did you really write it down?

Yeah, I got in my phone notes right here. Oh, okay. Yeah. I got some weird stuff in here. Yeah, I'm good. I bet you do. Yeah. Like what weird books or like just weird stuff?

Just in my notes app. Just like practicing texts to send people or, you know, weird stuff. No, May, you do practice text? Yeah, if I want to send like, yeah. Well, you have to get a certain amount of information out. Well, if it's like a, you know. Oh, emotional. An emotional text.

Oh, okay. I'll write in my notes first. Have you ever practiced a text for me? No, oh, my God. Dearest tiglets. I don't know. Dearest tiglitz. Dearest tiglitz.

Can we push the podcast five minutes? No, I can't send her that. Well, good times. Very good times. Yes. We have new merch online, including a yeah ghost crewneck and a handsome zip-up hoodie. Go to handsomepod.com. We have very good merch.

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