Handsome - Ilana Glazer asks about God

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

The funny *and* deep Ilana Glazer of "Broad City" and "Babes" asks Handsome about a higher power on a hilarious Handsome! Plus Handsome hosts the Oscars, Mae's dance moves, and Tig's "morning fruit" song that will now be stuck in your head for all of eternity. You're welcome!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I'm Fortune and Tig's co-host, May Martin. Woo! Woo-hoo! You guys. Another early morning app for us. I know, I was awoken at 6 a.m. this morning by the agony of a Charlie horse in my calf. Oh, those are a good time.

I haven't had one in so long. You lucky dog. It was, I was just in bed like. It is the weirdest problem to get. And I was telling Stephanie once that I would love to see somebody get a Charlie horse when they're going up to accept an Oscar. Oh my God, just holding their calf.

Yeah, or walking down the aisle to get married. And they're like, oh no, get me. Yeah. That's what I would like to sing. I just likenarly, I just like kind of stretched, I guess, and then it was like, vroom. Isn't it supposed to be low potassium? Is it? Yeah, dehydration.

Yeah, yeah. So it feels like your muscles just turns to concrete for a second. It's so weird. Yeah, like. Yeah. I don't like that kind of horse. So were you screaming? No, because I was trying not to wake Jax up. So I was just like, just silently like holding myself.

Oh God. Braced up like, uh. Whimpering in silence. Or what if you were having a one night stand? Yeah. God, I'm so out of that loop. a one night stand. Stand. Yeah. God, I'm so out of that loop. Like what is it one night, yeah, you're like lying in bed with somebody and then you're

just like, I love thinking of an awkward Charlie Horace moment. It sucks. And then, and then it like, I finally got it to go down and then I just laid there and then kind of moved my leg and it came back and I was like, oh no, that's the worst. I just picture it with like metal teeth just clamping on to you. Yeah. That's the worst. So then did you get back to sleep after that? Yeah, I passed out and when I I woke up, I was limping.

Oh, man. Wow, it really took you down. It took me down. I'm going to have to eat more edible arrangements. Edible arrangements? Are you already eating a good amount? Wait, what's an edible arrangement? It's the fruit.

People send people fruit baskets that are dipped in chocolate. Oh. Well, and also aren't they in a... like a bouquet? Like a bouquet of flowers? I know what you mean. It's supposed to look like a bouquet of flowers, but it's fruit.

That's how you eat fruit is you order... I'm kidding. I'm kidding too. I'm going along with your bit. I'm fortunate. Good Lord. I did have a little, have you ever seen those little baby apples?

They're like this big. Yeah. I ate one of those last night and I was like, my fruit for the day. Did I tell you the song I wrote for Max and Finn? No. And they sing it in the morning. Don't forget to have your morning fruit, your morning fruit.

I feel like there might be a little more to the song. Yeah, there's gotta be more. My dad used to sing every morning and he'd go, "'I'm a banana, I'm a banana.'" And then I'd get kind of anxious because I knew this part was coming. "'I'm a banana, banana, banana.'" And then he'd like freeze on banana

and he'd like stop moving in the kitchen like frozen. And I'd have to go up to him and then go- Like a frozen banana. Like a frozen banana, yeah, it was exciting. And he made this up? I think this was an original of his, yeah, and he'd kind of hold the bananas and make them his ears. Now, do you know, I don't know what accent I'm singing.

Marn and frut. You're marn and frut. That's Scottish, yeah, that's like. Is it good? Yeah, it's like a good... It sounds like Shrek. Marnon Frid. Yeah. Well, when I am talking to Stephanie in the Marnons,

I can hear Max and Finn in the background singing that they're having... They're Marnon Frid. They're Marnon Frid. I'll have to find out what the rest of the words are of my original tune. Please. Yeah, I like how you're saying I have to find out what the rest of the words are of my original tune. Please. Yeah.

I like how you're saying I have to find out. Like you got to ask someone else. I do. I have to ask Stephanie and Max and Finn because I wrote the song, I got it in everyone's head and then I left for Toronto. And forgot the song. That's what I was doing was I was telling them, don't forget to eat your morning fruit when I'm gone. Like, I tried to like come up with a little catchy tune

and then you know what, it worked. That's how I think of my dad in my childhood was singing in the morning and making breakfast. Really, yeah, me too. That was like a big part of, would he, was he the one that would take you to school and stuff? They would switch off. Sometimes That was like a big part of, would he, was he the one that would take you to school and stuff? They would switch off. Sometimes it was him. Sometimes my grandmother,

sometimes my mom, it took a village, but they divorced when I was 12. So my memories are very like sporadic, but I just remember some singing when he woke us up and then making scrambled eggs. I remember that my dad used to pronounce Titanic titanic, just to make me laugh. And I thought that was the funniest joke I had ever heard. I was like eight years old and I was like,

like it blew my mind. Cause I was like, that's not how you say it. And he was like, I know I'm joking. He'd say, the titanic. I don't know why we were talking about Titanic all the time. I don't know. I saw that musical Titanic. Oh yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that? I don't know if it's still going or not, but it was in New York and it was a play about the Titanic with Celine Dion as the narrator. Oh. And she called the Titanic the Titanic. Guys, I saw Sherri Lee Ralph last night.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. A friend of the pot. Well, I didn't speak to her, but I saw her at the out 100 awards or. Oh, OK. Yeah. She was getting like ally of the year and she made a rousing speech that was so she's like an orator. Like I wanted to elect her president. And then she said, she did this beautiful speech

and I really liked she ended the speech by going, I am Sherrilee Ralph, goodnight. She was great. And so wait, were you nominated or did you win something or what was going on? No, I just was invited. Just an invitation. Just an invitation, yeah.

Anyway, I really like the idea of ending a speech, I am a Martin. Good night. I am a Martin. Or ending a standup set like that. But a lot of comedians will say, I have been and then say their name and then leave stage, which I've never done that. I've never done that either. Actually, you know what I used to always end my sets with when I first started the first few years?

I'd say, anyway, my name's Tig, and then I'd walk off stage. Anyway. Yeah, anyway, my name's Tig, whatever that was. Anyway, my name's Tig, and then I'd wander off the stage. And I had this idea where I'd love to grab just show after show ending of me saying, anyway, my name's Tig, anyway, my name's Tig. Just back to back, a little montage of it all.

Cause it took me a while to realize that I was saying that. And I think I was saying it even at a point where people were buying tickets to see me. Like it didn't make sense for me to be like, anyway, my name is Tig. That's funny. I've been, is funny to me. Well, I've been blah, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, yeah. Like it's a past tense thing. I'm no longer. Yes, I'm moving on now. I like when Cheryl Lee wins awards because her award acceptance speeches are so phenomenal. It was like it was a big crowded room. It wasn't like a sit down thing. Everybody was kind of and so nobody could hold the crowd's attention. This is also like a bunch of drunk gay people.

It's like herding cats. But when Cheryl Lee Ralph, everyone went silent and was like listening. And then a lot of fans of the pod came up to me because they were serving nuggets at the event. They were serving chicken nuggets. What is nuggets? Oh, oh, chicken nugget.

I see. Yeah. That's fun. And they were like, we're big fans of the pod, but you're not one of our 100 top gays. No, yeah, you're not one of the 100. But people kept coming up to me and being like, oh, you must be excited. And I was like, oh, should I? And they were like, the nuggets.

And I was like, what? And then I realized everyone knew this about me, that I love bread and chicken, from talking about it on the pod. That's so funny. Yeah. Sometimes you forget what you share. Oh my God. I forgot you even shared.

How does that person know that about me? Yeah. I know, it's so confusing. But it also happens to me right when I get off stage, which I think we've talked about how. Right when you get off. Right when I get off, people will be like, oh my God, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I'm like, what? Yeah. You said that on stage, did I? No clue. Your brain kind of goes into a different dimension. Yeah, yeah. May, are you back doing, you're back doing standup, yeah? Yeah, I'm loving doing improv right now,

but I need to start doing more sets. Like I do a couple a month at Largo, but I need to push myself, I think, and figure out what I'm, yeah, cause what have I got, nothing really. I've got like some stuff about how I feel like I have the memory of holding a live chicken, but I don't think I've ever held a live chicken.

You know what I mean? It's all a little weird and existential. And then I got the bear story, of course, but. Yeah. You know, and some childhood. Maybe you've seen somebody hold a live chicken. I must've, but it's like, I know the feeling of like the greasy feathers, the heart pounding,

the scratchy little feet. I can feel it, but I don't think I've ever held a live chicken. So maybe in a past life. Well, the scratchy little feet, I can feel it, but I don't think I've ever held a live chicken. So maybe in a past life. Well, you are a little cowboy, so you might've had a ranch. Wait a second, yeah, you're right. Yeah, past life rancher.

A ranch owner. Yeah. Ranch hand. I said at work, when I was filming, I was like, I'd like to be in a Western, and then my co-star started laughing. And I said, why are you laughing? And she said, no, you're not gonna be in a Western.

And then she said, you'd get your leg caught in a last suit and get dragged behind the horse. I was like, oh, come on. She didn't know you were a little cowboy. Who said this to you? My co-star in the show I just filmed. But I thought, all right, yeah. And Tig, you're working out a bunch of material, right? I have been working on material, but I've kind of taken

a beat. I just keep having this feeling of like, I think I want to be saying something. You know, I don't know. I know. Right. But then like sometimes you got to just talk about mountain goats, but then for sure. Yeah. But you feel this nagging about, yeah, I'm feeling a nagging thing of, um, that's exciting as a fan.

Cause I'm like, oh, if you got a nagging thing, like someone's going to come up and that's juicy. We'll see. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I might just want to do an hour of talking about mountain goats. But I have started writing something here in Toronto. Is it about us? It's about me and you. Oh my God. Oh my God. Fortune has nothing to do with it. It's just about me and you. Oh my God. Oh my God. Fortune has nothing to do with it. It's just about me and you.

And it's, wow, just deconstructing every new one. Cowboy. Little cowboys. Yeah, yeah. That's exciting. Yeah. May, you don't, I don't know if you know this, but Tig and I on a pretty little episode, both revealed how much we want to learn how to tap dance.

I'm sorry. What? Seriously? Yeah. And then the three of us will host the Oscars. OK, I'm going to say something crazy, but I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility if the three of us really focus our manifestation powers and we visualize us hosting the Oscars and tap dancing.

Yeah. I think it could happen. I have bad news. I have bad news. I don't think it's going to happen, but we still have to plow forward and learn to tap. Do you know how to tap dance, May? Imagine if I was like, yeah, of course. No, I don't know how to move my body at all really.

It's fused. I feel like my joints are fused. You're not a dancer. No, but the other day I went on YouTube and searched John Travolta's Saturday Night Fever tutorial. Dance tutorial. Oh, what? Yeah, and I thought I'm gonna learn it

and bust it out when you least expect it. Well, can you show us what you've kind of learned already? Hit thrust. I wanna polish it. Please? Well, it's just the way his hips move. Okay. Magic May. Well, magic may.

It's a lot of like, it's like a lot of this. Yeah. Oh my. Wow. Okay. Marie. That's going to get us the Oscars. Yeah.

So, Fortune and I will be tap dancing and you'll be doing, how is it that we're talking so much about John Travolta on this podcast? I don't know. Yeah, so Fortune and I will be tap dancing and you'll be doing, how is it that we're talking so much about John Travolta on this podcast? I don't know. But yes, you'll be gyrating Travolta. We did say in our fantasy scenario that Tig and I would be tap dancing and you would be playing the guitar maybe.

Oh, interesting. No, I think May was doing, is like actually doing a monologue. Oh, saying stuff Cause you don't think of- No, I think May was doing, is like actually doing a monologue. Oh, saying stuff. And we're tapping around you. We're just tapping our faces off. Okay, so- So get ready for this world.

Mm-hmm. Is this gonna be like a routine, like in singing in the rain or something, like where, you know, one of you will like point to one, you know, and then someone does a bit, and then you point, like where one of you will like point to one, and then someone does a bit, and then you point, like you trade back and forth. Yes.

I think it depends on how good we are at our lessons. Okay. Well, and we did say we would tell the instructor, this is for the Oscars, even though the Oscars hasn't tapped us. For tapping. For tapping. wasn't tapped us. For tapping.

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when we go learn to tap dance, we're gonna be like, and this is for the Oscars. Yes, yeah. And so they will just assume we got the gig, but we are just lun yeah, maybe we just, lunatics in Hollywood. Yeah. And they'll say, when does it air? And we're like, you know, yeah, like spring. What if it just gets back to the Oscar? Like we just start telling our peers, oh yeah, you know, and handsome pots hosting the Oscars this year. And then we,

and it just like becomes reality because. Okay. Well, let's get it started. just like becomes reality. Okay, well let's get it started. Let's get it started, tap dancing. I have some really exciting news. Uh-oh, what? The handsome pod is hosting the Oscars. Oh my God. What?

No way. Yes, spread the word. How many of you started my tap dancing lessons? Okay, we gotta get to it. And we're gonna open with a big number? A la Billy Crystal days. That's what we would do, right? Billy Crystal was the best.

Top hats, canes. Yeah, would we like make jokes about the people in the crowd the way they always do? You have to make a couple. Yeah, we go, well, Paul Meskel's here. Hope he's eating his morning fruit. Morning fruit. Things that are just inside jokes from the podcast.

We're all like, yeah, ghost. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, ghost. Is everybody sitting a pineapple apart? Yeah, just crickets in the audience. Oh my God. I love this plan for us. I am down for it.

Me too. I do think that I should learn that Saturday Night Fever thing though. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't you? I don't know how you've gotten this far without it, honestly. I know. But you did, how much time did you devote to this tutorial on YouTube? Oh, I'm really just at the very beginning, but I did learn the Beyonce, Texas Hold'em

lot like, like country dance. I learned that in its entirety. Can we see that? We have time. May, you can't drop that and then not show us a little something. Okay. Here we go. This ain't Texas.

Ain't no Hold'em. Okay, Fortune's gonna sing. Okay. Okay. This ain't Texas. Ain't no hold up. Hey, Fortune's going to sing. Okay. Okay. Let me see if I remember. Okay. Start from the beginning. I don't know the words.

I gotta see if I remember. This ain't Texas. Woo. Oh, I get it. Oh, see, I may know that. Wait, is this John Travolta? No, this was Texas Hold'em, but I'm forgetting it suddenly. Beyonce's going to go nuts when she sees this rendition.

Okay, I'm going to practice it up and send it to you. I actually did it at a party in front of a bunch of people, but I- Listen, if we are hosting the Oscars, I think that's even good enough to present. You know, as far as you've gotten. If we are hosting the Oscars, I think that's even good enough to present. I'm not going to rehearse. Just be like, yes it is, yeah. Humming the words you don't know. Just really dialing it in. Oh my god, I love it.

I like that thing where Billy Crystal would put himself in the movies. You know, like, that was the best. Like whatever was nominated, he'd kind of edit himself into it. So they would, that feed would go to Toronto, I mean, to Canada, to the Oscars. That feed.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was international broadcast, yeah. I didn't know, it's everywhere? The Oscars are everywhere? Yeah, well. I have no idea. Yeah, it was massive. You had no idea, Fortune? Really? No.

I didn't know if Canadians were watching the Oscars. I didn't know if it was outside of the US. I didn't know if they were up there with their ketchup chips. Yeah, it would depend if we could get electricity into the igloo that night or not. But I would stay up late. But I mean, you can't get certain things out here. Like, I can't.

There's certain whatever streaming and network or news. And I can't get up here. Yeah. So laugh all you want. Mayhem connections. The Oscars was big though. And I got to stay up late past my curfew. But that's when my famously when I was a kid, my mom, we were watching the Oscars and she

was saying, this singer is such a terrible performer. He's just got his eyes closed. He's the worst showman. And we were like, that's Andrea Bocelli and he's blind. Anyway, she didn't know he was blind. She wasn't familiar with him? No, she didn't know that he was blind. He's got his eyes closed. And then the other Oscar's memory- All these sunbassers inside. The other Oscars memory I have is my brother and I were in the basement and my mom was like,

we were in the middle of playing a board game and then my mom was calling to us saying, guys, guys, Bob Dylan is performing at the Oscars or you've gotta come up and see this. And my brother just goes, why do we have to see that fuzzy haired asshole? I don't know why. He was only 14 or something.

I was like, what? He had some feelings about Bob. Yeah, I think he just didn't like getting interrupted from his monopoly game or whatever. Don't let him see my hair. Those luscious locks. Yeah, has he seen Fortune's hair? This fuzzy asshole. This fuzzy asshole.

This fuzzy asshole. I know you guys know this, but the documentary that I've been working on got into Sundance and is there at the festival. Yes. Yeah, you are. Right now. Um, it's about my dear old pal, Andrea Gibson. Andrea and I are friends of, uh, 25 years.

Oh my God. Met in, uh, Boulder, Colorado. And, uh, I remember I was backstage at a show. It was like basically a variety show. And yeah, I met Andrea and people were like, oh yeah, Andrea is a poet. And I was like, hmm, what's that? Interesting. Yeah. I mean, obviously knew what a poet was, but I'm looking at this tatted up, this tatted up, you know, androgynous creature, thinking, interesting. And then Andrea gets on stage and just destroys the place. I mean, destroys the place with tears and laughter.

And it just changed my view on poetry from that moment on. I'm excited that the documentary will get a whole new audience and reach people who might not be into poetry or think they're not and then they have their minds blown. For sure. Yeah. And Andrea is really one of the funniest people I know, just so deeply funny. And, but this documentary is following their life with stage four ovarian cancer diagnosis. And just mind blowing, truly, truly mind blowing this film. That's exciting. It is got it done pretty fast. Is it because of just where Andrea's at,

health wise, trying to get it completely? Yeah, I mean, we were reaching a point in the discussion about what to do, how long to film, and then realizing how amazing if we wrap it up now and Andrea can see this movie and we submitted it to Sundance without telling Andrea. Oh my God. We didn't tell Andrea that we were potentially wrapping up the film and submitting it because if it didn't get in, we didn't want to let anybody down

or have any sort of disappointment. And, um, it truly got in unanimously. That's what the festival told us. That I guess there were 11 people and they said it was unanimous. Wow. And really exciting that this movie got made and is so well received. And I'm just... Congrats, man. Yeah. Thank you. That's really cool. that made and is so well received and I'm just.

Congrats man. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, but that's really cool. Really, really excited. And it's been a lot of compartmentalizing too because it's been quite a year that we've all been navigating behind the scenes. Yeah.

But anyway. Should we get to our questioner? Yeah, let's do it. Today's questioner is a comedian, writer, actor, and activist who co-created and starred in the Comedy Central series, Broad City. They starred in films including Rough Night, False Positive, and Babes,

and produced the Tony award winning musical, A Strange Loop. Ilana Glazer is asking today's question. Yeah. Hi Tig and May and Fortune, Ilana Glazer is asking today's question. Yeah. Hi Tig and May and Fortune. Ilana Glazer here. My question for you is, do you believe in God? Oh, deep. Deep.

I just, I did a After Midnight with Ilana back before the holidays and Alana is so great. And after the show, we sat on the couch and chatted for a while. And I realized, because I don't know her well, that she does like to just dig deep right away. What did you get into that was so deep? Just kind of talking about like therapy

and the benefits of that. And like, yeah, just sort of chatting about We can talk about therapy and the benefits of that. And yeah, just chatting about the pressures of the business and taking care of yourself basically. I'm excited to hear your guys' answers to this question. All right. Do we believe in God? I have to say,

I don't. I'm not doing this pod anymore. I love how you whispered it. Were you scared to? No, because when I say that I don't, I also don't like to be so concrete in that. Yeah, are you more agnostic? You're like, oh, I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, because, yeah, it's just like you, when you get into all the mechanics of how the world works and animals and nature and how complex everything is. It's like, how the hell? But then it's also like, there can't possibly be just a God who is just doling out these mind blowing, you know. What if you got hit by lightning right now? I struck that. Yeah, I still would feel the same way. You'd be like, that was a freak accident.

You'd be like, oh, that's weird. I feel like lightning came through my window. I feel like there's, whatever, if there is a God, it's something like science is going to be part of that. Like there's some, like maybe there's some energy source and we're all part of that energy and like that's what you would call God is like the source energy or something like that. It feels very scientific and then not scientific. It's like God feels like when you walk into a church or you meet certain people who are religious and talk about God, they feel, they can feel so removed from science with their

thinking. And yet, when I look at the world in a scientific way, it makes me think there would have to be. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. So for you, science makes you doubt God, but also science is partly evidence of God. Because you're like, this is too crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. Yeah. It's so... This is too crazy. Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I think so.

Like quantum theory and things like that, that as we, especially recently, we're making these huge leaps in our understanding of reality and I feel like at some point that we're gonna cross that bridge into spirituality, where science and spirituality meet up because like we know that matter behaves differently when it's observed by consciousness.

There's things that are so mind-bendingly crazy that it's like, yeah, maybe it'll... But I think that all leans more towards we're all God. You know what I mean? We're all, but... Thank you. Yeah. I'm like, we all. Just us three. I mean us three, all, but. Thank you. Yeah, no, we all.

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I also see all the benefits of community and spirituality as well. For sure. What was your experience like, and where'd you land on it? Yeah, I mean, in the South, there's a church on every corner, it's such a part of the culture and also the social fabric. If you live, especially in a small town, like a lot of community revolves around church

and a lot of social things and vacation Bible schools and Sunday school and trips. Like my mom's gotten back active in the church again and she's doing all these social things. So I grew up having to go every Sunday. And as I got older, I think the thing I struggled with with church was I would be taught these things of like, you know, as a kid you're taught the simple teachings

of Jesus, like be good to one another, do as, do unto others, is you know, whatever to have them do unto you, and like all these principles of like morals. And then I would see other people acting a certain way and being like very pompous and hypocritical. And I hated that, It really bugged me. Um, cause I would see these, these people like, um, saying like alcohol is bad or

like, this is bad or this is evil. And I'm like, yeah, but your, your behavior, like you were hammered last weekend in public, you know what I mean? And, and so that was always a big struggle for me, was the hypocrisy of it all. And that was long before I realized I was gay. So that was a whole other conversation once I came out. But I did have this like want and desire to believe in God

and to have that personal thing that didn't involve the structure of church. Yeah. And as I got older and I moved to LA and I came out, then I went through a long period of time where I was like, oh, well now that I'm gay, I must not be allowed in church. So I didn't go for many, many years. But my belief in God remained and I do believe in God but again with an asterisk of it's just a personal belief because it makes me feel better you know I think mine is rooted in

optimism hope having someone to like talk to in times of need and wanting to see my grandmother again. And someone could come tomorrow with a bunch of like facts where I go, that's valid. You know, I don't know, but it makes me feel good. Yeah, it feels like a lot of people I know have like a kind of, including me, probably like a kind of new agey, like like like people talk about like their guides or like you know like that they're hope that there's some benevolent force that's like that wants you to succeed that's like doing that's like can hold you when you're like when you when you can't when you're so depleted that there's like nothing in the tank that you

can ask for support from the universe or whatever. I feel like a lot of atheist people that I know actually have that. Especially the younger generations and stuff. There's you got your crystals, you got your tarot, you got your... And I think it's a similar thing, just hoping that there's like... That there's a reason you bought that crystal. That hoping there's a reason that these tarot cards. Yeah, I like believing in something, you know, because what I hate is when religion is used as a weapon. Yeah.

And that's been happening for centuries, you know. Wars have been fought over religion of we're right, you're wrong, we know the way, you don't know the way. That's where I get really frustrated with religion. It's not a weapon, it shouldn't be a weapon. It shouldn't be an us and them and I hate that. What blows my mind is when you think about the actual word believe, that's what you believe in, May.

That's what you believe in, Fortune. This is what I believe. People get so triggered because you believe something. Like somebody told you something, like about religion or spirituality or whatever it is, and you accept it, you go, I believe that. And then people are like, you believe that?

And then, yeah, and then all the way to war starting, because you believe. Right. You know, somebody's doing something, you're like, I don't believe that. I believe this. And that- And people freak.

And start wars because you believe something. Yeah. It's so crazy to me. What always bumps for me, even as a kid, is like the definition of faith is like, believing something despite evidence to the contrary kind of. And that I'm like, no, if you give me evidence

to the contrary, I'll adjust my, like if, you know what I mean? If there's hard evidence, you gotta be open to evolving your belief system. But you know that John Lennon song God from his solo career? It's so good. It's the opening line.

It's so good. God is a concept by which we measure our pain. Come on, that's a great line. He wrote some good lines in his time. He wrote some good. Big fan over here. Big fan. Big fan. I don't like the cherry picking of the Bible. That bothers me a lot to

this like, oh, it says in this verse, this, and you're like, yeah, it says a lot of things that don't apply in these times. Like you're not allowed to wear buttons on Wednesday or whatever. Yeah, but it's like, oh, but God says this. It's Thursday. That's a sin. Yeah. I think I've said this before, because my parents are staunch atheists, like much more than me. And I would say I have a pretty pessimistic worldview. My dad said humans are just fucked up little monkeys and all of reality and creation is

just like somebody spilled a yogurt and the bacteria proliferated and that's the world. So anyway, but when I was about 10, I decided to rebel and become super Christian for like six months. I went to an Anglican school and I just decided like, yeah, Christ is my savior. And I got a little calculator and I would,

maybe I was younger than 10, I must have been like seven or eight. But I remember I would like talk to Jesus through the calculator and it would piss my parents off so much. That's so funny. My dad said that he believes if you zoomed out on the whole universe and all the galaxies and everything, you would see that all the stars and constellations form an image of a giant insane clown rocking back and forth. So that's their worldview. Creepy.

He could be right. I mean, when I see people that, you know, my first girlfriend's parents have been a positive experience in my life as far as deeply religious people. And then my friend, Beth and I used to live next door to, in Austin, we lived next door to this family that was deeply religious, Christian, involved in their church, but really, really extraordinary examples of human beings.

And you can kind of sometimes get a little concerned or scared, which is so crazy. and you can kind of sometimes get a little concerned or scared, which is so crazy. Like when you find out somebody is so deeply religious, it can trigger fear. And it's really unfortunate. Yeah, it's sad when someone's belief system makes someone feel like, oh well, now they're not gonna like me.

Or now they'll actually hate me. And that's a part of the religious experience that bums me out. Yeah, I really like how in Judaism, I feel like their doubt is built into their faith, like it's part of it. Like that healthy doubt and constant kind of questioning. I like that.

How can there's asylum be in doubt? Sorry. My mom is a United Methodist. She makes sure everyone knows that. Because the Methodist church split over the gay thing, I don't know what the word is, where one group of people did not want gay people to be involved in the church or the clergy

or believing gay marriage, any of that stuff. And the other United part did, so the church just completely split. The church that I grew up in is the United Methodist Church. And luckily, I'm very proud that they stayed a United Methodist Church and believed in that. And some people left the church and went elsewhere because of it. But, you know, I go there, my mom has me go with her when I go home for the holidays and I make videos and it's very funny.

Oh my God, I saw one of your videos. It was so, so funny when that popped up. I can't remember. Just me going to church with my mom. That's awesome. It was so funny. I joked that like, oh, I got to go to church and oh, but when I'm there, it's just a simple message. Like the preacher is a great guy and he's doing a sermon about really relatable things and just trying to be a good person. And I'm like, I can get down with that for sure. Yeah. I love like myths and stories and stuff. So I was, I was,

I was have a pretty nice time. I used to go with my grandma too. I just have all this knowledge of church that I don't know what to do with. And I'm like it is so weird to have so much knowledge of a thing that you're not really a part of anymore. But like I was there in church like singing all these hymns I knew, I was there in church singing all these hymns I knew, saying the Lord's Prayer that I knew. It's so funny, but yeah, I don't know. Did you ever learn the Lord of the Dance, that hymn? It was like a banger.

It's like, all I remember is goes, it's hard to dance with the devil on your back. It is hard. I am the Lord of the Dancer. It's hard to think it's hard to dance with anyone on your back. It sounds like the Thorne and the Machine song. It's hard to dance with the devil on your back. Yeah, it does sound like Thorne and the Machine. Should we hear what Alana has to say?

Yes, please. I do believe in God. What does that mean? I don't know. Um I believe that there is a spiritual force that created the universe but it's not like different. You know what I mean? It's like it is life itself. It is the planet earth. I mean specifically like it's like I don't know about the whole fucking universe, but I see God as like the force that the the the destiny of why planet earth is the one organism it is all the people all the animals all the fucking bugs and plants as one organism us being here now to me that is God truly we're comedians. When people are laughing together, that's a spiritual, that's God to me.

Fucking sex, dancing, the, not to promote my Santa special, but the human magic that we, um, that comes up, you know, and fights through this like weird, like cancerous system that divides us, that is an intentional design, that isn't God. That's something else, but the humanity that arises like it, like a flower rising from the cracks of a Brooklyn sidewalk, like that's God to me. Does that answer your question? Does that answer my question? Does that answer my own question?

I mean, that is the thing for a lot of people. It is a personal relationship of maybe it doesn't mean the thing that you're taught is that old man in the sky thing. It's like whatever it means to you, whatever like you you were saying, May, iteration, the universe, spirituality, whatever. If it makes you feel better, do better, get through something, good for you. Yeah, I'm always open, intrigued when somebody, like curve ball, when I find out they are religious or Christian

or whatever it is, I'm like, oh, interesting, interesting. I'm like, I mean, I'm sort of on any given day, I'm kind of in the same camp as Alana, but then some days I'm like, well, isn't, how can we just say that all the good stuff is God? What about all the bad stuff that must be God too? The anger and fear, that's gotta be part of it. We ascribe moral values to essential human feelings.

Anyway, I don't know. Anyways, I'm in TIG. What'd you say? Anyways, I'm TIG. The way you end your sets. Yeah, yeah, just got that. It was just reminding me also of when people say things like, forget the past or why are you bringing up the past? You live in the past. Don't, you know, not that it sounds like everybody's telling me I live in the past, but that argument of leave the past in the past. And I find that interesting because

there is good in the past. And so when you conjure up old memories from the past, nobody's like, why are you bringing up these good memories from the past? You know what I mean? Leave it behind, just move on. Something about that reminds me of like, you kind of do have to have the good and the bad, that balance because you should be able to talk about the past and what was hurtful and memories.

And then you also should be able to talk about good memories and the times you laughed your face off and they're all equally as important and they all feed each other. Yeah. I have a lot of friends who've done ayahuasca or DMT, these really intense psychedelics that are becoming popular as ways to exercise trauma.

And so many of them have this same experience of meeting some benevolent source energy, especially DMT. You watch videos of people, most people say like I went to- Have you done it? No, never done DMT. In my teens, I did acid and things like that. But yeah, everyone unanimously pretty much is like,

oh yeah, I confirmed for myself that there's something more going on. And I met some energy that I felt held by. I mean, some people are like, I just saw a snake with my dad's head or whatever, but mostly people are having this profound experience. But I don't know if that's just a brain chemical thing or if that's a real, are we landing on,

we're landing on, hey, to each their own. Hey, it's a personal decision. And who knows. But also, why do we got Ghost? You know what I mean? Yeah, Ghost. Yeah, Ghost. Yeah, Ghost.

I think when we host the Oscars, we should just have this conversation about God on stage. That'll be a real fun way to start a show. While tap dancing. While tap dancing. So out of breath, all of us. I didn't like Alana's onesie outfit. Me too. That made me go,

hallelujah. Ah. Well, that was once again a grand old time. I feel like we could have had some, we could have clinked some whiskey glasses and continued discussing for a while me too. I'm on tour Doing working it out shows where I'm writing new material and so I have some fun shows coming up in California in Ontario and Oxnard, California in the month of February and Irvine, California if you want to kind of see how the sausage is made.

And yeah, I'm working out jokes. And then I'll kick off my tour in Savannah and Charleston, South Carolina, a bunch of places. So those are on my website, but check out my Netflix special, Crushing It. I think you'll like it. I know you will. I've got my music album coming out soon.

And so I'm doing, yeah, check out my social media for details, but I'm doing four really big fun shows, one in New York, one in LA, one in Toronto, and one in London. I'm gonna be playing the album and telling stories and doing third eye blind covers, you know, things like that. It'll be nostalgic.

It'll be, I'll be apologizing for existing throughout it because I've been posture syndrome about doing music, but I think it'll be fun. Own it, own it my friend. Yeah, yeah, okay. No, it'll be great. No, it will be. It my friend. Yeah, yeah, okay, no, it'll be great. No, it will be. It will be.

Yeah. I'm just wandering around the planet. I'm intermittently working on new material and then intermittently staying home and writing something that may or may not see the light of day. Also the Andrea Gibson documentary, Come See Me in the Good Light.

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