Handsome - Jane Fonda asks about hope

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

The iconic Jane Fonda asks Handsome an inspiring question about hope on today's episode! Plus, Mae spills the tea/broth, Fortune talks soggy cooters, and Tig delivers lots of laughs (even when we don't know what we're laughing about)! Don't forget to get tickets to our May 4 Live Show in LA!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to the Handsome Pod. It is your very good friend Tignotaro. And your very close friend, May Martin. And I'm Fortune Veenster. And we are handsome. Yeah, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are.

Handsome from the day we were born. Handsome from the day we died. Handsome on the days in between. Handsome just you and I. And me. Me. Wow, that was a banger. One of these days we're going to stumble upon a banger right away, top of the episode.

The handsome band is back again, baby. What do you mean one of these days? We did. Yeah, was that not a banger? You're right. We did and we always do. Yes, yes, yes. How's everyone doing?

I'm doing well. I just re-shared a picture of you, TIG, in the Oscar class. photo of like all the nominees. And it just blew my mind. I saw it today on entertainment tonight. And it's like Leonardo DiCaprio, all these nominees. And there's our, there's our little handsome tick. Right in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right in the middle. That was, that was really fun. I mean, obviously the whole process is exciting and fun, but it's, um, it's such a nice thing. Like, today was the luncheon. What's the difference between luncheon a luncheon? Don't know. Maybe there's an Oscar somewhere.

So, yeah, it was like press in the morning, then the lunch slash luncheon. And after you eat, then they call each person up individually. And everyone cheers. But it was actually really nice and fun. And like, I just was standing up there going, God, I don't know. I know maybe five people up here personally. But I felt so proud. everybody. I was so overwhelmed with like, God, good job everyone. That's nice. You know,

whoop. Excuse me. She's riled. Yes, yes. But yeah, it was a nice, it was a nice day. And have you met Leo? I met Leo not, I met him in a social gathering previously. Okay, okay. Yeah. Have you met him? I think I've heard that story from Stephanie. Yeah, yeah. I have not met him. I saw him from a distance at a party and he was vaping away and kind of grove in. And I was like, oh, what a shame. And then I thought, oh, he's kind of, you know, he's looking kind of depressing. Then he turned. I saw those baby blue eyes. And I thought, I still got it. I mean. So when you said, oh, what a shame. Was that in reference to him vaping? Just kind of the vibe. I was like, oh, he's turning into Jack Nicholson, kind of, you know.

But he does, you know, he's still got it. So he does it for you. It's really complicated. I want to be him. I want him. What are your feelings for? Yeah, what are your feelings? I don't know.

Who is this? Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, for some reason I thought I heard a different name than that. Leo. Leo. We call it still didn't. I don't know why that did not register. I am not

I mean he's a good actor but it's you know His baby blues don't do it for you No I mean he's a good looking man Listen no shade It's for me I want to be Leo in the beach

And Romeo Juliet And I want to be with Leo in the departed What if he said Yes but no and switched the roles that you had to be him in one of the other ones and you had to be with him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that'll work. Yeah, that's fine.

You're flexible? I'm flexible on that. Okay. Have you had your luncheon yet, Fortune? I don't have a luncheon, May. You don't have a luncheon today? Just your regular luncheon. Oh, I have lunch every day, but I don't refer to it as luncheons.

Well, starting today, tomorrow. Yeah, everybody's, everybody's going to have a luncheon. Do we wear blazers as well? Blazors, I've got a full suit over here. Oh, you are? I can't see your pants. I don't know. Let's show it off.

Show it off this handsome suit. YouTube. It's just more of the same. Oh, yeah. Baba boo. That's my luncheon outfit. And then I have an evening suit for tonight's event. And you just won't ever know what that looks like unless somebody posts it on something.

And then I'll reshare it like a little nerd. You're not going to be taking a bunch of pictures. I know how much you love the selfies. I do. I love a selfie. I love grabbing a famous person and getting a selfie. That's one of my favorite. Someone you don't know.

Yeah. No, I'll take a picture and I'll send it to. And then you need to post that picture, girl. No, I'm not going to post it. I'm going to send it to you, girl. And you girl. And you girl. I'm going to send it to our handsome thread.

And then you guys can rate my look. Okay, girl. Because that, right now, is that like a wine colored? Yeah, it's burgundy. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. I don't normally wear colors. And people are saying because it's a luncheon.

Oh, yeah. See? Yeah. You got to wear a lot. Cop of color. Yeah. Yeah. So I went with this.

I love it. Enough about me. How are you? Is it enough? It's never enough. It's never enough. You know, I have to say, I don't, I don't know if you saw, but I posted a video of myself from last week when I was on Star Trek. And I posted that and then I went about my day.

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, can I explain? what the video was because I fell for it. Okay. It was like a... Where you were kind of being serious. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. It was like a up close video of TIG looking really serious. Like we saw your acting chops and you were like, I don't, I hate having to post this video. I never imagined. I never imagined. Yeah. Yeah.

And then I basically just say that I got a haircut and she nailed it and I'm the hottest cast member on Star Trek. Yeah. And that, you know, it's a hard thing to be the hottest cast member. So anyway, I post that. I go about my day and I have, you know, these like screenings and all this stuff going on. And people kept saying, nice haircut, TIG. Oh. Hey, nice haircut.

Tig, nice haircut. And I was like, thank you. Completely forgot about that video. Could not figure out like people are really hitting on me. Truly was thinking, what is so different about my hair? And then when Meg Fowley said, oh my gosh, my dad sent your video about your hair, sent that video about your haircut. I didn't even think of it as a video about my haircut. I thought of it as me being the hottest person on Star Trek.

So I was like, what video is your dad saying? What is going on with my haircut? And then I put it together. But that was, yeah, a little bit of a funny little surprise. Yeah, it's something good. It does look good. It is a nice haircut. Well, thank you.

But it's my normal haircut. You know, everyone relax. Yeah, but it's got like a little style to it. Yeah, it's very dapper. Everyone calm down. Me and Fortune started a separate thread about it. Up here. Yeah.

I can't see. But, um. The unfortunate we have a separate WhatsApp thread just about your haircuts. Checking it, monitoring, blank. Yeah. WhatsApp, not text. Yeah. Or do you guys badmouth me on a separate text that like disappears that kind of thing?

Right. Disappearing. Oh, with the invisible thing around the anger or whatever. We go, what a bitch. What a bitch. I never say the word bitch and it doesn't sound good coming out of my mouth. I say it. I say it a lot for funs, you know, funnies.

For funnies. Can you guys guess what's in my mug? Is that a fun game? Ooh, yeah. Urine. You know, you're not far off. Your own urine. I forget, do you drink, right?

I do. I do. Not much, but yeah. Hmm. Oh, you're thinking it's a boozy, Bev. A hot toddy. Listen, I don't know. We're heading into evening.

It's dark outside, according to your window with no curtain on it. Yeah, it's dark over here, too. Yeah, where did that curtain thing go? You mean the newspaper clipings? Yes, that's why I sit curtain thing. Well, it's down, but the stickers are still up from where it was. But what I want is like stained glass or something. Oh, that's a beautiful choice for that little window over there.

That window that gets no sunlight through it. Yes. You must get stained glass. But wait, what is in your cup? What's in your mug? We have to guess. I'll give you a clue. It is hot.

Mmm, I'm going to say hot chocolate. I wish. T. P. It's coffee? Mm-mm. Oh, I know what it is. What?

I know what it is. Bone broth? Pretty. Yeah. It's broth. Oh, this is a gross game, actually. It's, I ordered, like, Vietnamese food, like, f, you know? And then I didn't have time to eat it before the pod, so I just poured the broth in the cup.

And at last minute, I put plain white rice in the broth. Oh, let's see. Did you talk to it? Did you say I love you? Oh, I just poured it all over my laptop. Oh, boy. Oh, my God. Will this, will this be the end of the podcast make it past this coming April?

Oh, God. Or even to April. Oh, my fug cup. Piyo. Piyo. Oh, yeah. The rice is. that you've been saying, I hate, or no, I love you too?

No, this is fresh rice. So you've been saying I hate you. Yeah. It's just always, it's fun drinking soup out of a mug, you know? I was, after one of my medical mishaps when I was hospitalized, the first thing that they gave me was vegetable broth. So good. I could not believe, because I had.

I hadn't eaten in like a week, you know? And so I was like, oh my God. When I drank that broth out of that little cup, I was like, this is the most delicious thing I've ever had. And when I got home, my aunt gave as a present a box of vegetable broth for me and Stephanie to celebrate with it. Oh, it's like so warming and salty. You feel like you're like a hobbit and you've been on this journey through the woods.

and then you finally get shelter. Pardon? Well, I made me think of like Frodo Baggins. You know. You know. Come on. When you have broth, you feel like you feel like you've been in wilderness. In more, it is a chilly night, so it's a good night for the something like a cup. It's really bringing me a lot of joy.

And that's what you said to. That's such an interesting point about gratitude. Like when you haven't eaten for a few days, then suddenly everything's like flavor explosion and oh i i didn't think i would ever move on from having just vegetable broth i was like i'm all set yeah i'm good moving forward that's why they do those um dopamine detoxes where you stay in the dark for a long time no no screens but not even any sunlight like and and then when you emerge everything's so beautiful because we're we're too dopamine exhausted and it's yeah yeah so if you stay in the pitch black for a while.

We should do a pod from the pitch black. I've been interested in doing one of those like meditative weekends where you just sit in a small dark closet essentially. Totally. I'm up for that. And your food is delivered to you and stuff. I kind of thought Lake Arrowhead would be like that. Oh, it was.

You ordered way too many things on Amazon. I know. There was no deprivation or meditation. You ordered so much stuff on Amazon that when people boycotted it and made no difference because of how much you bought. I was the reason. Yeah. Yeah. It all evened out.

Yeah. I've done one of those tanks where it's dark and you're floating in the water. What's that like? Is that what is that cool? Sensory deprivation chamber. At first I was like, oh, I'm going to drown. But then once you kind of like let yourself go, your body does start floating. And then at first it's hard to get comfortable, but then once you do, it's pretty great.

How long are you in there? I think I was in there like an hour. And why are you in there? My cooter was a real soggy y'all. Oh, my God. Is that when you pulled out like an iron or a steamer? It was pruned for sure. Oh my God.

Fortune Marie. Fortune Marie. But I was in there a long time and that's what happens. I kind of can't imagine you. I'm not trying to imagine with a pruned cooter. I can't imagine it. I try to imagine it many times. Take a ride.

But what did you think about that whole hour? What's it called? Imagination. What's this whole thing? I don't have a memory of your cooter, but I do have an imagine. I'm like, take a ride down memory lane. Your imagination. What did you ask me?

What did you think about in there? And did you sing to yourself or something? You just kind of, I think you, the thing you want to get to is like sort of a meditative state where you're just kind of being. At first you're thinking about a thousand things But then if you kind of like give yourself over to it It does become very relaxing Yeah

I was super into it by like halfway through But then I never went back And I have heard that some people have gotten pink eye From doing this Yeah someone I know Yeah Pink eye and shriveled coot So

Prune Coat and quidato Are we using this moment as a dating service Queen Dotto Wait, I'm laughing But I don't know why What's Dotto?

Wait You just sounded like me May Yeah Wait what's queen Dotto Queen Dada It means be careful in Spanish Oh I thought you were referencing

Queen Dato Oh no Just quidato I'm just by lingual I'm just Mettlingual I don't know what to tell you After I watch Bad Bunny, do the halftime show. I'm a real bilingual gal.

Yeah. I'm still thinking about it. Mm-hmm. Good stuff. You didn't go to the other... Kid Rocks. Yeah. I missed it.

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A lot of people shower in the dark. That's supposed to be really good. Turn off the lights when you shower. Why? Good for what? I don't know. Good for nothing. Good for nothing.

Good for like. I don't know that I want to shower in the dark. I know. You don't have to, Fortune. Maybe I just think some people do. I shower in the morning. I'm a morning shower. and I use it as a way of waking up.

Of course. So I want the light. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense, actually. Yeah. Have you ever had your coffee in the shower with you to double wake up? Yeah.

Or when I'm in a huge rush, I've done that. Yeah. I've had it in the bathtub with me. Hello. Trifcoot. I love a water situation. Just put me in water and let me float. and I'm going to be living my best life.

Yeah, me too. I like the pool. I like the tits out hot tub. I like the bathtub. I like a shower or like a pontoon situation. I can't believe I forgot about tits out hot tub. You can't forget about tits out hot tub. Yeah, because it was because your hot tub is not.

It's too short. It's too short. It's just a little shot. It's such a great visual. It really is. Especially on a cold. cold day. The only way to get warm is to like lay, you have to like lay down in the, in the hot tub. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, my neighbors are seeing my chichies.

Your chichies. That's a new one. I'm bilingual. I told you. Is that what they call? I don't think that's the formal Spanish word for boobs. Like a doctor, if you went to a doctor in Mexico City, they wouldn't. Let's check out these. Chee-chies. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

I don't know. Not, you guys don't know much about that. I don't know much about anything, really. Really? Yeah, I'm a long for the ride. I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true at all. I believe it is.

I don't believe that. I know about Chi-chees, but I did not. That's what I've heard. Yeah. Word on the street. Take nose her way around some Chi-Chi's. These handsome, these handsoms know their way around some Chi-Gis. That is right.

That's what our podcast is known for. Well, but it's, well, like people, like people have, I never know if you're sleeping with someone, like some people like you to do stuff with their chichies. Some people really don't. So you never know. Some people are like hands off the chichis. Yeah, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? I like a motor button.

Yeah. Fortune. You are on one today. Fortune Shrivelled Coot Marie Fortune Proofo Did you give me

Another middle name? Fortune Shriveled Coot Drivel Coot's Marie No just singular Shrivel Coot Marie Sorry

Trivel Coot Marie Trouble Coot Yeah what's going on with you What you're riled I've been I've been filming all day Oh okay And waking up at like 4.30 in the morning.

So I don't know why I'm bouncing off the walls right now. I should be passing out. Well, how is your shoot today? It was great. I got to do some stunt work. By that, I mean, my stunt person did the stunt and I laid on the ground and popped up. And went, ooh. So you do your own stunts.

I sure do. I did more stunts. In Fubar, this one was a tough stunt. So I said, I'm gonna tap out on this one. Yeah. But the other day I did a lot of my, what was, they had a stunt person doing it, but I did a lot of it as well.

Have you guys ever had to get like slapped in something? And then I did, and I was like, can you just do it for real? Because it's so hard to act the like, gush. And this was with Tony Collette. And she was like, no, of course not. I didn't do it. Well, she was like, I'm not going to, yeah, she was like, just act.

I was like, right. Just act. Right. Did she say it with an Australian accent? I think so. My. Did I tell you about the time when I was on the Sarah Silverman program 10 billion years ago? Mm-mm.

And I had a show in San Francisco. And they called me. Wait, what, May? I just took a sip of soup and then I'm like chewing the rice and it made me laugh. Sorry. So it's okay. I understand. So I'm in San Francisco for, you know, a weekend of shows.

And I get a call from production saying they need me to fly down to L.A. During, you know, on Friday or whatever, during, like, first flight out Friday morning, get slapped in the face by Jay Johnston, who was at the insurrection. I don't know. Wait, yes. Jay Johnson. I don't know who this is. He was at the insurrection.

Yeah, he played my police cop buddy in Sarah Silverman. But anyway, so I had to fly down that morning, get in my cop suit and full makeup, slaps me in the face, and then go straight to the airport, fly back to San Francisco. Oh, my God. And get on stage that night. That's wild. Yeah. And it's like, it was a point in my life where, you know, I was making appearances on Sarah's show.

And I was headlining at a comedy club. And I felt like the biggest star in the world that they were flying me down to L.A. To get offless. Southwest to Burbank. For sure. Just for Jay to slap me in the face. Like, I've made it, baby. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. I did a self-tape today for, uh, to play an androgynous sex robot. Oh, I think you can do that. I think it's in my wheelhouse, a kind of spectrumy sex robot.

But it's so embarrassing. Self-tapes are so embarrassing. Yeah, I get a friend to help me. The scene opens with me laughing, but I don't know what came before it. Oh, really? Oh, we don't know why you're laughing. I don't know why I'm laughing.

And I don't know robots had a sense of humor. Well, this one has some human-like qualities. I think they've hacked the algorithm or something. Can we hear the laugh that you did? Okay, I got confused because it's a sex robot. So I'm like, is it a flirty. Yeah. So I think I just murdered a bunch of people and I'm maybe be laughing at that.

And so I go, I go, no, wait, it wasn't like that. It was more flirty. Take two. Okay. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, it was like, thank you. That's how I did it. It was more of a chuckle.

Oh, just a little chuckle. Yeah. You didn't go full force like, I should have done that. I should have done that. Oh, regrets. If I was casting something and someone made that bold choice, I,

damn. Yeah. Maybe your robot just murdered a bunch of people and you're laughing. No, that is what it is. That is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know you knew why you were laughing.

Well, I don't know if something was said, but I know I have just murdered people, but I don't know why I would be laughing. Like I, like I, that it was so easy. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it felt so good. Do you have, you have, you have to have sex? I'm trying to seduce Alexander Scarsguard, kind of. I'm not going to get the part. Let's be honest. But we don't know this. No, we don't. Because that laugh is pretty good. It was a chuckle. It was a chuckle. It was a Joke of what, maybe that's what they want. Fake laughing is really, well, clearly not that hard.

TIG just nailed it. You know, it's the hardest thing to do. What? Is to yawn. So yeah, it doesn't look real, May. For sure, does not. Really? You can't put your hand up there.

You got to really show. No, no, guys. But I just really yawned. No, it still looked fake. That was a legit, real yawn. You know what cracks me up? You just went. To me, yell at my yawn fortune.

I learned a new trick from Kim Kardashian today. Oh, what's that? I was in the scene and I felt like I was going to have to sneeze. And I was like, I think I'm going to sneeze and it wasn't happening. And there was a big crane with a light on it. She said, look into the light. You never heard that? No, I turned around to the light and immediately sneeze.

Yeah, I've heard that. That's as old as time. Well, no, Father Abraham was, but I've never heard, I've never heard this. Yeah, I've heard that, but I've never tried it. Is it, how is that possible? It works. It works. Like, I literally sneeze like that.

Whoa. Yeah. I'm trying it now, but I guess I didn't have to sneeze to begin with. Exactly. You have to sneak. You have to have it all built up. Yeah. It's a terrible feeling when a sneeze is about to get away from you.

Do you, is it true that if you sneeze with your eyes open, your eyeballs pop out? Yes. Okay, thanks. I know many people who have lost their eyes to such a thing. I feel like my, I have really intense sneezes. I scare the whole house, the cats jump and run and the alarm gets set off. It's really bad. Like if I tried to bring it down a notch, I think my brain would just come flying out of my ears. That's like, that's like the most dad thing about you I've heard. That's such a dad thing that their sneezes are like, Wachshu! Wait, that's the most dad thing. Have you heard other things that weren't quite so daddish? Just that I've heard about you. Yeah. Yeah. Just when I picture you're doing big

sneezes in the house. I'm like, that's dad, dad energy. Yeah, yeah. I got dad energy. Big dad energy. BDE. That's right. That and that suit you're wearing. We have a really exciting question. Yeah, coming from a really exciting mouth that's attached to a really exciting person. Yeah, I'm a big fan. Yeah, yeah. Samezies. You'll hear about our guests in a second, but it's a real legend.

She's been in the biz, as they say, for a long time. Very long. And this is one that, this is a question you got for us, Teg. I just say it still blows my mind that people like icons. like this or are sending in cues to this little pod. I know it. And icons like this are still so active in the world doing cool, great things. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Today's question asker is an actor, fitness guru, an activist who's won countless awards, including multiple Oscars, Golden Globes, and Emmys. She's been an outspoken anti-war advocate and feminist icon for decades.

One of her workout videos is the highest selling VHS tape of all time. Jane Fonda is asking today's question. Nice. Oh, I've jazzercised with this gal a time or two. Jazzercised with Jane. Yes, right. Hi, this is Jane Fonda, and I'm on the handsome projects. And I'm also on my way to Santa Barbara to the film festival,

because I have a documentary called Gaslit that's being shown. there. That's why I'm all dressed up and made up. So my question for you all, which is an important question, because the people that appear to be in charge of this country right now want us to be hopeless, confused, chaotic, and hopeless. So remaining hopeful is basically an act of defiance, and it's absolutely needed right now. So my question for you is, how do you remain hopeful? Wow. That's such a good question. A good question. A good. question. She's seen a lot in her lifetime. She really has. And she's hearing that from her makes me feel hopeful. Like it's just so reassuring to whenever she speaks, I think. Can I just tell you right out of

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And she gets up and she starts rallies. She's making videos for TikTok. She's, you know, she's like marching and involved. She's engaged. She cares so much. And it's really remarkable because I, Stephanie and I were with her the other day, and one of the things she said,

she was like, I feel so lucky to be alive right now. Oh, wow. Which I feel like so many people would say the opposite of. Yeah, absolutely. And she, she's so personifies, like the type of hope that is not just,

because, like, if the definition of hope is, like, expecting a positive outcome, like, trying to, trying to confidently believe that, that a positive outcome, can happen. And I don't know, sometimes I get, I get down or I get pessimistic because I, and I, or I think that being hopeful is like a cop out and like I can't be hopeful and angry or something, but she's hopeful

and angry. And she's, her brand of hope is like empowering. It's like we have the power to make these changes. It's not just like, well, this, you know, this will sort itself out. It's like she is up doing stuff because she's seen firsthand the effect that that lobbying can have and activism. And that's so encouraging to be like, this can make a difference. There's like things like boycotts and protests and bringing attention and awareness to things and lobbying. It does make a difference. That is good.

Did she expand on why she's glad to be alive in these times? I mean, I didn't have a follow-up question for her. I think it was more the vibe. and I could have been wrong is, I don't even know that she's, that it was like, not like she's having a, like,

oh, what a great time, but like, yeah, no, more like, there was a feeling of hopefulness of like,

we can turn this around. And I'm glad I'm still here to contribute to this. Yeah. And like, let's get to work. And that there's, there's so much wonderful stuff

on the other side of it all. But, um, that really stuck with me. Yeah, and I wonder if like generationally she's she's not in this social media algorithm and negative news cycle that is so overwhelming and makes you feel so, so paralyzed and so negative about human nature and makes you feel like people are so divided in such an extreme way.

Like maybe she's, she's outside of that. You know what I mean? Well, and also when you hear from an older person who's been through different iterations of bad times, good times and bad times and that she remains hopeful, that helps people, I think, be hopeful because she's like, oh, she's seeing some low lows and seeing the country or the world get through those things and, yeah, like the hills and valleys of it. Yeah, I find it so hopeful.

People could just end up sitting on a couch watching the news complaining and that's the end of the story. Yeah, like being outraged and echoing the outrage but not offering solutions or chasing solutions. And I'm trying to remember, like I can be like that. I do feel, today I feel good, but some days I do feel really overwhelmed and like paralyzed by the insanity. and and then I did the other day I was Googling stuff, you know. And then I found like a study that was over decades measuring empathy and people and kindness and generosity. And the study showed like there's been no deterioration in human empathy and kindness and

stuff like that. We are actually wired for altruism and community and kindness. That's like we are wired that way as. animals and so that's reassuring and that all the conflicts we're experiencing and division hopefully can lead to like you need that to break down the old way and build something new I hope I don't know and so we were specifically Googling what like are people bad are is human nature bad are people are people getting worse worse I think yeah are we in a moral decline like where And you're asking Google.

Yes. Why not talk to chat GPT? No, not chat GPT. The AI that's taking over all of us. No, I'm not going to use him again. But yeah, I just like I'm trying to zoom out and get a picture of like, is this, are we spiraling towards really the end? Because it can feel like that with everything. And then so I'm trying to actively think like even the word apocalypse.

I was listening to a podcast. Apocalypse means to reveal something new. So, yeah, it's a hopefully we're going to, we're hitting a real rock bottom in terms of like corruption and depravity and having a, you know, a country, like lots of countries in history have been revealed to be run by kind of an organized crime ring basically. And hopefully now it's out in the open. This is, this is what we're going to need to. And how does it feel for somebody like yourself who is not from this country? Yeah, weird. And I know there's corruption all over the world and there always has been and there always will be.

But to be smack dab in the middle of what is going on in a country that you aren't even from. Yeah, I feel like I feel like I'm a masochist for, but then I also feel like scared to say stuff and like I can't or I don't have a right to get as engaged and involved as I want to be. And, you know, I'm worried about my green card application and stuff. So that's a weird place to be. But yeah, it is really weird. A lot of my friends in Canada are like, what are you doing? Yeah, it's such a strange time. You see like Olympic athletes and stuff saying it's a very strange time to be out representing America. But then also so many amazing people are here in the best of it's like the best and the worst.

Yeah, but it is a really uniquely surreal, surreal time. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're getting more information than ever. It's so there in your face and news is now entertainment. Yeah. So, you know, you want to stay informed. But these times are requiring you to dig a little bit more because it's crazy how many videos are popping up now that our AI.

And are fake. And it's so easy to like see a headline on this and be like, oh my God. But you're required to like go a step further to be like, is that true? So there's like a duty on our end to not just bury your head in the sand and have this ignorance, this bliss attitude. Otherwise atrocities continue to happen without any checks and balances. So you have to be present in that way. but I think what makes me stay hopeful is also remembering to go out into the world

and be around people and, you know, especially with the job that we have of traveling and stand-ups, it allows us to meet a lot more people than maybe we would if we stayed in our bubble. And then when I'm out in the world and I meet so many different people, that makes me hopeful because it reminds me like, oh, there are a lot of really good, kind people in all these different cities and states, red states, blue states. Yeah. And when I can experience life in person and, you know, sure you see people act like digs, but you also see a lot of empathy, kindness. And that makes me go, okay, there's a lot of us out there, a lot of nice people out there. Yeah. And that will, you know, that's what we need.

Yeah, like I want, I want to do a pruning of, not to bring up pruned cooter again, but like a pruning of my Instagram. No, please do. Yeah, especially if it's fortunes. I want to prune fortunes. No, I want to like on my Instagram make sure I'm only following people who are really. That's my burner account. At prune cooter.

Like people who are really informed. account is that what it's called? I don't know what that is. It's called a fake account. Finsta. Finsta. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like I'm accidentally following all of these random sites that are just putting

endless pictures of like confrontations with people and and yeah, I want to be following really informed people who are posting longer content or directing to places to donate or actions to take or solutions. Like I got it because I'm really bad with Instagram. I'm really addicted and I'm constantly watching full blown murders in front of my eyes. It's like we're not meant to synthesize all this stuff, I think. So yeah, I'm trying to stay and end with like our platforms, just like directing people to actual things they can do locally and nationally to help.

Because there are things. And then the minute you do something local and you see the change, you feel so empowered and hopeful. Why on the hope, too, is that, you know, when things swing one way really far, the hope is that it swings back at some point in the other direction so that there is that where we're in this space right now, the hope is that it swings back over when, you know, elections happen. And I know that it gets scary when you hear people will be like,

you're never going to get rid of me. I want to go for third terms, the fourth terms. The hope is that, again, the checks and balances of our judiciaryism stay in place and protect us from that kind of like, you know, monarchier, not even monarchy dictatorship, that we can remain a governing body where people can vote on. Well, that's, I mean, recognizing that that's a real threat of losing that and then really demanding it and like calling your representative and flooding them with phone calls and demand. Like that stuff really has an impact because it really disrupts things. Like that five-year-old who was in the ice camp and was released, Liam, he that was from pressure.

That was from pressure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, heartbreaking all the other kids who are still in there. But like that spotlight that we can put on things does help, I think, in a way. Absolutely. When you have to help the people coming up, the young people care. They got to care. They got to show up and vote and do things and be active and be participants

and not just let things happen to us as a society and as a country. Do you have to see that participation and the high? hope is that they will give a shit about what happens. I sometimes accidentally am like, well, either I'm like, oh, I hope the grownups fix this, or I'm like, I hope these teens come and fix this. And I'm like, I'm the grown up. I forget like. Who looks like a teen.

Who looks like a teen, sure. And can fix this. But like we are the, no one is coming to help us. We are the adults. And so, yeah. Yeah. of course, pressure's on Gen Z to sort this out. But like, yeah, let's help them.

I'm behind Jimmy. I do feel like this. Listen, I don't ever miss a vote ever. No, man. I have been, I've always seen that very seriously. Yeah. My grandmother was very active. My mom was very active.

My mom still, to this day, volunteers at the polls. Every election. So there's not one vote that I miss. Yeah. That's so nice. Ginger's seems like a very active person. Like you said the LGBT parents group and stuff. Like she gets involved. She gets her hands dirty.

P flag. P flag. P flag. P flag. P flag. Is there a P flag in Canada or England? There must be. Should we hear what Jane has to say?

Yes, please. I hope she helps us. Gives us some pointers. I hope she does too. Come on, Jane. We need hope. We're hopeful Jane. And we're hopeful Jane makes us hopeful.

I've experienced personally and have witnessed enough change in my lifetime to know that hopelessness is not only self-defeating, it's unrealistic. You know, writer Annie Lamont said, if you want to be hopeful, if you want to have hopeful feelings, do hopeful things. This would include paying attention and noticing when things are going well, celebrating incremental victories and improvements instead of waiting for the big final victory. engage in caring and nurturing activities. They promote hopefulness. And by the way, my current action, which you've participated in, TIG, working with the entertainment industry to protect the First Amendment and electing people to office who don't kowtow to corporations

but work for people and the planet, these actions have helped me remain hopeful. You know, the young climate activist, Greta Toonberg, She says, everybody goes looking for hope. Look for action and hope will come. And another quote that I love, this is the Vaclav Havel. He was a very famous playwright in Czechoslovakia. He was imprisoned by the communists in 1985.

He said, hope is the ability to work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance for success. Five years later, communism, fell and Black LePobble became president. You never know how things are going to turn out. So take action and be hopeful. I love it.

I mean, how do you not want to... Yeah. Yeah. The best. The best. Yeah, I like that Greta Tumberg quote as well. I'm trying, yeah, I mean, send us, if you're listening and you have

info, organizations, that you think it would be good for us to be aware of or ideas for the handsome community to get involved. You're on the Reddit page that I never look at. Just kidding. I look at it a lot. Suggest some stuff locally, you know, meet up with each other. Fortune loves a meetup.

Yeah. So many meetups. Yeah. Constantly meeting up. Well, it's got to start in your, you know, start in your community. Absolutely. Start in your neighborhood. Yeah.

You got to start somewhere. I think that's the problem is everything feels so big and out of your control and out of your hands. And when things feel so big and overwhelming, people tend to go, well, there's nothing I can do about it. And they just go on about their lives. But there are things that you can do. And it has to start. They always say start at a local level. Start around your town, around your city.

And find ways to make that place better and grow it from there. And I think people get intimidated. and they're like, oh, I've never done this, or I've never shown up to some community gathering or political event. And, you know, I think that it's so cliche, but showing up is half of it. Yes.

I mean, really, it's, whether you're pursuing your dream or showing up to political causes, and you don't even, know where to start. Yeah. Just showing up, people will point you in the right direction because they will be absolutely thrilled that you're there. Yeah, you're, you'll be, you'll feel that love as soon as you get there and be welcomed with open arms. I've been volunteering at the, uh, that food on foot in LA and I've never done that before. And I was totally nervous the first time that I was just going to do it wrong or I was going to, it was going to, it was going to be scary. And, and now I'm almost every Sunday

I'm there. It makes me feel so grateful. That's amazing, May. I'm loving it. And they, and every time I've been, they've run out of food for the line. So like, yeah, give what you can. I thought you're saying that. Like, it's a really great thing. Every time, they run right out of food. It's like they need support. And they're one of many organizations that you have no idea what a difference your 20 bucks a month would make or your whatever. And the boycotting, the economic activism. This whole situation is caused by greed and money. And that's something we have control over. Look at Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah. That's just the perfect example. Yeah. Unbelievable. When people were like, yeah, we're out. Yeah. Yeah. He's the king on top.

Cancel your subscriptions. Yeah. Or look for, you know, support minority owned companies and alternatives. Some of our sponsors are really great alternatives to things like, Yeah, Amazon, even Whole Foods, I think, is sketchy. But that's what, that's the thing is that when, you know, people are seeing these things happen and they're like, that's not right. It is amazing to see people, you know, coming together very quickly. You know, like you said with the Kimmel thing, like they canceled all these subscriptions and it quickly reversed what was happening.

And then, I mean, even in Minneapolis, you're seeing their entire community's, you know, showing up to help other people. Obviously, there are, you know, things that have happened there. And not backing down. And not backing down. I mean, it is incredible. And with the weather and the crowds turning out, it's just, it's really beautiful around such a sad, sad.

Yeah. That's what I'm really loving. There are a few people right now who are fighting for the accountability for Epstein. perpetrators and they're out there and their refrain is we will not let this go and yeah we that's what they're hoping we'll do that we'll just be so overwhelmed we'll go fucking yeah there's it's just too much that people will just again turn a blind eye but people are going no no don't let this go it would be so easy to just walk in your house and ignore it and they're like no yeah so that's what that's what's going to make change and seeing people

be so brave is another thing that helps with the hope. Yeah. And there's some serious bravery going on right now in the world. As much as there is horrendousness, the bravery that is in action is, it's... Very inspiring. It really is. Like, I'm beside myself when I see the bravery that is going on. I mean, an ex-girlfriend, like, close, close friend of mine who I think I've talked about who's in Gaza now with Doctors Without Borders.

And the bravery, like, I can't even talk about it without crime. But I'm like, there are hundreds of thousands of people out there doing that, putting their lives at risk to bring aid. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. A lot of those people out there. Yeah. It's really beautiful to see that.

kind of action going on. But also don't beat yourself up if, you know, and then get paralyzed. And then just do the little thing that you feel you can. Yeah. And then that will lead to another thing and another thing. And just show up, whether it's to a friendship, a march or your dream, showing up is really, really powerful. Yeah.

Well, how about that? How about it? serious today. Yeah, we really did. Good thing I talked about cooters earlier. Yeah, thank God. So we covered all our faces. And Hollywood events.

Man. Yes. I'm going to get a massage after this, actually. I don't know why I just said that, but I was cheering. I mean, that's showing up. You're going to show up for a massage. You just said brave.

Yeah. Hashtike brave. I love you too. Talking about this made me need a massage. I'm going to go show up. I'm going to show up. Yeah, yeah. So March 10th, what do you guys got coming up soon?

Well, we have this live show I'm very excited about. May 4th. Hanson at the Wiltern as part of Netflix as a joke fest with Brittany Snow and Malin Ackerman. In Los Angeles. Yes. That's last. Yes. Oh, quidado.

I have the Oscars this week. No big deal. Oh, shit. Yeah. Excels. This Sunday. And then I'm also on tour. And you can catch me in Connecticut and Maine and New Jersey and California and Washington State.

Just so many. New York, I don't even know what to tell you. Oregon, I'm coming for you. Tignotaro.com and also come see me in the good light on Apple TV, the documentary I produced about Andrew Gibson. I'm, I will have, when this comes out, I will have just finished my first little chunk of tour. And on March 17th, I'm in Minneapolis. We just added an extra show at 9.30. And then Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Ohio, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. And New York and Philadelphia on this really long stint.

So please come to all those ones. There's still tickets on Maymartin.net. Yeah, starting in April. I'm in Oklahoma City, Fayetteville, Arkansas, and Little Rock, Arkansas, San Antonio, Dallas, Texas, Des Moines, Toronto, Rochester, Minnesota, Cedar Rapids, Omaha, Portland, Maine, and Detroit. So check out a show. That's one of our small ways to try.

try to help other people be hopeful as going around this country and trying to make people laugh and bring some levity and also bringing groups of people together that, you know, share that same energy and love and acceptance and hopefully spreads that out to everybody else. Yes, indeed. I think all of us have that experience of our shows. I'm sure maybe all comics feel this, but I feel like our particular, if, you know, you know, fan base is so full of warmth and connectivity, and it's really a nice vibe. If you're feeling down, come out and give a stranger a hug.

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