Handsome - Kenan Thompson asks about the glass ceiling

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

Kenan Thompson (SNL, "Kenan") asks the Handsome hosts for their takes on a major political milestone. Plus Barbie outfits, unsuccessful pick-up attempts, and Mae's unforgettable Justin Trudeau story!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodEmail the show: [e-mail]'t forget to rate & review Handsome wherever you get your podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to the handsome pod another great podcast coming your way this is fortune fiendster I'm Tig Notaro I'm Mae Martin and we're handsome we are really handsome I'm Tig Notaro. I'm Mae Martin. And we're handsome. We are really handsome. I'm not feeling very handsome right now. I'm feeling red from the gym. Oh, yeah, you went to the gym? Red from the gym, yeah. Was this a hard workout day?

Yeah, no, no. I just sort of wander around. I do a little here, a little there. Make friends. Yeah, make friends yeah make friends get red do you meet any um romantic uh possibilities at the gym well i feel like maybe on another episode i talked about the steam room incident with the yes very hit yeah a very handsome man but no other than that i just i'm just turning into my mom like i just get incensed with rage if someone kind of takes too long on a machine or

get or like is being loud on their phone are you an irritable person do you have a high tolerance for fools fools do you suffer fools tag you know i had an experience today i was driving and this guy stopped it was a neighborhood street and I was behind him. He stopped in front of me, did not use his blinkers, just was stopped in the road. And we were not at a light. We weren't at a stop sign, just stopped. And I waited and thought, okay, I always assume there might be an animal or somebody walking in front of the car that I can't see. Or I think, oh, maybe they're on their phone. But that didn't really make sense with him because we were driving along.

And then after a beat, nothing. And so I did a little toot toot of the horn, not aggressively, but just what is going on here? Like, hey, I'm behind you. Nothing still. So I decided I'd go around him. Well, guess what this fool did? Turned his car to the left to block me. What?

Got out of his car and comes up to my window and starts screaming at me. Oh, my God. And I was telling Stephanie that it's that thing where you think and apparently he lived in the apartment building that he was going to turn left on but he didn't have his blink i didn't know what he was doing right and so i was telling stephanie that if i felt comfortable i would have rolled the window down and been like where is your blinker like i don't know what you're doing and also what is your problem but i just sat there in my car completely unfazed staring at him while he was screaming at me i can picture you just going what's what is up yeah i was just looking at him like okay get your rage out and uh yeah that's like something else for sure

you're just like why is this coming out now yeah but did your blood pressure grow like were you scared no no i was a little i was a little like what is he gonna do because i thought he can beat on the car or he can do whatever he wants yeah he couldn't really do anything to me you know yeah it is scary in this country though like to i would just avoid all all conflict i think well that's where i could have had it escalate if i rolled the window down and started saying something but i just sat there staring at him like this is ridiculous get in your car there's more and more road rage lately and i was just like people need to like talk things out there's a lot of pent-up stuff happening i wonder if there's something for cars to have some sort of gadget where if you decide

to have it turned on and you're within range you can you can talk into their car oh that's such a good idea your voice just yeah if it's another tesla or something your voice just comes in and they're you're like what you're like i don't suffer fools or just even like um i'm sorry but i don't know what you're doing you don't have your blinker on or you know what i mean because everything is so um having to get out and and and the only way to communicate is so archaic you're just honking you're just like and that could mean anything uh pardon me or um i'm gonna kill you yeah or you could replace the horn sounds with with yeah how do you do it, if you replaced all car horns with that It would be a little less confidential

That is less aggressive But all those things that could be great for the world Would be ruined by one gross man Like voices going into cars would be so great What are you wearing in there? Like flannel? Yeah Hey, that sounds sexy

You ever think about taking it off well yeah but i don't well there's always a first for everything i don't mind him you don't mind him no so far he's not too bad yeah he's pretty reasonable he's like hey yeah it's kind of hot out today. Maybe take the flannel off. Take the flannel off. I just wanted to ask. So wait, Meg, you're a road rager at the gym, though, you and your mom. Yeah, I mean, growing up, it was like if we went to a movie and someone was crinkling

their candy, like my mom would take it upon herself to be the spokesperson of the rest of us. And she's right. We were all thinking it. But she would be the one to be the spokesperson of the rest of us and she's right we were all thinking it but she would be the one to be like excuse me and she would always say something and it would be so humiliating and um now i i'm sort of becoming her but i try actively not to but like last time i went home my mom said i have an enemy i was like oh god who and she said the woman who works at the cbs like the canadian equivalent and i was like really like, God, who? And she said, the woman who works at the CVS, like the Canadian equivalent.

And I was like, really? Like this poor, this woman who probably doesn't want to be there. And it's this older woman in her 60s. And my mom is just like, she's incompetent. I'm like, yeah, but, you know, go to a different store. But she's like, I, she like plans how she's going to be with her, how she's going to ice her out. And she sort of relishes it, I think.

I think it sort of motivates her. I have an enemy. I have an enemy. You don't seem like a very angry person, Fortune. No, I avoid confrontation at all costs. I'm like, whatever you need, that's fine. All right, I'm just going to do my thing you do yours i'll be over here singing professionally do you think it would like feel good to just freak out and punch a punching bag or something and primal scream um i don't get i don't i mean i

get angry of course but i don't have i don't feel like I have a lot of pent up stuff that I need to punch out. That's good. I mean, not that I don't have those moments, but for the most part, I'm pretty chill. I can get like a little moody occasionally. Like if I am tired or if I haven't eaten, I'll be like cranky. But I'm not usually like angry. I would love to see your version of cranky and moody I bet it's so sweet still well I'm just more like okay all right let's go yeah

but kind of short I guess so what do you do when Jax has an issue that she would like to present because I can see Jax having an issue that she would like to present? Because I can see Jax having an issue that she would like to present. She definitely does not suffer fools and will have no problem icing someone out. I mean, we don't fight a lot, but occasionally when we do, you just kind of have to dig into it. Yeah.

I don't avoid it right with her um just because I know we're in it to win it so I try to be like at first I'm a little defensive like god like no I didn't do that what god it turned into like a five-year-old. No. It's not true. Why do you do this? That's great. And then once you get past the defensiveness, you can kind of like, all right. I did it.

I did that. How was Australia? It was good. It was really nice. We were there for two weeks. I did seven shows out there. Lovely people. When you were walking down on the street, did you pause and think,

this is where I first met Mae? I did think that. I did think that. Our anniversary was in Melbourne. I can't believe they don't have a plaque on that corner. I know. We were walking down the street and you were behind us. It's been like six or seven years since I've been to Australia, so it's been a while.

It was good. It was tiring, though. This is the first time I've bounced around to five different cities. I was in three different time zones. It was a lot, but I'm glad i did it are you enjoying touring still this goes for both of you yeah or do you ever feel like oh i need a break from it i mean i haven't stopped touring since the basically the everything kind of opened up with the pandemic i'm a little tired yeah but it, yeah, I will want to break after this tour.

But I'm kind of just full steam ahead. When does that wrap up? I'm going to extend this one longer than my last one. I think it probably will go till the fall of next year. Whoa. Fall of next year? Dude. I'm hitting so many different cities that I've never done before.

Canada, Europe, Australia. I'm doing a bunch of those things, too. And as you're touring, are you writing and swapping things out and in, or what? I have been doing that a little bit, but I need to dig back into the set. You're both a lot hardier than me. I think I have a fragile constitution and like i feel like a kind of victorian child with consumption like i can't i don't know i can do like weekends here and there and like you know i did a tour of the uk

that was pretty intense but i get i get tired i gotta i like my routine i don't know i don't know i think it's brave and cool i'm getting a little more like that where yeah i kind of went a little hard after the pandemic and now i'm i'm like i gotta wrap this up yeah and hang out and talk about pokemon yes you have to talk about scaramender and yeah they're like fire sign water water sign something sign and something i'm not that's what what i mean you gotta study yeah learn about it yeah i feel like there's a lot of pressure nowadays to like film a special more so than there was before i feel like before people would wait like three years or something four years in between and now it's like gotta do another one gotta do

another one and i'm like that's so much output yeah i don't write to that but i mean who's who's pressuring you to do it no i mean i guess just see people around you you know like peer press not no one's like saying you have to do this but you see other people churning it out i see well i text you every morning i feel pressure i guess by that i see i hear you should we do one together where we say one word at a time like we we do an hour of stand-up it's like hi i'm sure the audience would love that well it's kind of like how the sklar brothers are to some extent when they talk it's like it's really very rehearsed and like filling in each other's sentences it's yeah yeah we could do that you have to really memorize every beat you're like i don't think i could do that. You have to really memorize every beat.

You're like, I don't think I could do that. Tag teaming with someone. We'd also have to change our name to the Sklar triplets. That's true. Yeah, exactly. Or the Sklar sister brothers. Yeah. Sister people.

Sister people. Sister, wife Sister people. Yeah. Sister, wife, spouses. I guess you could, soon do you think people will be just doing, never mind. I was going to say about AI faces. Who cares? Yeah.

We'll cut that out. I'm going to Montreal tomorrow, and I have to do a 12 minute televised set and it's been so long since i've done 12 like tight minutes with i'm such a rambler and i tell these long sort of sad stories yeah i don't know it yeah i don't know i sent over and also when they ask for a script and you're like oh i hate that yeah typing it out maybe i don't feel like doing this particular thing on the day exactly yeah so when i've typed things out i've gotten um notes that it seems too short and i'm like well my pauses are long yeah yeah you don't mind you don't mind the taking

those beats no i don't you like relishing it yes i'll take a good hour this paragraph this is actually me going long so uh get an editor in place if you were to write out like say the bit on conan with the bar stool it would be pretty short right now well i remember when the booking agent asked me to be uh to come do a set i was like oh you know i have these jokes and then as the closer i'm just gonna push a stool around the stage for a few minutes and he was like what was he just panicking well he was just he was confused but he said you know i trust you i just i would like to see it because i can't quite picture what you're talking about and i was like okay i said you know

i've been kind of closing my shows with this so um and it works it's it's you know a little up and down but it works and so he came to see me uh push the the stool around at the comedy store. And then he approved it. It was so funny. Oh, thanks. I was like, oh, Tig's still pushing that stool. We've been talking about it on the podcast i've been treading water lately just a few minutes out of my day that i take for myself to do something that's good for me i wake up feeling better i have

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you get your podcasts. Where it came from, i pushed that stool across the stage and then i pushed it off the stage and through this is like from the road yeah and i pushed it through the venue i pushed it out the venue and then the audience came with me they did yeah i pushed it down the sidewalk, across the crosswalk, while there was traffic waiting. Oh, yes. While the traffic was waiting for me,

and the audience is cheering on the sidewalk as I push the stool across the street. Wow. That's the early days of the stool. That is commitment right there. I really want one day you're going to be stuck behind someone who's just stopped in the road, and you get out of your car, and there's someone just pushing the stool. That is commitment right there. I really want one day you're going to be stuck behind someone who's just stopped in the road and you get out of your car and there's someone just pushing a stool real slow.

And that is a callback. Nicely done. I would bail on a lot of things and you commit so hard and that's what makes it amazing. Like the indigo girls bit. I'd be like, as soon as, well, makes it amazing like the indigo girls bit i'd be like as soon as well the indigo girls bit in my

special is a truncated version when i normally did that live i did it for 30 minutes oh my god you're like no no for real please welcome it pained me to shorten that to 15 minutes. But apparently their song, Closer to Fine, is all throughout the Barbie movie, which is exciting. Really? Yeah, I think, did Brandi Carlile re-record it? She sang it with her wife or something, re-recorded it? Oh, I didn't know.

I mean, I haven't seen the Barbie movie yet, so I don't know if it's like that version and then also the indigo girls version or if it's just brandy's version i'm not sure i don't know either but we should definitely speculate for a little while longer on here oh man i'm gonna go see it i'm excited to see it yeah i auditioned for it to be a Barbie and then obviously didn't get it but they were like oh it got pretty far and then I said can I audition for Ken

and they said no and I was like call yourself progressive I think I'm not very good at auditioning in general I'm not good at auditioning million percent I'm not i'm always like can someone just offer me something thank you i became offer only long ago not because of success or being good but because i was so bad at auditioning that i couldn't bring myself to humiliate anyone including me anymore and so long ago people

would be like my reps you know she's offer only yeah i don't know that i've booked many things off of my auditions most of the things i've filmed have been offers i think if people can come and see you live then you're like isn't surely can that not be the audition like yeah you came to my show yeah i'm i'm no good you saw my stool pushing what else yeah well with certain projects you're like can't you see that i could probably do that right i've done these 10 other things but it's i, you've been on the other side of casting is so crazy. Like watching, I took a perverse joy in watching people audition and people coming in with their different energies

and like how they, some people coming in with this kind of really transparent overconfidence, even though they're, you know, physically shaking. And I just loved it. And seeing what the different things people do. I love seeing people shake. Is that twisted? I'm auditioning in front of Mae Martin today.

I'm freaking out. But all auditioning is scary, but people come in with such weird choices where they're like, is it okay if I drink milk for this scene? I think my character would drink milk. And you're like, wow, okay. Also, my character is lactose and you're like okay also my

character is lactose intolerant so it's just you'll see it pays off in the end hello well i i learned through this one casting experience that i was part of that it really is a crapshoot sometimes like i i remember watching an executive be like oh i don't really like their hair yeah and you were like what and then you're like that's that's the final straw yeah have you heard of haircuts or wigs yeah it was just like like really random things that we as actors think there's so much that goes into and there is in certain parts of course but that like oh you know if i just done this or this i'm like sometimes it's just like you look like what they want or you don't i think it's that a lot yeah

you either look like barbie or you look like ken we should we should all go see that dressed in pink oh it's so hard to schedule stuff we're all over the place but that'd be so fun if we all went in pink suits i do like a pink shirt what about pink gowns for all of us yeah pink gowns and tiaras gown can you imagine i would do that if you two committed. Rolling up into Barbie. Or if you told me that and then it was a prank and you guys didn't wear it. In my pink gown. I have a pink suit that I wore on the Mindy Project that was this Barbie color.

I wish I had it. I would escort you two to the Barbie movie. Why don't you give Mindy a ring-a-ding and see if you can get a hold of that pink suit. While you're at it, call Brandi Carlile and ask her about the details. That's right. Fortune's over there rolling calls. Should we seamlessly transition into this?

Yeah, for sure. All right. seamlessly transition into this yeah for sure all right well uh you guys we have a question from the lovely keenan thompson nice we all know and love from i've never met him i've never met him oh he's delightful he seems it yeah i was say, he seems like a delight. Yeah. I got to do his sitcom, his Kenan sitcom with him. Oh, okay. And I had met him just in passing before at SNL. Mm-hmm. And working with him, I was like, you talk about somebody who goes with the flow and

does not seem to get worked up about anything. Mm-hmm. He is like, everything just falls right off his shoulders. Like, totally easy going. That's so nice. Yeah, he's a good dude. Really sweet. Yeah, I just, I love him.

Now say something bad about him. Just for fun. I texted him. I was like, tell him about this podcast. He's like, that's so cool. Oh my God. I love this. Tell everybody I said him. I was like, tell him about this podcast. He's like, that's so cool. Oh, my God. I love this. Tell everybody I said hi.

So he sent us a question that I will play right now. Let's hear it. So here's the question. How long do you think it will be before we have a woman president? Do you think it will be under two election cycles or over two election cycles from now? So meaning like under eight years or over eight years? I'm Canadian. Oh, so May is going to sit this out.

I'm going to log off. I mean, listen, I wish we, I mean, I can't believe we haven't had that yet you know i wish i had a long time ago excuse me bless you please keep that in and that's why we can't have a woman president if you get elected you're gonna be sneezing all the time in these meetings and it just shows that you're fragile and crying man eight years would be crazy but yeah i guess well yeah it could be that long right yeah i mean it could be the problem is it could be like 60 years from now before it happens or it could be much shorter i think we're 16 years out sadly it definitely this last time showed how not ready a lot of america uh is for that like you people were like yeah i'm cool with women

and then you saw that like everything written online you're like yeah are you yeah i don't know it is crazy how the rest of the world is i mean how many other countries have have done it canada had a female prime minister but only for a few months then she got her period but yeah do you think people are still kind of triggered on some freudian level by women being in charge and it's like that basic that people are like stop nagging me to do things like my mom did like that it feels like like my there's um an amazing premier of scotland sounds right we don't know princess princess of scotland nicola sturgeon i remember like my family's super liberal and left wing and and she's of Scotland? Nicola Sturgeon? I remember, like,

my family's super liberal and left wing and she's amazing. Nicola Sturgeon did so much good. Very progressive. And her name came up. My dad was like,

ugh, I find her so annoying. And I was like, why? And he was like, I don't know, she never smiles. Like,

she's sort of, and so many men I know are like, ugh, Nicola Sturgeon. And she's just like, and so many men I know are like, oh, Nicola Sturgeon. And she's just like, great. Like she, yeah. Men are very, the whole women smiling thing,

really it's under their skin. It's crazy. Yeah. I'm not a real hit. You hear that a lot. She doesn't smile enough. You're like, what? I know.

When people are smiling all the time it's horrifying it's really sinister it is horrifying yeah they look like a kind of weather reporter like that fake kind of yeah no offense weather reporter fans no yeah but then if they're too bitchy that like resting bitch face that you hear they're like well she's me it's like you can't really win is the problem i know i know and they're just held to i do i do believe women are held to a different standard and there are a lot of men who i do believe feel like that you're somehow weaker i appreciate that you prefaced both of those points with i do believe i haven't done the research but what i've seen myself yeah fortune i i do believe i do believe

i do believe that is the truth it's infuriating i get like so worked up about it as much as you get worked up about anything as yeah which is that would be one of the things that gets me worked up for sure slightly cranky like your answers got a little curt yeah i yeah i was just annoying the the double standards you know it's like really are we still at this place where we're talking about these kind of things but we are unfortunately well you know stephanie oh i'm sorry oh please i'm so sorry i'm so sorry um stephanie and i sold a movie to netflix that was going to be me and jennifer aniston where she played the first female president and i was going to be the first lady first lady yeah yeah that's right are they like oh we sorry we're not doing sci-fi right now um yeah it was one of those projects that got just lost in the pandemic it just got man to the curb it'll be so perfect yeah that i love the idea the idea is my favorite movie like

if anyone asked me to make a list of my 10 favorite movies i'm still putting that on it because i know it would be my favorite movie oh my gosh we were so excited about it yeah yeah it just it crumbled like so many projects do you get so invested and excited but that was one actually and i i heard recently that netflix has a new tv series coming out about um the first gay male president that is um interesting yeah yeah shonda rhimes has a tv show that's starting on netflix that it's the gay male version of it but it's a tv show i don't know that it's the exact same thing but it's a TV show. I don't know that it's the exact same thing, but it's, it's still, um, you know,

and Jennifer Aniston's doing it in drag. I would guess we would have a movie about a female president before we have an actual female president. I agree. I mean, like if they're, they're banning abortion across the country, like why would we ever think that this population would trust a woman in charge

of a country if they won't trust her in charge of her own body am i right guys mate calm down i got sort of bored of myself halfway through the sentence because it's like we we know these things are right but we've just heard them so it's like banging. I saw a woodpecker in when I was in Big Sur recently, and it was just banging its little head against this wall of it was a side of a building. So it wasn't like it was going to be able to make anything in there. And it was just banging away. And that's what it feels like sometimes in the world. Now, was it banging its head or its beak?

That's a really good distinction. If it had turned its head sideways, it would just bash in its temple. I was going to say that's a different thing that was going on. And I would have interfered. And deranged. Tried to get the little bird some help. Yeah. Guys, I'm never in nature.

Just a sidebar. I'm like, wow, never in nature just to sidebar i'm like wow never in nature and and i know so many people have told me that they think i should be and that i really need that in my life and then i went to big sir and man it's those redwoods and i went into the forest and then i was on beaches didn't like it hated it no it was like magic i could not believe how quickly yeah and like my nervous system just chilled right out i found an old dried up uh river bed where the sand was like flecked with gold like that's it had i think real gold and like flex somebody's lying fortune yeah i've not heard one of the three of us is lying right now there's gold in the water yeah in the sand right yeah so it's like this old dried up in the kind of canyon and i swear the sand was like shimmering with specks of gold i

mean i like maybe someone just spilled glitter but it felt like somebody spilled gold i was like if there's actual gold our people in our country would have dug that entire beach up by now did you find a treasure chest nearby because oftentimes treasure chests wash up on beaches and it could have spilled out gold you ever seen the goonies hello that's true yeah it could have been just some dust from a treasure chest nearby but i did um i was like making out in the not with the gold like in the riverbank alone or what not with the person i went with and then i look up after we're finished and and i see and she's beautiful and she's she's covered in gold no uh i look up and there's like a family of wild deer like 30 feet from us literally watching us hook

up but um these beautiful deer and i was just like nature's amazing and and and you're like boobies. That's what the deer were thinking. Nature's amazing. Look at this specimen. You're so right. Yeah. They're like our gold trap works. We lured these. This sounds like a good trip into nature.

Oh, man, it was great. I saw bluebirds. Yeah, anyway, highly recommend Big Sur. Yeah, saw some boobs. Bluebirds and boobies boob birds do you find yourself in nature much fortune um not a lot not on purpose you're not a nature person i appreciate it and it's beautiful like i've been to big sir a number of times and i've gone fly fishing in the middle of Alaska.

It was one of my favorite trips I've ever taken. But I just don't, I'm not a big camper. I don't like camping that much. I like a hotel situation. Me too, me too. But if I find myself in nature, I love it. You know what I mean? Yeah.

What about you, Tig? I feel like with kids, you end up in nature a bit more. Like you're just outside more well yeah and i also enjoy you know hiking and boating and all of that i before i became vegan i loved to fish loved to fish and in fact we've kind of reached this point, one of our sons, since he was three, has been obsessed with wanting to fish. And he is, our whole family is vegan. So this is a whole new conversation. And we try to teach them our thoughts, ideas, feelings about veganism and animal cruelty and all those things but we also are trying to find the happy medium of when you say no with certain things and they want it more yeah that's true

yeah so yeah and also maybe i mean because you'd throw the fish back it's still cruel i guess but maybe they would actually find it too intense and then they wouldn't want to do it again maybe let them do it and see how how intense it is getting the hook out but man fishing is fun they got to come up with like the way clay pigeon shooting they just shoot clay up and you get to shoot that so you don't hurt a pigeon clay fish or something just throw some fake fish in yeah throw some fake fish in a pond well stephanie has an idea which i probably shouldn't say on here because it's a vegan fishing pole idea that she has that she's invented and so i can't announce it here don't

don't give away the patent yeah but well we can edit it out, but it's basically a f***. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah, that's nice. I love that. But yeah, I would say I enjoy the outdoors for sure. Yeah, I can't pretend like I am living, you know, off the grid. No, not at all. Not in the slightest bit. Have you hugged a tree?

Do you ever feel compelled to hug a tree? I have hugged a tree, but maybe I should do it again now that you mention it. Because all of those things of literally hugging a tree and lying on the ground and hugging the ground, lying in the sand, watching the water come in and out is supposed to really be healing and i believe it yeah you're going to colorado right and yeah you're gonna be in nature yeah oh do all that get up in the mountain it's all like scientifically proven too right like it's all yeah we need it yeah go up in colorado and i'll hug a tree for you yeah i'll hug a mountain yeah hug a mountain yeah who cares i'll wrap these arms

around a big old mountain but um you know female presidents and stuff oh yeah sorry yeah i did i did want to throw in this dilemma oh for for you guys yes so i it's one of those things where you're like, I'm this, but I'm also this, right? Barbie and Ken. It would be so cool to see a woman be president, right? But there is a woman who is probably going to be running, but she's a Republican, Nikki Haley. So in that case, like, oh, it's cool. You know what I mean? It's a real like oh what do you do i'll still wait i'll still wait it's there's some bleep remember sarah palin and you just don't it would be such a shame if the first one was a sort of uh with that creepy news weather reporter smile and but wanting to kill everyone it made for some good content on

keenan show sarah not live oh yeah sarah palin yeah yeah oh yeah who played sarah palin on s that was uh tina fey oh right right i can see russia from my house yeah oh my gosh how is it that she really said that that was the thing is. I remember that election being the Republicans were like, oh, we're going to really mix it up here. We got the perfect plan. And I remember when they announced her, I go, this is brilliant. And then she started talking, and then you're like, ugh. So on paper, whoever's idea was was pretty smart but then it's just the person they picked was not qualified in any

capacity what is she doing now didn't she run for governor and then didn't every kid in her family get pregnant yeah they've had a bit bit of drama they've had a bit of drama over there in alaska i think she got divorced maybe i don't know why would we fact check yeah that's true yeah let's say every kid in her family got pregnant what if i revealed that uh that's who i went to big sir with sarah payne that's who you were seeing nature's boobs yeah and she was just teaching me all these incorrect facts about nature i would love if she became if she just like all of a sudden was like i am a lesbian i'd be pissed i don't want her around you know what the tricky thing about like whenever you

have a conversation about uh what it would be like to have a female president or something like that it's like like, cause it's, it's all, I've read, I just read this book called the gendered brain about basically like reiterating that biologically there's no difference between our brains and cis men's brains and that it's all socialization and that like socialization can alter your hormone levels and stuff and affect biology.

But it's like, yeah, so really there should be no difference between what am i saying i don't know i just we're all ears i know and then i read that book it's pretty cool you're saying there you're saying based on that science there should be no difference in how someone would approach politics brain but there would be because of how we're all socialized, right? Well, like empathy and stuff is different based on socialization probably. Totally. Does politics, does that appeal to either of you? Do it?

In any capacity. I mean, before the 2016 election, i was pretty current on a lot of things i would read the news often and have a good sense of what was going on but after that election i it was so toxic i kind of had to stop following it as closely and now i kind of pop in and out of it but um it just got but also it's so many politicians now want to be famous yeah that they will do and say anything that to the detriment of people and it just is so it's very gross now it must be so important now for teachers and stuff to try to make kids not feel totally hopeless and overwhelmed. Because if I have thrown up my hands as well, and I'm totally not as informed as I should be just because I'm like, what's a joke? It's like all. Yeah, but you can't if everyone has that attitude, we're in real trouble. Like I, you know, around election time, I, I post a lot and go to things. But yeah, I really am not up to date. And do you feel like people in Canada have thrown their hands up as well? Or do they feel like they

feel like we feel solid over here? It feels like there's still some semblance of like sanity. I met Justin Trudeau. Did I have I talked about that? Yeah met him and um you know he's so hot and uh all of my friends were because I thought because I've been living in England for 12 years and I thought Justin Trudeau we all love Justin like he's a kind of sane world leader with you know pretty yeah reasonable views but all my friends were like oh you're meeting Justin Trudeau you got to hold him accountable for all of his um broken climate promises and things like that I was like oh fuck and I started reading about it I was like yeah he has been pretty disappointing and then so they'd arranged this meeting for for him to meet a bunch of people including me so I'm lined up and he's coming down the line and it was like

it was like seeing Tom Cruise like his magnetism and when he arrived and turned his attention on me every thought went out of my head i became like a blushing school child and i was like i i said the phrase to him your legacy will be great i don't know why i said that i i don't even believe that and i i said oh thanks for legalizing weed and he went well yep uh thanks for legalizing weed your legacy will be great i don't even smoke weed and he was like yeah that seems to be the thing that's captured people's imagination and then and then as he was leaving i kind of touched his elbow and went your legacy will be great and then in the picture of me with him my eyeballs are bulging out of my head and then all my friends were like yeah what'd you say to him did you did you ask him why i held

him accountable about the tar sands and the oil and i was like well he's pretty hot so i gave him a pass yeah he has something he's really i picture know, those really important quotes through history. And then it's like Albert Einstein. Yeah. Yeah, I picture that for you as well. It's going to be on shirts and on bumper stickers. Your legacy will be great. I mean, this is a guy who.

May Martin. That's on par with Bill and Ted's like, be excellent to each other. It's so stupid. And he is, I just sort of forgot that he's kind of, he is a little bit of a laughing stock a little bit. And those pictures came out of him in brown face. And then he apologized and was like, yes, I, you know, it was a long time ago in university.

But then he said something like, I have several times done that. Like he's done it a bunch of times which is yeah but in terms of world leaders you just you're so pathetically grateful for someone who's just sane and has some level of empathy and like you know he's always like marching in the pride parade and he's done a lot of great things too so yeah i mean i don't know much about her actual politics but i was always enamored with jacinda from new zealand yeah ardor ardor but she bailed ardent uh she just yeah she's done now but she was always pretty charismatic i was amazing i was like can we get one of those yeah and you

know who was really great and this is years ago not a president but the governor was ann richards in texas she her daughter is uh cecile richards oh for planned parenthood yeah but ann richards man she was on the cover she was probably like 70 years old the cover of texas monthly magazine on a harley in full yeah and like a beehive and like uh and then a full white motorcycle uh you know leather motorcycle outfit and um i mean she was just i i lived in te in Texas when she was governor. And in fact, Holland Taylor did a one person show about Ann Richards. Oh, I always wanted to see her play. Yeah. I never got to.

I didn't see it live, but I watched it on PBS. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I thought it was on PBS. It was so good. And Holland wrote the whole thing oh really yeah that's amazing holland would be it has a presidential quality she should be president absolutely but it's i feel like any person that would inspire us doesn't want that job now right

like it attracts yeah yeah so that's the hard part it's like who wants to deal with it and does power corrupt and like i yeah that's maybe that's what i was trying to get out before about the gendered brain is like if it was all a matriarchal society would that power eventually like would there be just as many wars and stuff because all we would i don't know i don't think the rock will the rock will be president before a woman is president probably i think that's possible i think he'd do an all right job to be honest yeah i heard that that's why he doesn't have crazy sex scenes in any of his movies like he's kind of asexual even when he does when he kisses someone in his movies often it's like the back of his head it's really interesting

huh and i think it's because his team of his head. It's really interesting. And I think it's because his team wanted him to run for president one day, and so they're trying to keep him. Are you serious? Yeah, I read an article about it. I have not ever heard that, but now I'm going to go watch all of his movies. Where did you read this?

Well, I can't even imagine. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if your rep sat you down and said, listen, we want you to consider running for president. And so any sex scenes or kissing, we want all camera angles to be coming in from behind. I wouldn't have that foresight. I don't know if I'd ever stop laughing.

It would be like when people came to you, Tig, and said, we want you to be on Real Housewives. I still think about that maybe happening, you and Stephanie being on Real Housewives of LA. Yeah. Wait, was that a conversation? Yeah, yeah. It just would have been incredible seeing you surrounded by this chaos.

You would just be like, what's going on here? As I am in every situation. It is the metaphor of the guy screaming at you and you just going, what? It's like you on Housewives. All these fights and you just like sipping water in the background going, what? I don't know what's happening, but. There'd be like a restaurant scene and some woman like flips a table over and they're screaming. You just pan over and you're just dragging a stool.

Yeah, hugging a tree and dragging a stool. Well, I'm going to take my stool right out of here. Should we hear what Kenan has to say? Yeah, let's hear what Kenan said. My answer, I think it will be under. Oh, good answer. Very confident about that. So he's thinking in the next eight years

there might be a woman president. He doesn't sound thrilled about it. It sounds like he kind of dozed off and then i gotta answer this question and then someone tapped him and he's like eight years yeah under under eight years well hillary clinton tried she got you know as close as anyone's gotten yeah that didn't happen i think she's probably out i don't think she's gonna do it again did any of you oh i'm sorry go ahead may no you go i was just gonna ask if anybody threw a party when those results were coming in for hillary or attended a party

no i i stayed at home because i was like I can't face whatever is about to happen. Okay, because we were, like so many others, confident she was our next president. And we threw a party. And we had little... Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's so sad. Like, had cookies and just we were ready to...

I mean, that's the sign of a good party, you know? You got cookies. And we have pictures of the beginning of the night. Oh, no. And we have pictures at the end of the night where everyone was lifeless. Yeah. Just lying there stunned. You're like, history is about to be made.

Glass ceiling is getting broken, baby. And you know there was a glass ceiling ready to be broken oh really yeah she had a glass ceiling that they were gonna shatter yeah symbolically oh my and then it was not broken it's the ceiling remains yeah oh my god they just gently put it away i was hopeful but i had toured so much and seen so many trump signs that i was i was not as much in the bubble as everybody else i was like yes same fortune yeah i remember telling people i was like i don't know i think he's gonna i think he's gonna win i mean of course i was hopeful and people thought i was crazy but i do think crazy too i was like you guys have been out there yeah i'm in all these towns and all these cities and i'm telling you yeah it's not what you think yeah put the glass ceiling away i was in in england and i remember having to do a

comedy show that night and showing up and expecting everyone to be, like all the comics are there, I think all dudes. And I was like, well, obviously we're all depressed. And they were like, what, why? I was like, Trump. And they were like, oh, right. Like it wasn't on their radar even. I was like, this is bad for the world.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the glass ceiling remains. And Nikki Haley probably, I mean, I think she'll end up running whether or not she gets the nomination for the part their party i'm not sure uh and then there's as i don't know if like anyone like aoc or it would ever consider it i'm not sure who in the democratic party i loved elizabeth warren i mean i didn't really i don't know her but i don't know her

personally but i've met her yeah she seemed good to me she had some momentum and then it got deflated pretty quick yeah so i don't know i don't know what it takes to get to that like maybe we just got to get jennifer aniston to just run for president oh we need the pr team behind the barbie movie and jennifer aniston i will say whoever came up with the marketing for barbie they definitely should run the next campaign because i barbie was everywhere i'm inundated every airport every restaurant in australia and new zealand and back here i was like whoever's in charge of this they need to yeah get hired for many things i read that all these people have been complaining that when they're watching the

barbie movie they can hear in the adjacent theater the atomic bomb going off in oppenheimer it's really bumming us out and then because it's so loud and Christopher Nolan like explosive but weird cultural moment that it's like guys Barbenheimer weekend like Barbenheimer well maybe Barbie is paving the way for our next female president yeah it was like the biggest grossing movie of the year for sure and well we'll see what happens no one can predict the future but obviously we would like to see that happen at some point. A female president or someone predicting the future?

A female president. Both. I want to see a lady in charge. Yeah. Okay. Big time. And we're all going to sync up. Boom.

Uh-huh. Well, this has been a lovely chat podcast, lovely chat with you guys can't deny it thank you keenan yeah thank you keenan question thanks keenan and for your optimism for a woman in charge may do you have anything you'd like to promote always love to promote um i will be at largo in los angeles on the 13th uh with amazing guests like nicole byer and meg stalter and stephanie allen and alana johnson and then also on the 16th and 17th me and stephanie allen and alana are doing our long form weird improv show at the elysian theater and there's still tickets left. Fortune, do you have anything to promote?

Yes, May. I'm currently on tour coming to lots of cities like this weekend in San Antonio, Texas and New Orleans. Then coming up, I've got places like Spokane, Boise, Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Oakland, California, Evansville, Indiana, Dayton, Ohio, and Charleston, West Virginia. Fortunefeamster.com for tickets. Tig?

I will be in Torrington, Connecticut, September 15th, Rochester, New York, September 16th, Wilmington, Delaware, September 17th, Colorado Springs, September 25th, Breckenridge, Colorado, September 28th, Breckenridge, Colorado, September 28th. And I will be doing a European tour in October. Check my website for all information. And then I'll be back in the States, October 28th, La Crosse, Wisconsin. And then finally, November 4th, Brooklyn, New York, King's Theater for my next special taping. Thanks for listening to the Handsome Pod and keep it handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Mae Martin, Tig Notaro and Fortune Feimster. The show is produced, recorded and edited by Thomas Ouellette.

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