Handsome - Michelle Obama & Craig Robinson ask about siblings

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson are an iconic sister/brother duo... and now they're asking Handsome to share stories about their siblings! Plus naming Tig's new standup tour, a Handsome dance, a frog jumping over Mae's foot, Fortune getting in a tussle, and more!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Cheers. Cheers to you. And you. And you. Thank you. Thank you. We need to tell people. Oh, yeah, let's welcome people. Welcome to the handsome pod. Welcome. I'm Fortune Febs, sir. I'm Tignotaro. I'm May Martin. Yes. We're together. We are together. And I just wanted to share. Classic May moment that happened before we were filming. No, cheer. I was excited. I was excited. We are too. We are. We are. You said, I can't believe it. I can't believe we're together. I know, we haven't, we haven't been in the same room for a while. A while, because we've all been touring or working or filming or traveling with all kinds of stuff. I guess it is like for a kid, you know, like if you said, oh, it's only January. Christmas isn't for a whole year.

They're like, well, that's Christmas is never going to happen. And then it happens again like every year and you're like, I can't believe it. Yeah. It's Christmas. Well, that's what I was saying is you sounded like it was Christmas morning to you when you're like, I can't believe it. It's good to see you guys. It's good to see you guys.

And then we have nothing to talk about. Well, anyway. Well, I'd like to share that the Andrea Gibson and Meg Fowley movie that I produced, come see me in the Good Light. The trailer is out. I know it is because when I came in this morning, Fortune was weeping. Because you guys have just watched the beach. trailer and I was like I know what that's about because I almost watched it in the car and I thought I can't

you knew better I can't cry right now yeah yeah I've already been I've been so tired the last few days just overworked and when I get overworked I can cry at the drop of a hat and you put a trailer like that in front of me yeah and I was like I was I'm fine I'm fine and then I'm like tears no I'm not it looks beautiful if you ever are trying to get an Oscar are you ever do you ever trying to do that or? Oh, boy, do I want to try to get an Oscar? Then you've got to just stay up all night and then you'll be in floods of tears. Honestly, that would be my best work. Yeah. Yeah. Even if it's a comedy. Yeah. Fortune's unhinged again. Yeah. It did look amazing. I I cannot wait for it to come out. Thanks. I'm so proud of it. It's very, as I was saying, I've seen that

trailer obviously 10 million times yeah and uh but the first time i saw it i was so emotional and for some reason it was one of the first moments that made me feel like andria was actually gone which i haven't i of course know andria passed away but i think when somebody leaves behind so much art the way Andrew I mean it's just it

yeah and also it's it's yeah it's just it's so packaged up so beautifully and that it feels like there's a finality

to it because of the nice music and everything yeah when I was saying to take it also it's probably tough seeing Andrea so alive when you watch it

that you just go oh my gosh I can't believe that that is not the case Yeah. And then today when it, when, you know, everybody's, the trailer came out and it's posted, it's like, I mean, this whole situation has been such a compartmentalized joy. Yeah. Because it's such a beautiful film about beautiful people. But yeah, when the trailer came out today, it's like, God, Andrea is gone. Yeah. And Andrea, not just doesn't get to experience the movie coming out to the masses, but just Andrea being gone. It's like, ugh. But so anyway, I'm...

Bittersweet. Yeah, it's very bittersweet. I mean, I'm sure that's also the stages of grief, too, that will keep unfolding for a while. Do you think those are legit, the stages of grief? Are they still around? People say, like, you go, like, have you hit angry yet? Like, do you have to hit all of them? I don't know that you have to, but I think they roll out in different ways, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I think, like, angry, I mean, it's not, I wasn't, like, turning desks over and, like, punching walls. That would be so wild if that's how you expressed yourself. Yeah, that's not. Um, yeah, I think I have moments of anger, like, I don't know if it's anger. just disappointment in myself like with maybe I've mentioned before

that I had this fantasy for a long time of creating like a tour with Andrea. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Like a poet, a musician, a comedian, an artist, like just do such a and it was...

So you're frustrated at yourself of just... Yeah, where I'm like, why why was I putting that off? You know, it's something I would mention to Stephanie over the years, probably once twice a year, I'd be like, I should put that thing together and be such a

fun show. It's a show I'd want to see. Yeah, I like a mix of disciplines. Yeah, I like that. Like, at their best. Yeah, yeah. And, or not. What a great show that would be. Oh, my gosh. Mediocre comedian. I was not at their best.

This wouldn't be front row. It's called Not at Our Best. Oh my gosh. Maybe that's my new tour with my new material. Not my best. Oh, my God. But I'm happy to be here. That's kind of like bulletproof because no one can review it badly.

You go, I told you. Yeah, I said. This was not my best. You knew what you were coming for. Oh, boy. That's my new. That was my new tour. I am actually in the process of trying to name my tour.

Tell me about it. But like not at your best, I would be front row for that circus. Oh my gosh. You know, my tour just went on sale and I had to name it before I've written it. So I named it the possum. I don't have any material about this possum. But I don't think you need that. I think it can just be all-encompassing.

Yeah. Thematically? Yeah. About possums? Don't ever mention a possum. It's all the better. That would be good, yeah. Because people will, you'll never lose their attention.

They'll be waiting for the possum story. The whole time. Never comes. Yeah. And then they'll think, did I miss something? Yeah. They'll buy the album. See, the specs, they'll be like, I'm sure there's a mention of a possum.

Yeah, there'll be fan theories being like, well, if you take the second word out of every. Well, and you know there is a country music, I think I've told you this, a country music singer, George Jones, who is known as the possum. I did not know that. Okay. Why did that cause a hand dance? I was looking for a pen. And the possum. Everyone to the possum.

I love that song. Oh my gosh. That's a new handsome dance, the possum. Look at a lot. Yes. I love that. Everyone's getting ideas for their tour. And I like that you're saying,

wait, this is the tour. No, the writing the down of the George Jones. But I like that you're saying this is a new handsome dance like we have many. We have so many handsome dancing. Well, we had the electric slide. We have the electric. We have the electric. Wegu, wiki, wiki.

That's right, my friend. But now it's do the possum. Yeah. Speaking of expressing anger. Yes. Boy, did I ever last week. Oh, you went to that thing. I'm back.

You're a changed person. Well, first of all, you're the number one star in Hollywood right now. So let's not. Well, let's be clear. Let's be queer. Let's be queer. I was briefly the number one search on IMDB. I think largely because people were like, what, what is this?

They were curious. That's just an actual person. That's what that star thing is? The star rating is people are looking you up? It's how many people are looking at. So I think it was just people being like. What did you think it was? I really didn't know, like how many things you're on or something.

Or it was God saying. Viewed or something. I really didn't know. Yeah, I think it's just the number of, and I think a big part of it is people being like, Does it have a penis or what? That's the Google search. Does it have a penis?

That's the number one star meter search. Does it have a penis? But yeah, that was a weird time to give my phone away for a week. Yeah. Can I tell you about this experience? Please. Because I got it. I'm actually not interested.

Is there something else we can talk about? Yeah, what else is there? I think you have to listen. All right, let's hear it. Well, also, I don't want to like, I'm supposed to. to, you know, guard the experience closely and not, like, overshare it. And I don't want to, you know, you sign an NDA. Tell us everything.

Okay, basically. So, no, I won't say where I went, but I went to, like, a, it's a nonprofit therapy retreat. Part of me was hoping, like, there'll be a masseuse. Oh, like a hot person you can get down with? No, no. Oh, fortune, Marie. Oh, that's an interesting insight into you. No, Mae likes the fuck.

It is 80. 45. Am I wrong? I don't know May's personal business in that way. I thought you were like, wouldn't this be fun if while I'm trying to learn about myself, I also. May, tell us what happened. Tell us what happened. Thank you.

So I get there and, well, the first thing that happened was the night before a toad hopped over my foot. So I thought, yeah, what does that mean? Good omen. Good omen, no? Do we know that as a fact? Is that a may fact? Well, first things first, a toad hopped over my phone. So I was in the parking lot of the Quality Inn the night before.

I was like, I'm nervous. Let's stop. Why did you have to say the Quality Inn? Of course, a toad hopped over your foot in the room. At the Quality Inn. It was grimy. And there were all the trucks parked there had like Trump signs on. And there was a big group of guys drinking in the.

parking lot. Why did you stay there? Are you not Trump? I wanted to be close to the place because you got to be there. So I had to fly to it's, well I won't say. Oh, yeah, don't say. But then I'm in the parking lot of the Quality Inn having a cigarette. Sounds terrible. It was not quality. Well, we have it was, it was scary. This is the retreat? No, no, no, no. You have days of frogs. You're playing leap frog while you smoke in the parking lot. With a bunch of Trump supporters. This sounds like a dice you start. Yeah, it was a dicey start

So I'm having a cigarette And a little toad hops over my foot So I think Got it the first time Yeah, I think I'm in the right place The next morning I get my Uber I drive up the path To this retreat center

And it's like It's a bit like summer camp A bit like Hospitally and I have a little monastic Little room with like a single bed And anyway I go and check in I actually don't either What is it?

Really? You weren't going to speak up? You were going to let it I didn't want to be two against one, and now it's two against one. Yeah, monastic like monk-like. Oh. Like a monk's austere. We knew that. Yeah, we totally knew that.

Anyway, monastic. So I go in, I give my phone in, and I go, I'm trying to make friends. I go, this is crazy. Can't believe we're doing this. Turn around. There's one woman there. And I knock a really expensive vase over with an orchid in it. It must have been expensive if it's pronounced Voss.

Yeah, a vase is not as expensive. Yeah, that you can do. Those are disposable. You would say vase? We're, we're southern, so we wouldn't say that. I'm not going to, Thomas? You're fancy. I would say Vos.

Okay, because you're a fancy Canadian. You're not Americans. We get it. Oh, we're from Canada. So far I've had the toad, and then I've knocked over and smashed a vase with an orchid as my like intro anyway it was crazy i think overall it was it was good i had a lot of time to think and but it was pretty grueling it was like nine a m or get up at seven a m and then do this program until nine p.m i won't go into a huge detail but there oh and you

paid for this i paid for it a lot i'm sure you know what it wasn't oh gosh it wasn't crazy And you know what? It's cool because it's a nonprofit. 20% of people there are there on scholarship. Oh, okay. I like that. Are they equally as miserable? And do they have to pretend that they're not because they're there for? It felt like the people who came because they have problems accessing their emotions and want to rediscover a sense of play, they blossomed. I have no problem accessing the emotions. If anything, I need. Like, so. But you know what was? Let's say my favorite part was, I come in one morning, there's a pillow and a baseball bat, and I spent... You love that. I love a pillow and a baseball bat. I beat the shit out of this pillow for 45 minutes without stopping, and you're not allowed to stop it.

I went into some primal infant... Wait, this is something that was an exercise to do there? In the room with everyone, we all had earplugs in, and I'm beating the shit out of this pillow and crying and crying. screaming like it was wild i lost my voice my hands were bleeding like i was like oh yeah i'm pissed wow but did you know i never express anger like i haven't raised my voice since i was about 10 really yeah and do you think that was just like an accumulative anger just come finally coming out or were you angry about something specific you don't have to tell us somebody specific you so you what you were having to do with the pillow it was that fucking

I mean, as long as you were able to pinpoint what it was, I think that's helpful. It was multiple things, but yeah, we did, and we did a lot of that kind of thing. At one point, halfway through the week, I was pretty close to leaving. I packed up my little bag. I thought, you know what, this feels like... Little Cowboys' little bag? And when I say little, it was massive. Of course.

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Netflix. I got to get out of here. I was just like, what am I doing here? Like, this is supposed to be such an exciting moment of my life. And I'm here sobbing, like, in the woods with strangers. Like, is this punitive? You know what I mean? Right. When you first arrived, though, were you like, hey, guys, I'm so happy to be here. Oh, 100%. Yeah. And I will say, I'm glad I stuck it out. Because by, because that night I thought, I'm going to leave. I couldn't sleep. And then I got up and it was a full moon. I went walking through the woods. I saw. deer. I saw a rabbit. And then I find this stone labyrinth. And I actually thought about Andrea. Because I was thinking where are my guides at? And I was thinking about my grandma. I thought, Andrew, you're around. I get to the middle of this labyrinth of stones. And in the middle is a big live toad that's just ribbiting at me in the moonlight. And I thought, all right, I'll stay. After you've already had a toad hop over you? Yes. You see another one? Thank you. Yes.

In the middle of the swirley, too. Because you know what that means. No. Oh, nobody does. When you find a frog in the middle of a swirly-doo in the woods, what does it mean? I think it meant stay, but in a toad, like, stay. Yeah. And then so I did stay, and I'm glad I did, because by the end, okay, the main thing I took away, there's just 40 people in this group, all different demographics, people in their 70s, 40s, 40s. all the ages and different jobs.

No, keep going. As I said, I'm like, why do I pick those two? 40s, 60s, 50s, 30s. Any 20s? I don't think there were any 20s, actually, yeah. Anyone in their hundreds? One, 102-year-olds. She's like, I have some things to work on before I get out of here.

I'm really into self-help. I just, a few more things. Express my anger. You're like, you're 102. I think you're just fine. Yeah.

And by the end of it, I was like, oh, we're all just toddlers. Like, I felt really bonded to these people by the end of it.

I was like, oh, you did? I did by the end, yeah. Just the program was. Yeah, you're going through crazy shit and you're not allowed

to talk about your work or. You couldn't promote weight word. I couldn't promote weight word. Or the handwork. Or the handsome dog? Or your dog? Or my dog? I could not.

Oh my God. What about Fortune's Tour? I know. Taking care of business. What if you were talking about? Your friend's podcast, handsome. You know what I find helpful. Also, nobody recognized me except one woman on day one.

They had just said, you're not allowed to talk about your work. And then this woman goes, are you that comedian? And then I... But you went in, like, at the beginning of... the beginning of the whatever retreat like what 4,000 on star meter

and then you came out number one I don't check my star meter digs over there refreshing I'm following you on IMTV she tracks everyone star rating what if you found that out

that was really do you have a spreadsheet or we could just test you you go Tom Hanks you're 12 oh my god I was obsessed with people's star meters oh my god so yeah overall by the end we were we were tight and um who was your favorite person well I got to say because in in the big I was the only queer person and I was the only person who smoked and so once a day I'd go and have my cigarette you're allowed to smoke there you're allowed to go and have your smoking let me say by day three

A lot of women in their 50s and 60s going, you got to smoke? Can I have bum one? Were they flirting with you? No. They just needed a break. Yeah, we were bonded. So I think there were a handful of people I got tight with, for sure.

Here's my question. And you got hooked on cigarettes. Yeah, right, yeah. Tell me how each of us would do individually at this. Good question. Thank you. Thank you. I always wait for that from you.

Like, picture fortunate. and they're beating that pillow. I can't imagine that. I think you both, I had to totally switch off any sense of irony about it. Oh, yeah. Like, I was like, I paid for this. I'm here.

I got to commit. And it commit to the experience. I wonder what I was doing when you were beating that pillow. There was one day I'd beat it with a sledgehammer instead of a back. Wait, it was multiple days of beating this pillow? There was a lot of beating. Wow, this must have been a thick pillow. A lot of visualizations, though,

as well and like um i just see it going straight through the pillow what do you think you were doing when may was beating that pillow like i was crying myself because i was so tired like the last five days yeah and when i get overly tired like we talked about i am weepy yeah i'm just a dumb bitch. That's fun. Excuse me. Don't talk about your friend like that. That takes one. I'll talk about my friend like that. So yeah, I was probably crying. I think you guys if you could get out of your own way, like if you were just like, there's no one I know here. I may as well just go for it. I think you can commit. I could commit to an experience like that. I think so.

I don't know about this one. There were. I don't either. Yeah. This one's leaving on day one. Look, I love a retreat. You know, I love deep breathing. I I love meditation. I love veganism. I'm perfect for this. How's the food? That would be my determining fact. So good, actually.

Oh, see how I would say. Farm fresh. To be honest. Farm fresh biscuits. Farm fresh biscuits. Sign me up. What was like a revelation to me was what I already knew going in, which was like, if you sleep eight hours a night, you eat three meals a day of fresh food and you don't look at

your phone, you're going to feel good. And you did. I felt great. got back home right back into the old patterns for sure but I took a lot from it what did you take well that we're all the same I took a bag of fresh biscuits I snuck them out what was the takeaway well it's still percolating but I think like I think it was identifying what's mine and what's other people's you know releasing some some shame some you know shame you knew you had or shame where you're like

that's the thing that's the thing we all know it we all know and everyone's the same that it was really reassuring everyone is like I'm mad at my parents but also I love my parents and I feel guilt and I feel you know I don't think I'm attractive enough or smart enough like we are all the everyone has those I think do we probably to some extent yeah like just complicated sort of little toddlers. For sure. Yeah, yeah. So that was nice, I guess, to realize.

And all of those things that your personality and body, everything kind of just becomes a little, yes. Like, get you through life and your... It was picking apart all that and being like, what's my authentic, like, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was one moment where I thought you guys would have been like, I'm out, which was we'd had a

really intense morning. I was feeling like, I'm not sure about this. And then they said, don't worry, we're going to have a really fun afternoon. And then it was a lot of like square dancing. Pretty much. It was a lot of, a lot of, like play. Me too. Like play. And then they go, guys, you have 45 minutes. We're going to meet in the classroom. And you guys are going to put on a sketch comedy show. And I thought put a bullet in my brain. That is painful. I was painful. After I've just been so raw beating up this thing, I'm like, I am fucked up. And now I got to do a comedy show. Put your wig on.

It was wild, yeah. And you did it. Oh, I did it. And it, you know. Were you funny? No, not remotely. Not remotely. But everyone else was.

And it was really nice seeing how. And I thought I am lucky that my job involves a sense of play. And like, that's not hard for us to access, I feel. So the other people, they made you laugh and they were. Yeah, they were, because we were playing the teachers and playing each other. Like we were, and people were really going for it in that maybe, because it was seeing like people in their 70s who were, there's a, someone, you know, from all different places. That 102 year old was hilarious. She was hilarious to see her fake mustache.

Anyway, I feel, I also, I feel like, I only know my. experience of it which was overall very positive and I'm grateful for it and I've noticed as I've told the story this week I've got more cynical and I'm going for the laughs whereas when I first got back I told my roommate all about it and I the raccoon yeah I told the raccoon all about it yeah and he said that I he's like oh it sounds like you had a great time and then he heard me retell it like four days later he was like when you got back you loved it and now the more you tell it you're going for the punchline that's interesting isn't it isn't I wonder what that is. Yeah, I think I'm just used to. Real growth. Yeah. Now, tell me this. Was there somebody there at

the retreat where you're like, whoa, they are in it and believe in it? And they are like, you know, because if you decide, I'm going with this and I'm going to get something out of this and, yeah, no cynicism, just. Yeah, I can't, yeah, I'll tell you later. Was it so fun to watch that person? It was the whole thing was riveting I'll say like if I ever got in my head I thought well there's all these people I would never have met and they are having wildly different experiences and committed and it was riveting was there somebody that drove you insane and then you ended up going oh I understand their trauma and their life and I get it I'll see that was part of the program where they said if there's anyone who sort of triggered you when you know

based on pretty much nothing because we're exploring like negative transference like in your life there's people that just make you like God and it's like is that what is that? So I was thinking now there's this guy that is I don't know

I yeah like you don't know why or you did know why he's only really talking to the other men and like he's he said a couple of things that anyway so I write it down and then they go okay now you're going to go tell that person to their face. Oh, God, that would hate that.

I know. Because I'm a people pleaser. Yeah, me too. So you went and told this guy? I had to sit down in front of him with a T-shirt. I love this. I know. You would love it.

It was juicy. That's your jam. And the person who's being told it is not allowed to respond. They just have to be like. Oh, God. And so I, and it's like structured like a script. So I'm like, I experienced you as, you know, potentially judging me, because of this thing that you said

about in this thing and blah blah blah meanwhile your life is going nuts online you're the number one star in the world but go ahead I'm in the woods with your star meters your star meter is ticking up F takes tracking the entire journey and you're like

the second I saw you my skin was crawling and then you know and then I say and that is a pattern that I got from this place and I take responsibility for my experience and so it was fascinating and he's just like okay and of course yeah by the end we're hugging and and we were so

much closer having had that exchange like by the end yeah and I thought nobody's going to have a problem with me let me tell you oh several two people no one could stand you let me tell you everyone least favorite person you were number one on the star meter of two's not bad how many people are we talking about we were only allowed to receive people there. You're only allowed to. That's good they're at a limit. Here's my final question.

I could talk to you about this forever. Yeah. If Fortune and I were like, oh my gosh, this is so interesting. We really want to go. Can you go with a friend? No. You'd have to. That was a good question, too.

That was a great question. You could lie about it. Because what if we were in the same room beating a pillow? I know. You guys would be like, you'd be winking at each other. Get that pillow. Get that pillow. No, I think, yeah, no one that you know and, but man, it was, it was fascinating.

Yeah. All right. Look at you. Anyways, I feel, I hope I've been respectful about the experience and, um. Well, you haven't, but, but here's the thing is, I think it's awesome that even if, even if you didn't leave with what you hope that you left with. Yeah. That you left with something. I really did.

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just saying that for our audience and uh and sit there and we laugh with everyone around there and then go back to to on set laugh there uh which i really needed because i just was really you know i i've just been a little emotional lately just uh yeah i think about my mom has been kind of finally cashing up to me yeah but that that is amazing that you have this place you can go where you kind of you will with you have to compartmentalize you have to be present and you're laughing and and and you got farm fresh biscuits I did not get farm fresh biscuits but yeah I wouldn't I hadn't seen my mom in like a month and a half because of of work and then I went and she had not had a good week and

I just been very nauseous and just like really tired and I was like like I'm going to get to swing through there just like two days. I was stuck in the Boston airport for nine hours. I was following this on Instagram. What the hell happened? I had a show in Boston, which was amazing. It was so incredible at the

Wang. Were you posting it on stories or something? Just a couple pictures like here four hours in it. We deplane twice. The airport was a mess because there was a storm coming through. So my first delay was that the plane delayed coming in. Then we got on the plane, taxied out,

sat forever then they're like the windshield wipers broken go back in that's it then you're like windshield wiper that's what I can't stand when a flight is like we're having mechanical or tech whatever problems I'm like what is it is it the windshield wiper or the wind fell off right let's get specific yeah that is really creepy but it's like don't go far because we you know and so you can't really like you can't go like have a you know meal or something and and then we get back on it finally again now we're like five hours into this and then we taxi out and they're like now bad news now this has happened we go back in uh and then finally they gave us a new aircraft but it was there for

nine hours what if on the side of the plane you realize it said student flyer then i'm grateful for the nine hour uh delay that they could get a real pilot but did you bond with any of the other people i just like staring into space i was just so when i got to the airport I was on my I just was so tired yeah that I called my mom this is when I know I'm beyond yeah and I just am crying my mom in there for I put my hoodie on oh people are recognizing me and I'm turning my head and I just look like this is like so I'm already ready to get to her yeah to just like shut it all down and not have to you know just like yeah not be anything just like lay on my mom's couch

and just chill and then I'm stuck for nine hours so I'm already in this bad space and it just so I get to the point where I'm just like catatonic and then I finally land and I go to my mom's and we have a late dinner

but yeah I just you know it's she she's always in good spirits but you can tell it's like taking a toll on her and the chemo's not doing what we want it to do and you just kind of go i just think it all finally caught up to me where i was like i'm sad about this of course and uh you know she's like i don't want you worry about me and

yeah yeah yeah it's impossible not to so um that's tough portion where's that pillow yeah get get a bat and a pillow yeah so i'm just uh you know just i wanted to hopefully the thank you I just want to be okay And you know, it's still She's still fighting the good fight I mean, she's not going away right now But you start to think about the what-ifs And what if this doesn't do anything ever

Thanks Thomas And what does that look like And thank you Tom And but it was nice to just be around her And you know, it's just that thing of like Realizing your parents are getting older and um this is sometimes what happens with that journey so yeah i i mean just putting it out there and you know there's people i don't know if you or your mother would be open to it but

there are people that can like insert themselves into the conversation with a family who's dealing with like serious health issues um and and having a third person to talk to in like I met this woman she she runs this organization that does this and I reached out to her when Andrea was ill and just like you know like how do you yeah because it's such a universal experience but when you're in it you're like what do I say how do we handle this yeah what's yeah and and I mean I can get you her number if And it's just something to keep in your back pocket until or if you want it. But it's like it's so crucial to just to keep conversations open.

And I'm just endlessly floored by the people that do that kind of work. Yeah. But anyway, it's it's just something I wanted to put out there. And that's really just. It's a lot to navigate on your own. Yeah. I think at first that it was just kind of like. like this is what is what is happening yeah these are the facts she has this we're gonna get

through it yeah and then i think this week i was just like this isn't it good yeah yeah you know as simple as that sounds i was just like uh oh yeah and um yeah but anyway we have to get to our question but i it'll be okay and yeah i will not keep compartmentalizing and just face it yeah Hit the pillow. Hit the pillow, cry the tears. One of the things, and this is kind of abstract, but it was such a beautiful moment in Andrea's documentary where their ex-girlfriend who is one of their best friends, Bethy, was going through an intense experience with her father and called Andrea in the middle. of it and Andrea said just call everything love everything you're feeling everything that's happening just call it love and bethie said that when she applied that to the moment and again it's

it's a little abstract but it's coming from a poet yeah but it i think it's a really beautiful thing in in hard moments to um to call everything love yeah i like that again i don't know if you remember that moment but um yeah but yeah i will try that thank you yeah should we kiss should we call it love oh well thank you how do i cry again it's tough i've cried with you guys since the last time I saw you on the It's when we're here. It's this couch. Well, we haven't seen each other in person.

Also, it feels like a therapy couch. It feels like you're our couple's therapist. But we do have to get to our question because it's very exciting. It is. Yes, it is very exciting. Yeah, this is such a cool honor to have our question askers that we have today. Yes, I know. We're going big.

We have. We've gone really big today. We're basically at the top of big. We're kind of at this IMDB. IMD. We've gone high. I mean, that's a little teaser. We've gone high.

Yeah, not low. We've gone high. Oh, we've gone high. Today's question askers are siblings who grew up together in Chicago. One sibling is a lawyer and author who served as the first lady of the United States. The other currently serves as the executive director of the National Association of Basketball Coaches. Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson are asking. today's question.

Nice. How cool. What an honor. Yes. Hey, handsome. Craig Robinson and my little sister Michelle here. We host a new podcast called IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson. We are such big fans of handsome.

You guys keep us laughing every week. Now we know you all have siblings yourselves, but we don't know enough about them. Here is our question. what's one of your favorite childhood memories with a sibling oh that's so cool that's crazy and of course their video is shot gorgeously that's the most professional video question yeah it really is it was like so good yeah yeah oh my gosh oh I aspire look at us we're just like all over the We're all over there, train racks, trainers. I might have wrinkled shirt.

They're throwing pillows at each other. Her episode, I'm like, I could have steamed that shirt. Oh, that's cool. They have a podcast together. Yeah. I've been seeing, I've listened to it. It's really cool, and I've seen a lot of clips on the old TikTok. And they had Barack on there as a guest.

Hard get. How'd they get him? How'd they get? How'd it be like if you guys had a podcast, with your sibling like what would oh my gosh what would that dynamic be well my brother comes from sports radio oh no yeah so this is like his world yeah he's podcasted he he does play by play oh my god um he does all well we're coming at yeah uh let's follow that through should i well we're coming up on well we're coming up on a big season here uh we got a couple of

rounds coming a couple of rounds coming in fast a couple rounds coming in fast and uh no no slow rounds coming up from behind we got a couple slow rounds as well oh yeah um okay so you'd maybe do a sports well i would imagine it might be my my initial response or thought would be it would be my brother telling me about sports me having a bunch of questions i like that yeah yeah all right so i guess maybe i'll pitch that to head gum well my brother Arizona fishing business together called Southern Kingfish Association. So they do some podcasting stuff. No way. From fishing tournaments. Wow. But where would you fit in? Are they coming I mean, I would try to make the fishing this more exciting because I'm like, what? We're just

going to hear about fishing. I am truly one of those people that could watch, and this is a bad vegan, but I could, I love fishing shows. It's pretty thrilling. That's their whole world. And they throw tournaments themselves. So they live stream a lot of these. tournaments and i don't know if they actually like do commentary or anything but yeah i guess i would add a little flavor yeah yeah fishing world you just get in there and cuss i would know nothing that's not what all i do that is all you do you sing and you cuss and you eat biscuits and you cry and cuss and eat biscuits that is right no god i'm not going to say it so what was the question was favorite memories a favorite memory with a

A sibling? Did I just say sibling? Sibling. Yeah, that's right. I don't know. Sibling. Is that not the right word? I think I said simbing.

Anyway, who cares? Nobody's listening. I'm thinking of two. Beat me up. Oh, boy. Really? Yeah, they used to beat me up. Does it have to be childhood?

Is that what they said? Okay. They just said any. Did they beat you up as a grown woman? at what age at what age does it become really problematic you guys

you guys we have to get out of this stage they treated they treated me like one of the boys which I wanted but that also was hard until it was time for your beating I was like I'm tough I can hang with you guys

because there was a the whole neighborhood was boys so I wanted to be in the group and be included and my mom would be like don't leave your sister and I'd be like ha ha you you guys have

to fucking take me there we go and they were like and then I would try to be like see I belong here and then like within an hour I'm like

oh my god it hurts why did you push me so yeah that would be so funny like to see two grown men meeting up

sister. Of course it wouldn't really be funny. That's how we hand. A cartoon. That's how we hand a little conflict. Okay.

Oh gosh. Favorite favorite memories. The two that come to mine. I've probably said them before, but one is my parents went away on vacation somewhere and they left us alone.

And it was the year that Phantom Menace came out. So what is that? 2000 maybe? 99. Thomas. Why would any of us know that you're... I looked directly at Thomas.

99. 99. So I was... Why can't I do this? 12. I was 12. Okay. And my brother was 16, I guess.

And my parents went away for like a... I thought I... I swear I was younger than that. Anyway, they left us alone for like a week in the house. Nobody's going to fact check this, by the way. And my parents were pretty permissive, but one of their... Two of their weird rules were, you weren't allowed to watch wrestling, like WWF.

Okay, because it could lead to you guys beating the shit on each other. And you weren't, we weren't allowed to have whipped cream from the can. Oh, wait, those were your two rules. Everything else was fair day. Everything else was, those were pretty much, those were two big ones. For your childhood. I don't know why those, basically when they... What was the whipped cream danger?

I think they just decided, like, that's... From the can. Like, you can't. And we couldn't have it in the house. They were just like, it's not real food. It's like, you know, and we ate tons of not real food. So like a cheese whiz every day. I know what happened.

What? Your mother loves it so much. She didn't want it in the house. That, oh, wow. 100% or my dad. You didn't have to pay for that therapy. Yeah, sorry to make it sexist. But like somebody.

You're right. Yeah. Somebody was like, I have no controls. Because it's so weird. It's like no wrestling. And also none of those. pinwheel lollipops. Yeah.

It's like we weren't going to get them. With whipped cream on top. Not as bad in the house. One of them loved wrestling too much as well. Yeah. Anyway, my parents go away and as soon as the taxi pulled away to the airport. Wrestling and whipped cream. We ran to the corner store.

We got a can of whipped cream, came back through on the wrestling. And it was so joyful. And we had the funnest week, just the two of us, doing everything we weren't supposed to do. and laughing. We went to see Phantom Menace, so disappointing. But that was great. And then also as an adult, he came to visit me in England. And I was just so glad that we made the time to do that.

And we went on this walking tour of a cemetery. And my brother's like a deep history buff and was asking such interesting questions. And to see him in public as an adult, like, and he was so confident and everyone was fascinated by his questions. and I was just like seeing him through the world's eyes being like, what a wonderful man. Then we were leaving and we'd walked quite a ways and he said, oh, I'm so sorry, I have to go back quickly.

And he went all the way back and went to our guide and went, thank you so much, that was a really interesting tour. I was a thank you. He'd forgotten to thank the guide. He went all the way back to thank you. Oh, that's so nice. So those are two favorites, yeah. Aw.

What about you guys? I'm trying to think of something with us all together, but I can only think of individual ones My brother Jay When I lived in Spain He and my mom came to visit And that was cool Like getting to

Like we traveled Spain And around Spain and France Together for like three and a half weeks Whoa And he And I were kind of like the mom and dad And my mom was kind of the child She's like in the back seat going

Look at those orange trees I'm going to go over there Let's go pick up some rocks and we're like no we're always like no just sit there just sit there just sit there no no she's just like a child look at that look at that look at that so that we just and we were staying in the like the cheapest places because we didn't have you know none of us were had much money and yeah the last night he's like I'm I'm splurgeon I'm getting us a nice hotel room and

uh we it just a lot we just laughed a lot and had a good time and then recently he and I had kind of we sometimes butt heads and had had been budding heads for a while and then finally let all that stuff go and um

had a weekend together at my mom's like a couple months ago where it just felt like we were kids all over again and we had not spent that kind of time together as adults um we like went to top golf and went to a movie and went to dinner and I was just like it's so nice to be having this kind of experience with my brother me in my mid 40s and him in his late 40s and then my other

brother is my our oldest brother he's seven years older than me so he always kind of took on a dad role um and so we had we used to wrestle a lot when we were kids with whipped cream uh no whipped cream but he um he was such a good guy like he really tried to um sort of make up where sometimes my parents lacked and he went to college like two weeks after my parents divorced oh man and i was 12 and i'm losing my big brother and my parents are divorcing and i was just traumatized our dog died no my god a couple weeks before that you tend to do things like in chunks Yeah, like everything coming to dayloes.

Yeah, I'm pumped for you to get through this daily. Yeah, and he, you know, my dad traveled a lot back then, so Price would kind of be the one to teach me how to throw a softball or to play soccer with me in the yard. And so he was very dad-like. So when he was at college, I loved to go visit him. It felt so cool. And his friends were so nice to me.

Well, he is an 18-year-old boy. I'll never forget this. Had he made all these wonderful friends. who are women like platonically yeah and he would have them write me letters like in the mail sending me letters when I would like saying like your brother said you know your parents are going through a divorce and you're going through a hard time and we just wanted to check on you and make sure you're okay and you know come visit any time I would get these letters from his friends and because he asked them to help look out for me and I that's so nice be a memory of of him

that I really cherish because I thought what 18 year old boy yeah has that you know yeah type of foresight and that to be like can you make sure my sister's okay that's really which is so interesting because he is not an emotional guy he's not a hugger he's not he's not he does not talk about feelings so he um he had other people to facilitate to the women in his life yeah yeah oh that's so nice yeah and he and I used to play like mixed doubles together, like sports were kind of our love language with each other. And so yeah, but I definitely remember that fondly. That's awesome. I love that. How about you? Oh, yeah. I mean, I have to say, you know, I've shared on here just how my brother is just like,

I'm seeing such a different side of him. Oh yeah, since he had this daughter. Yes. You know, he's married. He has his kids and I think it's it's to my my family's very into like ribbing each other and all that kind of stuff and it's just so fun to see my my brother is like a big guy like yeah you know this kind of guy yeah collects whiskey you know has a always has some smelly dog look their dog isn't smelly but his old dog was but no the old dog is the one i'm thinking but anyway um you know he's the rolling stones and whiskey and all that kind of his dog and and then just to see i i his wife reached out to me when their daughter my niece was turning one and asked me to come surprise my brother for her first birthday and um i would have to say that was one of the best

experiences was my brother coming downstairs and I'm sitting there with his wife and kids and he was like he had just gotten out of the show he you can tell he really could not comprehend what he was seeing his reality yeah he's like what and then and then just really you know I was there when my niece was born but to come back when she was turning one and to see my brother just loving getting her in her little dresses and putting bows in her hair and just like having no like you know

he's no shame about it he's like he's like what yeah this is her color she looks great in lilac and uh you know but she looks great in lilac yeah he was like what you think she doesn't look good and this is her color yeah

and I'm like but who are you but yeah that was I think one of the best experiences with my brother was seeing him not just as a father but a father to a little girl That's really sweet

Yeah I really still don't know Who he is Yeah I really don't Because it's probably like your older brother Like if you saw him like Yeah yeah You know and I call her his little dolly Yeah

I was like I didn't know you needed a little dolly All these years That's all you need it I didn't feel like my That my brother would have been that way too Had he had a girl He had a boy But I could see a girl

would have brought out that side of him too I think yeah it's it's really that whole idea of when you think you know someone yeah I don't know if this is good or bad but my friends used to always be like I'm going to have you meet this person I feel like you have a good take on and I used to believe that about myself like yeah I can I can read people yeah yeah you can't like you people do curveballs and like become better people or then do horrendous things things after decades of knowing them. It's like, I give up. But on a positive twist, my brother really surprised me.

I love them. That's great. Would you get into trouble together growing up? Like, were you friends? No, my brother was so, I handled all the trouble. Yeah, yeah. I did all that. You know, my brother was.

Straight edge. He made good grades and was on all the sports teams. Yeah. And I was really lagging behind and struggling. Like my brother believed in Santa Claus for so long. And I like brought him into my mother's closet and said, these are our Christmas presents. And he was like, TIG, he was like sad and hurt. You know, this is my older big brother.

You're in your 30s. And I'm like smoking. Yeah. Going, look, that's yours. These are mine. There's no Santa. You know? So, no, I don't, I don't think we really got into trouble.

Yeah, I handled all that. How do your brothers all feel about you doing comedy and stuff? Like, do they get it? Are they into it? My brother listens to this show. Oh, really? Oh, shout out. Yeah, shout out.

But he, I think he follows just even comedy in general more than I do. But he's very into it. He's a huge will-farel thing. What? More than you do is hilarious. Well, yeah. Like as far as watching other stand-ups. Yeah.

Like, yeah. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, my brothers are into it, too. Every story, you know, I talk a lot about my family. So a lot of their friends come up to them because Feimster is obviously very specific name. They're like, is that your sister? And, uh, or people they don't know. And, um, they're always asking them if the stories are true.

Right. And my brothers are always like, it's very true. And so I think they get a kick out of. hearing me retell something that they also have experienced it's like you're canonizing the mythology of their childhood too exactly so i think they like that and then you know they're boys so you know we don't dig too deep that much and then and then uh you know my again my oldest brother will be like we are proud of you oh i know we don't say it but we are and we won't say it again We won't say it again, and I'll be like, oh, because, you know, for whatever reason as the youngest, I don't know why this has fallen on my lap, but I've always kind of had to take care of things in my family, or at least for a while, maybe more financially, and just kind of some of my parents' burdens have fallen on me. My mom's going to be, how dare you?

I don't know how to describe it And as far as I get financial And so I think I get Sometimes into the like Like why is this always my Responsibility and I think I

Occasionally feel Not appreciated And then my brother will be like We appreciate you And you're like I'm going to stop Stop beating my pillow now Yeah

Well should we hear their answer Oh yes please Yes, please. Yes, please. What's one of your favorite childhood memories? My favorite childhood memory is we have been put to bed in our room. We have the paneling dividing that Grandpa built. And it's got a little space at the top.

And I would throw the little small square pillow that we had over the top. And you would catch it and you would throw it back to me. and we would have different kind of events. It had to be, one would be the two-hand catch, one would be the one-hand catch, one would be the off-hand catch. I still remember that to this day. Yeah, we had some good times in that dividered up room playing our games. Well, what's one of your favorite memories?

One of my favorite sibling memories is Christmas, any Christmas morning, right? Yeah. Because, you know, we live in a small apartment, but the anticipation of Christmas and Santa Claus coming and our mom used to deck the house out, our little bitty apartment. She, I remember the time that she created a makeshift chimney out of corrugated paper that looked like a chimney and put it over our radiator. And dad painted, because our dad was an artist and he painted an oil, a clean. clear fire and they put a light behind it to make it feel like we had a fireplace and a chimney that Santa Claus could come down. But you always got up first. Always. And you never went out to check for Santa, whether Santa had been there and you woke me up and I was ready. And I would

remember you saying, meesh, Santa Claus has been here. And we go out there and start our Christmas. So those are some of my favorite memories. Great memory. Great memory. Thanks, handsome. See you. Thanks, Michelle and Craig. I can listen to them tell stories all day long. Yeah, Christmas morning is a classic. It's always the kids up first.

I remember one Christmas, my brother and I decided to get up at like three in the morning. Yeah, of course. Still dark. When you still believe? I mean. And your parents still awake from the night before? Passed out on the couch.

Trashed. that was so cool having Michelle and Craig ask a question so cool thank you she's incredible Craig I've started you know get to know through their podcast but man what a lady yeah what a first lady yes what a first lady come back please please please God come back if anybody's watching the president yeah what a fun episode please if you like this show or this this episode, share it with a friend. Let's help build the handsome community. Also, make sure to subscribe, rate, review,

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