Handsome - Pretty Little Episode #22

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

Tig and Mae discuss drag personas and time travel on a personable and timeless Pretty Little Episode!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Handsome Pot. Chattin' with friends on the Handsome Pot. Chattin' with friends on the Handsome Pot. Pretty little Episode. Good morning and welcome. Good afternoon. And hello. Welcome to a Pretty Little.

We're on different time zones. Yeah, we are. Yeah, and I talked over your Pretty Little intro, so apologies. It's always, as you know, a nail biting moment for me. The intros, it takes a lot to get me there to take the plunge. Yeah, yeah.

So you're in Toronto, right, Tig? I am, and I was out last night. Whoa, congrats. At a Rufus Wainwright concert. No way. I was. Was he playing the hits or what? He was playing his folk-ocracy album,

a bunch of folk tunes. And he also snuck in Islands in the Stream, which is- No way. He is. That's hilarious. So yeah, I was at his concert and then there was like a little after party gathering. That's amazing.

Well, it was at this woman, she's like a Canadian political, I'm not even quite sure who she was. A Canadian political person. A political person, yes. And so we were at her house hanging out and the people that run the venue where Rufus was performing came up to me and they told me,

"'We are good friends with May's parents.'" What? Yeah, and I was like, really? And they're like, yeah. And I don't know, what May's parents. What? Yeah, and I was like, really? And they're like, yeah, and I don't know. What are your parents' names? Wendy and James. Yeah, they're like, oh, Wendy and James. They're like, do you know Wendy and James?

They are the best, we love them. No way. I was like, I have not ever met Wendy and James. Oh my God, I love that people are coming up to you saying, we know Mae's parents. That's so funny. I know, I was like, I don't. Yeah, but what was the venue he was playing?

Okay, none of the details are coming. Like, something... Sure. Hall? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Royal Conservatory? Maybe. Yes, yes. Yes, okay, I know exactly who these people were. That's great. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Royal Conservatory. Maybe. Yes, yes. Yes. OK, I know exactly who these people were. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Man, he's so good. Rufus. He is so good.

And then his sister, Lucy Wainwright Roach, was on stage as well. I mean, there was a whole band, but it was so fun because Lucy, I actually my friendship with Lucy predates my friendship with Rufus. Really? And yeah, yeah. I met Lucy years ago. She was performing.

Do you know the folk trio, the Roaches? No. It's a trio that actually Paul Simon discovered. No way. And they are, yeah, they're sisters. And a friend of mine took me to see his friend, Lucy Roach, Lucy Wainwright Roach play. And then she introduced her mother on stage. She said, I want to introduce my mom, Suzy. And she comes out and I turned to my friend, I

said, is that Suzy Roach? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, Oh my God. Like, anyway, so. Suzzy Roach. Suzzy Roach. Yeah. But what a name. She was married to Loudon Wainwright. And so Rufus and Lucy are half siblings. And they just have such an extraordinarily talented family. Oh, it's wild. But anyway, then I became friends with Rufus and it was nice to be with both of them.

And now you're best friends with my parents' friends. That's right. It's a small world, isn't it? Yeah. Well, good for you for getting out and about in Toronto. Like it's because you're there for so long. I think you got it. You got to force yourself to go out and do stuff, right? Otherwise, I fell into a real like just coming home from work and putting on

true crime, you know? Yeah, it's a weird existence. It's a really, really weird existence. And I'm I'm kind of struggling with it. Yeah, it's hard to be away from your family. really weird existence and I'm kind of struggling with it. It's hard to be away from your family. Your life. Yeah, your whole life, your routine.

But I do think that the way to do it is to go out with people, make plans and go for dinners and do stuff. Because the other day I was like, oh man, I'm depressed. And then I was like, well, I have been watching five hours of a documentary about John Boney Ramsey. No wonder I'm depressed. And then I was like, well, I have been watching five hours of a documentary about John Benet-Ramsey. Like, no wonder I'm feeling.

Doc, why am I feeling so down? Yeah, like you gotta get out and about. Yeah, I mean, I've been, you know, as you know, working on new stuff at Comedy Bar. And then I'm also, you know, I don't know, exercising and recording the podcast. Then Stephanie and I are working on projects together. But yeah, I should probably be a little more social than I am.

I like to have a bro. Like as you know, I often have like a straight dude just staying in my house and it really, to wake up in the morning and someone's like, morning bud, oh yeah, I love it. I'm like, just stop me from going into my head. Like the other day I was like, I mean, I've known these bros for so long. So my friend who's staying with me now I've known since I was like 18. And the other night we were in bed, watch, because there's no TV in the living room in this Airbnb.

So we were in bed, tucked up together, watching Eyes Wide Shut, and we were eating miso eggplant. And I was like, and sometimes you got to get in bed with your boy, you got to watch Eyes Wide Shut, you got to have miso eggplant. I thought.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, I love a straight man. I am not a lesbian that is, you know, repulsed by dudes, but that does sound nice. I just don't have, I don't have that dude out here. Yeah, yeah. And there are- I can send you a few.

Yeah, if you could. I mean, I'm trying to figure out my life. I'm trying to figure out my friends and what's going on. Yeah. It's just, it's weird. It's definitely weird. Yeah. Do you mean like in LA as well,

you feel like you're in a transition period or just while you're out there? I mean, it's mainly here, but it's just, you know, disconnecting to be away from my life for six months. Yeah. It's the craziest thing in the world. Yeah. Because touring, I could go out for a night or a weekend or a week or two weeks or whatever,

and I'd know, I could just plan my life. Like, oh, I'm gonna have this whole month off the whole summer offer you know what I mean yeah where is. In production they own your schedule very very weird lifestyle yeah it's really bizarre but I enjoy every i like every single person cast and crew. I enjoy every, I like every single person, cast and crew. I love being a part of the Star Trek world. I'm very thankful for the job and, but I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. Yeah, yeah, how to stay regulated. Yeah.

Stay regular too. That's right, you have to. Got to. Yeah. Well, should we segue seamlessly into some listener questions? See what people want to know? Let's do that. Yeah. Hello, hello, hello, handsomest of handsoms. My name is Little Miss Hot Mess. And yes,

you can already tell from that name. I am a drag queen. And so my question for you is who would you be as a drag performer? Maybe you're a drag queen or a drag queen. And so my question for you is who would you be as a drag performer? Maybe you're a drag queen or a drag king or some other drag royalty. And I'm curious what your drag name would be, how you might think about a drag persona, what you'd want to look like as you step out onto a fabulous pageant stage. That's a great question. Well, I would say like early in life, I would have been, I would have probably been a drag king

and like had a drag king persona like skeet or no, like a zip zero or something. And but... What? I don't know, zip zero? I don't even know what you're talking about. Me neither. What are you talking about?

Well, I don't know. A drag king named zip zero? Maybe I'm not submerged in the culture enough. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance It's emerged in the culture enough. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate First. Like, you know how to check and make sure you pack your tap shoes before heading off to the big talent show. Exactly. Checking First is smart. So check Allstate First for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate. This content is intended for audiences in the US only. Savings vary, terms apply. Allstate fire and casualty insurance company and affiliates. Northbrook, Illinois. I think you're right.

Everyone else listening going, oh yes, Zip Zero is the one. No, I don't think that's even like a classic drag king style name, but I think if I was a drag king, I'd be some kind of greaser called Zip Zero. But now maybe because I feel gender wise that I'm sitting in a more boy place, I would maybe feel empowered and more comfortable to do drag queen where I would have been embarrassed before. But now I feel like, fuck, I could be like Greta Von,

Von Lincoln. Zip. Greta Von. Von. Greta Von Zip. Greta Von Zip. Greta Von Zip. Greta Von Zip.

Yeah, or you could go as me. Yeah, I could go as Dig. Oh my God. Is that the proper way to say it, go as me? That sounds like Halloween. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. What would you who would you be? Well, you know what immediately came to mind is the drag king look

that I cultivated on handsome with Grandpa Tig. Oh, my God. Yes. that's so your drag persona. I love Grandpa Tig so much. When I saw pictures of myself, I was like, hello handsome. Yeah, so we're talking kind of gray mustache, thick mustache. Full gray and bushy, bushy eyebrows. Remember those?

I had eyebrow tape to my eyebrows. And like maybe a cardigan, a whiskey. What do you mean maybe? Of course there'd be a cardigan. And a whiskey that I don't drink. Okay, so you're a grandpa tig and then maybe I'm kind of perched on the arm of your chair and I'm like, morning, I'm like a kind of flapper girl from the 60s. I'm like Twiggy Stardust or something. And I'm like, hello, Zipzing String, or whatever your name is.

I don't know why Zip Zero just rolled off the tongue. Oh, Zip Zero. Yeah, okay, I like that. You know that you can use that name when you check into hotel rooms. Oh, you're so right zip zero zero And no one will ever know unless they listen to this episode. Yeah Yeah, great, okay, well we could do that on the live show one day

Mm-hmm. Put it on the list Thomas Should we hear a little miss hot messes answer? Yes, please for me You already know that my drag name is Little Miss Hot Mess. I'll just say that that's a name that I may or may not have earned in my early 20s when I was a little bit messier. Though now that I'm a little bit older and more mature, I would say that that name really helps me shine a spotlight on what a hot mess the rest of the world can be. Thank you, Little Miss Hot Mess. I hope we get to see Lil Miss Hot Mess at a show sometime.

Should we hear another question? Let's do. Do let. Hello, I am Emma from North London in England. I have a question about time travel. I'm a bit of a history nerd. If you could go back in history and spend an hour wandering around somewhere, where would you like to go? You don't have to do anything massively historically significant and save civilization.

Just to be a little bit of a tourist, where would you like to hang out for an hour? Thanks very much. That's interesting. It's almost unpleasant for me. I'm thinking so hard about it. Like I wanna get it right. I feel like there's a, like the options are too many.

Oh man. I feel like where I would go is not typical like history books history. It would be more of like, I'd love to be peek behind a tree and see dinosaurs. Hey, that counts as history. I know it does, but I think people would probably be more inclined to be like, you know, the revolution. Yeah.

But. Pre-human, pre-civilization, yeah. Yeah, I would love to just, I wanna see. Yeah, see those. And it would be so insane because they'd have feathers, right, they think a lot of them had feathers. They probably wouldn't sound the way we expect them to sound. For sure.

Rustling through those trees. I would even love to peek in a cave during caveman time and put on a little Flintstone skirt just so I kind of fit in. Right. They wouldn't bat an eyelid. With my glasses on and just wander into the cave. What's going on in here? I mean, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, all that kind of stuff is a little more interesting

to me because there's not really documentation and we're just speculating so much. Yeah, yeah. I would go, I think, I've been watching a lot of stuff about like whether the Inca and the Aztec and stuff were communing with aliens. Like there's some things like that, you know, the Nazca lines and stuff and like there's and a lot of these sort of early art of in ancient Egypt and in Aztec art depicts like light beings who are, I don't know.

I just wanna know if aliens came down and taught everybody how to build pyramids. So maybe Machu Picchu or something, but also I'd like to be at the Sermon on the Mount. I'd like to hear Jesus addressing a crowd and be like, what was- Sure, that'd be a fun day. Yeah, like what was his deal? Jesus, man, what's your deal?

What's your deal? I'm from the future and I just, I wanna know what your deal is for my podcast. Yeah, can you send us, can you give us a question? Can I film you? Oh my God, can you imagine if I had this video and I was like, guys, I swear to God this happened to me. I went and everyone would be like,

what a weird stunt you this happened to me. I went and everyone would be like, what a weird stunt you're trying to pull. And I'd like to go and see when Napoleon crowned himself emperor. He took the crown out of the Pope's hands and he put it on his own head instead of letting the Pope crown him and he just is such an interesting character. And there were dinosaurs during that time too,

which is cool. All of the aisles in Notre Dame were full of raptors and T-rex and dinosaurs. And turtles. Yeah. I'd like to hear, this person seems very, is it Emma in North London? She seems very knowledgeable about history. So I wonder if she'll have like a really esoteric response. She's just like, hmm. And my answer would be to go back to Tudor London and to walk along London Bridge. So that's not just walking across a bridge, it's also a place where everybody went to

do their shopping and there were massive buildings and huge equivalent of high rises and just get a flavor of what Tudor London was like. That would be my answer. That's a good answer. I mean, it would be, it would stink is the problem. Everyone would smell so bad. Well you could put a paper or a clothespin on your nose and wander around. I'm dead at that image.

Walking down the... Wow. Well, yeah, well, I'll be. I'll be. Look at that. You don't say. I should probably have a clothespin on my nose too when I peek into the cave. Yeah, you should. Because you know they're not very particular about where they're going to the bathroom

and stuff because they just don't have much experience. Oh my God, you're trying to blend in with a clothes pin on your nose. No, I'm just a regular caveman from a neighboring cave. With glasses and a Flintstone skirt on. Who's asking? Next time I go to London, I'm putting a clothespin on my nose just for Emma. Just for you. Just for me, please. Put it on the list. Put it on the list, Thomas. You have to go to London Bridge and you have to just walk

along the bridge. With a clothespin on your nose. Why is that the dumbest image? Oh boy. Oh boy. I probably shouldn't laugh that hard at myself. I'm laughing more at you laughing at it. It's really cracking up. Your laughter made me realize how deeply ridiculous it was. So stupid. Why doesn't anyone do that more? It's the same person.

The same person that puts a clothes pin on their nose is also the kind of person that only blows up old timey bombs. Yeah, that go like fssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss All right. That was a very fun episode. Yes. I had a great time. Great to hear from everybody. Also, anyone coming to live shows, feel free to show up with a clothespin on your nose, please. Oh, please. Please. I mean, you know what I'm ordering on Amazon right after this. When keep sending in your questions, you go to speakpipe.com slash handsome pod and ask us a question. Send us your response as well and get your merch at handsome pod.com. We've got really good stuff right now. We really, we always do. Yeah. Okay. And we always got great episodes that you should share with your friends. If anything makes you giggle like this, this is a perfect example,

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