Handsome - Pretty Little Episode #45

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

Mae and Fortune plan a film festival and pitch each other TV ideas on an entertaining, entertainment-themed Pretty Little Episode!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Handsome, chatting with friends on the handsome part. Chatting with friends on the handsome part. Pretty little episode. Welcome to our pretty little episode for the handsome pod. It's Fortune Famester. And me, May Martin. I was just like frantically pointing at you. You start.

You start. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Don't you worry. Thank you. How's it going? It's going well. I'm feeling good, feeling fresh.

I did a workout, I did a sauna, but my air conditioning's broken and the way to fix it is to, apparently, is to blast the heat all day. Really? Yeah, to like melt, it's like frozen over or something. So they're- Oh no. Blasting the heat in my house and it's intense.

Whoa, it's like a sauna in your house now. Yeah, it's super intense. How are you? You look very smart, I think. I do? Yeah. I've been reading books now. We know that's not true.

I'm good. I swam every day this week. Yes. I did my treading water. Although one of the days I did make cinnamon rolls and I ate those in the pool. While treading? And then treading water. Oh my God.

That's impressive, I think. Yeah. So I felt like the, you know, I ate some I shouldn't. And then I treaded. Listen, balance. Who says shouldn't, you know? What did you get them? I like pre-made and then you put them in the oven. You know, like one of those, I'm sure, is the unhealthiest of things.

Like Hillsbury. Yes, I fucking I love it. They're so good. I'm not going to buy those again because I shouldn't be eating them but they were there and I just made them about like not having the thing in your house that you want like cuz I'm trying to quit smoking and I Yeah, I do smoke like I have to admit that I smoke like two or three cigarettes a day Yeah, I'm trying to so I got rid of all the cigarettes in my house. And then last night I smoked a butt of a cigarette from my cigarette butt.

Like a sketchy little rat. Yeah. I mean, I guess it just takes time to snap out of that, right? Yeah, like to form a new habit or whatever. Have you quit before? Yeah. I quit for all of my 20s. Yeah, I just started again in the pandemic really.

And then I quit again when I was with Parv and then I started smoking again. Is it an anxiety thing you think? I think it's like a nihilism thing. It's just like, ah, fuck it. And I do love it. It's just the worst thing for you, but I do. You're trying.

I'm trying. I'm trying. Nikkie Glazer said she read some book that like... Everyone talks about this. No, that was alcohol. I think that was alcohol. But that too, yeah. I'm lucky I've never really liked drinking that much.

I like a stimulant, you know? Right. Yeah, but there is a book that everyone says you gotta read to quit smoking. Yeah, I've never smoked. I mean, you know, aside from like a drag or two in high school, which I probably didn't even, I don't even think I inhaled.

I was just like this. I can imagine you smoking in like improv scenes, like mime smoking a lot. It just says a lot about a character the minute you. Because I've never smoked, I'm always like trying to do the ash. What is this called? Mime ashing it. Yeah, mime ashing it. That'll be believable. But yeah, never, my vice is all food. I never gotten into the smoking and alcohol has never been an issue either. It's just so funny how they are interchangeable

for each other. Like it's just like, it's all the same, you know, and everybody's got their thing. We're just, none of us are perfect, you guys. We're just doing the best we can. We got to self soothe somehow, and we're supposed to be living in little villages, just hanging out with our families,

not living in these big scary metropolises with information coming at us. For you, you take a drag of a butt of a cigarette on the ground and I eat a cinnamon roll. Okay, mine sounds worse. Let's say my cinnamon roll was also on the ground and I eat a cinnamon roll. Okay, mine sounds worse. Let's say my cinnamon roll was also on the ground. Okay, yeah, yeah. And I picked it up and ate it.

Yeah. Well, should we get to some questions? I would love to. I would love to. Hello, pretty little handsome cowboys. My name is Margot. I'm calling from the beautifully gay Hudson Valley in New York. And I'm wondering if you were putting together a handsome queer film festival, what would

you include? What are some of your favorite nostalgic queer or queer coded movies? What are your newer favorites? Excited to hear what you have to say. Oh man, I hope you know more than I do. I feel like I'm so bad about, I have not watched enough gay stuff. Oh really?

Well yeah, mine is, I like that Margot's also said queer coded, because there are things that just feel gay. Yeah, what does that mean though? Okay, hocus pocus, feels gay. What? That's gay coded? Oh for sure. It's like very drag queen-y, and it's sort of horny. Oh, I see.

Undertones. A queer undertone. Yeah. Or for me, the witches with, uh, Angelica Houston. Oh yeah. I don't know. There's something gay about it. Like, yeah.

Uh, and then actually, I love how big you're smiling, thinking of those movies. I'm literally buzzing because those are all, all your formative hard ons that movies. I know, like I'm literally buzzing. Because those are all your formative hard-ons that you get. Well, you would have a genre at this film festival called gay coded and that these would be in that category. Children's movies in a way, like, or sort of, yeah, sounds weird, but you know what I mean? Like first crushes kind of.

Okay. And then. That's like, whoo know what I mean. Like first crushes kind of. Okay. And then. That's like cool. Lady and the Tramp? Actually queer stuff. Oh, you think those Siamese cats and Lady and the Tramp are licking each other. Yeah, they're gay.

So gay. Cat buds. Have you seen Foxfire? No, what's that? Oh my God. I think it's 90s, early 90s or late 80s even. And it's no, it must be 90s. Angelina Jolie, Jenny Shimizu.

And it's about a group of teenage girls who kind of band together to rebel. There's like a sketchy teacher and they end up living in this house together. And it's just like a moody, emo kind of lesbionic movie. And I don't think anyone even kisses, but they like tattoo each other. No kissing?

I think maybe there is one kiss, but Angelina Jolie is this rebel in her leather boots and she tattoos them all and it's the hottest scene. They all get naked and she gives them all friendship tattoos. Anyway, so that's one. I like the movie she did Gia back in the day. Gia 100%.

She's like throwing herself against the fence. Yes, of course, of course. That awoken some things in me. I'm sure that I've told this on the pod, but that I watched that one part of that VHS so much that just that part was like fuzzy. And you watched it like it wore itself down. Also, my own private Idaho.

OK. Gus Vincent, River Phoenix and Keanu Reeves. Really beautiful movie. Not tons of like explicit gay stuff, but they're they play like sex workers and River is in love with Keanu and it's just a beautiful movie. I gotta watch that again I watched it a long time ago but I want to go back to that one. Yeah it's really great and then oh have you seen the Pee Wee Herman documentary? Oh no but I heard it's really good. Were you a fan like was he important to you? I like yeah I mean he it wasn't like I I wasn't

like obsessed with Pee Wewee's Playhouse, but it was part of my growing up for sure. Right, right. Because that I was so deeply obsessed. And then I watching the documentary, he's talking about the he's talking about being closeted and like, but finding ways to sort of represent queer culture covertly and whatever. But there's a Christmas special, a Pee Wee Christmas special

that let me, I want to read you the guest list of the guests that appeared on that Christmas special. Okay. Because it's so gay. Okay. Yeah, you got Cher, you got Katie Lang, you got little Richard, You got Little Richard. You got Grace Jones.

Okay. Frankie Avalon. Oprah Winfrey. Like, I don't know. It just it was it was so blatantly like a celebration of queer culture with like Grace Jones voguing and stuff. But that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm a cheerleader. That would have to be in there.

That was a, that was a early days gay and that was eye opening. Shout out to Jamie Babbitt directing that. Um, yes, Jamie Babbitt, uh, Debs. Remember that? That was a, no, I'm writing that down. Um, that was early, early days back in the day. Um, the, a newer one, that Carol movie that down. That was early days back in the day. A newer one, that Carol movie, that's gotta go in there. Oh my God, Carol's gotta be on there, I love Carol.

Oh, and the one with the fog. There's always fog. The one with the fog. The one with a lot of fog, and they were like, the Irish actress. Yes. Emma Knight, Emma. Yes, and I think SNL parodied it with a lot of longing glances.

Yeah, a lot of that. It's a lot of tension. Yes. Anything Rachel Weisz, too, like the favorite or that's sort of queer. Well, we'd have a documentary section. We'd put Tig's documentary in there, Tig, Yes. And Come Seeming the Good Light. I mean, while we're at it, do we just play all our stand-up specials? All of our stand-up specials for the comedy part.

That will be with But I'm a Cheerleader. Yeah, Feel Good, One Mississippi, everything you've ever appeared in. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I feel like this is a pretty good festival so far. Yeah, this is pretty, this is a week-long festival that we're in. And then we'll have some gay guys movies too, like the Birdcage or something. The Birdcage, oh my God.

What about my- Paris is Burning, that'll be part of the documentary. My Policeman, which was pretty good I thought, with Harry Styles and- Oh yeah, yeah, that one, I like that one. It's fun, isn't it good though that like- That movie Bottoms, we gotta put that in there. That was funny. That was Shippie in there to put that in there. That would be in the comedy

section. Isn't it nice that like, well, when I was, yeah, right at the important age of puberty and like realizing my feelings and stuff, the only queer content was so traumatic. It was, I know, boys don't cry. That's gotta be in there, but that was tough. Oh my God, Monster, it was heavy. It was like, oh God. Because so many stories were, there was so much going on that was heavy,

that was happening. It was, there's a lot of darkness for the light, you know? And still, and still now. I might put that movie Monica in there with Trace LeCette. Oh, yeah. I haven't seen it, but really beautiful. This is a good festival. I know, I know.

I could go in for, I feel like we're all the non-queer people listening to this. We're like, all right, we get it. Well, but some might check out some of these movies and they should. They should like I love uh straight movies they're all my favorite movies. Yeah straight movies are great. So maybe you'll love a queer movie. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking Allstate First. Like you know to check that your local radio station can dedicate a song to someone you care about on their special day, what's better than getting a shout out on your drive-in to work?

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Fried Green Tomatoes, The Incredibly True Adventures of Two Girls in Love, Desert Hearts, Mutt, and Portrait of a Lady on Fire. That's what I couldn't think of. Happy Fried Handsome's. How do I forget A League of Their Own and Fried Green Tomatoes, two of my favorite movies. I've never seen Fried Green Tomatoes. Fried Green Tomatoes is more gay coded than gay. The book I think had more,

it was more on the nose than the movie. But man, I loved a movie back then about two ladies who you could tell really love each other. But they're like fighting it. I wanna see love it. I want to see all that. I've never heard of Mutt either. I'm going to watch that. Thanks, Margot. Should we hear another question? Let's do it. Hello, handsome TIG, handsome Fortune and handsome May. My name is Dominique from Columbus, Ohio. A city I think you should really heavily consider for your next live show.

Just wanted to throw that out there. Will be a good place for him. Here's my question. If you were to create a children's television show, what would your show be about? Oh, May, I feel like this is your will-house. Dude, both of these questions, have you seen me light up? No, you're beaming over there. Yeah, because I actually, the past few days, every day I've said out loud to a different person,

I want to make a kids TV show. I think you should. I think I should. Yeah, like with all magical animals and like, so my idea of fortune, like I'm worried by talking about it, I'm going to suck the energy out of it, but it's like- Well, don't give all of it away. Okay, okay.

Just broad strokes. Okay, broad strokes, because I don't give all of it away. Okay, okay. Just broad strokes. Okay, broad strokes, because I don't know the story yet, but instead of working towards my next standup special, I'm thinking about a live kids special. Okay, oh, like how John Mulaney did the sack lunch, sack bunch lunch kids or whatever.

Oh, that was kind of like a Sesame Street type. It was like, you should watch it just to kind of see. I remember that. How this is more. Because it was a good format. Yeah, so this would be filmed live in a theater and it would be me telling one story, one epic story but it has songs in it, like with a full band on stage and it's got puppets.

Oh yeah. Puppets acted out and I interact with the puppets and with the kids and I'm like telling the story. And I think it's, I want to base it on this children's book that my dad wrote about like the stuffed animals I had growing up. Oh yeah? Like these wicked characters and.

Oh, I love that. Yeah. Your imagination lends itself to that kind of fanciful world I feel like yeah, I'm I'm like silly That's where my inner child comes through, but I don't have the You know, I'm not creating these worlds in my head. That's that you do. I think it's a it's like a British whimsical thing that my dad imparted on me. It was like a lot of like Narnia and that.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what kids love are these like worlds that are made up. My friend Chris Colfer wrote this whole series of books like that he just created this world of these kids books that people love. And I just can't imagine coming up with these kind of things. I want to read those and I want to one day meet Chris Colfer because I'm a huge fan.

Oh, I didn't know that. I'll have to get him to ask a question. He's the loveliest of people. And also I will happily introduce you. And what? He's recently got ripped. Not to objectify him, but I want to ask him about his arm regime. All right. Yeah. Maybe we could all have dinner or something. Yeah. I really, yeah, I feel he would love it. He's one of the nicest people

ever. He seems like it. Yeah. So yeah, I think we go with your idea. My idea would, I've tried to create an animated show. I actually had a animated idea that got bought, that we were paid to write the pilot for. I wrote it with this really fantastic writer and they had an animator do all the characters. And I was like so pumped about it. I thought it was some of my best work. Yes. But you know, it came at a time where the people, the company that bought it, their whole department folded,

the whole channel folded. Yeah. And then, you know, to try to take an idea that started to be bought and resell it is not the easiest, but it was such a cool, it was based on my life, but not like, but very broad, also my co-writer's life as well. And I was really proud of it. And it was such an insane animated versions of it. Oh, did you got that far to actually yeah, we wrote we wrote the pilot and that they they they drew We had a really talented

Animator draw all the the main characters and made like this lookbook. That was really cool That's amazing. So I I think that would have been a cool thing and you never know Maybe it will pop back around someday. Yeah, all those things, they never go anywhere. Yeah, let's hear Dominique's answer. For me, I would want it to be about pop art and music, specifically from the 80s, 90s era. But I would want it to be in a peewees playhouse style of way where the kids would not only see the pictures and

hear the music, but actually get to be a part of it. So they could jump into the music and ride the notes to see the notes that make up the song, be a part of the music videos, bringing in images from Takashi Murakami and Andy Warhol so that they could see the brush strokes and see every little part of the picture and really get to be a part of the art. Yeah. Whoa. That's very creative, huh?

Very. I'm trying to visualize it. So it's like a video of art being created and there's music and the kids can kind of... She said ride the notes. Ride the notes. Is it animated? It feels like it. I don't want to pin Dominique down or make her,

like, yeah, it sounds wildly creative and good. It feels like maybe I need to act fast because it feels like everyone's being inspired by this Pee Wee documentary. Oh, right. Everyone's going to pitch their own Pee Wee's playhouse and I gotta move quick. Well, cause some people just have that gift of just creating such unique whimsical things and he certainly did.

So yeah, other people were like, wait, why am I not doing that? Yeah, mine's more reality-based, but mine was set in the 90s though. I do agree with her of that time period, because I like the nostalgia of that time period and the less tech and more imagination. 100%.

So storytelling with all the tech that we have now, now it feels colder. It's easier to tell a story where people don't know where you are all the time. And there's, yeah. The days of leaving your house and not coming back till nighttime and. Oh, fast.

Playing and being ridiculous and silly. Those were the simpler days. I was back home recently and was driving around my little hometown and it just made me think about me as a kid and walking home from school and just like what an innocent time it felt like. Yeah, we've got to cultivate those times but it takes real discipline. Like all I do is fantasize about going for a week somewhere, leaving my phone at home with a friend, like, you know.

It's like, I think you'd need like a real detox and there'd be like real withdrawal at first. I see you doing that in like a Joshua Tree situation. That would be great, but I am severely addicted. Like I need someone there holding me accountable, like taking my phone away from me. Well, this is a pleasure. Yeah, fun times. phone away from me. Yeah. Well, this is a pleasure.

Yeah, fun times. I love these questions. Me too. They're exactly what I want to talk about, actually. Yeah. What do you have coming up? Fortune, aside from your birthday. My birthday is around the corner on July 1st.

That's exciting. I don't have any plans and that's all good with me. Everyone's like, why do you not have any plans? I'm like, not even worried about it. I'm headed to Lincoln, California actually this evening. That's my Sacramento stop, the casino at Thunder Valley. And then July is pretty late for me. I'm just doing Edmonton in Canada with Mateo Lane

and then nothing until Spokane, Washington, July and August, I'm kind of taking it easy and I'm pretty stoked about that. Me too. Oh, and I'm gonna do Pride in Iceland. No. Yeah, I'm so stoked for that in August, early August. What?

That's incredible. I cannot wait. Have you been? Never been. Okay, we'll talk about it another time. All right. Yeah, it's the best place. I cannot wait. Have you been? Never been. Okay, we'll talk about it another time. All right. Yeah, it's the best place. Okay, wow.

And I'm also, yeah, the summer's really light for me. So just check out maymartinmusic.com. I've got two new songs out right now and music dates pop up, but other than that, yeah, just check out Feel Good on Netflix or anything like that. Oh, yeah. My season two of FUBAR is out on Netflix, too. Yeah. Binge that. I'm an action star, baby.

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