Handsome - Pretty Little Episode #51
Episode Date: August 8, 2025Fortune and Mae join forces to talk about getting ghosted (by ghosts?), party games, and their favorite chores, on a Pretty Little Episode that is much more party than chore!Handsome is hoste...d by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Chatting the friends on the Handsome Pod.
Pretty little episode.
Welcome to the Handsome Pod for our Pretty Little Episode episode.
It's fortunate.
And me, I may.
Here in person.
Yeah, I like doing these with you in person
Me too
You can like feel each other's energy
Yeah, your energy's good right now
I'm a big energy person
Did you know this?
No
Yeah, I am a cancer
July 1st was my birthday
And I would say
If you looked up cancer traits
Yeah, I'm pretty
Full on cancer
Like they're full on cancer
Like I line up with a lot of that
Emotional
Um
What else?
I feel energy very deeply.
Yeah.
Especially if I'm close to people, I can tell if something's off.
Yes.
I can walk into a home and tell if there's, like, bad energy.
Really?
Yeah, I can tell if there's good energy.
I wonder, is part of that, like, learned hypervigilance from childhood?
I've had a psychic tell me that I have to consciously, like, let go people's energy.
when I, after I walk out of a room.
I think I'm similar.
I'm a cancer moon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I feel similarly like people, and I've really tried to, like, in my life, be like,
which, who do I feel really good after I hang out with them and feel energized?
Yeah.
And who do I feel anxious?
It's important, yeah.
And, like, it takes me a lot of process.
I'm emotional, like, not, let me just start that over.
I'm not an emotional person.
I'm very even.
Oh, okay.
But I have deep emotions.
Right.
that makes sense the rivers run deep the rivers run deep but it takes me a while to process the
emotions yeah i don't know what i'm feeling if you were to like press me i'm like i don't know oh
but i will show you an action yeah that uh my what those emotions are and will you take
will you say i need time to figure out what i'm feeling yeah i'll be like i i just need a minute
to be like right how do i feel about this thing you know and i just have to like internalize it and
think about it. I think a lot. Yeah. I probably overthink too much. Um, but I, uh, care about
people and, um, yeah, you have a lot of empathy, keen sense of justice, I would say, like,
a lot of justice. Yeah, like when someone's wrong. When, yeah, I'm not, I don't hold grudges or
like anything like that, but if somebody does something I don't think is right. Yes. I don't like
that. Yeah, same. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm also an overthinker, but I, I'm like, I won't
I won't take time to prose says.
I'll send an essay of my thoughts and feelings,
but I'm getting better at that.
Before processing it?
Oh, I don't write things out and give it a minute.
Yeah, that's smart.
I'm doing that now.
Because then I'll realize the next day,
like, oh, you don't need to share all that.
Yeah, you don't need to say all that.
Yeah, also people know, people know how you're feeling a lot of the time.
Yeah, I kind of wear my heart on my sleeve.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't shy away from, like, if I, like, telling someone, like, a thing about them
that's cool or, like, or, like,
Like a friend if I appreciate something about them.
Yeah.
Like, I want to tell you this thing.
Like, I don't have any ego in like, oh, will it look, if I'd tell someone a nice thing,
will I look silly?
And the opposite, too.
Like, not saying, this is what I don't like about you, but I think you stand up for yourself.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, which is good.
I mean, sometimes when you're, like, considered a nicer person.
Yeah.
That's assumed that you let people walk all over you.
Yeah.
And I do not do that at all.
I do not.
Well, people can be foolish, but I, uh, you suffer fools, but you don't suffer, uh, yeah, injustice.
I just don't, yeah, I just don't put up with being treated poorly. I love that.
Love that. Yeah. But that took time. Yeah. You know, I, I had to get to a point where I liked myself.
Yeah. I think if you don't like yourself, you do allow that. And I have certainly had years of my life where I have let people walk on me.
Yeah. But with age and time and therapy. Yeah.
I genuinely like myself.
I haven't seen a life coach.
Yeah, how's that?
Yeah.
Well, great, because I often start therapy and then it tapers off or I don't, I dread it.
And it's like, I find it really intense sitting across from somebody and diving into like the hardest, deepest stuff.
And I also feel like I know so much of it.
Yeah.
But this is a more roundabout way, this life coach, who is a, you know, a qualified therapist and psychotherapist as well.
but it's just a lot more manageable for me
because it's like
I can do arts and crafts
while we talk
and we're talking about
my day to day life
and we made a pie chart
of my life
and all the different areas
and it seems more functional
and practical
and then we can talk around
the deeper issues
and the things
and but for now
I'm finding it less scary
than therapy
I'm still gonna go to therapy
and I have been
but I'm not judging
you look to be like
I bet I'm going to therapy
that's on everybody's own time you know yeah and people go in and out of it sometimes too yeah like
you you go if you're if you're dealing with stuff you feel like there's more pressing things and
sometimes you need a break from it you don't want to overanalyze things too you know I find that
sometimes people get too in their head about things and situations and relationships and yeah
sometimes you just need to chill yes yeah because you're just constantly repeating the same
stories. I guess that therapy would help you break those stories but yeah anyway well yeah what is your
sign I'm Taurus okay with cancer moon and Gemini rising I want to say I don't know what my other things are
I think the moon is like your emotional world okay well I'll have to find that out but I do feel
pretty through and through cancer yeah and I they say we're moody too but I my mooting is just I'm not a
moody person.
I don't find you
quiet sometimes.
Right.
That would be the moodiness.
My mom would say I get moody
sometimes with her but that's
you got licensed to get moody
with your mom.
Yeah, you regress.
But that's just a parent
kid thing I think.
But you, yeah, you are a steady
person.
I mean, yeah.
And you handled fatigue
really well or you just don't seem
to run out of energy.
I guess not.
What's up with that, dude?
I don't know.
I don't know because, yeah,
I'm taking better care of myself.
right now which is helpful yeah i like that my last tour i got very out of hand and gained a ton of weight
and i felt super lethargic but right now i'm just eating a lot less and trying to work out and
that helps with the energy it helps with everything yeah yeah although i will get gelato after
this recording oh at that place next door yeah why not you come on yeah i'll get a gelato sure
oh my god what flip i don't know i got to see what they have because there's a place
around here that has weird things like
bacon flavored ice cream and stuff that I'm not
into that. No, I want a classic.
I'd like a mango sorbillade.
They have that at the
I like glanced down the way
here. They have a mango sorbet.
Great. Which is delish.
Deelish. Let's get to our questions.
I'm all this sharing of feelings.
I know. I know. I know.
Hi, handsome.
My name's Letitia.
I'm a long time listener
and a big fan boy of your
podcast and all three of you. I'm recording here in Melbourne, Australia. You really need to come and
visit and practice your Australian accent. I'd be happy to show you around. My question for you is,
what is your all-time favorite party game and or board game? Party game or board game? Melbourne.
Melbourne, I'm not going to do it. Y'all put me in this trap every time where I start doing my Australian
X-in and Tony Colette tells me it's not good that was that was really pretty great um I mean I
I don't know where to start mafia a lot oh mafia mafia mafia is good if you've got it's what traders is based
on yeah so if you've got like eight people it's ideal I have been in some amazing mafia games but
especially back in my groundlings days yeah it's like all comedians and artists yeah so passionate
it so dramatic it was fun i played mafia with this is one this was with parv and a group of people
and with abby jacobson and clea duval and a bunch of other people and it was so intense and
so much fun yeah and clea is absolutely an assassin like she and it's just so scary to question
her like she's like seriously you're you think i'm the mafia and you're like oh
like she just is so um she's so good at it and then and then my friend
accidentally threw a knife across the table it wasn't a good story by accident but it
almost took an eye out dude that would be so gnarly he was gesturing and it flew out of his hand
and imagine if that just no that you don't want a game to go that way yeah yeah mafia is a good
party game it does take some people a minute to figure out the rules and to folk i get i'm like
guys we got to focus like i yeah i yeah i can
can get irritable okay what about you i like that mexican train game have you ever heard of that
what's that it's like dominoes but like i don't know i can't remember how it's played but it's easy
to pick up on but it's a you you like stack dominoes in a certain way mexican train there's another
game that Natalie mayn's taught me that's really fun with dice but i don't remember the name of it
god dang it i'll have to ask her so i'll tell you next time yeah um but you would
would like that game it's you need to like four or five people it's called oh is it fast
i like a fast um like with dice it's like you roll and if like you get sixes or like you know
it's like and you have to keep score and stuff and there's different rules yeah yeah yeah but that
one's i know that's not helpful to our listeners but it's a very fun dice game i like um a game if
you're ever at i mean which you will be like the Emmys
Or you're at like a really swanky.
One day. Which I always am like, how fun would it be to get some big game going with all those amazing people there?
But what, so the game that I like to play, and I play it at the BAFTAs in England is it's called Tissue Shoulder.
And all you do is you take a bit of a napkin and you roll it up into a small ball.
And then the objective is to get it on the shoulder of someone without them noticing.
Oh my God.
And then let it stay as long.
Yeah.
It's so fun.
And you did this at the Baptist?
I did it to some.
some some big names people really yeah yeah yeah so they ended up being on stage with this not
on stage because it would fall off but it's more like people are milling around after or you're
sitting in your seat and it's just having to walk by and just place it imagine getting called though
from like some big actor they're like what are you doing judy dench knocks you out
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Should we hear Letitia's answer?
I have a favorite game that's just called The Hat Game.
Yeah.
And it involves a lot of acting and miming and all around chaos.
And I think that may, you would love it.
And if you ever do come to Australia, please make sure to reach out and I will teach you how to play.
I know.
Thanks for being amazing and keeping me company on all of my dog walks.
My dog is a very bad boy.
he's the goodest boy but he's a very bad
Oh
Letitia I'm there
And I know this game
The hat games
You put names in a hat of like famous people
Or I mean you could even write
Fake grapes
Yeah you know
And put in that
And then there's three rounds timed
The first round you can describe it
Without using the words
Second round you can only use one word to describe it
Third round is just mine
But it's really fun
Because you got to remember all of them
Gotcha
I also like running charades
Oh yeah
That's fun too
Wait what do you mean running
Like uh
You, like, run to different stations and they give you the clues and stuff.
Oh, what?
Yeah.
I want to do that.
It's fun.
It's active and, yeah, you go to different people for it.
That sounds good.
The clues.
I like that.
Should we hear another one?
Yeah.
Spaced out.
I just left my body.
You know what I just, I just had a whole thought.
Yeah, what was it?
Where I thought, I really want to post something nice about Fortune on her birthday.
And then I thought, maybe I'll get a picture with Fortune today, but I won't say it's for that.
And then on the day, and on the day I'll post it.
All that ran through your head in that moment.
In a split second, I went on a whole journey.
And then I was like, I'm honored.
The other day I was eating with, and I said, I was trying to think of a word between breakfast and lunch.
And I said to this person, I said, I really was, I said, I can't believe for a second.
I thought, I wish there was a word between breakfast and lunch.
lunch because it's just brunch it's brunch but i literally was like i wish there was a word
you said i wish there was a word oh my god and i was like what is wrong with me that's really funny
belunch belunch we should get blunch going because to me brunch is still very breakfast focused
yeah it's like more pancakes but lunch is more breakfast focused or more lunch focus oh yeah because
it's more in the lunch blanche it's more of the word i don't know that's
great but how come there's no um
linner
or dunch
there should be a
like between lunch and dinner
a four o'clock situation
yeah yeah an apertief
yeah yeah I love an
appertive yeah
in Europe when you like
go for a drink and they give you all these snacks
yes or like an afternoon tea
in England with the scone and the cream
and aw
did I tell you that
no I love afternoon teas
okay let's go with the all the
trays of the scones and the sandwiches cucumber sandwiches and little pastries yeah me too
i'll hide to you they call it and i am all about it oh man that's good let's hear our question
hi my name is carrington from pittsburgh pennsylvania my question for you all today is which
historical figure would you most want to ghost you after one weird date and why you would
Oh, who you would want to ghost you.
Jesus, you'd be like, where'd he go?
Oh, that's true.
But he'd come back.
Jesus would be good.
I was seeing this really cool guy who was in his early 30s, long hair.
He had all these friends around them all the time.
Preaching.
He's a little preachy.
Yeah.
But he never judged anyone.
He turned my water into wine.
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden, one day, he just disliked.
Wait, but to be ghosted by Jesus would be really hard.
Because it's for mankind.
Oh, I see, I see, right.
Okay, yeah, that takes a sting out of it.
He was sacrificed.
Yeah, you're right.
You go, well, I got to respect that.
It's for the greater good.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's a really good answer.
I think I would I want to be ghosted by it?
Like, if I could have a first date with someone really psycho, you know, who I know would get too attached.
Just because they're...
But you want to experience the freak in the sheets.
Yes, and then they...
Yes, yeah.
And then they can go to worry about the aftermath.
Yes, exactly.
Like, we're talking...
Who do you think?
Some Roman emperor, really.
We're not...
I mean, I was going to say Emperor Nero,
but I think he was really dark and...
Oh, we don't want to go too dark.
No, I want to just...
What about Joan of Arc?
I think Joan of Arc would be too like me.
Like, gender-wise, like, would be two of the same magnet.
Right.
You need to go...
different flavor yeah like maybe a cleopatra okay but i'd be sad if she goes to me whereas if it was
some twisted emperor and we just did really messed up stuff and like he put me inside like a giant
bronze bull you know and then a bronze bowl like no bull because that's what bull i think nero put
put people in a giant metal bolt and then killed them i think i don't want that but i want some
weird stuff and it would be fun and then i go he goes i kind of want to
kill you and I go kill me next time and then he and then it goes to you yeah you live yeah not nero
the tail to tell whoever is listening to this and knows oh Alexander the Great maybe that would be
pretty hot and he was by he was they all were oh for sure but Alexander the Great his boyfriend died
and he built this huge funeral pyre for him and like it was in mourning I didn't know all these guys were
bye they were because it was just of the time it was of the time i guess yeah no one was judging
back then yeah he's murdered people if you were was it had you were done with them what was it
hadrian was his boyfriend and that's where hadrian i've never heard this have you Thomas
were you aware of alexander the gay i i didn't know about that hadrian was antinus's um boyfriend okay
who are you on it
Alexander the Great's boyfriend
King Darius's eunuch named
Bagoas was he took as his lover
I could be a eunuch as his lover
I like it when they say took as his lover
Yeah and will you take a lover
Do you ever use the word lover?
No I can't I can't
And even when people go hey lover
Hey lover I don't think I can do it
This is my lover
That's remember did you ever see that Will Ferrell
Rachel Dratch sketch
Oh yeah
I'd be like, my lover in the hot tub.
Yes.
It is such a word.
Yeah.
This is my lover.
I mean, it's a really nice way to put it in a way, but instead of like what, fuck funny.
Let's hear Carrington's answer.
My answer, Nicola Tesla.
I just feel like he'd show up in a weird cape, over-explain his crystals, and then disappear into a puff of pigeon feathers.
Okay.
wait this is a different like take on tesla than i'm used to like yeah yeah because
that he would explode into pigeon feathers and he's this sort of mystical merlin figure i like
that i know i didn't escape room that was tesla themed really yeah it was a lot of wires and knobs
it was too like intricate yeah yeah should do a quick one quick one quick one quick one
Hey, Hansoms. This is Roxy from Ohio.
I love listening to you, especially when I'm doing chores and different things around the house or running errands.
I feel like I'm so much more productive because I feel like I'm part of the conversation and just hanging out with y'all.
Aw. Okay.
But my question is, what is your favorite kind of chore?
Something that you like to do that just kind of, it's weird, but in the way.
what else wants to do it but you're just like oh yeah i'll do it the name on everybody's lift is
gonna be roxy thanks for going with me on that uh you're welcome i'm scary uh i have like a spending
problem but not for big items so just i buy clothes like online late at night like i'm just
click in clicking yeah so i end up having a lot of stuff that i don't wear and i'm not good
returning stuff so my favorite chore is to go through everything in my closet and make a pile of
stuff to donate and then and then like see that my closet only has stuff that I wear that I like white
t-shirts like basically it's this yeah yeah he just spend all this money just to spend it
because I get excited at night I think I can wear that plaid yeah double-breasted suit um yeah that's a
good one I love clearing stuff out that's a nice feeling I don't
like a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
I don't like to accumulate.
Uh, so there is something very freeing about donating things and yeah.
Throwing things away.
Merry condoing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This doesn't spark joy.
Yeah.
Um, and you do that voice to yourself.
This isn't sparking joy, may?
Do you like, sweep and vacuum and do all that?
Uh, I don't mind vacuuming.
When, when, when Jackson and I were together, she was kind of that, she was very good about
all that stuff um i don't mind the outdoor some of the outdoor stuff because when i was growing
up that was my chore yeah was yard work um so there's we have like a like a like a
the thing that you cut bushes with oh i don't know trimmer yeah a hedge trimmer yeah i love
going out there with that thing we have these bushes that uh get unruly i can imagine you like um
edward scissor hands whipping up a shape yeah yeah very but there's these these one bushes that just
grow like constantly and i go out there like yeah i feel very i'm like yeah but uh yeah i feel very
productive in that i tonight have nothing to do and but i have a list of like 20 chores to do and like
laundry and i've been on tour like i've stuff in my suitcase yeah and i'm gonna put something on and do it
like do you listen to a podcast or music music podcast i think i'll listen to some really awful true
crime probably all right i can't help myself what is that about
I think that's just what you're into.
I guess.
Maybe I'll listen to Handsome.
Like, I haven't listened since.
Yeah, check us out.
Honestly, well, well, a friend of mine just started listening from episode one.
She was like, I never listened to it.
And she was saying things from episode one that I was like, that's pretty funny.
I think, yeah, I'd like to read a bit.
We could hear some of our quotes.
Yeah.
Our early day quotes, pineapple apart.
Yeah, it goes.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think two against one
starting back then
We need more quotes
I know it's been a minute since we've created a new one
But I don't know if it's that we've stopped being quotable
Or that people have stopped
Quoting us yeah
Or like stopped lifting quotes
You guys have you gone away from our quotes
Yeah please keep it going
If there's anything in here
Worth quoting
Please
Let's hear Roxy's answer
mine is folding laundry
I hate putting it away
I hate everything else about it but I do
enjoy folding laundry yeah
I find laundry varies in
I think Teg likes laundry too
yeah yeah yeah I'd smell so fresh
and clean and yeah but I agree
putting it away no good yeah no
leave it in a pile on the sofa
yeah folded neatly well what a treat
what a treat as always lovely to see you bud
you too and thanks everyone for sending in your
amazing questions keep sending them in speakpipe
dot com slash handsome pod yeah give us questions advice whatever you want yeah or if you need advice
we have not gotten many advice questions and i'm asking for them every time yeah i would love
that yeah uh i guess all it remains is to keep it pretty handsome handsome is hosted by me
fortune fiendster tignitaro and may martin the show is produced recorded and edited by
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