Handsome - Pretty Little Episode #81

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Mae and Tig observe a moment of awkward, then give advice to a parent-of-twins-to-be, on Pretty Little Episode that's double the fun! Don't forget to get tickets to our May 4 Live Show i...n LA!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterSubmit your questions to speakpipe.com/handsomepodFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:50 I'm May Martin, joined by the effortlessly eternally handsome. TIG. No Taro. Hell yeah. But I keep saying, hell yeah. I think my friend Matt says it and I can't pull it off, but I'm saying it a lot. I think you're pulling it off. I haven't tripped up on it at all.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, no, thank you. Thanks for just really being so smooth with the hell yeah. Hell yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, girl, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I noticed it because the other night, this must have been a few weeks ago, Matt said, is it raining outside? and I just opened the front door and I went, hell yeah. Well, that doesn't fully work there. Doesn't feel like the right contact. No, it feels like you're an alien. Hell, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:42 You might be. And you're just trying to figure out where to insert your hell yes. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't be shocked if someone told me that I'm an alien who lost their way. Mm-hmm. And you don't, you wouldn't know on your own. No, I think, oh.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Like maybe when you were a child, you, yeah, yeah. And someone said, we did some tests and you're not from here. Kind of like when people find out they're adopted sometimes. They're like, oh, something felt a little different. Well, now that you mention it, maybe I'm adopted. I don't think you are. I've seen pictures of your dad. Yeah, we look very similar.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Do you look like your parents? People say I look a lot like my mother. Mm-hmm. I probably look more like my aunt.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Really? My father, well, my father's sister. Interesting. Then I look like my father. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always say that my mother was really, really attractive.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Like, I always say she was really gorgeous. And this is so rude because it's not like my father wasn't attractive. Yeah. But just for the joke, I say my mother was gorgeous. and my father was not. And I just mean in the way that... Wait, that's the joke. Oh, no, I say, which makes me drop dead cute.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Oh, yeah, that's good. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, because my father was cute and attractive. But my mother kind of had... She just had the look. And she was very up on fashion. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You know, where my father was, like, more approachably attractive. Like a more approachably attractive. He had like a gregarious, they both had gregarious personalities. And, you know, he was a little more pistol in the cowboy, but in the motorcycle boot kind of guy. Right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Not that you can't be gorgeous doing that, but.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. So I think it might be too much. If you had two, two parents who were kind of intimidatingly attractive, I think you've got to get a little. Sometimes it glitches. They glitches. Oh, yeah. Sometimes you see that with celebrity kids. with two perfect-looking parents who have, like, crazy bone structure and cheap.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And then their kids are aliens as well. Yeah. But... TIG, I have someone to tell you. Oh, gosh. What? No, it's not. I'm adopted.
Starting point is 00:04:16 You're adopted. I'm adopted. I'm an alien. What are you telling me? I'm nervous. I'm excited. Okay. I'm getting kicked out of the pod.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Your reaction is indicative of someone who, has had a lot of random bad news in their life. I'm just telling you an interesting thing I read on the internet, which is a persistent low-frequency hum has invaded the city of West Haven, Connecticut. According to many residents, leaving some shaken by an occurrence they're calling everything from mysterious to excruciating. So it's this whole city that are just hearing mainly at night, hmm.
Starting point is 00:04:56 What a letdown. of what you were going to tell me. But you're going to just scroll passes? I almost wish you had kicked me out of the podcast. Just for a bit of spice. Yeah. Like, okay, there's a low hum. There's a hum, a low, consistent hum.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And it's interfering with their sleep. And no one is explaining it. And we're just going to sort of gloss over it. I'm sure the news will move on. And is this a legit news source? Well, it's the New York Post, and they have a video of the town hall meeting of this woman saying, what the hell is with this hum?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Okay. All right. Yeah. I have an idea for a movie that I would never write. And I need you to bleep it out so no one steals it, Thomas. It's great for the pot. Yeah, and people enjoy hearing this. But I thought it would be really interesting if there was a movie where...
Starting point is 00:05:53 Now bleep out from here. Where, like, I don't even... know how to explain it, but like, B. B. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Thomas, bleep it out and then everyone go to YouTube and just
Starting point is 00:06:08 see if you can guess from Tiggs movements what the plot of that movie is. Is there a plot? I don't even know if I have anything quite, will you buy it? Yeah. Will you buy the movie? I'll give you some development money and we can see,
Starting point is 00:06:23 but you're going to outsource, maybe hire a writer and you don't want to write it. I have a meeting with a writer and I'll just do this and see what we come up. What's the title? Because maybe we could say the title and that would at least be a hint. Okay. I got a title. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It's probably exactly what mine is. Is yours full tilt? No. Mine is, oh no. That's it. Oh, no. Oh, no. Which, you know, I would definitely feel if.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah, I like that. You didn't like full tilt or? I do. I just thought for sure you were thinking, oh, no. I wish we'd said, okay, one, two, three, say the name of the movie and then both said, oh, no. Okay, let's do it. Okay. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:07:16 One, two, three. Oh, no. No, you're supposed to say yours. Okay, ready? Okay. We probably came up with the same title. So let's do it. three one two three oh no okay well oh no well we're going with oh no yeah what if it's oh no
Starting point is 00:07:37 exclamation mark the yoko ono no story wait is that like the demise of the beetles yeah no it's it's her life story and it's a biopic but it's oh h space no exclamation mark oh no and it's the yokelona story oh i was thinking it was like oh no Oh, the Yoko Ono story. And then it's still just this movie. This movie is. Yeah. Again, fill in the blanks what everyone thinks this movie is.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Should we listen to a question? Yeah. We should listen to a question. My name is Emma and I'm a palliative care physician. I was recently talking with my intern about how it is a fact of life that sometimes you will just say the wrong thing at the wrong time despite your best intentions. I'm wondering if you can share a time in which you heard yourself saying the blatantly wrong thing at the wrong time and just had to sit in that moment and think, oh my God, what just came out of my mouth. That's really interesting because I would say more than I've ever, I mean, listen, I'm sure my whole life has been fumbling over myself and doing the wrong things and trying to make things. things right.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But I feel like what I connect with more about that question is feeling really sad to hear news and not feeling like I'm sounding connected enough to my sorrow, you know, where I, because sometimes you find out bad news in a very casual conversation, especially with a stranger where they will say like, oh, thank you for putting that project out. That was helpful. I just lost. And then they tell you. And then it's, you know, you don't, you don't quite know that you're in that conversation. Right. With somebody. And then they kind of will continue talking and and then you're not really having a moment to, and not to, I'm not blaming it on the person that's sharing it. I just feel like I go into my head.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'm like, oh my gosh, that's really devastating news. And I don't know if I sounded connected enough to my emotions and words in that exchange. Yeah. And I guess you can say that in the moment. Like you can you can say that's really devastating. Sorry. Yeah, but yeah, it can be. And then do you worry about it afterwards or you feel?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah. Yeah. Where I'm like, oh, my God. That is rough. I mean, I actually had a really, really nice touching exchange that, I guess it's a perfect example of actually both myself and the person I was talking to, working through that awkwardness. Yeah, motoring through. Yeah, because somebody that I worked with that I didn't realize had had a massive, massive loss. she had lost her son when he was a teenager.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And I've worked with her on set on Star Trek. And we got into a conversation and then it led me into talking about, come see me in the good light. And oh, no, I'm sorry, no, it didn't. That's not it at all. I was rapping. And she was like, oh, are you excited to go home, be with your family, I bet? And I was like, oh, my gosh, yeah, I'm so excited.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And she was like, how many kids? You have two kids? I said, yeah. I said, do you have kids? Like, and she's not somebody. She's somebody that sometimes is put on, if that makes sense, put on me to, she does makeup. Yeah, yeah. So she's not my typical person, but she's on the show and she's not always covering me, but sometimes.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And I said, oh, do you have kids? And that's when she said, oh, my daughter is. whatever age 20 something and then I lost my son when he was a teen and it knocked me over I was I just it's that reminder of like you do not know and she was so like like what people are carrying and yeah and she was so pleasant and open and we had a moment where and I think I did go back and I was like I'm sorry I'm just like I'm just devastated like I and she and she was like do you mind if I hug you? And I said, oh my gosh, no. And we just had a really nice moment. That's so nice. Yeah. And then we were talking about Andrea and the doc and loss and grief and
Starting point is 00:12:31 and all of that stuff. And it was just a moment that just kind of accidentally unfolded. Yeah. And you're probably, I bet you're going to, I mean, that's a different context, but I bet you're going to get so much of that all the time because of the dock. Like, yeah. And then, I mean, sometimes it's okay to just say I got, I'm so sorry. I don't even know what to say. That's so awful. But yeah, it's better not to get paralyzed. Like, it's so good that you went back to it and said, by the way, like, that has landed with me. Yeah. But man, yeah, you never know what people are carrying. Yeah. I'm trying to think if I, yeah, I say the wrong thing all the time. Yeah. I can't think of a specific example. I mean, you know what?
Starting point is 00:13:14 Sometimes when I've been like going through a breakup, as I sometimes seem. to be, or I look back on that period of life and I realize that I've been very self-centered, like that some friend was talking to me about something and I found a way to tangentially connected to my breakup and then I have to reach out and go, sorry, that should have been about you, that conversation. Right, right, right. Checking Allstate First could save you hundreds on car insurance. That's smart. Not checking the rules for that new board game before you get started.
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Starting point is 00:14:17 But I want to hear Emma's answer. Yes. My answer is that after a really sad solemn phone call in which I had to tell a family member that their loved one was dying and unlikely to last the night, I then ended the conversation by saying, I hope you have a good night right as I was hanging up. So I didn't even get a chance to course correct. I felt truly, truly awful. Thank you so much for your podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It brings me such joy. I did forget that Emma is a palliative care physician. than this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's not too bad. People know that that's just to turn a phrase. It's like when the person who checks you into your flight says, have a good flight, and you go, you too.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, right. I told you about when, I mean, before Dr. Oz was part of this administration, I went on his talk show. Wait, yeah. And my mother had just died. And my mother really loved, like, Oprah and Dr. Oz. and all of her gaggle of characters. And when my mother had died and I went on his show
Starting point is 00:15:26 and I was talking about everything I had gone through and then we wrapped and, you know, they're like, cut. And he's like, thank you so much for being on the show. And I said, oh, yeah. And I said, and I have to tell you my mother loved you. Like this is one second after talking. And he goes, give her my love. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Oh, my God. And I said, oh, she died. Remember, I was just talking about how she died. And he goes, oh, God, I am so sorry. Like, just totally on autopilot. Well, my dad wrote a book, a memoir about living in Greece with my mom. And it's the story of my brother passing. So, like, at the end of the book, my brother passes away.
Starting point is 00:16:14 They moved back to Canada. So when he's promoting this book, he's like, on morning television and the woman's going, I love the book. So why did you leave Greece? Why did you ever move out? And he's like, well, my son died. She just hadn't read the book. And this kept happening of people being like, oh, my gosh. It's a romance on a Greek island. So fun. And like, they just hadn't been brief properly. Yeah. That reminds me of like when Martin Short was on, like, that morning talk show. What was that? Just years ago, you know, his wife died. Yeah. years ago. And when he was on there, the host was like just asking how she's doing or I can't
Starting point is 00:16:57 quite remember. It was a while ago. And he, you could tell he was just like, oh, I remember this. And he actually said, oh, she's doing great. Thank you. Yeah. And then he talked about it later. He was like, I just went with it. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. And he lost his, both his, parents and his sibling before he was like 20, right? I think something like that. Yeah, I was just re-listening to an interview with him because I'm so obsessed with that era of Canadian comedy and SCTV. And they're making a documentary about this musical Godspell, you know, about that?
Starting point is 00:17:37 It was this one cast in Toronto that just happened to be like everyone became a household name. It was like Victor Garber and... Wasn't it Gilda in that? And Eugen Levy, Catherine O'Hara, Martin Short, just crazy. Yeah, it was just one of those like... My mom saw it in the 70s in Toronto. Really? What are you doing with your hand?
Starting point is 00:17:58 Oh, that's weird. Yeah. Sorry, I was tossing this chain up and down, just fidgeting. What did it look like? I was jerking up. I don't know what you were doing. I just, I didn't know if you were churning butter. That was weird.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah. Should we have another question? I think we should. Hello, May, TIG, and Fortune. This is Hannah from Vermont. I suppose this is one that's an advice question primarily for TIG, but whoever's on love to hear your answers. My wife and I are expecting twins within the coming weeks. Oh, my God. And I'm a twin, loved being a twin. This is my first time as a parent of twins. And I'm wondering if you have any advice about being a parent of twins. Love the pod. Thanks. Oh, that's exciting. At first I thought she was mad at us because it was, hello, May Tigan fortune. It was like, I have a bone to pick with you.
Starting point is 00:18:57 But it's the happiest question alive. Yeah, or almost alive. Yeah. Yeah. Two little lives are headed our way. That's really exciting. And I'm a little jealous that I don't get to have two new lumps arriving into my life. Say the word and I will birth them for you and we will raise them together.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yeah, it's exciting. You know what I want to say first and foremost, whether you have twins or not, what I wish somebody would have told me is when you have your child or your twins or your triplets or whatever the hell is going on under your roof, that first year is so hard. I found it to be very hard. like with the no sleep and the feeding schedule and the crying and the burping and the diapers. And it's just, it is, you are in it. Like you.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And I didn't understand when people would be like, I didn't even have time to take a shower today. It's so crazy. But it's only one year of your life. And it's a really simple thing to think about. But just know. Like I, when I was in. it, I thought, this is my life. I am just, this is what having a kid, having kids and we're just constantly, it's, and it is, it's busy. But like, when Max and Finn hit four, they were getting
Starting point is 00:20:23 up on their own, just going downstairs, watching cartoons in the morning, you know, they could pour some cereal in a bowl and, you know, things started to get manageable. Like, they could dress themselves, go to the bathroom, all that stuff. Yeah. But in that first year, when you're feeling like this is insanity, it is. Yeah. But it's also a blip in the big picture. And I would say the other thing, we had friends that were twins. We've had several different friends that are twins.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And what they really encouraged was making sure that you encourage them to be individuals. And we never dressed our kids alike. And there's no judgment if you do. But we just really... The temptation is strong. We weren't even... slightly tempted. Really?
Starting point is 00:21:12 Not at all. And also one of my favorite things, too, is like as soon as a kid can dress themselves, I cannot wait to see those shoes on the wrong feet. Yeah. To see. The weird choices they may. Oh, my God. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Anything they put on, I cannot wait to see when they reveal themselves. Because, you know, they've really, they've gone, yeah, this looks good. Oh, yeah. Two t-shirts on top of each other. And like, yeah. Oh my gosh. Pants on backwards was constant in our house. I mean, that's so funny.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah, back pockets in the front, shoes on the wrong feet. Stephanie and I were on our walk a couple of mornings ago. And we passed this little cub that had shoes on the wrong feet. And we were both like, oh, I miss that so much. Yeah, I like that advice. It's like it goes so quickly. It's going to be a rough year. but if you can remember it's not endless,
Starting point is 00:22:12 then you can maybe enjoy it more. Yeah, when you're in the middle of it all, when you're really in the middle of it all, just know. And look, it comes easier for some people, they feel like it got easy when their kid turned three. We also never called it the terrible twos because we didn't think it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You know, they're like chewing on things. They're pushing back. They want to do. own thing. And it's so cute. And like it's, you can have frustrating moments for sure. But like, I don't think it's terrible at all. I don't like to put that negative spin on it. Yeah, I like that. Well, good luck, Hannah. Yeah. Good luck, Hannah. Really exciting. Send us a picture. Your little Cubs. Yes, please. And I'll just say right out of the gate. I'm going on tour. And there are some dates that are being canceled.
Starting point is 00:23:09 rescheduled and that's solely because of shifts in my schedule and not because I have anything against your town or your state or anything like that. And my apologies just keep going back to tignotaro.com to see if there's a rescheduling. Yeah, and check out maymartin.net. For all my tour dates, I'm going across America and Canada and I'm doing meet and greets and I want to see people and feel the solidarity in these awful times. So come, it'll be very wholesome and magical and fun. Can't wait to see everybody. And send in your questions.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yes. Keep sending them in and share your favorite episodes. Let's keep building this awesome, handsome community. Get your tickets to the Will Turn too. Sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And until next time.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Keep it pretty handsome. Handsome is hosted by me. Fortune Feimster Tignitaro and May Martin. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Wulet. Email us at handsomepod at gmail.com and follow us on social media at handsomepod. What a podcast. What a podcast. That was a headgum podcast.
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