Handsome - Rob McElhenney asks about changing your mood

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Rob McElhenney (aka Rob Mac) of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" and "Welcome to Wrexham" asks Handsome a sole-ful question about changing your mode for the better! Plus BIGGIE'S BACK!, Mae rush-orders invisible makeup, the Indigo Girls answer all your questions, and more!Handsome is hosted by Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, and Fortune FeimsterFollow us on social media @handsomepodMerch at handsomepod.comWatch Handsome on YouTubeThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Handsome via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yes. I can't believe we're on this pod. And guess who else? And Biggie's back. Yeah, look. You know, I see dogs that look that look similar to Biggie out in the world. And guess what?

what? They're ever as cute. Right. But they are cute. They are no doubt cute. But Biggie, he's got a different level. Gillesique qua, is that the other word?

A certain junicequois. And people, I haven't posted about him a lot lately, but I posted something about him like a week or two ago, and they said that his eyes aren't looking dead anymore. Really? And where are they getting that information? And I say you're right They've never been dead to me They're full of life

Listen, I know he's full of life And I don't mean it as a negative thing I have dead eyes I don't know You just did them really well for a second There all the life went out of them I do have one eye that has started to droop But I'm not going to spend too much time worrying about it

But I am going to make an appointment to see a doctor No, what, like an eyelid or what? Yeah, my eyelid is starting to droop. Some people get their eyelids done. Get them done. Well, I haven't even remember gotten my teeth colored. I haven't done that either. I should, though, because I drink a lot of coffee.

Yeah, I eat blueberries. I sleep on one side, and that whole side, I think, is drooping. And so one of my eyes, when I'm tired gets a little... I didn't sleep last night. I feel very, like... close to the veil. A visitor? I was having big thoughts.

Yeah, I do have a visitor. My life coach is up here with me at the moment. You have a life coach. Yes, I do have a life coach. Wow. We did not know this. No, we did not tell us everything. Have I not talked about this?

No. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got a life coach. For how long have you had a life coach? Yes. Well, I've been friends with them a while, actually, but they're just, I mean, look, I never, like, plug people on the show, but if you are someone like me who's kind of scared of therapy

and you want a qualified therapist under the guise of a life coach who's like, it's less pressure, you're talking about your life, you can do arts and crafts while you do it. And apparently you hang out together in Lake Arrowhead. Yeah, yeah. Is this, what, do we have a gender on this person? They're non-binary. Their name's Jen Horack.

at Jen Horack on Instagram, but they are sorting my shit out, although last night, bad life coach behavior, actually, because we're having deep chats till very late, and now I'm very tired. But that sounds like positive, though, a positive reason to stay up late? 100%. Absolutely.

And what scares you about a therapist? Good question. Thanks for picking up on that. I've had the therapists. First of all, they don't go to Lake Arrowhead. I'll tell you. that. Well, that's true. I like therapy and have often had therapists, but I don't know, sometimes it's daunting, looking directly at someone and knowing we are going to dive into

childhood, triggers, all these. There's something nice about a life coach that's like more practical and proactive about like making your life function. And then in a roundabout way being like, so what areas are not functioning and why might that be and how can you, you know what I mean? Sure. Let me ask you something else. How does a life coach charge you when they come and sleep in your cabin? Another good question, Fortune? Great question. Thank you. Thank you. They're technically off the clock. This is a friend visit, but they just happen to be my life coach. So I'm like, yeah, let's hang out on the dock. But anyway, what do you think I should do about my house? So when you're like in a session, you're paying, but you're also like, hey, want to come

crash an arrowhead at my little cabin? And we can talk about it. You can talk about all of my life probably. Yeah, I lured them up here with the promise of friendship. And how long have you had this person as a life coach? A couple months only, but it is really, I don't know, it's the only type of kind of practice like that that I don't dread. Like, I really look forward to it. And my head feels so clear after.

And yeah, so you've never, you've had therapist, but not a life coach. I've had a therapist. And then I've mentioned Martha Beck on here. She wrote that book, The Way of Integrity. Yeah. And if people don't remember, it's just a book that encourages you to try and live the most honest and truthful life that you can. Yeah. Which, of course, is not exactly the life I'm living, but I'm trying.

You're in the closet still. Right, right. But it's nice to have that awareness and kind of reach for that and lean towards that and have it as a North Star, if that's of interest. And she had mentioned that she does life coach stuff. And I have that in the back of my mind where I'm like, maybe I'll give Martha a ring a dingding. She led me to my sleep coach, who has been very helpful.

I'm still having some struggles, but I think that's from traveling. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing, though, the Martha Beck stuff of like stopping people pleasing or, yeah, how am I going to have this difficult conversation in a way where I stand my ground, but I'm also listening. Yeah, I don't know. I want to be a better person, you know. That's good. Everybody can use to evolve, right? I mean, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, and it's so interesting to hear the different things that speak to different people, you know, whether it's a therapist or a life coach or meditation or whatever it is, exercising. Hard drinking. Hard drinking drugs. I just find it all very fascinating. Yeah. And I think it's, oh, here's my final question. What, if you want to share, have you found to be the biggest? shift that you've made or started to crack open since this. Is that good question? Thank you.

Oh, that's a really good one. Hmm. Hmm. I think actually the truthfulness thing in how it applies to like over-promising because I want everyone to like me and like, so yeah, trying to, trying to, yeah, have more boundaries up front so that I don't end up in this web of anxiety-inducing. Because sometimes if you, and I know we've talked about it, but it's like if you can't do something, you don't really have to share details beyond I'm not available. Yeah. Or that doesn't work for me. That's a lesson I'm learning lately too. I'm finally just going, I can't.

Yeah. Yeah. It used to just be like a paragraph of why. Right. I'm like, I actually don't owe that to anyone. Well, think about when you get that response from somebody, do you follow up irritated? Right. Of like, why can't you?

No. If somebody's like, I'm not available or that doesn't work for me, you just go, oh, okay, when's good. Yeah. No, if anything, I get irritated if it's like, yeah, for sure, I'll do that thing. Oh, this, I'm washing my sideburns so I can't, you know, but maybe next week. Oh, no, this, yeah. I will say, I have, I do feel like I have noticed a more mature version of you in the last, I don't know how many months, but. I would say since you went to Arrowhead.

Yeah. No longer than that. But I have noticed you're not trying to overpromise and then create the web. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen some webs. Listen, they all are true, but I think all the webs are true is the title of my autobiography. All the webs are true, but they could have been a more. avoided. And I think a big part of that, though, comes from just, I was so busy with the show.

Like, with making, I felt like I had like four full-time jobs. I have more space now and I'm like, I never want to be that busy again. Yeah. It's not fun because it's like, when do you actually live your life? Yeah. And you start doing a mediocre job on everything. Yeah. Can I just tell you we're in New York And maybe I've shared this on here, I don't know, but sometimes when I'm traveling alone, I love to get on the hop-on, hop-off bus tour. Oh, I think we have talked about that because my mom also loves that. I love it so much because I find it so relaxing if you're by yourself or with people, you can listen to the headphones and listen to the tour or not and just look around. So we took Max and Finn on the hop-on hop-off It was so nice and relaxing

And I don't remember why I shared that But go ahead, what are you going to say? I like picturing you on a hop-on, hop-off buzz by yourself. Yeah, me too. If you saw me in Dublin, if you saw me in Rome, London, I love them so much. It is kind of a great way to see a city. It's totally great.

And then you go, oh, yeah, I want to get back to this and I want to check that out. I don't really hop on or hop on. I just hop on and then. Yeah. Mom pops on and that's it. Yeah. And then I'll make notes.

I just stay on. And then if something I notice that I want to go back to, I'll make note and then return. But I really don't know why I told you that. I feel like you're going to say something for you. Oh, I was just on the theme of the life coach thing. I had, I've never had a life coach, but I do have gotten back into therapy. just because there's some things in my life happening. What do you mean?

It's good. I do Zoom now, which is kind of, I guess, since the pandemic, that's more of a thing with therapy. So it makes it a lot easier. Do you try and look at the room that they're in and figure out clues about them? No. I don't have, is it weird that I don't have any curiosities about my therapist?

That's all I want to know is... Should I? I don't know. I have a lot about mine. Really? Mm-hmm. No, it's healthy that you don't, but... I guess.

Or... Should I be paying attention to that stuff more? Well, do you know their sexuality? That's what I always want to know. I think she's straight. None of my business. I think she's straight. Pretty sure she's straight.

Oh, yeah, I do know for a fact she's straight. Yeah. Okay. Because you asked her. No. Because my friend also uses her and told me. Uh-huh. But it's funny that TIG ask a lot of questions because I've, people, and my friends have

joked, I don't ask enough questions. Oh, about your therapist? Just in general. Someone knocking on my door, guys. Oh, like, you go do you. Come on knock on my door. You're saying in general you don't ask people questions? And, um, I mean, I ask people questions.

but like more specific things like I'll ask kind of general questions but then I have friends are like well do you ask more about that and I was like no I just asked the one question and they answered I didn't you know what I mean so I'm trying to do better about like the follow-up questions right right right so yeah I guess I get guilty of like thinking if someone wants me to know something they'll tell me. I know. It is kind of a fine line because I'll come home from certain things and I'll tell Stephanie something that she'll find really juicy or interesting. And she's like, well, did they blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't want to overstep. You know, and she's like, but if they told you that, then they would be. And I'm like, I don't know. I'm interested, but I don't want to. I think we're supposed to ask follow-up questions. Yeah. But it does reach a tricky point of like, do I cross over to that? Well, you can throw out the, you don't have to tell me you don't want to. You can't preface it with that.

Absolutely. You're right. All right. Who was at your door, may, a ghost? It was two men. One of them had braces. So it was sort of two boys. Oh, Mormons. I don't know what their deal was. They said... Hello, sir, ma'am. And then they said, hi.

And then they said, I just want to say, I like you. We love your home. And I said, thank you. I don't, it's not my home. It's an Airbnb. And they said, oh, look, it's an Airbnb. And I said, yeah, sir, I'm just in the middle of something. Can I help you with something?

And they said, oh, no, that's fine. If you don't own it, that's fine. Then they left. Maybe they were scoping it out to come rob me. I was about to say, I would never open the door to strangers. Even if they had braces, it's very non-threatening. That could be part of the loring of, Yeah. Do you know what a neighbor of mine was in her house? No.

This woman rings the doorbell and says, my dog ran up your driveway into your backyard. No. And the woman walked to the back to try and find the dog. And then she, the woman had her gaggle robbing the house. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So did. And just kept her distracted in the backyard. I've not heard of this. Oh, and was telling her about how she had cancer and how just was telling her a sob story. And then when she went back in her house, she was completely robbed. What if I see in the newspaper, it's like warning, the brace boys, robbers are in the neighborhood.

I'm telling you, I don't answer my door for a nobody. Really? You know, it's funny. It's our doorbell. doorbell was broken for years. I don't know if you know this or remember this, Thomas, but our doorbell was broken for years. And I just, I don't have voicemail set up on my phone. My doorbell was broken. Like, I'm completely fine to not hear from anyone. And then we had to get our doorbell fix for some reason, and I can't remember why. And then all of a sudden, we regularly heard our

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They were like, did you see that Sir Slash Man's guns? I've been at the weightlifting gym in Lake Arrowhead. I found one. Oh, yeah. Now, May, before Fortune got on, I saw you drinking a green juice. And it just really feels like you're getting serious. You have your life coach. You're drinking green things.

You're lifting weights. You're turning away people with braces. their teeth. I'm doing all the right things. I'm drinking this disgusting juice, but I have made, I've slipped, I've like relapsed into urban capitalism. Like I've been in this very pure, spiritual. But I, last night, suddenly thought of all these things that I thought I need up here. And I ordered, I went nuts on Amazon. Oh. And now this shit is arriving. Like some arrived today. It's one day delivery. Do you want to hear what I've ordered? Well, not only do we want to hear, but I also really want to spend a moment thinking about

all the stuff you have to now take home in your Uber. Go on. I don't know how I'm going to get out of here. Can your life coach take some things back? You know what? I might have to send some stuff. Right? That's a good idea.

Yeah, that's a really good idea. Let's hear it. So first of all, when I got up here, I realized I hadn't brought any makeup with me. Oh, may. You know I like a lip taint. I like a brow gel. You can't not put on some lip taint. I know.

What are the squirrels going to think? So that was part of it. But I woke up this morning and basically a few glasses of wine last night, late. This is what I'd ordered. No joke. This is the list. Okay. When you say a few glasses, how many is a few?

Three. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And a whiskey. It was a celebrating with my life coach. Hey, listen, I literally ate a donut before we started today's pod. So I'm not judging.

there is no judgment here this is just fill us in let's have the facts let's hear you know okay number one velvia 100 Fuji film number two a tripod number three a flash number four setting spray by Charlotte Tilbury makeup setting spray gel brow clear mascara um contour stick what is clear Yeah, I was curious. It's like if you don't want to look too Femi mascara, it's a clear gel. So it lengthens without Yeah.

Concealer. Sounds like a waist. Two 25 pound weights. It sounds like you're putting clear gel. It sounds like you're paying not just for clear gel, but you're having it shipped

overnight. Because Lord knows that can't wait I know it It's mascara that you can't see Yeah And I need it now I need my invisible makeup guys I need to pay a lot of extra money

For it to arrive immediately Delivered to the mountains And I have all this stuff in L.A Like I don't know why That seems like a racket for sure Invisible maskers I are not You know makeup queens by any

Stretch the imagination. And no real judgment here. It does just seem like... Clear mascara seems not real. It feels like you... I mean... I'm with you. In the light of day,

I have realized that this is frivolous. In the moment, I thought, well, you know, what have visitors come up? How else are you going to look butchy? Exactly. Yeah. Okay, go on. Two 25-pound dumbbells.

One audio interface. Two weighted ankle bracelets. Whoa, you're a fitness kick. Two water shoes in case I do go in the water and it's weedy. In case you're a shower. Yeah. Wear my water shoes in the shower. One synthesizer, two weightlifting gloves, one weighted blanket, one yoga.

Wait, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. A synthesizer. This list feels like you have not been focused on your self-help. I know. This is, I'm telling you, this is a relapse in some. madness. Seticizer.

Please bring me my zesisizers. Oh, and two gongs. Yeah. Well, it's kind of your guitar there too,

right? I have two guitars here. You have two. You don't need two. In case the indigo girls show up, Fortune. One is plenty.

Oh, it's like all the guitars in the synthesizer. Yeah, Fortune and invisible mascara. Are we recording an album this trip?

Maybe. I might. You know, it's all my areas of interest are basically cameras. I just love that you're like, I can't live without these things for a couple of weeks. How am I going to get a gong in here? The weighted blanket, too. Oh, man. It goes on, but.

Okay, let's hear it. Let's hear it. No, I mean, it's too embarrassing. This is a crazy spending problem. This is a safe space. No, it's not. But please continue. We will laugh, but out of love.

Yes, yes, yes. A weightlifting bench. How am I going to get this stuff out of here? A weightlifting bench? Yes. Oh, my God. This would be one thing if you had your own car, but you were Ubering back home. I know.

And there's a weightlifting gym around the corner for me. I think you need to send the synthesizer, a weightlifting bench, and one guitar back with the left coach. Yeah, all of a sudden, a synthesizer doesn't even seem weird after hearing a weightlifting bench. But go on. Oh, hair product. like a nighttime hot chocolate with magnesium in it. That tastes delightful. Facial masks.

Creatine gummies for weight. But like this is, I mean, this is hundreds of dollars. It's a problem. I'm going to send some stuff back. I'm going to take this. Oh, wait. You ordered a bunch of this stuff? I did order it all last night.

To be delivered an arrowhead. Oh, yeah, that's expensive. It's not good. What was it like a, wait, It was this, you ordered the synthesizer? Yeah, on Amazon. Fortune, where have you been? I thought we were on the same page.

I thought this was the list of things you brought up in the Uber. No, this is what May has ordered overnight delivering. Oh, my God. This is worse. Oh, am I the one that caught this? I don't know how I missed that. I never know what's going on. That had to have been like, how much?

Can you just tell us? I don't want to say. I don't want to say. I don't want to say. I really don't want to say. say what was it like we know you don't want to say but you have to say 1500 no it was under a thousand but i got it 999 i think it was in the 900s wow but i this is i know memory it's because maybe i got a little panicked that i still have two weeks left and i've

kind of done all my fun things like i've done my tarot cards i've done my spells i've taken some pictures we didn't even know there were spells well i don't know what i'm going to do with my now that my spells are done. I guess I'll order a synthesizer overnight. God, what could I possibly do now that all the spells have been done? Well, what if I feel inspired by the wilderness to write like a kind of Twin Peaksie theme song with a synthesizer? You make a good point, May. You make a good point.

Let me ask you this, though. Do you own a synthesizer at home? I own a keyboard that could be used as a thing. Yeah, the answer is yes. Do you need a synthesizer? Yes, Fortune. How else are you going to live in the mountains and Lake Arrowhead when your spells are done?

How are you going to get all this in an Uber back? Hey, not our monkey, not our circus. I think... You need to invite one more friend to come visit you in a week and a half. Yeah, to bring stuff back. I think I just... Fortune, can you go? I can't.

I'm busy, but... How big is your car? I'm out of town a lot, but what about Sabrina? Doesn't she want to have a trip out there? Yeah, hopefully Sabrina will come up and bring some stuff. It's like, I don't have any dependence. I'm 38. I'm like, when I buy these little things, it's like a little salt and pepper for life, you know?

And then, but I got to just return them because I have, yeah. If you're listening and you're thinking, this is excess, this is like everything that's wrong with the world. I know. Like the boxes arrive, the packaging. Like, I know it's all bad, but I'm aware of that. habit and Jen Horack, my life coach is. Yeah, that's, the life coach is going to get on this. Yeah, what does Jen think? Jen is not impressed. And, but, you know, compassionate inquiry. That don't impress me much. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

Fortune, Twain is not impressed either. Wait, is that the same girl, the same song as Yes. That's not the same. Let's go, girls. That's not, that's not, that's not the same song. Different, same artists. How dare you. You need to find I have a I love her. She needs to do a question. Well, you got to get a therapist

or a life coach that answers all your problems in the form of songs. That would be fun. Because that would really speak to you. Like if you're like, that's what the Indigo girls do. They answer all your questions in life.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like if you want to know where to go, they say, get out the map. Get out. Am I going to be alone forever? Love will come to you. That's right.

Or what if someone says? How close are you to find right now? Does that work? Closer I am to find. I guess it would be like, are you okay? Yeah, are you okay? Yeah, are you okay? question yeah yeah yeah i love galileo what would that question be um whose head was on the chopping

block there you go galileo's head was on the block i want to know more about galileo's confident rendition he's the one who figured out that we live in a heliocentric universe right he was the first person who said, we go around the sun instead of the sun going around the earth. And everyone said, you're full of shit. And that's what people said to me when I told him to dispel. Was that a witch? Who's that character?

I don't know who this is. Was that a witch? Was that a witch? Are you talking about a witch, Mike? Burn those witches. I think I would have been a witch if I was in those olden times. What are the olden times? Whenever witches existed.

They're still around. They are active. No, but when they were getting burned in Salem. I want to say that was 1700s, Salem, which. Probably I was in a past lot. What do we think I was in a past life? A witch? No.

No. Not at all. Around, around, oh, 1692, Thomas says. Oh, so you were way off. You were like eight years off. Mm-hmm. I think you were. I wasn't a witch.

Was I a man? Yeah, you were a gay man. Yeah, we've been skirting around it, but I think you were one of the dudes. I was a dude. Yeah, burning the witches. I was born the witches. Wishes? Don't act shocked.

God. You know this. You're probably right. No, I love witches. I was looking at the stars last night, and I was like amazed at how bright they are. And then I was like, okay, my grandma was born 1923. And so her mom was probably born, what, like turn of the century, like 1900. So basically my great, great grandma, like my grandma's grandma lived before electricity,

where they were like they would have seen the stars all the time. And that's so close to us now. My great, great grandma, that's wild. Really wild. Is that what, where you were like, yeah. I'm going to get a synthesizer. Yeah. It was a round then that I thought.

And she wouldn't have had these luxuries. Yeah. I was having all these deep thoughts. You know what? I can really use a synthesizer right now. Oh, well, we have electricity now. And the weight binge and weighted ankles. Weighted ankles.

What are they called? That's just after a lot of salt, I think. Weighted ankle belts. They're like ankle weights. Yeah. Did you need those? No. Should we?

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Let's get to it. Today's question asker is an actor, writer, producer, an entrepreneur, best known for playing Mac on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. since 2005, he also co-created and starred in Mythic Quest, and he co-owns the football team, Rexum, AFC, winning an Emmy Award for the Documentary Series. Welcome to Rexum. We have Rob McElhaney, also now known as Rob Mack, asking today's question.

Nice. Hi, handsome podcast. Rob Mack here. I'm a big fan. Thank you for including me in your show. TIG, you were not there, but fortunate and may asked me if I would ask a question and you can't go back on it. So here goes. Do you have anything in your lives that you can turn to that will instantly change your mood?

If you're depressed or sad or angry or frustrated, you know that you can go to this one thing and it can quickly, instantly change your mood. I'm afraid I have a very boring obvious answer Salads You turn to salads Sit your little cups Vegetables is it vegetables How dare you fortune Marie Is it your dig dust

All right now I'm not going to share it No please share You've hurt my feelings Tig, no please. Don't make fun of lettuce. You know how sensitive I am. I know you love lettuce. I'm sorry. I'll never do it again. You know what? One of my co-stars on Star Trek sent me a picture of Romaine lettuce from the company Notaro. No way. Yeah. I didn't know there was a lettuce company called Notarras. Nor did I, kid. Nor did I. Let's see. Yeah, I just when I take a walk, when I, uh,

Just head out into nature and I'm looking at beautiful things. I just, there's nothing better to me to shift my mood. Yeah. And then not to bring it back to my great-grandmother, but isn't it crazy to think, isn't it wild to think that like... She took walks in the dark. Yeah, a few generations ago, no one would have had to think, oh, I need to get some time in nature. It would be, like, that kind of piece would be much more readily available. you'd go to bad candlelight you know then get up when the sun comes up yeah i like that a walk

and do you take different walks or do you have the same route around your neighborhood good question i have a very similar route in my neighborhood you know it's funny to have an appreciation for my walk in my neighborhood seeing all the trees and the little dogs walking by and architecture and whatever. But man, having that time traveling on vacation and getting to go to the mountains and Central Park and all the different being by oceans and lakes and whatever, rivers, it's just a real embarrassment of riches to be able to see that kind of beauty and the different types of beauty. And then in the back of my mind, And I'm like, oh, I have to go back and walk through the neighborhood, which is not a bad thing.

It's just, it's so nice when you're really submerged in nature, though. Yeah. Like when you're in Colorado, probably. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean is like, like how I was mentioning after Andrea passed, it's going out on 6am hikes and watching the sun come up over the mountains. And it just was really incredible, really incredible. Last night I saw these bats.

Like I went and sat on the dock and watched the sunset and there were tons of bats were coming around. And I thought, if I had just decided to sit up at the house and scroll on my phone, I wouldn't have seen the bats. Yeah. Or if you'd been busy playing that synthesizer. Exactly. Exactly.

Think what you might miss when that thing arrives. I need this right away What shifts your mood? Yeah, Fortune, what do you got? Gosh, there's a lot of things that I can turn to, which I'm appreciative about. Well, when I have Biggie, that's a big one. Yeah. Just his little, like, unconditional love just immediately puts me in the best headspace.

Yeah, I bet you. co-regulate your nervous systems together? Yeah, well, he's just always good. Yeah, as long as one of us is with him and he's fed, he's a happy boy. Yeah. But that just, like, genuine happiness that an animal brings when they see you, that hits deep. If he's not around, which is the case, you know, going to be the case more now, unfortunately, you know, I love a bench. If I get a coffee and go to a bench and chill, that puts me in a very good mood.

Being near water puts me in a good mood. I love, like, just looking at water. I don't have to be in it, but I can just look at it and feel a lot more at peace. But you do love to sit in it for hours and a time. I do love to sit in it forever, and that's good. Not the ocean. The ocean scares me. I like to look at the ocean.

I don't want to sit in the ocean. Okay. Too many sharks. Noted. I love a lake. So, my situation right now, very ideal. But yeah, stuff like that pretty much can reset me into a better space. Wonderful.

It doesn't take a lot. I'm not a big, my mood doesn't shift significantly. Yeah, you're pretty steady. I'm pretty steady. So it doesn't take much to get me out of if I'm worked up about something. Yeah. Yeah. I think, working out.

out, if I can be bothered, will always change how my entire body feels and brain. But honestly, an escape room, it's for an hour, I'm offline, I'm focused, so adrenalized. So being chased around a locked room is part is a good one. Being chased around, they chase you around. A locked room. That's not anxiety inducing at all. But it does change my mood. True.

Yeah. It just gives you something else to focus on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, making music. Well, yeah, maybe do you guys find with shows?

Like sometimes you're not feeling it and you're dreading it and then you make yourself go and do it. And then I always feel better after. Yeah. For sure. It's so weird how that happens. Yeah. I've had moments where I've been in an argument with somebody or gone through a breakup or even got news. that a comedy friend passed away, just moments before getting on stage and feeling like

there's no world that I can do this show. And then I do it. And then I walk off like, wow, that's really insane how much things shifted. And then, of course, it's momentarily shifted. But it is crazy. Yeah. What is that? I don't know. Yeah, I've had moments where I'm like, there is no possible way I can do this show. And then I have to. And then I love it. It is, it's crazy to think of being an audience member and not realizing the different shows you've watched. Yeah. Not realizing what is going on in that performer's life before they walk on stage because you are basically only an entertainer to the people in the audience, you know? You are there to sing, to dance, to recite poetry, jokes, whatever it is, act.

And you could be in the worst argument with your partner or got bad health news or anything, fired from a job. I got broken up with once. Right before. And I know I saw it during the show. Oh, yeah, you mentioned that. Yeah. On a text Many, many, many years ago

I had to do a, I did a bit where I read a thing off my phone And it was in the middle of a show And I go to do the bit I see that I've been done Oh my God That was a Do you remember the text I got

Before our live show in Toronto? That was like 15 minutes before we went on stage And I was like Yeah I mean a quivering wreck But then the show was so full fun. Yeah.

It was fantastic, but we were all like, uh-oh, how's it's going to go? Yeah. But that's the thing, because people, audiences think they want raw. Like,

they would think, oh, you just got dumped or something, like come out and talk about it. And it's like, you think you want raw, but you want raw as long as I'm confident enough

to bring you out of it and make you feel safe. Yeah, yeah, processed it. Yeah, you don't want real. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that show.

There were a few moments where it felt like you're going to make, You were teasing going off the rails, but you didn't. Yeah, I was sipping my whiskey and just sim. I was like, wow, where is this about to go? And I was like, wow, they pulled themselves back in. And they're back in. And we're going and oh, we're going off.

And we are back, folks. Oh, God. Oh, man. Should we hear Rob's answer? I do have one of those things. And it was provided to me by the great and powerful almighty Caitlin Olson, who found it on the internet, printed it out, and taped it onto the refrigerator. And it is this photo right here. Oh, amazing. For those of you who are listening and can't see it, it is a photo of a

little boy who is opening what appears to be a new pair of shoes. I'm not 100% sure that that's what's happening. That's just what it looks like, and maybe I'm projecting onto it, but he looks like he's opening a box full of new shoes, actually very simple looking shoes, but they look new. And he's beaming to the heavens with a face of abject joy. And I find that whenever I'm feeling frustrated or angry or sad or most importantly ungrateful, I just think about that photo. I don't even have to look at it anymore. I just think about it.

Think about what that boy was going through leading up to the moment that he opened that box. I think about the billions of people on the planet for the last three. hundred thousand years that have been maybe in similar circumstances who would be overjoyed by what we believe to be the simple pleasure of enjoying new shoes so that changes my perspective and um i hope that you have something like that and if not let me know and i'll have katelyn reach out that's beautiful i feel bad for saying chased around a locked room instead of gratitude. Rob's being deep.

Yeah, no, that is so great. The photo is really cute. Yeah. Can I send you guys my equivalent photo? And maybe we can post it. Okay, I'm sending it to the group. This is a photo that gives me so much strength. Maybe you've seen it.

It's a girl holding an owl. Oh, that's cute. Is that you, May? At the power and strength that she feels with that owl as her. Yeah. That is really awesome. Yeah. I love that.

We should have our listeners tag us in if they have a picture like this. Yeah, that gives them strength. And for anyone who doesn't know or didn't pick up on where you've been asleep forever, Rob is married to Caitlin Olson. That's why she put the picture on their refrigerator. I didn't know that. Okay. She's so funny.

She is so deeply funny. And I actually asked her for a question. And she has been a little. slow to get this and I'm going to follow up and I'm going to send her that picture and just say look who sent in their question. Yeah. Do you tell her because Rob was all he was pumped. He was like heck yeah. Yeah. I'm going to right away. Oh my God. She and I did a project a long time ago and then when it premiered we were at the we were at the movie theater and I ran up to her acting like I was a crazed fan and she was with her publicist or something who did not know who I was and was like

excuse me um and and Caitlin was acting like she was terrified of me that's so good oh my god that's funny i don't know exactly who the person was i don't know if it was an assistant or publicist and then Caitlin realized this woman was truly trying to keep me away and she's like oh no no no this is I think this was in like 2006 or it was doing a bit. Yeah, we were doing a bit. Have you ever you met Elizabeth Olson? The Olson twin sister? The unrelated Olsen to the story.

Yes, I met her and she was amazing. She said she liked my work and I was trying to tell her I liked a show that she had recently done, but I couldn't think of the name and I kept going, you know, where you like murdered the person and she looked at me like I was crazy. And in hindsight, I'm like, maybe it wasn't her, but I'm pretty sure it was her. Are you talking about love and death? The one where she plays the woman who murders her friend. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. And I kept going, I just watched, because I saw like a year after. And she wasn't familiar with her film? Well, no, like I watched like a year after it came out. Uh-huh. So it probably wasn't on the top of her mind. Right.

But how many things. But I'm confident it was. Because it was at a, like, industry party. And I kept going, you know, were you murdered? You murdered. And she was like, I don't know. And I was like, okay, nice to meet you. Oh, my God.

But she was rad. She's like either Elizabeth or whoever this person was. I really want to work with her. She seems so funny and smart. And yeah, love and death is that show where she, it's her and Jesse Plemons. And it's a true, based on a true story, you got to watch it. Candy something. The character's name, yeah.

Yeah. That was good. Can you believe that it's sunny in Philadelphia? It's always sunny in Philadelphia has been going for like 20 years. That's insane. That's nuts. I know, they played a kind of montage of clips when Fortune and I were in Montreal and they were giving an award to Rob and just like, yeah, the number of hilarious things that he's done.

There was a clip where he grabs Caitlin by the cooch and picks her up. Fortune Marie. Do not use that kind of language. Sorry, Cooter. You picked her by the Cooter and held her up in the air. It's also fun to see, you know, I think especially because Stephanie and I are together and work together, it's inspiring to see a couple that is doing that for, so long so successfully and seem to really enjoy each other yeah yeah what a dream to have the

domestic bond but then also in your work life to be inspired by your partner and like yeah for sure for sure any on the soccer team i like that i want to own a soccer team i thought you said annie on the soccer team i did too and he owns the soccer team yeah they're probably not broke yeah No, this team went from like, this team went from like not good at all to like incredibly good. It's like a Mighty Duck story, right? Yeah, I, yeah, maybe we should look into pitching in on a, on a small amateur like maybe amateur women's soccer or something. We all three go in on maybe we could just buy a rec, like a local recreation soccer team of children playing. oh my gosh yeah and train them up or not train them up they'll have to sign contracts that we make 10

percent of their future earnings check yes or no if you want to get trained up you guys want to get trained up you y'all here to get trained up or what y'all want to go to the Olympics make it to the big time let's get trained up y'all all right sign here check yes or no and um you pay Yes, and we are going to own you. We're going to own. They're like, I'm 10. I'm four. We put them all in the same team, four-year-olds, 10-year-old.

I love soccer. I know you do. I just need to know, May, how are you going to spend the rest of this week? I don't say the rest of your money. I was like, I know exactly how. No, don't spend any more money. You've ordered enough stuff. Do you have any plans for this getaway?

Because I know you've done all the exciting stuff like spells. But is there any other plan? There's always more spells to be done. So I actually have one planned for tonight. I bought this stuff at House of Intuition. It's like a big shell. And then they give you salt and special incense and then instructions on what to say. So I'll be doing that.

But no, mainly like I actually do have quite a bit of work. to do. So trying to do that in the morning and then, and then swim and, yeah, maybe I'll come back to L.A. for the night. You know, what you should do is do some cartwheels. I haven't done. I don't know. Well, work on it. You have time. That's true. That way you can put the synthesizer down and, and get your cartwheel perfected before you head home. I could do it off the dock. You can do it anywhere. What if I make a video of me doing a cartwheel off a dock and send it? Actually, can you give me like an assignment for the next week? Yeah.

Work on your. What are you talking about? Did you not hear me? Work on your cartwheel. Yeah. Oh my God. Are you wanting to go to L.A. for a booty call? I am actually.

Yeah. You knew it. Can you get Amazon to overnight your booty call? No. I mean, I had those, I've missed my opportunity when those braces guys showed up. Yeah. They were in their 20s. Oh, anyways.

Thank you for clarifying. I love that you, that's an option to you, that two guys with braces in their 20s, you're like, I could hit that. If I showed up with my gray hair, my blueberry teeth, and my wrinkles, and my dumpster tits, and I was like, boys, come on in. Vava, vo, vo, boom. Listen. And my wedding ring on? I'm not, like, totally indiscriminate, but I do think most people could have good sex with anyone. I do believe that.

And if more people were, the world would be very different. You were more sex positive. It's so rare that you meet someone you could be in a relationship with and build a life with. But most people, I could, it doesn't matter, you know. You put a thing in a hole. Fortune Marie. Why this thing goes here? I'm going to do the cartwheels.

I've finished memorizing all the countries and their capitals. Like, I feel kind of bereft. I got to think of a new list. You got to write some songs about that synthesizer, apparently. Yeah. And wear those weighted ankle belts while you do it. I want to send you a video of me doing everything at once, putting on the clear mascara, playing the synthesizer.

With your weights. like that's to the wrist TIG and I will stand by that this that's a scam We'll stand by you Do you guys want to see Biggie one again? Yeah Biggie.

Oh Biggie. Did you see Biggie's little back legs doing the jig? Yeah, they were doing a little kicking there. Yeah. This is the baby. He's so cute. I love him so much.

Yes, I do. Thank you. That is a hit song, Fortune. Yeah. And you heard it here first, folks. You hear it here first. That's right. You hear it here first.

You heard you hear it first, folks. God, there's nothing better than someone accidentally saying a word slightly strange. I love it. You heard it? You hear it? I love it when others do. I love it when people call it out on me. Me too.

It's the best. Because you hear you hear it first. Here you hear Say bye Bye baby Isn't it interesting Because people do get upset If they say a word wrong

And somebody laughs You know? Have you known people Yeah They're like They get Fuddie dutty They get upset

And I I always find it interesting When people get upset I feel like it takes a lot to really hurt my feeling. Right, right. I don't, like, it takes a lot. And there have been moments that people have apologized for things where I'm like, I don't even remember that. I have not been holding that. You're going to get an apology text from Fortune about here did. Sorry, I said huge.

I would like a handwritten apology. Okay. Like, even when somebody's like, I don't find you funny at all. I'm like, yeah getting a long line that doesn't get under your skin no not in the slightest stuff gets under tick skin that does not at all bother me that's that's impressive i find it fascinating like what like oh not because i think i should be funny to them or anybody else i'm just like what what is like what are you into or what rubs you wrong about me or yeah it just doesn't tell you to tell me yeah i'm I'm thrilled if somebody tells me. I find it. I genuinely, I'm so open to that conversation. I don't take it personally. Maybe I should because it's my comedy. But I just, it just doesn't bother me in the slightest bit if somebody doesn't find me funny. Is that weird? No. Yeah, I aspire to it. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's weird. I like it. Anyway, that's fine. Don't judge me. You're going to. hurt my feelings. Well, that was really fun hearing from Rob Mac. And Rob, get the old ball and chain on

submitting her question. Yeah. I'm at Largo on September 17th. Come see me. Come hang out. And yeah, that's about it coming out. My show is coming out September 25th on Netflix. So I'm just getting ready for that. What about you guys? Well, September 21st, I'll be a dynasty typewriter in Los Angeles. And September 27th, people of Mississippi, I'll be in Biloxi at the Beaurevage Resort and Casino. Go to tignotaro.com for the rest of my tour dates, because as we know, the road goes on forever. Also, make a note, November 14th on Apple TV, the documentary about the poet, incredible poet, Andrea Gibson called Come See Me in the Good Light, premieres. And it is truly the thing. No offense, handsome friends,

but what I'm most proud of in my entire career. Mm-hmm. Yes. I'm on tour, starting in mid-September in San Antonio and Houston, Texas. And then I head to Norfolk in Richmond, Virginia, then Washington, D.C., Boston, Mobile, New Orleans, Atlanta, Cincinnati, and Chicago and Salt Lake City. You can go to Fortunefamster.com.

for those tickets. I think I also forgot to mention that the morning show is premiering and that is September 17th. That's also an Apple. So check out season four I think of the morning show. Oh also if you enjoyed this episode send it to a friend help us build the handsome community. Review us. Subscribe Watch us on YouTube. Yeah, watch us on YouTube. YouTube. You don't make fun of me.

Watch us on YouTube. Yeah, until next time. What do you say? Keep it handsome. Handsome is hosted by me, Mae Martin, Tignotaro, and Fortune Feemster. The show is produced, recorded, and edited by Thomas Willett. Email us at handsomepod. And please follow us on social media at Hansompod.

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