Happy Sad Confused - Adam Sandler

Episode Date: December 1, 2022

The Sandman is in the house! In a very rare podcast appearance the legend that is Adam Sandler joins Josh for a fun career chat, from his early stand up days to SNL , from BILLY MADISON to PUNCH DRUNK LOVE, Jack Nicholson to UNCUT GEMS, Chris Farley, an unlikely texting friendship with Daniel Day-Lewis, and his latest critically acclaimed performance in HUSTLE. This is a special one! To watch episodes of Happy Sad Confused, subscribe to Josh's youtube channel here! Check out the Happy Sad Confused patreon here! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes of GAME NIGHT, video versions of the podcast, and more! Come see Josh tape LIVE Happy Sad Confused conversations in New York City! December 8th with Kumail Nanjiani! Tickets available here! December 19th with Daniel Craig! Tickets available here! For all of your media headlines remember to subscribe to The Wakeup newsletter here! Thanks to our sponsors! BLISSY: Sleep better with Blissy and use HAPPYSAD to get an additional 30% off at blissy.com/HAPPYSAD ZBiotics: Give ZBiotics a try for yourself. Go to zbiotics.com/HAPPYSAD to get 15% off your first order when you use HAPPYSAD at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today on Happy, Sad Confused, Adam Sandler, on his film Hustle, his comedy career, Chris Farley, and his texting buddy, Daniel Day Lewis. Hey, guys, I'm Josh Horowitz, and welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Yes, it's taken us a while. I've been doing this over eight years, but we got him, the Sandman. is on the podcast today, and I'm thrilled to say he really delivered. This is a special one, guys. You're going to enjoy it. Adam Sandler for the hour coming up on Happy Sad Confused.

Before we get to the main event, lots of excitement going on, guys. Hope your Thanksgiving was great. Mine was swell. I feel like I've had a cold for two weeks, but I'm okay. It's not COVID. Just some sniffles. I'm dealing with it. I'm okay.

And we're careening towards the end of the year. I'm catching up on all the big movies. One more big cahuna to go, guys. Avatar. You guys know I'm all in the bag for Avatar. I've been a James Cameron maniac all my life, so I am so excited. Are you guys excited?

I see it in a matter of days. So that's, I think, why it's top of mind. I'm actually headed to London for the world premiere. Some interviews. Maybe a podcast. Stay tuned. Um, so yes, that's, uh, that's what I'm looking forward to in the pop culture space, uh, as well as some really cool podcasts we're taping. And then hopefully a little downtime to recharge for a ginormous 20, 23. But before we get to 2020, let's talk the end of 2020. Because in addition to the Sandler event, which we just did at 92 NY, we have two events coming up. And actually a third, I think is about to be announced. But I can't say that with that one right now. But I'll mention the two I can.

December 8th, be there for Kumail Nanjiani. His new show, I've been watching it. I think I'm six episodes in. It's great. It's Welcome to Chippendales, a dark, true story, a dramatic turn for Kumail. But this is going to be a blast. He is a super funny, super smart, super talented gentleman, and he's going to be a great guest on Happy, Sank, Confused. He's been on before.

December 8th at 92, NY. we're screening an episode of his new series, Welcome to Chippendales, and that will be followed by a live Q&A, be there. And then, guys, this is one of the biggest ones, maybe kind of the biggest one in some ways for me yet. He's never done the podcast, and I haven't done a ton with him. December 19th, Daniel Craig. Yes, I'm so, so excited. The movie, of course, is Glass Onion, which I am obsessed with. I've seen it three times. Um, I'm, And we're going to screen that on the big screen and follow it up with a big old chat, career chat with Daniel Craig.

What is there possibly to talk about? I don't know. Everything? James Bond. Knives out. That Heineken commercial? Yeah, it's going to be great. December 19th, get your tickets now, 92 NY, all the information for the Kumail event,

for the Daniel Craig event, is all in the show notes. Get your tickets now. Be there. All right. Let's talk about the main event. Adam Sandler. I've known Adam Sandler as one of those guys. I've been very privileged. I mean, look, I getting my start, as it were, as an on-camera person at MTV, how could I not interact a lot with Adam Sandler over the years? And sure enough, for 16 plus years, I've been talking to this guy. And he's just one of my favorites. He is, you know, the real deal. And just, like, so down. to earth almost like to a disturbing degree like how is this man so just normal um and he he he really impresses me consistently through his career because if you look at the filmography and we'll talk about it in this conversation he has had kind of the most bizarre fascinating dual life he is arguably the biggest comedy movie star of the last 30 plus years i mean him jim carrie ben stiller it's

certainly a, he's up there if he's not the top one. And then he has this whole other amazing side as this fantastic, dramatic actor, working for the likes of Jason Reitman or John Appetow or James L. Brooks or the Safty Brothers, Uncut Gems, I'm still obsessed with, or in a new film like this, hustle. So there's, it's no surprise that he is now being talked about for awards. it would be great to see him get an Oscar nomination finally he's never been nominated before I'm rooting for him he really should have gotten it for uncut gems that was a travesty but he's getting a lot of buzz for hustle and it's well worth checking out it's on Netflix right now

if you haven't seen it it's a really enjoyable kind of classic basketball film and he's a big basketball fan so it's fun to see him in this context and like I said it's just It's fascinating to see Adam continue to push himself in the dramatic realm. And, yeah, yeah, this was so great. And I did allude in the intro, I know I mentioned Daniel Day Lewis, and this just tickled me. There is a moment in this conversation where Adam Sandler reveals that he got a text that day and gets texts sometimes from Daniel Day Lewis. I don't know. Maybe I'm alone in this.

I don't think so. I think others are fascinated with Daniel Day Lewis, too. Just the fact that he lives on the same earth as we do and is texting funny thoughts to Adam Sandler just pleases me to no end. So that's a funny aside coming up in this conversation among many, many others reflections on Chris Farley, his beginnings in comedy all the way up through the making of hustle. So a lot to feast on in this conversation. I'll let you enjoy it right now. you're going to hear the live energy of an audience in New York City. Just for context, this audience had just seen Hustle.

And I think that's all you need to know. What more do you need? Me and Adam Sandler. I hope you guys enjoy. Remember to hit us up on my social media, Joshua Horowitz. Remember to subscribe on YouTube. YouTube.com slash Josh Horowitz. And if you're the diehard, happy, say I confused, lover.

Go to patreon.com. slash happy said confused early access discount codes to all the live events and so much more all right here we go guys enjoy this conversation me and the sandman himself adam's name hey guys hello new york oh this is a good one guys welcome to a very special happy sad confused live you guys are in the right place tonight thank you for coming out We've got a New York legend in the house tonight, guys. This gentleman I've had the privilege of talking to for many years, but he's never done the podcast before.

We're going to break new ground tonight. He is a legend for many reasons. For nearly 35 years, he's basically been the biggest comedy movie star ever around. And then there's this other side of him where he's pursued by the likes of Paul Thomas Anderson, James L. Brooks, Noah Bamba. softie brothers and in a film like this hustle which I'm sure you'll agree is another stellar piece of work I want to hear a big New York welcome for the man the myth

the legend Adam Sandler thank you hi everybody hello hey buddy thank you hey hi everybody hello that's so great thank you what's up young man hi guys Hey! That's nice. I got good sweatpants for you. It's a little chilly here, just in case we have layers. This is just, you block the gut. Yo, hey, but I'm happy to see you.

I'm happy to see you, and thank you for coming out, and I was excited all day long to come see you guys. We're excited to see you. This crowd has just seen this latest, greatest piece of work, Hustle. Is this your first time, everybody? First time seeing Hustle? Pretty good, right? Amazing. Second? Thank you. Hi, over there. I love you. Thank you so much. And thanks for watching a movie. And yeah, I think I was at this Y years ago when I went to NYU. I came up here. I think I had a friend who lived up here and we played ball up here. Am I right? There's a gym here. Was I here?

I don't know. You weren't. No, no one in my you, Josh, but we would have invited you, but no, we would. I just remember doing something here at this Y. Anyways, I'm happy to be. Well, welcome back. A lot of things to celebrate tonight. This gentleman just won a tribute award from the Gotham, a very prestigious institution last night. Thank you. Thank you. Now, I don't know, was it kind of like a lifetime achievement award? Are you okay, Adam? Do I need to worry about you? You're just getting started, buddy. What's going on? That's what I, yeah, I don't even know what the title of the award was. I saw the trophy this morning in my room. It was a, yeah, it said something on it, said Gotham Awards. It said, I mentioned a lot, I'm not exactly sure, but it was kind of a show to all the stuff I've done over the year. So I'm sure it connects to a lifetime of hard work and powerful performances. No, but, no, no, no.

But, yeah, yeah, it felt good. I went there. I saw a bunch of, I saw, I saw Ben Stiller last night. I haven't seen him in a long time. He's a, he's a good guy. You guys would like him. We've got you. We're happy with you too. All right. But has Ben been here yet? He would have a great time here. Yeah, right. Ben Stiller, everybody. Yeah, you guys should check it out. Meet the parents. Get him up here. Let's just talk about Ben Stiller's career for an hour. Love you, too. Yeah, no, we'll get to Ben at the end of it. Right. You read an amazing speech, which ostensibly was written by your daughters.

I don't know how much of that is true or not, but you do mention that they seem more interested in Timothy Shalomey than your work nowadays. Is that fair to say? We saw Timothy Shalame's movie the other night. Me and the daughters and my wife. Anybody see Bones and All yet? I was heavy. That's crazy piece of work.

It was a lot of great performances. but my daughters so they eat people and my daughters are young 14 and 16 but they were still madly in love with Timothy eating or getting eaten or whatever they love

seeing Timothy and but they were terrified at the and we were in the parking lot and I couldn't I kept putting my credit card in the we were in the parking lot I couldn't get the gate up and they just saw a movie about eating people and then some people were walking towards us

and they were screaming, open the gate, open the gate. I said, no one's going to eat you. You know, that was just a movie and then I started myself going, are these people going to fucking eat us? What a way to go. What a story. It would have been a good, that is a good way out.

I mean, well, in respects, yeah. Not for the kids, but for the Sandman. The Sandman's career. to end with a just some dude eating me think of the think of the posthumous awards that would come in in the wake of that he was on a roll and then yeah one day some guy ate the same man um do you do you ever get nervous going on stage yes do you really yeah yeah i always not now because it's like a fun nice vibe and and everybody's warm here

Yeah, no, I don't I'm happy to be with you all And then I see I keep looking at this kid Because he's a kid and you seem cool How are you? What's your name, young man? Jesse, yeah, how old are you? That's cool.

Thanks for coming out. And do you play hoop or anything? Yeah? All right, well, I'm glad you're here. Jesse seems way cooler and, like, chill than I am. Like you seem like cool, Cool talking to Adam Sandler. I'm nervous, Jesse.

Yeah, Jesse's cool. Yeah, no, I do get nervous. You know when I used to get the most nervous? David Letterman show. I would be on the side because I loved Letterman so much growing up. He was kind of like when I was in high school, we all loved Letterman. So when I get to do his show and I'd hear him doing the intro, our next guest, I would be on the side looking at Biff being like, holy shit, man. I better be good.

And the first maybe minute or so on that show, I'd always be like out of body, your feeling. Yeah, but you can't ever let that go. I mean, that keeps you sharp, too. I mean, you don't want to get too complacence. I guess. I guess you're right. It's good to have that nervous energy.

You know what? Saturday Night Live, man, when I was on that show, I would get, I would, yes. Well, thank you. Thank you. But I'm just going to tell you, like, you get this weird, my first skit I've told the story

a long time ago but my first skit ever on the show I was with Tom Hanks and I think I had one line and I just kept going I kept saying to myself I think I'm going to faint

I'm about that because it's live and I was like oh no I'm going to faint I think I'm going to faint and I think I said to Hanks I think I'm going to faint and I think he said

don't I think if I remember correct I don't remember. It's good advice. I mean, yeah, don't, man.

Let's talk about this great new film of yours. Hustle is, I mean, look, it's great in many respects, and I would think, knowing what I know about you, it must be really special to be in like a classic,

great basketball ball. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So thanks for calling it that, and I, it meant a lot every day, loved it, all the players in it, I loved Wancho.

How about Wancho, who plays Bo Cruz? Like, that guy, That guy was amazing just to get to know and just to see how great, I mean, of a basketball player wasn't, but he became this actor that just was so real and sweet and deep guy. And I loved him, fell in love with him. He was a sweetheart. Did you harbor any secret or not-so-secret dreams of pursuing a basketball career as a kid?

Did you think it could happen? No, no. I sat at the bench in high school. I just, I knew when I was like maybe in like fifth grade when I was like Jesse's age I thought I was good enough to maybe you know like

think about being a hoop or when I was older but then all the other kids got bigger than me and stronger than me and then I was like oh shit I better be a baseball player or something not worked out obviously illustriest 500 home runs yeah I think I gotta we'll see

you do It really pleased me to know, N, that you get, like, one of those classic motivational speeches in this, like the kind of that they play in stadiums to get the team revved up. Like, I could see that happening, couldn't you? Oh, man, that would be amazing. And, yes, that speech was fun to say.

And that speech, I think we wrote it together, me and the director and the writer Will, and the director is Jeremiah Zagar. And it connected a lot to, when I was becoming a comedian when I was young and when I was like seven I started doing stand-up when I was 17 so I went on stage I didn't do well

but I kind of said oh okay this is what I want to do and then I started going I gotta get good at this thing I gotta get good and I was terrible for a long time nobody laughed it I was in New York I used to go in Greenwich Village. I used to play a place called the Paper Moon and Folk City, and I'd go up and I was just, I would bomb every night.

But I did nothing but think about, I gotta get good at this. And like the speech about being obsessed. I was just connecting with that speech because I was just so obsessed about getting over, being scared on stage and trying to get a crowd to like what I was saying. And that's all I thought about.

So it connected with me with what I say to Wancho. Did you have somebody like Stanley is for Wancho in this film that kind of saw the talent that like that early on identified what you had and kind of gave you a boost? You know my parents were very just just did my mother always thought everything I did was great. She she she thought I was good looking I literally grew up thinking I was good looking because my mother said I was so handsome every day and I was like, I am, all right. And then I would hear

I'd hear some girls go, I don't know about that. And I'd be like, no, no, no, I'm telling you, you're missing it. My mother said I'm gorgeous. But my parents gave me a lot of confidence. My mom and dad, they just, and my family, my sisters, I was the youngest of four. So they just always said, every move I made, they backed me up. My brother is the reason I got into this whole thing.

My brother was a very smart, nice guy, and I was applying to colleges. And I said to my brother, what should I major in? And that's when I was 17. He said, you should be an actor. And I go, yeah, yeah? He goes, be a comedian. You're like Eddie Murphy. And I go, okay, yeah, let's do that.

And that's kind of how I got like focused on. oh shit and then my brother was going to school at Boston University and he went online at a comedy club and picked a lottery ticket for me and he said I got a ticket at a club come down and do stand-up and I said okay and I went and did it and it didn't go well but that was kind of how I got into this shit amazing it's it strikes me I was looking at the filmography and the list of character names you've played Shecky, Barry, Max, Lenny, even a Zohan, finally a Stanley. It took you long enough to get there.

Stanley was, yeah, always wanted to be a Stanley. And Stanley, you were talking about family. Yeah, that's my dad's name. Your dad's name? Yes, yes. Was that in the script or was that changed? No, no, no, I changed it to that. This guy, Stanley Sugarman, I played, reminded me a lot of my dad in the way he was

and just kind of like a hardworking, good person who, you know, was always pulling for you. And dedicated to, my father was just, he was dedicated to me. He was dedicated to all my friends about helping them, teaching them, golf, baseball, basketball. He was just a great guy. And so, anyways, I wanted to make sure I, you know, he passed away like almost 20 years ago now, but I wanted to, you know, it felt good to be, use his name and grow a beard. Because my dad had a beard growing up, and when he didn't have a beard, he looked terrible. You ever do your dad's voice?

Have you ever tried to approximate in the characters? Happy Madison, that's my dad at the beginning of a movie, a lot of our movies. You see my dad hit a golf ball and he goes, terrific. And it was after he passed away. And so that's me saying, terrific, doing an impression of my dad. But everyone thinks it's my dad. Mike, my mother thinks it's my dad. How did you get daddy's voice like that?

I'm like, and I don't want to break her heart. So I go, eh, I was on an answering. machine or something like that. It's interesting to think of the parallels between a character like Stanley and you because, you know, going down a slightly different path, making the wrong choice, et cetera, could have

led to a much different life and maybe a rewarding life in its own way. You know, Stanley ends up a scout when he wanted a different path. You know, you could have been a writer. You could have been a comedy writer, for instance, if it hadn't worked out, for whatever reason, if some break didn't go the right way. Do you ever think about that?

Could you have had a happy life being behind the scenes as a comedy writer? I don't think I could have. I'm like I was kind of in that obsession bill. I kept saying you know what I did which when I was young I told my friends how good I was going to do. I when I moved I moved from New Hampshire to New York and I kept saying oh shit people are really loving me in New York I would call them up and I'd say I'm killing there man people are digging me I did this Robin because I one time went on before Robin Williams And I didn't do well. I told my friends I did well, but I didn't do well.

But Robin Williams gave me a little like, hey, I like a particular joke. And so I got to dwell on that and tell my friends, yeah, fucking Robin Williams is it to me. Anyways, so I like said all this stuff about how well I was doing. So in my brain, I was like, I better succeed, man, because I can't go home and admit I was lying about all that shit. When I was watching the movie again, there's a great moment, as you guys just saw, where Stan Lee, to prove that he's connected, gets Dirknabinsky-Witzki on the phone on FaceTime. Who would you get on FaceTime to prove that you're legit? Who would be the easiest person to get on the phone?

Who would answer the call? I got some good ones. I don't know if they'd pick up. I mean, you got your phone right there. I'm saying, no question. I could... Should we call Conan? What do we call? Who do we call?

I guess I think there's such a chance of somebody saying the wrong thing. No, yeah, my mom would pick up in a half a ring, by the way. She is my mom literally three in the morning, half a ring. Hello? Hey, ma, how are you? Like she wasn't sleeping. How are you? What's going on?

You're hungry? I'm like, no, I'm not hungry. It begs the question. Yeah, she's just sitting, staring at that phone waiting. She's never admitted to sleeping. She's always resting. I was just resting. Look, I alluded to this in the intro.

Once and for all, it is time to acknowledge and you can blush as much as you want. Adam Sandler, pound for pound, has the most interesting, fascinating career as both a comedy icon and as a dramatic actor. Because look at, let me list. Well, I don't know.

But thank you. There's some, there's been some doozies, but thank you. Let's talk for a second, let's talk real talk, because look, the comedy career is easy. We can go through 15 classic movies, but let's also just recite some of the directors that have gone after you and you've had the privilege of collaborating with. James L. Brooks, Jud Apatow, Jason Reitman, Todd McCarthy, Paul Thomas Anderson, Noah Baumbach, the Softie brothers. Yeah, yeah. Which of these calls blew your mind when they came, when they came your way? I don't know. All of them are great people. I got tight with all of them.

You know, mind-blowing stuff probably, I don't know. I was always kind of like, it's just excited to work and be with these people. And, you know, I remember Paul Thomas Anderson, he was still young when I met. I really didn't know much about movies outside of comedy. I was so into that world. And then Paul called me up. I was friends, I knew Tom Cruise. So Tom Cruise called me up and said, my friend wants to talk to you. And then I said, oh, okay. He said, can I put him on?

I said, yeah, sure, man. And PTA, Paul Thomas Anderson gets on the phone. He said, hey, and he just started talking to me. He said, I'm writing a movie for you. Is that okay? And I said, yeah, do what you got to do, man. And anyways, I got to know him. And then I didn't know what he did there.

I know he did boogie nights, but I didn't see it yet. and then so when everyone was telling me this guy's great and I said yeah yeah we'll see we'll see how this movie is he's writing

this guy with the three names whatever how many names is this dude but anyways I then I saw I was getting ready to get the script

and Magnolia just came out and I went and saw Magnolia alone in the movie theater and I was going wow this is going to be cool whatever this guy's writing for me

sounds like it's going to be new. So anyways, I don't know if I ever get my mind blown by any of this shit, but I've got to meet people I love, you know, I worked with Dustin off, and I worked with Nicholson, I work with Duval

and this, so all that stuff is exciting. You can't believe it, because you worship James Kahn, all those guys I got to know, and Pacino, and I hung out with them, and I sit and talk, and to them and listen to their stories, and that shit on the way home, I go, wow, that is cool. Yeah, absorb that. Take that in because you have to because that's just insane.

Let's talk about. You brought up a couple things I want to bring up because Punch Trunk is one of my favorites. And there's so many scenes in that. I was watching some scenes the other day. The scene where you're on the phone with Philip Seymour Hoffman, where you kind of, you match and surpass his anger, which is saying a lot because Philip Seymour Hoffman can go big and can really bring it. And you see him rattled in that scene of going back and forth. Were you guys on the same set at that time? Like were you, do you remember? Well, yeah, PTA always made every phone call.

Everything was always the real people. So yeah, we were always together. And I was always hearing him and he was hearing me. And I remember rehearsing a lot with Philip and being together at Paul's house and doing those scenes together and him going. full tilt at a rehearsal and being, and I was, I would get scared and nervous and want to, you know, make, make sure I can, there was a reason that I was in the scene, you know, because he just took over. And, uh, it just, but I got close, I got close with Hoffman. He was a, he was a really funny guy. Great, strong. Right. You know who he reminded me of Farley? He reminded me of Farley. He had the same kind of. hour to him where he just like you you watched everything he did in the room and he kind of like he wasn't looking at you but he was always moving around and doing something and smoking a butt

and being blah blah but and i just like watching him and uh anyways uh yeah but being in scenes with him i i mean i was almost 20 years ago but i do remember being excited all right guys i'm going to be real here I can't drink alcohol and feel great the next day like I used to. It's just not a fact of my life. And what happens is I end up being the guy at the party then that just doesn't drink, or I don't even go to the party. I just skip out altogether. It's not worth the trouble.

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for 15% off. Thank you Zbiotics for sponsoring this episode. Drink responsibly this holiday season, guys, and try Zibiotics. When you look at the early films, like, you know, go with Madison and happy Gilmore, et cetera. Do you, like, were you still kind of finding your way

when you look back at the work then? I mean, you had studied acting. You were serious. It wasn't like they were just like showing your script and you were figuring it out. But like, did you still, did you, I don't know, do you remember being confident on set that you knew what you were doing

or you were kind of lost? I was weirdly confident. Weirdly, more confident than I should have, but I was just like, I mean, Billy Madison, me and Tim Hurley, we wrote all the comedies together. he was my roommate at NYU and I had that idea of a guy going to school

a grown up going to school doing first through 12th grade again and Tim and I wrote it and we loved it and and then we didn't know how to make movies we didn't know anything about it we were on the set learned a little bit of stuff from Saturday Night Live

like how to talk to a director and how to be part of like some sort of process of how to get your comedy across. But Tamara Davis, Tamara Davis directed Billy Madison. She was so cool and so nice about us talking with her. And she would say, what were you seeing? What, you know, in that scene, what was supposed to happen and what's, I just don't want to, you know, not do what you guys were talking about. And so we collaborated. That was my first time collaborating with the director and learning a lot and learning about editing room. I knew nothing about the editing room either.

Just we learned, Billy Madison was the one that we learned the most on. It's funny to think now because you are in this position where, I mean, critics love you and really, like, like, gravitate towards your work and see, like, the worth in both sides of your career now. But that wasn't always the case. No, no. And to see, like, where it started, because there was, like, this immediate kind of demarcation where, like, the movies were doing well. The audiences were connecting with it. Critics were mean. Critics were not nice to you at first.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't, they didn't, they, we, we read their reviews for Billy Madison and they didn't like, you know, a lot of people hated it. And when we would read it, we didn't expect that. We thought we, they were going to have a good time with it, but they said bad stuff. And then we said, you know, they hated it with a passion. And that, that was like, didn't hurt me as much as I was like, oh, my fucking grandmother's got to read this. That's where it hurt. Sorry for cursing the youngster.

I curse so much in front of my own kids I've got to stop Do you have a theory of why you had a red dot on your forehead in the beginning My theory is that you almost made it look too easy Like that it looked effortless Even though you were putting a ton of effort Into every joke and really like laboring over it

Yeah you know I really everything didn't mean so much I always thought of the audience I really did I always thought of who's watching the movie Who's paying money to go I remember being a kid and seeing a comedy and seeing even like Porkies or

Hollywood nights or all the Mel Brooks stuff and just laughing my ass off in the theater Chabby Chase and Eddie Murphy and like I just wanted people to get that feeling in the crowd that I used to get as a kid

just watching Rodney Dangerfield when he had a movie come out and people would be screaming, yeah Rodney and like it was a movie screen and they were talking to Rodney you know like that was those are the kind of movies I wanted to make I wanted people to just be pulling

for the character and pulling for what's going on in the movie so I mean I only thought about that when the critics started hating me I really I just felt bad for my family I felt bad for the people who worked hard on the movies you know because

I mean I had so many great actors in the movies and when we would get done shooting it, they would say to me, I think the critics are going to like this one, and I'd be like, oh, no. No, they're going to say bad things, and they're probably going to say bad things

about you being in it. Like, I remember Kathy Bates and Waterboy. Right. And I loved her, and I loved everything she did, and I remember telling her, you know, when someone brought up critics, I was like, they're probably not going to like it. They're going to say bad stuff. Maybe don't read it.

And she's like, I liked it. So that's all that matters. So something like that. Yeah, she was cool. It's also really telling because, as you well know, so many comedies, so many comedic films don't have a shelf life. Your films really do. Like the young people in this audience. Oh, yeah, that makes me so happy, man.

I mean, you probably are quoted movies by kids today that weren't born when those movies. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's the best. The best feeling ever, man. I'm so happy when kids talk to me on the streets or parents say I watched you know whatever wedding singer

with my kid the other day or something like that and nothing makes me happier it's the greatest and my daughter's friends and all my stuff and I don't know how that happened but I'm very very happy that's the best part of it for sure you mentioned some of the luminaries you worked with

how the hell did you get Nicholson for anger management? Oh man Jack is like the most notoriously picky actor on the planet yeah I was total I don't I don't even know. Actually, the guy, Joe Roth, who brought me this script. Joe Roth and LeBron, they owned Hustle, and they brought me this.

But I knew Joe from, I did The Waterboy with Joe. Maybe eight years, ten years later, he said, I got this movie called Anger Management. I read it, I go, oh, man, that's funny. Who's going to play Buddy? And he said, he goes, I'm going to send it to Jack Nicholson. And I was like, who's going to play it after? He says, no, he's not doing this movie.

And then I forgot about it. Then, like, three weeks later, he's like, so Nicholson's in? I said, so I get to tell my friends growing up, I'm doing a fucking movie with Jack Nicholson. And that was exciting, man. And I got really close with Jack, and he's a fantastic human. Unbelievable. So a film like that, a film like Punch Drunk, there have been many films that have kind of leveraged this kind of You know what's great about Punch Trunk?

Jack Nicholson was there when it played in France at Cannes, or Cannes. And Can, right? And anyways, Jack came in for About Schmidt. That was at Cannes, too. But I was friends with Jack, and I said, my, I did this movie Punch Trunk Love at Smith. He goes, I know, Sandman. I'm coming. I'm going to come see it.

He called me Sandman all the time. He always called me Sandman, and he's like, oh, yeah, Sadman. See you there. So anyways, big, big theater in France, you know, a massive theater watching the screen. I look over, Nicholson's there. He's like maybe 10 seats over, and while the movie's going, he's leaning back and looking at me, he's going like that. I'm going like this.

All right. And then at the end of the movie, Nicholson jumps on his feet. and then the rest of the crowd's like yeah let's fucking they gave us Nicholson likes it so they gave a big standing old I'll never forget that and I'll never forget that the next morning he came over and I was tired because I wasn't my body wasn't on French time yet and his body can adapt to anything and he knocked on my door like 830s like I was like yeah he goes chrisons

well yes jack nicholson yes please absolutely let's eat which is the one that daniel de lewis hit you up on daniel de lewis was a fan of one of the films wasn't he he he's the best he's just great i don't i don't know i know i know him he just face time daniel day louis for it you know it's funny he uh it doesn't happen a lot but i got he texted me some funny shit today what yeah he really is hysterical stop it like a gift like a meme what like a funny thing he saw my thing last night at the gothams and he texted me some funny stuff and he's just let's see say he did call me i don't know i can't tell you but he's funny he says funny shit uh he i'm just trying to i'm just trying

we have all night don't worry we will waste uh well no no no It's so close. I was just like, he'd probably be like, what is he telling everybody my text for? But, you know, it's exciting. Every time I talk to him, I love him so much. And I've hung out with him and I eat with him. And even when he's just eating, he makes food feel succulent.

He's like, well, he chews cool, and he looks in the eyes. and you guys need to collaborate. I know he's in retirement, but you can bring him out. Maybe, but yeah, no, no, no. I always thought Stiller look like Danny Day. Those two could do, they could play brothers. I see that. Yeah, yeah.

What I was going to mention before we had a wonderful diversion was a lot of your films have, like, leveraged this kind of identity of like the anger simmering, right? Punch drunk, anger management are very like, you know, obvious examples of that. Yes. Do you have a temper? Did you have a temper? Is that something that is really a part of your life you had to do it? Yes, yes. I've had it a long time. My friends used to go, take it easy. What are you doing right now? Why are you getting so upset? And it would go, I would snap, but it would go away very quick. I always had that. People would be like, he'll be all right. Just give it a second. It's always a good sign around a person. Just give him time. Let's back off. Don't look at him. Look the other way. He's almost done. But, yeah, no, I always had a quick thing, quick, quick, got, I yelled quick, I got upset, quick, on basketball court, I was quick, and then I'd realize, oh, this guy can kick the shit out of me, let me calm down, but, uh...

What sets you off nowadays? What's, what's the pet peeves? Oh, you know, I get most upset when my kids, if they're hurt, when they're, something's, when my, instead of being a grown adult and being, like, calm and talking to my kids to make them feel bad. better. I say, I get mad. And my wife's always like, what are you doing? You're getting more upset. I'm like, I just get hurt when my kids are hurting and then I settle down. But no, I got a little snapitis. Did you, do you always do voices? Is that just part and parcel? Like a day in the life of Adam Sandler goes into some of the favorites, like you can't help yourself? I always did my grandma. I always did my, made fun of my dad's laugh or the way he sneezed or that kind of stuff. That got me out of trouble growing up

when my father was pissed at me and I saw him get up to come at me a little bit. I'd try to do a quick impression of them and try to get him laughing. What was, so backstage, you were mocking my questionable Judaism briefly. What was that?

It only due to the, he told me and he dropped this on me and it scared me that he didn't get Bar Mitzfitt, because the... They're going to kick me out of the 90s. I'm sorry. I was so let down. No, no, I wasn't let down at all. But I was just joking that I was doing somebody.

I don't remember. It wasn't anyone in particular. Just curious. Yeah, so it's not like there's not a default voice you just go to. I usually go to some family member. That's all my family's from New York. All my family's Jewish. Everybody kind of has a funny way about them.

We're all Brooklyn or Manhattan, Lower East Side Jews. and I definitely after every family get together couldn't believe what I saw sometimes I mean your kids weren't raised here but like you are I guess reping what you were you came from do you feel like responsibility to kind of like infuse them

with that East Coast? I hit him so hard with every story and then my father said that I said my kids have heard every story about my dad my family my friends my New York stuff but my two kids love New York the most that's all they ever talk about New York and Africa

that's all we did a movie in South Africa when they were little and every time people I hear other kids talking about their favorite places I always hear well New York and South Africa and the other people are like yeah you went to South Africa

when we were three I still love South Africa I would be remiss if I also didn't mention maybe one of the last times we chatted was Uncut Gems, which I'm still obsessed with a few years later. Yeah, those, that's the safty boys are incredible. Those guys know what they're doing. I was with them last night.

They're working on a new one. We're doing a new one together. It's going to be exciting. I'm not, I, it's slowly getting there. We start shooting, I think, right now the game plan is in April. I heard you said that there's going to be a bit of a different look for you. You never know. Because even when I did Uncut Gems, things changed until we started shooting.

You know, they would put shit on me in a different wardrobe and a different look until they felt like, yeah, that's it. But this one, they send me stuff, pictures of what they're thinking, and I'm very scared. Is it going to feel like 100 minutes of a heart attack, like Uncut Gems made me feel like I was about to die? Jeez, man. it's got it feels like one of their movies for sure but it's different too it's a different it's going to be romantic

it's got a lot of different feel but definitely every time they send me stuff when I'm turning the page I'm like oh shit I never know what's coming that's so cool about them I never know what I expect well something on the production of that film

which felt like it has such a visceral raw feel like a dangerous feel And I know that extended to kind of the making of it. Like there's a scene when you're basically being choked out in the back of a car where you're basically being choked out in the back of the car. Yeah, yeah, those guys were choking me, yeah, yeah, yeah. So did you feel like, it was it only in retrospect

that you were like, oh, these guys, I mean, you've seen their other work. You knew they had the goods. Yes. But were you confident during that production? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you were. Right away, right when I saw there were other movies. I said, oh, yeah, I want to be, I'll listen to everything they have to say. I'll jump in, I'll give them my ideas and thoughts.

but whatever ultimately they want to do, I'll do. And it was very real and just really like these two guys. Actually, and Ronnie, who writes the movies with them, those together, it's bananas the way they think and how they just don't ever want to do anything you've seen before, and they yell at each day, they bicker at each other to make sure. Like, no, no, we can't do that. because they have this massive knowledge of film history

and they're like, no, that's too much like, you know, they'll mention another movie and try to just find a way. They just want to make everything as fresh as it can be. I assume you're not directly on, like, Twitter and social media, but, like, that film is, like, I feel like the most memed gift in the last few years. It just has a currency there that's really. That's great.

It's pretty amazing. Those guys send me funny stuff. Furnier than Daniel Day Lewis? Yeah, no, no, about equal, about it. No, Danny Day, even those, everybody, if you got a text from Danny Day, you would get a little excited. It's pretty great. I'm going to be high for a week on that knowledge, just that you got a text from Daniel. It was a good one.

And he just phrases it like a cool Irish. He's just funny. Sorry, I digress. All right. But, yeah, the Safty boys. Anyways, they send me stuff of that. with what Howard is on the internet, somebody doing a Howard thing

or somebody dressing up like Howard. The best Halloween costume, Howard Reddard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's probably some cards coming around if you guys can send in my way. We'll ask some of the audience's questions, but some more for me in the meantime. Yeah.

You also have this very unique career. It's like you and, like, DiCaprio are like the only two actors that never had to do like a franchise, basically. You've kind of created your own lanes really remarkably. You never did the superhero movie. You haven't done like Harry Potter or Star Wars or anything like that.

Like, is that even interesting? Has that ever been like something like you could imagine yourself in a franchise world? I never thought about it. Maybe because no one's ever asked, but I... That can't be. But I don't think, I don't, I don't, I don't, hello. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Thank you. How are you? Thank you. Thank you. No, I don't, I don't know. I'm very into, I don't know, man. I love that stuff. I see that stuff.

and I go, wow, it's amazing movies. But no, it hasn't happened. It probably won't happen. I don't see... There were rumors that they thought of you for Rocket Raccoon and Guardians of the Galaxy. Is that real? I never heard that.

Never heard that. No. Not real. I mean, is that why that's like a thing that's talked about or something? No, I don't know. I don't think so. Maybe they did, but I never heard about it. I didn't hear about a lot of things, though,

that my agents and managers forget to tell me. you mentioned Chris Farley earlier and I love that he remains such an important part of your life and your stand-up act and it's a very special moment in your act always Did you meet him ever? No, he paid him.

He never got to him? Ah, yeah, yeah, because I know you for so long I thought maybe you might have met him, but yeah. But I'm curious, like, it also struck me when I was thinking about your collaborations and your friendship, you worked together obviously but you never did like a two-hander film. Was that ever in the sense?

With Farley? Man, that would have been. great. I mean, we talked about it, I'm sure. We loved he loved plane trains and he loved John Candy a lot. And yeah, I think we probably talked about doing stuff together, of course.

It must make you feel like all these years later, like you, every night of your tour, you feel connected to him. It must be an amazing kind of like resurrection in a way. It's pretty funny because I play the song about Chris and I do it when I tour and it's at the end of the show

when I play it. And I do, every show we're about to play it, go, all right, here we go. And the first few times we play that song, I would tear up and I couldn't really sing it well because I get so emotional. And then I got kind of like, I felt it and was able to get it out there. And it's weird, but when that song starts, I go, oh, fuck, all right, don't, don't cry and Don't do that. Still, I've sang it maybe a hundred times already, but it rocks me. I think it's because we show video of Chris and I see his face and I remember his dad and I remember, and I'm friends with his brothers and his mom and everybody and they still miss him a lot. And anyway, so yeah, it gets me. I love hearing the crowd go nuts for Farley. Every show I do by far the

biggest applause of the night is talking about Farley and any time I mention his name here in the audience go nuts. Feels great. Spade. David came out on my last, I did a bunch of shows a couple weeks ago and David came out and did five shows

and he's like, man, sometimes I can't listen. I got to walk away because I get so upset. We love them. We love them so much. It's a special time of year. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was, he was, he was, he was as cool as it gets.

Special time of year, probably in the Sandler household and everywhere, the Hanukkah song, is that in heavy rotation? I sing it, yeah, I sing it every morning. Every morning the kids are like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm singing the song again. And I just say, put on your yarmaca. They're like, all right. No, no, no. I'm so proud of that song.

I love it. I love that I lucked out. I just, actually, I just showed my kids. I don't know how much they cared, but I was on 56th and Broadway. And I was walking on, and I said, hey, right there. And I pointed right in front of that diner. That's where old daddy thought of the Hanukkah song. And they were like, oh, yeah, what happened?

I said, I don't know. I think I was just right there as walking to Saturday Night Live. And I went, oh, maybe it would be funny to do a song about Hanukkah and say, mention that there's not a lot of Hanukkah songs. And then just show, like, in the songs about Jewish people and who also, you know, celebrate Hanukkah and that kind of thing. And I was so excited, man, when I thought of it, and I got to work. And I told two guys, Steve Korn and he and Max Stone Graham about that idea,

writers on Saturday Night Live, and they laughed, and we just wrote it, knocked it out. Did you have celebrities that were either in the song or left out of the song come to you afterwards, either happy they were in it or unhappy that they weren't in it? Yeah, yeah. I had, everybody was very, everybody was nice, everybody was happy, and actually Harrison Ford, I think I say Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish, right? Yeah. Because back then, when I wrote it, it wasn't, I don't think Google was around. So I was like going off of something.

I don't know. He's a quarter Jewish. I remember when I met Harrison Ford, he goes, half. Amazing. Amazing. All right. So here's some questions from the audience. I believe it's Arianna.

I hope I'm pronouncing that correct. How does it feel to be a fashion icon? Who is your inspiration? Yeah. Wow. Thanks, Ariana. Love you, Ariana. Thank you.

I love you. And thanks for bringing that up. I, my kids don't like... Actually, my kids are yelling at me for this shirt. We missed a T-shirts, Daddy. Why are you wearing golf shirts? I was like, can't Daddy try to be comfortable? I will have you know.

I was debating tonight because I know... You do. I wasn't going to... dress up? Yeah, I just like, do I do, do I go formal? What if he's the one night he dresses formal and I dress casual? Thank you for being the Sandler I know. You got it, buddy. You look cool. That seems like a nice shirt, like comfortable. No, not comfortable? It's all good. Solid, you look good. My dressing has been a difficult time, difficult throughout my career. I've been yelled at by many people. Lauren Michaels. I remember

Lauren Michael, oh, when I was on Saturday Night Live when I was young. Like, I used to go on weekend update and I was like 20 so I got on that show when I was 23 and then I around 24 I started getting on weekend update and Lorne wanted me to wear a suit jacket so the first couple of updates I wore suit jackets and I would watch watch him back and I'd be like oh something's weird man something weird and I always was not comfortable and then I remember somebody said to Lauren, you should let him dress the way he dresses around the office or something. And Lauren goes, all right, try that. And I like, I just felt so much freer because I don't know why I hated suits.

So my suit jackets got me so angry and itchy and I was ridiculous. It puts me in a bad mood. I had a suit on at the Gotham Awards. I was fully in a bad way. I just couldn't wait to get it off. and I always take my suits off. Whenever I have to wear a suit, I come home, and there's like three different rooms

with a different article of suit while I'm walking. I'm like, God damn, jacket, stupid shirt. But anyways, I have been dressing like this a long time, and I just like comfortable. Comfortable, go for the comfortable. We want you happy. This is from your number one fan, Melvin. Melvin?

Yeah, Melvin. You know Melvin. Melvin, how are you? Hey, Melvin. Good to see you. Oh, that's so cool. Happy birthday, Melvin. I love it, man.

Nice to meet you, man. And nice to meet your wife. Happy birthday, Melvin, and a great question. What similar characteristics do your characters have in common, such as Stanley Sugarman, Sonny Kofax, and Michael Newman? I guess, yeah, like, which do you connect with most, When you think back to the body of work, which are you closest to? Yeah, well, those are all guys that are very similar to me.

You know, Big Daddy guy was similar to who I was back then. Click, I was similar to that guy. This guy, I'm Stanley Sugarman. I have similarities to him. They all, those kind of, those three and a few others feel kind of like how I am in real life or the way I react. Maybe in real life I can not be as lovable. And, you know, I don't always make the right decisions in real life that I do in the movies by the end of a movie.

But I, yeah, I always, I feel, I always felt comfortable as those guys. And they kind of connected to me and who I am. But happy birthday, man. And thanks for coming to hang out with, and you've got a cool wife. Thank you. Good taste. That's great. All right on.

I like the wording of this. This is from Nicky. Was there a pivotal point in your career where you just, I'll say for Jesse's sake effing new. This is it. Get your friends and go time. Oh, okay. Pivot point in, yeah. Nicky wants to know, like, was there a pivot point in your career where you just knew?

This is it. It's go time. That's a good one, Nicky. I mean, I kind of, Billy Madison was probably the one that we went. Come on, let's go. I was in a few movies before that, and I loved being on the set, and I loved everything about it. But then all of a sudden, Billy Madison is when we started going.

Come on. Just all my buddies, we all got together, and we're like, let's do what we think is funny. and then we didn't stop doing it together and we made a bunch of movies together, yeah. That was the one, probably, Billy. One thing I meant to ask about that. You have this core group that you've been working with for decades and it's really great to see just like

how enjoyable the experience can be. Like, why surround yourself with jerks? Surround yourself with good people that you love. Right, right. That seems to be the ethos. It's also fascinating. I don't know if this was just you being a genius or being lucky, the shift, you made this big deal with Netflix

back in like 2014 and at the time people were like this guy's crazy like what do you do? Like you're making amazing movies and theaters keep doing theaters and it's hard to find comedies in movie theaters nowadays that succeed and you in retrospect now look like a genius

you have found this amazing home you have a bigger audience arguably than ever thanks to this worldwide audience from Netflix were you seeing like a change a shift happening or was it just No. I lucked out. I lucked out. I mean, everyone around me, my brother, Netflix kept calling about me doing movies for them, and I didn't really even know what Netflix was. I really was that dumb. I didn't, but so I've told this story, but what happened was Ted Sarandos, who was running, who runs Netflix, and it's his company. He came to visit me. He kept saying, do a movie for us.

And I would say to my brother, what is Netflix? I don't even know what that is. And he would tell me, and I'd say, like, I don't know, man. And then Ted came up, and I loved him as a guy. And he was like, just talking about streaming and what it is and what's going on. What was that? Was that a bug or something? We have a fly.

We have a fly situation. Wow. I was like, I literally thought Timothy Chalemay was about to eat me. the fuck is ha ha ha ha ha no wow that scared me Jesse you didn't do nothing

you didn't protect me you let that fly get me if I see it come around again I'm going to protect you I promise well you were on break all right yeah you just relax you're right I was very presumptuous

of me that make anyways at least give me a head nod if you see that thing coming Anyways, Ted was a great guy And he talked about his streaming and all that And I said, so I said, well, he's a nice guy, man I like to work with him, but I don't know about Netflix

But it was interesting what he told me about it And then I was shooting when he visited me in Canada I was in Toronto and I left the house with him And I'm walking down the street And I saw these two kids like 15-year-old kids On a porch And it was a Friday night and I said to the

I'm walking by the kids I go hey what are you guys doing this weekend you go I said what are you guys doing it is where they go watching a movie and I go yeah you're going to the movies

they go no on Netflix and I went oh yeah okay if the young the young kids are into that's probably going to be the way it's going they kind of the youth usually

knows what's happening and I was like all right let me give it a shot and I loved it I just got really close with Ted and everyone at Netflix and so many nice people I became friendly with over there. So I have a great relationship. And you're able to do everything. I mean, hustle, Myrowitz stories.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do it all, whatever you want. I mean, they are into everything. Netflix wants to do everything. And getting to do comedies is incredible, getting to do dramatic stuff, and they get it out there. And it's all around the world. And it's cool. Looking ahead, we've got Spaceman in the Cann.

Mary Mulligan, an amazing cast. That's a drama, I believe, right? Yeah, yeah. We've got the murder mystery sequel. Yes, that's supposed to come out at the end of March. Yeah, yeah, that'll be nice. Jennifer Anderson, is a great person. Nice person.

And you've also mentioned, talking about some of these amazing filmmakers, is Noah Baumbach potentially someone you might re-team with? I think so. I think so. He's writing a movie, yeah, yeah. He's an amazing guy. He does great stuff. And he's just a nice person, too.

I'm doing a lot. I have an animated movie. You know Robert Smigel? Who Robert Smigel is? Triumph. Yeah, yeah. He is directing a movie that we wrote together, and we've been working on it for a long time,

and actually Paul Sato helped write that, and I think it comes out next November. We've been working on it. It's a musical. It's about elementary school, graduating elementary school, and getting ready to move into junior high and being scared into middle school and being the nerves of that.

For someone that loves music and singing as much as you do, you haven't done like the non-animated musical. No, no. Where is your cats? Where is your... I can't dance. I wish I could dance. I would do a lot of musicals.

But I like, I feel comfortable with a guitar on and singing, but I have a musical. I don't think I would look too smooth. One other filmmaker I want to mention Todd Field. Are you guys potentially talking? Todd Field, who people that know, a brilliant director, has just directed Tar, an amazing movie. Yeah, yeah.

He's, I know him a long time, too, and I love him. And he's got an idea we're talking about. You never know. Everything you talk about, you get excited to do, but until you're shooting it, you never know. But we're excited to do this cool movie to, A lot more to talk about in the future. Look, it's always a good sign when months after a movie is out,

we're still talking about it. This is a great one. This is special one. Is this audience going to attest to? Hey, thank you all. It's fantastic. Happy birthday. And I just want to say, guys, as you can tell, this guy is the real deal.

I've had the privilege of talking to him for many years, and he is exactly the same when he walks off the stage as when he walks on. He's the real deal. Give it up one more time for Mr. Adam Sandworth. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Love you all. Thanks for coming out, Josh. Thank you. And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley

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