Happy Sad Confused - Ben Schwartz, Vol. II

Episode Date: January 14, 2020

Josh welcomes the very busy Ben Schwartz back on this episode of "Happy Sad Confused". Ben's got 2 big movies on the way--"Sonic the Hedgehog" and "Standing Up, Falling Down". And yes, Josh and Ben ta...lk about both but also ramble down tangents ranging from the Oscar nominations to Ben's contributions to "The Rise of Skywalker". Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:02 Happy, sad, confused begins now. Today on Happy, Said Confused, Ben Schwartz returns with two big films in February, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Standing Up, Falling Down. Hey, guys, I'm Josh Harrow. It's welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Yes, very excited to say that Ben Schwartz. back on the podcast. I feel like he's been on many times, but the truth is only once. Oh, wait, I think he called in another time. Not that we're, it makes it sound like we're like a drive time call-in show, but maybe we called him. That being said, this is his second official full-on
Starting point is 00:01:45 appearance on Happy, said, confused. Ben is one of the funniest, most talented humans on the planet. Hopefully he's not listening to this because I don't want him to know that I acknowledge that. But yes, he's a friend, he's an exceptional actor and one of the top improv artists on the planet. If you haven't seen Middletch and Schwartz do their thing, I highly recommend you go see one of their shows. They do it like no one else can. And excited to say that Ben told us on the podcast today that you'll be able to see it in the comfort of your own home soon enough. his long form improv with Thomas Middletch has been taped and is going to be
Starting point is 00:02:30 available in some different forms on a mysterious outlet at a mysterious date TBD. The operative word is mystery. What is not mysterious is that Ben has a lot of things going on. He's got two big films coming out next month in February. You won't be able to miss Sonic the Hedgehog. This is, of course, long in the making. this big budget interpretation of the classic video game character. Ben, of course, is the voice
Starting point is 00:02:59 of Sonic. Jim Carrey's in it. James Marsden's in it. I can't wait to see it. It's going to be big and fun and awesome, I'm sure. Also, worth mentioning, and I have seen this one, and I can vouch for it, it's a great piece of work, is standing up falling down. This is a real two-hander, a small independent film, but some real juicy stuff for Ben alongside the great Billy Crystal. of smart, funny, touching, all the good things. It comes out on February 21st in theaters and on VOD. Seek it out. It's a special one.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It was a blast talking to Ben. We talked about the movies. We talked about, you know, we geeked out about Star Wars and video games. And, of course, Oscar nominations are out. So we talked a little bit about just what movies we liked in the last year. How do I feel about the Oscar nominations? I'm glad you asked. I had the same kind of issues that everybody did.
Starting point is 00:03:51 you know, the obvious omissions that I was disappointed in. It would have been fun to see Jennifer Lopez, of course. I really was polling for Adam Sandler in Best Actor. I wanted to see Lupita Nyango in Best Actress. Certainly, there is not enough diversity in the acting categories this year, sadly, again. Certainly, we need to break down this cycle of all-male nominees and director. That being said, I think all the directing nominees are worthy. Greta Gerlig, I think, did a fantastic job, so I understand the arguments for having her in there. I would have been perfectly happy and thrilled to see her get a nomination.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I'm glad she got nominated for writing, and I'm thrilled that Little Women is a Best Picture nominee. It's certainly one of my favorites. In fact, I would say, honestly, all nine best picture nominees this year, I liked all of them. I loved some of them, and I liked all of them. So I don't have major complaints in that. I'm excited to see the Oscar ceremony. I kind of wish there was a host.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I don't know why we're, like, part of the fun of the Oscars is seeing someone just kind of own the stage and do their thing. So I think that's something that I'm not thrilled at the last couple years they've been doing. But I'll be there. I'll be watching. I love me a good Oscar show. And there's some good movies that are worth celebrating this year. So, yeah, that's my take on the Oscar nominations. We also talk a little bit about it with Ben, partially in jest, but partially seriously, too, as most of our conversations go.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I'm going to get to the main event. Ben Schwartz, as I said, he's got two great new projects worth seeking out next month. Sonic the Hedgehog out on Valentine's Day and standing up, falling down, out February 21st, mark your calendars. Remember to review, rate and subscribe to happy, sad, confused, spread the good word, and enjoy this chat with Mr. Ben Schwartz. Man, I hope you bring it today. What do you mean? As if like the last few times I haven't? I just really hope you bring it.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I hope you really have good questions. That's not what I do. We've done this enough to, you know, that's not what I bring to the table. I think you have greatness in you. Really? I'm going to shut off my phone. Yeah, please, be professional for once. Look at you.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Oh, you're an on-camera fancy clothes today. You're not in like your onesie, your normal. You heard of the God damn New York Times? You heard of it? No. I'm more of a New York Post kind of guy. Hey, I read the post too. But for sports, you don't like sports.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So what do you read the post for? I do like sports. Name one sport. High lie High lie is correct I bet on high lie So you go to that post a lot So you can, okay
Starting point is 00:06:23 They have the best New York high lie coverage Josh, we're rolling? What? Rerolling? Yeah, you see the red light Can I ask you a question? A lot of people
Starting point is 00:06:32 are calling this the interview this entry This one that hasn't Let me finish And I'm just afraid that You're not going to bring it Don't worry, it's okay You're not going to bring it
Starting point is 00:06:42 Meaning you're not Yeah, no, I'm here, I am present I'm always present Look at We have a lot eyes for the next 45 minutes. Do you look at Michael Shannon in the eyes when you interview?
Starting point is 00:06:52 I look lower down the body. I want you to... God damn it, Josh, can I tell you something? They can't see that you've put your hands uncomfortably on my table and closed your eyes just so you know. Do you know what this works? Can I tell you something, Josh?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Josh, I'm just afraid you're not going to bring it. Have you ever podcasted before? This is my first one. Really? Am I doing well? I give you a B-minus. Happy, say I'm confused. Can I ask you a couple questions about the podcast?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Sure. Okay. you see you don't actually have a question now you're just making it up you're you said for your last podcast episode you're going to do something crazy yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna murder you're gonna murder me on your last podcast is this last one or no I don't want to spoil it you gotta say it on the end a lot of people are saying you're not gonna bring it happy Oscar nomination day thank you I really worked my butt off for this one but I feel like we got there a parasite to me was a movie that I had to make
Starting point is 00:07:45 the class system is it's flawed and um so i was like why not show to do i feel like it's perfect the way it is no it's and i wanted to show it in a vertical way because the last film i did was more of a horizontal way it's no piercer so for me to do it in like a vertical top to bottom way i thought really resonated um i thought it was beautiful i storyboard everything i do before i do it extensively can i interrupt your lie yeah um jalo how are you feeling about the omission i mean jennie from the bronch you talking about yeah there's only one as a bronx native as a river Dale native, I'm upset that she isn't represented. Also, it's weird to me that standing up falling down didn't get the Oscar nom we were hoping for both Billy and I.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I was going to plug your movie. Standing up falling down available February 21st. Like most Oscar movies, this one's available on VOD the first day it's out. Which do you think has a better chance at Oscar nom's? Standing Up Falling Down or Sonic the Hedgehog? Sonic the Hedgehog for, I think, computer for graphics probably. Computer graphics. You have this terminology, like, totally down.
Starting point is 00:08:47 What's the computer graphics one called? Visual effects, yeah. I mean, I think so. It's gorgeous. I haven't seen it. I've only seen the, you know, the trail. I'll play it right now. Here.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Oh, he's taking out. Okay. He has, he has a giant flat screen TV. You can't show anybody. Okay, okay. I'm just going to show the first two minutes. Okay, okay. I've played.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Hi, I'm Sonic the Hedgehog, and this is my movie. My character in the movie, I narrate the whole. Yeah, he's paused it just so you know. Oh, my goodness. You really pulled a Horowitz, didn't you, huh? What? Can I pause it here? Can I just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:19 So in the film, anytime someone does something real stupid, we call it a Horowitz. Is that, what? Not after you. It's a different guy. You may be asking yourself, why do I call it a Horowitz? Josh Horowitz. Okay, can I pause it? Can I pause?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah. I can't believe I'm showing you this. I will get, Paramount will kill me that I'm showing you the first five minutes of this film. Okay, you just said that has nothing to do with me, and then it literally says my entire, like my entire name. Oh, okay. Well, you haven't seen the whole movie. I don't want to run it for you. We'll just stop it there.
Starting point is 00:09:44 But it's great. Can I tell you some of them? Have you seen the movie? Of course. Kidding me? I've seen many versions of it. Are you okay? Let's talk about the controversy.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Let's get it out of the way. Oh, wow. Let's get it out. Let's get it out. I will diplomatically talk about the controversy. Okay, the controversy was that the first... You will bring it. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:10:05 The first trailer came out and we could see Sonic's penis, and that was the controversy, right? Yeah, a lot of people are talking about that first trailer came out, and they're like, it seems like it's too much penis. Yeah. It was like, all. all over the place. No, it's a GPG type movie. We don't need that. And then the second one, I think you don't even see it at all. And I was looking very, very intently. Can I say great interviewer, great questions? You love to talk about superhero's butts. One of your
Starting point is 00:10:26 favorite things. Sadly, that is true. That's unfortunately true. I watch your YouTube videos. I'm a fan. I think you ask great questions. But you love Tushies. You love Tushies. As my mommy would say, you love a good Tuchus. Yeah. Yeah. Love a good Tuchus. Do you have any visual games? You wait for the Sonic junket. There's going to be a lot of ass talk. You asked me a question once for the Sonic red carpet at CinemaCon. Did I ask about Plastic Man? And then it went around the internet.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And I was like, the power of Josh Horowitz is unbelievable. And now you've been cast as Plastic Man. No, I'm cast as Plastic Man. Isn't that incredible? It's hard to say. Cast as Plastic Man. Has it gone anywhere? Have we made some magic out of that?
Starting point is 00:11:07 I guess that video did nothing. In retrospect, actually. I wonder if they have a script or not yet. But that video is nothing. Okay, the controversy. The controversy. There's no controversy. Everybody loves Sonic the Hedgehog.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Thank you. You're the best. Yeah. I'm going to redirect. I'm excited about this. The new trailer looks amazing. I really... It looks legit funny.
Starting point is 00:11:24 All right. Yes. They let me improvise. Jeff Fowler is a beautiful director. He let me improvise. I got to play with my words a bunch. And he... Everybody cared enough to make it good.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That they kept letting me come in and do more and more ad jokes, play with jokes, do jokes. Watch the movie a bunch, see where I can do better and worse. and I would, just because I really wanted to be good, I would ask Jeff, can I come in again and see the movie before our next ADR session if there's anything can play with, and he would be, of course. So I got very lucky that they let me play a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And also, Jim Carrey, have you seen it? No, they don't show me anything. I'll press play right now, okay. Oh, my God, another horowitz? Okay, I've got to pause again. So he's amazing in it. Jim Carrey, and he feels like old school nine, I mean, not to say he's amazing and everything,
Starting point is 00:12:05 but like he has that feel of when I grew up with him as a kid. It's like, he's so funny, man. What, um, so when did you actually break bread with Mr. J.C.? I've only met him twice. Okay. Once was on the set when I was there to do some script stuff, I think, to read the script out loud, I think, so they can record it. And then the other one was for press for cinema con.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Right. And it was like meeting, you know, you've seen his face. So I feel like there's a lot of times in this industry, you must go through this all time because you interview like the biggest people that it's like, you know somebody's face so well. And then, uh, you meet them. And when you meet them, they're that person's face still. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:40 until you talk enough with him that they're a human being but like when I met Cheeto for the first time before I did the show with Chas Eliza him it's like oh that's Don Cheadle even when you're talking for the first time
Starting point is 00:12:48 he's still Don Cheadle until like it takes like 15 minutes you're like okay you're a human being same with Jim Carrier's like oh I mean I just see Jim right now and then slowly you talk about real life stuff and like okay great now you're a human being
Starting point is 00:12:58 stuff like that has he do you think he's gonna do a painting of you that would be nice oh my god that'd be amazing would be great oh my god that'd be amazing I hope I get to spend more time with him because I would
Starting point is 00:13:06 I only got to ask him a couple questions about Ace Ventura, which he was totally cool with it talking about. But I haven't gotten to talk to him yet. How many actual days have you worked on this movie? In terms of being in the booth, is that considered a day? I'm just curious. Many, probably 20 something. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:13:22 So by the standards of an animated film, that's actually a lot. Yes, and some of these, yes, a lot. And because also I did the test. Right. Then after the test, we did a little ADR for that. And then we sold it to Paramount. And then I would do the, you know, I did the table read, then a little punchy thing.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And then I went to set and I did it again. Then I came back and actual record things. I probably did 14 or something. Maybe more. We did a lot. And also temp VO. You'll send temp VO over the phone just so they can slot it in until you come in.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Right. So it's like a lot, which is good because I wanted to be as much a part of the process as they would let me. I mean, it's a $90 million movie. Yeah, and you get like $80 million of that. I get $80 million.
Starting point is 00:14:00 That's your quote is actually, I'm going to say it's a little bit, I don't know, it's a little balzy to quote $80 million for voice. They didn't mean more than $10. Yeah. And by the way, I mean, Can I tell you something? I bring $80 million towards this movie.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I brought an $80 million performance to this movie. So I think that's what they call you, 80 million shorts. Yes, yes. I'm not really, okay, so I played Sonic, obviously, as any. Which one did you play? Red-blooded American, Sega Genesis. The first one? The first one.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Was there a hang glider in the game you played or the first one? I mean, we're talking 25 years ago. Give me a second. 1999, maybe. By the way, I notice you play a lot of video games. Sure. Do you know there are new video games out there? because you're playing all the old stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's a great question. Newman, Cruz. He's referring to a poster, not just having a spasmodic fit. That was my grocery list. I have to get Paul Newman cookies. Have you had the Figg Newman's? Oh, they're great. Give me a break.
Starting point is 00:14:54 What are you crazy? Figg Newman? I love it. I do know, I play, there's an independent game I love called Inside. You ever play that? Independent game. What does that even mean? Like an underground?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Do you have a, what do you have? Do you have anything or no? Nothing. I'm an adult man. I don't... I'm an adult man. I have many's. But I learned that I have to complete games, so I can't start the new ones that takes so long to beat, because I would just play them. I would be addicted to it, and I would play it. I have to, like, the last... I bought Tomb Raider and I beat that, but inside it was like four hours or something of that. You need a simple one so that you can actually live a life.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yes. But I bought Mario Odyssey, and I beat that, and then I bought Breath of the Wild. Like, I bought, like, Breath of the Wild from Zelda, I beat, and then I beat Link's Awakening. like I beat it on the switch because when I tore I can play a little bit but when I spend too much time that or when I'm on like Instagram for too long or Twitter I get so upset at myself
Starting point is 00:15:44 that I should be writing or I should be doing work that I think we're gonna learn that Twitter and Instagram has made us I'm not even doing a bit take shits poorly I think when everybody's going to the bathroom and on their phone their brain isn't functioning
Starting point is 00:15:56 to help them go to the bathroom they're not doing it efficiently and smartly yeah and I think it's just taking us away from like human being interaction so you've just to get on granularly on your God, I can't believe you're bringing it.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Nobody thought you were going to bring it to them. Well, okay. No one knew you were coming except for literally you and me. Right. Well, Elis knew. Elise is behind me. Elise knows. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:13 That's Elise. So when you're currently, in the last couple years when you've been pooping, you feel like you're not giving it your all because you're distracted? I think that my bowel movements are not as good as they could be. What does that mean? How do you find a good bowel movements? I feel like my brain. I'm on the toilet too long.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And it used to be when I was a kid, used to read Calvin and Hobbs comic strips and I was on the bathroom. And that's what would take too long. And I think this is just like, I'm reading tweets and I don't forget I'm even on the bathroom. I think it's just, you're getting older. It gets harder and gets more. By the way, I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I think you're right. Isn't that terrible? This fucking phone is making me wake up in the middle of the night and go to the bathroom. What is going on? It's giving me knee pain. Sonic, the character. It's an alien?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Sonic's an alien. Is it an alien that happens to look like a hedgehog? Well, let me tell you this. In the video game, it's an alien. Okay. And I believe the planet is from is maybe Mobius? God, that would be so crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:00 if I remember that as a kid. I could be wrong. Can we look that up later? You don't have anybody. It's just you and I. Elise, can you look up if Sonic the Hedgehog is from Mobius or Morbius?
Starting point is 00:17:08 It's not going to be Morbius, but that's Elise, everybody. She's going to talk at the end of the whole thing. He's talking to his phone. It's a Siri. He's renamed Elise. Yes, but I think that's the original thing as well. And also, by the way,
Starting point is 00:17:22 if you play the original game, at the end, the ring, you could jump through the ring and it can take you places, so that's kind of like the portal part of the video game. There's also a couple Easter eggs in there if you watch the trailer he's literally physically moving around he's so excited i like i like
Starting point is 00:17:33 the movie and i was like so like in the video game if you're on if you're close to the edge sonic will be like whoa and they put that in one of the scenes because jeffar is a beautiful genius and i think tyson helped out with that also i think whatever and there's all these little things that if you play the video games you'll find in the movie i'd begrudgingly admit my nephew is very very excited about sonic the headshot like you'd to be happy for me josh i think we know is yell at each other You're still a little pissed about Comic-Con. Can I tell you something? Oh, my God, Comic-Con.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Can I tell everybody what happened, or is that rude? No, we can tell you. I buy it up. Comic-com. So I've done, I'm friends with Josh in real life, right? And also respect you as an actual journalist. Right back at you. Not even talking about butts.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Like, I like your journalistic things. We're at Comic-Con. We get in there, it's me. What is it, Ducktails? It was Ducktails. So it's me, probably Kate McCoochee, maybe a Bobby or a Danny. Yeah. We sit there and we start the interview,
Starting point is 00:18:23 and then I can see Josh starts looking at the door and starts rushing us. And let me tell you why. And I go, and I think I called it out on camera. I said, oh, someone more importance coming in. It was because the goddamn Walking Dead cast was coming in. And so he had to get us out as quick as he could. And I'm his friend in real life.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, I'm sure we ate a burger that week sometime. And then I didn't let it down. And then in the interview I said, you're kicking us up walking dead, but you edited that part out. So nobody can see it's in there. Is it, did not make the cut? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I'm not sure. I felt really horribly. And I feel like it cast a pall over our relationship in the days and weeks later. I felt tremendous guilt. No, it didn't hurt us personally. But I was like, oh, I could see what's happening. Because also I've been in that situation before. It's like, it was out of my control. I shouldn't have been so obvious about it. I shouldn't have been so obvious about it. I shouldn't have been so obvious about it. And, and I- Yeah, you literally stopped the interview. You go, someone more important is coming to finish up. And I was like, we're live right now. Well, you also know
Starting point is 00:19:15 our dynamic, especially in those contexts, I tend to take a very passive, aggressive, aggressive, aggressive attitude towards you. That's a bit. That's a bit we do. That's a bit, which maybe I should scale back in the future because it might be teetering on the edge of angry aggression. People think that you hate me now, for real. So I'm glad we cleared clear the air. We're good. Yes. I saw Zambi land double tap.
Starting point is 00:19:35 You were happy when I died. Saw it on the plane. Well, you had to get a zombie makeup. Yeah. So you had probably a full day of work. Two days? It took an hour to turn me into a zombie. I had one day rehearsal for the, quote, stunts, and then the shoot day.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And he knocks you unconscious, doesn't he? It was amazing. Oh, God. I was watching him being like this beautiful man. But at the beginning, they just show a flash of you. So you did a quick little thing and I was like, oh, that's all he gets to do?
Starting point is 00:19:58 And then you came and got hit by one of the legends of legends. Mobius? Elise? Holy shit, she didn't even look it up. She's just like, they've moved on. They've moved on. Okay, here we go. Sonic the Hedgehog.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Mobius is the name of a fictional planet that appears in several spin-off media for Sonic the Hedgehog franchise. It's considered one of the common elements for early Sonic Canon, which of course we know about. Thank you very much, Elise. Do you want to say your social security number?
Starting point is 00:20:22 042.33. Although you're from Miami, aren't you? What does that have to do? Is that how Social Security works? Oh, she doesn't want it. So it wouldn't be 052. 052 is New York, I think. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You sound like Rain Man right now. Have you... Someone else called me that. Second time today, someone says in Rain Man. I love math. Have you met Bill Burry? Speaking of Zombie Man? Bill Burr? No, not the comedian.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Bill Murray. Bill Murray. No. He did a day on Parks, I think, didn't he? That sounds right. No, no, I haven't. I would be very scared. I'd be very scared.
Starting point is 00:20:52 There's a couple of people that. I'd be very scared about. What's your, do you have a general icebreaker with people that, like, what's your way into? Yeah, I'd go, have you ever listened to Happy Sadd Confuers? That always works. And they go, no, and I go, okay, good. And then I was like, we're going to be great friends. That's usually how it works, for me at least.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Right. An icebreaker for what? If I mean, like, I just try not to talk about anything that sycophants would talk about with them, I guess. Right, like Ace Ventura, the second time you met Jim Carrey. Yeah, but, yeah, you're right. I guess not. What was your favorite movie of this past year?
Starting point is 00:21:23 I liked a lot of movies. I loved Jojo Rabbit. I think Tycho Watiti is a actual genius. And I think that he carries himself like such a fun, cool dude that you can't believe that he's so approachable and could be such a genius.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And then also what we do in the shadows is incredible, like the film, so the act that he can do all that. He got nominated. This is also something I was going to look at for today is that he got nominated for Oscar Short, and today he got nominated for Best Picture.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I was wondering if there was ever anybody else that's ever done that. I'll top of my head. I cannot confirm her to die. Right? So I'm very, interested to see because I remember he got nominated for a short a long time ago and then Jojo Rabbit but I loved you obviously I love Rockwell but it's like I loved him I love Parasite I really like marriage story I love marriage story I was I was I was like the performance is amazing that
Starting point is 00:22:07 Joaquin Phoenix was amazing um what else did I miss 1917 I thought was incredible technically stunning have you ever been in a war film in an award film in a war film sorry I'm not I did something called Medal of Honor where I played a... Yeah, so I played someone who was a recipient of the Medal of Honor named Vito Pertoldo. And so I got to beat all the old school garb
Starting point is 00:22:30 and learn how to shoot a gun and all that stuff. That was very crazy and cool, but putting on all that crap every day and then getting bloodied up and stuff is not, it's like a lot. Yeah. But that was incredible.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And then I think I played one more person that was... And Ducktails, he's a vet, right? Ducktails a vet, right? Ducktail's a vet. Yeah, he's a veteran of Vietnam. PTSD. Yeah. That's why, yeah, how does he do it?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Do you get something out of just playing, like, what's the word? Anaformorflies? What's the word? Anaformortica. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, me ducks and stuff and stuff that speak. I love the, I like that I can, in animation I can be anything and be, I love that I can be a duck that flies on a plane, jumps off a plane, lands on a, I love that. Because as a kid, I mean, you had to watch animation too. Sure.
Starting point is 00:23:15 We had a pretty similar background in terms of what we like. So it's like, I love that stuff. So the fact that I can do that now It makes me so happy What kind of animal Do you play in standing up falling down? Standing up falling down I play an ostrich
Starting point is 00:23:27 I play like a really cool funny ostrich who doesn't quite found his voice yet At the beginning he's just telling like funny one-liner ostrich joke And in the end he talks about the real stuff That really make an ostrich like he talks about Why puts his head in the sand
Starting point is 00:23:40 And stuff like that yeah It's an actual good movie I should say on the record Yeah I told you I was at the Tribeca premiere We saw each other It means nothing It means nothing to you.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It means nothing. No, it does mean something. I liked it a lot. I'm happy. It's a great movie. Yeah, it's very charming. Billy's great. Billy Crystal, of course.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And him and I have so much fun together. It's funny because it's so hard to get people to find those movies that are like five theaters or six theaters and then VOD. Yeah. Because for like, you know, maybe we didn't get a spirit of order. But Billy, man, he's so good in it. And I really like the movie. So it's funny because an interview that we did today, they talked about, like, what do you think about? what do you think about the new version of what streaming is there's so much i think there's so
Starting point is 00:24:21 much now that it's so easy to get lost and i'm afraid that movies like that which i really like are going to get lost right um which is the cool thing about sonic is that it can't you know it's coming out which is amazing and i get i'm so excited to be a movie like that but i wonder i love to hear what your point of view is what what you do for something like that which i think is good and has good performances in it but it's just like how do you how do how do you get people to watch something like that. I don't have the answer to the secret sauce. I don't think I think we all are like figuring it out. I think it's the Wild West random. It is. It is the Wild West. And I do think that it's more word of mouth than ever. So it's the fact that what does word of mouth mean? Does that mean
Starting point is 00:24:59 something has to be retweeted? Does that mean it has to be podcast? Does that mean it has to be in Wall Street Journal? Like I don't think traditional media. You probably don't need to be here in all honesty. Well this wouldn't even be considered traditional media. No, that's true. This would be new, this would be new whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It's basically radio. Yeah, this I guess is radio. What did you and Billy Bond about in the first place? Because you two seem to actually... Tommy double tap.
Starting point is 00:25:23 We bonded about basketball, about comedy. He had a great line. We did a Q&A once, and he's like, we're singing the same song. Comedically, we're singing the same song in different octaves. And he's like, and we get to harmonize and it's just so fun to do. And I was like, yeah, it's such a beautiful way doing it. He comes from like an old school comedy background, but that's the background that I grew up on. And then I have this improv-y-type thing, and it works so well together.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You think about how we worked with Robin all the time and how well those two guys worked with improv. So it's like it was so quickly such an easy thing for us to do. And so we became friends and we love basketball. We're both Jewish people from New York. You frequented some basketball games with him. I've been lucky that he invited me. He has courtside tickets, which as a kid is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:04 me and my father were nowhere there or anything like that. So it's like to sit there now is so surreal. It's so crazy. You could hear the athletes like complaining about stuff, cursing each other off. fucking with each other. Yeah, making jokes with each other, messing with the refs.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And I was like, oh, man, this is like a whole different thing. It's crazy. What's the etiquette? Do you try to pay for the snacks as a make-good? If you get those seats, everything is included. It's one of those things. So my etiquette is when, let's say he's looking in the direction where I'm sitting, let's say the ball's there,
Starting point is 00:26:31 I make sure to lean back, so I'm never in his way. Because at the beginning, I'm so excited that I'm leaning forward. Right. And then when I look to the left and someone's leaning forward, I was like, oh, you can block the left. So the etiquette that I learned is keep my feet in so I don't trip anybody and make sure to lean back. Where do you come down?
Starting point is 00:26:49 City Slickers or City Slickers, too, The Legend of Curley's Gold. Well, City Slickers won also, I think, Daniel Sterner and Billy Crystal. The three, and Bruno was the other one, right? That movie's unbelievable. If you look at Daniel Stern's career also,
Starting point is 00:26:59 he's put in some amazing performances. Yeah? Because he had Home Alone, too. Then he had Rookie of the Year. Right. He's amazing. Why do you go straight to Home Alone 2? Home Alone as well.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, I got it. Which is the name of Home Alone 4. Home Alone 4, Home Alone as well. Home Alone as well. yeah yeah I'm very impressed because you also don't look at notes or anything like that well with someone like you I feel like you put the onus more than ever you're so on your feet I feel like I need to rise to the challenge but you're good at that do you do that with all the interviews or you sometimes have like I think the better the interview the last I'm looking at
Starting point is 00:27:31 the notes I think it's more indicative of the guest than me I think that's probably right it's like you're actually engaged or what they're talking about yeah that you're in it oh god he's looking at his notes oh he does have notes he does have notes he's looking at him every time what is your favorite three movies My five, and I never ordered them, was marriage story. I really loved marriage story. Uncut gems. Oh, I thought Amtellingler was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Irishman and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. So pretty standard. Yeah. Did you watch for one sitting? Yes. And I think that was the key. I saw it in a theater, one sitting. So it was a cinema, whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:04 But then marriage story, you didn't. Marriage story, I did see it in a theater as well. Oh, I didn't even know that was available. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Marriage story, yeah, it was fantastic. But yeah, I think Irishman benefits a lot from the... You saw it at home? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like Star Wars should have gotten in there? I love Star Wars. Listen to me. I got a special thanks in the end. I'm very excited about the others.
Starting point is 00:28:26 We had a long, involved chat or two about Star Wars. You and I talk about sci-fi movies quite a bit. We do. We do the decompression after these big, kind of genre things. We talk about Star Wars in particular. Are we allowed to talk about your contribution this time around or no? It would be an exclusive. You want to do an exclusive?
Starting point is 00:28:42 If you look at the end of, oh, by the way, IMDB, throw up my special thanks up there. I can't do it by myself, but dear God, how excited am I that I have a special thanks? It's not an IMDB yet? I don't think so. You've been checking it every day. Elise is on it. Mobius, I got Mobius right. JJ was nice enough to, I got to punch up some, I got to put in some jokes of ADR,
Starting point is 00:29:07 pitch some ADR jokes for a character for Star Wars. I don't know how much I could say about it. We can be abstract. But like four or five jokes of mine are said by a character that I've watched my whole life, which is insane. Yeah. I will say without revealing it. And you liked what the jokes were. And I will say, you asked me like, or maybe I volunteered what my favorite line in the film was.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And then you said, okay. It was mine. I wrote it. I mean, listen. I mean, listen, I love the movie. I'm also a huge JJ fan, but I love the movie. And also when you go on, oh, I took a picture like on the Millennium Falcon when I was there and you're not allowed to get them until afterwards and I haven't gotten it yet. And in episode seven, the photographer took a picture of me and BB8 when I was on set.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And I don't have it. And so I was like, can you find it? But this is, I'm going to give you another exclusive. Oh, my God. I can't believe I'm doing this. I got a tour. I hope JJ doesn't get upset. He won't.
Starting point is 00:29:55 He wasn't aware of my podcast the last time I spoke to him. Really? You haven't interviewed him? I've interviewed many times, but never for the podcast. Oh, you got to do this. Of course. And when I saw him recently, it was him and Daisy. And Daisy is literally the voice of Happy Sack Infuge.
Starting point is 00:30:07 She does like the intro and the outro. She is. I think she is. Fantastic. I think she is. I remember when I saw like Dailies because I was doing the voice
Starting point is 00:30:16 for BBA at the beginning or like trying to figure it out I saw Dailies before anybody else of the movie and I went up to him I was like she's a movie star Yes JJ I mean has many talents casting if you just look at
Starting point is 00:30:26 Star Wars what he did in episode 7 and Star Trek It's unbelievable and think about the female voices Forget about casting you in a fucking TV show But also think about alias Think about the female voices that he pops in his stuff and just I mean he is brilliant at that
Starting point is 00:30:38 But I remember watching Daisy because I only got to see a couple scenes and the first scene I got to do, we wrote dialogue for BB8 was when BBA8 Daisy sees like BB8 and he gets dropped off of, it gets dropped off of this walking beast
Starting point is 00:30:55 type thing and Daisy's like talking to BB8 and so that was the first scene I saw the whole film and I was like oh my God she's and I'm seeing dailies. So I'm seeing like not polished anything and I was like how is she so good off the bat? And with virtually no on screen
Starting point is 00:31:11 on-screen experience at the time. And also, she's acting with nothing, a droid. Right. It was so, I mean, not to say nothing, the people who pop up to your BBA are geniuses. But it's like, I was so, I was immediately so blown away by how good she was. But okay, so I'm on the new Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:31:26 and when I was there the first time, I didn't take anything because whatever. And we're getting, someone's giving me a tour of the Millennium Falcon because they had wrapped out the Millennium Falcon, or there's one more shot of it. And we're going down the hallway of the Millennium Falcon. I almost feel bad telling the story,
Starting point is 00:31:39 but I feel like nerds will appreciate it. people like me appreciate it and to make the Millennium Falcon look old and rugged because it's been around for so many movies you know there's like pieces of like insulation hanging down so we're walking the person's giving me a tour and I'm like I'm going to take a little bit of insulation from the Millennium Falcon
Starting point is 00:31:55 and so I go and there's just a little piece hanging down I mean like you would never see it and I go and I pull it but like a goddamn cartoon it goes and keeps ripping it like kept ripping I go oh no no no no and I quickly ripped it and I put it in my pocket and I kept walking. And in my place where I live in Los Angeles, it's in a glass jar. It's in a glass jar. And I labeled it with like old school typewriter type. And it says Millennium Falcon and millennia. And I also stole
Starting point is 00:32:22 two little nuts from the set of a Luke Skywalker's hut, like his little cave. You're probably responsible for, it's probably because of you that that door fell on Harrison Ford because you took some like key bolt out. I took out. Yeah, I took out the key. But I only, I usually, like from everything I've ever done, I take one prop usually. But I'm not really a part of the Star Wars franchise. I just, like, was happy to help JJ anything he wants. So I was like, I'm going to take something. And I was looking around. I was like, I can't take a button or something from the fountain.
Starting point is 00:32:48 That's insane. I was like, this is garbage. This is literal garbage. Nobody's going to miss this little garbage. And I remember going, burr. And I was like, and I quickly put in my pocket. But it's literal garbage to anybody else. But to me, it's like in a beautiful golden case.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I would treasure it too. Elise. Only for episode seven, BV8 voice consultant. Wow. Wow. Wow. And if we revealed what he contributed to episode nine, you would know that he deserves a credit.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Listen, guys. He wrote the line, I am all the Sith. Yeah, I wrote I Am All the Sith. I also wrote some lines that didn't get in. I wrote a line where R2D2 speaks in my voice being like, I can talk the whole time, baby. They didn't put that in. Fuck off, 3PO.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That was yours. That was me. That was a big one for me. I also had a line where, for some reason, I had the Kool-Aid guy come in and say, oh, yeah. And then C-3PO goes, oh, no. Oh, and then leaves. Right. Sonic out next February 14.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah, I'm trying to bring all of the franchises together. So your Star Wars eligibility is still intact because you've just done these kind of little bits and bombs. I've been a Stormtrooper in episode seven. I helped with the voice of BB8 and there's cuts somewhere in the world where my actual dialogue is in there because the editor is edited with my actual dialogue to find out when to come back and forth. And then episode nine I wrote, I think four or five jokes of mine got in, which, I mean, made my year. I got to go to the premiere and watch them and be like, and then that he put my name. name of the special thanks i just did that because i'll do anything i think he's a genius i'll do
Starting point is 00:34:13 whatever he wants and um was so happy to do it and then he gave me a special thanks which in my head like oh my god anytime anybody watched that movie if they make it through 35 minutes of credits you see my name so that was oh and also for fortnight we invented a stormtrooper yeah called fn 143 and then he goes he called me out and he goes uh the the numbers there's supposed to be four numbers after fn and i said the zero silent and my was just a sycophant J.J. Abrams fan. Fortnite, man. Donald Mustard is kind of a genius. I think it's the way we did, he did press within the video game
Starting point is 00:34:48 blew my mind. It was like, ready player one come to life. It's kind of scary. I was so inspired by what they were doing. I was like, we got to figure stuff out. Donald's like, yeah, you know, I was like, there's like unlimited possibilities. I was really excited by what they're doing there. I'm a little intimidated by how the leaps and bounds that video games have taken, because I I didn't, I made no effort to keep up.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Like, I'm 20 years behind. What did you play? What was your last thing that you played and loved? Legit. It was like Genesis, like 25 years ago. Yeah, but what game?
Starting point is 00:35:16 There's great games in Genesis. It was like the basics. It was like the first wave. It was like Sonic and Tommy was sort of baseball. Yeah, exactly. I love that. You played a sports game. Why?
Starting point is 00:35:26 It's just ironic. Yeah. I was a big baseball fan. Okay. Okay. Name one baseball player? Don Mattingly. Did you say Tom Hanks?
Starting point is 00:35:34 He did play a baseball player. No, Don Mattingly. Don Mattingly? What number was he? 23. That's correct. Have you met Tom Hanks? I have met Tom Hanks.
Starting point is 00:35:43 How has had that go? I can't believe I'm going to give you another exclusive. I wish I could save them for better things. Because this is not the podcast I want to give real information on. I'm sure. Like I didn't matter and I should have dropped. Oh, yeah, yeah. I have met him.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And I have a, he's, I am, I think my favorite actor of all time, which I could never say to him. But he also has been, he was so kind and has been very kind to me. He's amazing. I love him so much. Oh my God. He complimented you. He said nice things to you, didn't he? I have a typewriter of his at my house.
Starting point is 00:36:15 What? Yeah. You're living. I'm living. And I use it all the time. And do you know what I do? Before that Melissa McCarthy movie came out, I write letters on old school paper to my friends from old celebrities or people.
Starting point is 00:36:26 So like my friend Amir was, was like did a joke about Kobe Bryant and then he got a letter in the mail from Kobe Bryant the next day saying like, hey man, it's really hurtful to me when you make fun of me on Twitter. I would just pretend on different people sending people. things or I sent like anyone bought it has anyone no no I make it so they know like the return address is like the staple center or like I sent like someone a letter from them as a kid being like how am I doing what's going on I love sending letters I love I because it's like because I treat it as an improv exercise I don't think about anything right I sit down I write a full letter our friend
Starting point is 00:37:00 Sammy has gotten a letter from Hugh Jackman before yeah and I it's one of my favorite things I I wanted a typewriter for my birthday and by some beautiful surprise the place that I got it from was one of his collection and I never met him before and he was so nice to give it to me but I've written so many letters
Starting point is 00:37:20 I love the idea that I'm using something that was made in the 60s the same exact way it was used back then I'm creating the same exact way someone did the only thing is different is the ribbon than I changed and then I create something and it's physically there
Starting point is 00:37:33 and I give it to them and it doesn't exist unless they pick it up I really love writing letters Jumping around a bit You just came from Philly Like Cypress Hill? Yep Okay
Starting point is 00:37:43 Sure Middle Edition Schwartz Yes This is the last time That you've been on the podcast I mean you guys You've gone Super big time
Starting point is 00:37:51 You're playing Carnegie Hall How's the last time I did this podcast? The podcast was like four years ago Why do you think you don't have me on Because I haven't had anything worthwhile I mean it's weird that you would You offered that up I didn't say it
Starting point is 00:38:01 Well it just seems like I've had a lot of fun stuff The past four years Like a lot of fun stuff I don't, you know, cartoons and stuff. Like, I mean. Oh, man. I mean, I did House of Lies for a bunch of years.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I had this pilot with JJ. It's a really Don Sheetle show. I guess that didn't get it. It's a Don Chiloh. I did, like, a bunch of movies, like five movies in that time. We did the bit. We did the sketch. You and Sam.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Oh, yeah, me and Rocky. Hey, I'm writing a new movie for Sam Rockwell and I. The best. How many exclusives do you want? We just sold it. Did you? Yep. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:38:28 I'm writing it right now. Amazing. It's great. A two-hander, you and Sammy. In Sammy Rocks as the leads. The best. It's going to be really fun if it gets made. For the Blue Aguana fans out there that want more.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Is it a spiritual sequel or a natural sequel? It's spiritual. It's spiritual. It's spiritual, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual, spiritual. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Middle East and Schwartz. You played Carnegie Hall, amazing. We played, I think, 2,600 people, and then we played, I think, 2,800 people, and then we sold out Chicago Theater, and then we just played Philly, which is 3,000. But the biggest thing is we got a series of specials that we filmed in New York at NYU,
Starting point is 00:39:01 and it's going to be coming out the next couple months and so I think what's going to happen is we're going to release three specials at the same time. I believe... We haven't talked about it with the place that we set it up with yet.
Starting point is 00:39:12 They'll make a big announcement. MySpace. Yeah, MySpace. But it'll be the first of its kind where it's almost a comedy special series. Right. Because in improv, I mean, like when you do stand-up, like I love John Mullaney.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I think he's incredible. He'll work on it for six months or, you know, Chappelle probably takes even less time somehow. Right. And then they'll release it. But for us, every show is totally different.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Right. So they gave us two nights. We did four shows. We take our three favorites out of the four. Whatever happens happens. They're not perfect shows, but that's what's fun about improv. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And you're going to see us making it up on the spot. And so there have been specials in the past, but nothing like this where all of them were released on the same day and not multiple. Like each episode is a different outfit, is a different background. So there's no cutting between it. It's one long story each time.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Whatever happens, happens. So I really am interested to see if people connect with it And if people feel like we feel like they're making up on the spot They could feel that I really hope it connects It's a big deal for us and for improv Yeah, because you've talked so much about like how the magic of what you guys doing with any great improv Artists does is it's a connection in the room Yeah, and it's a one-time only event and like that's right
Starting point is 00:40:19 And the people have have I think bang their head against the wall and like how do you actually translate this to any other medium? It might not be possible maybe it is or maybe it isn't This is the test And this is good sounds like this is the So many different cameras on it. We try to capture it and we're trying to edit it where you're always looking at us like it's the point of view from the audience. So you see that we're not editing a lot outside.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You know what I mean? Right. So it's like you're in it and you feel us making it up on the spot. And our shows, you feel very much like that. That you're like, oh, this is all. Yeah. So I'm very interested to see if people care. Another thing, like, you know, we're not Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:40:51 We're not all these bigger people. But, and also it's, you know what you're getting when you get stand up. We're trying to introduce something that isn't as popular. Right. unless you've seen T.J. and Dave, or unless you've seen an Ask Cat special or my special I did for Showtime a while ago, it's like, this is trying to make long form, trying to really get people to connect with it and know what it is. So at the beginning, trying to explain what it is. And then we interview someone and then we do the show. So it's like stick with it for
Starting point is 00:41:14 two seconds. Right. And then we're just going to make up stuff. So we're hoping that people stick around. Well, I mean, you know, to earnestly speak for a second. As you know, I've seen you've seen a bunch of shows. I've seen you do your thing and it's remarkable. You're very cool. So if you've captured a tenth of it, it's going to kill. I think we captured a Exactly a 10th of it. That's what you were shooting for. I think so. I think so.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Space Force. Yeah. I need to talk about this a little bit. I just want to know how it's been going. So this show sounds amazing. Greg Daniels, of course. I think it's going to be very funny. Steve Corel.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yes. Malcovich. The John Malchovich. The John Malchavich. There's only one. Krell, Malchavitch. Me, Tony Newsom, Diana Silvers, and then recurring great people are Jimmy O. Yang.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Don Lake. If you've ever seen a waiting for Guffman or Christopher guest movie, he's a genius. minute. We have a bunch of other great recurring people and I'm probably forgetting. And then we have insane guest stars. Some people that haven't even been announced yet. And I just wrapped photography three days ago. So you're the set photographer. You've been taking photos. I take photos of everything. That's great. And I think my photos are really artistic. I think so. I think they're
Starting point is 00:42:18 beautiful, but it's funny. You play F. Tony Scarapiducci. Yeah. My name is fuck Tony instead of like making fun of fuck Jerry. And then my last name is Scarapiducci instead of the mooch. And what kind of animal are you in this? Oh, good. I'm a lemur. I play a lemur in this one. Anamorphic, enamorphic lens is what I'm thinking of. I don't even know what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I've screwed us both up. Is Malkovich, what's the vibe of the Malkovich? Do you ever feel comfortable around him? Let me tell you something. He scares me a little. He's, have you interviewed him? Yes. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And somehow has done everything. We were talking about clothes one day. Oh, he's like a designer. He has his, I've bought clothes of his online. He designs he has different He has different lines And then even after that we're talking about wine He has his own vineyard
Starting point is 00:43:05 He makes his own wine He is such an interesting He's very funny He was so kind He came to one of my improv shows With his whole family He's just a great guy And happens to be one
Starting point is 00:43:17 He's the actor like I'll be talking to some of my friends That are pretty established And really good at what they do Right And I'll be like And I'll say like Oh yeah John Malkovich is in that
Starting point is 00:43:25 Or I'll be on the phone with him And Malcovich passes by and they will be like, holy shit, that was John Malcovic. Like, even the biggest people. Yeah, there's something about him. They just recognize how incredible of a talent he is. He's like Walkin. He's like one of those guys. That's exact.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Walkin's a perfect example of like, oh, he's just a god a god, he's just a god, he's just a god, let's see some random things I had here. Do you have any games to play? No, no. Sometimes you have a great game. No, I say that for on camera. Oh, yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:43:48 This is just, I'm throwing this away. Would you gain... God, so many exclusives just to throw away. Are you sponsored by Milky Way or Snickers? I just like them both. would you gain 50 pounds for a roll? A muscle? It can be fat, muscle, whatever you want to comeale?
Starting point is 00:44:03 Exactly. You asked me to Kumail? Or you asked you to a machinist? You want me to Kumail or machinist? Machinist, you can't go much. You're a thin man. You can't go 50 down. I don't feel like I'm as thin as I should be.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Now that I've seen pictures of Kumail, I know I've got to work on myself. 50 pounds more? It would have to be a great role. I would be afraid that I wouldn't be able to lose it. I get very lazy with working out. You've never been overweight. Were you at Fat Kid? No, but I've been skinnier than I am now.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Would you gain 100 pounds? No. Okay. That's unhealthy, I think. Well, all this stuff is unhealthy. What Christian Bell has been doing to himself for art has not been a good thing. That's probably true. Have you met Vin Diesel?
Starting point is 00:44:40 No. What's he like? Is he Groot? Yeah. I mean, technically speaking, he is Groot. Is he Groot? Yeah. I mean, spoiler, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So he is Groot. Yeah. Oh, my God. He's kind of like Malkovich. Diesel is? Both bald. Yeah, but I mean, come on, Malcovich He's on the podcast, Vin.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Vin? Yeah, I... Who's the most nervous here? You've been most nervous to... Podcast-wise? Yeah. I was excited slash nervous for Warren Beatty. That was a big...
Starting point is 00:45:09 Oh, that's crazy. You talk about Dick Tracy? Yeah. I love Dick Tracy. I know you do. You do? These are great questions. Let's see what else you got.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Let's see. Have you ever been cut out of a film? Um... I don't... don't know. Wow. That's good. Okay, good. How would you describe your level of celebrity if you were explaining it to somebody? Minimal to low. That's not true. That's not true. I get stopped a couple times on the street, but nobody's threatening. That's hurt. So in a way, kind of ideal. I am very pleased. Because I've been around very famous people and like they can't move. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:46 Right. There was a great moment once when I did an improv show and, uh, uh, uh, JJ, JJ came to the show with, uh, uh, I think his, by the way, JJ's family is insanely talented. His daughter, Gracie, is like an incredible musician. And his son, Henry, is an incredible writer and an illustrator as well. But I cannot believe how incredibly talented that family is. But they came to show as Henry Gracie and JJ. And seven had just come out. Seven had just come out.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So every now and then I was, whatever, signing BB8 stuff. So we leave out the back and people are waiting with Star Wars stuff, posters and stuff like that and JJ's walking and he's looking at them and they go right by him because they have no idea that he would be at the fucking thing. Right right by him to me being like
Starting point is 00:46:33 Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben. And he looks to the left because he probably never thought that what's going on? Right. And so he looked and it was such a funny moment. They had like everything that they would die to have JJ sign. They just couldn't even thought him that he would be there. Why would he be there? Yeah, so it's like just another Jewish looking
Starting point is 00:46:49 guy walking out of the audience walks by and goes, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben. And I'm cracking up signing these things while he's there. But the more of the bigger stuff I've done with Sonic and stuff like that, I can feel it a little bit more now with signing
Starting point is 00:47:05 and being stopped and way more Twitter stuff and Instagram stuff and people taking passionate stances on the stuff I'm doing now. Like Sonic fans are passionate fans. I've been very fortunate that they've embraced me. But it's like So you kind of feel that the more stuff I've been doing now and the more visible I am, it's a little bit different. But it hasn't been like the people that are really famous and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:47:29 It's nothing like that, which is I don't think I'd be great at that because I want to make everybody happy and I think I would disappoint people and... And exhaust yourself. I think I'd be, for real. I think I'd exhaust myself. February is going to be a big month for you. Some would say it's a make or break month in your career. A lot of people are saying that you're not going to bring it for this. 2020, they said if I don't do it this year, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Everything I have is coming out this year. In February alone, standing up falling down, it's going to be fantastic. It is fantastic. I've seen it. Yeah, and it's a lead role in a movie with Billy Crystal. For me, that's crazy. It's great. Sonic is going to kill it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It looks amazing. Sonic is coming out on the 14th, and then quite possibly a couple, in the next months after that will be the Middle Eastern Schwartz specials, and then somewhere after that will be Space Force. So the beginning of this year, the first half of this year, or the first, I don't know when Space Force comes out, but, will be a lot and a lot of big things for me it is a very interesting place to be in i've never been in this i've been in situations where i have three things at the same time right but never where it's
Starting point is 00:48:28 like studio movie that my parents can go to like you know yonkers and see it you know what i mean or like uh you know because usually the any like standing up falling down my parents are gonna have to go to manhattan to the one theater that's playing it right um or get it on vod and then the middle edition schwartz stuff is it a place where everybody in the world could see it at the same time. And then the Space Force thing will be, I think it will be a cool show. So it's like all these things at the same time. It'll be a very interesting time all happening while I'm writing the Sam Rockwell movie and also like now might be a get to audition for some cool things. And it's very interesting to see if anybody will care because also there's a chance that nothing happens. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I think this July at Comic Con, no matter what, I'm not going to bump you. I'm going to keep you there as long as possible. I guarantee if there's someone more famous after you'll bump me. The cast of Supergirl. I'm sorry, Ben. And you would. They crush it Comic-Con. I'm sorry. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I know it'll happen again. I think that you're going to be put in such a weird situation. I hope you don't get to be as popular and successful as I think you are and will be. Because then... I think this is it. This is it. I think this is it. One time you and I did a commercial for I pick, and I thought that was the high for Eric again.
Starting point is 00:49:38 That was only shown at an I pick. Do you remember that? I do. I don't know how why did I do that is a favorite year yeah I think so that was amazing you're a good man uh onward to bigger and better things congratulations for all your success and I really appreciate you taking the time I always think you ask you questions I think you actually care uh I think you can be cynical that's the job is to pretend like you care how long was this it it felt like six hours 45 what that's it's it's it about 45 we kind of nailed it
Starting point is 00:50:07 anything you want to talk about I'm good when you did zombie land did you want to do Did you want to do more acting? Well, you know, I do the, obviously I do the sketches. You do a sketch show. So that, that scratches that itch for me. I don't have, my ambitions aren't that much greater. Would you want to turn it into a full, instead of doing one-offs, would you want to do, like, a key and peel type, give me 22 minutes and let me do a sketch show?
Starting point is 00:50:27 I don't think I'd want to do a full-on sketch show. I don't think, in all honesty, I'm like, of that, obviously I'm not at that level. Yeah, but you could be the straight man and you can have all the people doing things. Yes, and that's been the key. I'd want to do, like, a mix of things, interview and sketches here and there. Like any late-night talk show has. So would that be a variety show or would that be a talk show? Would you want to mold yourself towards Conan or would you want to mold yourself towards Serenet Live?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Conan. Conan. Who's your hero? Talk show was. Conan was, yeah. Conan, not a Letterman guy. What's up? Not a Letterman guy. Letterman, too. Those are the two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:57 But enough about me. Thanks for coming by, Ben. I'm very happy to be here. I was very excited. Right, Elise? Right. There you go. I felt half-hearted. God, Elise, I can't believe how much you hate me. Maybe it's me.
Starting point is 00:51:08 We met today, and I feel like we were kicking it off. It was like, we're coming friends. And now? You hate being on camera and video. Yeah, she hates it. There's no camera here just so you know. Is there anything you want to plug, Elise, of your own? No.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Okay, she's good for now. That's a good way to cap it. Is Sammy going to do the intro of this or she doesn't do those anymore? If she's around. If she's around, I think Sammy Heller is fantastic and an incredible producer. She's at the beginning of this. All right. Well, thank you, Josh.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I appreciate it. Are we going to take pictures now? Yeah. Okay, great. addition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't pressured to do this by Josh.
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