Happy Sad Confused - Caitriona Balfe, Vol. II

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

It's been an eventful last year for Caitriona Balfe. Some new "Outlander", a new addition to the family(!), and her most acclaimed film yet, the universally acclaimed, "Belfast"! So there's plenty for Josh and Caitriona to catch up on in the long overdue return for Caitriona to the podcast. Enjoy! Happy Sad Confused is also proud to announce our 3rd annual holiday benefit! On December 16th, Tom Hiddleston will join Josh for a LIVE chat at 4pm ET. This event will NOT appear as a podcast. The only way to watch and enjoy is to purchase a ticket. All proceeds go to charity! Purchase your tickets here! Don't forget to check out the Happy Sad Confused patreon here! We've got exclusive episodes of GAME NIGHT, video versions of the podcast, and more! For all of your media headlines remember to subscribe to The Wakeup newsletter here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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or go to explorevolvo.com. While other money managers are holding, Dynamic is hunting. Seeing past the horizon, investing beyond the benchmark, because your money can't grow if it doesn't move. Learn more at dynamic.ca.cath slash active. Dynamic, actively different. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Today on Happy Say It Confused, Katrina Balf returns to her roots with the new film, Belfast. Hey guys, Josh Harrow, it's here with another edition of Happy Sad Confused. And yes, Katrina is back, guys.

I know you've been clamoring for it for a while. You Outlander fans, you, a fan doesn't even begin to describe you guys. You devotees, your obsessives. I love you all. Well, finally she's back. and a lot to talk about. We're so happy for Katrina Balfa around here because her new movie is fantastic.

You've heard the buzz. Maybe you've seen it by now. If not, you've read about it. You know Belfast is one of the most beloved films of the year, very much in the awards conversation directed by Kenneth Brana. It is a telling, a somewhat loose telling of his own childhood in Belfast, seen through his eyes, the child's eyes, Jamie Dornan and Katrina,

play The Parents. Kieran Hines and Judy Dench are the grandparents. They're all being talked about for awards, and rightfully so. This is a charming, nostalgic, wistful movie of a different time. It's shot in gorgeous black and white. It really celebrates our love of movies and how movies made an impact on young Ken Brana as a kid. I love that part of it. And it's just, I haven't met somebody that hasn't really responded to this movie. So that is the reason why it won the audience award at Toronto and it continues to be talked about and I just know it's going to get a slew of nominations and perhaps one for our beloved Katrina, which would be amazing. There's not a nice person around and I always love chatting with her. This was a great excuse to catch up

about what she's been up to this last year, which is of course shooting Belfast, shooting another season of Outlander. Having a child, a lot's happened in Katrina's life. So a lot to catch up on. Plus her comfort movie. So I know you guys are going to dig this chat. This is her second time on the podcast. And it's just great to catch her in this really exciting moment. Speaking of catching her in a cool moment, this was taped. I believe it was the day after the Los Angeles premiere and just a few days after the premiere they had in Belfast itself, which as you can imagine must have been very emotional and special. So yeah, great moment to chat with Katrina, and I'm glad it happened. I know you guys have been asking for it for a while. Well, here it is. I hope you guys in the States

had a great Thanksgiving. Hope everybody is doing well as the weather turns as we gear up for the holidays and maybe some time off. A lot going on, a lot of great movies and TV to catch up on. I myself, look, I do this for my living guys, and I am so far behind on so many movies and TV shows. So I have lots of quote-unquote work to do in that respect. Thankfully, I've also been talking to some great folks for MTV and Comedy Central. Let's see. I do want to mention that I have a great, fun, special sketch with Haley Steinfeld coming very soon to Comedy Central. She's, of course, starring not only in Dickinson, but in Hawkeye, the new Disney Plus show. So this sketch is very much on the Hawkeye side of things.

So you Marvel fans will very much appreciate it. We had a blast. Only the second in-person sketch I've done in quite some time. Of course, Sam Hewin did one a few weeks back. And now, Haley, I know you guys are going to dig it. What else can I tease? I'm going to be moderating some really cool things soon. I'll announce those when I can here in New York.

It's that season of kind of tastemaker events and sag events when there are all these Q&A's. Hopefully some of these will be available to be made public as well. One thing that is public that I have announced is my event with Tom Hiddleston. So if you don't know, guys, I have been doing an annual benefit for Happy Sack Confused, or I guess a version of Happy Sack Confused, the last two years. Last year was with Katrina Belf, actually. This year is with Tom Hittleston.

So on December 16th at 4 p.m. Eastern, Tom and I are going to catch up for an hour over Zoom, and you guys are cordially invited. The link is in the show notes here, or just go to the Symphony Space website. They are the ones kind of putting it together on their digital platform. It's not an in-person event, which means, sadly, you won't see us in person, but on the good side, anyone can attend. And not only that, if you can't be there live, you will be able to view this if you purchase a ticket for the next five or six days after.

I think it's through December 22nd. great holiday gift, great gift to yourself. So hopefully you guys will enjoy that. Me and Tom Hidleston, one of our favorites, an hour-long deep dive conversation about his career, about life, about Loki, about anything and everything that pops into my brain. So I hope you guys enjoy that. Again, the info is in the show notes. That's the only other thing I wanted to mention. Let's get right to the big conversation today. Check out Belfast when you can. It's a special one. and I hope you guys enjoy this new chat with Katrina Fuff. It's so good to see you, as always, even in a silly Zoom screen on my computer.

Congratulations on the film. This movie is remarkable. You've just come off of two ginormous premieres. Los Angeles, I believe, last night. And Belfast. A few days ago. Yeah. Give me the 401.

on, give me the short version. What's a Belfast premiere for Belfast like? Oh, man, it was super emotional, I think for everybody. Obviously, Ken, Jamie and Kieran and Jude are all, you know, pretty much from Belfast. So it was very emotional for them. I'm from an hour and a half down the road, which I was reminded on Thursday very much about how far away that was and how I'm not actually, you know, it was almost like I was from Mars when I was visiting Belfast. I'm like, I'm literally an hour and a half way. But my mum, that was the first premiere she's ever come to with me. So my mom was there. So it was really special, very emotional for me too. And, you know, a lot of my family story and my story is very, very different from Ken's. And this is very much

Ken's personal story in a way, but I think there's many parallels that I can draw, even though the circumstances are very different. And so there's a lot of my mom in my performance. There's a lot of my family's sort of story in there too. And so it, yeah, it felt really, it felt really special. And then LA, it's like I lived here. So many of my close friends came. And it was pretty cool. Jamie Dornan did a musical number. I saw. Without social media. Yeah.

So it was really fun last night, really good. So let's contextualize sort of where this came because as I recall, I spoke to you. I think it was like very soon after you wrapped the shooting of this film at the end of last year. And my sense was you were, this couldn't have come at a better time. I mean, obviously, you know, special projects come around and you never know when they're going to fit, if they're going to finish the schedule. Obviously, given the last couple of years, it was a crazy year in 2020.

It sounded like you were going a little stir crazy maybe, and you needed something like this. Is it fair to say this one was a godsend? Oh, 100%. Yeah, you know, when Ken talks about how on the 23rd of March, he started writing the script and, you know, he was then filming in July, August. That's somebody who was very productive with their time.

I was perhaps not as productive with my lockdown. You know, I struggled. I really did. I think, you know, I think probably, you know, the last couple of years of my life have been very regimented with work. And, you know, I haven't had a lot of downtime anyway, but any downtime you do have, you kind of have all of these things that you want to achieve and you want to fill it up with.

And for me, a lot of that is travel. and seeing friends and, you know, filling in the sort of empty vessel of my life when you sort of spend so much time on set. And so then to be forced into this sort of trapped in your apartment, I mean, look, I understand a lot of people had very tough times and my little existential crisis is my own selfish and very luxurious thing to have. But it did. Like I mentally, I struggled, you know, those first few months and and you know I should have been shooting so this project would never there was no way I would have ever been able to do this had there not been a lockdown had we not been on hiatus and enforced hiatus on outlanders so somehow the stars aligned you know I got a phone call

from my agent was like Ken Branagh has written this script said in belfast these are the people who are attached and you're you know your jaw kind of just keeps falling and you know, would you read it and would you get in a call with him? And you're like, yeah. So, yeah, it was, it was a gift. And it was the gift that just has kept on giving. I mean, we had such a blast on that film. I have made friends that I know I'm going to have for life on that film.

It was just really special. So, yeah, I could keep talking, but we have more questions. Let's talk about some of the new friends that you made because we both love and adore Mr. Kenneth Brana, who is as sweet and smart as he is talented, a filmmaker. What was your reference point for Ken Brana? Like, was it as an actor? Was it as a filmmaker? Like, what did you think of first when you thought of Kenneth Brana prior to this? Definitely more an actor.

I mean, I've definitely seen quite a few of his films that he has directed. But, I mean, I don't think you can grow up in Ireland or that you can. without knowing him as incredible, incredible actor. You know, from Peter's friends, you know, Frankenstein, all, you know, he's just part of the fabric of your life. You know, it's like one of those things, it's the same with Judy Dench. It's like, is there one thing you can name?

No, because it's all of it. And it's all sort of always been there and feels like it always will be. So, and, you know, also Kieran Heinz, who I had met before because in a true Irish fashion, he's one of my good friends, cousins. But, you know, Kieran's somebody. I've seen him on stage in New York.

I've seen him in countless different productions, and he's always amazing. And he is one of the most beautiful, gentle souls. He's a poet in his heart, you know, for sure. Like, we've just come from a couple of different, Q&As and press conferences and I could just sit and listen to Kieran all day he's just such a

lyrical yeah just gentleman when he of all the actors involved in this it's exciting to see like a light shined on him he's one of these character actors that I feel like everybody who knows like knows like this guy always delivers but like this kind of plump part

for him and this kind of a film I hope he's enjoying the moment yeah yeah I think you know know, I think we're all, we've all sort of, you know, it's a very small cast, but we have all real, really bonded in a really special way. And I think we're so proud of each other. And as an ensemble, you know, everyone's sort of been appreciated. And I think that, you know, we're just all proud of each other and proud of this project and have sort of a gratitude to Ken that he allowed us to join this beautiful little special train that's chewing along so uh that's a terrible

analogy but no no if there's if there's an actor in this cast that i have pegged as an outlander fan it's obviously dame judy dench she of course no she can't watch film or TV, which is quite genius. And it was Jamie Dornan who prized that out of her. We were watching. Maybe that's the secret to being so cool, just to like... She is, I mean, she is the coolest. Like, really is the coolest.

Kieran was talking about it today. We had one of the first days we all, Ken got Judy, Kieran, Jamie and myself in a room to sort of just chat. And she walked in with this tiger mask and, like, just the cool. coolest array of jewelry and you're just like she is the most ageless bright light i don't know how else to describe her but she just is she's she's just the coolest person i mean yeah so but yeah she doesn't watch tv and she doesn't watch movies i think she says that bambi umbo and the snow white and the seven dwarfs when she was a child terrified

her so much and broke her heart so much that she swore off films for the rest of her life. At least she didn't swear off acting in them. I guess some attention should be paid to, you have a bad luck of a lot of charisma vacuum male co-stars in your life. And Jamie Dornan just continues. I mean, if somebody, please teach him some charm or something, please. So we just, of course, we adore Jamie, who is sweet and funny and just so winning in this film. Barbin Star, I was already like on the Barb and Star train with him this past year.

Now to see this back to back, just like, okay, this is the breadth of an actor right there. I watched Barb and Star about a month and a half ago with my sister and I was just texting. I was like, seagull in the sand. Now, which character is... I think we can never unsee. Oh, yeah, yeah. Which character is closer to the Jamie, you know, the character in this film or the character in Barb and Star?

I mean, he is an amalgamation of both, really. He is, you know, I think that's what's so lovely about Jamie. He has such integrity, I think, as a human. He is a really solid... So, you know, gentle man. And then on the flip of that, he's a ridiculous person, like, you know, goofy and and we all torture him. No one more so than Jude Hill tortures Jamie, which is very funny to watch. I mean, it reminds me of another mutual friend of ours in many of the ways you're describing him. Well, and their rest day is only a day apart. Is that right? Yeah, they are. They, they, they,

They really do share a certain, like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like an aura or an essence to them that is very similar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, and they're both thankfully willing to make fun of themselves. And I appreciate that. We both appreciate that. So talk to me a little bit about, okay, so this wonderful gift of a role drops in your lap

when you needed it the most you get on set does it feel I mean these are all the cliche questions but I'm curious how it felt like I mean how it felt particularly where you were in your life at this point

did it feel unique those first couple days especially given that you'd been cooped up for all of those months was the marriage of the material the actors and the context of this whole world we were living in did it make the production

that much different you think yeah I mean You know, I think sometimes on a project, there's, you get this little bit of magic, you know, that happens. And it really felt like that. And, you know, Ken was talking earlier today. And he's, he's so clever. But, you know, we started on a Thursday, I think. And he was like, I always like to start on a Thursday because everyone feels like if it's a Monday, then it's like, oh, we're starting on Monday.

We start on Thursday. It's like, oh, we're just going to do a couple of scenes. and then we'll come, we'll have a weekend and then we'll really start the next week. Oh, that's so funny. And on our first day of actual shooting, he kind of led us all to believe that these were just little camera tests.

So there was a couple of things he had me doing solo. I think one is like peeling potatoes outside the door and sitting outside and drinking. And they ended up in the film. But when you're doing them, you're just like, oh, we're just camera testing. So he eases you in in a very, relaxed way and he makes sure that the set has a beautiful relaxed feeling and he especially on this

project because he was able to do it exactly as he wanted you know it was very much his film there was no as far as i know there was no studio involved in that at that point there was nothing so he was doing it exactly how he wanted so everyone in the crew were people he had worked with before right there was a family atmosphere sort of instantaneously um And so very early, obviously I was incredibly intimidated and scared, shitless before I got there. But very soon, you know, he just sort of put everybody at ease and you kind of feel like, oh, whatever I'm doing, he seems happy with it. So you just, he gives you that innate confidence very early on and makes you feel like you're the right person in the right place at the right time.

And, you know, we all sort of, I think, felt that. that way. And it just, there was a, there was a joy. I think we were all just so happy to be at work. Yeah. And also not only that, but be working on something that was so special, you know. I want to talk about some of like the themes that I think are going to resonate with folks in this, because I think one of the beauties of a film like this is, though it is so specific and clearly inspired by Ken's childhood, you know, I found watching it a ton of different aspects that really just resonated with me. It's very much from a child's perspective, buddy's perspective. I love kind of like, kind of the glimpses of the parents and kind of like, I'm sure we all recall

this, right? Like those kind of like out of earshot conversations that that kind of like sense of they're fighting. What are they fighting about? What are the issues? I mean, does that resonate with you when you think back to your own childhood? Do you think back to like those shifts like when you started to view your parents as actual full-blooded human beings and not just these deities? Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, I think one of the things he's been able to do so well in the film is capture that sort of loss of innocence, you know, and what that means to a child and the process of going through that.

I mean, it's so palpable when you watch the film. And I think we all have experienced. that in one way or another, you know, in our own circumstances. And definitely, you know, I think there was a lot of introspection and, you know, looking back and sort of looking back on my own childhood and things that were happening. And you can't help but do that. And, you know, I, doing sort of my research for this was, was strange because on one hand, I was doing a lot of watching interviews of women from the north of Ireland, especially in this time. I mean, there's a wealth of interviews online and sort of the weight of all of that was one part of it,

but then the other part of it was very personal and just thinking a lot about sort of my childhood and my parents and my mom and stuff like that. So it was, yeah, it was a funny one. It sort of snuck up on you as you were doing it as well, you know? So what did mom say after she saw it? I'm sure she's heard you say that it's partially, at least, it has to be partially inspired by her. Did she see that in the performance? And was she honored or horrified or excited or what?

I think, well, first of all, the first thing she said was that she didn't want the film to end, which I think is one of the sweetest things. You know, my parents wouldn't be cinefiles. And they've definitely gone to things I've done before. and I know my mom has fallen asleep a lot during things before and my dad has sort of dismissed things I've done before. So it was really lovely to hear her, A, that she stayed awake through the whole thing and that she wanted more of it. So that was good. Yeah, you know, I think she, I think my mom

has a good ability to laugh at herself too. And I'm sure she recognized some of those threats. that might have snuck out of my mouth and, you know, she's, she's always been someone whose bark was bigger than her bite. So, you know, she had, she had many, many children. She had to corral us somehow. So one other aspect I really appreciate about the relationship between your character and Jamie's is, I mean, these are two people that really love each other. It's a loving relationship, as is the Kieran and Judy relationship, where the obstacle is more of just it's life. It's just like life gets, life is complicated. Shit gets complicated and it's hard. It's just hard to make it work. And sometimes in movies like we need like the salacious

affair and the big thing over here and that or whatever. And like sometimes, more often, probably in life. You know, there's a couple of scenes that I just love so much. You know, the rent book scene with little dude is so good. But you know that that has a repercussion. for the next phone call that, you know, Ma's going to have with Pa and, you know, when we talked with Ken, you know, the way he talks about his parents, or even the way he wrote about them, Ma and Pa and his script was the empathy he had for both of them. Neither of them are perfect. You know, both of them have, they do really stupid things and, you know, they do things that make life worse for each other. But there was no judgment there, which I thought was really

beautiful. It's just two people trying to model through who really do love each other, but at the same point, as you said, like, shit is really hard. And, and, you know, what I loved also, the men are such stand-up good men in their heart in this film. But the honoring of the women as well was really beautiful in this. And, you know, it's very tough, I'm sure, for Pat. to go off and work and leave his family. And that must be heartbreaking. But, you know, being left and bearing the brunt of the child rearing and the managing of the household

and all of those things, you know, and it wasn't dismissed. It wasn't kind of like, and she's just a wife or and she's just a mother. There was a real acknowledgement of the enormity of all of that. And I think that was just so beautiful. And I love that scene where Pa, thanks her. And that, I mean, that scene, I get goosebumps because I just think that that,

and Jamie was so incredible in, in that scene as well. And it's just, it's very simple. And it's such a short scene and it, but in its simplicity, you know, the weight of that was really beautiful. It's a dead giveaway on my podcast to see how much of the time in the conversation is actually spent talking about the project in terms of how much I actually appreciate it. And we've spent more than half of the conversation talking about Belfast. I adore this movie and everybody in it. So congratulations. I do want to talk about some other stuff,

including, as you know, I hit you up about your comfort movie. We've been talking comfort movies. This is weird because in the year and a half I've been doing this, no Audrey Hepburn movies. And then last week, Zossi Bates chose Breakfast at Tiffany's,

and you have now succeeded it with another Audrey Hepburn movie. Katrina, what's your pick? my pick is funny face i mean you you gave me a list of things that have been already chosen i'm not going to lie um no but this is one i audrey hepburn movies are you know breakfast at tiffany is funny face they are ones that i will return to uh time and time again and funny face is just if i'm sick this is definitely going to be played um because it just is like a warm blanket for some reason.

Is this genre generally something that you're attracted to? Or is it the specific setting, the actors, the music? Like, what is it, if you had in a nutshell, what are the aspects? Well, I think Audrey Hepburn has, you know, she's just got such a magical quality. And this film, it's, you know, it's kind of ridiculous in many ways. But there's something about, and I'm not really interested. to musicals at all. It's not really my jam, which makes this a strange choice. But at the same point, there's something, because of the time this is set in, you know, it feels, I don't know,

it feels like it should be a musical. Like there's that kind of quality to it. You know, if I am going to watch a musical, I like those MGM technicolor kind. You know, I'm not into really the modern stuff. It gets too cringy for me, usually. Well, this is, I mean, look, just to give folks some context, this does have the right pedigree. This is directed by Stanley Donan, who, of course, also did singing in the rain. It's got the songs from the Gersh, George and Ira Gershwin, Fred Astaire. Amazing. Of course, Fred Astaire, who, by the way, telling, especially of those times, playing, I think he's 31 years senior to Audrey Hapner.

I know, he's ancient and she's like 17 or something, which is very questionable. But, you know, the whole thing, it's what I just love the. ridiculousness of this kind of like vogue shoot coming into this bookstore and absolutely taking over and not listening, you know, to this per young woman who's sort of like trying to somehow command the space that she is in charge of. And, you know, and it's got like, I guess maybe because of my prior life, you know, the fashion of Paris, all of those things. Maybe that's why it hits me in such a place too, but like, you know, when they go to Paris and they go to this jazz club and then she does that dance in the black polineck and the black, you know, cigarette pencil

trousers. And it's, it's so of that time, but it's such a, it's the real Hollywoodized version of that time. I don't know. It's just, it's just, it's just such a gorgeous film. It's a great pick. I'll have you know. I googled you and Funny Face just to see if you talked about it before. four. And I hadn't found anything, but I did find the first two of the first three photos that come up for Katrina Ball, Funny Face, are photos that we've taken together. So there's irony for you. It's meant to be. Kismet. There you go. Exactly. Exactly. So let's talk a little outlander. Since we last spoke, you, you did

shoot season six. We did. And you were, I remember, again, you were wondering what it would feel like. Like, I mean, because so much of that set is a social environment, that's half the fun maybe of working there. Were you able to enjoy in the same way you were able to enjoy the previous seasons? Or was it a much different kind of environment? It was very different this season. You know, I'll still say we enjoyed it. But, you know, the difference is when we were shooting Belfast, it was the height of summer. We were outside for 90% of the time, I would say.

so the wearing of masks and socially distancing in the kind of halcyon days of summer are very different than in the depths of winter and being in studio a lot also I was pregnant which was a whole other new level to the discomfort or the just kind of weirdness of shooting again you know we didn't our writers didn't want to shoot or didn't see how to shoot a season of Outlander making it COVID-friendly. So we sort of went ahead and shot it as we would another season, except with a lot of COVID protocols sort of around our, you know, set and story. So we had to be really, really strict because we weren't, you know,

I know some shows were sort of reducing the amount of people. And we did a little bit of that where we could. you know you can't really shoot outlander without sort of having a bit of the scope of community and all those things um so you know it was it was strange it was like you know you're driving and like normally you know when you're moving from set to set or you're going from your base camp to set you'd have a car full of like your costume or your makeup artist your driver you you know yourself and there's there's always chat there's always you know like life and vibrancy and all of those things and as a cast we would always hang out in big groups

and right you know that all kind of had it was weird you know having separate tents next to each other and you're supposed to just sit in your tent by yourself and you're just like oh those feels are super weird texting sam what's going on in your text how are you like what do you have this is weird but you know that's that's kind of how it felt in the beginning but you get used to these things you know we all adapt and it was important it was important that we got everybody back to work and we did and we managed to get through the entire season without having any COVID in our shooting on our set I mean in the periphery there was some you know in sort of like the props and the builders and that kind of stuff but like actually on set we managed to make it

through in terms of obviously the end of season five left clear and very emotional I mean it was can't get more intense than the way that season uh ended is there is there something relief hopefully in some way for Claire this season. I mean, on the emotional turmoil scale of one to ten, how's Claire doing in season six? I mean, it's not a, it's not a quick fix, which is what I really, you know, what I wanted. I mean, I think we've always seen Claire sort of rebound very quickly. And one of the things that, you know, as the writers we talked about, and, you know, Diana has sort of laid this foundation for us was that it takes time to get over an incident like that. And it has destabilized Claire in a way that she's never been before because her coping mechanism is no longer serving her.

You know, I think she's always been able to compartmentalize things, put it in a box and shelve it. And, you know, this is too big of a tragic. event to be able to do that. So she has to, in a way, learn a new way of healing. And, you know, I appreciated the way that it's been dealt with. And I appreciate the journey I've been able to take her on this season. Um, you know, obviously there's new people who come to the ridge and they have an influence on that as well. Um, but I think, you know, even though it's a truncated show this season, it's only eight episodes. I think it's really. strong and we've continued as well to sort of play around with how we deal with things

stylistically which i think is really interesting um so yeah i'm excited i'm excited for it to come out i'm excited to see it i i've i've seen one episode so far um they very kindly sent me three and gave me 24 hours to watch it and i was like i've got a one month old what's wrong with you people there's a lot going on not going to happen so i've only seen the first episode which is great but uh yeah i'm excited to see the rest of it and the The last thing on the outlander front is, obviously, you mentioned eight episodes for the season six. Next season is not going to be so small. It's going to be the biggest, I think, since season one.

Yeah. And you've obviously got a lot going on in your life now. How are you, I mean, are you starting to see scripts? Are you looking forward to getting back to work? Or are you, I mean, again, you're at a different place. And this is a lot, it's a big workload. It's always a big workload. It's going to be bigger than ever.

Well, at 3.30 this morning, when I, was feeding my son. I got an email with the first two scripts. And I started, I mean, you have to look at your phone to keep yourself awake. So I started reading the first episode and then, you know, my eyes were getting crossed. But I'll have to look at that at another time. But yeah, so that's the first two apps have been, they're in my inbox. Okay. So it's exciting. Yeah. I mean, we're getting we're gearing up to to get back at it so um we'll see it's definitely going to be a tough one i mean yeah it'll it's we'll be shooting for an entire year so you know i think we're we're all in the words of dougal mackenzie we're going to gird our loins and uh get ready

because you know we'll have to dig deep i think for sure yeah by the by the like eighth hour of Sam just talking about episode nine of men and kilts and what a good time he was out just just tell him to shut up just tell him to text Josh and shut up he'll probably be on his seventh almanac at that point you know he's written seven books while he's waiting between tape like oh he's like Oprah he's got a publishing empire an energizing energizer bunny you know those little things that just never stopped beating the drum I'm like where do you get your energy from and please send some this way please well you were kind of to do a little cameo. And I'm not sure when this is airing, but maybe folks can see your little

cameo in a Sam sketch very soon. Thank you for that, by the way. Yes, that, that was, we spent a lot of time on that. I hope it's like this. A plus. It's perfect. It's perfect. Let's end with a couple questions from my listeners who wanted to know. One thing Gail Santos wanted to know is about your producing. We've talked about this before. Wanted to know how is the script for here is the B-Hive coming along would you and would you like to do live theater on broadway at some point i mean yes theater 100% please somebody help me make that happen i mean i would love to do a play absolutely um but you know those things are i think you've to you know it's it's it's hard to make those things happen but hopefully maybe one day we will yeah um producing your year-long commitment to outlander might get

exactly you know i'm like yeah in 2025 maybe um yeah on the production side you know things are tricking along tricking along um i um i um we're still in script development at the moment with beehive um but it's you know it's going well i think um again you know i think the thing with people knowing what you're what you have in development as they expect things to sort of happen overnight and these these are very long drawn out processes when especially when you've got other stuff going on um but i'm really enjoying it and it's really it's really exciting to sort of you know shepherd something from its infancy and and sort of um it's also it's a steep learning curve you know about how to um to figure out what it is that you want to do and how to achieve that

you know it's i think as an actor you're so used to coming in at the last minute and um you know being the being the being the sort of master of ceremonies in a way is is a much more difficult job than it looks um but i'm but i'm really enjoying it and there's a couple of other things that I have in development that are also trucking along very nicely. We won't mention those by name, so that way I won't ask you about it in the next five conversations. Then I won't have this pressure of other people who are like, so what is happening with that? I'm like, I'm not procrastinating.

It's just it takes time. Give this lady a break. She is bringing life into the world and bringing great entertainment into the world. I'm so happy for you in all respects. congratulations on all the family developments, but also thank you for this amazing performance. I really adore this movie. Thank you, Josh. Thank you so much.

I don't know anybody that's seen it that feels otherwise, and I know it's going to be a long, exciting road for it, and I'm there for you, every stop on the truck, the train, the train track. What are we, what's our analogy today? I don't know what all these transport analogies are. I don't know. We're both drunk. Yeah.

Well, you have a baby. I don't know what my excuse is for being with I'm drunk. Go get some rest. I'll see you soon. And thank you as always. Thank you so much. Always lovely chatting to you. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused.

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