Happy Sad Confused - Chris Hemsworth

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

Chris Hemsworth is pushing himself to limits on his news series, LIMITLESS. He joins Josh to talk about his latest venture, plus the future of THOR, why he's skeptical of a STAR TREK return, and his experience on FURIOSA. To watch episodes of Happy Sad Confused, subscribe to Josh's youtube channel here! Check out the Happy Sad Confused patreon here! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes of GAME NIGHT, video versions of the podcast, and more! Come see Josh tape LIVE Happy Sad Confused conversations in New York City! November 29th with Adam Sandler! Tickets available here! December 8th with Kumail Nanjiani! Tickets available here! For all of your media headlines remember to subscribe to The Wakeup newsletter here! NordVPN: EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/happysad Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! TRUE CLASSIC TEES: Get 25% OFF at @trueclassic with promo code HAPPYSAD at trueclassictees.com/HAPPYSAD #trueclassicpod BLISSY: Sleep better with Blissy and use HAPPYSAD to get an additional 30% off at blissy.com/HAPPYSAD Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Condition supply, visit your local Volvo retailer or go to explorevolvo.com. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, Sad, Confused begins now. Today on Happy, Say, Confused, Chris Hemsworth pushes himself to the limits with a new series on Disney Plus. Hey, guys, I'm Josh Horowitz, and welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. All right, let me just deal with the elephant in the room. I know my voice sounds like crap.

I sound, I think, worse than I am. confronting a little cold, no, it's not COVID, been taking the test, don't you worry. The truth is, guys, I have been busy. If you follow me on social media, I feel like you probably have a sense of this. In the last week, let me see if I can even remember what I've done, went to Los Angeles, hosted the press conference for Glass Onion, the new Knives Out movie, hosted the red carpet for Glass Onion, interviewed Anya Taylor Joy, came back to New York on the Red I interviewed Janelle Monet for MTV, did the first New York screening and hosted the panel

for Damien Chazelle's Babylon with some little known folks like Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie. Then I moderated the panel for devotion, with Jonathan Majors and Glenn Powell. And now I am barely upright. But I did talk to Chris Hemsworth yesterday, and that is now the main event on the podcast. today. Now, I'm not saying all that. You're probably like, whoa is me, Josh. You're hanging out with these amazing people. You're seeing these amazing movies. Just shut up. I get it. I sound obnoxious. I'm still tired.

I need a rest. But good news is the holidays are coming. I hope you guys have great plans to take a break for the Thanksgiving holiday and recharge the batteries. I know that's on my agenda. And yeah, well, we're going to hit the ground running right after the holiday with a ton more amazing episodes. And let me get this out of the way, too, some more live events in New York City. You can purchase your tickets to Adam Sandler, folks,

November 29th at 92 NY. We are screening his film Hustle, followed by a live happy sag-infused taping. That is going to be awesome. Then on December 8th, we have Mr. Kumail Nanjiani at 92N1. again, another live taping of Happy, Say, Confused. I believe we are going to show an episode of his new series,

the Chippendale series. So a lot to talk about, Kumal, about his very fascinating evolution as an actor, comic, performer, et cetera. So there'll be more to come, too. We have at least one more, I think, in December that is going to knock your socks off. So stay tuned. All the information, as always, is in the show notes. Okay.

You're probably here, though. Not for all that other stuff. you're probably here for Mr. Chris Hemsworth. And of course you should be. This man is a genetic marble. He's nine feet tall. He's gorgeous and talented. If he weren't so nice, I would hate him.

But he is super nice. And I've always enjoyed chatting with Chris, dating back to the first time we met when he was announced. Not announced, but I guess he came out on stage at Comic-Con with the first trailer for Thor. I think that was 2010. Again, as always, one of these guys. fun to reminisce about the journey the last, in this case, a dozen years.

Chris is in a great place right now. He has a new series on Disney Plus from Nat Geo that I really dug. It's called Limitless. And it is basically about confronting the limits that we face in our lives. Can we push through? Can we live longer, healthier lives? What is the path to that? It comes from Darren Aronofsky, so you know it's going to be special.

It's shot beautifully. It's really a cool show. We dig into a lot of it in this conversation. Plus talk, of course, about Thor, about the Star Trek movie that I still kind of hope happens with him returning. About Furiosa, which he just shot.

A lot of talk about that in this. You're going to get your money's worth. I promise you. This conversation was hosted at the Paley Center in New York City. I love the Paley Center. We did a recent Happy Second Feetaping with Colin Hanks there.

I moderated an event over there for War of the Rings. It's a beautiful, fantastic space that you should check out. If you're in New York City, they always have awesome events going on. So check it out. Paley Center, my big thanks to them for hosting this conversation. And hopefully we'll do many, many more. I think that's about it. I'm going to try to recover my voice for the next slew of conversations

as we get to get into award season. Fear not, I will be back healthier than ever. here to amuse and entertain you. And let's get right to it, I guess. Here is the conversation with my favorite Chris, at least today. It changes, depending on who I just spoke to. Chris Hemsworth on Happy Say I Confused. Please enjoy.

Chris, it's been way too long, buddy. It has. Thanks. Yeah. Congratulations on still being alive after your new series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to talk limitless. We're going to talk about a bunch of things.

First, let's reminisce for a second. I went back into my own small brain that exists. I think I met you, 2010, Comic-Con. I was like, oh, they actually cast Thor. Like, they just found Thor. When you think about the journey of the last dozen years, I don't know. I mean, does it feel like it's gone by in an instant, or does it feel like it's been 100 years since that time?

You both. It feels, on one hand, Like it was last year, like it was yesterday, and then the other, it feels like it's all I've been doing for my entire life and in the best way. When something has that amount of detail and requires that amount of commitment and that amount of time, you know, everything I've done is in comparison to that and everything I do is parallel to it. You know, I can run off and do other films and other characters and so on and then I come back to Thor. And so it's been the driving sort of foundation through my career. And it's been amazing. It's funny to think about like the different contexts I was like,

see you guys in like Comic-Conns or podcast studios or whatever. And I don't expect you to remember this. I think the second time I met you was at Sundance. And it was you and Liam like getting free snowboards basically. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. We were there with Oakley, I think, or someone.

Yeah. Yeah, that was the early days of fame and, like, really, really just taking advantage of all the free, free kit they'd give you. I was like, sick. Free snowboards, sunglasses, I'm coming. What's the weirdest free shit you've got in over the years? What's the stuff that? I mean, I've been sent some pretty random stuff, you know, I've got, I remember getting the Santa shirt once, and I was like, oh, this is nice. I put it on, and I was like, it kind of smells like it's been worn, and sure enough.

for some heavy B-O-scent. A B-O-scented shirt? Yeah, right under. No, someone who'd worn it. Oh, I see. Yeah. You've got second hand. It was a hand-me-down. And, you know, good, good.

Hey, no waste, I guess. You can have the shirt off my back literally after this. I don't think this is quite the same size. This show is amazing. Let's talk a little bit about Limitless. So this is a new show. It's Nat Geo. It's on Disney Plus.

You know it's not your run-in-the-mill reality show, and it's not only you, but it's like Darren Aronofsky, come on. This is the way to do it. Is this a pitch to you? Is this something you develop? Do they come to you say, like, we want to try to kill you six weeks in a row? Like, what is this?

So Darren Aronofsky came to me, probably going on three years now, and said, I want to do this doc series. It's about longevity, basically how to live along the better life. And we're going to put you through a series of different tests and challenges to test a lot of the, emerging science around longevity. So there'd be an episode on shock and we're going to throw you in the Arctic Ocean

and there's a stress episode and we're going to walk across a beam on a skyscraper, fasting episode, acceptance of death and a few others. And I was like, okay, different to anything I've done before and sounds fascinating and why not. We initially were supposed to shoot it over three or four weeks and then due to COVID and different schedules

and so on, the thing got pushed over about two and a half years. So it, you know, I'd be lying if I said I knew what the show was at the beginning versus what it became in a wonderful way. It was allowed to evolve constantly. We're adapting to different things that were changing constantly, but also my interest and my sort of commitment to it grew even more. And then Darren said, great, we're going to ramp this up and ramp that.

And they're just having more time to sit with each episode. We could flesh them out in greater detail. It was one of the best experiences I've had. It was, as you say before, there were, you know, the irony of it all was in order to live longer, let's attempt to kill you. And so there was some pretty intense kind of stunts and situations I found myself in. It has to be seen to be believed.

You know that, like, first of all, this is it returned to your roots, your reality roots, obviously dancing with the stars. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my real inspiration. I was like, I kind of raised the bar there and let's see if I can continue. If you wanted to do reality If you wanted to do reality You could have just done

Living with the Hemsworth And become a billionaire Like that's an easier show And there's no risk of death Yeah Well there were years You'll come to my house sometime You'll see some risk of death

You'll see some risk of death You'll see that You know The dangerous animals I have My three kids Savage beasts there Climbing the walls literally Yeah

The first episode I'll talk about a couple of the episodes Stress is the first one And it feels like A glorified backdoor pitch to put yourself in a Mission Impossible movie? I don't know. Well, it's interesting. The stress one, like, I'd walk out

in a beam a thousand feet off the ground, and look, I'm not running alongside the building, like Tom Cruise. But this was my first taste of it, and it was interesting. I went up there, my heart rate went to about 1.45

and then they were monitoring, you know, my breath, my heart rate, so on. And through the technique, I learned I was able to bring my heart rate back down to like 80 and it was just fascinating and be able to have something wildly entertaining but also backed by science and see it in real time being put to use. So that was a really cool one. I mean even prior to that actual the beam, the walk across the skyscraper, I worked with the special forces in Australia, did some

drownproofing exercises and that stuff watching that. Oh, it's intense. Tied my hands and feet together and threw me to pool and I feel like I was watching a snuff film I'm like what are we going to watch Chris Hemsworth die in front of me I thought I was part of one but is it wrong that it makes me it's my happy place to watch you be stressed for an hour like oh like hey it whatever whatever gets you there that's I'm here to provide that entertainment and I'll be the conduit for your happiness but I like look it's I think it's really interesting because the show is very intimate very kind of revealing like you know your family's in the show and you talk about like it's very

relatable to hear you talk about stress and like your idea of stress is like being in a restaurant with your kids melting down and people watching you, which I think any parent, any human person basically. Yeah. I mean, it's sort of amplified a bit if people whip out their phones and they start filming. Yeah, I think being, you know, if I'm prepped for a situation, I'm walking on stage, I mean, there's a red carpet and an event. I'm like, okay, here we go. You know, There's a lot of energy in this experience and I focus and I know what I'm doing. For me, what catches me and makes me anxious is, yeah, in public situations when I'm unaware of it and all of a sudden, well, there's a crowd of people.

All of a sudden, something happens and everyone's looking and like, and in this episode, we talk about it, you know, it's about just coming back to your breath. And also, I think we're so used to triggering our fight or flight that we're constantly walking in a state of adrenaline when we don't need to be. And so when those things happen now, I'm like, there's not a dinosaur chasing you. There's no great threat. This is, you know, this is

there's a pre-programmed thing that's occurring here which I have to kind of back myself out of. Well, it's interesting. I mean, we're also living in times where it feels like we're a constant threat. Like, oh, the world's about to end in 17 different ways. So we're all going through this together in a way. Yeah. And it does. It goes back to

you know, many, many, many years ago and our early development as human beings of, you know, that was there for our survival, you know, the fight or flight was there so we didn't get eaten by a dinosaur and we're constantly on there. We're now in a space where we're not threatened day to day, yet we are still triggering ourselves continuously and due to social media. Everything on there is designed to trigger a big emotion. And so it's really damaging.

It's so detrimental to our health. And you look at sort of brain health, cardiovascular, heart disease, so on. All of these things, stress is one of the biggest influences on being taken down by one of these things. And so reduction of stress, stress management, having a greater place of stillness in your life and more consistency with that is not only with your emotional health, your mental health, but your physical health. I find my injuries play up when I'm stressed if I haven't slept enough. of, I'm worried about something. My back starts to hurt, you know. And so it's all linked, the whole sort of kinetic chain of our system.

So we need to give it all equal attention. Let's apply this to your career. What's the most stressed you've been going into a job? Like the night before you were like, get me out of this, pack me out of this is not going to work. Well, I just finished shooting Furiosa with George Miller. It's part of the Mad Max saga. And that, often I get a script, and I know from the first read,

second read I know who the character is and they get an instant sort of visceral kind of feeling attached to it and I go right got it right this I had read two years before started I started shooting and it was in awe of the script it's the most beautiful thing I've read I love George Miller but I didn't know who this character was and we did about four weeks of rehearsals and we started digging in and diving into it and things started coming to me and then about two weeks prior a shooting, something clicked. I'm like, ooh, oh, I think that's who it is. I think that's how we moved.

But in the buildup, and I'm talking a couple of years, I was scared out of my mind. I'm like, I'm going to derail, you know, one of the most iconic franchises. I'm going to bring down Mad Max. It's going to be mindful. Not in the right way. Not in the right way, no, no. Well, I was going to say, war war war Dementous. Sounds like a really sweet guy.

Yeah, so he's a pleasant fellow, yeah. We were kicking out about that. I have just talked to Ania. I'm a Miller obsessive. Your Road is like one of the top movies I've ever seen. My favorite films, yep. So did it live up to the experience in retrospect now? So you found the character.

Oh, mate. It best, I think the best experience in my career. And something I'm the most proud of, too. I put more work into it than anything I've ever done. And the collaboration I had with George was just beautiful. And working with Anya was incredible. Had you ever met with George before? Were you way too young when he was looking for the new Macs?

Was there? I think I asked my manager years ago about Mad Max, and then Tom Hardy had already been cast. Got it. And so, yeah, but I'd always sort of wondered, you know, I'd miss my window. And then the opportunity came and... You found it, man. I'm so excited.

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and remember to get your discount now. Look, there's another, you know, there's a really revealing, I can't remember which episode it's in. There's a revealing moment, as I said, it's an interesting show because it shows some very candid moments and you're speaking very openly. And something I didn't, wasn't aware of. Like, you talk about, like, getting into acting at first

as a means of, like, getting your family out of debt, essentially? Pretty much, yeah. I mean, we all have different sort of motivations at different times, but I was in high school, you know, my parents were, broke and and I mean like a lot of people though you know and and living sort of week to week paycheck and I remember talking to my dad about when you know when would he pay the house off and he just sort of laughed and said oh never you know and I thought that's unfair you know and I don't know why I felt that I would say financial burden it wasn't on me but I felt it on

them as a young kid and just wanted to you know do something about it I had the most wonderful childhood they would save up all year long and work their ass off and then take us on a two-week camping trip you know and that was that was what we did and um so that became my sort of driving force to to i don't know make some money and and help out and i looked at a million different things and but i always love filmmaking and and stories and watching films but i didn't think of it as a career until someone said do this acting course and i said oh yeah cool and then i did one acting course and like, I'm going to Hollywood, this is what I'm doing, and everything fell by the wayside, and that became my focus in an obsessive way.

And I don't know, I had a, I think when you, when there's something outside of yourself driving you to any success, it has a bit more substance, I think. Yes, I had my personal goals and things I wanted to achieve, but I was doing it for someone else. And it was a really interesting transition when I finally made some money and I paid my parents' house off. I went, oh, now what? You know? And I had to... Because I would think that's so ingrained. Like, if you grew up

like that and always worrying about money and seeing your parents stressed, it's like, when the money comes in, it's not an immediate switch. It probably takes a while to actually... I'm not... This is going to sound absurd, but like, I have moments from, like, got to go, hang on, are we okay? Like, I'm just going to run out? Like, is it all going to end? And am I going to be

back to where we were? And, and... But I've always... I think I loved, I've always loved acting, as I said, and being a part of the process. And so I was able to fall in love with it then again, I think. You know, and you've got to find different motivations all the time because we have goals. We achieve them and on to the next one. That's why you're here on the podcast.

As you know, I slipped you a $50 bill at the end of this. I said it, if you've been, $75. Then he takes a shirt off. Yeah, take a shirt off. Like a drinking game with your projects. When is he? Oh, six minutes since in the first episode. Yep, that's about right.

There it is. There's also this episode. I believe it's the one on acceptance that is amazing. It's, I don't know, have you watched Nathan Fielder? It feels like a Nathan Fielder episode of his show, The Rehearsal, except with you in the center of it. It's just an amazing. Okay, so basically Chris is experiencing what it's like to be an octogenarian and accept the end of life. Yeah.

You're kind of like in a nursing home. You have the suit that approximates what it's like to be that old else's in there and full makeup. It's just, it's so trippy. It must have been a bizarre experience. It was bizarre and profound and wonderful. The rest of the series, each episode is quite physically challenging. There's one on memory where we navigate our way through the forest over a couple of day period

and use our brains the way they should be used. This episode, as you say, acceptance of death and end of life. And the science around that states that people with a greater understanding that there is a finite conclusion to this or there is an end to this life and an acceptance of that live along the life. They live with a greater sense of gratitude and a greater sense of, well, it's not going to last forever, make the most of it. So I was put into this immersive theatre situation over three days in an elderly retirement village and was interacting and talking to people who were, you know, at the final years in their life, in their later years, a young lady who had stage four cancer. I talked with a death douler and a palliative care worker who worked with people who were dying

and helped them through that and helped them through. or try to avoid some of the pain that's around that, but also just, again, having a greater understanding and acceptance that it is what it is. And my wife was in it dressed as a, you know, in full prosthetics. But I didn't know she was going to be there. But it was kind of life-changing, you know. Not often, unless you have a brush with death or, you know,

I guess we go to funerals occasionally and there's a reminder there. But to act out what my... last moments would be and actually walk through a death meditation and then describe who I would want around and so on was, as I said, profound and intense, but did make me think, wow, this is, this is, this is an opportunity as a young guy, not as an 85 year old going, oh, I wish I did this and this, to go, wow, this is how I want to live. I want to live with the greatest state of appreciation. And also, just be more present and still and not run from. one thing to the next and on to the next and sort of never really soak it up and and

you know appreciate what's right in front of you it's a profound watching it i can only imagine what the experience was like i mean though i will say if you're looking for the secret to immortality you you have friends you have paul rud i'm sure you've run into keanu you can just ask them what they're doing and you could have skipped this whole process i could have i could have i could have i mean that was speaking of movies and characters that was darren erinofsky's kind of um the inspiration for doing the series when he did the fountain. I was going to say,

it's totally a theme that's exactly that. And Hugh Jackman has a line in it, which is death is a disease, and I'm going to figure out or find the cure. Yeah. Yeah. So speaking of Rudd, it seems like People Magazine is now just going down

the roster of Sextiest, of Avengers to go through the sexiest method. So you got to Chris Evans a scraping the barrel. Yeah, now it's like, what are you doing? About time, I said. You were ahead of the curve. You were, I think, 2014.

Yeah. the right people. Those guys spent a lot of money, but I'm telling you in the wrong place. Yeah, we'll suck it up. I guess he's in okay shape. We'll do it, whatever. Rudd last year, Evans now. How bitter and angry do you think, like Renner and Ruffalo are right now? How much are they paying their publicists? Didn't Ruffalo get it? I thought Ruffalo did have sexiest man, no? In your heart. In my heart. Yeah, maybe that's every day. I mean, he's in the wallpaper on my phone, so that's, that says that. Um, yeah. Who's next? Do you feel like, uh, How about Downey?

Downy? I mean, how did he miss? There's still time. There's still time, yeah. By the way, speaking of stress, I feel like he's the least stressed human being on the planet. Is he like being still Zen man? He's become the sort of sage Buddha, hasn't he? Yeah.

I think there's no one more comfortable in their own skin. I can't relate less. Like, I don't. I think he having, you know, to have this incredible career and also to up and down, I think, you know, and challenges, people like that, they have come out the other side. They've come to the other side and there's an appreciation, you know, and, and, and only from experience, you know, and I think, uh, he's just loving every second of it, you know? You should, I don't know if you've checked it out. The new doc about his dad is amazing. Senior is amazing. Very, speaking of intimate and later people in, it's, it's remarkable.

Oh, cool. The, um, so that, I've heard that the text thread still exists with the Avengers. Yeah. Who responds first? If you sent one to the thread right now, who pops in first, who pops in last? Downy's pretty consistent. Yeah. He's there, yeah. You want to wake him up now?

You want to text him? What are you doing, Gus? I did that once. I did that with, I was interviewing Mackie and Sebastian, and I said, both of you text Evans at the same time. And see who he responds. He responds you first, and he responded to Mackey first, and Sebastian's heart died. I watched his heart die. I don't want to be.

You don't want to get in there? I don't want my heart to die, or someone else's. Looking ahead, I know you can never spill anything on the Marvel front, but where do you go with Thor at this point? I mean, here's the conundrum I feel like you're in. Like, after Tyca, if, I mean, maybe Tyca comes back or not, but like, what do you do if he doesn't come back? Like, would Thor go back to dramatic? I think, like, you know, I mean, you look at Thor one and two, they were quite similar. Ragnarok, Love and Thunder similar.

I think it's about reinventing it. Yeah. And I think I've had such a unique opportunity, even with sort of, I mean, Infinity War and Endgame to do very drastic things with the character. I enjoy that, you know. I like keeping people on their toes, but it keeps me in my toes. It keeps me invested. And I've said this before, but when it becomes too familiar, I think there's a risk of getting lazy thing

because I know what I'm doing, you know. So I don't know. Again, I don't know if I'm even invited back, but if I was, I think it would be a, it'd have to be a drastically different version. Yeah. Tone everything just for just for my own sanity. Yeah, I can't tell. Have they key, you, I think he'll lost his mind that last one. I don't know.

Figure it out now. Have you ever felt like really, I don't know when that character? Like, I would imagine, like, ironically, some of the most dramatic stuff you did was like, as that Thor. And being in that and having to deliver these really dramatic emotional moments, I'm sure on set, you're like, wait, is this going to work?

You're always like, is this going to work? I mean, I remember that scene where I sort of start breaking down, pitching everyone the mission and talking about my family and who died and so on. And then it just, your little moments like that in career where everything lines up and there was a bit of improv and so on

and I think it ended with me saying I want to Bloody Mary to Downey and he said to me how do you feel and I said yeah it's pretty special he goes every now and then a few times in your career you have little moments where you hit the bull's eye and it's like in that scene you're in the sweet spot and he said I enjoy it and it was a really

I really appreciated that because I definitely felt something special about that moment but who am I to judge you know right and so to have the godfather lean over and say, well done, son. You're not the type at the end of a take that you feel like you nailed, be like, we got it, guys, moving on, we did it. Big fist pump.

Woo! It's the Mackey. Why are we still filming? Pack it up. Yeah, it's the Anthony Mackey cut the check moments, right? Are you able to keep up with everything? Because I'm paid to do this, Chris, and I can barely keep up with all the Marvel stuff. Like, what percentage of all those shows have you watched?

Oh, no, no. And I would love to. I saw an episode of that Loki. And I thought, oh, that's cool. You didn't watch all Voki? I'm going to cry now. I've got three kids, mate. Three kids and I'm, you know, off gallivanting around the place.

And, no, I haven't watched anything. Yeah. It's not because I don't want to. I just haven't had time. No, I got you. I got you. Do you watch, like, what do you watch when you have the opportunity? Like, are you a Ralee watcher?

Do you watch with Elsa, with a family? Pinky Blinders has been a favorite of month. Yeah, yeah. It's wicked. I could watch Killiam. Murphy all day. It's incredible. What have I watched? I mean, look, I can't even, I don't know.

Whatever my kids are watching. Right. Yeah. Which recently was jackass. And I'm like, that's not a kid's movie! And asking all sorts of questions, which I can't answer. Again, it's not so far off from Limitless. It's, again, putting a body through, you know, John Knoxville should be dead by now, too. That's right. No, maybe that's what it is. It's testing the human potential there and how much we can suffer. You should be in the next Jackass movie.

Yeah, then I definitely won't be doing another Thor movie unless he's in a wheelchair, because I reckon they'd break me. Marvel, like, kind of realized what you were doing at a certain point. It was like, what the, dude? So initially I had, well, the rope climb, which was a hundred-foot rope dangling from a cable cart, a thousand feet off the ground between two mountains in Sydney, Australia. And the furthest I'd climbed was like, yeah, I don't know. what was it, probably 20 feet or something.

And in this sort of training. And so now I'm at 100 foot rope. I'd been training. It was supposed to be a truck pull. I'd hurt my back doing that. So we transitioned to the rope climb. My trainer said, don't get very big though, because the heavy you are, the harder it is to get up that rope.

I then, in training, busted my ankle, tore the ligaments, and then Marvel stepped in and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can go do this crazy thing, but do it after we finish for Love and Thunder. so that meant when I came back to shoot it I was at Thoris and my trainer said

we're screwed mate and so there was some technique involved but it just became sheer will and grit and determination to get up that rope it was like a silverback gorilla right just kind of going for it's funny again one of the more profound moments I found in the show was you talking to the elderly gentleman

who had been such a physical performer earlier in his career and like look you as somebody that like the body is very important in terms of the work that you've done and like that's something you probably have to think or you need to think about our bodies don't laugh no absolutely and that's it's confronting yeah especially you know i mean if you're if it's for everybody but um i don't know just in my personal experience it's so much of my life has been around my physicality and and being able to be outside and my happiness is so dependent on how much i've i can train or surf or

be active and, you know, confront the truth and the inevitability that it will all change and those things will be diminished at a certain point is scary. And I've had injuries over the years and my whole mood changes, you know. I go fall into a state of depression if I'm like, my back's down and I can't train and I can't move. And who am I if I can't scale this mountain? It's more just the endorphin kick, the sort of like it's meditative for me you know i get out of my out of my head and i'm into my body for that space and you're just thinking about what's in front of you and um that is the the emotional uh component that training gives me is equally as important as the physical but it's it's i also

learn to train differently now and approach things differently and with a little more sort of uh caution except the series this the series is trying to kill me outside of this everything else is caution. But you train smart, you know, as opposed to just kind of thrown it at the wall and everything's a flat stick. It's like, there's a better way of doing this. So when somebody comes to you, like your good buddy Josh Harrow is and says, okay, step one, I want to get in better shape. I want to live more healthily. Food or food, diet, exercise. What's step one in the Chris Hemsworth guide to? Step one. Figure out the purpose and the why that you want to get in shape. I want to impress you. You impress me if that'll, I don't know if that will hold two for

for a very long. It's all I've been seeking. I'm already happy. I'm already proud of you. Now what I think it's figuring, like the anything, whether it would be dietary training that you're going to adhere to, is what's,

or that the thing that you can stick to is the thing that's going to work. I could give you 10 different things and you might hate all of them. You might not want to go on this diet. You might not like running. You might not like, you know, this kind of train. So I'd say,

try a bunch of different things and see what you, do you have any, interest in, you know, and what works. And also keep moving, you know, the movement creates the motivation. Don't sit in the couch and wait. Just know that and trust that there's no single person on the planet that trains and so on that would tell you that once you start, you don't become addicted to it. Yeah. And so it should be because you live a longer, healthier, happier life. It sounds like, I'm sure, extraction too, is probably a very light lift for you physically. Is there a subtitle, by the way?

Is it like extraction two, more extractions? Rake's not dead. Surprise, spoiler, he's back. Too many people watched it, so we brought him back. We were so proud that we're like, no, we're killing him. We're killing the character. And, you know, that's it. And then they're like, there might be a sequel, though.

That was, yeah, that was crazy, that film. We, I don't know, as you do, it's like, what do we do now? Bigger, you know, more. Yeah. And we have an even longer oner sequence in the film. We had a helicopter, you know, the moving train going at, I don't know, 40 clicks or whatever, and a helicopter landing on the train, six guys coming out, climbing down the cart into a fight with me. I go up on the top, grab a gun, I'm shooting at the helicopter that's now flying backwards in front of the train going at full speed.

It was wild. And then we had 300 extras in a sort of old boy type sequence. choreographed fight speaking my language yeah it was wild this films it's next level it's cool look you know I'm a big old nerd

I'm never gonna see the Star Trek movie am I it's that did you read the script did you like that script I got asked about that the other day you were going to come back it was going to be almost like a buddy movie between father and son a time travel kind of thing

yeah it just wasn't it's a few reasons but it didn't really it wasn't what I sort of where I was thinking it would have been or could have been. And I thought there'd be, you know, oh, cool, let's figure that out and keep going.

And then I think everyone just got busy and so on. But it'd be a bit weird now to flash back to your father and why is he so much older than the first time when he died? At least we still have that sequence for my money is just one of the best. We can campaign get it going though. Yeah, there you go.

Have you read the way? You worked with Michael Mann, obviously, on Blockcat. I've heard some people talk, and I thought of this too. I was reading the heat sequel. book that he wrote. Oh, I didn't know he wrote a book. You don't know about this. And it centers on

the Val Kilmer character from Heat. Chris. Chris. Who I have casted in my own brain and others have. Oh, really? Yeah. You, Mr. Kosterth, what do you think? That's cool. Because he wants to make a movie. He does, yeah. Yeah. I love Michael Man.

Michael Man has very intense shooting style. A lot of takes. Long days. A lot of coverage. And he's He's a master at it. I kind of love my time at home with the kids. And so I'd have a serious chat and go, I'll do it, I'll do it. But let's do some more comfortable work hours because I don't know, I'm at a different point in my life where like doing 20 hours on a set.

I don't know. I'd rather be with my kids. He's the only part. He was on the podcast. He came into my office. He comes in. I say that with full love and respect. It's an appreciation for his stamina,

which I worry if I could match it. No, I hear it. He came into my office with a binder, Chris, of, like, reference material of his own work. Amazing. Put it on the desk as we start this, like, hour-long conversation. I'm like, already intimidated. I'm like, dude, this guy. I worked with him, and he was like, yeah, you know, talk about the character.

I was like, yeah, I was thinking this. And he goes, and a big binder of my backstory's there on the table. I'm like, oh, you wrote my backstory. Okay. Cool. And every conversation we'd have, someone would type it. up and I'd get like a transcript of it afterward and I'm like this is there is this the attention to detail is is is masterful and incredible um yeah I'm looking forward to he's shooting at the moment

he just finished it for uh yeah yeah yeah awesome do you uh do you consult with the brothers on what they're doing when did you know that Liam was going to don his crazy hair as the witcher what do you think about are you excited to make fun of that hair for the next few years uh I didn't does he have to have that hair I don't know I don't think there's a crew cut I don't think that's possible No, I don't know. I haven't watched the show and I don't know the books. Yeah, I'm stoked for him. He's kind of been itching to do something, something like that. And, you know, he'll fit right in. That's cool. It's going to be awesome. Okay. In our remaining moments, I want to mention, I've been asking folks the last couple years when we've needed comfort more than ever in the pandemic, etc.

Do you have a comfort movie? Like, what's the movie you turn on when? Yeah, I'll tell you, there is a movie when I'm a little hungover. or I'm just feeling down wedding crashes I've seen it my wife's like oh again

I'm like come on it'll make us feel better and it always doesn't it is the best I think it's one of my favorite films it always works I support that one

what's yours you know what's a weird one I'm gonna sound like a big old nerd and this is not anyone's version I would go Fury Road I would go Star Trek it was kind of like big

like assuring nerd movies. I was a nerd growing up. I know a big surprise. Hey, that was I, mate. I watched, when my mates were going out on the weekends, it's through high school, I'd be watching movies. Not because I wanted to be an actor, because I wanted to live in, you know, Middle Earth. Or I wanted to be in Star Wars on that. Well, I remember us talking years ago, like, when you were doing Huntsman and you were like, you mentioned, I think, like, Mad Mardigan. And I was like, you're speaking, I like, I like this man. The funny thing about Huntson was, I thought we were making Princess Bride. And then

And three of the most talented women in the business were giving Oscar-worthy performances. And I'm there giving, like, romantic comedy brisk. I was like, uh... Anybody want to break the fourth wall? Oops. Yeah. No. I'm not doing that.

I was like, uh... Do you have another limitless season in you? I mean, or is that pushing your luck? Like, they came close enough to killing you this person. I don't know. Again, I don't know. Yeah, look, never say never to anything. I produce this one

and if we do another one I'll produce that I think it might be time for someone else to come and step in and have a go throw Ruffalo in there sexy the next sexiest man alive man or Scarlett should be pretty awesome oh wait one last thing

Hulk Hogan is still on the docket or no is that still being talked about it's still being talked about I don't know what they're talking about though I know it's like no I asked about it and they're like oh yeah there's a script and a thing and Todd Phillips was doing a Joker film.

I mean, that one scares me in the sense of like, God, do I want to get that big. You know, it was the last time this was the biggest they ever got. And a lot of it for Thor and a lot of it was just, I was in sort of COVID lockdowns sort of scenario, treating it like prison. I was like eating and training, eating and training. And then, but it was so hard to maintain.

And I, yeah, I don't know. The thought of doing that again, and some, because I think he's even bigger than what I was in that film. It scares me. Maybe next Thor, look, we've done fat Thor. We've done, like, just Jack Thor. Maybe we go just thin Thor. Normal Thor, I'd love that.

CGI Thor. Why does everyone else get their muscles painted on, and no one's offered me that? This man's put in the hard work, guys. Let him off. Let him just enjoy life. Use my body from the last film. Man, it's been so great to go on this journey with you the last dozen years. I look forward to many more conversations.

You're one of the good ones, my friend. Thank you for doing the podcast, finally. Thanks, buddy. And my thanks to Chris, thanks to Paley Center for hosting this. They're amazing. And everybody should honestly check out Limba's List. I'm obsessed. It's a good one now.

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