Happy Sad Confused - Claire Foy & Andrew Scott

Episode Date: December 25, 2023

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What's the worst note a director has ever given you? Oh, I know mine. Start acting, darling. Oh, fuck, yeah. Who the fuck? Who said that? First job I ever did on TV, which was Being Human, the pilot. With Russell, yeah. With Russell, yeah.

Yeah, and I didn't know we were rehearsed. I didn't know what we were doing, and he shouted it at me. Oh, that's horrible. He doesn't really work anymore. But you fucking do. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. I'm Josh Horowitz, and today on Happy, Sad, Confused,

we're live at Symphony Space with our holiday show with Andrew Scott and Claire Fully, everybody. Here we are. Happy holidays. Thank you all so much for coming out tonight. I love doing these live events at Symphony Space. Isn't this space gorgeous? Thank you for coming out.

We are celebrating these two amazing actors, this remarkable movie, all of us strangers, so moving. We're giving you a sneak peek at that. It is coming out December 22nd. We're going to talk about that. We're going to be a little silly, a little smart. Everything that Happy Say I confused is, hopefully, tonight.

Thank you again for you. joining us. I'm so thrilled about these two guests in particular because one is a veteran and one is a newbie to the podcast, and they're both two of the finest actors on the planet. I'm sure you will agree. Andrew, yes, come on. Andrew Scott, where do we begin? Fleabag, Sherlock, he's a hot priest, he's a great actor, he's one of the truly best, and this performance will just it'll blow your mind. He's getting all the accolades he deserves for it. Claire

Foy, I mean, come on. Claire Foy is one of the patron saints of Happy Sack Confused. The Crown Season of the Witch. I'm sorry, Claire. I had to say it. I had to say it. No, she's one of my favorites. Please give a warm New York welcome to Claire

Foy and Andrew Scott, everybody. Andrew sent a long rider. The napkins must match my clothing. Welcome, guys. Lots of love in the air for you guys in this amazing film. Congratulations. Thank you. I don't believe anything clear has said about me, first of all, okay? Okay, that's a relief. Okay.

Do you guys ever get butterflies walking onto a stage at this point in your life? I mean, you've done so much theater, you've done so many acclaimed works. Does it ever happen? Do you ever have that flash of, oh, my God, it's all going to go wrong? Sometimes it happens when I'm on stage, or you're on stage and you're, you know, acting. And you think, what a fucking mental thing. to do for a living and you're like, Bonjour, and it suddenly

hits you. Have you ever had that? Sometimes when I'm on stage, I go, what are my hands doing? And then all I'm thinking is, there's another line coming. And then you just keep speaking and the lines come out, but then you're still going, but I'm still thinking about my hands. How is this possible? Yeah, it's interesting. Do you ever lock eyes with somebody in the audience, like somebody you know,

a celebrity that totally takes you out of the moment? when I was playing Hamlet I promise you this is true a guy took out his laptop, not his phone his laptop answer a couple of emails

and I was in the middle of to be your fucking not to be and I was like pausing and they were like you know get on with it and I was like there is no way and he didn't realize I stopped for ages and I was like, and he was like, and then he was like, oh, sorry.

He didn't. He didn't. Yeah, yeah. That is a man at peace with himself. He absolutely, no doubt. It was my agent. Wish I had a lot. Times like these, I wish I had a laptop I could bring out in the middle of your story and just be like, here I am, I'm back.

So I assume that every British Irish actor just knows each other. They're hang out in the club. They're in the WhatsApp group. It's true. Thought of true, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how far do you guys go back? This is your first collaboration, as far as I know.

What's the meet, cute story of Andrew Scott and Claire Foy? Can you remember? I can't remember when we first met. I can't remember when we first met, but I can remember lots of... I think it's 15. years ago. It was 15 years ago. So we were like 10 or 11. Salad day. No, we have loads of mutual friends. Yeah. Okay. Any, ever, any, uh, ever offer any roles in projects as far as you know?

Yeah, I, I accepted a part that Claire was going to, yeah. And she dropped out, so that was, that was like, I know, to be fair, I know why you did. Yes. Because you didn't want that for me. No, it was because it was It was in Prague, wasn't it? It was prank. And then it turned out, you actually got stuck there. Oh, yeah, we went home, yeah.

I was like, I made the right choice. Yeah. No, it was very difficult to pull out of. Anyway, it was, I'd never pull out of things. No, no, no, she really doesn't, no. Only when Andrew Scott was a bottle. But not this one. Not this one, exactly.

She tried in fashion. Because in classic Hollywood fashion, Claire Foy is playing Andrew Scott's mother. classic Hollywood, come on. It makes sense. Don't worry, it makes sense. It makes total sense. We're going to get to that, but before we get to that,

let me get a sense of how well you know each other. Claire, do you know what Andrews, the film Andrew appeared in 1998, a wonderful war film? In 1998? Oh, we're saving by Ryan. Yes! Yeah, I know that, because you told me

there's, anyway, stories about it. I just won't shut up about it. You remember it was the time I was Spielberg on set again. Andrew, do you know the name of Claire's dog? No, I don't think I do. I thought you were going to say Claire's first job and it was Little Dard because I remember it said to me. Do you answer a question I wasn't?

That's niche. That's niche. Little Dara. Yeah, Claire was a sensation of Dara. But I know that I shouldn't get any points for that because it's not the question that was asked. That's okay. That's bonus. Not because he doesn't, not interested is because I haven't told him. What's your dog called, Darnie?

Poppy. She's red. How's Poppy doing? Last time we spoke, there was some stomach issues. There was some, yeah, she often has bowel issues. Yeah. That's what happens. Join the club.

Here we are. Feel your puppy. No, she's great. She's with my mother, so she never wants to sleep. Claire, who did Andrew play in Sherlock? That's the way up. Come on. Moria.

I'm a really big. I've seen a lot of your stage work, haven't I, darling? Yes, and I'm me and yours. I'm me, yours. Yeah, that's true. The press night. Yeah, so you played the Lady M. You did?

You're one of those. You don't say the name, huh? I wouldn't say the name. I wouldn't say the Scottish play's name. I would say it all the time, but now we're on stage, I feel like we should not get struck by a bottle of lightning or something. We shouldn't. Yeah.

Yeah. You'll think I go. We're doing this all down. If you say it, we're all cursed together. I'm not going to say it. You're not going to say it? No, I wouldn't say it. I don't think.

I mean, I don't really believe in all that sort of stuff. Seems like you do. I'm not too much. But no one say that goddamn word. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Let's not. Andrew, what is the name of the Nicholas Cage film that I always bring up?

Season of the Witch. Yes. Did you go up for Season of the Witch? I think I think I might have. Yeah. They auditioned everybody. They did. And you'd see, honestly, I remember

going up the stairs and seeing Eddie Redmay coming down the stairs. I was like, oh, he's gone up for him. Literally everyone went up for him. Very sorry. Hardest script in town. Well, they sort of sometimes do that, don't they? Where they just see everybody. I remember, I think I auditioned for 17 different types

of Hobbit. Wait, they didn't like you for Frodo, but why don't you come in for little Johnny Jojo? I see lots of other sort of short actors. Like, hey, are you? Nice to see you. I wasn't going to go down that road, but what is the audition that's stuck in your brain? Until your dying day, you're on your deathbed, you're going to remember this experience for good or for bad. Is it a hobbit? Is it putting on a cape and spandex? What happened?

I remember going into an audition that I had not prepared for because sometimes they just give you sides. They don't give you the whole script because Papa Hollywood is insane. And the first question she said to me was, so would you do it? and I was like would I do it? And she was like, yeah, would you do what he does the lead character?

I was, fuck because she was talking about and I was like yeah, I think I think I would do it she was like, would you? And I was like

Yeah, no, I think I mean it would be a it would be a hard decision and I think I would do it and it turned out it was slaughtering horses Did you get it?

And I got it, yeah. Roll the clip. I wish. Do you have a slaughtering horse audition story, Claire? No, I don't know I can say any of mine. Without naming what it is, can you remove the names? How's the, like, strange ones? I can't say that one.

Well, just because there's been some controversy since, so I can't. Oh, okay, no, we're not going. I once had a meeting with Ben Stiller. Oh, before I'd done anything really, so I don't even know what was doing there, but this also sounds like a controversial, and it's not. Like, in a hotel room, in London, but we didn't, we sort of, I can't remember, I think I must have sort of slightly forgotten the expose, because I remember a starting acting, but I don't remember a Spanish because I think it was so awful.

I've removed myself for my own body, and then I left. And I don't, it never happened the film though, so I feel like... It's okay. It wasn't meant to be. It wasn't meant to be. Was it a comedy? It was set in a jungle. Did you go out for that one as it?

Was it short people? I'm off it, fairy feet. Exactly. That's why I'm. Do you like auditioning? I love... I would much rather auditioning. Yeah, I'm with you. You would much rather auditioning. Yeah.

You want to prove to yourself. know what you're doing. I don't know. You feel like, I don't know you feel maybe that you deserve to be there other than. But also you get to try each other on it.

Yeah. One of my best auditions at all times when I auditioned with Damian Chazelle and I did the scene and he afterwards went, okay, shall we go and meet Ryan? Is that Ryan Gosling? As in Gosling.

So I didn't think that. I went, yes, absolutely. And then got in a car and drove and then went and met Ryan. And I went, if I don't get this job, This is so cruel. Like, it's the worst thing you could possibly ever do. But also, what if I met Ryan,

and Ryan just went, you know, and they were there in secret code? Yeah. I got through it. Yeah. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God.

First man, one of my favorites. Andrew, did they take you to meet Ryan Gosling after you got this role? Say again. Did they take you to meet Ryan Gosling after you got all the strangers? No. No.

No audition required, I think, for this one. Fair to say. No, straight offer. Yeah. Straight offer. of the operative word. We should talk about this movie that I wouldn't say

it's the laugh riot of the year because we're laughing a lot, but it's a beautiful piece of work, guys. All of us strangers. You guys are going to see it very soon, December 22nd. These are two of the four key components. Paul Meskell can't be with us.

Jamie Bell, amazing. Let's start with you, Andrew. This is from Andrew Hayg, a great writer-director. Very personal story, as I understand it, for him. How is this presenting? to you? Do you get a script? Does Andrew ring you up and say what you're getting?

Yeah, I was filming something out of way and I was actually, to be honest, I was working really hard in this real job during COVID and it had been delayed for ages. So it was a tough job and I wasn't particularly inclined to go into another job so soon after it, but I got this

absolutely extraordinary, really unusual script from Andrew Hake who I've long admired. So immediately you get excited because those opportunities don't necessarily come around a lot and I was just totally blown away by the script this isn't I genuinely not like PR speak it was so I felt just so seen by it and the basic premise of the movie is this kind of lonely man who is living in a kind of purgatory in his kind

of comfort zone and stuck in life and he in some sort of metaphysical way conjures up his parents who have been killed in a car accident 30 years ago played by Jamie Bell and I'm a cheerful way and she couldn't be here sadly but we have Billy Elliot I'm a genius yeah absolutely

so anyway that's the sort of beautiful premise of the film and then there's a kind of a dual storyline where he's falling in love with Paul Mescomb very difficult as we all are as we all are

as everybody what he is currently in the world. Claire, I think you once told me I don't do joyful, I do misery. Wow, aren't I really cheery company? I don't do joy. That's why you're always welcome back. This is not, I wouldn't say this is misery,

but it's an intense film filled with some really deep, heartfelt emotion. What did you connect with in the story? The beauty of this is like when you all see it, you're going to connect with it for so many different reasons. everyone has a different point of connection. What was yours, you think? I think I had a bereavement in my family

when I was younger, and I saw the implications of what that does to a group of people and to children. And what I felt about this film was there was some sort of, what's the word, not vindication. Help me out here. like some sort of like completing

catharsis or something. Yeah, catharsis or like completing the circle of that story in the sense that when a parent dies and leaves a child there are two people who are bereft by that and I know that one of them leaves

you know the mortal realm and the other one stays but the parent is denied the right of seeing their child grow up and and I'm a parent and the thought that I can't even engage with the concept. But there's something I think that's so heartbreaking about that.

And what I loved about this film was that it gave them all of them the opportunity to be with each other again first and foremost, but also get to know each other. And also the other really strong element that I felt was

how brave it is to fall in love. And that's what the film... I feel like the film gives you so much courage as an audience member to see what falling in love can be, not just romantic, da-da-da-da-da, you're going to make you into some sort of version of a person in my head to make this happen, like real, real, intimate, beautiful love. And that comes from sorting out what's happened when you were a kid a lot of the time, I think.

I think another thing that I think a lot of people are going to really respond to is, you know, often in film we see when someone is coming out to their parents, there's like this, like, extreme. They reject them, they accept them wholly. When the reality, the real world we live in is, there's a lot of good. gray area. Absolutely. That's such a spot-on thing to say. It's so full of nuance. It's really important to say because the film has got this wonderful reputation now as sort of being you know, and you know we have to mention the word death a lot.

But it's so moving and it's so cathartic and it's emotional but it's really genuinely uplifting. I suppose it's just I don't want people to be like oh God I don't want to see that miserable but it's really not. I don't think it's beautiful. It's really beautiful and it's just this idea of what you, this sort of imaginative idea and there's loads of different tones in it. It's kind of, it's so tender and compassionate,

and it's kind of sexy in places, and it's, so it's just got all those things. But exactly as you say, Josh, they're like, it's, I think sometimes in coming out stories, it is about all out rejection or full embraced acceptance. And I think for a lot of queer people, it's somewhere in between. It's a gray area, as you say.

And that's what a lot of people deal with. the sort of accidental cruelty of families that actually your parents or your children can say something absolutely got punching to us, but they still love us. That's a truth for so many of us. And it's so unjudgmental, the film, I think. Do you know what I mean? So that's what's so beautiful about it. So don't be frightened. Go in with an open heart and just let it wash over you. What would a film like this have meant to you as a young man, you think? I mean, it would have, I would have, I would imagined, really.

Oh, God, this gets me to really. Listen, he's very, yeah, anyway. He gets very emotional about the film, which is really beautiful, but he really does. Look, oh, I can't take it. Well, because the idea of a film like this existing

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it was just not something I ever dreamed. I would get to watch a little lown be at the center of it and to put so much of my own experience, into my own self into this and for that to be seen by people and for it to be so raw and tender and for that to be of use to people and to move people is so miraculous to me that it does it does get to me every time because it's the purpose of art that's what the purpose of it is um So a couple of things to know, the audience probably doesn't know this,

you were shooting in essentially the childhood home of the writer-director, Andrew Haig. Crazy. He moved out of when he was nine. Yeah. We went to film as in his actual childhood home. Yeah. And for you Claire playing Adam's mom in this, like are you playing Andrew's mom, Adam's mom, my mom, your mom?

Oh, the mom. I mean... I think I definitely wasn't Andrew Hage's mum. I was a version of a woman of a certain generation which she belongs to, which I think, you know, in Britain I suppose as well, you know, the war and that period of time looms pretty large over certain generations and how they were brought up in the UK and the significance of that and at what point you were born after it and therefore what your values and morals tended to be,

which is very in line with societal norms. And so I was definitely playing that. But she was definitely, I mean, myself and Jamie had to base the characters in reality, although we are no longer alive, in order to have, you know, a knowledge of what their relationship would have been like and what their opinions would have been.

And she very much, you know, there was a brief period of time where I was going to be Irish, and that ended very quickly when we realised we didn't have enough prep time to make me sound, Irish or any semblance of what

you know my version of Irish is very different to actually how people speak in Ireland it's how my granddad speaks who hasn't lived in Ireland for 70 years so it wasn't current anyway but she so she very much was based in that you know what I know from my family

immigrant Irish family coming to London living in a particular part of London where there would have been lots of Irish people in the community, very connected to Catholicism and all of those things. So she became very much all of my aunts.

Not that, you know, they have slightly more progressive, obviously, but yeah, but they were always, yeah, she's every mum in a way, every mum of a son. And the other component of this, I mean, there's the Jamie Bell component, another remarkable performance

as always, and Paul, I mean, the relationship between your character and Paul Meskell is fantastic and you guys have probably already heard the word that keeps coming up is intimate right there's such an intimacy to every facet of the film you saw it in that clip but the scenes between you and Paul have this sensuality this intimacy this rawness this realness this reality I mean I know you're asked this so hot but I guess just like what is the secret sauce for you of creating intimacy intimacy on set how does that happen in your experience and in this particular experience yeah it's just

strange thing, chemistry, isn't it? Because I don't think you necessarily need to get on particularly well with the person to create chemistry. I've seen it on set where people who don't necessarily connect with you have amazing chemistry. But for me, the process is so important, and I love Paul very much, and we're

required to really be very intimate with each other, not just the sexual stuff, but real sort of tenderness between us. But I think we didn't over talk about it. We wanted there to be a sort of free. We knew each other, you know, as I say, we knew each other kind of well, but certainly not as well as we know each other now. So to kind of keep that frees on alive,

it's like when you're on a date with somebody, the chemistry is about being hyper-aware of everything that they do. It's listening. It's sort of the same as acting. You know, you have to just be aware. You're rather than I planned it this way. that's kind of the worst kind of acting like we're going to do it this way and it never changes and it's immovable so I think there's something about that and he's just such a skillful actor and actually the thing because we have loads of chemistry obviously is people Paul and I but that's very different to the kind of chemistry that we have you know I feel one of the great joys in my life is the emancipation from sort of sexual shame coming from Catholic Garden like Claire was talking about so I don't feel that sort of shame you

You know, my character is very lonely and probably a little bit negative about sex and mercifully, I don't feel that anymore. And so you have to create something, you have to sort of unlearn the things and go back to a place where you're in a much more fearful place. More chemistry with Paul or Phoebe Waller, Bridge. That's not a decent.

That's not a kind. I said to you were not the best. I rolled him into a state of thinking I was a nice guy. And I just... And you know, It's the holiday season. We all leave.

I think that was really, really, really awful. Let's take a look at a photo from last Halloween of our buddy, Paul Meskell, and who you dress does. Let's take a look. Oh, look. That's such a good costume. That's so good.

Look at his little mullet. Look at that guinea pig. How would you assess his hot priests? Second. How would you assess his rendition? of hot priests compared to yours. He looks quite angry. He just looks like angry.

It's hot. Anger's hot. Hot enough, not quite. Andrew Scott hot, but it's all right. I don't think that's true. What is, we can, yeah, okay, we took it off. I don't want to embarrass you the entire time. What is the sexiest, most romantic film of all time?

You okay? You okay? I'm not okay. You can't just... I mean, again, I said you were kind. Okay, we need to run up to that. Let's talk about this. I don't feel you can have sexy and romantic in the same bracket. Go either way, which one? You can. This is very serious to me, obviously. I'm sorry I'm reacting ever so slightly, but... What do you mean? It can't be like in the same movie. Well, no, it can be, but then it's your...

Yeah, the question is different. It's very... It's very... It was two questions. It wasn't one. It was a bad question. I see what you're saying. Bad question. It confuses your guests. I think you've been hanging up on you now.

Don't you feel the tables are turned? This never happens. What's your sexiest momentic failed, Josh? Yeah, we'll ask the question. Happy holidays, everybody. Sexy or romantic? Choose one. What jumps to mind? I mean, nothing, but the word panic.

Andrew, anything? I'll take over for a second because... Please. No. We're losing him! We're losing again. And then he died. What a great story, though.

I filmed that I really adore. What did you say? It gave to me then. Oh, did you? Keep talking. No, go. Unfaithful. Oh, yeah, huh?

It's not so much romantic. That's the sexy time one, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's on a train. She's on the train thinking about it. She's having an affairs, too. Yeah.

Yeah. It's in a hallway. Yeah, so. The film that I think is really beautiful, and I was like, wow, God, this is a really catharty experience for me is call me by your name. Because, do you know what, I love that film?

I feel like love and sex manifests itself in so many different ways. And I was looking at the sort of the physical difference between those two characters. And at the beginning, I was like, is this a bit dodgy? What's going on here? But I like, I think it's really important

that we see just different types of love represented on the screen. that love just doesn't happen for like you know people between the ages of 27 and 32 who are straight and I mean you know like there's so many extraordinary stories and people are attracted to loads of different things and I loved I thought it was a very sexual sensual film

because they were so different and it was a little bit like unusual to look at and I think that's really important to sort of to see that it was also incredibly romantic and it had a sort of familial there's a kind of connection in some small way with our film I think a wee bit I see that

Michael Stilbarg's monologue towards the end wrecks me every time unbelievable I thought you were going to go rom-com because your go-to rom-com is you said an all so sexy I don't want to repeat the question back to you doesn't need some confrontational but that is what you said

don't clear I'm with you I know you are darling if you're going to put me on the spot then you have to be why would she answer that question Josh why would I but also not to contradict what Andrew just said about only not showing just people falling in love between

27 and 32 and they're straight but normal people also oh yeah was like there is a look that he gave her at a certain point that I was like that's it I don't know how he did that but he just there was this amazing look and I was like that's what it is when you

when that's happening to you yeah it's really properly into it sexing and the falling in love Can I give you my ulterior mode of what I was trying to point us towards? I think. Yeah, I suppose. Wow! Guys!

Please continue. Claire's favorite rom-com is when Harry met Sally. Oh, yeah. I thought it would be fun to hear you guys do it when Harry met Sally's scene together. Which parts do we play? That's up to you. That's up to you. That's up to you. You can switch.

Can I play the waitress? I feel sweet. Me? The waitress. Oh, no, she's not the waitress. The old lady who says. Oh, I'm that part. That's me, obviously. Oh, the best part.

Thanks, Judge. I'm at the other table. The punchline. Who wants to be who? I don't know. It's absolutely terrifying. This is so... It's a cold read.

It's a cold read. It's a cold read. It's a cold read. Come on, we'll do it. You can't find out. You can choose who wants to be who. Oh my god, it's really long. Oh my God, I know.

I know this. I mean, I know everything, but I'm about it. I'll play Harry because I'll break the habit of a lifetime. Okay, but I'm not doing, okay. You can go subtle. You can go subtle. It's absolutely extraordinary that you've asked us to say. No one has warned us about this.

Andrew, why don't you take one from the team? You play Sally for her. Can you play Sally? Can you play Sally? I think you should play Sally. Do you want to do this? You don't have to, Claire. It's okay. Okay, are we going to do it?

Yeah, I guess so. I really want to be Meg Ryan. Go on. What do you do with these women? You just get up and get out of bed and leave. Sure. Well, explain to me how you do it. What do you say?

You say you have an early meeting or you're any haircut or squash game. You don't play squash? Well, they don't know that. They just met me. That's disgusting. I know. I feel terrible. You know, I'm so glad I never.

got involved with you. I'm a much better actor than this guys, I promise. Yeah, exactly. I just ended up being some woman you had to get, oh, this is the best bit, because I never knew what and ions were as a child. Andirons, right, yeah. Sorry, I should be just doing the scene. I'd just be one of the, end up

being one of those, some woman you had to get up out of bed and leave at 3 o'clock in the morning and clean your and irons, and you don't even have a fireplace. Not that I would notice. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, it's so upset. This is not about you. I'm not pretending to be the characters. Crystal. Oh shit. No, but like, I'm just like...

No, I know. Luke, it's fine. Sorry. This is why we're so good at auditioning. Yes, it is. You are a human affront to all women and I am a woman. Yeah, I don't feel great about this. Thank you. Now I'm beginning to relate to this character. But I don't hear anyone complaining.

Of course not. You're out the door too fast. I don't even have an okay time. How do you know? What do I mean? How do I know? I know. Because they... Yeah, because they... And how do you? And how do you know that they really... They're Sally doing it in the film, sorry.

They really, what are you saying? Orgasms, that's what he said? Sorry, this is so disappointing for you. What are, what are you saying that they fake orgasm? It's possible. Get out of here. Why? Most women at one time or another have faked it.

Well, they haven't liked it with me. How do you know? Just because I know. Oh, right, that's right. She finishes eating and she wipes her hand. I forgot you're a man. What's that supposed to mean? Nothing, it's just that all men are sure

it's never happened to them and that most women at one time or other have done it, so you do the math. Well, you don't think that I could tell the difference? No. Oh, the love of God. So mean. This is, I mean, guys, I have, I can't do.

She can't do, she can't do. I want to work again. Do the worst version possible, just a banal. Get out of you, get out of you. Oh, ooh, ooh, ooh. What is what you have to be next. Are you, are you okay? Oh, oh God.

Just, can we just have a moment of respect here for Meg Ryan that this is probably what she had. as a script. Madness. Which is this. Ooh, oh God. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, yeah.

Right there. Oh. Oh. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Hang on.

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Tell a fleabeg fan from a Sherlock fan coming at you down. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? What's the dead giveaway? Well, Sherlock is not, you know, today nor yesterday, so the fans are a little older. It's sort of maybe a little bit of,

Actually, because Fleabag was so people were just so filthy and feral about it that they really were and the things that I read on the internet and they're actually

in person they're always to make up for whatever gross thing they probably said on the internet they're always like, very much enjoy your work but you can see some dirty little undercurrent and then Sherlock people are just I suppose more colorful

I love fan do you know can I say something about fandom in because people always when you're in a big fan show you probably have a season of the witch yes I do thank you for mentioning witch heads make yourselves known here we are But I do think about fandom Because people say, oh look, do you have freaky fans that come up to you? And I always really resent that Because in sport, we dress up, wear your team's colours,

everybody goes absolutely mental. But if somebody is a fan of a TV show, people are like, oh, they must be really, really freaky. And it's always because those people are just a little bit more vulnerable or a little bit more, I don't know, there's something, I don't know, a little bit more innocent about those people. I feel sort of a little bit like bullying sometimes.

Not saying that that's what the question was suggesting at all, but I do feel that strongly about fans. I think to be a fan of something, it's like, I hate cool things. I hate people being cool. It's such a waste of time. So be passionate, so go on the colorful people. And the filthy feral people.

Do you think you share similar taste? and film TV, do you, have you swapped TV shows that you both talk about? Like, what do you guys, are you... Not really? We mainly talk about thoughts and feelings, and... Oh, like real.

Like me. Spiritual. I'll try. Now we'll talk endlessly about you. Yeah, I'm sure. Claire's last appearance on the podcast. Holidays. We've been talking about the holidays. Any holiday traditions in either of your families? what do you associate with the holidays?

All good, I mean, no, not all, no, not all good things. I think it's changed since I've had a child. Now I'm like, I'm feral and filthy about Christmas. I'm like, upset. Are you really? Wow. No. Feral and filthy. No, no, I didn't mean to say that.

I mean, passionate, that's what I meant. Passionate, yeah. Passionate in a non-anyway. I love it. And so much so that I go overboard probably every time. get a new ornament every year I choose one my daughter chooses one I'm like skating

I make mince pies So is your Christmas tree up already? Yes, already up Turn the heating off before I left England to make sure that it didn't cook You didn't know like that Oh yeah, that's like you. But you won't because you've been working very hard

Yes You won't have your Christmas tree Poor little Andrew Poor little Andrew Tiny little Tim Yeah We do any other Do you want to mention

Before we go to our special virtual guest Okay so we have a friend of the podcast, an acquaintance I believe of both of yours, the amazing Jamie Dornan has sent in a holiday recipe that he does every year and he wanted to share it with all the happy second views listeners and viewers and you guys. Shall we take a look? All right. Merry Christmas.

I bought this out just to make this video and it goes like this, like this, this is class. Hello, Josh, hello, Andrew, hello Claire. I hope you're all well. Merry Christmas. I wanted to come on to give you my recipe for how I make my roast potatoes on every Sunday. Could we do a roast every Sunday in the Dornham household pretty much? Or Christmas Day, if that's the only time the year you make roast potatoes, which is shameful if that's the case. Maris paper potatoes if you get them. Pre-hate the oven to 180. degrees Celsius. I don't know what that is in Fahrenheit. I don't care what that is in Fahrenheit. Um, 180, uh, get a pan going with some goose fat, duck fat and get that going in the oven. Uh, power boil potatoes for longer than it ever tells you to do online, for longer than any culinary expert tells you to do, listen to me. They say five minutes. I say

eight overly do them let let lose a few guys like let them crumble a bit you end up you know with this unbelievable crunchiness at the bottom that uh soaks up all the the the fat um obviously power boiling for eight minutes uh let them give it a proper shake that's me and my happiest i am i think ever when i've got like the tea towel over the the pan shaking the the potatoes. Release all the steam, let them fully steam. You'll see you've lost a few guys at the bottom. Do not panic. It's okay. Get the oil, the fat which is now become oil, obviously under the heat, out of the oven. Put the potatoes in. Make sure they're properly coated in the oil. Put them back in the oven at 180. Set a timer for every 20 minutes and make sure every 20 minutes you take them

and toss them and turn them back in the oil and keep them back. lively and after about 52 minutes i'd say at 180 um whack up the oven to 200 um i sometimes give the potatoes a little bit of a squeeze here still this from jimmie oliver give the potatoes a wee bit of a squeeze here to crack them and then turn it up and maybe to 200 maybe even 210 uh for the final 10 minutes and this makes them even crispier and super soft in the middle um they are delicious uh which I trust that you will. You might not hate this advice at all. Hope all of you will.

Have a Merry Christmas. Lots of love. Lest you thought the When Harry Met Sally moment was the strangest moment of the night. Jamie Dornan showed you up. Well, kept going, didn't he? That man likes his potatoes.

You're welcome, everybody. We have, I should mention, we have in the aisles two microphones, so if you guys want to start lining up with a couple questions for these guys, feel free. They can't be worse than mine. Let's be real. I feel bad now. I don't feel bad.

Do you not feel bad? Are we okay, do you just try and manipulate me to feel bad for you? No, I feel guilty now. Why do you feel guilty? Because I put you on the spot. Yeah, you did. What have we talked about? But you delivered.

You delivered. You were great. Anyway. Oh my God, it's so big. Before we go to some questions, the Happy Say I Confused Profoundly Random Questionaire. What do you guys collect? Anything either of you guys collect? Broken hearts.

You don't have to... Christmas ornaments, obviously. Apparently. So many of them. Wallpaper on your phone. Oh, my child. Oh, this makes me so sad. Look at like a generic.

What? the thing that the phone gives you. It's so sad, isn't it? I don't know that. It's just not because you're not because of the technology. You don't like your phone. No, I don't really, exactly. I don't invest in it. Sorry. Yeah, no, it's okay. Last actor you were mistaken for,

either of you. Oh, Emily Blunt, I think. But by someone who'd worked with her. Yeah. Maybe. They were like, Emily. Emily, I presume they meant Emily or it could just be any old Emily

because that happens to lots of sure like no no because I worked in the and I was like no no but thank you do you get anybody?

I get Mark Ruffalo sometimes which is such a compliment yeah yeah very nice but a lovely man too so handsome you guys are too sweet for this

but what's the most common complaint from you on a set what gets under your skin on a set oh you got something She's got something. I mean, it's mainly the schedule. Yeah. As in just that it exists.

I just some, one of those, they call us a moan of actors. That's a collective noun for actors. Because, no, sooner do we get a job, but we start moaning about the job. It's a sport, and we're very good at it. And, yeah, so mainly you get the schedule, and then you go, look at what days you have off

of the job that you want. And then moan about. How do you do this? How can I get out of it? Yeah, yeah. you want to do it, you just don't want to do it all the time. Yeah, absolutely. And then you look at what time you're going to start and I'm going to finish. And then I relentlessly

talk about what time I'm starting and finishing for the whole job. And everyone's like, yeah, because it's the job. And I'm like, yeah, but I have to get this out. Anyway, that's what I, anyway, that's just the, just, yeah. I'm trying to think the thing, because you have to be checked constantly, and the continuity, obviously,

that they have to. So sometimes I find it hard when people come up and they're like, And they're sort of telling you something about, and they're doing it under the breath. And they're just going to move this because it's just not... And you're like, so sometimes you're like, how could it move? It's not exactly Marie Antoinette up here. But, I mean, they're just doing their job.

But, like, it's silent. You do it's silent. It's just when you've been on a job for seven months or something, and you're like... But, like, it's a cool job. You know, we don't really have a job. What's the worst note a director has ever given you? Oh, I don't mind. Oh, come on.

acting, darling. Oh, fuck, yeah. Who the fuck? Who said that? First job I ever did on TV, which was being human. The pilot. With Russell, with Russell, yeah. And I didn't know, we were rehearsed,

I didn't know what we were doing, and he shouted it at me. Oh, that's horrible. He doesn't really work anymore. But you fucking do. But it was a very, it's taken me a long time to accept that it actually was a very unkind to do to a 23-year-old on their first job ever. Horrible.

Instead of taking them under your wing and helping them, just shouting at them in front of everyone. Sometimes, like, not very nice directors, need someone to bully. Yes, and I was that. Absolutely, that's so true. And that felt really bad.

Yeah, yeah. What was the most about you living? It's when they don't really understand emotion where they, it's happened to a few actors that I know actually, where they say, can you cry, but can I just come out of one eye? Yeah. You think, what's, I mean, you don't deserve to be a human. You don't understand how that works.

Single tier. Just a single one, do you mind? Some people can't do that, though. Some people can't do that. Some people really can do that, and they let us down. Are you easy criers, or can you go there pretty quickly on a set? Like, how hard is that? There's a wonderful crier.

I can't cry. Like, I once did a photo shoot where they were like, Okay, so you're an actor, so, okay, start crying. And I was like, about what? Yeah. And they were like, no, and I can't, I can't, you do a thing at drama school could emotional recall where basically you're supposed to remember something sad

and make that memory and you're supposed to bottle it up and bottle it up and bottle up, so it's one word and that one word can make you go like that. But I'm not that, I'm not very, I can only do it if I believe the situation that I'm in. I can't, and if the character's not feeling it, I'm not, like it's really difficult for me. It's like some sort of weird, like,

I've put myself in a completely distant situation I'm not myself then but only if it happens yeah it's like I don't think you should be forced to cry I feel about self-conscious because I cry a lot of this film this film is but I think it's like we were saying earlier I think the attempt to not cry is always much more moving

because I don't think when we start crying in front of our friends or our family we're always like sorry sorry you know we we apologize for it or if you shout you don't do it sort of in a sustained way so I always think that's a bit more It's also the famous thing of people playing drunk, right? Right.

Because we're trying not to betray them. Exactly, trying to be as sober as you can. We got a bunch of questions. Let's start over here, please. Introduce yourself and what's your question? Can we hear you? Should I just shout? There we go.

Okay, hi. Hello. Question for either or both of you. When you're preparing for a role, how much do you rely on your own personal experience, versus research versus imagination. We sort of tip for a weep in on this, don't we? You like to research.

I like to research, but only because I think in a previous life, I think I should have done a history at school when I never did history. I don't do it because I just like finding stuff out. It doesn't become an emotional thing for me. Unless it's like you were doing something set in a prison, I would read up about prisons. Just so I knew what a prison was like.

Yeah. It's not been in one yet. But yeah, I don't know. It's a combination of all of those things, I think. I don't respond to a script unless it's something in me that connects to it. So it won't be that I'm like, oh, that reminds me of that memory of what happened that day.

It'll be some emotional thing that I've been through or experience that makes me connect to it. And so that sort of bleeds into it. But it's always character-based me. It's always, it's sort of, It's sort of empathy, really, I think, probably is what the thing is. And having empathy for that story and then putting yourself in that story, which could be quite painful.

What about you, Andrew? I think very similar. I think you have to, the more I act, the more I sort of feel like it's not about pretending to be somebody else, but finding that person within yourself. And who would I be if I was a prince or a villain or, you know, to use? Because that way it can be just, that way it has absolutely your own signature in it. and you're not kind of copying somebody else. And so often for me it's about saying lines

that you think, oh my God, I love that line. I love that line. I want to say that because I hate TV speak. I hate when you have to say things like, I knew I'd find you here. How did you know? How did you know that? It's just something I need to do first.

My least favorite one, and I know that a lot of people are going to really like it, and I've said this before, and it's going to make people hate me, but it's hey you. Hey, you. Hey, you. I know what to mean.

If someone said, hey, you, to me, I'd be like, yes. Hey, yes, you. My name is Claire. Continue. I'd be like, hey, you. Hey, you. I quite like it. Hey, you.

Sorry, I really dislike it, everyone. I'm sorry, I'm a terrible friend. Let's go over here, please. Hi, my name is Aaron. First of all, Andrew, congratulations on the Golden Globe nominee. Oh, thank you. Yay! We're all very proud.

You guys have both done theater as well as film and TV, Hamlet, and the one that shall not be named. When it comes to preparation, what is the difference between a movie like this and doing live theater? well I feel like it's in the in the in the theater it's a little bit more pure I love the idea that adults come in in the dark and they go tell us tell us a story it's such a childish thing to do and the actor has got so much more power in the theater because you're starting from the beginning of the story to write to the end and you're in control if the audience are starting to get a little bit coffee or a little bit bored you're like okay I feel like we need to pick the pace up here you've got a real set so

live and it's so thrilling and I think on a set I think one of the main things that people are surprised about when they come and visit a set is how actually little you film on a day there's a huge amount of waiting around so your imagination is constantly interrupted so you're going in the scene we were lucky in this film because we have quite a lot of quite simple scenes where it was just me and Claire in the kitchen for example so there wasn't a huge amount of set-ups but a lot of the time they're setting up lighting if it's a huge big epic thing and so it's a little bit stopped starry, right? And sometimes for me, that's the thing that kind of interrupts

your imagination. So that's why I think actors love the live, the live experience, because it's just a little bit more pure, right? It's definitely pure, and it's also a collaborative process with the audience. Like you just said about, like you feel when they're not paying attention or they're getting a bit bored or whatever, everyone's invested in it. And so everyone, it's It's both happening at the same time, and you can see or feel what you're doing is having an effect or not. And yeah, I found it strange.

I would encourage anyone if there are any actors in the room. Like, film acting is, you know, extraordinary, and there's something amazing about it. But being on stage and being in, it's where it came from. It's where acting basically came from. So, you know, get in it and get involved. And it's terrifying, but there's something so unbelievably exhilarating

and, yeah, it gives you so much, I think. Thank you. Thank you. Any New York theater plans on the horizon for either of you? Say again. New York theater plans on the horizon for either of you? I couldn't possibly comment. Have you ever done stage work here?

Yeah, I did a play here with Julian Moore and Bill Nye, but it was a long time ago. But so I'd love to come back. I really would. Definitely. That's going to happen. I hope it does We all do

Let's make that happen Okay Yes please Well Josh Sort of just stole my question Oh thank you John Thanks John I am messing

Happy Christmas You are I'm not Say this Josh What is wrong with you Josh Specifically Andrew I was wondering If you have any plans

To bring Vanya To Broadway Yeah That's obviously He's gonna be coy about I would love to bring it here Yeah Look, I'm not going to lie, I really would love to bring it here.

It's a huge big, for anyone who doesn't know, I just played a version of Vanya in, Uncle Vanya, but I played all the parts in Vanya, a one-man version of it. It's amazing, I saw it. It's like really, really, really, really. We really need to see that, so. But you know what? It's on NT Live on the 30th of January. Yeah, can I plug it here? It's actually going to be here at Symphony Space

March 14th. You can watch Panya and just got to do it. So, the Symphony Space website. Yeah, but I do, I really do hope. I really do hope I can. Okay, me too. Thank you. Thanks, Emily. Lost another listener to happy, say I confused.

Over here. Hi, my name is Victoria. I'm actually from Russia and Hedderat. But this question is from my daughter. Her name is Elizabeth, and she's a huge fan of Andrew. So her question is, which one of your characters you wish you were more like? I wish I was more light. I shouldn't say Ripley.

I know you're playing you just played Ripley. Don't go with that. Yeah. I'd like to be a bit more murderous. I suppose it's like the villains, isn't it? Like you want to play, you want to, first of all, say hi to Elizabeth, your daughter. Thank you. But I would say probably Moriarty, yeah, probably because he's having a great time.

Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Just to know, we only have time for a couple more, so let's go back over here. Hello, I was wondering what your favorite and or least favorite words are. What a great question. Thank you. My favorite is surrender.

You just picked that in here. Thought about it recently. Surrender, why? I think it's great. Oh, okay. I mean... I'm not attacking you. No, but don't you think it's just like a great word?

Surrender, yeah. There's something sort of like, oh, anyway, I love that. Yeah. What do you love? Words that I love. I was thinking of a word that I don't like saying. I don't like the word Wednesday. Wednesday. Yeah.

Wednesday. I struggle with banana just because I never can spell it. and I know I'm like where's the there's a double end there's three A's not in a row but yeah yeah but there's three A's in it

but I always am like Banana Banana banana banana banana That's a vocal warm-up exercise We're actors Banana banana banana banana Anyway There was a terrible

That was a terrible answer It might be happy Thank you You're so disappointed So disappointed So sorry Okay, okay. Yeah, I had your chance.

Please, yeah. Hi, this is a question for Andrew, but Claire, you can answer too if you want. Oh, I need them to it. It's okay. It's okay. Andrew, this one's for you. When I need like a jolt of confidence,

I re-watch your letters live, the letter to Solow it. If you haven't seen it, you definitely should. Is there a piece of art, book, movie, etc., that you return to for a jolt of inspiration or just because you like to revisit it? It's probably music in some way. Music is so immediate, isn't it? Like it just, it gives you something.

But I can't think of anything sort of specific. It sort of depends on the mood, but it's something like if you, I don't know you feel that like sometimes when you're sad you want to be sad you don't want to be play cheerful music too you just want to go I'm gonna sort of bathe in this and or you know before like actually when we were just doing Vanya the stage manager used to be like oh that's what you're listening to because I was to big Broadway numbers because I found the idea I find the idea of going on stage so wonderful and that

sort of bigness of Broadway even though it has nothing to do with the sort of tone of Vanya I just like the idea of like oh my god that sort of thing that I looked at, the idea of sort of theatricality I always, always love. So I would say, I would say it's like Broadway musical. No, no, it's not. But music definitely is where I would go to for something first. What about you, Claire? That was your question.

Thank you. Hello, my name is Madeline, and I'm also going to be asking about Vanya, but kind of live theater in general. I am studying to be an actor for the stage, and I wanted to know how you prepared to play every character, as they're so different. And then to both of you, just how do you go about starting to prepare to play your character? How do you study them?

How do you connect with them? Well, one of the things that I think is really important to remember, it's something I say so much, but I really believe it to be true, which is that you play a part. You have to be playful. That's what I think it's, that's what the audience wants. And I think one of the things that I learned really early on is that if you make a mistake on stage, the audience doesn't go, oh my god, I can't believe I paid 300 quid for this.

When somebody dries or loses their line or something weird happens on the stage, the audience suddenly goes, oh my god, we're in a, we're in a, this is live, this is, there becomes so much more aware of the, um, the kind of audacity and the, um, the indusity and the, the of theatre. So if you make a mistake, it doesn't fucking matter. Do you know what I mean? And just to remember that it's not so serious, even if it's a serious, serious thing. Because I think when people, for example, when you get so terrified that you're going to forget a line or something, I do think it makes the audience aware that, oh my God, that means they've learned all the other lines rather than that they've forgotten one of them. And I think that's sometimes good to remind.

I love theatre that interrupts the kind of formality of the convention of theatre. Yeah, I mean, I think the thing weird is that what works for one actor doesn't work for another one. When I went to drama school, we did animal studies, which for me is an absolute no-no. I spent like three weeks as a camel and I... Did you choose it? No, they chose it for you. So then you'll spend the whole time going, I wonder why they gave me camels. I know exactly why they...

Two humphs are, one lump or two. I was the single hump. The Dramadus or something. Anyway, I know a lot about camels. That doesn't work for me, but I watched Margot Robbie's actors-on-actors thing, and she loves Animal Studies, and I was like, good for you, Margo. Like, it just works different ways for different people.

So I think the biggest mistake you can make is try to be like anybody else and to think there's one particular way of doing it. The only thing I would say is, with acting, I think, like Andrew said, is that don't try and run away from yourself in the process. Go deeper into what makes you a human being, and that will help you understand other human beings. And the more you do it, the better you get out, hopefully understanding them. Good luck with it, you know. Yes, good luck.

Thank you so much. It's pretty great. Have fun. We have time for just one more over here. The last question. It better be good. Hi. I'm Lex, Claire, I'm a huge fan, women talking was like a gut punch, really got me, and Andrew Fleabag rewrote my DNA.

I watched Sea Wall like a hundred times over when it came out. Anyway, my question is, if you could gender bend any famous theater or musical theater role, what would you love to play? If you could gender bend. Switch the gender, I guess, a different gendered role. Yeah. Wow. I'm really bad on the spot.

I'm going to have to think about this. It's really interesting. Isn't it? Because it's so interesting about the playing field, which just isn't level. So it's hard to, you know, but I do sometimes think if you could, I remember there was this gorgeous story

when it's slightly off the beaten track, but I remember when Phoebe was talking to different direct for Fleabag and she was having meetings with lots of kind of young female directors and eventually Harry Bradbeer who eventually directed the show really brilliantly came in and he's a man in his you know late middle age kind of middle class man and he said well of course I am fleabag and she and she was so arrested by that and so like wow And, you know, of course our representation and everything is incredibly important, but I sometimes get scared of the idea that we can only empathize

with people that have our own experience. So I'd love the idea that everybody could sort of give it a go a little bit, but the playing field does have to be level. And until it is level, then more people are getting opportunities than the others. And so it's a tricky one, isn't it? Yeah, I struggle to think of any parts. But you could... I mean, yeah, that's the thing, there's not that many, unfortunately.

There are so wonderful female parts in theatre, but I don't know. For me, it would definitely be some sort of singing, dancing, mad, like, stowaway. What would that be in? Oh, like, what's that one on a boat? A musical. Yeah. the one on the boat, guys. You know what I'm talking about. Anything goes?

We are going to wait all night. I don't know. Anyway, I'd like to be like a sailor on a boat. Right. A boy camel? You could be a... I'm never being a camel. That's off the list. We're wrapping up this amazing night. I have a couple thank you. First, thank you to this audience for coming out here. Yay!

That's amazing. A couple of reminders. This movie, as you can tell, is... is just a sublime piece of work. All of us strangers, the performances are extraordinary. You will go on a journey. It's a fantastic piece of work you should feel very proud of.

Please check it out. This is terrible. What's that? You will go on a journey. I'm joking, I'm joking. You will go on a dark journey. No, it is life of Herbing. Don't worry, you can handle it.

It's fantastic though. I do also want to mention that Vanya, rather, March 14th, you can watch the live version. It's amazing. Amazing. Good. So we can check it out. That's on the Symphony Space website.

Look up all their amazing events in 2024. They're going to host so many great events. Hopefully I'll be back here hosting some happy, say I confused as well. I also just want to mention Andrew Scott, thank you for being on the podcast for the first time. Yay. Thank you. It was so fun. Thank you.

It was so lovely. This might be Claire Foy's last time, but she is now a five-time happy, sad. Oh, God, that's so cool. Oh, my God! Yeah. I've got... Oh, I've got a cat! Please give it up one more time for Andrew Scott and Claire.

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