Happy Sad Confused - Daisy Edgar-Jones & Glen Powell

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:31 I didn't realize there's like a, there's like a wet t-shirt moment in this movie that totally caught me by surprise. No, trust me, it's like, they were like, hey, just so you're aware, like Isaac was like, hey, we're going to have a rain machine in the shot, I think it'll look cool. I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And they're like, hey, I don't think we're going to do the jacket. You're just kind of hold it. You're leaving the house. All right. And then walking out, I'm like, okay, I see what's happened. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:02:07 How's it going? Welcome. I'm Josh Horowitz, and today on Happy Say I Confused were live. But the 92nd Street, why? The cast and Twisters, everybody. Daisy Edgar Jones and Glenn Powell are here. Are you ready? Of course you're ready.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Thank you guys so much for coming out tonight. like me, you remember 1996 very well. The original Twister redefined that disaster movie for its time, and the new one is fantastic. It is actually out in theaters right now. What are you doing here, guys? You should go to a movie theater. After this, go see it, because it is amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It will blow you away, and that is thanks in no small part to the two hugely charismatic, very talented actors that are making their happy, say, confused debut today. I'm so thrilled to welcome to the stage. Daisy Edgar Jones and Gwen Powell, everybody. Give it up. Thank you. There it is.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Look at that. I can't ignore a fellow Longhorn. Sorry. Congratulations. The movie, you did your part. The movie's out. So I don't even know why you're here at this point. Let's be real.
Starting point is 00:03:24 But thank you for being with us today. How does it feel? This has been a long, seemingly fun press tour. Does this recall any other press tour you've ever been on, The Twisters One? It's honestly, it's been so much fun. I don't want it to end. I mean, we're all such good friends. Like, I'm just, I'm sad.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I'm sad that it's coming to an end, but I'm happy the film's coming out. Yeah, we've had a really great run with this one. I mean, you really bond when you're in the middle of Oklahoma and hot cars, you know, no cell service. You know, you really get to know each other. And it's been a really fun ride to kind of, It's felt more like a wonderful victory lap together. Yeah, I've been following your exploits literally around the world, around the country.
Starting point is 00:04:04 A lot of folks have come out to support this movie. Who's had a better time at a premiere? Tom Cruise or your dog Brisket? Who? That's a great question. I think they're hanging out together right now. I, no, I mean, you know what the best part about, I mean, look, Tom showing up to that premiere was wild. Because I'd never gotten a chance to see Twisters with an audience, you know, in IMAX, which is how you guys should see it.
Starting point is 00:04:32 See in the biggest format possible. It's epic. But getting to see it with, you know, a guy who's been such a huge part of my life. And, you know, Top Gun, I learned so much about how to make a big blockbuster movie that still has heart, you know, a really strong heartbeat and great themes and great characters. And that really can, like, move audiences all over the world. And we got a chance to put a lot of that in this movie. movie. And so the fact that I got to have the man, you know, next to me, watching that movie was just so incredible. And in addition to that, he, like, freaking loved it. So he was
Starting point is 00:05:06 going wild. He's subtle, usually, in his reactions. What was that? He's subtle in his reaction, right? He probably barely said anything. Yeah, I think, like, Anthony's shoulder was bruised. He was just, like, hey, man, looking at Daisy, just high-fiving us, and just, it was, it was really, I mean, he really is one of the great torch bears of, like, the theatrical experience. and just such a cheerleader for everybody who's giving it a go, which I love. I don't want to embarrass you, but from what I gather, he was a childhood crush. Yep. I know, and Glenn didn't tell me he was coming until I, well, he didn't tell me.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So I actually fell to the floor, like I was like, what? I couldn't believe it. But yeah, I was very chill when I met him. I was like, my hat's on, whatever. But no, I mean, it was so, I mean, it was amazing to watch it with him. And he really did genuinely love it. And it's so cool. Just he's such a supporter of big movies.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It's amazing. Is this part of, was this whole thing been a long time to get you into the next top gun movie, basically? Yeah, I don't know if I'd be any good at flying planes. I'm scared of flying. I look, I wouldn't recommend driving in a car with Daisy in Oklahoma. The sides of the road are very different. she's not exactly like I would say like that car should not have been on the road
Starting point is 00:06:26 we were used to driving trucks that car was too small for you it's the wrong side of the road for me as well yeah it was terrifying way more dangerous than anything I did in Top Gunn yeah that's the scariest part of the movie is Daisy's driving you're saying we went to a Christmas store yeah we had a day off and I was like we should get some Christmas decorations because we were back in Oklahoma in December
Starting point is 00:06:43 and I nearly I nearly killed us both we're fine we're fine hey it was fine So I mentioned this obviously carries on the tradition of the original Twister, which is an important movie for, again, any of us that love these big spectacle, great classic summer movies. Did you go back to it? Like when you sign on to this, do you go back and see kind of like what the magic was of the original? Yeah, totally. I mean, the original came out before I was born. You didn't have to say just for the record.
Starting point is 00:07:18 But I'd obviously heard of it because it's a classic and, you know, I actually, the reason I kind of came to watching it was I'd heard that the Isaac Chungar director was going to be doing Twisters and he'd been on my list of like, if I could work with him, it would be amazing. I loved Minari, I just thought he was phenomenal and I found it really interesting his kind of his take on Twisters. It's such a big budget blockbuster and he's, you know, such a detailed character-driven indie filmmaker. I was kind of curious to see what drew him to it. And so I watched, I watched Twisters, Twisterer, and absolutely loved it. I mean, it's a classic for a reason, it's so phenomenal, and the characters are so brilliant, and it's just so much fun watching a group of people be enthusiastic about something, and up against real odds as well, real people up against real odds, and so I wrote a letter to Isaac and we met, and I got the job, and then I've since, I think I've watched Twister about 50 times at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Very re-watchable movie. Glenn, you were 25 when the original Twister came out. I mean, I've got enough old man jokes from Daisy. I don't need you. Sorry, I'm sorry. No, I was a big fan of this. I grew up in Austin, Texas. And I did tornado drills as a kid.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And a lot of my family's up in Dallas and north of the tornado alley. And so I felt like tornadoes were sort of the monster in the backyard. It was sort of like a part of my life. But I was telling Daisy, I was like, I felt like, The more I've traveled around the world, the more I realize this movie really, you know, humans against nature. It's a very universal idea and it happens on every corner of the planet and, you know, who we are in the face of storms and who we become, you know, in the wake of them. It's all a very, it's a very human idea.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And the metaphors and the themes are really just rich for exploration. So, you know, for me as a kid, it also just represented like the ultimate summer blockbuster. like it contains like everything you want in a movie like it doesn't choose a lane it's like it's like fun and it's romantic and it's silly and it's exciting and it's thrilling it's like that's what these movies are supposed to be and that's what i really that's why i'm really proud of this movie is that's the reason i got into this thing you know i want to deliver movies that didn't just settle for one attribute it could deliver like an entire range of emotions for audiences everywhere and it does have a real also sense of place this is not a film that was shot in a volume on a green
Starting point is 00:09:43 screen. It's like a lot of practical stuff going on. It's out of the best or worst idea ever probably to shoot a Twister movie in Tornado Alley, I would think, to actually be there, because that's got to be, this was an intense shoot. Beyond Daisy's driving skills, this was intense. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:59 it was, I mean, it was, for me it was so helpful coming from London. I really wanted to, like, you know, my characters from Oklahoma, she grew up chasing, so I really needed to get a sense of the environment, and so living there during storm season was invaluable. I mean, it was crazy, though. I mean, so many days we had to finish filming early because a mesocycline cloud, which they call it, the mothership
Starting point is 00:10:18 had developed and they conform into tornadoes and we all had to leave and we had a whole set blown away to then rebuild it to then blow it away again on camera, which happened quite a lot. But yeah, I mean, it was amazing. You know, we met so many great storm chasers and meteorologists who helped guide us and consult with us and they were in the film too. Everybody you see in the background is, you know, most of them are storm chasers and meteorologists and that was really cool to just really ground it in a sense of, you know, authenticity. Set up a little bit for folks that haven't seen the film, the dynamic between your two characters.
Starting point is 00:10:49 There's a little friction at the start, safe to say. Yep. What kind of guys, Tyler? What would you say? Well, I would say that, yeah, I mean, this is Kate's story, you know, and the entry point is that, I mean, without giving anything away, Kate, you know, experiences something horrific where, you know, she used to be, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:08 this really optimistic, like, chasing storms and weather used to give her like so much joy and then you know she lost a lot of people and that was taken away from her and she's sort of moved to a place where she doesn't have to face that she doesn't have to deal with that and she gets pulled back to Oklahoma back home and sort of is facing the storm that you know the storm of trauma you know and and sort of Tyler's role in that is is to kind of remind her why facing your fears is is the greatest thing you know they can give you the greatest joy it's where you feel the most alive so it's really we compliment each other in a really great way in this movie, and it's a really, it's a beautiful
Starting point is 00:11:45 story. I wouldn't even call it a love story. I would just call it like a life story. It's like two people making each other feel most alive, you know? Have you always had an ear for accents, or does the different American dialects come naturally to you? Do you know, I actually have, I've got a lot of accents in my house growing up, my mom's Irish, my dad's Scottish. I actually, I haven't acted in my own accent in years. I think I'd be deeply embarrassed to do anything in my own accent. I'm not sure what it is anymore. How's your British accent? Oh, it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's coming on. You want to give us a little taste? Oh, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't dare. Is it important to actually understand the science being front and center in a movie like this? I mean, you have a lot of kind of technical jargon to tackle in this.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You have to sell it. Do you have to know the science behind it? I think it's important, you know. There was a lot of scenes where they'd kind of be like, describe what you're seeing and a lot of the time you weren't seeing anything and trying to sort of improvise was quite difficult with sciencey language
Starting point is 00:12:52 so we had people there to help but it was important and we actually went to a weather boot camp and had a little like induction into science and meteorology which I really enjoyed but yeah you do kind of have to have a bit of an understanding so it doesn't
Starting point is 00:13:06 you know where to put the intonations and things Daisy was also like the top student Like, she came to the National Weather Center, like, wearing the National Weather Center polo with the notebook highlighted. Like, she knew what she was doing. And, but that's, like, that's what it really takes, you know, for a role like this to be actually authentic, you know, you have to have a lead that takes that part of the job seriously. I mean, Kate is supposed to be brilliant and have this great instinct. And Daisy was just relentless about learning everything she could, you know, in terms of this world. And she's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:13:40 There was one day we got out of the truck and, you know, Isaac, our filmmaker, you know, said just, you know, improvise what you're seeing in the clouds. I was like, ah, they're, they're fluffy and sort of, you know, I was like, oh, we need to, we need to learn this. That classic meteorology term, fluffy. I did take the liberty of looking up some terms. Meteorial, I can't even say the way, word.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Meteorological. Meteorological terms. Is this a meteorological term? term or a cocktail. Tell me this. You ready? Okay. Okay. You can tag team on this. A firenado. Is that a real thing or a cocktail? A cold? What? I mean, a fire, we create a fire nato. Oh, well, I don't know. You can say, have you had a fire nato drink? No. Okay, we got there, so. Technical? It's a technical term. Yeah, technical term. Is it? It is. We have a fire, yeah. She's so committed to not fooling anything. She's just thirsty.
Starting point is 00:14:44 We're ready for a cocktail after this. Is an Alabama slammer a cocktail or a term of meteorology? A cocktail. A monkey gland. What is a monkey? You can call me that. Cocktail? Yes, you're doing great.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Great. Haboob. Oh. This was the... Yeah, this is a meteorological term. A boob really made me laugh, actually, throughout them. They made me say that on Jeopardy, and I was like, I was like, I was like, I'm going to be memified.
Starting point is 00:15:18 A whale's mouth? Well's mouth. Oh, we're a bearer cage. Oh, well's mouth. You ever hear a wall's mouth? Meteorological. Yeah, let's go meteorological. Yes.
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Starting point is 00:16:42 Okay. Talk to me a little bit about, I mean, Tyler's character. Tyler, then, is this kind of YouTube influencer type. Maybe not everything we see, think at first. But, I mean, how much of that kind of character exists that you found in the real world? that you found in the real world? A lot. I mean, that was like, I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:11 updating it from 96 to 2024, you know, we were talking like in the original, they're dealing with like paper maps, you know, they don't have cell phones. So the level of tech that is around the storm chasers is like pretty impressive. And also, a lot of these folks get so close. They're trying to get the most dramatic footage possible.
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Starting point is 00:18:07 unfortunately. I thought I looked cool and then I watched the film. But no, I mean, yeah, it was so physical and actually so fun because so much of it was practical. And I think when you watch it, you'll see it's the way Isaac's filmed it, it's so immersive. I think especially when you see it on IMAX, it's
Starting point is 00:18:23 kind of as close as you can get to chasing while staying dry. We kind of got wet for you. But yeah, it's amazing. And we had the best special effects people, the best visual effects and, I mean, they were dropping horse trailers on us. People were thrown up on wires. I felt like I was on a theme park ride half the time.
Starting point is 00:18:39 It was amazing. Is that the kind of thing that you can even prepare for, like, in your hotel room? Like, I mean, you can't pretend, like, something's coming at you in the mirror. You're going to look like an insane person, and probably it's not going to even be helpful. So, again, is it sort of like be in shape, be ready, know it's coming, and, again, just live through that experience in real time? You're a very prepared actor. I, like, wouldn't put it past you that you practice your scared face in the mirror. I did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I did. I did. You just want to make sure your scared face works. I'm very sure, you know, yeah, that it's convincing. Do you have different scared faces for different levels of scared? Yes, from F1 to F5 level tornado they change. Can you give me an F1? Let's start low. F1.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Do we want to do each state? F2, let's go, F2. Do you want to do F2? Your turn, F3. Sorry, that one got me. F3. F4, Glenn. Oh my God, like that one of those. And under the breath mutter.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Oh, my God. It's here. And then the granddaddy of them all. F-5, I'm out of it. Yeah, yeah. What is it like? Because, look, you've never done a film of this type, certainly. And even like your stuff, you've never been front and center in something like this. What is it like, again, you love movies, you love this kind of thing, to see this with an audience.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It must be just so surreal and kind of a bucketless moment. Completely. I mean, our first premiere was in Leicester Square in London, and I grew up remembering all these huge films coming to Leicester Square, and then having these big premieres, and all my parents came, and my whole family and all my friends, and I stepped onto that carpet, and I was like, wow, like, this is, it really was a real pinch-be moment. And, yeah, it was amazing to be there with Glenn and Anthony and the whole, you know, just seeing that film on the big screen and really getting a sense of just how big it was.
Starting point is 00:20:42 It really was a big bucketless tick for me, for sure. Was it something that was kind of on the list, like, the last few years? Like, I'd like to test myself in this kind of a movie. I think so. I mean, as an actor, you just want to be able to look back on your career when you're older and be like, God, I did loads. Look at all these different things I did. Like, I'd love to do a rom-com and, you know, play a villain.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I want to try my hand at everything. And for me, it was so perfect because it was a chance to be in something of this scale, but also with a filmmaker that I really felt held by and who had an eye for character and I knew was going to ground it in truth in some way. And that's kind of what I'd always hope as an actor that there can be that detail no matter the scale.
Starting point is 00:21:19 And for you, Glenn, I mean, again, I always say like every movie is a miracle and every great movie is like 10 times a miracle. So it must just be an extraordinary sense of relief. I mean, you knew Isaac was talented, obviously. You knew the script was there, but until you see it in a theater and see it with an audience, you don't know. Well, I think what makes Isaac, again, our director is like, you know, so special, but he really, like, I think the greatest filmmakers I've worked with are just really great listeners, you know, and he really listened to the, you know, he literally let all the cast contribute ideas and bring things to the table. and, you know, he never, you know, shot down ideas
Starting point is 00:21:58 before they needed to be shot down. And he, again, he's from this place. He's from Arkansas. You know, he's from Tornado Alley. He knows this place. And so it was just a, set was so calm. Like, despite the chaos that was happening around us, you know. Isaac, it was like, it was almost a problem how soft-spoken he was sometimes
Starting point is 00:22:19 when they were shooting ice and debris and all those things. Like, you know, but he's, he's, he's, he's. He's a rare kind of guy that can keep the heartbeat in a movie. And he paid attention to performance in the midst of this. He wasn't worried about visual effects and special effects. He let department heads lead a lot of that, and he really focused on how an audience was going to engage with it emotionally, which is the thing that matters at the end of the day. You mentioned him being soft-spoken.
Starting point is 00:22:45 It occurred to me when I was watching the movie. Like ADR is always a part of the process, right, where you have to kind of loop in your voices in a film. But in a film like this, where the set was so loud as I understand it, was like, did you have to like deliver a whole other performance in ADR and how mortifying is that for an actor? So embarrassing. I think I spent three days just screaming. Right. Because there's a lot of screaming. And after I was like, you know, I took a long bath after it because it was, yeah, deeply mortifying, to be honest. But actually great. I mean, I remember you telling me an amazing story about Top Gunn, about how, because there was so many masks in the airplanes, that you can
Starting point is 00:23:25 rewrite a lot of the script in post, which is so cool. And actually, to be honest, the same with us, but it was so loud that we had to re-record quite a lot. But you can add so much more dimension in ADR, and that's a real gift. So we're talking about the physicality and the elements. Would you rather have wind or water pelt you in the face? Wind. Wind. Yeah. Water, water, no Bueno. Would you rather be sweating or freezing in a scene? Sweating.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Sweating. This is like learned experience. I sense experience coming out of your mouth. Yeah, we had some really cold, wet nights. There's one sequence, just watch, at the motel. I'll just say it was filmed in December in Oklahoma. It was so cold. And we were in shorts and a tank top and rain and wind.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I was cold. Yeah, that was a brutal night. That was a brutal night. It's a sick sequence. It's amazing. But it's brutal night. I just like to hear you describe it, and then I turned to Glenn, and I just see him doing this.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I'm going back. Going back to Pahuska. I guess this is for Glenn specifically. A wet t-shirt or no t-shirt? What do you prefer? I mean, I didn't realize there's like a wet t-shirt moment in this movie
Starting point is 00:24:41 that totally caught me by surprise. No, trust me. They were like, hey, just so you're where Isaac was like, hey, we're going to have a rain machine in the shot. I think it'll look cool. I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool. And they're like, hey, I don't think we're going to do the jacket.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Just kind of hold it. You're leaving the house. I was like, all right. And then walking out, I'm like, okay, I see what's happened. Sorry, we're objectifying you, Glenn. I apologize. So water or fire, we kind of covered this, but it seems like, but they're both horrible probably, but.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Fire, sure. Yeah, great. Here's my way of getting at a newsy question. Are you doing back draft, buddy? What's going on? Am I doing back draft? Guys, you know, who knows? I'll go into fire.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I don't know, but not on that. What's the... I love that movie, by the way. So if it happens, amazing. Okay, so you look back at this experience. What's the new skill on the skill set, on the resume that you add to this? Well, stunts for me.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I've never done really stunts like this. So now I know how it works. Mostly let this stunt person do it, would be my learning. Big lesson of the shoot. Exactly. We've been talking about a lot about the action. There's also, you know, we talked about how this is kind of a swerve for you and your career,
Starting point is 00:25:56 there's a wonderful symmetry, your buddy Paul Meskell. Also, we're going to see very soon in a genormous gladiator movie. Have you guys commiserated? Have you commiserated about like just the confluence of events? You're in a Twister movie, he's in a gladiator movie. What has happened to our lives, essentially? I know, it's so cool. I mean, I was thinking, you know, it all started in an audition room in Dublin five years ago,
Starting point is 00:26:23 and now I'm here. And it's sort of wild seeing where Paul's going to. It's sort of, you know, he's my best friend and he's so talented. I'm just so proud of him, truly. When people see you guys out in the wild together, they must, like, doubly freak out. Like they're seeing one, they're seeing both of you, I'm seeing normal people in life. Like, how do they react? Do you notice a difference?
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah, I mean, I think, like, we went to Glastonbury. recently and that was funny. I think people are like, wait, what? But also because, I mean, we're both so normal. I think when you're just normal, people are like, oh, cool, and then they're normal, you know? But yeah, I think it's definitely novel when we're together for sure. So we were talking in the beginning about the press tour. You guys have, you've done it all. You've competed eating wings. You've done dances. Let's talk about the dances for a second, actually. We were talking about drinks earlier. How many drinks did you have to pour into that guy's gull to make him do a TikTok dance.
Starting point is 00:27:18 None? He was well up for it. I've always wanted to be a TikTok star, Josh. Should we take a look at their dancing ability? Check it out. This is quick, but memorable. How does that make you feel to watch that back? I'm sort of in that same place of that cold night in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So much trauma. No, I gotta say Daisy, um, Daisy has been, you look, the entire time we were shooting, she was our, the team leader, and the person that took us out to fun bars, to line dance, and she was the resident DJ on set, really created a vibe in Oklahoma. When, you know, a lot of times like with a cast,
Starting point is 00:28:24 you know, people separate and they go home after work and they don't really, you know, form real relationships. And Daisy was such a heartbeat and just like the fun engine to the whole set. So it makes sense that, you know, she would convince us to do a TikTok dance. And line dancing has become a big part of her life and there may be a line dancing TikTok,
Starting point is 00:28:47 coming soon that she also convinced me to do that was your idea okay maybe he pretends he doesn't want it but he wants did it come naturally to him does he have a natural bank more oncores when you switch to a scotia bank banking package learn more at scotia bank dot com slash banking packages. Conditions apply. Scotia Bank, you're richer than you think. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. Well, big news to share it, right? Yes, huge, monumental, earth shaking.
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Starting point is 00:29:38 Mike and Tom, eat snack. Wherever you get your podcasts. Unless you get them from a snack machine, in which case, call us. Oh, there's a brat in Glenn. Always. The best time. To be fair, I didn't know what Brack Girl Summer was until recently.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I'll teach you the dance, too. Don't worry. Can you define Brat Girl Summer by now? It's honestly too complex to really talk. Right. It's more of a state of mind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just how I live. Okay, it's official.
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Starting point is 00:31:15 Of the two of us? Yeah. Gosh, neither of us really, but... Me? Yeah, yeah. Me at this point. What would it be? Teaching your TikTok dances?
Starting point is 00:31:24 What would you do? I mean, I think I used to have a YouTube channel when I was like eight where I did like a French braid. So I'd continue with that. Amazing. Stick that up. Who's most likely to be a superhero at this point? I think you... You?
Starting point is 00:31:41 What? Oh, really? You're super. We haven't really talked about it. We never really had superhero conversations. Here it is, it's happening in real time. The Greeks are happening, yeah, yeah. I'm saying this opens up a world of possibilities.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You can do it all. Star in a musical. Who's going to star in the musical first? Man? Singing in the rain. Yeah, I, yeah, I, oh no, I'm not starring. It's just one of my, you know, it's one of my favorite movies of all time. Gene Kelly was a big hero of mine, so if I were to do a musical, that'd probably be the one.
Starting point is 00:32:14 This is a missed opportunity. There was a lot of rain. There's a lot of fire in this movie. This is really singing in the rain, the action movie. She's going out for musical numbers, yeah. Stay to the end of the credits. Yeah, no. Who's more likely to be caught checking themselves out in the mirror prior to a scene?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Hmm. Don't do it. Honestly, maybe... Anthony? Yeah, Anthony. Yeah. Smart lady, yeah. Who's more competitive?
Starting point is 00:32:43 Who's more competitive? A Daisy. Yeah, me. How does that manifest over what? Everything? Any big, small things? I just, do you know what? I don't mind losing, but I hate the thought of it.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So within the process I'm competitive, but once I've lost, I'm fine. Yeah, you're not a sore loser, but she brings it all to the table. No, honestly, like from minute one of meeting her, I will tell you, one of my favorite things about meeting Daisy for the first time was we were in rehearsal and Daisy comes. And Daisy comes in this like really, like almost like this kind of outfit, like just very chic. And we're in Oklahoma and I'm like, oh, Daisy Edgar Jones like coming in with like some style to thing. I'm like in sweatpants. And then after that first meeting, she wore the same gray sweatpants suit the entire time. But I was like, okay, she came competitive to the first one.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I lost. And then we were good, you know? Good to know what you're dealing with right from the start. Are we more likely to get the normal people continuation or the, Top Gun sequel first. What do you think goes? I mean I have a date. Top Gun. No, no. Do you have a date? No. Okay. Then probably me. Any news you want to share tonight? Absolutely not. Do you know things you can't say? Josh, we should go to the next question.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That's all I needed. That's all I needed. And you get asked this, I know, every day, which is a flattering thing. People want to see that story continue. In your heart of heart, do you think at some point you guys will go back? I don't know. It's probably for Sally Rooney. I mean, it's hard. In some ways, I'd love to see where they are 10 years later, but then also I feel like it was such a beautiful, complete, uncomplete story, and we can always wonder, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:29 And in terms of sequels, getting back to Twisters, I mean, one of the things that I think really works about this film and you guys will see when you see it is it really does honor the original and the spirit of it without being ham-fisted about connecting it to specific characters and moments, et cetera. It's its own thing, but again, honors the original. That being said, if you guys continue, is there an interest in connecting it even more? Would you want to see Helen Hunt, other characters,
Starting point is 00:34:53 more references woven in? Or do you have a feeling of where you go forward? I think what's really, look, I think what's really bold about this movie is that Isaac, you know, it's such a delicate dance to try to like service up fans of the original but also try to make something wholly original. And I feel like Isaac really leaned
Starting point is 00:35:13 into the more holy original thing. I don't think he did a lot of fan servicing in this, and I think it makes it a standalone movie that really just like, I don't know, just burns with a brighter fuel, you're not looking back, you're very present in this movie. We don't have cows. You don't need a flying cow in every Twister movie.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, they're just on the ground kind of grazing. It's the poor cows alone. They don't need to be flying around. Some audience questions for you guys. Claudia wants to know what are the essentials of a Twisters summer? Forget Brat Girl Summer. What's a Twister's summer? Well, a specific windy blowout because, you know, just basically go and put your head in front of like any form of strong wind. Not from a human.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Sorry. The amount of breaking wind puns that came out of Daisy on this movie. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. It's the end of the press store. This is when you let it all hang out guys. Anyway, yeah. What was the question? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Oh, Twister Summer. What are the elements that make a great? Oh, Twister Summer. What are the elements you need for Twister Summer? I would go in a shirt that doesn't, to watch this movie in a shirt that you don't see sweat in. I think we all realized how sweaty we were after we got out of that first IMAX screening. It's a very intense movie. And I think like there's a belly sweat.
Starting point is 00:36:35 There's some belly sweat that can happen. Stress sweat. Yeah, a white t-shirt that when rained on looks great. Windy hair. Yep. And a great soundtrack of which this film has. Yeah, Twister soundtrack. Another audience question.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Directors have been making disaster movies always since movies began. Why do you think we keep returning to this genre? Why do we love a good disaster movie? Yeah, well, I think what's exciting about something like Twisters. I said it before, but the original inspired so many people to chase. And it's really cool to have a film where you root for characters in moments of sort of adrenaline and peril, but, you know, up against something that's plausible and real. And I think, yeah, it's just exciting to be a part of something that's got adventure, but it's
Starting point is 00:37:21 also like it's based in our natural world. It's based in our real world in quite a cool way. And I think, yeah, we just love that that feel of adrenaline, I think, is really infectious and it's what you go to the film's experience, is feeling, you know, things. Yeah, it's relatable. We all know what that is. we don't necessarily want to be there, but we want to kind of get a taste of it, and this just gives it just enough. Here's a good question.
Starting point is 00:37:41 What scene made you break the most during filming? When we're watching the movie, what should we look out for a scene that really tested you? What scene made us break the most in this movie? There's quite a few. Yeah. Daisy's a goof.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I mean, I think you guys are probably... Spoiler words. You are too. Really hard to, like, be terrified when you're not. Daisy's around. Because we also, she introduced me to the term eggy. You know, like when you're acting to an invisible tornado. Right. You know, and she's like, it's feeling a bit eggy. You know what like? There's the accent. We got it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I feel like we both quite a bit on the
Starting point is 00:38:24 dinner table scene. Oh yeah, yeah, that was right. Yeah. Yeah, that was a really fun night. You're going to see there's this great dinner scene where it's really like Tyler and Kate like kind of getting to know each other. I would say more as like humans and yeah, we barely got through that. It's like magic hour. It's like one of those that stresses the entire camera department out. You have 20 minutes to shoot the movie, you know, the scene and Daisy and I just got the giggles. Sure the crew appreciated that. Yeah. Guys. For both of you, your work has, both of your works have spanned many genres.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Is there any one genre in particular you would like to do again or one that you haven't done yet. Yeah, I'd love to do a, oh, I'd love to do a horror again. I did a horror called Fresh and I really enjoyed it. I'd love to do. Good movie. You and Sebastian, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Well, you got the scared face. You got frightened face. That's where I learned my scare, that's where all the training came. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually where Daisy and I met, by the way, is the fresh premiere. Yes. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I didn't know I was going to a premiere. I thought it was just a screening and then I see like just meat hanging everywhere. Yeah, and then, yeah, I met you, you were lovely, and then she was lovely in the, I got to chemistry read, she was cast, and she was very nice in the chemistry read, gave me all the chemistry on the other side of that Zoom. Your chemistry was over Zoom? Yeah. That's got to be challenging.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Worked out. Obviously. What's the genre for you? Is there one on the list? Do you chase a genre or he chase, it seems like you're chasing filmmakers and great. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of great filmmakers, like, I feel like, Edgar Wright is a guy that I'd wanted to work with so long. Like, I'm about to do Running Man with Edgar Wright, and he's like one of those.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I feel like he's like, thank you. He's like, he's like a genre in himself, you know what I mean? He's like one of those, like singular filmmakers. I feel like that's, guys like the Daniels, you know, like just like guys that really have like a unique perspective on the world and get to live in their vision, you know? You brought it up. What can I expect out of an Edgar Wright interpretation of a Stephen King book? It's so sick. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Not like the art. No, it's not like the movie. It's the book. It's way more, it's sci-fi Jason Bourne. It's like, it's like, but it's his world is like, his vision for it is so fun. It's going to be epic. I'm really excited. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:40:49 All right, we're going to end with this, the happy, sad, confused, profoundly random questionnaire, as if my questions haven't been random enough. Here we go, guys. Dogs or cats. Dogs. Dogs. Some sad cat owner over here. over here. I heard me.
Starting point is 00:41:05 What do you guys collect? Do you collect anything, either of you? You collect lots of stuff. From a family of hoarders. You don't throw anything to the way ever. Nostolic hoarders. What do you collect? Well, I save all my scripts. So I have like my, and I save an audition side
Starting point is 00:41:25 sometimes. So I have my first ever like audition for normal people and, you know, a film I did called Pond Life that started me off. and yeah, so I save all my scripts. I don't know if that's collecting, really. Yeah. I was going back through some of our notes. Daisy and I spent a lot of time, like, kind of, you know, breaking apart the script and rewriting stuff,
Starting point is 00:41:42 and I've been sending her pictures and little notes that we took along the way. It is fun to go down memory lane. I don't know if, like, I try to take my belt buckle. I usually take a piece of my wardrobe from every movie, and I took my belt buckle that says tornado wrangler, and I got a call that said, you need to give that back. But I do have the cattle guard from the front of Tyler's truck. I have that now.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And I didn't steal that. I was going to say, do they know about this? And I'm turning that into my dining room table. Or like in my kind of theater area. It's like the table in there. And the soaking wet t-shirt you've kept for such a mentality. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I bought that at an auction.
Starting point is 00:42:30 You beat me out on it. Sorry. Okay. Last actor you were mistaken for. I get Anne Hathaway a lot. And Joe Quinn. You get Joe Quinn? I haven't been mistaken for Joe Quinn, but people have told me I look like a female Joe Quinn. Huh. Yeah. Okay. I see it. Do you? Yeah. Glenn and I don't. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I mean, great actor. Yeah. He's a handsome guy. Handsome dude. Just, I just don't think you guys are this. same. Anywho. I get Justin Hartley. Right. Sort of a validating noise. Something beautiful about that. The collective, what's the wallpaper on your phone? You want to cop to what's on the wallpaper on your phone? It is currently a photo booth photo of me and all my best friends from normal people. Again, we're on a roll, guys.
Starting point is 00:43:39 It's my family and me in matching track suits. How's like a matching outfit, don't they? Yeah, yeah, they love a theme. What's the worst note of director has ever given you? I hate when directors give you percentages, when they're like, just 10% more. And you're like, what do you mean? that I struggle with.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah, I'm trying to think like with the worst, like the worst note. I think it's more, yeah, because sometimes I want somebody when they're like, so I want you to think, I actually don't like when they give me like, hey, I want you to think about this. Like I don't want them to tell me how to do it. Right. Just tell me what you want. How to get that. Where do you want me to get to?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah, I'll do the work. Yeah, because if they just say, hey, I think this is affecting you more emotionally or, hey, just get through it. you know whatever it is like I prefer those notes because then I'll be like oh yeah I know how to I can reverse engineer it right but I hate it when they're like hey let's talk about your dad I'm like I'll get there that's my call all right finally the spirit of happy second fuse an actor that always makes you happy you see them on screen you're happy oh Glenn Powell oh Daisy Edgar John a movie that makes you sad
Starting point is 00:44:58 Molly and me I cried so hard in Marling me that my eyes were swollen for days. I literally for days. And I bet the person I was on a date. And I bet the person I was on a date with, I said, I said, okay, whoever buys, I was like, whoever cries first has to buy dinner. And then I was just like sobbing. Or it was like just like,
Starting point is 00:45:26 pay for dinner and she has to be stuck with me while I'm still crying. God, that's a... I was going to say, is there one worse than Marley in me? I don't think I've ever cried as hard as I did in Marley. Don't watch it now you have brisket. That's going to be... Oh, don't even go there. Now I'm back to that faraway...
Starting point is 00:45:44 And finally, a food that makes you confused. What food do you not get? Chicken fried steak. No, that's not true. It's confusing, though. Oh, it's confusing. What is it? Is it chicken? Is it steak?
Starting point is 00:45:58 What's going on? Yeah, I get it. Okay. I'm with her. Either way, I'm not a fan. Okay. I'm not. We're just saying you love each other like ten seconds ago.
Starting point is 00:46:06 You love a chicken fry steak, right? I don't really, you know. Oh, shit. It's too conceptually weird. Okay, okay. Well, there's a lot of British foods I don't love. Pies, you know? Just pies in general.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Like a meat pie. Okay. What? Yeah. Well, you grow stones over here. I'm throwing. We're not going to end on this sad note. On a happy note.
Starting point is 00:46:32 This movie rocks. It's fantastic. Congratulations, guys. The movie is Twisters. It's out in theaters right now. Get your tickets. See it in an IMAX. See it on the biggest screen possible.
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