Happy Sad Confused - Daisy Ridley, Vol. II

Episode Date: July 1, 2019

It's a special day when the voice of "Happy Sad Confused" (well, besides Josh) stops by for a chat. On this visit, Daisy Ridley talks about her big leap, starring in a film all her own with "Ophelia", plus an update on what to expect in "The Rise of Skywalker" and Daisy's very late take on "Game of Thrones".  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Happy, Sad, Confused begins now. Today on Happy, Sad Confused, Daisy Ridley on Star Wars, Game of Thrones, and her new film, Ophelia. Hey guys, I'm Josh Harowitz. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. And yes, that voice you just heard at the outset was indeed the true voice of Happy, Sad, Miss Daisy Ridley. For those of you who have listened to the podcast for some time, for the last couple years, Daisy has been kind enough to be our outro voice, a reminder at the end of every podcast to

review, rate and subscribe to Happy, Said, Confused. Well, she paid me a visit. She came by the home office for the first time I might add for a full on Happy Sad Confused Visit and was kind enough to add her voice to the mix to the new intro to the show. So now you have Daisy bookending each episode of Happy Say I Confused. What more can you ask for, my friends? Not only that, she was a delightful chat. Always love chatting with Daisy Ridley. Of course, you know her primarily as Ray, no last name, just Ray like Moses or Madonna, from the new Star Wars films, the new Star Wars trilogy, but also starting to chart a path

on her own outside of Star Wars. She was in Murder on the Orient Express. She produced a documentary and is now starring in the new film Ophelia. And yes, if that name sounds familiar, you Shakespeare fans, you. That is, of course, the iconic character from Hamlet, who now gets her own film. It's a, it's kind of a unique take on Hamlet, where, as you might imagine, it is looking at that famous story through the eyes of Ophelia, fleshes out sort of that character, adds a lot of new things to the mix, and includes Daisy in the title role, the great Clive Owen, Naomi Watts, and of course, I can't leave out our good old buddy, Mr. Tom Felton. And yes, we talk a little bit about Tom on this episode because Daisy is a huge Harry Potter fan.

So I had to paste Tom and Harry Potter a little bit of love. This was such a great chat. She, Daisy was in New York just for barely a day, did a play. bunch of interviews running around New York that day and happily stopped by my office for a chat. Couldn't have been more relaxed and chill and laid back and honest and open. We cover a lot in this conversation. Certainly, some about her beginnings in the industry, how she came to get involved in Star Awards, which is basically her film debut, essentially, up through the trilogy and yes, teasing a little bit of what's to come

in the rise of Skywalker. If you're a Star Wars fan, you're very much going to appreciate, I think, this chat about what we can expect in the finale of this latest trilogy and indeed the nine-film Skywalker saga. A lot of little morsels of goodness in this conversation about Star Wars.

And not only that, we talk about where her career is going outside of Star Wars. She's also filmed a leading role opposite Tom Holland in Chaos Walking, which is the new Doug Lyman movie, which could be another potential franchise for her. We, of course, talk about Ophelia, and a little bit of this, a little bit of that. This was just a meandering fun conversation with one of my favorite people. So I know you guys are going to enjoy this. She's one of the best out there. I'm so happy to have gone to know her in these first two years of her career, and I'm excited to see what comes next. We're

dropping this on the eve of July 4th. I hope you guys have a great holiday. I hope you guys have some great time off with friends and family. Check out a movie or two. Go check out Spider-Man far from home. Super fun. I just did an interview for MTV with Zendaya and Jacob Badalon. That should be up by now. That was a tremendous amount of fun. It was, unfortunately, we were supposed to talk to Tom. Tom was under the weather, had to cancel a bunch of press, including our catch-up. But the good news is I got to meet Jacob for the first time, who was a character and amazing. And Zendaya's

always super fun and professional and awesome. And that chat should be up on MTV News's YouTube page and all their social shenanigans. And the other big movie, the less, you know, the less of a wide release, obviously, than Spider-Man out this weekend is

Midsomar. Or Midsummer, if you're an ugly American like me. Of course, I had Jack Rainer on the podcast a couple weeks back. Go check out Mid-Summer. If you like horror, if you're interested in cool new filmmakers, Ari Aster, who directed Hereditary last year, is one to watch. This one is divisive, I know, but there's a lot to chew on. There's a lot to enjoy. It may not be the home run that Hereditary was. It wasn't for me, but I liked

a lot about it, and it certainly provoked a lot of thought, and it's one of those that I'm going to definitely want to return to again, and Jack was a great conversation. So I would recommend checking out midsummer and then actually going back to the Jack Rainer conversation because he was in a spoilerific mood and talked a lot about plot details in that one. Anyway, on to the main event for today. Daisy Ridley, of course, starring in Ophelia. Check it out in theaters. Also available on VOD. Support her non-Star Wars projects too. And remember to review rate and subscribe to Happy Second Fused. Spread the good word. And without any further ado, here's Daisy.

Hi there. Welcome to my world. How are you? Good to see you. Good to see you. Nice for coming over today. Sure. I know a long one.

Oh my god, you literally just do it in here. Yeah, super cash. Wow, okay. Anybody want? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Thank you. All right.

Oh my god, is that something you did with Donal? Yes. General. It's pretty. It's pretty. is, hear me out. It's, without tooting our own own, it's a pretty great sketch. Really?

You should check it out. I need to subject you to my insanity one of these days. Jennifer and Bradley Cooper. Well done. Oh, hello again. Oh, hello, Matt. You might as well just have a spot in my office now. Wow.

Yeah, there's lots of feast on, Daisy. This is quite a thing. This is like being inside Josh Horowitz's brain. I apologize. Oh, my God. That's many years ago. That was at a Dave and Busters. Have you frequented at Dave and Busters?

What's that? It's like one of those, like, video games and, like, weird, like, you can play all sorts of stupid shit, and, like, you know, the claw machine where you can pick up the... Oh, like an arcade. Yeah, like an arcade. Oh, yeah, no. So I did a shoot with Paul Rudd way back when, and that's our child together. Wow. Yeah, we should never really have a child together, should we?

Wow. Mind-blown, Daisy. Mind-blank. He looks like he'd turn out to be a serial killer. Like, you'd see a picture and go, yeah. Yeah, that seems right. Occupation for that one, serial killer. Cereal killer.

I feel so underdressed. I mean, you know. You've got a premiere to do. You got a little Q&A action to do? No, I've been just strolled around the streets of New York. That's how you just... So I have so many blisters. My feet are fucked.

But the heels are off now. The heels are off. I'm going to have to put them back on. I did step into a puddle yesterday and immediately felt like I was diseased. And my foot tingled. I literally got a pot of... Somebody got me a pot of war because I went from meeting.

And then I douse my foot in antibacterial. And it... This is how Daisy dies. It pulsed for like an hour. And then I went to an infrared, so hopefully it's gone. Oh, no. You know, the disease is gone from me. Well, you came on the sweatiest, grossest day in New York and quite some time.

So congratulations on that. Thank you. Yeah. Great glasses. I do wear glasses. Great glasses. Oh, great glasses. I was like, you've met like 12 times.

You've never noticed that I wear glasses. I got you. I don't know if they're new, but they are new. Yeah, they're nice. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it. Um, it's, it's always a treat to catch up with you, let alone the, really the true voice of happy, say, I confused. You, you know your voice is still at the end of every podcast. Really? Reminding people to rate, review and subscribe. Really? So, so, um, should I have like five percent? Five percent of zero is, um, so yes, I feel like you, you, you're the only person really in a position to fire me, so I'm, I'm going to try and impress you today. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Um, how you've been? I've been great. All well? all while time is just flying by

popped through the 1917 set a couple days ago as you do and it was pretty much Star Wars crew with my buddy George who's in Ophelia and I was looking around to everyone I was like it's been four months since we finished it's crazy it's been two months in Chicago yeah it's flying by

it's flying by well it's the end of days so right now you know basically we're just like can you imagine if the world ended now in the middle of a of a sad podcast no not the podcast just generally speaking no if the world ended at the end of the podcast can you imagine they were like beep beep my god this is what earth was like yeah the aliens find this speaking into a microphone this is the only evidence of civilization ever that's a lot of weight on our shoulders a lot let's sum up let's make you good existence in the next 35 minutes so in the beginning in the beginning there was et so

I've got also, if you want to tap into your old bartending skills, I've got plenty of booze here. But that's not open. And that's a good whiskey. It's a good whiskey. Only that's a keel has been opened. Yeah. Do you still have those skills? Do you have a bar at home where you can kind of wheel your magic powers? No, I'm still waiting for, you know, one of my incredibly successful friends to invite me around to their house that hopefully would have a bar in it. I've never been to a house with a bar in it. I know. I feel like it's a sort of thing that should happen. Like a secret grotto like like a book that you pull back and suddenly a bar swings open one of the best things that ever happened was going around the pixel studios it was one of the best days

my life and you know they all like can do whatever they like with their things like people build so much stuff out polystyrene and there's one where you crawl under it and it's like a little thing there's like secret rooms and you get a little token and then you can use it in the gift show it was crazy. I want to, so are you saying that Pixar behind the, all the happy animation offices, there's just tons of booze, just like cauldrons of whiskey and tequila? There was just so many happy people. That's the secret of Pixar.

The secret. It's just really happy people. It was one of the best tours ever. I'm jealous. Yeah. I've never done the Pixar. I've never done the Lucas film, the Skywalker Ranch. I've never been there either.

Really? Yeah, I think I're going to go this year. I think it's time. I think so. I never did. I did do Fright Night at Paragascar. Iron Mount, which was really scary. Never did the Universal tour.

I think it's time. Are you an amusement park sort of person? Yeah. Roller coasters? Yeah. Loops, the whole thing? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I have done a skydive.

What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were talking about that today because I was talking about Will Smith jumping out of the helicopter. Right. Of the Grand Canyon, yeah. Yeah. I was told not to do a bungee jump by my godfather because he said your brain actually rattles around in your skull. So I have promised him to not do that.

to do a skydive when I was younger. Was it, at what age and was it petrifying? Was it? I was 19. The man I was strapped to look like Rocky Balboa. So it was quite surreal. It was fantastic and terrifying. The beginning was terrifying.

Then it was fantastic. I'm putting this all together now. First tattoo at 15, skydiving and 19. Were you a wild child, Daisy? But weirdly, I'm getting more scared. And apparently you're more evolved if you are scared of things like heights. Because humans should be. I am super evolved because I'm scared of everything.

It should be, you shouldn't like flying. You shouldn't like, it's not what human should be. Yeah, yeah, so I am weirdly getting more scared as time goes on, yeah. I recently, just a couple weeks ago, I went with the nieces and nephew to Disney, and they wanted to do the loops. And I, like, aged Josh Harowitz was like, you guys go ahead, I can't, I can't handle it. Did you hold the bags? Yeah, I did. That's what my mom used to do.

That's what I'll hold the bags. Go on. I'll take a picture. I did though I have one up on you I've made my own white saber now Oh you went to Star Wars World

Was it fantastic It was pretty great Did you go to the ride That I put my voice to Yeah yeah That was really hard We were shooting And the only time they could do

It was like on a shoot day Or something And I was really tired It was either I think it must have been Before Christmas I was really Like I worked a lot of days

On that film I was really tired And it was super technical I hadn't, I could not for the life of me remember the lines. It was really stressful, really stressful. But then... Now you're immortalized forever. You nailed it.

Now I'm in a theme park. Is that the first place or last place you ever need to go to? Like, I mean, you've done your time for Star Wars. You don't necessarily need to bask in the world devoted to Star Wars, but is a part of you, like, curious about what they've created? Oh, I'm going to go to Star Wars World, yeah. Yeah. I did realize the other day I've never been to Madam Two Swords, and they very kindly,

because I'm reading the book, well, the fiction. diary of Madam Two Sword called Little. Yeah, it's awesome. And I was like, oh, I never went and saw my thing. That's a shame. People worked hard on that. So I'm going to go sit. Sometimes they come out a little freaky.

Like, have you seen like the Ellen DeGeneres version? She always liked to trot that one out. And there was like, there were a few that were absolutely terrible. Mine looked pretty good. They got it down. Yeah. But I sort of want to go in and like stand next to it and look around, hopefully. Just have someone take a picture of me and be like, stop it.

It's not even me. God, I've never looked better. But the cue for Madam Two Swords is so obscenely long. Yeah. Are you spending most of your time in the States now or back home? No, London. Yeah. London.

And the weather has been crazy like it has here. Crazy. Last week, it was really cold and then it has been utterly boiling all over the place. Like you leave one weather and you come home and you're like either freezing from the rain or boiling because you water many clothes. It's almost like there's a climate problem. It's almost like there's a climate problem. But what's crazy is apparently in 20. years, England is going to be like a Mediterranean climate. So we're becoming like the

wine growing place. Right. Apparently. I'm glad there's a slight upsides at the end of the world. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. That our climate is going to be that changed within 20 years. My wife works in the environment, like for NADC, which is an environmental, yeah, trying to do the good work. So it's part of my daily life, as it should be part of everybody's daily life, because it's kind of, the stakes couldn't be higher. Something sad I read yesterday was a man who's volunteered every weekend for the last however many years to clean up the beaches he's stopped because he said we're losing the battle there's no point that's kind of crushing yeah and also the waste in new york i'm saying earlier is heinous yeah straws and plastic everywhere and like

do you guys know that there's an issue with this or it's because i've really felt like london's trying yeah i don't think you're allowed to have straws in london anymore and they do get really and all you're halfway through your drink and then suddenly you can't slurp anymore because it's broken in half. That's here too now. The paper straws have come to New York. Starbucks.

Starbucks needs to do better. Yeah. I don't often buy things from Starbucks, but we were just given some tea. And I was like, there is so much plastic. Why is there plastic in my tea? Like, I'm good. I'll manage with the paper.

Yeah. I know it's not ideal, but I'll manage. I'll manage with a wooden stirer. The plastic thing didn't even reach the bottom. So the honey just settled at the bottom of my tea. God, that's what problem is. Just to sound like such an asshole. No, no, no.

Could you imagine living here is New York some place? Why not? I find it a very hard city. I heard so many great things about it. And I remember the first ever time I came here. I was like doing the rounds before Star Wars came out. And, you know, I don't think people believe that I was a big part in the film. So I had to convince them that I was as such.

And I say, I was like, oh, you know, I'd love to stay here for a couple days and just see. And I found it so lonely. Driving in is so strong. I think it's that initial drive-in. Yeah. You're screwed because it's so stressful. driving in. Yesterday I drove in.

Oh, and I was so hungry. And the airport was so difficult. Like, there's not enough people working there. I find it hard. But London has many of the same issues I would venture. I think because London's not so high. Like, there's only a bit of London that's high, so it's not so oppressive.

Sure. When you're driving in, it tends to be lower. Okay. Although it is getting super built up in Shepherd's Bush, so that is a bit intimidating as you're driving in. Maybe we should get you a place in Brooklyn. You start in the outer borough. It's a little bit more of a neighborhoody feel.

This is what I hear many people talk about going to Brooklyn. Yeah. But then it's sort of like you're not moving to New York because Brooklyn's like a separate place. But Brooklyn's now New York. I mean, now Brooklyn is... I've been to Brooklyn. Went to Franies for pizza?

Maybe Frankies? No. I don't know. Maybe if there's a Frannies too. There are a lot of good Brooklyn pizza places. The best pizza on Earth. It was very nice. We have that over on you.

We have better pizza. Let's be honest. Yeah. Also, my trainer. just went to L.A. Obviously, had makes good food and came back to London and had makes of food.

I was like, why would you do that? Yeah, you do Indian in London. We do Indian, yeah? What else should I do? Fish and chips, obviously. That's the cliche. Pop food. Push and chips.

There's also a particular place you should go, which is a seashell in Lisson Grove. Okay. Phenomenal. Okay, done. Indian food. There's actually a good place called cricket, too.

This is the important stuff. We do, like, pretty good stuff. There's an Afghani restaurant, amazing. Okay. Eritrain. amazing. It's like, I do feel like you could get the world cuisine in London. This, I would argue, similar to New York, than has that respect. Yeah. Although, also one time

I came to a restaurant here. And to be fair, it was a Greek restaurant. I know it's cheesy, but I was really hungry. I'd been working all day and I just really wanted a meal. And I said, is there anything you could do without cheese? And then one one was so rude, I got up and walked out. And I was like, and you're all coming with me. All these people were like, please, let us here. I was like, no. And I said to manager on the way out. I was like, she was really rude. That's why we're leaving. I love it. New York brings out the best in you. That's your true New Yorker

at heart, see? I am. Heart and tough. Are you good with downtime? So you have a little downtime. You're doing a little press, obviously, for Ophelia right now. Do you know what to do with yourself in between projects, or the kind of person that's like I need a purpose? I need like a... I've started watching Game of Thrones.

Just now? Yeah, I've watched two episodes. I think it's going to take off a lot of my time. I basically, there's a list of films that I'm meant to be getting through, but instead of Sighted Game of Thrones, which is insane because one episode you could watch a film. They are excessively long. Yes, and dense. You kind of have to, it's not one of the kind of things you can't

you have to pay attention. I mean, the good thing is going in actually now is firstly I don't like to watch things when they're trendy. But now I have like the names and stuff, so I'm already linking things together. Sure. So I'm like, John Snur, you're going to the wall. And I feel like he must be, because I

know him and Dinerius as some sort of connection. I feel like he's the bastard but his mum must be some queen or other some Tegarian. Is that what the thing is? Tegarian. Yeah. Because I know he has a bigger role than right now.

I think this is your new podcast which is just Dazer Wigley just kind of like guesstimating what the rest of Game of Thrones is going to be based on kind of like hearing things over the last five years. Also one of my questions is why does Sersi end up with that hair? Right.

what was that right she starts with the flowing locks and then she has the like the page boy cut these are the important questions these are the questions and I'm never covered one might ask clive own the same thing on Ophelia I know he showed you up I think that's hair to haunt your dreams no Tino shade they didn't think he was going to be wearing a wig and they got a stock wig and um I mean you can tell it's a stock wig sure I mean it's memorable that's all I'm saying What, I shouldn't say this, but you know what? It's the end of the day. I mean, it's the end of, almost the end of my workday.

When we were doing the scene where he's like in my face, every time he spoke, a bit of the wig like was flying at me and it was very funny. I love it. And I'm more proud of myself that I did my acting. That's concentration. When really I was thinking. Your wigs are blowing in my face. Daniel Day Lewis, eat your heart out.

Could you have done that? No. No. Daisy Day Lewis. So I call myself. That's your new nickname. Yeah, because I'm entirely not that person. I mess around and then I do the thing.

So I name myself, Daisy Delo. You're going to become a shoe cobbler for the next two years. I am. I'm never going to see you again. That's what my downtime's going to be. I'm going to pick up an obscure hobby. I don't know what I could have picked up. Yeah, what's even more obscure than shoe cobbling?

So, like, niche and something that should have... An artisan craft of some sort. My mom does bookbinding. That's perfect. But she's fantastic. Yeah. I did a bit of most. mosaicing with her.

So maybe I'll become her mosaic assist. I've never heard that word before. Yeah. And the woman that she learned it from mosaiced, someone's super famous as bath. Huh. I know. Who knew?

We mentioned Ophelia. We should do the good work of putting the good word out on this one. Congratulations on it. Here's the best way I've figured out how to explain it to the Star Wars fans listening. Oh, okay. As Rogue One is to Star Wars,

Ophelia is to Hamlet. It is a different perspective on a familiar tale. Yes. Look at that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you ruining my analogy? No, there were crossovers with the characters.

Yeah, absolutely. We did it. Absolutely. If you like Troeg one, do you know what I was also thinking, watching Game of Thrones? There's definitely an appetite for films like this. People go, oh, big films,

nothing's making money except for big films. I'm like, everybody watched Game of Thrones. It was period. There was bloodlust. Sex drama. There was incest. We got that. There was, you know, all of the things you could find a Game of Thrones, Game of Thrones fans,

you could definitely find an ophelia. People out there, if you do not make this as successful as Game of Thrones, it's on you. It's on you. Not on Daisy. She did her job. Clive Owens' wigmaster did his job or her job. Absolutely. Now the onus is on you.

You do your job. Please watch this film. So this one, okay, so this is your, this is interesting because, you've done... Obviously, you've been the lead in these three Star Wars films. Not really. Not really. I mean, Star Wars is...

Ray has an important story, yeah. But, like, it's not like... It's Ray's film. This is like... It's on... You're aphelia. Yeah. And initially, I actually remember

being very upset because I wasn't happy with the cut at Sundance. And, you know, it was not that well received. And I felt really responsible and I remember being really upset because also

you know I was really lucky I did Star Wars and then Eagle Hunters was very well received and only yesterday tiny but it was always already such a famous film I thought oh my god this is a first thing I've properly led and it has not twerked out so I'm very happy that it has turned out it's turned into something that you're happy with now

yeah yeah and I will also say because I haven't had enough chance to do it my agent has been so phenomenal. And without her, there is no way this would have happened. Because she got them to do a little rejig with the cart. She was in touch with distributors and stuff. And without Hilda Queen of All, genuinely, I don't think people would have seen this film. This project is based on a book by a woman. It's written by a woman. It's directed by a woman. It's obviously a, one could say, a feminist perspective on a tale where, you know, Ophelia traditionally in Hamlet is in service of the guy.

Is that a coincidence at all? Is that something that you feel like you've gravitated more towards productions and efforts that are pro-woman? With your increased visibility and responsibility, is that something that you feel like you've kind of taken? I think I answered a question terribly earlier because someone said, oh, do you want to work with more women?

And I was like, yeah, like, I want to work. And I was a bit vague. The thing is, it's more satisfying to me that I wanted to do this project despite all of that if you see what I mean like the female thing of that wasn't the answer I thought it was a great script so it feels nicer that it was just a great script

and I didn't do it for a reason excited to the fact it was a great thing and it's awesome that it was directed by a woman because I mean I'm part of the massive Keanu Reeves fan base John Whitt 3 loved always be my maybe loved he's worked with more female directors than any other man.

Did you see that stuff? It's crazy. He also is just like phenomenal. Apparently he gave his back end deal on the Matrix to like the VFX team. I know. You cannot find a human being to say anything negative about Keanu. He's amazing. And you do think like people, I mean, obviously sometimes people, it just doesn't happen. But also a lot of people literally have not had the chance to work with a female director.

So I'm very lucky that it happened like pretty early on. You got a chance not only to work with Clive Owen, amazing Naomi Watts, but one of my favorite human beings on the planet. I've known him for sometimes to Tom Felton. Yeah, Draco. Oh, my God. Draco himself. Yeah.

Did he spend much time in his trailer with him playing on his guitar, with semi-legal smoke in the air? He did. He did have his guitar everywhere he went. Do you know, it was really... He would be a busker if he could do anything. I think he did do busking in Prague. Yeah, I'm sure he did.

I'm like, babes, you were in Harry Potter. It's okay. You don't need to do that. But he loves it. But he loves it. It's just for the joy. It was really wonderful because he's great. And actually, you know, I don't know because I'm like, oh my God, Draco Maffoy, but he was really great.

I don't know what I expected, but he was really great. He worked really hard. I love doing the scenes with him. And I wish that we had had a bit more time together, filming. He's a good guy. Yeah. You are and were a big potter fan. So where did that hit you?

I'm trying to work the ages, right? Were you too young to ever audition or get in the mix? Were you at the midnight book release parties? Like, where were you at? I remember Atonement I sent my picture in for the sister. Yeah. And so I feel like I must have been the right-ish age. But hilariously, it was Alan Horn that talks about, you know, saying Emma Watson's the one.

And he helpfully was, you know, one of the people that said yes to me in Star Wars. so we love Alan Hall. I feel like maybe, but I can't remember ever seeing like a casting call for it or anything, but I loved the books. Yeah. And I loved the films. And I recently watched a few of them,

and they're great films. They're pretty amazing. Yeah. And our hair and makeup designers on episode seven and episode nine did Harry Potter. So, you know, I feel a cosmic connection. So when you sign out to something like this is the first call to your old buddy, Kenneth Brana,

the world's foremost Shakespeare expert, being like, give me a tipper, I think I told him I was doing it. The thing that I did with Ken is I would talk at him and he would go, yeah, yeah, sorry days, just need to look at the shot and he would like excuse himself because I was talking about the juju in my flat

and like the crystals and he is great, but he is like doing his job. He's not like chat chat on set because he's directing and starring in the thing. So I think I told him once and they just skipped over it. I was like, you know what? How are you doing your thing? You're good, you're good, you're...

You're never going to see it, it's fine, it's fine. You'll see it, I'm sure you will. I don't know. Since we have the luxury of a little time, let's go back. Daisy Jazz, Isabel Ridley. Yes. Who's the jazz fan? What's the jazz about?

My dad. When I told my best friend when we first met at school, he goes, oh, my middle name's musical theater. And I was like, no, my middle name's actually jazz. You, your butt. Yeah, jazz. And then Isabel was my grandma's name, but her name was Sheila. She was Isabel Sheila, and then they called her Sheila.

And I actually asked my mom last week why they did that. They wanted her to be called Sheila, but they thought Sheila was a weird thing to have first written down or something. Okay. So anyway, she was Isabel Sheila, known as Sheila. So that's where the Isabel comes from. Was there ever a phase where you were tempted to go by jazz? Because that's like iconic. Like, that's like if you want to be a, if you turn into a pop star, that's your one word name, obviously.

I feel like you've got to be a bit cool. to carry a name like that. You've skydived. I have skydived. My thing for a moment was like, if I went into music, it would be DJ I-R-I-R-N initials, the DJ of the I-R-C, terrible. Maybe go to jazz. Maybe go jazz.

Maybe go jazz. Jazz would be better. Did you, okay, so did the parents know about the first tattoo at 15? Again, does that symbolize where you were at then? They were cool that. Yeah. I mean, I think I did it and I went home. They were like, okay.

my parents are pretty chill third child well fifth for my for my dad pretty chill I do remember my grandma saying we were on holiday and she goes

this is that pen I said oh yeah yeah yeah come off come off she goes okay temporary yeah and that was her thing I was like we don't have to different era

yeah exactly no goodbye were the ring style tattoos at the end of Star Wars where you all went in on no I kept saying let's all get matching tattoos no one kept saying I was like, I'm not joking, can we please do it?

Yeah, because John, and then John ended up getting a massive tattoo on his arm. Come on. Did you see it? No, I haven't seen it. On the gram. It's huge. It's huge. It's really cool.

Is it of you? Is it a face of you? It's face of me. There's a little map of Africa, and then there's, it's really cool. Wow. But I was like, why didn't we get matching, dude? It's not too late. Press store.

Prestor. I feel like, oh. We should get Dr. Wu when we're in New York to do it because he did one of mine and he's phenomenal. Can we make this a shoot? I'll get my first tattoo with you guys. Oh my God. Let's do it.

I'm in. I'm in. Awesome. Let's just not make it like a Mike Tyson thing on my face, okay? That's all I ask. No, we could just do like a tiny thing. You wouldn't even know. Yeah.

It's something classy. Yeah. Okay, we got a few months to figure this out. It was hilarious when we were filming. We were doing reshoots of Chaos Walking. And we were talking about something. and Tom went oh yeah I got a spider on the bottom of my foot and flora who's my hair and makeup artist also one of my great friends

she thought he was joking and went oh yeah daisy's got a millennium falcon and he was like no no no i got a spider on my foot and she was like oh god i'm so sorry oh hilarious um i'm curious about that one i know dug lyman's a madman in the best possible way hopefully i went in and saw him yesterday he's actually screening the film tonight oh yeah there's no visual effect we literally finished reshoots six weeks ago I went straight from Chicago

and did reshoots no visual effects and it's a visual effects heavy film screening it to New Jerseyans as you do so I'm ready to be ripped apart on Twitter tomorrow no no he's really really happy

good yeah yeah when it all clicks for him it's pretty great yeah yeah and I did have to tell him yesterday I'd never actually seen Bourne. And I saw it a few weeks ago and I was like, this is a great film. Yeah. Great film.

And the two and three were great as well. Totally. But it made me, you know, it made me understand the process a bit more. He's unique. I mean, everyone,

I've talked to many, obviously, that I've worked with him. Yeah. There's no one quite like. I mean, it may see, it probably seems a little bit,

like, worrisome at first, but I sort of wish I'd had a touch more warning because we literally did reshoets a year and a half after we finished filming. Right. Um, But no, I'm sort of, also, when you think about the fact that it's an original film from a studio, that's pretty big news.

Breaking, very where nowadays. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. So, okay, again, we're going back and forth in time, but okay, tell me where were you at, Daisy, when the audition for Star Wars comes? Like, were you, were you still work, were you still bartending? Were you still? I was. I remember, I do believe in the universe and that it has its way.

I was walking down the street with a makeup part and a stylist who are now my friends who I'd met on a shoot and one of them went oh apparently they're doing a new Star Wars film and I literally my whole body went tingly and I was like

I think I'm gonna get a part in this film I'm not even kidding this was in early in the year my audition was in August I called my agent and also I was not of the ilk to be like hey get me an audition would you with JJ Abrams

But I literally, that day, I was like, I just feel like I'm going to get a part in this film. It was so strange. So even though I was doubting myself the whole way through, I just felt like there was like a universal thing pushing me forward. It was the strangest thing. And then it was a lot longer before I got that actual part. Did you feel those first days on set was it was there imposter syndrome? Was there like, I'm going to get fired? No, it's pretty hard.

It was really scary. I felt just sick and I didn't really know anyone yet. And it takes me a really long time to settle down. with people and I do remember being behind the speeder and there was loads of people there and somebody had an umbrella over me and even that you're like oh someone's holding an umbrella over you okay and I remember thinking I can't do it like I can't do it this is not right do you confide that to anybody at the time or are you holding that in the I think it was Steph who was the AD I was saying it but obviously also people don't really know what to say because what do you say to that and like me

and JJ hadn't quite got our vibe like the amazing thing about this is JJ was start saying something and I'd be like, I know exactly what you mean. Like, just that amazing thing. But even my mum at the premiere of Falswaken's went, I mean, she goes, I'm nervous, but there must be, you know, reason why they cast you. Thanks, Mom. Yeah, yeah.

And it's still sort of carried on. I feel a lot more comfortable now, which comes with, I think, like, you know, I'm through my early 20s and also being surrounded by people that make you feel really loved and great. Yeah. a film more confident in my work and all of that stuff. Again, back to those early days, I'm curious, two things. Were you ever shooting as Kira, the first name of the character?

Yeah. And was it, uh, and was the accent a no-brainer? Was it always going to be your natural accent? It's not actually my natural accent. Is it not? Yeah, because my voice is quite flat, as you can hear. This droning, horribleness I'm hearing. Oh, honestly, I'm so sick of the sound of my voice today.

So we actually did a bit rounder. Oh, yeah. which I guess is easier to decipher for Americans because sometimes I speak and JJ is like literally don't understand a word you're saying I did shoot as Kira yeah for a few weeks and I remember JJ telling me when we were in Abbey Damby so it was pretty early on he said

oh I've got a new name it's Ray like awesome okay I can't remember what they were calling I think John was always Finn and then on our trailers it was like Harry and Sally or something ridiculous So for this new one, I'm not going to try to get anything real. But, you know, we saw each other in Chicago.

They revealed the big name then. So now the new theory is, please comment on this, Stacey. The Rise of Skywalker is not about a particular person. Skywalker represents an evolution of the Jedi Order. Care to comment. Okay. I mean, yeah, that sounds like a great thing. What do you think?

the more I listen to that argument that makes sense to me I mean and JJ I think did sort of say it's much right he said it represents a lot of different things right it's interesting because he told me the title and I was like oh because he'd sort of been throwing around things when we were filming and then he told me when I went to LA

and saw the just before Chicago and saw the trailer and I was like oh okay so it kind of made sense to you the more you thought about it? Yeah, but even John and people were like, oh, it was, I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't what I was expecting. Interesting.

And I would agree that it represents a lot of things. Yeah, I don't know. I think it will be one of those things that it's sort of the last few lines of the film and people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At this point, can you kind of anticipate what the controversies are that go with every Star Wars film? Like, can you, having shot this film and being one of the very few people that know pretty much everything that happens in it, are you like, oh, I know what the, what the discussion is going to be on this one. I, um, I, I can't. I think it's really, um, great. I really do. Because you've got Chris Terrio. I'm not kidding who had like Star Wars Bibles. He was doing his work. Like everything is so linked. and it works in the universe and all of the things.

Like, he did proper nerd homework. Like, he dotted all the eyes and crossed all the T's. I think it's really... It just felt really good doing it. Like, JJ said to me, they were doing... I can't remember what it was they were doing. What did he do? Anyway, he was saying that someone was saying,

oh, I'm not sure about this, I'm not sure about that in the grand scheme of things when we were filming because, you know, we were piecing things together as we went. And he said, if it works in the moment, it will work. And regardless of what you feel as a great story, if it works in a small way, it will be connected in a big way. And the audience, anyway, put themselves into the film. So regardless of how you think people are going to receive it,

different people come in with different perspectives, different lives, different stories. And everything we did felt really good, really, really good. Do you look forward to the stuff when you know you're shooting, the scenes with Adam, in particular, have such a weight to them. I mean, it's obviously fun to see you with all the actors, but every single thing

you've shot thus far, and I'm presumably in the next film, it's not going to be a laugh riot between you and Adam's. We actually joke the whole time. We just walk around, swinging a savers. Yeah, no, it's not a laugh right. And he has such a presence and such an interesting attitude and vibe, I would imagine, on set. Is there something unique about the stuff that you've gotten to do

and get to do in this one with Adam? Yeah. It was, yeah. I think it, I don't know, I just think they've just done a great job with all the relationships. Yeah. Like with the fun friendships and with the sort of strange thing with Ray and, and Kylo. And the thing is, too, it's, you know, we finished episode 8 and you can, you know where Ray is entirely. Yeah. So it's Yeah, it was interesting going into that And sort of figuring out where that was going

And there was a way that Jada was describing it as we were doing it And I was like, God, that's so true That really is like what this film is for Ray I think people, yeah, I think people are going to like it I really do Also we have a great fight A great fight and I was really happy That the Vanity Fair pictures did show a bit of it

Yeah it's a great fight like I've become such a better fighter and they made the lightsaber's lighter so you know it actually looks like we're swinging light and not like heavy heavy have you seen a cut of that at all have you seen a little bit of what that looks like

I have because I mean I have the scene with you in Last Jedi is one of my favorites of the all of the saga films if this compares to that one I'm in and also that was really hard because everything had to match up the amount of times we did there's like a dolly shot coming through and then it ends with me

and I think I was fighting James at the time who's a stuntman with the two swords it was so tiring we did like 25 takes because if one thing was off we had to keep going but I was like really proud of that fight this fight we did it was November we were had water being thrown at us and I got a great deal of respect because I did not I was like I'm not going to complain about the cold I'm just not going to do it so it was like a real thing of stamina and it just felt it feels really epic and it felt epic even at the time so I thought well imagine

we had the waves like this and then they're gonna make the waves I'm sure bigger so one can only imagine what it's gonna look like okay I will see the movie I was on the fence but now you've sold it yeah

last question on the Star Wars tip did you ever and this is I don't know this is awkward or word to talk about did you ever talk to Colin Trevaro about what his take was gonna be hilariously I sat next to him because he was Josh's guest at,

do you know Josh Gad? Josh Gad, I do, yeah. I bet you guys get on great. Fantastic human being. He's working with my brother. Really? I'll tell you off mic, but it's pretty cool, yeah. He was Josh's date at Orient Express, and we went for dinner afterwards,

after the premiere or something. We were all in the hotel, and Colin sat next to me. And I was like, what's this going to be like? It was, because all I had heard, I didn't know what had happened. I just knew that he wasn't doing it anymore and he did sort of tell me and sort of not

and it was fine and it's an awkward situation for him too I'm sure yeah he sort of told me but a much different kind of a tale yeah yeah safe to say yeah and actually no we'd gone for dinner and stuff we went for dinner with Michelle who was a producer and yeah so I sort of knew

I think everything happens for a reason I guess. So, okay, where are you at now? Coming off of the end of this trilogy and this crazy, what, five years or so, I don't know how long it's been. Are you, because, you know, we talked about Felton and, like, Harry Potter,

and, like, you can look at those actors as kind of a template in some ways for, like, how to craft a career, especially what Dan and Emma have done in terms of striking out on their own path. Like, are you wary of other franchise kind of things? No. No.

Because technically, Chaos Walking is a franchise. That's true, yeah. It was just a great story. script and I really wanted to do it. Somebody said something about Bat Girl today. I was like, I've literally never read a Bat Girl anything. So that's just, yes, people were talking that you were the choice for Bat Girl. You never heard about that?

Oh, that's nice. No, somebody told me I was in talks for it. Oh, congrats. Oh, no. If people are saying, that's nice. Thanks, everyone. No, I'm not. No, I'm not.

I just want to do really good things. Yeah. Why limit yourself? Yeah, and I am also aware of, you know, doing too much. I'm really happy. Phelia's coming out and the Star Wars is coming out late this year.

Then Keroswalkins coming out. I just don't want to like flood things because people get sick of people, you know? I don't want to be that person. Everyone's like, oh, in another film when everything comes out too close together. Well, the good thing is you've got some downtime now. You've got 78 hours or so of Game of Thrones.

I know that because I actually also... It's about that. Maybe with the new season, it's probably 85 or so, I want to say. I could be wrong. Oh, my Lord. I did it over a few months, only a couple months ago because I wanted to catch up for the last few episodes. So I know your predicament.

It's going to be a lot for you, Daisy. It is a lot. It is a lot. I also find it weirdly love going to cinemas so much. Find it so easy to focus. I find it hard to focus at home. Same. It's the nature of the beast now.

You're like, I could do the washing up. The washing machine goes, you go, I could hang out the washing. I also, I find I'm not exactly what you just said. I'm not a good audience at home. I literally, and this is really sad, I would literally read the Wikipedia entry. on the Game of Thrones episode as I was watching and be like, oh, that's what's happening now.

I'm very slow on that tape. See, I would do things like, be like, oh, I wonder what, you know, Sophie Turner's doing with, I wonder if they got married yet. Google. Oh, you're really not good at suspending your disbelief. You're literally talking about...

Oh, yeah, no. I'm literally like, did Sophie Turner and JoJo get married yet? Then I Google it. I think she's just fabulous. I saw her on Graham Norton. She is really funny. Having gone to see the Spice Girls

yet? Do you know I didn't? I didn't. I did have a bit. But I went to see Fleetwood Mac that week, which was really amazing. The one issue I really had was Christine McVagent sing songbird. And I was like, guys, come on. Like, love Stevie Nix. Love all of them. Yeah. But just let her have her moment. I really wanted her to sing it. Do you have any time here in New York to see theater or are just in and out? I was going to go see Hades Town yesterday. It's really good. But I saw it Twice in London. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, because my friend was one of the, one of the fates. So I went to go see it, and I loved it so much. I went back again, and then I was going to see yesterday, and it's just my time is too brief. And I also imagine it's going to be on later on this year. Yeah, it'll be around for a bit. It's going to stay. You should stick around for a few days.

I'm going to see Hugh Jackman's arena show. Are you? It's going to be amazing. I think he's already come to the UK. He did, I think, a couple weeks ago. He just really has done it all. He's the best. Have you ever met?

I mean, he's like Keanu. He's like the sweetest, nicest man on the planet. No one has a bad word to say about him. No. We need more of those. His agent, I think, looks after Nick Jonas, and he came on to set, and he was saying, he was like, you know, he cues for lunch. He doesn't have to, but he does.

And I was like, Hugh. Oh, Hugh. Keanu. Maybe it's just you endings. There you go. So we're going to see you in John Wickford. We're going to see you. I'm not kidding.

I said to my agent, I was like, Hilda. How's about John McFour? And she goes, okay. I'll see what I can do. Back girl, chaos walking. You got a lot on your plate. I loved John Wick 3. And I'm not big into violence.

I just thought it was phenomenal. If you're going to have excessive crazy violence, that's the way to do it. That's the way to do it. Also, have Hallie Berry, have two killer dogs. That was the most genius thing. Having him riding through New York on a horse, genius. Angelica Houston, genius. There's no more, there's no film I'm more excited for it besides Star Wars than

Bill and Ted 3. I'm like, I grew up. I mean, I'm a bit older than you. I grew up with those movies. So the fact that they're in production on Bill and Ted 3 is blowing my mind. Have you seen Book Smart? That's pretty great.

Loved it. Yeah. I actually think it's a great year for film. Yeah. There was like a moment where I think, because I was part of the academy and it was the first time I got all the screeners. And I was like, oh, you can actually get a lot

when you feel like you have to do it for work. Right. But love just that thing of when people aren't like trying to win awards and stuff. And films are just coming out because they're great and it's the moment for them. And there's no pressure. Just enjoy.

book smart deserved a little bit more of an audience hopefully throughout the year people will come back to it i think it they will yeah i think it'll be massive on the old yeah um on demand yes is that what they call when you say it it sounds more classy than i than if i say on demand on demand have you done an american accent you had an afil no no well i sort of did an only yesterday but it was vague and then dev petel had an english accent and i was like why have i done a terrible american accent um no chaos i thought I was going to be American and then Doug wanted me English. There was something I was supposed to be doing this year called Daddyo, which would have been American. I don't think that's happening right now.

The time is a coming. I think so. Look, you noticed my horrible Donald Gleason sketch script. Yeah. I'm going to enlist you at some point to do with stupid shenanigans with me. Okay. All right. Thank you.

And we'll get tattoos. We'll do weird accents. Whatever you want, Daisy. Look at this board. How much insanity is here? Tom Hiddleston. Oh. genius I just saw his play in London

betrayal oh it was meant to be great it's great missed it really great oh it's time to watch a lot of theatre and Game of Thrones and maybe mix it up with some flea bag something a little lighter oh no I saw fleabag great easy watch so killing Eve season two so good yeah yeah no I'll be mixing it out

I will keep you posted of how I think Game of Thrones is gonna go okay this is a new this is a new segment on the podcast days you will call in every week to be like, okay, here's now what I'm thinking. What I think's going to happen? I'm in. John Snur. Bastid John Snur.

And I also know there's a person called the Three-Eard Raven or the One-Eid Raven. Because I'm pretty sure he was in, that was played by the legendary actor, no? Wait, that's... There was someone who was legendary in the Game Thrones that was in Star Wars episode seven

who Kylo Ren cut down. What was his name? I am so lost. I thought that was the kid. Isn't that Isaac Kempstead? Oh, okay. Well, there's an older man in it. Uh-huh.

Who is? Oh, the crow? Something. My God. It's been a long day. Two people that barely know anything about Game of Thrones talking to each other. That's the new podcast.

Trying to figure it out. The Voice of Happy Second Fuse, signing off. Daisy, thanks for coming by. Thank you for having me. Everybody go check out Ophelia. Thank you. It needs to love.

It's not like Star Wars or it's on autopilot, guys. I know. Please. Come on. Go see a great film. There you go. You like Game of Thrones.

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