Happy Sad Confused - Daisy Ridley, Vol. IV

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

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because staying informed shouldn't feel overwhelming. I am a Harry Potter fan, but I was like, oh my God, of course, this is my childhood. I used to, I'm sure I've told you this, but I used to because we got the books sent out because you had to queue for hours at the bookshop. I used to sit on the bottom step and wait for the post to arrive for the new.

Harry Potter. I was so thrilled and I love the movie so much. So the Warner Brothers tour is exceptional. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. I'm Josh Horowitz. And today on Happy, Sad, Confused, Daisy Ridley is a very busy lady. She's out with her third film of the year, which may mean she's a little tired, but selfishly, I'm happy because audiences get three great movies. The latest one is fantastic. It is Magpie. Not only is she the star produced her. The story began with her and she is back on the podcast where she belongs always. Welcome back. Daisy, it's good to see you. Thanks, George. Good to see you. Here we go again. But talk to me first. Like, okay, you're in the middle of the press run on this. Every press tour is unique in its own

way. What's been the distinguishing characteristic thus far in the magpie run? The distinguishing characteristic is the response is really great. I mean, not that it hasn't been before, but I think it's so personal and it's quite a vulnerable feeling being so involved. There's no remove in that way that often there is. Often you go, okay, I'm in this film and I'm very part of it being made, but then I go back and I don't have to think about all those other things. And in this case, I don't do that. Um, so, you know, you hope that the thing that we care so much about and we love so much, um, resonates with people. And so far, it's, it's been amazing.

It's also, and like, I, you know, I hit you up after I saw it. And I hope you don't think I'm a fucked up individual because I said, yeah, I, I, this was fun for, I mean, it's a lot of things. And I think that's kind of one of the beauty of, beauties of this film is I think it can be certainly interpreted different ways. It can be viewed in different ways. Is this a me problem that I called it fun? No, that was really what we set out to do. We really wanted to make a film, the sort of film that Tom and I love,

and we have really similar taste in films anyway, and really wide-ranging interests in film. So as we were making this, we really wanted to take the audience on a ride, and we really wanted people to have a fun experience. And of course, the fun comes because I think he layered the script so beautifully and built the character so beautifully that you really care.

You're coming into something figuring out what is going on and what's seen and what's not seen and how we're perceiving things. And yeah, I mean, all of that credit is to Tom, but we really wanted to make a film that at the end had people, you know, shouting. Well, it is one of those things, again, we're going to dance around this,

but like, it's the best thrillers I find are about kind of perspective and figuring out like what's true and what's not and is the narrator reliable or not and and there's a lot of fun to be had with this in this genre um as I understand that the initial idea you had was carried through but it was a different perspective right yeah it was the initial idea I had was um I was in Canada shooting something and it was um proper lockdown time so it was was, I felt you're either at work with hundreds of people and it's amazing or really alone. And those two, that seesaw was quite difficult to navigate.

And Joey, that played my little girl in The Marsh King's daughter, was so amazing, so, so amazing. And I remember thinking, if I didn't have a stable home life, of course, at that time I was like, whoa, and it was such a difficult time for so many people. but I knew at the end of the job I was going back to my home and stability and I was thinking about the very intensive relationships that are formed on set very quickly and if one didn't have such a bedrock what that might be someone not even just an actor but anyone that's of on the road or going somewhere for a job what that and the romanticism of a film set and

the intimacies of that so the original idea was actually an actress that loves the little girl playing her daughter so much that she tries to infiltrate the family. So that was the initial breadcrumb. And I landed and told Tom that and he started working on it. And after a little while, he just said, I'm really drawn to the woman at home and the woman who's not going to set and not having this amazing experience of this film being made and the relationships and the intoxication of what that feels like, all can feel like. So he really went down that route. And of course, we get to see that the film within the film, which we really want to do to and honour the excitement

that it feels to be on set. But it was really Tom that was much more drawn to what the mum at home was going through. And sort of feeling like the other woman in a maternal way, if your child who is really the light of your life is calling someone else mum at work, even if they know it's not true, that is so trippy. And Joey, who I'd worked with,

knew that I wasn't her mum. Of course, but she's six. she's a child and how bonkers that can be, you know. And so you referenced Tom, obviously your husband who wrote the screenplay of this. I could see like a scenario where he plays the other part of the couple here. Was that ever discussed? Yeah, we talked about it at the beginning.

But it's, I mean, it's already so intimate that the two of us together. And already I can imagine people watching it going, Are they okay? So it felt like potentially a step too far. But actually Tom's long-time friends with Shaz. So when we were talking about who it might be, we knew we needed someone with all the charisma and warmth

that you could imagine why Annette had stayed in the marriage. And you can see why Alicia on set would feel comforted by him, but also someone that can then really take you on a journey and show something quite different as the film progresses. I mean, you know there's this endless fascination with, couples that work together and let alone make a film about a couple going through horrible shit.

I mean, I guess it takes a secure, happy couple to make a film about a toxic couple, hopefully. Hopefully. I mean, we're good. We're good. It's also funny because my brother and sister and Laura are called Ben and Annette.

And we said, and it was just something that Tom was using at the time and we said, how do you feel about being, you know, the character names? And it's funny, even today my sister and Loranette sent sent a picture she has my women's health and she circled Annette and we kept saying, are you sure? They were like

yeah, yeah, yeah. We were like, are you sure? It's not a happy couple. They said, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the trailer came out and they were like, oh, okay. So it's a real family. So what is the handbook if you were writing one for a couple working together on a film to make sure it works and make sure it doesn't cross weird boundaries

and it's healthy and fun and sustainable? I think First things first, I mean, if you don't agree on, if you don't like the same sorts of things, might not work. But I think I have such respect for Tom's writing and he has, oh, it's so weird to say it from this way around because it's weird to say it about myself, but he loves my work. So I think when there's such appreciation on both sides for the person's job in that moment and in that moment. that capacity that makes things great and also he was on set doing based on a true story in LA when we were filming. So he wasn't on set, which I think was amazing because I think I would have felt more inhibited if he was there. And it was also great because we all knew

on set. It felt really great as we were filming. But it was fantastic to have the perspective of someone who wasn't there, watching the dailies and saying, oh my God, this is exactly what we were talking about. So that I would say was really helpful in this world too. So you talk about sharing similar tastes. Like what were the reference points you guys were going back and forth on? Did you introduce each other to any any films in the course of talking about this? Well, one film that really struck a chord a few years ago was Tully with Charlize Theron. Oh, so good. Always loved. And then the series homecoming with Julia Roberts and the way that was on that very oppressive camera. and so they were the two that we were taught

and gone girl and so there were a few that we were talking about and then when Sam Yates came on and then Laura Bellingham came on our amazing DP and Sam's our director their big references were Hitchcock and John Demi and the real perspective of how Annette is viewing the world and how the world is viewing Annette

so particularly that first scene with Richard and suddenly it's so claustrophobic because Annette feels so vulnerable and so exposed but, you know, the rest of the world is not doing that. And we did Zoom things. So the half, the first half of the film, the Zooms are feeling intrusive. And then we're around. So, I mean, so much of the stylistic tone was Sam and Laura.

In some ways, it recalled for me, like, I grew up in 90s heyday of thrillers. And I really enjoyed, like, films from, like, I think of malice. I don't know if you've ever seen that one. Oh, you should check this one. A great one. And actually some comps I can see in yours. And Ken Brana's Dead Again is one of my all-time. Have you seen that one?

Yes. And that was actually mentioned too. Yeah. So good. So yeah. I mean, I do think it's like it clearly has a number of different elements going there. I'm curious, like once you're on set, so you're wearing the producer hat in a different way than you did on sometimes I think about dying.

You talked to me about that one. And you were saying that was kind of like, I don't know, there was an evolution and kind of your role as a producer. was obviously like you were in the trenches. So was there a demarcation point though on set? Because you obviously have a hell of a job to do on set. So how did you manage that? Well, I, we got a crew and a car that we really trusted. That was everything.

I flew back from Sundance the day before we started filming. I was like, what have I done? But I knew when I was gone that everything was under. control. And I produced this alongside Kate Solomon, who is amazing. And so I, you know, very trusting of all the heads of department that were there. And certainly coming into it, I did not watch playback and I did not watch rushes. That was something. I was very in the edit, but on the day, there was no way I could have watched myself each day. So trusting that Sam and Sam was getting what he needed. And it's such a,

weird disassociative thing. It was like a time vortex and like I was looking at myself. And then it got to the point where on screen, I don't really feel like it's me anymore. It was really, really strange. But also, because I had been, I have been involved in the edit, not as much, but in some ways on other films, I feel like I have a healthy understanding of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts. And a lot of the time, it really is. Okay. what's the best take for the story that we're trying to tell. So in that way, it was doable, because I've seen the film so many times.

And it's also quite strange seeing it and feeling quite different things about my own character that I played, which is quite an odd thing, because sometimes I think, ooh, Annette. And sometimes I'm like, oh, Annette. It's a really strange thing. Even describing it, the whole thing is very, very meta.

Well, not to mention for anybody even that doesn't have anything to do with the movie, it's going to be a film that rewards a second viewing too. It's going to be a fun second watch. Have there been films that jumped to mind that changed for you the second time you saw them or have you revisited them years later as an adult versus a kid or? On second viewing. Strangely, I watch Love Actually every year. And even last year, there were things I noticed that I had.

hadn't noticed before, like when Thomas Brody Sankster calls Liam Nees and Dad, and I was like, oh my God. So there were times that I hadn't noticed that. So I really love watching things on second. I really love the second go around. Well, there's also the re-evaluation of Andrew Lincoln's character, obviously, that's happened in years since. Yeah.

Enough, enough now, what a line. Sorry, I interrupted you. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, no, that's all right. This was also certainly something that we wanted people on. second viewing to think, okay. And we didn't cheat. We wanted to make sure that we were honoring timelines and storylines and which we absolutely did do. So you referenced this earlier. I want to return to kind of like, I'm always fascinated by the environment on set, that kind of

circus atmosphere that like only happens for a couple months, six weeks, six months, whatever it is, and you form this crazy family that you're super intimate and will never replicate necessarily again. I mean, and I'm always fascinated by those early experiences for actors when maybe they think they're going to be lifelong best friends with everybody they've worked with on that set. And then they start, it starts those on them, oh, shit, this is just, I might keep some of these folks in my life, but it's, I'm going on to off to the next circus. Do you remember that kind of early in the career, kind of like understanding?

this is precious, this is happening now, but I leave this behind them and then I go back to real life. I do remember, yeah, finishing the first Star Wars film when you've been with people every day for six, seven months, and you've really seen the people at work

more than you've seen your own family. I remember being so blue after the first one was done because there's so much space all of a sudden and it's such a, and particularly in a job, I mean, as you well know, when you don't have a set schedule all the time, that when you do have one, it's so comforting.

So seeing the same face at the same time, speaking to the same people at the same moment of the day, there's something so wonderful about a schedule, really, in amongst all of the busyness. And I remember the first time it was over, not only did I miss everyone, but I sort of missed the structure of it and how, you know, how you like time your day, basically. It's also this glorious excuse to, like, escape responsibility. like, oh, I'm on set for the next three months and, like, I'll see you in three months, family, friends. It's kind of like a bad cop-out,

but it's, I know actors say that, that sometimes it's like, I go away and then I come back to the laundry in real life. Well, it's weird, because I love coming back to the real life on weekends. And I think it's that strange thing of the weekend time. I would imagine if we finished on the Friday, the weekend would have been fine, and then the Monday would have been.

Right. Like, what is going on? But yeah, it becomes more, and I remember people that were more experienced than me telling me that it was going to be a strange feeling. Yeah, and actually someone I worked with last year, it was his first big writing gig on a film. And I did remember warning him

that it would be a really strange thing when we rapped. And we're, of course, great friends, but it's, I think, just the intimacy of those sets and how, yeah, those bonds that are built so quickly. What was your rap speech on this better than your one at the end of Star Wars? Your blubbering mess on Star Wars? I don't know if that footage was ever shown, you know. You described it to me.

I don't think I've ever seen it, yeah. I've never seen it. And I mean, my rap. You kept it together this time? Yeah. Yeah, we had a little drink thing in a ping pong club. And we said a little thank you. But it's also one of those things.

I'm a real processor. It takes me a while to process the things. So I think, and it was, of course, after the fact you think about all the things you should have said. So I remember at the rap party saying what I hoped were adequate words. And then thinking, it just doesn't feel adequate when you, and I think this film really is built on love and relationships in that people have really helped us along the way, really. I mean, you doing this, but people doing Q&As for us. Just like from start to finish, the producers on sometimes I think about dying were helping me figure out financing because that was something I didn't know.

And then our facilities, the head of the facilities is married to someone I had worked with and I asked if they were, there were so many people have been so, so good to us. And what we achieved was done so in a short amount of time and people really, really had to hustle to get that to happen. So it's, I don't honestly know that I'll ever adequately be able to, to thank people for it because it's really been, yeah, it's really been an amazing, amazing experience of people really being good to each other. And also I really, really wanted, because people were working so hard, more so than

ever you really want to honor people's work on the screen and you want people to So yeah, I was fucking part of that. Yeah. Well, also, I don't know what your budget was, how many shooting days, but I can't imagine it was gigantic, but what's on the screen is a very accomplished piece of work. It's an impressive job all room. Yeah, it's down to people who are phenomenal at their jobs coming on board

and being incredibly gung-ho to shoot many pages a day and get things done. And yeah, so the cast and crew on this big, Big love. So you've obviously been producing a lot lately. All three films, I think, this past year you were a producer on, as I understand it. How much of that is born out of, you know, starting to, you know, want to try new things and how much of it is born out of experiences in the past where it would have been nice to have a seat at the table and had more of a voice in the production?

I really feel like I've always had a voice and certainly starting filming at 21 on a big old film where it's not necessarily, now I know it's not necessarily the case, the experience I had, but feeling separated with and feeling heard and understood and seen. It's something that was so intrinsically part of everything that I never questioned that. So actually, I was always given a seat at the table before I knew what that seat was. Right. So that's something that I've always really loved. I've really loved to be, to collaborate and have conversations.

about things and feelings and so sometimes I think about dying, that came because I read the script early and was there sort of when the financing was being put together. But again, when you trust the people that you're working with, you just go, oh, this is amazing and can concentrate on the performance and let all the grown-ups do the grown-ups thing while you're doing that. And young women in the sea, I was already given that seat at the table, but it was wonderful to have the credit after that. But it was funny

because I did this film We Buried the Dead this year with Zach Kilditch directing. And I remember coming to set and I was like, guys, I'm not producing on this one.

I'm just going to sit down. You give me my lines. I'll do lines and I'll do it. Give me the axe. Tell me where to go. Give me the axe and tell the witch zombie to run away from.

And literally every morning I was like, Zach just had a thought. So now I'm, like a control enthusiast. Control enthusiast, not a control freak. She's a control enthusiast. Control enthusiast.

And I feel like in terms of the editing of it too, I like to think I have a good understanding of what the whole might be. And so really I have nine times out of ten felt incredibly like I'm at the table. I'm somewhat surprised we haven't seen you do a television series yet everybody's doing it or have you been tempted? Is it just not seeing the right project?

I've tried. Okay. Yeah, I've tried. There are a few things that were supposed to happen and didn't. Do we need to manifest, do I manifest the White Lotus for you? The bear, do you need a true detective?

What do you want? What are you looking for? The things that I am hoping eventually will come to fruition are fantastic. And I actually read a writer that I had worked with previously on something else. He sent me the first episode of something that he's written that is phenomenal. And that is quite early days. But there are some real, I mean, I'd love to do TV.

I'd really love to. What have you been watching, movie or TV-wise? TV-wise, obviously just finished Only Mudders in the building and Slow Horses. Hugo weaving Legend Have you ever worked with Hugo? What a presence What a yeah

What a presence Also how does his face fit so well everything He's got a good face He's got a good mug Elf Yeah Love slow horses Love only medicine the building

And just started Fargo Because I've been meaning to see it The Juno Temple And I've downloaded a true detective. I'm quite, when, when we are,

we're home, I'm really looking forward to some really good stuff. And then cinema-wise, of course, desperate to see, Anora, Amelia Perez,

want to see Smile too, want to see Joker too, all of the things that I've missed over the last few weeks. I'm really looking forward to seeing. Current, current actors on the short list

that you're obsessed with. I think you, I think you could respond this in my Sersha interview. You're in, I mean, who doesn't love Sersia? Come on.

But just like the whole person. I know, I know. Just to like, honestly, your guys interview. I was like, I could literally listen to her talk for 300 hours. What an actress, what a person. Oh my God. Julia Roberts, always there, always there. Someone I love in the UK, Nicola Walker.

Amazing. I mean, there were so many phenomenal people, so many. Have you met? your Star Wars mom yet? Have you broken bread with Jody Comer? Well, Tom just did a film with her. Yeah, so he's in Ken's new film. So it's quite funny.

So Tom did a film with Billy Howell. So he's worked with my Star Wars dad. And then he did a film with Jody. It's a Star Wars mom. We met once on set super briefly. And I remember she smelled really nice. I don't know what perfect she was very much. I was like, oh my God.

And I was really in awe, really, I think I was a bumbling fool. But Tom just had an amazing experience with her. And I'm, because I asked him not to tell me what the film is about. So I'm really looking forward to seeing that film. Oh, very cool. I think you just missed your buddy John Boyega. He was in town. I know.

Yeah, he's gone. I think he's gone. Yeah. Time to see Adam Drivers play while you're here or no? Is he in a play right now? Yeah, he's no going to play here. Cancel your plans. What's he doing here?

I think it's a new play. Actually, I haven't seen it yet. I need to, I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah. No, I was like, should I invite Adam to our opening night? I don't have time to see him. Unfortunately, we'd love to and very excited about the news, the confirmation of Beef Season 2. Yes, that cast isn't the same.

That's so good, so good. Oscar Carey, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still have never had the extensive Adam Driver conversation. You're going to have to help me out with that at some point. Has he ever sent you a, has he ever sent you? an emoji? Is he a texter? I want to just get the vibe of Adam Driver because he's an enigma to me. We haven't, we haven't spoken in a little time, but I never received an emoji.

Least surprising news ever. Yeah, yeah. Never received. He had been to my parents' house for dinner. Okay. He was a delightful dinner guest. I'm sure. But not an emojia. Maybe he is now. Maybe he's changed. Now he sends gifts. Mifs, memes, he loves it all. A lighthearted lull. Just to ask, because I have to, no Star Wars updates. We're still just waiting for news, but you're ready, you're waiting when the script comes, the script comes, essentially. We're waiting for imminent news, I would say.

Okay, this is good. There's a date you have in your mind of when you're going to see something, maybe? I might have already seen something. Oh, okay, okay. There might be a date of when we're, yeah, the next stages. Okay, we like that. Progress, we like that. Slow and steady.

As long as you guys get it right, take your time. I'm patient. Exactly. We're all good. We're just out in a great movie. I can't imagine what it's like for you because when I tweet or say something about Star Wars, I get scared for a reaction. Like I can say anything and people make something of it.

And you're Daisy Riddle, you're Ray. It's funny because I've never felt like, oh my God, I've said too much. But sometimes I say something that honestly I feel like is completely innocent. And then there's a, I mean, this is a funny thing that's actually isn't Star Wars related, but it's so funny, the internet thing. My mom texts me a few weeks ago. And she goes, is there something you haven't told me? I said, what are you talking about?

And she sent a screenshot of a Facebook. Who still posts? I don't know anyone that still posts on Facebook. a Facebook post talking about the Goonies too and that I was in it and I was like, Mom, do you not think can't tell you? And she goes, yeah, yeah, no, I did think that you would. I was like, I tell you, and the goonies too,

I would obviously tell you more than ever. Now I want your mom's Facebook page to manifest something, yeah. If your mom, and also she's not even on Facebook, someone had sent her a screenshot. I was like, so even my own mom, believes the internet so you know we all believe what that being said you are starting in goodies too we can confirm that right now with stephen spilberg director amazing amazing but you know it just just to clarify because we've talked many times over the years about the online stuff and you were

on instagram you went away you're back and now you've kind of figured it out um you don't get hate in person it's just like because nobody ever has no one would ever say something to somebody in person generally it's just this horrible anonymity of social media that people do the, say the things they do on. No, do you? People are very, I mean, people are pretty, um, people are honest. I mean, people say,

I think people say things to actors that generally, if you said it to them about their job, they'd go, ooh, it's personal. Right. Yeah, your last time on the IT support team, it was kind of middling. Exactly. I mean, generally good job, but moments. So that, that is always, um,

and to be fair, doesn't happen often but when it does it's like oh um but um generally i do not read anything on the internet right i just don't because it would i mean i'm sure i'm sure there's stuff that i would never want to read so it's just something i don't partake in at all but people yeah i just i i really like to believe in the best of humanity and i really like to believe that we're all good underneath and everyone wants the best for each other underneath um and also i honestly try not to give too much air time, even, I mean, obviously it's hard to not worry about how people are receiving one's work. But I try not to give it too much air time because ultimately I

would say that most people are good and we should try and give that their air time. Yeah, so I'm telling you is I bury my head in the sand. No, this is the right attitude. Let's focus on that. This is the hardest question of the day. Wizarding World or Galaxy's Edge, which do you prefer? Oh my God, John. How did she answer that? There's no answer. Sophie's choice.

Look, I'm going to have to say Galaxy's Edge, of course, but I did the Warner Brothers tour. I'm actually overdue going because I went a few years ago, and it's time to revisit. And it was so magical. Have you been to the UK one? No, I need to. It is. Amazing. And it's funny because I always like, I am a Harry Potter fan, but I was like, oh my God, of course, this is, this is my childhood. I used to, I'm sure I've told you this, but I used to because we got the books sent out because you had to queue for hours at the bookshop. I used to sit on the bottom step and wait for the post to arrive for the new Harry Potter. I was so thrilled and I love the movie so much. So the Warner Brothers tour is exceptional. So is that the studio tour or, oh, that's what I need to do, the Leavesden thing?

And you up in front of the broomstick and it comes up and you go to all theanders. Oh my God, it's so good. Speaking of stuff in the UK, by now, you know the difference between me and Allie Plum, right? You know we're two different people. I just want to make sure. Brilliant. Of course. That is brilliant.

He's younger and talks funny. That's the biggest difference between the two of us. He talks funny. Yeah, yeah. Since you've answered the happy, say I confused profoundly random questions before, I have a few new ones to throw at you before I let you go. Okay. What's the strangest thing, most extreme length you've gone to prepare for a role? Can you think of some unusual, or it could be for an audition?

In retrospect, that was kind of a strange thing or an extreme thing I did. Interesting. Oh, I mean, I got my friend to French plait my hair for the Star Wars audition, which wasn't extreme. I just remember thinking, that might be good. And then actually, I was sent away. I like to be early. To me, on time, it's late. I really like to be early to everything.

And I was so early that I was sent away. They literally said, go away and come back at your time. This is crazy. You can't wait here for an hour. Otherwise, I don't know if I've gone to too many extremes, I would say. I mean, sometimes it's justified. I mean, young woman in the sea, you have to put the training in. That's not an extreme.

That's just part of the job. that's Yeah, and there are some things that I try not to think too much about until I'm there because I don't like open water and that was something I knew

I had to overcome but I just thought I'll do it when I get there and Martin Campbell's film cleaner that I made last year I also don't like heights so that was something that playing a window cleaner

not ideal and I remember thinking I trained as much as possible and tried to pretend that I wasn't going to have to be hoisted up at any point and then sort of overcame that on the day.

Is there a film of yours for any reason you wish you could have a do-over at? Performance, experience, you wouldn't with a different attitude or something? No. I would say there are always things that you think, but isn't that the benefit of hindsight? Sure.

And I feel like everything means something, whether it's work-wise, whether it's figuring out how many takes you have in you and there's nothing left in the tank sort of thing. Yeah, so there are, yeah, there are films that have been tricky emotionally to actually get through the shoot. But, yeah, it feels like they're probably, it was probably all for a reason. Right.

Do you have a recurring dream or night? that's popped up in your life? A recurring dream or a nightmare? Oh, interesting. I weirdly do have one. God. That is, I'm on my parents' road and I can see the doors open

and light spilling out, but I can't get there. Yeah. What does that? Need to get my psychiatry degree to get back to you on them. Any union specialist self. Exactly. Yeah.

And finally, is there a wine? of yours that you will never forget from a film. It was just so hard to like internalize gobbledy gook from Star Wars. That was just so like, really? What are we saying this? Like what on your death bed are you going to remember? What one?

Okay. I'm going to shout out my friend Richard whose birthday was yesterday actually. So he came to his another Star Wars one. He came to and I remember the line because he takes a piss out of me for it. He came to set one day and I had never had a set

visit before so it was all very exciting and and there was a line i said that i don't actually think made it into the film and it was it's the map it's the whole map and he rinses the shit out of me it'll literally times go it's the map it's the whole map um that that i remember for honestly the earnestness for which i was i was performing it and his uh perception of of that it works in every occasion that's the map the whole map Exactly. It's so mad. Amazing.

All right. We spread the good word today. You said before, like, it's fun to talk about the big stuff that has the whole marketing push behind it, but I always love catching up with the folks that I know and love that do the passion projects. And this one clearly is.

And the great news is it's not only a passion project. It works. It's a great piece of work. Everybody should check out Magpie, support Daisy and great filmmaking. Good luck on the public. City Tour, and I'll see you on the next one. You know I'm here for you. Thank you so much, Josh.

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