Happy Sad Confused - Daniel Radcliffe, Vol. V

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

Sure he'll always be Harry Potter to some but for those that really know, Daniel Radcliffe is a theater beast -- with nearly 20 years of experience now on stage, a Tony award on his mantle, and consistently daring and impressive performances on his resume. He joins Josh in a live recording at the 92nd Street Y to chat about all of it including his latest one person show (kind of) EVERY BRILLIANT THING, mixing it up with Tracy Morgan in THE FALL & RISE OF REGGIE DINKINS, and to finally once and for all rank the Harry Potter films. SUPPORT THE SHOW BY SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS! Quince -- Go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince.com/HAPPYSAD ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for free shipping and 365-day returns. Limited Time Offer–Get Huel today with my exclusive offer of 15% OFF online with my code happy15 at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://huel.com/happy15.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ New Customers Only. Thank you to Huel for partnering and supporting our show! UPCOMING EVENTS! 4/16 -- BEEF (Oscar Isaac, Carey Mulligan, Charles Melton) in NY -- ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tickets here⁠⁠⁠⁠ 5/5 -- Stanley Tucci in NY -- ⁠⁠⁠⁠Tickets here⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who's the last actor you were mistaken for? Come on. Elijah Wood, every time. Every time from a car, from people shouting. Like, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I did sign a copy of Lord of the Rings at Stage Door the other day. It was great. Yeah. Prepare your ears, humans.

Happy, sad, confused begins now. Hey, guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Today on the show, Daniel Radcliffe joins us. Yes, he's Harry Potter, but he is also a Broadway All-Star from Equist to Merrily. roll along where he earned a Tony to his latest one-person show, Every Brilliant Thing. Hey, guys, thanks as always for joining us on the podcast for enjoying this on YouTube on Spotify. However you're enjoying it, I appreciate you guys.

If you've not subscribed yet, get with the program. Two episodes a week, 700 plus episodes. Every actor and filmmaker worth their stripe pretty much has strolled by the happy, sad, confused microphone, I'm privileged to say, including Daniel Radcliffe, making his Fifth appearance. Number five today. Yes, you know what that means if you're a diehard, happy,

confused listener or viewer. He gets a pre-hat. He got the hat. You'll see if you're watching the video towards the end of this. Dan joined the five-timers club. A big special event at 92nd Street Y, a fun one talking about his theater career,

Harry Potter, his TV show with Tracy Morgan, and so much more. Okay, before we get to Dan, though, as always, some quick reminders. All the updates I'm going to give you as always are on our Patreon, patreon.com slash happy, say I confused. That's where you get the discount codes, the early access, the bonus materials. You can ask guests questions.

Patreon.com slash happy, say I confused and get a load at some of these live events coming up. Well, we have the cast of beef coming up in just a few days in New York City. All this information, by the way, is in the show notes. That includes Carrie Mulligan, Oscar Isaac, Charles Melton. This show is fantastic. Season two of Beef. We're screening two episodes. We're chatting with all three of them and more from the cast and the creators.

Also, events coming up with Stanley Tucci, May 5th, with Billy Eichner, May 17th, with Marvel Star that I can't announce yet on May 3rd. But mark the calendar. Someone you'll want to see me talk to. Lots of events and more to come. As always, like I said, all the discount codes and early access to all these events are on our Patreon. Patreon. dot com slash happy say I confused or in our show notes the listings are there okay back to the main event it is daniel radcliffe and what can i say about daniel radcliffe except that he's a gem i've said

it before i'll say it again there is he is the creme de la crem of professionalism of kindness of a normal person that should not be normal in this industry i don't know how it happened good parenting luck of the draw dan is the best he really is considering that he was and is and always will be to many Harry Potter, such a good head on his shoulders and to see what he's accomplished in his career. Amazing. If you listen or watch the podcast, you know we just had Tom Felton on, so we had a nice conversation about all things Potter and Broadway. And ironically, yes, Tom Felton's on Broadway. Dan Radcliffe is on Broadway. This show, every brilliant thing is if you get a chance to be in New York the next month and a half towards the

end of Dan's run, check this out. It's an amazing piece of work. It is a one-per- show about depression, about suicide to a degree, and I know that's not selling it hard, but this is a joyous show. This is a funny show. And it is a very interactive show. You, if you come to the theater, come early because you will see Dan Ratcliffe running around like a maniac enlisting the audience to be his cohorts in this show for half an hour prior to it. It's pretty unique, pretty special. I highly recommend it. I also highly recommend If you haven't checked it out already, the Fall and Rise of Reggie Dinkins, which if you love 30 Rock and if you have any sense of humor, you love 30 Rock. This is the same creators, the same folks. Robert Carlock, Sam Means. Very, very funny stuff with Tracy Morgan and Dan Radcliffe. It's currently on NBC and Peacock. Check it out if you haven't already. Yeah, I think that's all I have to say, except this was a fantastic live event. Great energy in New York City at the 90 Second Street Y. Always fun to talk to Dan. I know you guys are going to dig this one without any further ado.

Enjoy me and Daniel Radcliffe, new member of the Happy Second Fused Five Timers Club. Hello, everybody. How's it going? Welcome to the 92nd Street Y, everybody. Yes, yes, thank you. We like a good, enthusiastic afternoon audience. Thank you for being with us today. My name's Josh Horowitz.

I host a podcast called Happy Sick and Fused. And thank you. you knew it or not, you're inside of it right now. This is a very special live taping of the podcast. This gentleman's been on the pot a few times over the years, and he is well worth every conversation. He is an amazing actor. He is a Broadway All-Star. Let's give it up for Daniel Radcliffe in just a second. He's not coming out. Don't worry. But I just want to mention from Equis to how to succeed in business without really trying, to his Tony Award-winning performance in Merrilyly we roll along. And now, this remarkable performance in a very singular production, every brilliant thing.

If you haven't seen it already, get your tickets now. He's in it through mid end of May. Get your tickets now. Trust me, you will not be sorry. Give a warm 90-second Street while welcome to the one and only. It's Daniel Radcliffe, everybody. Thank you. Hello, hello, hello.

He's back. You're like a staple here, man. Yeah, thank you very much. Yeah, thank you for having me back again. Congratulations on all things. We're going to talk a lot. I want to talk a lot about your theater work today because stealthily or not so stealthily, nearly 20 years of work on stage now, starting way back when

2007 was Equis. When you think about the fact that it has been nearly 20 years, the trajectory that you've been on, especially on stage, it must boggle your mind. Was this a game plan at any point? How did this happen, Dan? I mean, I think it was always sort of inevitable that I always wanted to do. do theatre. My mum and dad, like, as growing up, going to the theatre and seeing shows was a huge part of my sort of cultural, like, intake. And my mum and dad were both actors when they were younger, and they had most deep, they'd done a lot of theatre. So it was just part of being an actor,

was doing theatre. I don't think I ever thought that I would get to it so quickly. When, on the second Harry Potter film, so the first actual play I did was prior to Equest, there was one other thing that I had done, which was there was a play in the UK called The Play What I Wrote, which was by these two English comedians called Sean Foley and Hamish McColl, and it was based on Morkman Wise, who were an amazing English comedy double act, who probably nobody here really knows, but look them up, they really are wonderful, and it was sort of a tribute to them, and Mawkeman White had always had celebrities, like, come on the show so they could make fun of them, basically. And they, so when they were doing this show in London, they got people on to

to do it as well. And Ken Branner directed it. He was in the second Harry Potter film at the time. We had just filmed that. And so he asked me to do that, and that was the first time I'd ever done the stage. And then Ken originally directed the workshop of Equus, and Ken was going to direct that.

And then that didn't end up happening, but then Thea Chariot came on and we did it. But yeah, no, the idea that Equus was 20 years ago is truly crazy. Also, the idea that I did that in London when I was 17, crazy. Can we talk about that for a second because that is quite a swing for a young actor, especially given that you're Harry Potter at the time? I mean, what did the producers, the team of Harry Potter make of you doing that? Were they supportive of you doing what you did

every night on stage with a horse? I don't know if they supported those specific actions. But yeah, I think they were, I mean, I honestly don't know. I think at the time I was always told like, everyone's fine with it, don't worry about it, but that could have been just my agent shielding me from what was actually being discussed. I think there was probably a moment of panic at Warner Bros. But then I think they sort of, if there was genuine panic,

it never got back to me. And I think probably Warner Brothers was smart enough to know that sort of any publicity's good publicity. Like, it wasn't like I was, and there was nothing that, you know, it's a very prestigious play. Like it's not, I'm not doing it.

anything that's like damaging the brand in any in any significant way. So yeah, there was, I don't think there was any sort of huge consternation about it. But yeah, and then I remember there was a headline which I have, I have misremembered this because I was, a journalist brought this up in an interview with me at one point and he told me the actual headline and I can't remember exactly what it is, but there was something to, in some paper, there was some headline of like, you know, crash, what's that, the sound of a career coming to a grinding halt. And I remember sort of, I think it genuinely, like,

because I was not going out and looking for copies of the Daily Mail or Daily Express, whatever that was, I think it had been left open on like a table in the canteen of where we were rehearsing. And I saw that and I was like, oh, okay, great. But then I remember looking around the room at Thea Sharrock and Richard Griffiths and all these amazing actors and John Napier and David Hersey like our amazing production and lighting designers and thinking, well, you know,

if I'm screwing up, I could not be screwing up with better people around me. And yeah, and luckily, you know, it wasn't as grow up. And then I got to work with, you know, I loved doing Equest. I love what it started off for me, but truly when I look back on it, the thing that I treasure more than anything else

is being able to have had the relationship I did with Richard Griffiths for as long because he was just such a spectacular and special human. and I'm so glad I got to work with him that deeply. I guess if there is like a secret handbook for any young actor, it's kind of what you just alluded to, is like surround yourself with the best, then you will sponge off of them,

whether you want to or not. It's just going to happen. Absolutely. Like work with great people, work hard and, you know, and also I was lucky enough to, I've met a few of the stranger things kids recently, and I'm very, it's always lovely to meet them and see how great they all are

and how well they're all doing. but like I give the same piece of advice to all of them I was just like do can I swear yeah I like do whatever the fuck you want like you have you have done the thing like you can now like use that you are now like you have the most amazing like jumping off platform and Gaten

you know doing multiple Sondheim shows and like doing the pizza movie with Nick and Bryant like it's like I think that they're just they're making smart choices but they're all like just doing whatever they like and that should be the goal if you've had that kind of a start in your career, now you are free to have fun.

Yeah, I mean, we've had this conversation. This is the Daniel Radcliffe Handbook, if you ever wrote it, is basically like, you had license, you had that rare license. Like, I have security, monetarily, I'm fine for a lot, you, whatever. I can, I can be creative. I can just fly my freak flag.

Yeah, absolutely. And like, no actors are ever in that position. Like, if you, you know, are in the industry, you know that most actors will never have that level of autonomy over their career where you can say, like, I want to do this. and where some things that you do stand a better chance of happening because you're doing them. And that's not a position that any of us will be in forever. But it is a really, you know, while you're in it, just make hay while the sun shines.

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Thanks. A huge leap. As much as Equist was a leap, I mean, singing and dancing like a madman every night in that iconic musical. Getting naked is easy. You just take your clothes off. Anyone could do that. Literally anyone can do that.

Dancing was, I would always say, like, when someone's asked me, like, what's the scariest thing you've done on stage? Like, dancing? 100%. Like, there was a... yeah, I mean, but again, so I sat down like, so one of the weird facts of my life around the time Potter was ending. So like if I, during the last Harry Potter film,

I could essentially tell you, because I knew that how to succeed was happening and I knew that, I knew that woman in black was probably going to happen afterwards and in between those things. I, at some point, at the beginning of the last Harry Potter film, I could tell you what I was doing for the next like three years of my life. and how to succeed. I sat down with Rob Ashford, the director, you know, two years before,

because on Equus, okay, right, I'm remembering this now in real time. Sorry for having to, you have to watch me, figure that this is the answer. Giant therapy session. So when I was doing equest, the first thing I do in the first scene is I come in and I sing showtimes, not showtunes, jingles, advertising jingles.

And so the people that would then, Craig Zaden and Neil Merrin who would then produce how to succeed. They saw me an equest and they said, oh, you can sing. And I mean, I can sing the double mint gum theme tune. I'm not exactly, you know. And so they started pitching things and eventually we landed on how to succeed. I talked to Rob Ashford, the director, and I said to him, I was like, you know, I can sing

okay. I can carry a tune. You know, hopefully the acting will, you know, I feel like fairly confident of that. But like, don't, you know, I will not dance. Like there is no, there is a zero chance that you will get me to dance in this show. And he was like, well, you know, we've got at least 18 months before we even start rehearsals. So let's just start you having dance classes. And I still, I'm not like, I'm not a great dancer, but I can learn choreography.

Like I can, I, it's actually been a real problem in my career recently is because I've done stuff like how to succeed and a couple of like, there's the coming around the mountain thing and miracle workers. There's been a couple of dance moments in my career that have led to people thinking that I can just dance. And it means that when I was doing on the Reggie show, on the Tracy Morgan show that I'm doing at the moment, they just wrote something in about me, like, dancing. And then they sent me the clip of what they wanted me to do, like a week before I was supposed to do it. And I was like, guys, I had 18 months to learn some very, like, but we, you know, we made it happen. But yeah, I just want to put it out there now.

I can't dance. Don't ask me to, if you ask me to dance, give me a lot of notice. You are not being your own best advocate here. I never am. I realize and says they can do everything. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I should lie. But, you know, I look, I both can and I can't.

You know, I'm not going to be, I'm not, I can't do it spontaneously. But yeah, if you give me time, I can get good. I feel like I have to be like, Jonathan and Lindsay on the stage and be like, you can dance, you can sing. Yeah, they are your boosters. They are very, very good hype people. And without them, I do just do a lot of self-deprecating. You know, I'm English. It's just what we do.

It's how we talk. It's how we talk about ourselves. Let us talk a little bit more about Merrily because that was the last time you and I were on the stage together. And Merrily, we roll along, for those of you who saw it. I mean, what a performance, what a production. One you, the Tony. I mean, I know that cast, that production will be always a singular experience for you.

And working with these, like, these, like, Broadway thoroughbreds. Like these, like, Lindsay and Donathan are just, like, made to do this. with a little distance now. I mean, you were loving it and knew how special it was in the moment, but has the experience as looking back at it changed a couple years out? Yeah, I mean, it's just been confirmed by how all of our relationships have sort of carried on after the show. Like, I'm still really, really close with Jonathan and Lindsay. I'm still really close with people like Brian Sears and Leanna, Ray Concepcion, like other members of the cast who I grew, and also like the stage management team from Merrily.

They're all working on every brilliant thing as well. I took all of them with me. you know, I, um, some, I've been very lucky in my career. I've had very, very few jobs that I would term like, you know, bad jobs. But there's, there's, most jobs are just like really, really good jobs. And then occasionally you have one happen that's so sort of formative and huge in your life that it isn't, it becomes lesser job and just like a period of your life that you refer to. Like merrily accounts for like three years between off Broadway and Broadway of my life more or less. And to get to work with those people, to get to do that show

and for it to be received as it was was just so special. And I feel like we kind of all felt like we were in this extraordinary moment in time, even as we were doing it. And it's very rare that you have a sense of that, of like, oh, we're doing something incredibly special and we can all, while doing it, we can all still manage to kind of appreciate that and enjoy that.

And yeah, I, And kind of indirectly, it was why I wanted to do this show with every brilliant thing, because there was something about the freedom of the way I got to act in Merrily, which was I didn't really have to. Like, I loved Jonathan and Lindsay and so many of the other people in the show so much that I didn't really have to, like, manufacture emotion or authenticity. It was just genuinely there every night. And suddenly, I was like, oh, I never want to have to fake emotion again.

Like, I never want to, you know, I just spoiled myself. And so when I read the script for every brilliant thing, I was like, oh, that, this can, because there is like a forced authenticity in it, because it's kind of baked into how the show works. It made me really excited to do that, and it felt like the only thing I sort of could have done after coming off working with Jonathan and Lindsay. And yeah, I just got to see Jonathan again just before he closed in Just in Time and just, just the best, isn't it? I know I'm not in it, but yeah, clap for just in time.

What a show? Just amazing. What's the last rambling voice note you got from Jonathan Groff? What was the subject? I think we've been asking him about how he's doing after not having been doing the show eight times a week. And I do, and I think he's coming to every brilliant thing in the next couple of weeks.

And I already have an audience participation plan for him. So I'm excited about that. All right, let's talk about this really special show. I got a chance to see this the other day. some folks have gotten a chance, hopefully, to see it, yes. I mean, you know, it takes a lot to say, like, I've never seen anything like this on stage. I've never seen anything like this on stage.

Talk to me a little bit about, I mean, you alluded to you a little bit what the appeal was for this, but as the material was presented to you, what did you respond to from a performing perspective, from a subject matter perspective, what got you involved? I mean, it's first and foremost, a deeply moving play. Like, I cried so much as I was.

getting to the end of it the first time and also cried in the middle at things that were not, like there's a sadness to some parts of this play, but there's also such intense joy that this play finds in the world and in life as we sort of find it on a daily basis, that I, there's a, one of the brilliant things on the list, 110, for anyone who cares, is reading something which articulates something that you believe, but you, wow, I'm screwing it up. I don't have to say this one. Somebody in the audience says this. I just say the number.

Reading something which articulates something you believe, but you could never have said so beautifully yourself. And that's what this play does for me. Like, the actors are mostly interpretive. Like, we're not creative. So when you find something that is, that does say something that you want to be a part of saying, it's just a really, really special feeling.

And so I loved the play itself. if it was just a straight play about this character, I'm sure I probably would have been very attracted to doing it. But the thing that, as you alluded to, pushes over the top for me, is just that there isn't anything else. Like, you know, the first set of stage directions says, if the show starts at seven,

the actor is in the house half an hour before meeting people as they come in, handing out list entries for people to shout later and kind of getting to know the audience and cast. the show. And I read that and I was like, wait, what is happening? Like, what is this? And there is something about the relationship that I, as the performer, get to have with the audience that is so special and unique and honestly very stressful before the show starts every night, but then really just the most rewarding and fulfilling thing that I think I've probably ever done. Can I just say, I have never been so stressed for a performer as watching you in a half hour

prior to a show. If you haven't been there, Dan is running around with some assistance trying to find the right key performers. You're really performing with about five actual audience members. For anybody who hasn't had a chance see the show, and thank you so much for the people that have,

there are sort of two levels of audience participation. There's a list which I hand out cards, which have a number and a thing on it. So number one is ice cream. And I give the card to somebody and I say, you know, when I shout one, you shout ice cream. And so there's probably, I'm going to say, like,

75 or 80 of them that we hand out. I probably account for 30, 35 of them being handed out. And then David and Laura, our associate directors, do the rest, and we all kind of work together. And so that's the kind of the basic level of audience participation. There's another couple of fun jobs, like somebody gets to throw confetti, and I stash a chocolate bar with somebody.

And, you know, there's bits and pieces like that, But then there are five people who play really significant characters in the show. And we cast them out of the audience that night. Nobody who, nobody plays those parts who thinks they're going to at the beginning of the night. That is always assigned to somebody who has no idea that they're going to be doing that when they come into the theatre that night. And it's great. And it's so much fun to do.

It is very stressful beforehand as you are finding people. And very often it does always seem to kind of come together in like the love. last five minutes of every pre-show that we find, like, you know, we've been looking for Mrs. Patterson or we've been looking for somebody to play my love interest. That's a uniquely awkward thing to have to find in the audience every night to, like, be approaching. I apologize to Josh. Josh got a panicked voice note from me because after he sat down with his wife in our show, I approached them and I was like, hey, I haven't found anyone yet. Would you mind, like, playing my love interest to his wife with Josh there? And I like, it's just a very

awkward thing to ask people, even though I like, I know Josh, but like, and I could tell his wife was kind of going like, oh, I don't really want to do this, but I feel like I have to, because like my husband has a work relationship with you. And we didn't end up, we didn't end up using you guys at night and it was fine, but I did, I feel really bad. Like, there is parts of the show that are uniquely suited to me, and there are parts of the show that are uniquely, like, speak to the most socially awkward, anxious parts of my brain where every, it sort of feels like you are, you're hosting 900 people every night and you kind of want to make sure that everyone goes away having had a really nice time and I Remember I would be going back after each show going like oh my god. I said this to this person or I said that like

You know I've one of the things I've learned is I am really bad at working out the relationship between two people sitting next to each other Like the amount of people I've gone up to and been like are you a couple and they were like we're mother and son and I'm like oh I'm so sorry So there's been a lot of that And I'll go home and I'll say to Aaron Like, oh, I said this to this person I mistook her mother for somebody's partner Or, you know, I did it.

And then before we opened I said to her, I was like, I think just so you know, because I was coming home talking a lot about it every night, I said, I think after we open, I'm going to be a little bit more settled than a little bit calmer. And she just went down, I've been going to parties with you for 14 years.

This is, and this happens every time we get home. This is not going to change. And indeed, it has not. In terms of also, I mean, so that's one huge aspect of it, that it differentiates it. And you alluded to the other that this is a show about depression and it deals with suicide. It is also a joyous, very funny show that must be reminded of. But I mean, I guess I'm curious, like, does making a show about depression, about suicide, about the subjects that we don't necessarily feel comfortable talking about, I don't know,

does it make it easier to talk about these things for you? Have you reconciled more of your own feelings about these subjects living through it every night after night? I mean, honestly, there's something really beautiful about getting to do this show that, you know, there is catharsis in it for me and an audience every night. There's, it's really, you know, and I am talking to people a lot at stage door or, you know, about their experiences with it, or, you know, there's a couple of moments in the show itself where there's a moment where I talk about, The line is something along the lines of, I'll remember it tonight, I'll get it wrong now, but it's something along the lines of children of depressed parents can actually have a heightened reactivity to stress. I learned recently that growing up in a house and emotionally unavailable or inconsistent parents can actually change the chemistry of the brain. And every night, as I'm looking around, I can see somebody just like nodding.

And it's the sweetest, and it's so sweet and sad and people that there's a line in a Mary Oliver poem called Wild Geese where she says, tell me about despair yours and I will tell you mine. And it does feel like there's this very like real and honest exchange happening between me. And I do think the show is it will affect you differently depending on what you are bringing into it and what your history with these issues are and what your experience of, you know, if you haven't dealt with it yourself, but people in your life, you know, I think there's a wide range of how this show might make you feel. at best there is, I think, genuine catharsis in it for audience members.

And I also appreciate that, like, for some people, the issues are so heavy that there shouldn't be jokes anywhere near them. And I completely sympathize with that point of view. It's just not how I work, I think. And I think this play tries to hold both of those things in a really beautiful balance. And it's also, it's the, you know, the experience. as I have talked to people about the character in the show, his mother is the person in his life

who is most directly dealing with sort of depression and suicide as an issue. And there is also things alluded to about that character that she's incredibly fun at times, and there are great moments with her as well, and that's something that as I've spoken to people, particularly people whose mothers, who have a similar relationship with their mother,

they've really enjoyed that part of the show, that it's appropriately sad at the moments when it should be sad, but there is also a recognition of it's not sad all the time, like sometimes having a crazy parent is really fun. Like, you know, like there are moments when, particularly if that person is bipolar, you know, I'm using the word crazy, obviously very glibly.

But there's like, there are, there is moments when people, you know, it's just, it's complicated. And I think this show tries to sort of factor in all those sides of those relationships in a way that hopefully I think we do a pretty good job of. And in terms of like as much as you're comfortable speaking on, I mean you've spoken before about dealing with depression at times in your life and we all have to certain degrees.

None of us are immune to that. I mean, what have you felt, what have you found has helped you in the years since that you dealt with it in more debilitating way? What's been your... Yeah, I mean, look, I've been very lucky the people I've met in my life at the moment when I've met them, both in terms of, you know, I'm very, very, like I'm quite long-term sort of sobriety from alcohol now, which is drugs and alcohol, which is wonderful. I'm very, very grateful for that. And, you know, I met people at key moments in that who influenced me in dealing with that. And also, like, I think there's something about that one of the most moving parts of the show to me is that there's a moment when I'm talking about my love interest, and I'm talking about my love interest. And I'm talking about.

talking about how well they know me. And there is something about being truly known and understood and seen by another human being that is, you know, it's why love exists. I feel like you can't emphasize like how wonderful that is. And so, you know, I met my partner, Erin 14 years ago.

I think I always add a year accidentally, so I think we're at 14. I wanna say 15, which I think means it's 14. And we've been together for 14 years. And so like she's obviously been a huge part of my happiness. And then, you know, having a child, I will say that there's a moment in the show where I talk about, you know, the idea of like things getting better and keep going because you never know, you know, let the future. I don't say this in the show, but like let the future prove you wrong about what you think it's going to be. And there's something, you know, I was, there have been moments.

in my life in my late teens and early 20s when I was really sad and didn't know and scared and didn't know what the future would hold for me or how I was going to look back on my life and if I could have you know I would never have believed then that I would be experiencing the happiness that I am now with my partner with my son and with my life in general and so I feel like there is something about being in a show which allows me to try and very directly say that to people that is the kind of like honest connection that you is, I don't know, you don't get to do that a lot as an actor in your work, but also, I don't know, particularly as like a person that like people think of as famous.

Like I know that sounds like a weird way of saying that, but like I'm not famous to the people in my life. Like they are aware of it obviously, but like they just know me. And I think that there's something about the idea of being a famous person that puts a huge amount of distance between you and people. and actually half of my energy that I'm expending in my relationships when I meet people is kind of breaking that distance down. And I think this show allows me to do that in a way that I've never experienced before and probably never will again. I mean, I think it's huge, it shouldn't be diminished how hugely powerful, like the stuff you just said was,

because I think for people listening, it's like, especially young people that are dealing with these issues, it's like, if Daniel Radcliffe dealt with this, and I know, like, timeline-wise, it was kind of like, towards the end of Potter were like things were kind of like hitting the fan and like you know having that degree of material success and to still feel isolated and lonely and uncertain about the future and then to come out on the other side of it is hugely impactful and hugely inspiring I think for for everybody well thank you and I will say I don't you know I think it's very easy to draw a line and probably many of you not incorrectly are in your head between that timeline and what I was what was happening in my life sort of publicly

in what I was going through. And you're not wrong to do that, but also I don't know that it wouldn't have happened if I had never been cast in Harry Potter. Like, there's definitely world in which I'm dealing with some version of this in sort of any timeline. And so, yeah, I just wanted to add that.

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from infamous cases like Ellen Greenberg to shocking Florida stories like the Dan Markell killing. With 55 million downloads, we bring you new deep dives every Tuesday and Thursday. Listen to Moms and Mysteries on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. On another note in terms of like the structure of the show, we kind of alluded to this. I mean, the nature of the show is it's different every night. It's hugely different. I mean, you're essentially improvising with like non-actors every night. Did you ever improvise a line on Harry Potter once?

Was there anything? I don't think so. I mean, yeah, I don't know, maybe. I think I would have always been too scared of screwing up a take that like I, because also we were shooting on film at the beginning and we really didn't want to, you know, I think like, I probably would always have asked. I don't think I would ever have fully just like made something up.

I would have been like asking Chris Columbus like, can I say this? And he'd be like, no, that's a bad idea. No, he wouldn't have been that he was very generous. but I'm sure a lot of my like 11 and 12 year old ideas for lines I would add were not great. Let me just rewrite Steve Clovis's script over here. Yeah, no. I don't think, like there's not been, and it's interesting because there is, there's some improvising in the show every night. Some of it's very, very structured. You know, there's sort of a monologue with a few breaks for more improv-y sort of bits.

But yeah, there was not, improvising has been a huge, I think I do still have, reticence about doing it even on like the Tracy Morgan show because I'm like I still don't want to like I want to get the take as scripted first and I always feel like oh actors I've been on sets where actors like actors think they're really funny and most of them are not as funny as writers and so like I've been on sets where actors are just like amusing themselves with ad libs and the crew is just like can we go home like so I'm sort of always loath to be one of those guys in terms of so we alluded to this You've done so much great work on stage, and it seems like you, is it first that you like the rhythm of theater? I mean, it's conducive to your lifestyle, you're a parent now. I mean, does it all kind of work together? It's satisfying.

It works for the personal life. Yeah, I mean, I think it is. And I guess, and, you know, I love working in New York, and it's lovely to be on Broadway and have the sort of, you know, be able to go home at the end of the night. and particularly with my kid at the age he is now, I think that's a really, you know, it's great. I think there'll be a time when he's in real school where it's gonna be really hard to do theater because that's the place I will mean

we will not overlap on time and I will never see him. But right now it's sort of great. And I also think I have, theater's been a huge thing for me in my career in terms of I have always gotten better as a result. Like I've never left a theatrical experience like anything but having like learned a lot and become a slightly better actor for having done it.

And I think there's something about the adrenaline of it as well that is like ensures that you can't get too comfy and you are still challenging yourself. And I feel like most of the places that I've been able to find sort of the greatest challenges in the lot, certainly over the last few years have been in theater. Have you planned out your son's first film of yours? Will it be Swiss Army Man or Harry Potter?

Which would be more traumatic. If I had a choice, it would be Swiss Army Man probably. I mean, like, I don't know. Yeah, he, so we had this moment for the first time the other day. Right now I'm just his dad, and he has no idea what I do. Oh, he's starting to because we, and first of all, you know your job is a little bit bullshit if you can't explain it to a kid. He understands what policemen and doctors and firemen do, but you act, you're like,

well, we'd help tell stories like the stories in your books, you know, but we sort of act them out. That's sort of what we've landed on as an explanation. But then he, so we were watching the Olympics, and obviously the Reggie Dinkins show is on the same network as the Olympics were on, is on NBC. And so it was advertised heavily during the Olympics, apologies to everyone who had to watch a lot of the trailer. And I had left the room, and apparently I popped up in the corner of the screen, and my son just went, dada, with like a tone of, I'm not really, not crazy, right? And I had... Everybody else seeing this?

Yeah, and then actually what happened, it happened like a bunch of the kids in our building, that was their first time seeing me pop up and stuff. So like, our friend's daughter, who's like five was just like, I saw you on TV, what were you doing there? Like, it was very, it was great, it was very funny. And I think,

I don't know. I'm kind of a big deal, guys. I don't know. I don't lead with that. I really, I let them and, you know, I think there's a world where, you know, my son watches the, like, the HBO show of Harry Potter now instead of the films. And I'm also sort of happy with that. I, I, as much as I can do to just be his very uncool, unimpressive dad for as long as I can is the goal.

He doesn't have a lightning bolt scar on the floor. I hope not. There's also talk about serendipity, the weirdness of the world. Tom Felton is currently on Broadway. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know he attended your show recently. I just talked to him for the podcast. He's so, you know, he speaks so well of you.

I know vice versa. Very sweet. What's it like to, I don't know if you've been through, like, Times Square and see like a giant billboard of Tom Felton as Draco Malfoy on Broadway. What's that experience like for you? I mean, it's surreal, honestly. Like, it is. It's so, I'm just, I'm genuinely just, like, so happy for him to be doing it

and to be having the experience that he's having on Broadway. Like, I love doing theatre, and I love that this has allowed him to do it. And also, I mean, he is, you know, I'm every, there is definitely a double bill going on for people right now of Curse Child and every brilliant thing, because I am signing every night, I'm signing stuff that, like, as me and Tom are both on it.

And there's something wonderful about, like, you know, we met as teenagers outside, you know, in Watford, outside London. when we were, you know, younger than teenagers, you know, but we were, and then, you know, grew up doing all sorts of stuff that we shouldn't have been doing, but together, you know, and friends. And then to now both be on Broadway at the same time is like, yeah, it's surreal and lovely. And, you know, I hope it, you know, I know, I know he's just extended and I'm sure, but I hope this is like, I hope he wants to keep doing theater after this. I think he will

because he's having like a great time doing it. I was going to ask you this, you kind of answered it earlier. I was going to ask, did you ever read reviews back in the day when you were a kid? It sounds like you were shielded from that, thankfully, because that would have been... Yeah, no, I definitely, I didn't ever... Yeah, certainly not when I was very, very young. You know, there was a moment when I was, like, 16 and logged onto the internet for the first time. And, like, Googling yourself was an option, which I do not recommend. And, you know, that was... that was bad.

but like I yeah generally speaking everybody in my life actually did a really great job of shielding me from them but without making me feel like I was being shielded from anything like you know when the films would come out my mum and dad would be just would just go like the reviews were good

you don't need to worry about them they're good you're fine and I sort of still have that relationship now with either my dad or Erin my partner will I will basically get them to read all of them and give me a preacy of how it's gone and so it's good or bad it affects you you know and it and it does um if you ever want to

curse an actor go tell them you like the way they said a particular line they will they will never be able to say it that way again like and if anything good also can screw you know is there an example you can cite of someone somebody the other day i don't mean to say this because actually one of our wonderful stage managers said it to me the other day they were like you said that line tonight in just the most perfect way and in my head i was like damn Goodbye to that perfect line reading. Good news is, I don't know if, again, you're following, maybe Aaron or someone else has told you.

Retroactively, Andrew Garfield apparently just watched the Potter films and said how great you were in them. All these years later. Hey, cool. Thank you, Andrew Garfield. You're awesome. He's awesome. He's so fantastic.

That's really, that's cool. I disagree with him about my performance in Potter, but that's really nice. Thank you. You've had this conversation before. Sure. But it's like, I have more time now for me in the early films. Like, when I was 18, I would cringe

watching the earlier films. Now I think the early films are sweet and now I cringe watching myself when I was 18 or 19. But I assume that I will just keep, you know, those dates will just keep changing as to what I find palatable of my own work. Is there one sweet spot or the negative of a sweet spot that you're purposely avoiding like one age, one moment that you're... I mean, I haven't seen any of them for so long. So all of them, I guess. This is kind of a cruel challenge for you. I do this with actors about their filmography. I kind of do the bracket system to use the sports analogy where I'll pit their own films against each other. Oh, great.

I'm going to pit, since there happily are eight Harry Potter films. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm going to do this. Do an all Harry Potter bracket? Yeah, you're ready for this? Okay, Dan Radcliffe ranks. And is this my performance or the film? You can do however you want.

Okay, let's do the films. Do the film, okay. Sorcerer Stone versus Chamber of Secrets. I would take Chamber of Secrets. Okay. Because I love the basilisk. Okay. tough. That's actually tough.

I know, I know everyone wants me to say Asgaband. I know that's how everyone else feels, but I love the stuff I got to do on the fourth movie was awesome. I got to, yeah, I would, like, so I'll say Goblet of Fire.

Order of Phoenix or Halfblood Prince? Order of Phoenix, far away. Half Blood Plinths is probably the bottom of the bracket for me. That's, just, and that's my own stuff, that's not the film. I don't know what the system I'm using is here. I'm kind of going back Like I said, this is a therapy session. Definitely Howl's Part 1 versus Part 2.

Part 2. Part 2 is my favorite of all of them. Okay. Well, we'll see. You're ruining it. Oh, sorry. Chamber of Secrets versus Goblet of Fire now. Goblet of Fire. Order of Phoenix versus Howlis Part 2? Hallow's Part 2. And now, Goblet of Fire, Definitely Howlis Part 2.

Wow. I'm fascinated. I wouldn't have said Yeah, interesting. I don't think I knew that Goblet of Fire would have been my second favorite film. Although it would have survived, if the bracket were different, it would have gone a different way. Okay, I see how this is.

What a journey that was for all of us. You alluded to this before. I want to give some love to this fantastic show. It is so damn funny, the fall and rise of Reggie Dinkins. Guys, check this out if you haven't yet. On NBC, on Peacock. It's from the brilliant minds of 30 Rock,

Robert Carlock, Sam Me. you and Tracy Morgan. Is that basically like the pitch? That was the entire pitch. Yes, that really was. Robert Carlock just said, we find the idea of you and Tracy together really funny and we find the idea of Tracy referring to you constantly

by your full name, Arthur Tobin, as really funny. And that was initially all I knew. And I read the pilot and I was like, and it was just, you know, it's one of their scripts. So the joke density is insane. There's stuff that I've only noticed on like, like, you know, I would be learning my lines and then it would be like the fourth time looking at the scene. I'd be like, oh, right, that's a, that's a joke.

I've missed a joke on a headline of a paper or something, you know. But yeah, it's just the bet. It really is an unbelievably funny show. The joke writing on that show is so, so good. I really, you know, I am reticent to even plug my own stuff, but do watch it. You'll really like it. It's a really good time. Arthur Tobin's something of a pretentious director.

Obviously, you've never worked with anyone like that. No, no inspiration for this? No, not directly. I've worked with, yeah, no, I've been pretty lucky. Arthur's not based on somebody. I think he's more based on just like pretentious English people that I've known, but not like not necessarily directors or particular people that I've known in my life. Yeah, he's, the, we were, when I was, when we were making the show,

we were kind of trying to figure out who is the analogous kind of version of Arthur. And it sort of is Louis Theroux, like in terms of a person that's in their own documentaries in a way that features them. But like, I don't want to say that because Louis Thru is great and Arthur's really annoying. And I don't want to, you know, sort of disparage him because he's fantastic. But in terms of a sort of intellectual British documentary maker who also appears in his own stuff, he would be the comp, I guess. Who's got more idiosyncratic line readings, you think, Tracy Morgan or Alan Rickman in your career working with him? Tracy Morgan. Alan is completely, you know, iconic and you can't do it.

Everyone's got an Alan Ritman impression, but no one can actually do it. Like, he was amazing. Tracy is otherworldly. Tracy, like, there are line readings available to Tracy that just most actors could not make work in a million years. Right. And I still don't know how he does it a lot of the time. Like, it really is, you know, the word,

but when you read it on the page, when I read like books are brain movies, which is a line in the show, I was like, I couldn't say that and make it sound like a real thing, but it just works coming out of Tracy's mouth. Like he really is. What Tracy is and does,

like it can't be learned and it can't be taught. Like it's just being naturally one of the funniest people on the planet. You also get to mix it up with none other than Megan the Stali, Yes, yeah. In a pairing everyone saw coming. Yes. Is that on your bingo card?

Was this something you manifested? It was not. I definitely, Robert Collock phoned me up and said, hi, just so, you know, like, how would you feel about Megan the Stallion

being in episode five as Denise, the mail? We'd just done the read-through. And it was like, oh, that's a really fun episode and, you know, a fun storyline.

And then he was like, how do you feel about Megan the Stallion playing that part? And I was like, we should be so lucky. I mean, you know, most of the time,

You have to be like a successful show and up and running for a couple of years before people that famous will come and do a guest star So we were just, you know, overjoyed that she that she wanted to and and she was fantastic and funny and And yeah, we got her back for episode seven as well. Not that you have much time in your life, but what are you watching film, TV, anything you're obsessed with? What, the comeback? New series of the comeback. Incredible. Amazing What about a top chef also incredible and amazing. Yes, thank you one. What else? I am, we, not to give a plug to something that's obviously just on the same network, but St. Dennis, medical. It's great. Just such a great, lovely comedy. It's awesome. What else? I'm sure, I mean, obviously, like, see, all my cultural, I mean, I was about to say stranger things. I know it was months ago, but that's the one, it's pretty much the only TV series that is not a half-hour comedy that I have watched from beginning to end. So I'm very proud that I've, That was still recent, like, and I can reference it.

Were you watching it from the beginning? Did you catch up? No, no, I watched it from, I got into it very, very early on, and it was, you know, just amazing. Yeah, I loved it. I, I think people are so, you know, I know, as always, when anything finishes, there's going to be discourse. And, but, like, it's, it's, I thought it was, I thought they landed the plane, like,

amazing and well. Like, considering all the stuff they have set up over that time, like, yeah, like, amazing. Is Eleven still alive? Is she out there? I mean, yeah, like we're kind of allowed to believe the nice version if we want to, right? So, yeah, for me, that watching those guys have to shut down rumors about another episode is the most tiring thing. I'm tired for them. I'm just like, oh, my God, you poor guys. Well, you've secretly done another Harry Potter film.

Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that we just haven't released. And, yeah, what else? I mean, most of my cultural diet now is just, is 101 Dalmatians on repeat, with my son. 101 Dalmatians, we've just watched a little mermaid, we're kind of going in, we're just doing like some nice early Disney and it's just great. Who's playing with Lego more, you or your son? Choking hazards, Josh. He is not there yet.

He is not a parent. So still, still for me, it'll be, it'll be doing more Lego than him for a couple of years, but I'm very excited for him to get into all that as well. Here's a random one, no segue. Where's the Swiss Army man dummy at this point? Do you have it? Great question. No, I don't know where that is.

I'm going to assume it's either in the house of one or other of the Daniels or maybe A24's offices. I know the dummy did like a press tour. Like I would occasionally make appearances with my own dead mannequin on that press tour. So maybe it's just like in a warehouse somewhere that A24 owns. Yeah. Did you ever, I don't know if you ever had to, given like your unusual trajectory, Did you ever have to audition along the way in the last 20 years?

Yeah. How were you at auditioning? Pretty bad. I'm pretty nervous about it. I definitely, I've only done it like a couple of, I did obviously a bunch before Potter when I was a young kid actor. I did, I auditioned for Equilibrium, the Christian Bale movie. And in fact, if I had got that, I don't think I would have been able to do Potter.

So that's, that was lucky. We'd be doing the equilibrium retrospective tonight. Yes, yes, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. and yeah I said that movie like everyone remembers it like it's Christian Bale's main thing and and but yeah no and I've and I've auditioned for a couple of other things over the years one was a musical that ended up not happening is that the only one I haven't done a lot of it if I'm on you know I'm I've been

which is good because I did get so nervous doing that one But yeah, I definitely like, I don't mind it. I always say, like, if there's ever a barrier between me getting that and getting a job I love, I would absolutely audition. Like, I don't have a thing about not doing it. So, yeah, who are like the short list of directors that's like, yeah, Chris Nolan, I will happily audition for. Yeah, I'll do dummy sides for Chris Nolan.

Like, you know, I'll do some fake scenes written for something else. Yeah, I mean, there's loads. I mean, Chris Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson, where's Anderson? All the Anderson. The Anderson. You know, there's obviously a list. There's many directors I would happily audition for. I mean, you've found so much success both in theater

and especially television in recent years. I mean, you've done great film work throughout, but it seems like the film world now is a strange place, to say the least. I mean, you were in Lost City, which you were fun in, and weird, which I love, the Weird Al movie, was fantastic. He came to the show last night. Al has, bless it, since we've worked here, Al has seen everything I've ever done,

every show I've ever done. He came last night to every brilliant thing. I did not make him participate. But yeah, he's just the best. Well, I was gonna say actually, because I remember you said when we did the Merrily talk, like you were one of the cast members who didn't like knowing who's in the audience.

By virtue of this, you know who's in the audience. Yeah, I really know who's in the audience. I was like trying to recruit a man to play a part on stage the other day, and I looked at my right, and Patty Lupein was sitting next to Susan Sarandon was sitting next to Jessica Lang. And I was like, oh, how cool and intimidating that you three ladies all hang out. But they were great and they came back afterwards.

And yeah, we had Ian McKellen was in the other day. And again, it was like, oh, cool, you're here. Great. Better be good. And he, again, was lovely. He got up and did the high fives. I was so impressed. Honestly, like Ian McKellen and Anna Wintel getting up and doing the high fives in that section of the show is an achievement I will take to my great.

It was so cool. And so, yeah, it is a negative. on effect of the show that it's much harder to be unaware of people you admire being in the audience. But I'm getting better at it. Yeah. So somehow I segue out of the film side of things. Like are you finding, is it, it's tougher for everybody, I feel like finding rewarding material in films nowadays. Where are you finding?

I mean, definitely like the two things that I've been the most excited about recently have been this play and then the TV show. And you don't get a TV show like this made unless you are Tina Fey and Robert, Collock and you know it's a there's a lot that this has going for it that most TV shows don't have. Yeah, I think it is a weird time in film. I am hopefully, you know, over the summer going to shoot a film that I've been attached to for about three years and it has and oh, I probably can't say who's going to be in it with me, but it is somebody that this room would find particularly exciting. You're making it worse. You're just, you know, I know, I know, I know. But it's,

it's something that I've been a tattoo for three years and it's the most beautiful. It's called Trust the Man. It's something that I've, it's written and directed by a guy called Will Graham. It is a beautiful story and covering something in history that I don't think I know a lot about, which is being sort of, it is about homosexuality in the military in the Vietnam era. And it's also kind of like an espionage documentary,

espionage drama along the lines of a film like the lives of others and it's just extraordinary like it's the script I have loved the most in a long long time and you know we have been pushing that rock up that hill to get it made for a long time and it looks like it's about to but you know that's going to be the culmination of three years working even longer on that on the part of the writer and the director so yeah it's it's a weird time but stuff

stuff still happens like you can still get stuff made if you if you try really hard not all the time and there's definitely other things that have fallen by the wayside over the years but I'm lucky to get any autonomy over any of this and hopefully be a part of these things so yeah I'm just gonna keep going

and trying to make weird shit please do we're gonna end with the happy second fuse profoundly random questions I think you've answered some of these but let's see what we got today dogs or cats dogs shish trying to get me cancelled like Jesse Buckley

It's not my fault She went so hard Of that question Yeah okay wow You could have It's a one word answer You could have just said it That's really funny

What do you collect Um Now Toy dinosaurs Again it's all just answers For a three year old Um What do we collect

Wow Books I guess Books Yeah Do you have a favorite Video Game of all time Um Probably Madden or any of the, a lot of the EA sports games,

I would have been what I played the most growing up. I was always really bad at video games, which probably saved me from just becoming obsessed with them. Yeah. The EA sports hockey game was always great because it was both hockey and sometimes boxing. Because you would throw the gloves to the ground, and then just the controllers turned into the controls for a boxing game.

It was awesome. The Dakota Johnson Memorial question she asked me this. I ask everybody, would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one B in your butt? Ooh. Like you've never thought about it, guys. They're all alive? No one's asked me that. Congrats.

Because like one B in your butt dead. I don't know. That's probably fine. A mouth. It'll probably die once it's there. Okay. Be in the butt. Okay.

What's the consensus on that? It is B in the butt. Okay. Right, good. 90% be in the butt. Yeah. What's the wallpaper on your phone? My girlfriend on holiday with me on our, like, baby moon before we had our son.

Lovely. Who's the last actor you were mistaken for? Come on. Elijah Wood, every time. Every time from a car, from people shouting. Like, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I did sign a copy of Lord of the Rings at Stage Door the other day. It was great.

Yeah. I had Elijah on the podcast the other week. I have a message from Elijah Wood for me right now. Oh, no, really? Yeah. Let's play this. Hello, Daniel. Congratulations on the show.

I'm sorry I can't be there tonight. I know you're a New York resident. I only just recently realized this, but you've been here for ages. Listen, as someone, we are two people that get mistaken for one another a lot. My thought is just this. Why don't we just work together? I would love that. So I don't know what the idea is.

I don't know if it's a buddy cop movie, if we just lean in. But anyway, all of this is to say, I hope you're well. Lots of love, my friend. Have a good night. Oh, bless him. That's the thing. It's so nice to be mistaken for someone so genuinely lovely and talented and just like, it's a really, like, it's very nice.

I mean, he's just the best, isn't it? I guess I have to shave the rest of this and just have a mustache now so that we're still, so that we're still twins. You're going to be playing Frodo again soon, I hear. Right, exactly. Yeah. That's exciting. I'm totally up for, yeah, buddy cop, you know, or is it something where we're playing ourselves locked in some sort of fight to the death?

There can be only one, like a Highlander situation. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but somebody, if anybody out there has pictures, get them, start writing that script. I guarantee someone will. You answered me this one once a poor, let's see if it's the same answer. Worst notice director has ever given you. Oh, it would probably still be the same. It would be just like feel it. just feel it without expressing which emotion I should be feeling

was tough, yeah. And in the spirit of happy sec and fused, an actor who always makes you happy, you see them on screen, you're in a better mood. Steeper-Chemy. Yeah, just immediately. Movie that makes you sad. I, I, it made me feel a lot of things,

but the wild robot, as a new parent, don't do it. Unless you want to feel those things, But the minute they establish the premise of like, oh, she's going to have to let it go. It's like, oh, my God, this is, yeah, the wild robot. And a food that makes you confused. You don't get it. Jellyed eels.

It's a thing that you, if anyone, if you're ever in the UK and somebody's like, oh, you don't try a jelly deal? Say no. It is the most, it's, I guess, like, you can be like, okay, I see why this was a delicacy in the Tudor era. But, like, it's really like, somebody, gave it to me and the instructions they gave me were you don't chew it, you suck all the jelly away until you get to the bone, then stop. Yeah, right, disgusting. We're disgusting people. And that was, yeah, so that was, and they, it's like a very, it's a very traditional old English thing, but you don't need to try it.

Yeah, available at the concession standard, every brilliant thing. Yeah, absolutely. Cockles, Winkles and Jelly Deals, they're all there. Well, before we wrap this up, I just want to say a quick thing. We've been talking for a thousand years since you were just a kid and I sadly was still an adult. But I did the math. This is your fifth time on the podcast. And you know what happens when someone's on the podcast five times? No, I don't. Get ready.

Oh, what is this? You get a free hat. Hey! Awesome. Welcome. Five-timers club, baby. Five-timers club. Hell yeah.

Daniel Radcliffe, happy. I'm very confused. Wear it with pride. Thank you very much. I will do. Thank you for having me. Before we go, quick reminders, guys, every brilliant thing. You still have time to see Dan on this. Murshka Hargate is going to take over late May,

but see Dan if you can because he's unbelievable in this production. And make sure to check out the Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins on NBC and Peacock. It's fantastic. Give it up. Dan Ratcliffe. Thank you so much. Everybody, thank you. And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused.

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