Happy Sad Confused - David Harbour, Sam Heughan, Jack Quaid, Jaimie Alexander, Zoe Chao -- 10th Anniversary Special

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

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Okay, it's official. We are very much in the final sprint to election day. And face it, between debates, polling releases, even court appearances. It can feel exhausting, even impossible to keep up with. I'm Brad Nilke. I'm the host of Start Here, the Daily Podcast from ABC News. And every morning, my team and I get you caught up on the day's news in a quick, straightforward way that's easy to understand, with just enough context so you can listen, get it, and go on with your day. So, kickstart your morning. Start Smart with Start Here and ABC News because staying informed shouldn't feel overwhelming. Hey, everybody, it's Josh here with a very special edition of Happy Say I Confused. You are about to listen or watch

the 10th anniversary live special for Happy Sadd Confused recorded at New York Comic Con just a couple days ago. It all begins right now with a very special message from a very special guest. Enjoy. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. What is up, New York City? New York Comic-Con. Welcome to the 10th anniversary event of Happy, Sad, Confused, the iconic podcast of the one and only Josh Horowitz. Now, I know what you're thinking. I know exactly, because I could read minds.

Jesus Christ, Rock, you look exactly like Josh. I know, I know, every time I look at Josh, it's like looking in the mirror, it's like my twin. Look, I got a lot of jobs like you guys, I got a lot of jobs, but the most important job I have right now is to tee up the man of the hour himself, Josh Harwoods. And just to let you know a little bit of context

on our relationship is in a way, and I told Josh this the other day, in a way we kind of grew up together in this business this crazy business of entertainment in Hollywood. We kind of grew up together years and years ago, almost going on two decades. Josh and I started doing interviews together. We've done interviews everywhere from taxi cabs to the biggest stages in the world. And I will share this with you guys really quickly when I first broke into Hollywood many, many moons ago. I always made note of the interviewers and the journalists who weren't that nice, but I also made

note of the interviews and a journalist who were really kind and cool and welcoming me to Hollywood and welcoming to this to this industry and one of those is Josh which is why we've become such close friends and I got to tell you something else about Josh before we get the show on the road is I've always felt like you know it's a kind of a rare air place if we all of you me Josh everybody if we could get to a place where when we wake up the thing we want to go do we're running towards because we're passionate about it and we're running towards it because we love what we're doing and we love that particular thing well when it comes to film when it comes to TV when it comes to actors and

filmmakers and our business Josh runs to it he does it with passion he does it with authenticity and he's just a great human being and I love the guy so ladies and gentlemen New York City without any further ado I want to bring out the man of the hour the man with the power my My only wish right now is that I was with you guys there in person, that I was personally in person, live interviewing and bringing out Josh, but let's face it, I'm the rock and I got way more important shit to do. So without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, New York City, Josh Horowitz, the founder,

the man behind, happy sad, confused, Josh, happy 10-year anniversary. I love you, buddy, and have a great night. Love you guys, have fun. Welcome everybody, hi! How's it going? This is insane, I'm already gonna cry. Welcome everybody to the 10th anniversary Happy Say I Confused, I'm Josh!

You guys are amazing for coming out tonight. This is crazy. How did we get here? I don't know. The short answer is New York Comic-Con, in their Infinite Wisdom, said, hey, maybe Josh, you want to host a live event at New York Comic-Con. I said, hey, wait, it's the 10th anniversary. I'm going to bring five of my favorite human beings together and celebrate this crazy podcast that I created in my dingy little office at MTV. And here we are. Here we are, guys. Backstage is like the coolest

assortment of folks, like, short of like a Knives Outcast. This is like going to be so fun tonight. We have coming up in just a few minutes, David Harbor. We have Zoe, Chow, we have Sam Hewin, we have Jack Quaid, we have Jamie Alexander, and it's going to be, it's going to be an awesome time. So before I bring them out, I just want to say the kind of the longer answer is how we got here for a little backstory is I started this podcast truly as a passion project. It was literally in my office at MTV. I was missing doing kind of long form conversations that could be both smart and silly and hopefully everything that is me. And for years, I think we did it in anonymity.

And somehow all these years later, my passion project became something that a lot of folks seem to enjoy. And that means so much to me. And it means so much to me that you guys are the largest live event at Happy Second Fuse has ever been a part of. And I'm told this is the largest ticketed event at New York Comic-Con ever. So thank you for that. And yeah, like, I've never done one of these with like five disparate guests,

most of which don't even know each other. So we'll see how this goes. This is a big experiment, guys. One last thing to say before we get to the show tonight. If you could put up the QR code, if you guys have questions for this amazing group of actors, enter this QR code. Hopefully it's going to show up on the screen anytime now at some point. And you'll be able to submit your questions, and we'll try to get to some.

some questions. There it is. There it is. So yeah, submit your questions that way. But first my questions and first, my first guest of the night. This guy embodies everything I love about Happy, Say I Confused. He is a brilliant actor. He is smart, but he also can make fun of himself. He is the star of Thunderbolts coming soon. He is the star of Stranger things. He is the star of Creature Commandos. An awesome show you're going to enjoy very, very soon. Please give a big New York City welcome to David Harbor, everybody. Come on! Yeah! What's up, nerds? Yeah! We're here!

That's the energy I'm looking for. go. I just pounded some Korean barbecue backstage. Not in your ready for some burping. Yep. David, welcome. Thank you. Nice to be here. Thanks to have me, Josh. This means a lot. You were, you truly were the first person I reached out to and there were no negotiations. David was like, if I can sneak away from those pesky kids on stranger things, I'm yours basically. Any chance I get to be with adults I take. That's being charitable to me. Thank you. Although the kids from Stranger Things are now like 35.

Right, right. They're getting married. It's all crazy. Talk to me a little bit about you. You are a veteran of Comic-Con. I think the first time we met, actually, was at San Diego Comic-Con years ago. Was that for Stranger Things Season 2, maybe? Something like that.

I know. Memories. Memories. No, let's not do that. Let's not subject them to that. But in an actor's career, going to Comic-Con is not what you sign up for. It's not what you imagine eventually. Where in the spectrum of weird stuff you do

is coming to Comic-Con's at this point in your life? Is it old hat now? I love it. I'm so lucky to have this career that I never dreamed I would have. I'm a very pretentious theater kid who went to... Oh, look at that horrible picture.

We're going to show that in a second. They can't see it. Oh, they can't see it yet. Get ready. Yeah, I was like, you know, I was a... a guy, I don't know if any of you guys are theater majors or if anybody like

I did acting in high school and stuff like that, you know, you probably like plays and stuff. I was like the guy who liked Taddeus Kantor and Jersey Gratowski and like Anthony Nartow and like was reading dense brecht texts about like theater and alienation

and thought I would be some, you know, weird East Village like indie director guy who and then I wound up being like the doofus in the Marvel movies

and I'm so happy it's really yeah it's really extraordinary but I just love coming of these things I say it I say it all the time so I sound like a broke record and it sounds insincere every time I say it because I say there's so many Comic-cons but I will say that like I just love the people here

I love the freedom that we have to be passionately enthusiastic about dorky stuff and and you know we didn't have this stuff when I was growing up maybe it was there but it was so niche but now

it's so popular and it's so accepting of people that I think it's a really special space and I feel like I just love it I mentioned yes I mentioned that you are kind of the perfect happy say I confused guests because yes like you have kind of like I'm happy sad

and confused all right here most of the time But yeah, we can go deep and go nerdy on any kind of genre, but you're also down. And we've had some fun times over the years. The image he's referring to, if we can put it up on the screen, this is a time that David Harbor let me come over to his place. That's his bed. That's your actual bed.

That's my bed. Did you burn that immediately after the shoot? Did you have regrets? No, my girlfriend at the time made me keep it. He said she didn't want to change the smell. Right. Oh, wow. I'm thinking about the Horowitz odor that she really... It's legendary by now.

We have another image, speaking of Stranger Things. Do you remember the time I made you Donna Wigg to play 11 for a one-man show? Oh, yeah. What do you think, guys? Pretty good, right? I think they went with the wrong girl when they chose Millie Bobby Brown. I mean, look at that. Look at that stare.

Look at that intensity. You were intense. Oh, God, dreamy. How goes all things, stranger things? Because I need the update, man. Have you shot the ending? Is it done yet? I don't want to get you to trouble.

I'm going to get such trouble with Netflix. But who cares? What are they going to do? Fire me? We're at the end. So this season has been a, you know, it's the last. season. It's season five of the show. It's been shooting for months and months and months now.

I think we've been shooting for 10 months now. And we have another couple more to go. We're kind of block shooting, which means we go back and forth in the script, shooting lots of different stuff. But I will say, I can say this. Yeah, I can say this. We read through the final episode of season five. And look, I'm very close to the show, so I have very strong opinions, and they may not match yours if you're a fan of the show. I'm an actor on the show, so I see the nuts and bolts, and I sometimes get very mad at what I think is like a bad episode

or like whatever this season I didn't like or that, or what it is. I can be very critical of this show. And that episode, Episode 8, they land the plane. and it is it is the best episode is the best episode ever done and I'll tell you one thing

at the last 20 minutes like all you people who cried when Hopper died in season three or whatever and then I tricked you showed up bald the end of this episode

when we were reading it just us reading it about halfway through like people started crying and then about the last 20 minutes it was just uncontrollably crying waves of different

people. Noah's not being my favorite. I'm just like literally I mean but I think part of that also is the fact that these kids, it was their childhood, right? Like they started the show when they were 11 and 12 and here we are reading and it's 9, 10 years

later and we examine that idea and it's so well done and so beautiful and I was totally prepared not to come out here and say that and it's such a great episode and it's such a great season. You guys

will love it. Wow. And you'll love it when you see it in 2031. Exactly. Only 63 more months of shooting left. It's unbelievable. They've got to get it right, man.

Take 27. Hopper get out of car. I think we got it, Matt and Ross. I think we got it. You know my ulterior motive over the years in building our friendship was just to get me closer to Winona Ryder and mission accomplished. Thank you for that. I'm happy to be of service. You're in the lucky few. She is an extraordinary creature. What's the most Winona-ist thing lately witnessed on set? Give me a classic Winonaism with love. Or I'm going to give you an option B.

Is Jopper Nation going to be satiated? Are they going to be happy? Oh, you will be well fed. I just love her so much. We, okay, so we got really into, God, now I'm blanking on her name. Who's the actress in Chinatown? Oh, Fay Donaway.

Yeah, Faye Donaway. Occasionally we go on these tears of like, because she's so knowledgeable about old movies and old stars and stuff, and there are these memes of Faye Dunaway being very mean trying to film this thing and getting really annoyed at crew members and stuff. And so we would just watch these things over and over again. And also, Faye Dunaway had a show, like a reality show,

with Vivica Fox and some acting, casting director from L.A. where they judged 10 actresses and it was called the Starlet and it was a reality show where A. Dunaway would critique and Winona and I watch it all the time it is our favorite thing ever and I just want you to know if you'd like to see more Winona

Ryder and David Harbour be ridiculous. Feel free to text Netflix and say we would like Winona Ryder and David Harbor and Josh Horowitz to come judge 10 actors because I would love to do a reality show like that one day.

But yeah, we watch a lot of reality TV and old movies together. She's amazing. A gem. A quick tease on Thunderbolts. I know you can't say much, but we're starting to see... It looks awesome. You kind of tip me off that there's a lot of cool turns from different actors

in this that you're excited about. Do you want to... Do you feel like you can say who you're most excited about? Who's going to surprise the audiences in this one? Oh, oh, yeah. I mean, Everybody's good. I will say, like, Lewis Pullman's pretty great young actor.

If you guys don't know him yet, you probably do. He's going to be pretty great in this. I mean, but, you know, I mean, the best one is, sorry, it's Florence Pugh is like, everybody's great, though, like Wyatt's going to be great. And, like, I just had such a wonderful experience

filming that movie, and I usually am pretty miserable on set. And this was like a joy every day. They were so funny and smart and like, you know, so good at story and character. I just love, love, love this movie. And I can't wait for you to see like the movie and also kind of what it does in the universe, the broader universe of the MCU. And yeah, I just, I love it.

Now we know Downey's coming back. So you need to stick around. We need to see Harbor and Downey mix it up. Come on. That would be lovely. One of your cast members I caught up with recently, would you like to see a little quick message from Sebastian Stan for you, David?

Oh, Jesus Christ. This is short but sweet. Here's Sebastian Stan to Mr. David Harbor. David, how are you? In a minute, but you know what? I remember your advice, loud and clear. Just be pretty. Still trying.

All right, man. You've done well. You took it, Sebastian. Look at that shot. You look incredible. All right, I'll give it up for Sebastian Stan, by the way. Has anybody seen this movie The Apprentice as well? So good.

On the acting tip, he's incredible in that movie. He is, truly. It's like one of my favorite movies. It's incredible a movie. He's unbelievable. Do you remember giving him that specific note? He told me in a scene. Say pretty?

I don't remember that at all. I said so many offensive things to him throughout that shoot. All we would do is like rip on each other. Really? He Wyatt and him basically would just sit around and talk about, you know, just be mean to each other all day. We loved it. Loved it. I could talk to you all day, but we have four more amazing folks to bring out.

So let's share the wealth a little bit, shall we? Yes. So what I wanted to do is not only have folks that I've known over the years many times on Happy Second Feud's, but introduce some new blood. And I love this actress. She's fantastic. She's your co-star in Creature Commandos. You know her from Party Down, the after party. Please give it up for Zoe Chow everybody.

Here she is. Wow. Oh my gosh, this is thrilling. Really? Hi. Thanks. Hi. Hi.

This is Zoe's. You're right here. You sit over there? Yeah, I was thinking. No, Zoe, you're right here. No, Zoe, you're here. Oh, no. This is Zoe's first Comic-Con, everybody.

Hey! Can you tell? You already knocked over the water. How embarrassing. Damn it. First and last. No, welcome, Zoe. So, first of all, fun fact, you guys co-star in a new show. How much time have you spent together prior to this moment tonight? Zero percent of the time. This is correct. Zero time. I met her backstage. Yeah. This is the nature of animation. She's great in Creature Commandos, though. She is. She's really good. Very funny.

So before, okay, before we get to Creature Commandos, Zoe, what is like, what is Comic-Con to you. Is this your world at all or does this feel like you've jumped into a strange Yeah. Well, I did when I introduced myself to David, I was like, I feel unprepared because this is new to me and I am new to the DC universe and to comics in general. I'm a real noob. So I'm terrified and confused. What was your... Are you at all happy, though? We're going to get her

there. Hopefully soon. Yeah. Then you belong on the panel. Okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got confused down, though. Nailed. What was your bad growing up? What is, like, what would a convention devoted to what would get Zoe Chow out of the house?

Gosh, this is so lame. Like, Carrie Grant. Did they have those conventions? I, I, or like, yeah, I don't know. Fred Astaire and Ginger Roger convention. You're like, we have a new friend of Winona Ryder, David. We could add her to the fold.

That autograph session is going to be terrible, though. Yeah. But I was listening, you're a theater kid. I'm also a theater kid. Hey, what's that? Hey, hey. We'll talk some Anthony Nartow later. Okay, great.

I'll Brecht if you Brecht. Classic Brecht off. Yeah. Does it feel like, I mean, nowadays, given the saturation of franchises in our world, is it sort of like, I mean, do you go up for stuff like prior to creature commandos that fits in this land? Have you been on superhero kind of adjacent auditions or no? No. David was like, why are you here? And I was like, I auditioned for this and they gave it to me.

But I normally don't go out for stuff like this. And I'm, yeah, so confused. You know, is why I'm confused. But I'm really happy to be here. And I'm excited to learn about, I love learning. So I'm going to learn so much about this world. This, yeah. That's it.

Yeah, go ahead. Give it up. Learning. She needs some support. She's feeling out of place. Give it up for the theater kids. The lonely, scared theater kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I do want to talk a little bit about the show because I was telling you both, I think, I've seen a bunch of episodes. This show rocks. Creature Commandos, for those that don't know, this is from Max. It's coming in December. It's James Gunn, and it's James Gunn's first new part of this, his DC universe. And let's put the image up on the screen. This is going to give you a sense of the characters.

Awesome. It's kind of a misfit group of characters. You are two of them. You're, I believe, you're Nina Mazurski? I am. The woman with the... helmet on. Water tank helmet. The fish woman with the water

tank helmet. That's right. And you can guess who I am. The enormous green angry guy. What can you say to tease the audience a little bit about what the show is like and what your characters are like? What can we say, guys? Well, we're a special

ops, you know, a team. We're Task Force M. I'm like, get all facts out. Talking points, talking points. Task Force M for monsters. We do all the work that humans won't do. We're the last resort. And I play, yeah, Nina Mazzarski, who is an amphibious scientist and must always be submerged in water. And she has a big heart. As most people submerged in water, too. Ayo.

Yeah, they need it. You see, you get it? Something about the saline. I don't know. I'm going for something here. Osmosis. I don't know. I failed biology. A bunch of biology. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. And Frankenstein, Eric Frankenstein, to be precise. I play Eric Frankenstein, who is the monster,

Frankenstein's monster. And, you know, I mean, it's a great take on the Frankenstein thing. I'm obsessed with Frankenstein. I love Frankenstein in so many different iterations. And this is great because you get Frankenstein and you also get his bride, which I don't know if you're aware

of the iteration of that story, of which we do some semblance of it. It's like Frankenstein's very lonely because he's the only, like, created man who isn't, and women don't like him. And he needs a bride because everyone should have a partner. And he

creates one. And then, of course, it's not all that it's chocked up to be. And it's fantastic that in the midst of this, like, weird, angry, you know, team of heroes, you also have an anti-rom-com between two monsters. What do you two theater kids look like when you're delivering these heartfelt performances

in the VO booth? Do you go full, like, if I had a camera trained on you, how in it are you, Zoe? Yeah, I do a lot of ha-humma, Ha-humma. Do you remember those? Is that like a warm-up? You didn't learn that in theater school?

No, I did, but I don't do those warm-ups in the thing. Wow. What are your vocal warm-ups? Do you have any? I smoke a cigarette. Oh, you're a real theater kid. Exactly. Exactly.

No, I mean, I guess, yeah, it's a lot of me being confused. I guess that's mostly the state I'm in. But it's fun. to throw your body into things and not be worried about what it looks like and it was really fun. I got to work with Indira Varma who plays The Bride and she

was in London and I was in New York and yeah to figure out what the relationship was and real time was thrilling but it was athletic I don't know because you're doing a lot of like so I was like really sweaty.

I'm going to tell you because I actually have ADR. additional recording for Creature Commandos tomorrow and I have a spoiler for you. I'm going to give you my lines for tomorrow. Let's see, time code. 133 line 36.2, episode 107. Shot impact. 157. Falling scream. I had to do... Gurgling, like last breaths and breathing in air, but needing water. Did you put water in your mouth while you did it?

No. Yeah, I did try that. I got very wet. I also had to do baby. Oh, how does that go? See, I told you she was good. More of that coming in December on Max, guys. Creature Commandos.

The show is honestly great. I mean that. We share a mutual, Zoe. Ben Schwartz wanted to send you a little message and greeting, a regular unhappy, say I'm confused. Should we take a look, Zoe? You've bled us. Here he is.

Ben Schwartz, everybody. Take a look. Hi, everybody. Ben Schwartz here. First off, let me say, happy 10th anniversary to Josh Horowitz, a man who's been doing this for a very, very long time. I believe his first gig was he was on the carpet for Ben Hur. So congratulations.

Josh Horowitz on 10 years of podcasting and 150 years of standing on carpets and absolutely pushing microphones into people's faces. And then I have a question for Zoe Chow. First off, Zoe Hi. I think you're the best. Love acting with you. My question is, when did your love affair with Doritos begin? And how is that love affair evolved throughout the years. Thank you so much. And again, congratulations to Josh Horowitz, who interviewed the train in that first motion picture where the train is moving towards the camera. Congratulations. You're a thousand years ago. Oh, my God. Funny man. The train was a great interview, by the way. What's the deal with

Doritos? What's going on? I love them. It is my own. My own consistent practice in life is eating them. I think they're a perfect product. I have eat... Fuck yeah. I've got Cool Ranch too, if you prefer. Okay, so you know what I do? My ritual, before flying, is I buy both, and then I mix them in a bag. and then I breathe on everyone in the plane and I come out with so many friends at the end of that light.

You know what's crazy is Doritos follows me on Instagram. You've made it. This is the goal. You're living the dream. They follow only 99 people. What? And they sent me Dorito nach flavored vodka or what a liquor

over the holidays and I made my entire family try it and it's painous but I really believe in this this chip wow

and it stayed with me lower school middle school high school college grad school to today my first New York Comic Con with my buddies

You don't like them? What's, David, what's your food? What's your rider food? What do you say, like, I need this. This would make me happy in the trailer. This is the key to harbor happiness. Yeah, it's just coffee and a pack of cigarettes. Wait, what kind of cigs are we talking?

I roll my own, but. Whoa. Theater kid. Whatever. Don't smoke, kids. And you really don't partake in. Those are so gross. You know, the thing, when you eat those, I mean, I guess it's fine.

It's like smoking. Like, it's good for you, and it's horrible for everyone else. Those are like, they give you fart breath. Like, it smells like your mouth is farting after you eat those. Sure. Not all relationships are healthy. Let her have her Doritos, man. Come on.

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We had over 550 guests on HappySat Confused over the last 10 years. A few of them sent in some lovely, happy anniversary 10-year greetings to us, and we want to share some with all of you. Take a look at this 10-year tape of Happy Seton Fuse with some of our favorites. Josh Horowitz, you skanky, son of a bitch. Oh, happy, sad, confused. I'm very happy to say happy anniversary. Happy 10 year anniversary to the Happy Sad Confused contest.

From Glenn, Glenn and Glenn. Happy Sad Confused. Happy 10th birthday. You're 10 years old. You're a big boy, man. I'm a bit sad because I'm not with you celebrating, Josh, and I'm very confused that it's already been 10 years. 10 years, it's crazy.

10 years of Happy, Sad, Confused. I mean, I feel like, I feel like, It's been 50. Wow, it's been a decade. Who'd have thunk it? Not many of us, if we're being honest. It's one of those things that just keep going on. Somehow, you've managed to get all the way to the middle.

Happy, Anniversary to Happy, Sad, Confused, a podcast that I've never listened to. I adore Josh Burwitz. Everybody's favorite person to be interviewed by. You're one of my favorite people to talk to. It's the best. I've loved being on it. I can remember when I did it.

Each of the segments I've done for your show have left me happy, sad, and confused. So confused. I'm still self, confused. And you know what? We're all better for it. We've come so far together. We've laughed.

We've cried. Congratulations. Happy. Oh, you're confused. I never thought we'd be laid this long, but God, do I love it? Your warmth, your embrace. Thank you for doing this time and time again, and leaving us with a smile and a big heart.

So happy birthday, happy, sad, confused. Congratulations. His two, many more years. We love you. Love you, pal, so well-deserved. Happy birthday. What a privilege, what an honor,

what a podcast. Amazing. What? What was that? Oh, sweet. I'm very lucky. I'm very lucky. I'm lucky up until this point

because, unfortunately, legally speaking, I have to introduce this next guest. He is, he's my genetic twin, he's my best friend, he's my greatest enemy, he's the star of the show called Outland or whatever. Say hello to Sam Hewin, everybody. Come on out, Sam. Hi. Oh, my God.

What have I done? No. Can you get that on the camera? No. No, I'm on the back? You want one? Wow, wow. What a horrible mistake I've made.

That's $20 per shirt. Yeah, I'll pay you back. That's great. You found literally the worst photo of me ever. How long have we got? We're cutting it short. Thank you. Sorry about that.

That's all I've got. That's the one joke. Sam Hugh and Prop comic, everybody. So happy. Don't wear it too low, please. No, we are. Yeah. Keep it up.

Hi, guys. It's a kid show. That's a keepsake on eBay. Congratulations. Sam, thank you for being here. Hi, buddy. It's good to see you. I missed you.

I'm going to wear this all the time. Oh, my God. Near you. You got them printed. Yeah. Do you know, I designed this. I can tell. I designed it and I ordered one for all of us on stage and, you know, there was supposed to be

five or six and I've got 25. I fucked up some of the others as well. No, it's amazing. I'm very confused myself now. Welcome back, Sam. Sam was kind enough to come from the Outlander panel. I know a lot of you were over there. How to go, Sam?

Did you win the panel? Were you the most charming? It's not a competition. It's all a competition. Speaking of a competition, well, we'll talk about Jamie later, the other Jamie, backstage. But there was a competition just now going on backstage. David, you don't want to be involved in this.

I think you'll beat us. But yeah, we'll talk about that later. Wow, there's a tease. Move on, please. Okay, okay, okay. So let's get some Outlander business out of the way. Have you, is it over? Have you shot the end of Outlander?

I want the Dirt Man. Yes, yeah, no, we have. We finished two weeks ago. We shot our final episode, eight seasons, 101 episodes, 11 years, and I go back to work on Monday, because we have to do a bunch of pickups. So, yeah, it's been a real roller coaster. I mean, we're still a long way off from obviously, you know, getting to you guys seeing season eight. We're just here to promote season seven part two, or part two. It's very similar to Hot Shots, actually, this season. Yeah, I always like a good Hot Shots part to reference. My favorite, actually. Of the two. Yeah, yeah. It's like a Top Gun parody.

You should check it out if you haven't seen it. So talk to me watching more of a Rambo parody now that I think about the sequel. Do you remember the sequel? It's like more of a Rambo parody than the Top Gun thing. Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite scene was when they're cooking eggs on her stomach, I think.

Right. Yeah, yeah. Which I've always wanted to do with you. I have no follow-up. Let's move on. So I guess you haven't got an emotional yet because there are pickups to come. You haven't had like the big cathartic goodbye yet because it's a long goodbye. As you said, 7B is about to come out.

We're going to be talking for two more years probably about it. I'm going to see you for another two years. No, honestly, it's actually interesting talking to you guys and the guys backstage because a lot of us have been on shows for like a long time. And, yeah, there's so much bitter, sweet emotions mixed up in this, from saying goodbye to obviously the character to the location, but also your family, your fellow colleagues and the crew. And every time we did something, we were thinking,

this is probably the last time we're going to do this. It's exhausting because you keep saying goodbye to people. But, yeah, we'll get there. There's still a long way to go, and still so much to look forward to, obviously, of Season 7, Part 2 and 8 as well. So when are we getting you into the voiceover world? We're talking about them doing animated Creatures Mandos. Have you ever done any voice work, really?

I have. And you guys, so I did comic, no, I did Lego villains. And one of the noises I found really difficult to do was electrocution. Oh, I bet you've got a good one. That's all you. David, no. That's good. Wait, wait.

I don't know if you can tell. It's just the first stab, guys. I want to work on it and come back. I can do better. I can do better. Right? That's the actor's instinct. Yeah, I just want to, I just let me work on it for a couple of days. I'll come back. Just let me come back.

I'm sorry. I'm just feeling off today. I just don't have access to it. So what's the dream further voiceover role? Do you want a Pixar movie? Do you want Outlander the cartoon? What do you want? I'm a Star Trek fan, actually. I am a Star Trek fan.

I grew up watching NextGen, so maybe below decks is... Come on, guys. Yeah, we'll get them out in a second. We'll talk some Star Trek. Amazing. Yeah. Let's take a little trip down memory lane, a few photos. David, you thought you've done some silly stuff with me.

Sam. Oh, man. Oh, God. Okay, first image I think we have. This is the famous couples sketch that we did. Can we see that? Yeah. Wow.

As I recall, you kind of improvised the part of involving me in the thruple. That kind of was like a Sam note. You know, we'd been through every kind of therapy, and that was the next step. Right. Yeah, the look on your face there as well. Yeah. No acting required. No acting required.

Let's go to the next one. This is a bad idea is to go to a gym with Sam Hewain. This was a bad idea. That's true to scale as well. That is actually how small you are. Yeah, I've never felt more like an overweight child than standing next to Sam Hewain. Well, talking of like 10-year anniversary, you must have started this when you were like five years old. I was. I was a prodigy. I was six years old. You've gone through puberty yet. This was a sweet time. We shared a milkshake once. Do you remember that? That was a happy time.

And we had these lovely matching lunchboxes. Yeah. And then the time I surprised you by going all the way over to London. Do you remember this? Here we go. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. I never got you back for that. No, you didn't. Well, you kind of just did by having the ugliest t-shirt of me made ever. This guy. Yeah, we got it. This guy.

Remember who you're talking to? Yeah. So that was a legitimate surprise, because I don't believe it was. That was, really? It was. We were, I think, doing press. They said there's this thing they would like us to do, come downstairs, and I was expecting. I don't know what I was expecting.

I mean, some special award for being brilliant. But instead I was- That would never happen. That's not real. No, it's never going to happen. Yeah, and I was surprised by this, as you said, overweight. Childhood. Are you jumping out from behind a chair?

That's me moving as fast as I possibly can. That's in mid-sprints. And I'm almost about to hit him, I think. Yeah. I love this scene in Lord of the Rings. I bet Sam would want to be in Lord of the Rings. You strike me as a Tolkien guy. Yeah?

Oh, well, yeah. I mean, a little bit, yeah. So my brother was named after an elf. That felt like a confessional. That felt like a must. It makes sense, though, man. Yeah. Yeah?

Yeah, you got like an elven thing. Oh, really? Oh. Yeah. Oh, I'll take that. Sort of ethereal, kind of larger than, like, you probably lived like 2,000 years or something. I'd honestly love, I did audition for The Hobbit.

I met Peter Jackson, and I was terrible. And it was to play an elf. But my brother was named after an elf. called Kierden and actually my father, apparently my family, didn't call me Sam, that called me Sam Wise. So yeah, and then I was very lucky I was shooting men in kilts, this travel show I created. Down in New Zealand, we went to Weta and I got done up as a dwarf. And I realized as soon as I put the nose on, I transformed.

And we called my dwarf, there's obviously gloin, drawing, and we called mine groin, a dwarf. And he was very abusive and had a lot of bad language, but a lot of fun. You should try playing at the war, for honest. Yeah, could you imagine... Life-changing. Could you imagine either of you being in Middle Earth? Do you feel you would fit in that? Now that you're in the comic book world, Zoe, all bets are off.

You can do Fast and Furious, you can do Mission Impossible. I am ready. You're ready. Yes, after this session. Don't you think? You make a great... That you're ready? Yes.

Please tell me I'm ready. I think you're ready. I think so. She's ready, everybody. Hook her up. Thanks, guys. You're killing it. I know you were nervous.

She was backstage going like, I don't know, what do you do out there? And I was like, just act like an idiot. You'll be fine. Sam will show you. Yeah. Never going to work. See, the pretty people like it when I make fun of them.

Ask Sebastian. I have a little challenge for Sam and David. You both have some iconic ones. as your respective characters and Stranger Things in Outlander. Here's what I want to do. I want to hear you recite each other's lines. So, here's what's going to happen. Oh, God.

These are some Jamie Fraser lines. You're going to recite as if you're Jim Hopper. I just know he's going to do it so much better than me. Do I have to do it in an accent? What do I have to do here? No, no. The whole point is you're a hopper. You're hopper.

Oh, oh. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You got this? Okay. You're Jamie, but you're reciting some hopper lines and vice versa. So you can do what comes naturally. These lines are just unusual. I can't even remember my accent. You can do it.

Okay, so David, you're hopper, but this is your line. But when I stand before God, I'll have one thing to say to weigh against all the rest. Lord, you gave me a rare woman. God, I... I... I... I... I loved her well.

Yes! I mean... He wins the Doritos! You win the Doritos! It's like spiking a football. Doing that at the end of the show. Sam. I honestly can't remember my accent.

The show is over. You dropped it. No, you have three shoots. You've got to do it. I'm not going to hurt him. I'm just giving him the opportunity to get his own damn cherry slurpy. That's good.

They should recast. There's three more months of filming. Choose one more. You don't have to do both. the choice. Yeah. Time doesn't matter, sassanatch. It'll always be beautiful to me.

Wow. There's a small note there, but... It's good. We can work with it. We can wait. It's a start. I don't know the pronunciation of one of those words. We know.

We know, David. I missed that season. Sassanatch. Oh. Yeah, he's just destroyed my whole whiskey industry. This is a fun game. Sassanatch whiskey is the best whiskey out there, by the way. It turns you into one once you're crank enough.

One more from you, Sam. Mornings are for coffee and contemplation! There it is. Well done, guys. Good job. You passed the tests. All right, before we bring out our next guest, we like to end the happy,

sad, confused conversations with our profoundly random questions, and we get some amazing ones over the years. One of my favorites is the last actor you're mistaken for. Let's look at some of the best answers we've had over the last few years of Happy, Say, Confused, to that question.

Take a look. Are you ready for the Happy Second? Confused profoundly random questionnaire. Yeah, go. What was that? What just happened? A little shimmy, you do shimmy. Well, it's better than you lost questions, so it's kind of fun.

Last actor you were mistaken for. Hmm, has that ever happened? Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, it happens alone. I just had this happen to me. I get Anna Hathaway a lot. It's always doing now. Kevin Saw.

Chris happens, Chris has to live, Chris Pratt. Kurt, Russell, we get it sometimes. Sophia de Martina. I get a lot of... It looks a lot like the girl from Euphoria, and I'm like, really? Huh. Myself. Sometimes people will be in the stream, but they hear you end up, I feel I'll be like, no, I'm so sorry.

Well, people say my name wrong. McCauvey, Maccabby. That's the go-to-worst pronunciation. Mary Louise Parker. That's, those hyphens really screw people out. Hyphens are in trouble, yeah. Job, there's Jetty? There's Hugh in.

You know, you look like the actor E. Wan McGregor. I've signed pictures of him. That's a collectible. The guy goes, well, you sign this? I was like, that's not me. Right, who's this? Oh, no. It's not going to be.

And he was, Listery Jones. And he's like, can you sign it anyway? I'm like, no, I'm not to facing Felicity's face. I'm like, yeah. I die for chapel. I live for chapel. Apparently, everyone says to her that I am her celebrity look-like. Congratulations.

That's what I'm living off of right now. It's like my oxygen right now. Matt Damon. Oh, Joey Lawrence. And Joe Quinn. You get Joe Quinn? Last actor you were mistaken for? Justin Tim Blake.

It's the hair. It's the hair. Yeah. Tom Hardy. Really? I got that. I was like, wow. Jesse Clemens.

Quite funny not to correct people. He's so great. Thank you so much. Thank you. George Hamilton. George Hamilton. Yeah, yeah. George Hamilton.

It shows you how well I'm aging. It's funny. I saw the clip of Bill Hader. saying that he was mistaken for me. The boy came up to and goes, I love the boys. And then he got, and then he went this. Oh, wait.

Number one. He got close, he went, oh, shit, never mind. Oh, God, yikes. Throughout that whole clip, he's just like, that guy works out. That guy is in shape. I don't know. That's awesome, you know.

Yeah, that's a great common material. He looks like me, because that would suck. Most recently, Jeff Daniels. And somebody was like, oh my God, oh my God, I love the newsroom. And then I texted Jeff. Jeff. I was like, somebody just thought I was you, and he said, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's what's happening in my life. No one knows joint.

They think I'm Jeff Daniels. Oh, and then another one who was like, isn't that the motherfucker from Scooby-Doo? Isn't that Shaggy? Amazing. Any other recent ones? Any, anyone else have any others to offer that have happened recently or or no? I was working in Budapest a couple years ago, and I went to this and the owner there, he was very excited to have me in there. He's like, I like your movies, I like your movies, but he said, like your movies. And he kept bringing me into the gym, and then one day he went in, he said, come, come, come.

And I went into the changing room. He said, it's you, I like your movie, Tarzan. And he had a big mural of me on his wall with Scars Guard, when he said. I mean, that's a pretty good one to be compared to. I would say, yeah. That's no Jeff Daniels at full-on 165, all right?

Yeah, Tom Cruise all the time, but in his prime. And then Brad Pitt, it's annoying. No, I do get, you know what I get a lot nowadays? I don't know if it's the people are afraid to commit or something, but I swear to God, I get this all the time where people are like, you look just like David Harbor. And I go, really? I go, is that a good thing?

They're like, it's okay. But they go like, you look just like him. And I go, yeah, I know. say that. No, no, no. Really? You look just like him. I'm like, I know. And I swear I've gotten that like five times this week alone in New York. And he's just like, just maybe I'm him him. Your David Harbor cosplay is off the charts. People really don't want to believe that I'm him. I got to pull out my ID. It's embarrassing. We did a DNA test backstage. Like this is my driver's license. I swear to God. They're like, no, but you look like him.

he couldn't be in the Starbucks David Harbor wouldn't be in a Starbucks I'm totally in your Starbucks I'm telling you I'm in your Starbucks I'm on your subway I'm walking down your street talking to myself I'm a man of the people I'm that guy smoking a sighing theater kid he's rolling his own cigarettes on the subway that I'm not eating Doritos get those Doritos away from me with a Dorito bag it's not me I used to get in college I had, I would get Mandy Moore a lot. Yeah, yeah.

Really? Okay. Hey. I'm missing you. And I thought I would, I thought it'd be funny to make my college Facebook profile a picture that did look like both of us. But then it backfired and friends from high school wrote comments like, you've never looked better. Wow, you've really blossomed. amazing

Okay, it's official. Okay, it's official. We are very much in the final sprint to election day. And face it, between debates, polling releases, even court appearances. It can feel exhausting, even impossible to keep up with. I'm Brad Milkey. I'm the host of Start Here, the Daily Podcast from ABC News, And every morning my team and I get you caught up on the day's news in a quick, straightforward way that's easy to understand with just enough context so you can listen, get it, and go on with your day.

So, kickstart your morning. Start Smart with Start Here and ABC News, because staying informed shouldn't feel overwhelming. Well, you saw this next guest on that video. He might as well be the king of Comic-Con. Let me list some of the credits here. Jack Quaid is the star of Scream, Star Trek Lower Decks, The Boys, My Adventures with Superman. He's Living the Nerd Dream, everybody. Give it up for Jack Quaid, everybody.

Hey, Josh. Jack. Hold on. Josh, can you hear me? Can you hear me, Josh? Yeah, we can hear you. Yeah, what's up? Do I have to come out? Yeah, it's a whole point. I mean, it's a visual.

I just think, I think I might have misread the email or something, because I made a bit of a, just a bit of a mistake. No, don't overthink it, man. I'm sure whatever it's fine. Okay, well, you're, you're probably going to laugh. No one's going to, hey, we're not going to laugh, right? It's Jack Quinn. We're excited to see it, right, everybody? Entire audience, do you promise not to laugh? We promise. No one's going to wow. All right.

No, we won't laugh, honestly. There he is. See my shirt? All right, here I come. Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, it's Jack. Queen! Come on out! Hi, hi everybody. How's it going? What's up, Jack?

So what I think happened was, so I don't really read too much into my emails, you know, and I think I just saw David's name, and I thought maybe this was like the Stranger Things panel. Right, right? It's not, right? No, it's the 10th anniversary of the podcast. David is here.

Oh, sick. Hey, man. I'm just here, yeah. Oh, dude. It is David, right? Jesus Christ. It's so good to meet you, man. Hey, man, what's up?

Nice to you. Thanks for coming. Fucking best, dude. All right, cool. Season five, really the last season? Yeah, last season. Oh, man, well, shit. Is there a hell of fingers you got in your mouth? I mean, you deal with these things all the time.

Jesus Christ. So this is... So stylish with the shoes, though. Oh, no, yeah. You got to wear... Very good choice. That's where they wear on the show, right? This is brown loafers?

Does this bring you back, David? Does this like the Demogorgon on set? You know, season one, we did have a guy who walked around like that. Okay. In like a rubber suit. Look almost exactly like. Oh, sick. Yeah, no, there was.

Oh, this is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has a SAG award, that guy. Oh, sweet. I don't, you know. Oh, man. Well. I mean, you're here anyway.

You want to stick around? Yeah, sure. I'll stick around. Hey. Oh, thanks, man. Oh, ladies gentlemen, Jack Quaid. Hey. Yeah, good, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I fucking love Doritos too, bro. It's fucking great. Awesome. You want one or you can't?

Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, probably should take this off at least. Okay. There he is. Hi. Oh, wow. What's up? Hey, oh, sick. Nice.

Thanks. Wow. These can't grip anything. That's great. Thanks for having me. Well, the good news is you have a Halloween costume now. Yeah. You can, you can.

Yeah. No, it's going to be so sick. Everyone's going to be like, you're the guy. Yeah. Yeah. You are the guy, though. I just listed all the credits, Jack. You're living truly the nerd dream come true.

All these amazing shows. Yeah, thank you. I feel very, very lucky. And thanks to all of you for being here for Josh. This is insane. Also, I was signing today. Some of you came through. You guys are so, so cool.

Thank you for having me. You're wonderful. Thank you. That makes a sound, yeah? Yeah, we hear that. So not to make you rank all the amazing franchises you've been a part of, but what makes your inner geek most lose their mind? Oh, man.

Oh, God, I kind of have to bring it back to... I think I have to bring it back to the boys, because for so long... Thanks, y'all. For so long, I was such a superhero nerd, and I was like, oh, my God, I'd love to be a Marvel, D.C. movie, something like that someday. The fingers are distracting, I'm now realizing.

We love it. I can grip the Doritos. The sound of that is amazing. No, but I just always wanted to be in something nerdy and something involving superheroes. And then, like, never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd, you know, be it, like, ground zero for this whole franchise.

And, you know, especially with how absolutely deranged our show is. I remember being in New York Comic-Con, like, before the show came out, no one knew anything about it. They're like, why is it called The Boys? This doesn't make any sense. And we had to kind of explain the show and I was kind of like,

are people going to respond to this? And you guys have been absolutely incredible. So thank you for watching. The show is amazing. I feel like a theme in tonight's conversation is endings because we do know the voice is coming to an end. Yeah. Do you, you haven't started...

Whoa. It wasn't a boo. It was a whoa. I don't know about this. You haven't started shooting the end yet. No, no, that'll be in about a month. We're all going to head up to Toronto and finish this thing. It's going to be very bittersweet,

but I'm just really excited that we're, you know, we get to go out on our own terms. You know, like this is the ending that Eric Kripke and our writers intended. So, you know, it's not going to be rushed. It's going to feel very final. It's going to be great. Have you made any requests for Huey before this all ends?

I need to do this. Oh, man. I think I just want nudity to stop. My butt's had a lot of screen time, and it's not a great one, you know what I mean? And I think we don't need to... Yeah, you and Sam could talk, maybe. Don't you fucking dare. Don't you dare.

No, it's... You see how ripped I am right now? Look at this. That's all chess. Hell yeah. Time to dig into those Doritos, pal. I'm waiting. It's time.

It's about time. Eat the shame away. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't want to open these. They will fall. This is the slickest surface of all time. It will be just a pool of Doritos.

Dive on in. Yeah. Given what you've just talked about, do friends and family watch the show? Do you give them a heads up? Do you say, like, maybe skip this episode. We're cool here. Oh, yes, no. I definitely have anything involving my ass.

I've just been like, can you just not watch? I mean, season three, you just don't watch it. Like, no one in my family should watch season three. My butt's all over that thing. But yeah, I'm actually, well, you brought up families. I'm actually very surprised at how many people come up to my table when I do a con. And it's an entire family, including children. They're like, we love the show.

All of us. We watch it. And I'm like, that's a baby. And they're like, yeah, they got to learn. And, but thank you for watching. Entire family. I have questions, but I'll leave it. that. Yeah. Same question for you, Sam. Friends and family. Do you give them heads up?

I've seen his butt, yeah. I mean, I've seen it. Yeah, it's good. And? Well, can I get it signed? Okay. Later. We'll go backstage. Yeah. David, is your butt? Yeah, how's your butt? No, the only thing, what do I do? I usually take my shirt off each season and the more voluptuous I am, the greater the response. Which is like a lovely gesture, audiences. You guys want me on that full half and half diet. Just a nice warm glass of half and half and a two dozen donuts, David, a day. That's all we ask. It does feel like Red Guardian's costume doesn't leave much to be, to the imagination.

It accentuates every aspect of the body. Do you enjoy, you're like flattered by it? It's crazy, though. It is crazy because, you know, the great thing about you do a Marvel movie and the first thing everybody does on a Marvel set. And there's a guy down Atlanta who's like the trainer for like everybody marveled. So everybody's like, all right, we're going to train. And like everybody just starts training and lifting. You understand this, Sam, right?

We lift weights and we do things and stuff, right? And then they're always like, except David. Like, he can lift weights. We're fine with that. It's true. Like in Thunderbows, but they're like, please don't lose that adorable dad belly. And I'm like, guys, you've given me all the tools to get in shape. And you're saying, don't use them.

It's kind of the dream. I don't know. Let's put up the QR code again just for audience questions, just to remind you folks how to submit your questions. We'll put it up on the big screen if we could. Thank you. We also should mention Star Trek lower decks. We talked Star Trek a little bit earlier.

And by the way, this is the last season of Lower Decks, but we would have loved to have you. What the fuck? I didn't know you watched the show. We were so close. It's unbelievable. That's so cool. Oh, thank you, dude.

Oh, yeah. Hey, let's get you. Let's get renewed. Let's do this. Let's keep going. Let's get him on. Let's do it. Isn't William Shatner a big Outlander fan? I feel like he's... Yeah. I hung out. Well, then once we went to stables and I watched him like riding a horse and stuff. And I don't know. It was really weird because sometimes I wonder if I'm speaking to him via messages and stuff or if it's actually his assistant. I don't know. Does his assistant look a lot like him?

You can't tell him apart. Yeah, no, but I believe he was a fan until he saw me ride. Do you want to be a red shirt that dies? Do you want to be a captain? Do you want to, what do we cast you as? There's so much to unpack, yeah. I would, yeah, a good death would be great, a red shirt, I think.

If you had to pick a captain, like, who's your favorite captain? Oh, well, I mean, I'm going back to Picard, right? Yeah, I mean, of course. Patrick's James. It was just incredible, but I love Deep Space Nine. I was, yeah, a bunch. David Trekkie, Secret Trekkie, or not? Yeah, no, I mean, in college, like, I just watched Next Generation nonstop.

And that was back in the days when we had these things called DVDs. Yeah. And I don't know if you remember those Next Generation DVD cases, though, but they came, like, silver. And then, like, the thing would, strike would come around, it would be orange for season four, red. for season three or whatever. And yeah, we just had those back-to-back and we would just like try to write papers and just have that playing in the background.

Just like, I love that. Jean-Luc playing like five-card stud with his crew. I find the hum of the ship of the Enterprise is very calming. It's very nice to put on a night when you're like kind of drifting off to sleep. It's a very nice hum.

Just that it gives off. I don't know, whatever, you know. You haven't noticed the hum? It's a good hum. Who's with me on the hum? Crickets, nothing. You got a smattering of, yes? I had no idea until way too late that they did that thing on the ship

where they moved their bodies in the camera. Like, I had no, like, it must be a huge rig and, like, a whole thing. I also didn't know that Patty Duke played her and her identical cousin on the Patty Duke show until I was like 25. They make you believe. It's so good. It makes you the magic of movies. Oh, it's so good. I love it. And Jack is not the demigorgian.

That's a different thing. I know, I know, but Jack Quaid is before you now. Not the death Gordon. Isn't he always? Yes, yes, of course. It's a masterclass. It's a masterclass. How to be an idiot.

One more piece of tape to show before we bring out our wonderful final guest of the evening. Another one of my favorite questions that we ask, most guests, is about the worst note they've received from a director. We've gotten some amazing responses. Enjoy this compilation of the worst notes, actors have received. profoundly random question, Sebastian. This is like our modern-day actor's studio. What's the worst noted director has ever given you? Oh.

Anything that was longer than a sentence. Someone's made to do press-ups before a take. Yeah, I know. That's very fucked up. I did the press ops, but I didn't love it. Just feel it. I need you to feel that. Do it less gay. I think when their note contradicted itself. Just get through it faster.

Faster. But then they go, but deliver it slower. And it's like, okay, yeah. More energy. How do you respond to that? I die inside. Worst note a director has ever given you. Silent thumbs.

Because it's not a more funny. Just like funnier. Not funny, more funny. And I remember going, oh God. it's all over it's like you're conducting an orchestra but everybody's playing different notes what it isn't jelling

don't do that that's bad don't print it what would be the last time that the director thinks that but you might be the only person who says it in those terms and respect you sir I mean don't print it that was wonderful now do it again and make me believe you

that was that meant as constructive that's exactly what you fucking make me man and don't suck so hard I hate it when they're like, hey, let's talk about your dad. I'll get there. When a director brings you on to set and goes, so you're going to, and they just read out what's on the page. And I'm like, yeah, no, I've got that.

I can read that. It's the context that I need. A director once asked me, am I a good director? Weird than media was. Get out. Get out. We're rehearsing. and we're walking down a bike alleyway.

But we're in a room that's smaller than this. All right, cool. We'll just stand here. Boys, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. I can't watch this. It's just, it's so fake. Listen, all you need to do is, on the spot, just do a bit of this. I'm not doing this, mate.

It's so silly. He was a bit of a dick. Sometimes as a director will ask you to do exactly what you just did. Again, okay. You're like, but we just did that, I think? What I do now? I get a bad note or another. I agree.

I agree. You go. Oh, yeah, yeah. Of course. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, oh, totally, great. And then you do exactly the same thing. And then they go. Yeah, that was great.

So you want to give them respect, but also be like, are you losing a fight? So fun. Zoe, you're a newbie. Do you have a contribution here? Worst note a director has ever given you. Oh, shoot. I mean, yeah, faster.

better maybe yeah yeah I guess funnier yeah what do you that's not very specific sorry there's yeah I mean

I black out when that happens oh good good good that thing is happening and what is the other job I'm going to do when I quit this business striking the commonality like so many of those notes you've all heard the same

thing like yeah Anyway. Oh, I often, sorry, I often, sometimes it sounds like English is my second language, and it's really the only language I speak. And I, yeah, and I can hit the wrong, I can make a word that's not the operative word, the operative word sometimes. And that's not fun when someone has to come in and go, that's a really weird place to emphasize. That's what Christopher Walken's been doing for 50 years. Come on. We have one more amazing guest, a returning champion to Happy Sack and Fuse. She is Comic-Con royalty. You know from Blind Spot. You know her from, of course. She's OG Marvel. Siff is in the house.

Give it up for Jamie Alexander, everybody. Come on. Here she is. Hi. There she is. Jamie. Oh, my gosh. All this for me?

All this for you. Oh, should I have come this way? Hi, you guys. Hello. Hello. Jamie, welcome. Oh, okay. I thought you were still wearing the headpiece.

I'm disappointed, Jim. I would have burst into flame. I'm so sorry. Would you like these Doritos? I would, actually. Thank you. Wow, the cast is divided. The panel's divided. David Harbor and all the rest of us.

Oh, they suck. I'm literally, I'm not sharing these. I've been backstage listening to you people talk about these damn things for like an hour, and I'm starving, and I was going to get a burger, but I'm going to pregame with these. There you go. It's comp. For a laughter of my own heart. Do you like them, Sam?

I mean, yeah, I'm waiting for you to open them, Jamie, but... I'm not doing that here, you'll take it. And also, can it be, like, let's be clear, there is only one Jamie Alexander. Whoa. Okay. Okay, here we go. So, wait, what was brewing backstage?

You were alluded to a competition of some sort. What were you guys talking about? I hate you for bringing that up, by the way. What? I did nothing. I mean, if you're going to steal the Doritos. Wow. Jamie, the real Jamie Alexander, challenged the fake... No, I didn't.

I did not challenge you. You saw it. No. I didn't see how it started. I just saw the end and it seemed like you both were doing a great job. I was getting a little tired. It's really dark back there, you guys. I didn't have anybody to play with and I was like, I need to wake up.

So I just started doing push-ups on my knuckles because that's what I do. And then, you know, he-man over here was like, like, can I also? And I said, sure, but like, I already did a bunch and I can't do that many. And then, of course, in the time that I did four, he did like 456, but that's fine. And my friend videoed it. So it exists. It doesn't make me look very good, but, you know. This is not true. Josh, I texted it to you. Oh, perfect. I'm looking forward to it. I turn around. I saw Jamie lying on the floor. I'm a gentleman. I offered to help her up. Sure.

Jack was taking his clothes off. Yeah. As he does. As I do. As he a push-up contest, I take my clothes off. Those are the rules. And someone open the Doritos. We got a party.

It's like the 90s. Season three. Oh my gosh. A little healthy competition is good. I'm happy this happened tonight. Jamie, you're a Comic-Con vet. I mean, talk to me about the first couple times you came to a Comic-Con, probably San Diego, I would imagine, for Thor in those early days.

Did it blow your mind? And that's got to be an indelible memory. It was incredible. I mean, I love it here. I feel like I'm at home. It's, you know, I did, to be fair, I did want to dress up in a kilt because I thought it would be hilarious. But I couldn't find one. That's one word of describe.

I didn't hear you, and I'm glad I didn't. It's probably for the best you're not sitting next to me, because I can, I got a good right hook. So back to Thor. I'm so scared right now. Thank you. Jack, stay where you are, because otherwise there will be bloodshed. Okay. But yeah, I love being here.

It's really fun, and I've, you know, it's been a long road with Marvel. And, but I've had a great time, and it's, you know, facilitated things like this, where I get to hang out with all of you guys and your incredible costumes and your personalities and everything. And you guys have definitely added some spice to New York, for sure. Do you remember the first time? You must have seen cosplay over the years

as your characters. That's got to be a moment in someone's career. You don't count on that as a young actor. It's amazing. When I first saw people dress up as Lady Siff, I actually was like, damn, their costume is better than the one I wore in the first movie. I was like, and they can move in it, what?

But then for Blindspot, I had a lot of people dressing up with, like, the tattoos, and I really felt for you guys if you did that because they are impossible to get off. Like, I would have, I had, like, glue on my body for, like, weeks. I would just pick up gnats, glass, whatever, is flying around. I'm not kidding. I would do a fight scene and literally be like, oh, my God, like, what's in there?

You know? But it's really cool, you guys. It's just so creative and so. so rewarding to see that something that I enjoy doing so much makes people happy. Like, it's a good feeling. At this point, is it a non-starter? You open a script and it says your character has tattoos. You're like, I've been there.

I went to the extreme. Like, what more could you do? I literally, you guys, just FYI, there was not a place on my body without a tattoo. Like, the palms of my hands and the bottom of my hands. feet I literally between the cheeks everywhere like they were everywhere because I couldn't it was NBC they're like we can't see anything so we're just gonna cover you with tattoos that's right Sam don't shake your head at me I know I'm going to a very happy place well I mean you know at least I was covered with tattoos

whoa guys please I can't handle this right now I'm so glad you're here oh man I'm not. Tell me more about the tattoos, Jim. Shit. Well, they were sticky. Listen, they were, it was the weirdest thing I've ever put on my body, which if you've seen the stuff I've done, it says a lot. But yeah, it's really cool. I am yet to play a normal person. I just can't fucking get a job where I play a normal woman. So. Yeah, like most actors like of these extreme roles. You're like, Jamie's dream is play a lady, play a woman. Can she walk down the street without murdering something? Nope. That's okay. It's easy to cover

my real life. Exactly. Have any of you, I would imagine a few of you might have seen tattoos of your characters on people's bodies over the years. Is that a very high stakes thing happens every now and then when I do a convention. They're like, can you sign my arm? I'm about to go to the tattoo parlor and get that, like, just, you know, they'll trace over that and create a tattoo. And that's the most amount of pressure to sign something well in the world.

I'm like, I'm very flattered. Are you sure you want me on your body forever? You have to ask those questions. Thank you. She said yes. Thank you. We found the one. Appreciate you.

She now has your signature as well, so she's stealing your identity. I'm going to have you all. sign me tonight and get it all tattooed afterwards. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're down. Seems like a wise idea, right? Then we're gonna stick Doritos to you.

We do have some fan questions. Tracy loves sad Jamie wants to know for all the guests. What is this theme song for your life? Send in the clowns. Oh, I'm not fast enough for this, Sam. It's okay. Oh, God, Celine Dion, it's all coming back to me now. There you go.

I get knocked down by Chumbabwamba. Yes. It's technically called Tub Thumbin, but for the sake of the bit. Thunderstruck ACDC. Oh, come on. Let's go to Lizzie here for Jack. Were there any Easter eggs fans didn't catch from the past season of the boys? Oh, my God, Easter eggs from the past season.

We throw a lot in there. I think like throughout the show, there are these little things, like, for fans of, like, all of Eric Kripke's bodies of work, he puts in, like, little, you know, like the pizza restaurant is called, like, Tony Cicero's. So it's like, it's called Tony Cicero's

in Supernatural and Timeless and all of his work. So if you look really closely, you'll see Easter eggs from, like, all of Eric Kripke's. You can't say filmography, televisionography? There you go. Sure.

Oh, yeah. Let's go with that. Julie, oh, in fact, you guys are moving fast, let's see. Oh, Crystal wants to know, this is a selfish one. If you could add Josh into any of your shows, who would you cast him as, and why? I don't know why there's an LOL at the end of the question. That wasn't necessary. For the reboot of Stranger Things, he would be the lead overweight child.

With a large man teaching him out of lift weights for the first time. son come over here for the new blood of my blood which is the prequel show I think Josh would definitely have to play my father yeah sold in the jeans right

yeah yeah can you play your cell phone on the boys and just interview the deep I just want that to happen you don't die don't worry hook me up man amazing I'm not answering that let's do let's do the one

Jamie in blind spot you know this question you've heard this one how long did it take to apply tattoos for the episodes from Kim okay so legit nine hours I would be in makeup standing I wasn't allowed to sit or anything so there's like yeah it's a puzzle and so we would listen to like really inappropriate podcasts and stuff it got weird but and then about three to four hours to take them off You earned your paycheck on that one. I'm still alive. Let's do for all from Catherine,

what would be your chance for a zombie apocalypse and then it went away? Chances in a zombie apocalypse, would you survive? Do you have what it takes? I would. Zero chance. You have no skills.

I'd win, is that what you say? I'd win. I feel like Jamie in this group would survive the zombie apocalypse. Yeah. Yeah. Don't you have a whole arsenal of weapons of them? You can't walk down the street

without murdering someone. Well, Jack. We're going to go to Jamie's house and survive there. I do have a lot of weapons at my house. Sharp, not guns, just sharp objects. And a hammer. I have a Thor hammer. Does that make it better?

Yeah, there we go. Sam. I've been reading a lot of sociology recently. I've been reading a lot of sociology recently, a lot of dark sociology. Today, there was a gentleman on a bike. who was texting, who ran into me. So I'm in the middle of the zombie apocalypse.

Wow. And I am trying to survive. If you are riding a bike, do not text on your phone. In fact, let's all put them down and look at each other. Here's one from Ethan for you, David. How is filming Thunderbolts and Stranger Things at the same time? Did you have to do that? How is it what? Filming Thunderbolts?

Both at the same time. Is that kind of schizophrenic to kind of want to do that? Yeah, they actually kind of worked it out there where I could just do Thunderbolts for two weeks, but I do, you know, I did have to justify, because the beard is sort of Red Guardian, and so I did have to work through a big justification of why Hopper grew this insane beard this season, but you'll see it in my face. You'll understand when you see it. Can't wait to see you electrocuted. We've seen the sneak preview of that already. I'm going to introduce some, as we wrap up, some new happy, sad, confused, profoundly random questions that we've never done. I'm going to try these out and see if they work.

Strangest thing any of you have ever done to prepare for a role. Something jumped out, an extreme length you went for, maybe it was an audition, maybe it was the actual role, that in retrospect seems what was I thinking? I can, well, okay. The first Thor, I went in to see Kevin Feigy, and I had my purse and I happened to carry a knife

and I it was also that time of the month now it gets worse and I my purse fell off the chair and there was a tampon and a knife and like all this stuff and then somehow it came up

that I have four brothers and so they were basically like so okay you're SIF so there you go so I really it was just I was myself tag you're it Jack oh shit I had to learn how to play the bongos for Oppenheimer, which is the thing I never thought I'd say in my life.

David Krumholtz is in that movie. He plays the bongos for not one but two, Grateful Dead cover bands. And yeah, he rules. And he would give me like bongo lessons in the lobby of our hotel. And I wouldn't say I'm the greatest bongest who ever lived. You know, I'm getting there.

I'm getting there. Yeah. We can go to the next unless anybody else says anything. I mean, a long time, I started my career, I had to audition for the Monkees, the remake of the musical show, and I can't sing, I can't dance, and I can't play the guitar.

I went out and bought a guitar. I traveled down to London, and I walked into the audition, and then they said, do your piece. You can see how that went, right? Wow, they were doing a new monkey. That's the shocking part of that story. That's crazy.

Right. Is there an actor that you're convinced you would vibe with on screen? And in your heart of hearts, you're like, I see that actor one day, we're going to click. It makes sense. I thought me and Jamie would, but that dream died tonight. Well, I mean, you know, we could. I love that nobody answered that.

We're like, no, actor's like, I've been blabbing. I don't know about you guys. I mean, I love I love Will Ferrell and I would love to do a movie with Will Ferrell. Oh, that seems like a no-brainer. Do any of you have a recurring dream

or nightmare that has popped up in your life? Living it now, I think. I still have a nightmare from when I used to serve, when I was a waitress. I still worry about a burger that I did not fire

for table 42. And they're still waiting for it, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. Do you have like anxiety dreams like during or before work, before a job? Is that...

All the time. I have a thing. I'm sure you guys have had it to where I'm going to bed after a long day of work. It is completely silent in my room. But my brain still hears the rhythm of the set.

Like you hear kind of just, voices that don't say anything but they're just kind of like and uh-huh and I just that will just kind of play as I'm trying to fall asleep and it is probably a form

of schizophrenia if I'm thinking about it but it's great I have the classic actor's nightmare do you guys have that one like there's a classic actor's nightmare where you're backstage you're about to do a play and you don't know any of your lines

are what the play is, and you're not wearing any pants. And I have that literal nightmare all the time. And the stage manager is like, go, go, go, go. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know the play. Hello, and then I wake up in a sweat. I had that dream until I had to actually go on stage with no pants. Like, nightmare, that's my life. Yeah.

Don't threaten me with a good time. Is there a line in your career that you had to utter that was so cumbersome, so insane, you will never forget it because you had to put so much work into remembering this techno babble, this bizarre, whatever? I mean, I did this show when I was like 22 called Kyle X, Y. And my character for some reason had to give the Latin term for every fucking guy. disease. So it was like Staphylococcus aureus and like all this stuff. And I, you know, I grew up in Texas. I don't know how to say that. It was just terrible. Somebody else speak. I did a, I did kind of the opposite of that. Like I did this

movie called Grand Turismo last year. And it was like, it's one of these parts where there's a lot of time spent, you know, he's talking to the driver. So it was me of this great actor, Archie. And so there's just a ton of coverage of just me like staring at a screen going like you know and they had like nothing written so it was just me going like coming around that turn

come around that turn make that turn make sure you get around that turn make the car go around the track get it on the straightaway now go fast it's like I had to make up like tons of shit that's a nightmare

and it was it was a nightmare Eat those Doritos, go get those Doritos! Like, I wish I had technical stuff to say it instead of just David Harvard trying to be a race car driver. If you can believe it, guys, we're careening towards the end. This has been such a special night. I know! A few things to mention before we go. I do want to plug some of the projects we discussed here tonight.

Creature Commandos, check it out. It's amazing. It's on Max in December. Night Bitch, we didn't even mention also. It was a great film that Zoe's in coming out very soon. Outlander, of course, Sassanak Spirits, of course, Star Trek lower decks, of course. We're going to cast Jamie as a normal damn human being one of these days. One of these days.

We're going to manifest it. Before we go, I do have some gifts because we have a tradition at Happy Sack Confused. When you are on the show for five times, you get a frickin' hat, guys. And we have two five-timers tonight. Here we go, guys. five-timer club member David Harbour everybody I had no idea

I want to thank Josh I want to thank all of you five-timer club Sam Hewin everybody and look I couldn't let everybody feel left out so two-timer club member

Jack Quaid everybody thank you very much America Two-timer club member, Jamie Alexander, everybody. And the very rare one-timer club member hat to Zoe Chow, everybody. Congratulations. Look at you. You're all beautiful. Look at you. Amazing. My dream has come true.

Welcome to our cult. This is the new fashion, this entire ensemble. Some quick earnest thanks, as painful as it is for me to be earnest for a moment. want to thank a lot of people that help get me here today. Helping out on the show tonight. Sammy Heller, Mark Krasoffice, Maeve Kieran's, Colin Rooney, Chris Lou Perry. They were all invaluable. And look, it's been 10 years of happy second fuse.

So as you can imagine, even though my name's on it, a lot of people have helped along the way. So just indulge me for 30 seconds. Joel Hannick, C.J. Smith, Jonathan Kaplan, Alan Miller, Scott Porch, Christian Harloff, Chris Van Bland, Benjamin Wagner, Van Scheach, Chudder Verdi, Ricky Weiss, Warren, Bradshaw, Sean McNulty, Ryan McDonald and all of New York Comic-Con. My family's here tonight. Thank you for coming.

And this amazing audience that kind of made Happy Second Hughes History tonight, thank you so much. And of course, my utmost thanks to you wonderful people for sharing this very special night with me. You're the best. I thank you all. I love you all.

Thank you for sharing this with me, in all honesty. It's been a special run. we're not stopping. Don't worry. Ten more years of Happy, Sack, and Fuse coming soon. And last but not least, if you look under your seats, 10 people are lucky enough to get special posters. So look under your seats. There are stickies.

If you have one that says HSC, not you, David, you don't get one. If you have one, you're going to go over here and you get a poster on your way out. So that's the show. That's 10 years of Happy Sank and Fuse. Thank you all so much for being here tonight. Thank you. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused.

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