Happy Sad Confused - David Harbour (Vol. II) & Patrick Wilson & Justin Long (Vol. II) (Live episode!)

Episode Date: December 23, 2019

What took us so long? After five years of "Happy Sad Confused" we finally went live for a fun holiday special taped at the Bell House in Brooklyn! Joining Josh for the wild night was David Harbour talking all things "Stranger Things" & "Black Widow" Later, Patrick Wilson joined the fun for a chat and a couple memorable songs. Finally Justin Long joined the crew showing off his array of impressions. Happy holidays from Happy Sad Confused! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, Josh here with a quick preamble to today's Happy Say I Confused. The following is a live taping of Happy Say I Confused at the Bell House in Brooklyn. It was our very first live event ever. Because of that, the audio quality might not be up to the standards that you usually hear on the show. It might be a little bit low.

Might be some issues here and there. But for the most part, this should be good for your ears. Hope you guys are having a happy holiday and enjoy this first ever live Happy Sad Confused. Today on Happy Second Fused, we're live at the Bell House in Brooklyn with David Harbor and friends. Hi, guys. How's it going? Look at all you pretty people. There are no Jews here tonight, are there?

Or your bad Jews? Oh, look at you. Good. I'm a bad Jew, too. Happy holidays, everybody. Happy Hanukkah, happy Christmas, happy whatever you're celebrating. Thank you for coming up a good one tonight. This is also.

So, yeah, I've been doing this podcast for five years. I don't know what took me so long, but this is our very first live show, and I'm so excited of you guys are here tonight. Thank you. Yeah, there's a lot of shows to come. We've got some really amazing people hiding backstage. If they don't run out on me, hopefully David Harbour is going to show up in a couple minutes.

We've got the amazing Patrick Wilson. He's going to sing his ass off for you. And the O. He's farming. One of my favorite people that's going to be awesome. We've got some games. We're going to give out some new stuff. Yeah, you people like blue stuff. I can see it in your eyes.

Before we get to David and friends, I want to bring out Sammy. Sammy, come on out here. Sammy is the other voice unhappy, say I confused. She's hauling props with her. Look at that. She's multitasking. Look at that. You're milking the applause.

We took your time so you did a lot of it. Only let me out of the bunker, like once a month. Right. Okay, have a seat, Sam. Is this a good idea, Sammy? This took us so long to get you. How are you feeling tonight? I'm very excited with this time.

Like, I feel like this is something you've been talking about for a long time, and then I feel like this is a couple weeks ago that you're like, hey, you're doing that, like, hey, you're doing that, people you could have told me, like, a year ago. You need a year of prep? Yes. Okay. Okay. Yes. People are speaking. This is a big moment.

This is a big moment. Yeah. If all else fails, we're just going to talk about Star Wars for the next hour and a half. How many times? How many times? I've seen three times. I have a lot of thoughts. It came out on Friday.

It's Sunday. I have nothing else in my life right now. Yeah, we're not going to... Well, we'll see it. Maybe David Harbour and friends want to talk about Star Wars. Brinted out of the back. I heard the door slam. One thing at the outside I do want to talk about

because I talked about some goodies. Sammy is not opposed. She is a legit Sam, too, an outlander thing. Thank you so much. Thank you. Psychopath, thank you for blotting that. I appreciate it. She's like my advisor.

So like when Sam comes by and I need to like really look like I know what I'm talking about. It makes me really mad. I don't want to do it in front of these people, but like watch this show. Okay. Don't be like that. Like, I am, I've seen it. I've shown him some wedding night, ladies, wedding now. He's seen the cliff.

I love me some Sam here and he was a delight. We've been very kind to be in the podcast. We can't suspect that you'd probably seen will be more. And it's kind enough to donate a few autographed copies of this great book after. I'm going to grab it. Sammy, talk amongst yourselves. Josh wouldn't let me go pick up the book from him directly. Even though he'd let me meet him a couple of times,

but never like un-gated that during it. So I just want to say that a little selfie about it. But I understand the greater good. I think you stole one already. I think you actually own this. So this is the making of Outlander. I want to give a shout out to Tara Bennett. It was very kind to contribute these copies of the book.

They have been signed by Mr. Hewinn. Those of you that are fans of Sam and Outlander have submitted your raffle tickets. And without any further ado, let's pull a ticket. You like caressed all of them, I think. I can't. I can't. You really want you. Okay.

Okay. So when you hear your number, just come up to the front of the state. come up to the front of the stage and don't have it to you, we're old school. I will say my mom is here, and if she wins, Mom, I'm going to go away or take it. It could go to you, Sammy. You could take it. A bunker perp. Okay. 722-332. Oh, it's so dark.

None of you can read it at all. Let's read it one more time. 7-2-3-2. Two. Oh. That was great. Okay. All right.

Keep going, Sammy. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, next one. 7-2-2-2-2-99. Oh, no. Is that a fake out? I don't know what that was.

Oh, we got someone. We got someone. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Keep it going. Okay.

Okay. 7-2-2-3-13. Yes. I have the tension with a knife. All right. Good news, I have one more special thing. As Eddie devoted, Sam Hugh and Sam knows, he also has a call called My Peak Challenge. Yeah, so he gave us an autographed hat and a year-long number slip to one of you guys.

So we're going to pull up one name and you're going to get a nice little autograph. autographing one-year members of my peak time. All right, here it is. 7-2-2-3-4-5. Only once. 7-2-2-3-4-5. Oh! Yay!

Great. Vanessa, who's sneaking up behind you now, is going to take your information. Oh, yes. First off, it's going to give you. We've done, we've never done this. Amazing, okay, so that's the giveaway for now. We have some other goodies that are gonna go out a little bit later on, so stay tuned.

Sammy, thank you for stopping and chatting with us today. Okay, so I do want to mention one thing before we bring up David. All proceeds to tonight's event are two great causes. I want to mention both of them in brief. both of them in brief one of them is called community works and this is a non-profit arts and education organization that was actually started in my basement my mom started this organization so it's very close to my heart yeah give it up for mom horowitz it was founded in 1990 with the mission to bridge schools and communities and rich educational curricula and celebrate neighborhood

cultures and history so if you guys are at all interested in contributing to that sort of thing you can send your interest the info at CommunityWorks, NYC.com. That's info at CommunityWorks, NYC. The other organization is one of the world's most effective environment of which the Natural Resources Defense Council. For 50 years, they've been seeing polluters, cleaning up our air and water,

and protecting endangered species and places. So just yes, give it up. You know, all they're doing is saving the planet, that little thing. To show your support, please text climate to act on climate. Let's text climate to act on climate and join NRDC's 3 million supporters in the fight for cleaner, brighter, research. Okay, that's enough do-gooder stuff for now. Let's get to the fun, exciting part of tonight.

Not a fun, exciting part, but I want to bring out our main guest. He is a star of stage, of TV, of film. He's a screen actor's guild winner. He's a two-time Screen Actors Guild nominee this year. He's endlessly charming. He's endlessly counted. He's a human meme generator. Let's give it up for one of my favorite human beings,

Mr. David Harbour. What's up, Brooklyn? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A meme generator. By the way, that's a euphemism for he's an idiot. No, he's just an idiot.

We'll just do anything to allow. Look at a sweater. Let's give it up for the sweater. Yeah, right. Look at that. Huh? I just got this at Kmart. I'm not the only one wearing this, I'm sure.

As you can see, Santa has the high score. by raining down terror on fire-breathing dragons worth 10 points each. If you're just listening to this at home, hopefully we'll have photo evidence for you on the website in some way. Yeah, no. This is an extraordinarily complex thing that's happening on this sweater. I have no idea what it means. There's a lot going on.

It's like the Torah or something. You can study this for generations. The secrets of the universe. And one day, ancient scholars will unlock the key to say, this high score and why he is the winner. Yeah. Can I ask a question about Sanda real quick before we get into anything? Yeah.

Okay, I'm not sure I'm the world's best resource, but go ahead. I was told to come out here and ask you specifically. Why do we lie to children like as a culture? I love it. Right. And I was having this conversation with a friend of mine just saying like I think it's the greatest thing ever. because why did I think it was great yeah you just dug your own hole buddy

yeah I just I don't know why I just thought it was great because it was just kind of silly it's a nice thing to believe they all yeah we all get together and we're all like let's just trick these kids up until they're like seven right and then they get annoyed with us but let's all culturally do it and anytime you meet a kid it's like hey Santa's coming you've been nice

Like we're all in on the joke. I just think that's a really lovely thing. And it goes across party line. Democrat, Republican, conservative, liberal. We all want to trick children. The thing that brings us all together. The humiliation and abjects lying to children. That's the platform for 2020.

How's your holiday season going, man? You're looking spelt, we have to say. What is this tall drink of water? Oh, oh, look at that. Stop it. Okay, no, go on. No, yeah, no, I've lost a couple. I mean, I guess you've last seen me

has been season three of Stranger Things where I was, thank you very much, yes. Thank you very much. And I know you're all applauding how large I was in that. Yes, I know. It's fun. I know it's fun. Yeah, I was a big guy.

And then in this little movie I'm coming out of May called Black Widow, too. I'm also a rather large, I'm also a rather large individual. So if you haven't seen me in the last six months, my waistline has come down considerably. It feels like it's a waste of, look, the whole thing about Stranger Things is you kind of like helped, you know, the dad bod thing happen. I know, I know, I know. And then it's like you've abandoned all of us. No, no, no, I'm going to go Kumail Nanjani on you now. Oh, God.

What do you think about that? The nerve. That guy. I saw him because we all had to do Comic-Con together, and, you know, all the Marvel people were back. By the way, if you've never been in a Marvel movie and gone to a Comic-Con. How many have you had been in a Marvel movie? until I was 44, you're backstage with like every actor you've ever loved your whole life.

You're like, yeah, well, there's Angelia eating a ham sandwich. But, yeah, I saw him at that thing, and I was like, hey, what's the, it touches his arm or something. It was like this stone cement block of incredibleness, and I was just immediately mad. I'm sure you both can reciprocate to each other soon enough. I still got some love handles, though. Those will never go. So, yeah, applause for love handles. Seriously.

So, okay, we've talked, you know, in depth on the podcast about the arc of your career and everything. I'm just curious, like, so, you know, just to many, it seemed like this overnight success story in your 40s. And what's it like for you, like, when you hear people, like, suddenly notice you and think that, like, you came out of nowhere, Is part of you, like, I've been doing it for 20 years? There's actually a large body of work. If you go back and look, or is it all, like, all good? I have been doing it for 20-plus years, but I don't think there's a large body board. There's no reason I, myself, consider it, I'm always like, people are like, oh, what are you?

And I'm like, oh, yeah, I do a show called Changeson. They're like, what do you want us to watch? I'm like, that's dope. Like, I mean, and then I think to myself like, no, sir, you've done a lot of great projects. on stage and they're ephemeral and they go out and no one knows them and they don't have this lexicon of work like and then I'm like no I didn't really do that many great plays either but I like hung out for a long time and I auditioned a hell of a lot whoa I have been auditioning for what would be centuries to other people I mean thousands of people

have rejected me groups of people like you remember a network called the WB I don't think that network's around anymore, right? It's the CW now, right? Yeah, yeah, okay. But it's kind of the same thing. But back when I was auditioning for it, it was called the WB. And it was a dancing frog. It wasn't a peak.

I was a dancing frog with a top hat and a cane. Strange it didn't last. Weird. Strange it didn't last with that kind of great marketing. Yeah, well, they were also known for their award-winning content. Their incredible, sophisticated shows. So many times they thought I would. was terrible. I mean, just being like, this guy's awful. Just years and years and years of this.

So if you're starting out in the acting business, Merry Christmas. Do you think, okay, this is the crusade, like what if, 10, 15 years ago, if this success had happened, if this role had happened, would you have been able to handle it? No, I would have been a nightmare of a human being. I would have taken it. very seriously and taken myself even more seriously. Like I would have been the genius that I always knew I was. And I'm so grateful that it didn't happen. Because once you hit 40, you sort of realize that you're just going to die.

Like sooner rather than later. And so you might as well not take yourself that seriously because, you know, whatever, you're just some guy. And so. The holiday special, thanks for bringing your tears. Santa Claus doesn't exist. The fact that I brought death into it so early. I know.

Oh, well. Oh, well. And it's true. Yeah. Well, but I, uh, I do feel like, had it, had it happened, you know, in my 20s, it would have been a nightmare. But even guys in their 30, right? Like a man who's, like, 30, who's, like, starting to get the household is like, like, just in a day.

possible person right you have to really get into your corner start to realize that like it's not that big of you right right okay so the show itself uh three seasons in um is it surprise you frankly that it's been as riskfully rewarding and continuously kind of regenerates and kind of goes in places that are creatively satisfying for you because that's that's the the scary part of being on a long-running show is like oh god that's season three they start throwing it in but if anything but they're better than the other two seasons. I loved it, right? I loved it, yeah.

It's so different, too, though, right? Yeah. I mean, for me, it was, you know, the fact that you get to do, it's almost like you get to play a different character. Like, he is the same character and he has these great things about him that I love. But even if you look at his costume,

you know, you look at Gilligan. Like, and every year it's that red, for the younger members of the audience, there was a show on television called Gilligan's Island. Gilligan was a gentleman who was trapped on the island, the lead of the show, shall we say? It was kind of like lost.

It was kind of like lost. It was kind of like lost. It was kind of like lost without any of that. There was an island. Well done, Harwitz. I'm trying to connect it to the kids. No, I, we all appreciate it. And Gilligan wore a

red shirt and a white hat. He was the first mate. Yeah. Skipper. So, Gilligan, every year wore this, and I think the show ran like 70 seasons, and Gilligan at the beginning was, like, cast when he was like, you know, 25 or something, and then, and then even when he was 70, he still playing, but he's still out on the red skirt, and that right, it's amazing to watch, and Hopper gets to wear different shirts, and he gets to have different, he gets that different waistlines, he gets to grow, he gets that different face, I mean, but, like, literally, it becomes. come to a different human being like we all do kind of every year and that to me is what's so satisfying about the show that you watch what has happened from season one, two, two, and you can have your favorite, you know, the people that like love season one, get up in, you know, they loved about it, or the people that like love season three and

that's all fine but to me the ability to actually play in that, in that realm, on a television show is like, you never get to do that, so I love it. What about the complexity of working with kids as they transition in age from very pivotal ages? Like some, like you're going to puberty, et cetera. That's like a dicey time for anybody, and you're working with these kids. Is it different working with these kids now, three years in, than it was at the start? You know what? I did an interview.

I got Facebook by an old teacher, high school teacher, who said that he heard me do an interview about kids. this a lot. I'll say like, they're like five, 15-year-old boys. And I was like, who, when you go to work, you're like, you know who I want to hang out with today? Five 15-year-old boys. And I've said this before, and then I got paid by my teacher, and I thought, oh, yeah, I'm forgetting that they're teachers. So I just want to say, sorry, teacher. This is in general. I guess there are people that are like, you know what? I'll go hang out with 15-year-old boys today.

For me, it was not the goal. I did not sign up to be a teacher. It's weird. You know, they are growing, and it's getting weirder. Like in the beginning, it was just weird that you're hanging out with 11 and 12-year-olds, and after you do a good team, they want to hug. right that's that that's the thing it's like that it's weird but it's like all weird and now it's like you know they want to come up and ask you questions they you don't want to talk about that

there's a lot of that happens and then the smells right i mean i don't i'm not a particularly great smelling creature anyway but a 15 year old boy right no that's not the way the way they changes hour to hour and it doesn't get better ever. How's Winona doing? It's great. I love Winona. You know I love Winona Ryder, right? Thank God for Winona Ryder. Does Winona text? Does he know how to text?

Yeah, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. I got some Winona text right here. text right here what is very sweet when she text um emojis uh no no no no although there is i'm going to do some i'll do a little celebrity gossip text thing ready this is my favorite ever so i've done two plays excuse me why i dropped this name on the floor with a fellow sag nominee for the irishman mr alpuccino And I do occasionally text with Al Pacino.

And you think, like, the greatest living actor, he's a monolith in your head. You know what I mean? Like, in your head, you're just like, how could you be any more amazing than Al Pacino? And then you see him text, and it's like your crazy uncle. Where it's just like, it would just be like, I don't know, I'll text or say it. I don't know, going on some talk shows. And he'd be like, my boy! X-Wage, Y, Wage, Wage, Wage, Y, Mote, Emoji, like Caterpillar, Top Hat, Music Note, Music Note, Dancer guy.

And that makes no sense. You know what's crazy? I can corroborate this. Jessica Tastan has told me that exact same thing. No, really? He is a heavy, crazy emoji now. Yeah. I know.

He's still great in the Irishman, though. Let's give him that. Let's give them that. So, okay, with all this newfound power and juice in your career, did you know what you wanted to do with the hopper juice when it was time to... When what? Career-wise. Oh, career-wise.

Yeah, were you like, I got my thought now. Here's what I'm going to do with it. Yeah, I just want to make as many mistakes as I possibly can. Exhaust people's patience with me. No, I... You know... I, it's funny, like, I've been in such, and I think it is as a result of things coming later, a success coming later in life for me, I've always had to be sort of a journeyman actor.

Like, I've always had to take jobs to pay the rent. Like, it's never been a choice, a job that I've done until now. Like, I've never turned down work for 20 years when I was working. So I've always, what it's forced my perspective to do is that I have to find the good in it. Like there'll be scripts that I'll read and I'll have to go like, oh, I could be something better. That could be interesting. So I've never really thought too much about carving out of past. I mean, I've been lucky that since this thing has come along, like fun things have come around.

I mean, I know that after my experience with a certain comic's franchise, I was not that excited to get back into the comic's franchise. business because I felt like maybe it wasn't for me and and then Black Widow came along and there was a script was really fresh and they knew and they wanted to do you know it's really cool stuff with it and so that was really kind of yeah I want to take reserve on Black Widow for a second okay okay you guys have seen the new trailer is awesome on the backstage yeah so even as a comic book nerd i i wasn't familiar to confess the red guardian but he looks like a like a chewy role for an actor um what was cool and exciting what was

i mean he looks like a fun guy to play what was cool about yeah i mean i keep wondering what i can tell you the trailer's out in so i can tell you something well there's clearly a family dynamic you see it literally at the table right right and you see him in that suit which has a Captain America vibe to it and you see that he is still able to fit into the suit although at one point maybe it had been easier to fit into his suit so you know I mean the thing was when it's pitched to me it's this idea that this guy you know in Russia there was a whole other world happening as Captain America and the US is doing their own thing and they're sort of the forgotten about the stepchild and so we got to

a chance to explore this but even in the comics red guardian is treated in many different ways the red guardian mantle is passed around to different people i guess like the captain american mantle somewhat um but we kind of came up with our own thing with me one of the things i love about him the most though is the fact that he is past his crime uh and i always like uh perversion weird word to use when you're talking about comic book but I like unique takes on a superhero journey you know i mean not the straight-up thing so it's like he yeah he's in a weird place with his superhero myth and even with his outfit um and with what he's about and so when when it was pitched to me by kate i remember her saying he's getting very fundamental things about the character And I know when director talked to me a lot of times, I get over, you know, I'll be like, oh, I get it. Like, I know what it is. And then she kept revealing to me these other things about him that are so different with the attorney and stuff.

So, like, even that trailer that you see, it's a great funny moment, it's a great, but he has so many colors to him. Every time she told me new things about him, it makes sense, but it was like, I can't believe you're going to take him, I can't believe you're going to allow him to do it. I think what we shot was beautiful. I think Kate Cortland is a beautiful, incredible director. Rachel Weiss is like, you know, a being sent from heaven to grace us with their presence. Florence Q is like one of the most amazing young actresses of her generation. I was a legend already of, like, you know, 20 million years ago.

So I think it's going to be a really interesting move. I was really excited. I want to mention we'll have time for a couple questions. There's a microphone right here in front of. If you guys want to line up for a couple questions, feel free. I want to compliment you on your amazing turn hosting SNL recently. Thank you. Yeah.

Thank you. I don't know if that's a bucket list moment or the kind of thing, That wasn't even like in your, you couldn't fathom a moment like that, but like, were you nervous, were excited? What was that experience like? Yeah, it was the most incredible. It was a total bucket. I mean, I didn't even put that on the bucket list, to be honest, because I never thought it would happen. But the fact that it happened was incredible.

That experience is really fascinating. You, about Wednesday, you go in Monday, the kitchen thing, Tuesday, there's nothing's written come Wednesday morning. And I remember on Wednesday, sitting in Thompson's Square Park thinking, how do I break my legs so I don't have to do this? So I can find a way to get out of this that's legitimate because I'm terrified that I'm going to ruin my career. I'm not going to be funny. Everyone's going to think I'm a cloying, horrible ham. And it's just going to ruin my career. And then, like, things happened Thursday, Friday, you start rehearsing, and started shooting that grouch, sketch.

Thank you. Wasn't that, David, wasn't that your idea? That is mine and this lovely woman, Lily Allen's idea. That was the only thing I pitched to them. It was the only thing I pitched to them. Originally it was Barney the Dinosaur, by the way. But then I started seeing that and it starts to get better. And then right before you go on for the dress rehearsal, it sunk again.

And I was like, I got to get out of the building. And people held me in the dressing room. And you do the dress rehearsal, and then once I did, started doing the show, when I went out there and said, I can't believe I'm hosting down, like, whatever, the first line on the C-Card was, it was like, it was a peace moment. I mean, I think it's one of those things that's like when you're playing the Super Bowl. Whatever happens tonight, whether you think I'm funny or not, I'm playing the Super Bowl. So, that's, you would, bravo, to all, yeah, thank you. Hi, you want to tell us your name and ask your question?

You're going to make it. We're going to make it. All right. Okay. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I mean, God, God, that's just really nice. I mean, God, that's just really nice.

I mean, well, that seems like a ridiculous thing to answer. That's just a super nice thing to say. I mean, my God, whoever wrote that. that Twitter thing is one of the rare people on Twitter that have something nice to say. Thank you. A lot of people love you. No, that's, you know, I mean, God, I love to do it. And I do think that at its essence, when I am doing it with a greater thing in mind,

like with something, you know, when it's not just about me, when it's about playing opera, when it's about playing something that is bigger than myself, telling a story that's bigger than myself, to liberate me. So if it helps people, I mean, I think that's just wonderful. It would make me feel so good. Thank you. Thank you. How's it going? How are you doing? So you do all these Comic-Conn's now and conventions are really the same thing. We have to lock them up. Yeah, yeah, legit. I think you even did one on a cruise ship.

I don't know. I don't want to once. Yeah, right? So, like, what is the craziest fan of directions we've had so far? Okay. It wasn't at a Comic-Con, but I'll tell you the craziest. And look, here's the thing. Like, I speak a lot about what is very complex to me to talk about,

but what is decidedly sanctin as a mental illness. I don't particularly like to call that. I like to call it neuro-a-sipatality, perhaps. So there is something about people's brain, that work a little differently so and my brain is one of them so I uh I do think that this person that I had the interaction with I think you know I myself when I'm going through something people will laugh at me and I can say that it's okay and I think it's okay that would laugh at this person but this person may have had something

going on with them at the time that wasn't strictly about me I was on an airplane and I have to say that since getting famous airports are really not fun there's certain things that have become a lot more fun like can I have to have a table at your restaurant but but being at an airport is not fun at all and being on an airplane sometimes not that fun and so I was in an airplane and I was a small airplane we were flying from um he was flying from los angeles to atlanta and i sat and i was in i was in first class but i was on the edge on the row here and what i tend to do you want to recognize me on an airplane i'm the guy with the ball cap pulled so far down his face just sitting there like this buried in his phone and there was a

woman that recognized me of something kind of grabbed me on the shoulder like really hard and was like hey hey you know uh oh my god I can't believe you're here. And I was like, yeah, thanks. This is me, too. I took care. And she said, no, it's great, great, yeah. And she went and sat down. And then people fell down, the plane took off.

And then right after the plane took off, she came up again and grabbed my shoulder. I was like, hey, hey, it's me. It's me. And I was like, yeah, great, cool. Good to see you. And she was like, okay, just remember me, remember me. And I was great, cool, yeah, I remember.

Yeah, I remember. Whatever. And she got, like, sat back down. And then she, and then, like, five minutes went by, and then she came up again, and she was like, hey, it's me. And I was like, cool. Great to see again. And she was like, just, you know, remember me, and she handed me a note of something,

went into the bathroom, and then up in the first class bathroom. You're not supposed to do. Whatever. The stewardess came back a couple minutes later and was like, is that woman flying with you? And I said, no, I'm on a television show. and people come about and think they know me. And then she came back and she grabbed me again

and said something, went back to her seat, and then a couple of stories came by, or flight attendants came by and talked me and they said she had destroyed the bathroom, the gunned and really went to get to me. They had to explainer they were going to have to land a plane in Santa Fe or something that was like a bag. where we were afraid that you might open up to emotional people or something like that it was just like yeah I was like thanks stranger things that's like not a fun story but that was the weirdest fan in direction I've ever had crazy we have time for one more I'm gonna try to come to audience pleasant a little later okay but yes yes sir go ahead

Hey, thanks Rick. And I'm going to prove it right now. When are we going to see a Broadway adapt to the B3, an iPad Manhouser from End of Watch and an out of a recently released Master's from Eagle? Hey, look at that, Van Houser Masters League. Oh, my God. Were you on a pain recently, sir, to Santa Fe? He just was on IMDB on his phone. I saw it.

What is this man done to the bathroom here? I've loved you in those roles, and literally, in an interview, who, I just said they weren't as creatively. I clearly didn't understand that, but he, in those roles, a lot. Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you. Oh, that's very sweet, thank you. Oh, really, that's it.

No question, just the sort of thing, just a compliment. No, the question was... When we could see the Broadway adaptation? adaptation of Benhouser in an eyepatch and like playing masters as well. Never, Rick, never. Thank you for wanting it though. You're the only person on planet Earth that does. Let's give it up for Rick and his weird taste.

All right, this is the time of the night where we need to select the biggest stranger things fan in the audience. I don't know how we're going to do that. David, do you have a sense? David, do you have a sense? Do you have a feeling? Raise your hand if you're a huge Stranger Things fan. Yeah, who's a huge Stranger Things fan?

What do you think? David, do you want to take the duty or do you want me to? I like, yeah, I like tattoos on the arm there, right? Tattoos, all right. Yeah. Vanessa, can you help? Is that right, can I just choose one? That's great.

All right, we are going to play a little game of Stranger Things trivia. Ooh, I'm gonna destroy. I'm going to destroy you. Good luck, nerd. There are props. David, here we go. I love me. Okay.

So you are, I seriously do. What's your name? Caitlin. Hi, Caitlin. Have a seat. This is David. Hey, Kevin. Hey, thank you.

Welcome to your doom. No, I'm going to destroy you. Wow, Caitlin, look at this. Oh, my God, I love it. Okay, so we're going to ask each of you a series of questions, you know, the drill, basically, just write down your answer, and we're going to see, who knows stranger, things a little bit better, and there may be a prize involved, we'll see. It's pretty simple, I think, so let's see. What was the name, and no room from the audience, obviously, okay, what was the name of the season three finale? Have some ideas.

Caitlin, you want to go first? Okay, let's see what you got. The Battle of StarCourt, correct. David. Yeah, Battle of StarCourt. Okay, 1-1. I don't know if it's Battle at or Battle of. It is Battle of, right?

Battle of. Wow, yeah. Spell Gaten Matarazzo. Gaten Mataroso. Dayton Mataroso. Dayton. Dayton. Yes.

David is timely hold on he is halfway through the second name okay who should we go with first uh what's right with David this time okay what he got G-A-T-E-N-M-A-R-A-Z-O is incorrect you are missing a Z oh Katelyn that's too many on the M-A-T-A-O-T-R no that is zero Oh, thank God. That was your shot. Thank God, that would have been so shameful. That was the only one. Still one.

Speaking of Dayton, Justin sings a song famous from what movie in the season three finale? David seems like this one. A lot of confidence coming from that couch. Okay, calm. All right, simultaneously, let's see it. Never ending story. Correct for both of you. Two, two.

What was the password to enter Will Byers Castle Buyers? What was the password? Oh, no! Come on, David, channel your inner Joyce buyers. Your Fred is on the line, Mr. Harbor. I have no idea. Do you know it? Radigas, correct!

Well done. Well done. And last one, just for fun, how many words does 11 say in the first season of Stranger Days? You see, who comes closer? How many different words or how many? They don't have to be distinct, I mean, they're distinct words, but if there's a repetition, that's okay. Oh, so that doesn't count of his reference.

It's like, how many words does she know or like, how many words does she actually say? Yes. In the whole season. It's a rough guess. Just a guess to me. Okay, David, what do you got? I see what you did there. It would have been good.

Yeah, it would have been good if it was right. Yeah. It's sadly not right. What do you got? 42. Closer. It's actually 246. Caitlin dominated.

Let me show you what you got, Caitlin. Hold on. Hey. Congratulations. I'm the big loser here. We got an autograph Funco of Hopper here for you. Yay. Enjoy.

Give it up for Caitlin. Thanks, Caitlin. Thanks for stopping by. All right guys, let's keep the party going. We have, as the title of this event was put out there, David Harbor and Friends. Let's bring out a friend. He is disgustingly talented, he's a dream boat, he can sing, maybe he can dance, I don't know, we'll find out tonight, let's give it up for the great Patrick Wilson. Oh, he snuck up on us.

He came from behind. That may, that guitar may play a role later. We will see. Hey, buddy. He's sneaky. He's sneaky that love. Hello, everybody. That's a low couch.

You want to, as the evening goes on. It's getting good. What's up, man. Anywho. Yeah, it's good to see you. This is what we call good podcast content. Mr. Wilson, what are the Wilson family traditions around the holidays? Oh, my Atlanta.

It's been a busy weekend. My wife is here and my parents. Are you guys here? There you are there. In the back. It's busy. It's busy. I have two kids, two boys.

I know the smells of which you spoke. Yeah, right. Teenager. I bet. The whole room, right? The whole room. Yeah, Daggle backed me up on this. We were at their, the middle school play last,

he said, follow me. It's a long story. Jack's like, oh, God, here you go. So last year, I went to go get Cal. Cal is my son, my oldest. He's changing in the dressing room, which was like some classroom at the school musical. And I walked in, and still to this day, it's like sense memory, you know, if you're, like, like I could both tear up and cry. Thinking about the smell, it struck me how bad teenagers can smell.

And I feel like I've been around a lot of bad smells. I've made a lot of bad smells. But this was, it's too much legendary. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, I digress. It's a creature that's growing and becoming another creature. It's going to have some shedding qualities to the air around it. It's molting, really.

Yeah, it's molting. How was the sweaty memo on the set of Aquaman? Is he a, how do he smell? No, he's. he smells great yeah unusually good he looks like he probably smells right does not smells great yeah do you relate okay David was referencing the insane amount of all distance he went through early in his career I feel like when I think of your career I think of like if you I'm at the rest and I remember like it was Angels in America

Alamo hard candy phantom these all happened in like a two-year period like it felt like you just burst out. So where was the hardship? Where was the angst? Yeah, can you please tell us? Well, that was all, by the time that had happened, I was already 30. So even though that's like 16, 70 years ago, yeah. I had done, I had had an entire career really that some would think in theater. So I had, I sort of had made my way, I'd say here in the city, because technically when the city, but nobody in the city actually thinks Brooklyn is the city. So, right? Whoa. Hold on. You got it, though.

My head just exploded. Right. Is Brooklyn really the city? Technically. Wow. Unless you're a New Yorker and then it's not the city. I'm not getting involved. Right?

You guys back me up on that, right? Pat. So, no, I, to be fair, I did not. To be fair, I did not, I did not have a lot of hardship, I, it's true, I'm not, I know, it's a, there's no way to get out of this conversation without sounding like a jackass, so I'm just going to embrace it. That being said, this was the mid-90s and I was musical theater, and there weren't a lot of dudes in musical theater, so we, we, I wasn't in music and theater. Well, that was a problem. Yeah, so I was like... I did audition for a musical with The Boy from Oz.

Sure. With Mr. Hugh Jackman. Oh. Did you get it? No, I was told by my agent that they were really interested with me for the boy from Oz. Like, he has a young lover or something in the movie? Yeah, sure. Jared said to me, they were very interested in me because they teamed me in a play.

And I said to my agent, I don't do you, I don't think. Right? And they were like, they don't care. They really want to see you for this. But here's some cheat music. just in case. And I showed up, and I thought it was just going to meet him. There were 50 dudes in red warmer outside, like warming up.

And they were like, David, you ready? And I was like, uh. And they came in and they started like, dun, dun, dun, dun, da. And I like, I say, hello, Hugh Jackman. I think you're really handsome. And then they were like, thanks. Bye, you're great, thank you. it is I will say those kind of auditions for musicals and it doesn't matter whether it was Broadway or some regional theater they're the most terrifying so so any film audition is nothing compared to doing that standing whether you can't even see them and they're 30 feet away behind a table and you've got to do like a double three away since you're high no like 10 in the morning I mean you can get through that like you know walking into a meeting so what do you do about the character

I mean, that is nothing. Career-wise, who do you think in your travels is the biggest Christmas present from you? Who do you owe the most for you? Well, he's since passed, but Mike Nichols. Yeah, yeah. People from America. Yeah, yeah, 100%. I mean, I just, he just handed me a film career that I still feel like there's still, honestly, not a month goes by.

And he thinks that. Start rehearsal, 2001, so long time. Um, yeah, I'm going to shout back in 2002, so, uh, but still, I swear there's not a, like, a month that they're by that somebody doesn't say, you know, you know, what it was meant to them, what, so that, that, uh, because I, I went out there, I remember having booked that, and I go out there for some auditioning, um, I have a drinking job. Um, and, um, and, um, Dad, leave those to me, sir. It's for the radio player and the podcast. And I walked into an audition in L.A. and I forget what it was for and I said, hi, nice to make it.

And she goes, oh, I thought you're British. And I said, well, why? And she goes, well, because you're 30 and I've never heard of you. That's the business I'm talking about. And then you come super defensive. You're like, well, I have been nominated for you. And they're like, what are Tony's? You're like, out!

I mean, the other significant collaborator that clearly in recent years meant a lot of King Juan. So, you know, we have the third Conjuring film coming out later this year, right? You've sought that, Libera. You and you are about together? We shot that, yep. Shot that to some.

The devil made me do it. The devil made me do it. Sounds funny. They're all comedies. Oh, wacky comedy. Are you surprised by that franchise? I mean, that did not start out. That was an elevated kind of horror.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised by any of the success of the game. No. And I'm surprised by the spin-offs. I think that was something that I don't think they saw coming until kind of late in the game. You know, testing it and people were really responding to some certain, you know, I mean, and it's like, what would be a movie about that? And now it was like Ada. So, I mean, I knew, I remember the conversation very clearly with James

after we had done insidious, and he said, so there's this property that's been one of the most sought-after properties, and it's of these two ghost hunters, the original ghost hunters, Ed Lorraine Warren, and if we can do it right, there'll be a lot of these movies, because he don't, unlike most movies, movies, but you're not going through the struggle you're doing with a family that does. So it's sort of set up for several movies. So it's clearly worth it.

So what's the word on Aquaman 2? You're involved, definitely, yes? We know that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, until a knot. I don't know. Do you know anything? So I saw Mamoa recently, and he had said that he went in and pitched something to the studio

and they apparently were games. Do you know anything about his pitch for Ociman? He's. Well, he has about a hundred of them. He's like, dude, what if I, like, dude, you know. I'm like, swing in. I'm like, you know. Right?

Sounds great. I can't wait to see it. Are there fish in it? There are fish. They talk. Oh, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. But here's a thing.

He is so creative that I'm sure, out of the 99, you know, 100 ideas, all you need is one. So, and he does, he does that's a great idea. David loves your character. He was really faculty with a form. Orm, yeah. Do we not feel that that's missing a vowel somewhere? To which I responded, this is your arm. Do you need another vowel at arm?

Yeah, it's not my David. It's a piece of a body. My. That is your, what is your David? Get off my arm. Do you have a name for your David? Yeah, little David. Little?

Average-sized, David. Oh, my. And this is the part where we're supposed to talk about the charities, and you went there, right now. Sure. Just for the kids. Unbelievable. We're doing this one for the kids.

Patrick, can you do me a favor and tell us a little bit about the Natural Resources Defense Council if I give you this as a little warm, a little warm action? I'll do dolphin noises in the background there might be a helpful problem yeah I I don't I'm not I don't feel very warm really do I have it let me see there's something we can we help maybe we clap our hands from always oh I like it I like it this is actually my man can I buy a vowel I'd like to buy an E.

So here's some information about the Natural Resources Defense Council, which we're benefiting tonight. You don't have to do all of it, but do as much as you like and let people know. Where do I say? As much as you want to say about these are bullet points about the NRDC and just to educate people a little bit about the good work that they do. Okay. It needs to be all. No, it doesn't need to be all. No, I'm happy.

Listen, I'm here for charity. And by the way, I'll just be all. All jokes aside, I'm glad you guys are, too. Because holidays is about giving. That was one thing my parents saw me. Yeah, seriously, thank you guys for coming out. How's it fit? It's amazing.

I love it. I mean, I'm going to talk with some shit. What's up, shark? You just really want to talk to sharks, right? What other fish is there to talk to? There's sharks aren't fish. Yes, they are. A lot of tension.

Don't look at me like that. Don't. creeping me out, buddy. It's a little bit comedia del Arta. Yeah. Hi, welcome. All right, take it away, Orm, when you're ready. The key to Orm is no contractions, so I have to look into, if you never say don't, do you think we want.

So I just have to scan this, so there are no contractions. My preparation for Orm is very simple. take out all contractions. Got it. What I do? What do you do, Black Widow? Uh. I feel like you need the rest of the costume to sell it.

I think the amount of cell phones that went up when you put on the ORM map. This is good? I can barely read. Please don't look at my giant forehead. It's usually covered by a helmet. Proceeds from tonight's festivities are going to benefit NRDC, the Natural Resource Defense Council, which is one of the most, hold on, world's most effective environmental groups for 50 years, they have been suing polluters, cleaning up our air and water and protecting endangered species and places. The NRDC was the environmental group that went into Flint during the water crisis.

The NRDC took government officials. Yeah. But, Orm, you're, like, making this sound, like, not good. Like, they're doing awesome stuff, and, like, Orm is, like, kind of unhappy about it. Like, they're literally saving your habitat, Orm. Show some goddamn respect. Fair enough. Fair enough, David.

I understand why Aquaman got a little maddy in the first movie. Okay. Today they are taking on the Trump administration. Can I be mad at Trump at least? Can I like Trump? Yes, of course. Yes, please. Yes, yes, yes.

Today they're taking on the swamp administration. There you go. Relentless attacks on our air, water, and climate. They see the administration over 100 times. And they're winning big time. Ninety-three percent of their cases so far. NRDCs

That does deserve a point. NRDC's number one priority is combating climate change and creating energy energy. To do this, they need your help. Every one of us needs to rise up and demand climate solutions to work. Every voice counts in 2020 is the year we need to make it. We show your support. climate to act one act on climate no support text by Ketka.

Orm needs his reading glasses. That salt water is all getting up in it. The joint NIDC's 3 million supporters in the fight for a cleaner driver. Yes. Thank you, Arm. Where did I go? I don't know what happened.

Perfection. All right, let's keep the party going. We have another amazing guest, another friend to welcome. He's a great actor. He's a friend to all of us. He's a great podcaster now. Check out his podcast. Life is short.

Give it up for Justin Long. Thank you. You all get nice and cozy now. Get in there. You saved the hunkiest for last, I see. Hello, Orm. Sorry. Hello.

What's your favorite character? Your favorite character name you've ever played? Your favorite character name. Have you ever played an Orm? I played characters usually pretty boring names like DePaul and Dave. Like pretty, yeah. Tots, yeah, Walet, yeah. Alvin, yeah.

Right, right. Kind of standard. No Orm. But I remember these guys from the boy from Oz audition. Which I thought was called the boy from Aouns because I read it to literally. Those are the jokes of her workshoping backstage. It played pretty good. It was better than you thought, Sammy.

I haven't seen you since you've become an amazing podcast, and I'm slightly annoyed at how good you are at podcasts. If people have to check it out, check it out. Life is sort of excellent. Thank you. That's, uh, well, thanks for inviting me and Patrick on, too. Don't be careful when you wish for. I'm going to bug you in your DMs.

Yeah, it'd be great. Has it been surprising and fun? Has it been so fun? I do with my brother, Christine, the funny shift I know, and, um, we're just talking about with your brothers, Patrick, have some of you, brother? I don't have a sister, yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah, well.

Apology. Yeah. Why don't? I think you're Yeah. It's been fine. How old? What's the age?

Forty-two years. It's a half-brother. He's six months old. He's a great sidekick. He laughs at everything I say. He's a great setup guy, you know. Good listener. But we can't do it live because he's shitting himself all the time.

And the guests get a little disturbed. No, he's, it's three years younger, and then my older brother is two years. But that's a tough thing to follow when you say, like, oh, you're great at podcasting on a podcast. It's like saying to a comedian when you meet them. Oh, he's so funny. Be funny. Tell me a joke. Say something interesting on a podcast.

Podcast, podcast. Well, let's talk about your illustrious career. Ah, finally. Does it come in waves what people recognize you for? What people... Where does that you from? Enough about me. Let's talk about my career.

I think any actors could say that, probably. So what... Does it come in waves in terms of what people recognize you and talk to you about on the street? Does it feel like it's consistently a... I can you do the pie chart of what people acknowledge you for. I usually have a sense when somebody's approaching roughly what they're going to... Do you have to have what they're going to say?

Like, um... I can usually tell by the demographic. But sometimes it surprises me. Sometimes it's like a fun, it throws me, and I'm trying to think of some of the funier ones, but there was one once that I've told before, and maybe I'm being arrogant. You think when people have heard me before.

Oh, wow, we're really spiraling. It'll be new to me. Go ahead. Way to set up a story. Damned if you do, damned if you do. But somebody, for a while, this movie called, he's just not been into, hold for applause, hope for applause, but, but, and there was usually a paid-for-person that would approach

me about that, and often they would ask, some of them would ask, like, for my character in the movie good relationship advice and stuff, and I'm good at giving, but not stopping, and so oftentimes people would ask about that, and it was usually a certain type of person, and, and one day I was passing by a bar in New York and this huge bouncer Samoan guy, I think, you know, like Mamoa. Yeah, it wasn't Mamoa, but it was a Mamoa adjacent. Mamo-ish, it was Mamoish. But he goes, yo, yo, yo, you, I know you, I know you, man,

you played in, what's that movie, what's that movie you played? And I almost answered the question for him. I was like, oh, for creepers or a thing that I was I thought maybe he was going to say. And he goes, he ain't feeling you no more. Yeah. And it threw me. I was like, what?

And I said, oh, he, oh, you mean he's just not going to do you. He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't feeling you no more. Like he corrected me. Yeah, yeah. Better title, by the way. It also strikes me. So you think, like in this age of the reboot, sequel, prequel, everything,

you've been in two of these, like, great cult comedies that are, like, the only ones that have. haven't had a continuation, namely Galaxy Quest. Hope for applause. Dodgeball. Hold for applause. Gottsy Quest has come close though, right? Like there's there, they were gonna do it on Amazon right before Alan died and

Alan was gonna do it, Alan. Everyone was all set to do it in. Rockwell, everybody was on board, and Alan was, I think, going to miss the first episode. I don't think he was, so that was going to happen, and I think now they're talking about it, but they had script, and they had it all ready to go, and Alan. He would laugh at that, by the way. He would laugh at that. I miss him.

I loved him. he by the way at the Galaxy Quest rap party went crazier than anyone and he was like a maniac on the dance floor no not kidding really he was so fucking fun all that he was the funniest person and he was so confidently funny that he would say something like very dry and you know he would sort of dressy down and say something that sounded maybe nasty but he meant it and came from kind of like don Rickles would be, you know, came from a really, like, warm place, but he would never say, which I don't think I'll ever in my life have the confidence to do, he would never say, I'm just, I'm just cute, you know? He would just let it sit there. And, and, and, and if you

took it, if you were insulted by it, it would be like, you know, that says something about you, but he was so, calm, I wish I could think of an example now, but he was just a, he was just a, he was such a funny guy, warm, would have loved the NRDC thing, too, just a really beautiful But, yeah, but, unfortunately, we're going to do it. But I think it's happening again, Galaxy Cliff. I think somebody's going to do it. Your culture was working on something. We'll see what happens.

Yeah. Always. Yeah. So, you also met your buddy, Sam Rockwell, on that one. We all love Sam around here. Yeah. You do one of my, not to make you, like, dance for us, but you do one of the best Sam Rockwell infections I've ever, I've ever.

I couldn't possibly. What's the key to a Sam Rockwell? It's the, you've got to get a face. Often those with expressions, you find that, like, I need a word. Like, you know, while he's gone, it's inconceivable, obviously. But Sam's is awesome, the word awesome. And it looks like you're listening. When Sam looks at you, he's kind of studying your face.

and not necessarily listening to what you're saying. He's listening to how, he's watching how you're saying it. You know, he's like, oh, that's awesome. It's fucking awesome. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, there's a, you know, I did Josh's show. I've done it before.

He's a great guy. It's a good guy. Yeah. That's tremendous. Also tremendous. I'm so glad Sam is famous now for so many reasons, but selfishly because that impression now is I can do it now publicly. I used to be like, I have a really good Sam Rockwell impression.

Be like, you know, I'd be like, oh, yeah. We have a friend named Lee Filden who played, he did a lot of characters from movies before. There was, you know, like he was in the original thing as he had. Wait, who would be in there? Yeah, well, he would wear, yeah, he played Donatello. He played Donatello? Yeah, he was in the suit.

He's in the suit, he's in the suit. And Leif has a little, he's really good after, a really powerful little guy, and he has kind of a higher voice, and he always says, Tremendous. Oh, my God, that's tremendous. And so Sam just took that from him, so Sam says Tremendous a lot, which is why I think I say it, tremendous. Oh, my God, that's tremendous. but leave yeah Justin would you mind spreading the good word of community works or

other benefactors tonight as either Sam Rockwell Christopher Walken anybody in your lexicon anybody you want to try can you do Sam Rockwell's Sam Rockwell doing Chris Walker that's so funny David that's so funny you say that thanks Judge that's the only way I can do Christopher Walken is Sam's bastardized version of it, which is, it's gotten better because they've worked together since, uh, can we, can we dig it from yours back to a worse version? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Well, yeah. Sure. It was like this. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what. It's crazy. Crazy is his word.

It's crazy. The whole thing. I'll tell you, tonight you should know. It's a nice crowd, first of all. A lot of beautiful. beautiful smiling faces, you know. Stage left and stage right. Proceeds from tonight's festivities are going to benefit

community works, NYC, a New York-based cultural and educational program to help use the arts to bridge neighborhood differences. Now it feels like I'm short-changing how important this is. I know. Plan it straight. We got our left. Let me try my arm.

My arm. Get the mask. Get the mask. I'm going to do, I'll try this. Okay. So for over 30 years, I've been pairing students, particularly in Harlem with artists working in and from around the area as well as local heroes to tell the story of an idea. That's one, that's no good anymore. Tell the story of an iconic neighborhood that has been the nation's capital for black culture for 100 years.

Is that me? That's Vince. No. I can't do this as an impression. This is such good stuff. Community Works is opening a permanent... I don't know my own. Community work.

That's me. There I am. Community work. It is opening a community works. It's very important thing. It's opening a permanent, expanded multimedia experience this spring for award winning. Why is everyone still laughing?

This is important. Yeah. Diverse Harlem is music, theater, dance exhibit to the Harlem Hospital Center in Harlem. The exhibit and website reflects work that has been seen for over 20 years by 3 million visitors. I almost didn't read the million parts. listed for over 20 years by three visitors.

That would be. That would be one every six and a half years. We open our doors. Somebody's here. For an hour, we will allow one of you in. Community Works is also planning permanent homes for exhibits from its Latin roots, East Harlem installation. With partners, Community Works has created performance

workshops and community programs for free or at this kind of crisis brought artists in the classroom offer tours and curriculum materials about storytelling and local heroes in the classroom this group deserves your support and to be read slowly and seriously so support them and by emailing info at community works nyc.org very good amazing the man of a thousand voices just in long thanks buddy By the way, that was me saying that as God. That was me.

Oh, people at home. I'm just saying for the podcast listeners. You just said that. This is why you're a consummate podcast. Thinking of the audience at home. Let's talk about the controversial subject of Cats, Song and Dance Man. Patrick.

Patrick Wilson. Cats? You said Cats? The movie. Where do you stand on Cats as a musical theater? It's not it. Have you seen it? So, the movie, I have not seen the movie.

You have to admit if you have. I will absolutely see the movie. Okay. I've seen the show so many times. Really? Okay. Yeah. First Broadway show I ever saw.

Is cats? Yeah, I lived in a group of White Plains. Ah. Yeah, give it up for White Plains. School trip, I think. Ten years old? Oh, sorry. See it for 10-year-olds.

Wait, have you ever done, Katz? Did you ever do it? No. I auditioned and did not get it. Really? Do they make you do the kitty litter or scratching, you think? Not so much kitty litter. They do.

The famous audition for Katz was you go down the line and do a double pirouette. Either side. But that was the deal. So you had to do your tune and then literally do a double pirouette. I mean, aside from Jellico Ball. I used to know it, which would be cool to do, but I don't anymore. The good news is Patrick is going to perform all cats for you right now. There's a man over there.

I do weirdly know so much of that show, and it's so weird that I do. But I do know a lot of it. Petra, you audition for the movie? No, no, no. No. Just the point. Yeah. Why aren't you in this movie?

I don't know. Probably for the best. Yeah. Why don't we celebrate the holidays in the singing spirit with a great talent like Patrick Wilson? We've got a beautiful guitar and microphone. I'll be singing cats. You can sing whatever you like. Oh, I would love that.

Let's give it up for Patrick Wilson. Yeah, yeah, we can talk about yourself. Justin, what are your musical talents? What would you rate them? I'm a great guitar player and singer. I sing, I do Elvis and all sorts of things. Really? No, I'm kidding.

I just thought I'd step on. Elvis and all sorts of things. That's what should have given you a clue that he was lying. You know, I do the Elvis and all sorts of things. Well, I'm a castrada, so I sing soprano opera. You didn't know that. that. We haven't talked, oh, it makes a lot of sense in retrospect. Yeah, yeah. My mother made a play of the violin in 2010, but not interesting. Yeah. I don't know. Will you guys see cats

out of curiosity? I've never seen cats. I can't wait. I can't wait. Are you really going to see it? Are you going to see it? Yeah, I'm going to eat 10 milligrams of weed and I'm going to see, I am. I'm going to eat an edible and I cannot wait. Here's my question is why does it surprise like what's the surprise like everybody's looking at the cats like they look like people like where have you been since 1982 they look the same as they have I mean well I think because how how much they look like people people are a little freaked out by at least on the stage play you know you can separate the you know yeah yeah yeah the question is not so much like how the performance is just should it have been done exactly yeah right yeah i won't bash anything with if that taylor twist is involved in i i love she truly she's a treasure to me but um but i think but i think it was treasure is i can't wait for the butt in this sense no no come on i'm not kidding what is it what's the word i'm not kidding nor have i haven't seen it so i can't do it uh

i can't say anything about that i can't comment but if i had seen it and i and i hated it i certainly wouldn't tell you right now expect the next time we do one of these podcasts that you'll have a Taylor Swift as cat in fresh trouble I go I'll try yeah as a cat as a cat very niche talking Patrick save us what I would love to do if you think we can take it down just a little bit so for me my whole Christmas is really about spending with my family my mother who's back there was a choir director for a long time and I grew up singing in church choir so for me when I think of Christmas for me it's all hymns. So I wanted to sing my favorite hymn. And you're welcome to sing along or just take a moment

and think about people that you dig. We can pull this off. They're keeping as they lay In peace with heaven They keeping their sheep On a cold winter's night That was so deep Noelle Noelle

Well, Noel born is the key of eternal. They look it up and saw a star shining in east, beyond them fall. the earth It gave great life And so it can't Both day and night Noelle Noel, Noel,

Born is the king Who knew? Who knew that Orm had that in him? I know. I feel like the Grinch that discovered the heart inside of him. I feel something. I don't know about you guys. guys that was happy sad and confused I thought I tried to sneak a little little heart in there

all happy that was my Patrick Wilson impression everyone at home you know something is really good and engaging when people put bones down I know it's like should be the opposite but I've noticed the thing I saw jake's concert yesterday night and people he was so beautiful I People wanted to be present for it. And you can't see this at home, but people, starting to make it weird about technology. It's totally true though. That is the issue that we certainly go through with kids,

back at the same teenagers, is just be present, right? Just be present, be here. Doesn't always need to be. We're here. And I was actually explaining this the other day When we went to see a show, and I told my kids, we were in the audience, and they're great audience members. That being said, there's still kids. And I said, you know, like when you're moving or drinking water or something, you know the actors in stage, you can see that.

Like, this is not theater. Like, this is theater. Like, the audience is important. Otherwise, it's useless. So it's the thing together that makes the show. Yeah? Keeping in the holiday stirrup, what's top of the list of holiday movies? What is those two holiday movies?

Guy hard. You took it from me, God. It's one of those. Yeah. No, I have a machine gun. Pull, pull, pull. To quote the legendary Alan Rickman. Yeah.

He's best villain. He dates, you know, he did, you know, Rockwell called him about. A book called him about plenty of you playing a woman from Charlie Gaines and he was done a hard time making a transition. He said, he gave me such great advice, but I was a very cool story. He said, do as little as possible as you do something really terrible because it makes whatever you did that much more menacing. It means it's casual to you. And Sam said, what do you mean? And he said, Alan said, well, for example,

So, for example, I think he said after I shot someone out a sandwich. And he's like, really fucking cool advice. The banality of evil right there, right? Shot someone in ate a sandwich. Really. Uh, what, anybody else? I go to Screw. I look Screwed myself.

Oh, it's a great movie. Oh, my gosh. I mean, I am a huge guy who is a guy. But if I were to pick something different for the sake of this argument slash conversation, I would... It's an argument. I didn't mean argument. Started everything off on the wrong foot. I'd be like, David Harbour and then were friends.

Did you have a dog? David Harbour and friends anymore. Die hard. My diehard, pal. Made fun of my arm mask. Elf. I know. Elf.

Oh, great one. Perfect movie. Any competition? I love how to do you. I love cartoons. I love Mickey's Disney show. And it's just things that remind me in my childhood. Yeah, the Grinch.

I watch them all. Rudolph. Yeah. Heardney, who wanted to be a dentist. I love that whole. You know who makes great holiday movies is the homeowner channel? The best. Oh, yeah.

The best. Yes. I've seen one. I've seen one today. I have a question for you. Is the Dove channel and the Hallmark channel is changing? There's Hallmark Now. There's a Hallmark movie-specific channel.

I know this. Yeah, that's the one. I think I've subscribed to that. No. No. I don't know the Dove channel. I think the Dove Channel. I was asked to join something on my smart television,

and it plays movies that be Hallmark movies, like one of which was a shock jock from L.A. A big shot, shock, big shot shock, big shot shock, you got any of that. You got it. Big shot shock. Too big for his britches kind of gets taken down and has to go to a real religious town and Utah and learn about what it really means. Is there a Christmas cookie baking competition?

Because I imagine there is. There's always a cookie. There's always a bake-off and they always have to save an old institution that's closing up for some corporate thing moving in. Yes, yes. It's the best. All of these exist in this movie. Where were you going with this, Doug?

I'm going to name a film. I'm going to give you a title. You tell me if this is an actual hallmark movie or something I made up. Okay. Challenge accepted, Judge. I'm going to lose. The sons of mistletoe.

The sons of missiles. I'm going to say no. No. Definitely what. Sons. Is it spelled a different name? S-O-N-S. I or home.

The sun is a real movie. It's about a foster home for boys in danger being closed when it's benefactor dies. Sounds like ripe opportunity for a bakeoff. How are we going to save this place? Anybody got some cookie dough? They'll bake cookies but they'll also maybe have some sort of dance competition or like a singing competition. And two old people... You boys get out there.

And there'll be a man and a woman involved who have no real obstacle in terms of them getting together. There's no obstacle, but they knew each other from back in the day. And they happen to both be single and attractive, and for whatever reason, they're not getting together until they do this thing to save the thing. That's the plot. No obstacle ever. No stakes. It's the best.

They were the best. Rudolph Returns Reckoning of the Reindeer. Real or fake? No, fake. No way. Fakes. Sensing a pattern, so I'm going to say yes. That is a fake.

Yeah. A pattern after one. And you were right to groan and judge me. I heard that. That was inappropriate heckle. That was inappropriate. She goes, you're right. After one?

I'm going to sense a pattern. After one. A good heckles, ma'am. The 13th day of Christmas. The 13th day of Christmas? Oh, yeah, that's got to be a good one. Yeah, that's a good, yeah, that's one. I'm going to say no.

You are correct. He's back on track, yeah. That is not a real movie. Damn. I sense the new pattern. You're going to go correct, incorrect, incorrect, and correct. Single Santa Seeks Mrs. Clause, real or fake? That's real.

Fake. I think it's fake, but they're ones that are so similar to them. I think it's real. It is real. Yeah. It's starred the great Steve Gutenberg. You should check it out. The Goot!

The Goots! Love Steve Gutenberg. Angels and Ornaments. I'm sticking with my fake fake I'll say real it's real random it's real what do they have to do with each other angels and ornament it's three suitors pursuing a hopeless romantic after she makes a wish to find two laws before Christmas check it out hence ornament therefore we'll call it ornament or ornament no I need a vowel just a setup did you just set him up Q mask I'd love to see Orm in one of those movies.

Like he wants to make it happen with his childhood sweetheart. Like the Wolfie Christmas special. Jerry Clause, attorney for hire. Real estate. Oh, God, I want that to be really. I would love to play Jerry. I would like to just read. I know you have someone else in mind.

I just want you to let me read. I'd love to play the hapless romantic who knows. needs Jerry Claus' help in whatever legal situation. Wait, it's Jerry Claus' attorney for hire? Is that what it? Attorney for hire, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to say yes.

Yeah, I love it. I want it to be real. Yes. That's your Christmas wish, David? Yes. It's not real. I made it off. Wait, wait, David.

Santa Claus doesn't exist. You've got a lot of juice now. You can make that happen. We are going to write that. Yeah. I swear to God, I would do that movie. I want to be the attorney and you be the hopeless romantic

I'm not going to be a bad guy? You're warm, you're just warm You show up in the third act Like as a Deus ex Machina Who dissents and like Solved the problem with a bunch of fish Who is the Santa Claus? Oh, you think a bake-off

Is going to save your precious little library Oh my God It's a fantastic cartoon villain gargamel than orm. The good news is Derry Clause is coming soon. The bad news is that we're coming to an end on our exciting evening. A couple, a couple things to say. I want to give one last reminder about two great causes tonight. Community Works, you should email them for any info if you want to contribute to info at CommunityWorks NYC.org. And again, for NRDC, you should show your support by texting climate to act on climates. I have a lot of thank you to give out just really quickly. I want to thank Sammy, Brian Zachs, Repop, Bell House, Vanessa Gombiuski, Alyssa Godwin, my guest, Justin Wong,

Thank you, Judge. Patrick Wilson, David Harbour. I want to thank all of you for, honestly, this has been such a treat. I don't know why I waited five years to do one of these live. We're going to do another one soon. Before we all go, Patrick, what do you think? One more song? What do you think?

I mean, we're here anyway. Oh, we got props, yeah. My Jew card is burning right now, but I'm going to wear it. Podcast props. We are wearing Santa hats for the record for podcasts listening. My head is gigantic. This is a big thing. This is an all saying.

than the standard. Everybody knows. Our famous friend, Bruce. Do you ever Bruce Springsteen? Bruce Valanche? Hey, Clay, great. Would you want to start as Bruce Blanche? That'd be great.

People would love that. Why don't I read the NRDC thing as Bruce Valange? No. Let me tell. There we go. Everybody needs this thing, though. You better watch out. You better watch out.

cry you better not proud i'm telling you why santa claus is coming to town santa claus is coming to town come on god santa claus is coming to town i really need some drums he's making a list he's checking it twice gonna find out who's naughty and nice Santa Claus is coming to town, Santa Claus is coming to town. There we go. He sees you when you're sleeping. Creaky. He knows if you're awake.

He knows if you've been bad or good, so you better be good for goodness sake. Oh, you better be good for goodness. Oh, you better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pat, I'm telling you why. Santa Claus is coming to town. Santa Claus is coming to town. Santa Claus is coming to town. Have a great Hanukkah and happy, happy Christmas.

Thanks, everybody. Have a great night. Happy holidays. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley and I definitely wasn't pressured to do this by Josh.

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