Happy Sad Confused - Diane Kruger

Episode Date: July 27, 2014

Diane Kruger, star of “The Bridge,” stops by Josh’s office to revel in Germany’s World Cup victory and talk about her career, from “Troy” to “Inglorious Bastards”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Because when you're doing big things, your tools should to. Visit square.ca to get started. Hey guys, welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. I'm Josh Horowitz. This is my very own podcast. Thanks for subscribing if you have, and if you haven't, I am silently or not so silently judging you. Please subscribe. This podcast is a labor of love, and hopefully you guys are digging it. Last week's guest, got a lot of great feedback. Mr. Woody Allen, if you haven't checked that one out, I encourage you to do so. And this week's guest is no slouch either. She is a very talented. actress I'm a huge fan of, and I really enjoyed chatting with her. Diane, you probably know best from Inglorious Bastards, where she was so amazing in holding her own against some of the greatest actors like Michael Fastbender and Christoph Waltz. She's, of course, also starring in the FX show The Bridge, now in its second season. She is, I should say, for context, we taped this a couple weeks back, right after the World Cup.

Diane Kruger, as you may have guessed, is a German by birth. She was feeling a lot of pride. It was just the day before that she enjoyed watching her country emerge victorious in the World Cup. So that's what you'll hear at the outset of this conversation. Her flying high off the World Cup and me trying to understand why it even matters. But I really enjoyed catching up with Diane. She's a very talented actor and also. has a good kind of dry wit, which once you key in on, is just fun to mix it up with.

As always, guys, hit me up on Twitter, Joshua Horowitz, tag it with Happy Set Confused, and yeah, just let me know what you're enjoying, who you want to hear, and spread the good word. Without any further ado, let's get right to it. Ms. Diane Kruger. Enjoy. The host, yeah. We did one of those live thing in the jiggies. And I also saw you in Sundance.

Ah, that's right, that's right, yeah, yeah. Congratulations, first of all, as we tape this, this is a big day. It is a big day. How are you feeling? I'm feeling on top of the world. And feel free, by the way, if you want to adjust the mic, maybe a little bit closer to you, that'd be great.

So was that, okay, so where did you experience the World Cup? I was in New York, you know, a friend's house. Okay. And I was the only real German there, and I was... What was your blood alcohol content by the time? No, I couldn't drink. I couldn't even sit down. I was standing the entire time. I was exhausted because it was such a long game.

Yeah. It was amazing. And then, you know, I had friends who are Argentinian, and we were just talking, you know, shit all day. I was not a kind person yesterday until we won. I feel like America's catching up. We're catching up a little bit, but I feel like you still... A lot. Do you think, because I was going to say, I feel like, I don't know, from a European perspective,

I don't know if you can convey the importance of what that is to Americans quite yet. I mean, we're kind of like on board with like the celebrating part and kind of like New York definitely came alive yesterday. I mean, I guess for you, it's football, right, American football and I don't know. I mean, soccer, you know, it's something that I grew up with. Everybody in Europe, I mean, you have no choice but be a soccer fan or not, but, you know, it's in your life, whether you like it or not. I don't follow like regional football But the Euro Cup I actually flew to Kiev a couple years ago

To watch the finals of the Euro Cup Thinking it's going to be Germany, Spain And then Italy just Didn't pan out? It did not pan out But it was still a fun It was a fun time But I do feel like the Americans are catching up

You know, you have a German coach And honestly I think In four years I think you have a real shot Because those kids are like Don't condesent to me Don't patronize me I'm sorry I have to

You little guys, you're coming along No, it's cute No, but you know They're like 19 and 20 years old The guys that he found So by four years we might be hitting the prime And not necessarily the prime But I really think that the team has made huge strides

If I may say so So where is your allegiance Versus, we'll call it soccer football Whatever you like versus hockey Because it's a big year also for hockey I'm a huge Kings fan That's what I hear I went to game three

of the final you know the final seven and um no i love i love anything i mean i go to anything yeah except for baseball i'm not a big baseball that's kind of my sport that's your sport that's my sport what do you do what do you mean like nothing you're not soccer or what football i'm sorry where there's like one or two goals maybe sometimes a game but people actually there's action on the field like i feel like baseball nothing ever happened what do you think about what do you think about what's what's going on through their minds when i'm going to have another nacho yeah well that's that's I feel like people just go to eat bad food.

Why do you have judgment in your voice when you say that? I'm not judging. It's an observation. When you're at a hockey game with Josh, does anybody ever try to pick a fight with a Mighty Duck? Does it ever be weird? Well, we fight sometimes because he's a Canucks fan. Okay.

And I'm a Kings fan. So, you know, his team is the eternal losing team. So I feel like he's picking bad teams. I don't know. I feel, I mean, yeah. And then so he actually went to the, winning game. I couldn't go because it was working, but, you know, I tried to convince him to come to the winner's side. Join me. Join me on the good side. It's so much more fun over here.

It is. We dance, we drink, we smile. You win cups. It's awesome. You used to be a New Yorker, right? We're taping this here in my office in New York. Do you miss New York? I do a lot, yeah. We were thinking about renting a place. We were going to be here over the summer because Josh is actually working on a show called The Affair that shoots in New York. Oh, nice. Amazing. So what, from what I gather, okay, so you split your time a bit. Paris, you consider home.

Home, yeah. But obviously, L.A. L.A. no, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So pluses or minuses? Were you one of those people that was kind of like avoiding L.A. for a long while? I mean, have you acclimated a bit? Yeah, you do get used to the space, you know, most, and the weather, obviously.

But I feel like as much as I miss Europe, because I just feel like, you know, especially Paris, it's so beautiful and culturally. It's, I mean, there's so much diversity. Right. And the same with New York, you know. Right. You can be anonymous and anything you want to be or anyone you want to be. In L.A., you know, you've got to get used to it as a very isolating town if you don't know people.

Right. But when you do, you know, it's like, I love my home. Like, I have a vegetable garden. I mean, these are perks that you can't get in New York most of the time. Exactly. what about the industry aspect of it I've been lucky enough I grew up here in New York and I've been lucky enough to stay here for the 600 years I've been living but like I do feel like I mean I like to visit LA but like the industry is a little

overwhelming is it a little bit much sometimes to kind of like because you want some space from that sometimes but here's the thing your life is what you want your life to be right so my friends they are not necessarily in the in the industry you don't like pour over you don't talk hey did you see variety this morning no that sounds like 10 years old. No one looks at variety anymore. I know. That's how I feel. At least I hope. Remember, there's a bad review in it. I'm like, I hope nobody reads it anymore. Right, right. Um, no, I, you know what I mean? Like, so I just, the New York can be just as grinding if, you know, if you want it to do. Depends on the kind of life you carve out, I guess.

Um, so let's, let's talk a little bit about, about the bridge, which can, congratulations as we tape this. Um, we're getting knee deep into season two. Yeah. It's got to be exciting for you that, uh, you know, you never know when you, um, launch a new series. It's tough to get it off the ground and get the kind of acclaim you guys have gotten. Were you dragged into TV?

Were you open arms into TV? What was kind of your attitude about taking on a TV series? I was excited about doing a cable show. I'm not sure I'm cut out for nine months of slave work on a network show, honestly. Like, Josh has been on many TV shows

and that schedule is just not something I think I could sustain. But I think it's a really exciting time, you know, everybody's talking about it, how, especially for women, the worlds in television are just so much better. And this was a really cool group of people, I feel like, and it's been creatively so satisfying, you know, I'm part of so much more of the process than in a movie. Right. I'm involved in many more aspects of it, and I love it. We did just, I just had, like, Carrie Russell was in here last week. And yeah, you do hear, I mean, she's the same kind of thing.

I mean, like, and, you know, you see talented actresses like Hallie Barry going to TV where, like, again, 10 years ago, it would have been insane to think people like you or Hallie would, like, do a television show. I mean, that's great, and it's also kind of a bummer, too, about where we're at in film where there are so few and far between roles for... Yes and no, you know, I try not, I think I'm not one of those people that looks back and thinks, oh, things were better, you know, back then. Right. Because the movies are what they are. They're big spectacles. And, you know, I love to go see Spider-Man in 3D. But at the same time, when I want to watch a movie even that I want to think about

and that is challenging, I'd rather watch it at home. You know, and that's clearly what most people feel like. And also, you know, I'm not 18 or 25, whatever their age group is that they're gearing towards those movies. You know, and I have a life. I don't want to, you know, if I come home from work, the last thing I want to do is, like, get out and go to the movies again. Totally. So coming, I'm curious, because, like, you know,

looking at the kind of the arc of a career and, like, the, you know, the upticks, at least in terms of, like, recognition. Obviously, you look at something like Troy, which was, like, a huge thing, and In Glorious Bastards, which was an amazing, both box office and critical success. Was it, I mean, did you feel like out of each of those opportunities, better opportunities came, or was it kind of an eye-opener that like, oh, I still have to fight, I still have to, like, try and find the cool stuff.

I thought it would be an easier road after this, but it never gets easier, or maybe the only does get a little bit easier. You know, it's never an easy road because no career is like the next. Right. And the roles that you hope for yourself are sometimes just clearly not within your reach or directors that you want to work with don't necessarily. necessarily have the desire to work with you. Right.

So there's always this battle of trying to create those opportunities for yourself, and then try and pick and choose carefully, you know, and that's really the hardest part of it all. Because when you're in it, obviously you don't have the objectivity that you need to, like, say, oh, this is a bad move. And I try to make decisions based with my heart, but that's not always possible, you know. I don't know. Has it changed then? Has like the algorithm changed?

is it still kind of instinctual and judging from the heart, or are you more calculating about the kind of stuff that you take? No, it still is. But now, you know, maybe also because of the bridge and that's filming for four and a half months, I don't feel like I have to find the next gig quite as fast as I used to. Also, you know, I make French films,

and that's always been great for me, and the next thing I'm going to do is a French movie. So I've always felt like, I've been a working actress no matter what. Right. But as I grow older, I have more experience to bring into, or to my roles, you know, and that's always, especially for women, you know, as older you get, the roles are less, less of them in general, you know. But yet as an actor or an actress, you're much more capable.

Right. And that's the eternal battle. You mentioned, you know, going back to French films, you obviously speak English better than me, which isn't hard, French, German, presumably. Yep. So did you grow up learning all three? No, I grew up learning German, obviously, and English from the time I was like eight. Okay. Yeah.

And then French, I never studied French in school. I learned Latin, which I guess helps you with languages. Right. And then so French. Do you often speak Latin around the house? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I recite my Iliate, like, once a week.

Well, you've got to keep it fresh. You've got to keep it fresh. Yeah, no, that was a mistake. But eight years of Latin, total waste of my time. Wait, like 30 seconds ago, you said it's a good building block. That's what people say. I'm still trying to figure out if that was true. You're still rationalizing that horrible mistake.

Pretty much. I wish I'd studied French because I don't write it very well. Okay. I sort of taught myself how to read. I went to drama school in France. Okay. But, you know, and I speak it. Like, I could fool you, people, even in France, think that I'm French.

That's impressive. But, you know, as soon as I have to write a text, they're like, are you five? Do you have a problem that we should know about? Clearly, yeah, exactly. Do you dream in French, German, English, pig Latin, Latin? In Latin, only in Latin. You were a very unique person. Yes, there you go.

That'd be amazing. But do you? I mean, what's, wait, what's the default? like when you... I think mostly English because that's what I speak mostly now. But when I'm in France, I mean, I happen to

dream in French sometimes. Why is it... I mean, this sounds like an obnoxious American question, but why is it important to return to French films for you? Is it based on what, you know, making your life in Paris or is it just the kind of filmmakers that are working in French films or what?

Well, it's a little bit of all of that. I think I'm European and so I feel very connected to the stories that, you know, the cinema is so different in Europe as it is than it's here. And I love both sides, you know. But French film to me is why I wanted to become an actress. And I just love French filmmakers. They're eccentric and crazy. But, and a lot of the times they write their own scripts, you know, which is also really rare here. Right. And so they're like God in France. If you're an actor, you know, you get chosen by a drive. director, the producer has nothing to say.

Well, speaking of one of those kind of gods, like I remember, I've only interviewed him once, but it was a huge thrill for me because growing up, Luke Vassan was somebody, I just worshipped. I know he had kind of an impact in your career, too, right? Yeah, I mean, he gets credited for more than he deserves. Okay, let's pull him down a peg. No, well, no. I mean, Luke Bisson is amazing.

When he was casting, though, looking for the fifth element, and he hadn't met Mila yet, and so he was, I think he'd seen a picture. of me in a magazine and he asked me to come in and meet with him and i didn't speak french at the time so he just i guess i said you know i'm i'm not an actress i don't know what do you really want for me i don't know how to act and um he proceeded and i was very a very young 16 like i was very green and um he so we were in an office just like this and he started telling me this horrible story about his grandmother dying i mean it was just and it was really awkward because i didn't know this man, obviously.

And so I started crying, and he was like, yes, that's good, wait. And he started, like, filming me. And obviously, he didn't give me the role. But he said, you know, I think you should be an actress rather than a model, you know. Also, I'm not very tall. He's like, I think you should try this. And I'm like, yeah, whatever. And then years later, when I went to drama school, he gave me my second job,

which was a terrible movie, but still, it was a job. And so I'm eternally grateful. Did his grandmother actually die, or did he does use that to try it? No, I feel like he lied. I don't know. I couldn't ask him. I didn't speak French, so I don't know. Just give a thumbs up or thumbs down.

Alive dead. It was a sad story. Did, I mean, you mentioned modeling. I mean, did that help in any way acting? Do you use any of those muscles for acting? Or was it totally apples and oranges? I think that's apples and oranges. Because when you're a model, you know, pose for the camera,

trying to look your best at all times. And acting is kind of, you know, the opposite of that. I mean, the camera's there. And arguably more vulnerability you show, the better. Yeah, and the more flaws or the more vulnerability you show, the better actor you are going to be.

Right. Yet I do still see you, I mean, you obviously, people talk about your fashion style a lot, and I see you at, like, at runway shows and stuff. You enjoy that? Like, from your perspective, what do you enjoy? Because I would not get much out of sitting in the front row, the fashion show.

I'm a girl, you know, I feel like why not, you know, one doesn't exclude the other. I'm not part per se of the fashion world anymore, but I'm very good friends with Carl Archerfeld and I think he's a great artist in a way, you know, like when I modeled, there's only a few really great designers, in my opinion, left, you know, like when you see the work of someone like Ysendonne or Valentino or Carl Arterfeld, you know, it's, they change the way women dress. And it's a real art, you know, that's not so much about a commercial aspect to what they do. And I really appreciate that. And I think we're women, but why not, you know? I was going to say, my limited interaction with Carl Aalgafeld, I spent a brief period of time

working at interview magazine. And Ingrid, Csci at the editor at the time was buddies with Carl and he'd come by. He's quite an eccentric, interesting character. I mean. I know. I know. We're neighbors in Paris. So I seem all the time when I'm there and I just you know there's nobody like him I mean like he he's just he he might be a sweet man but he looks to me like he should be a James Bond villain like he he thinks he's a James Bond villain he just sent me a picture of him sitting in like Mr. No you know in that in that seat with his cat I'm not going that was my Christmas gift chuppet and me vivish you are very Christmas and one year from now I shall take over the planet pretty much well

he kind of has but it's kind of weird because I have it like framed in my my bathroom and Carl stares at me. Amazing. So, pace-wise, a television show, was that a root of me, talk about Josh, I mean, network shows, 24 episodes, that's insanity. Yeah, especially an hour-wong drama like he did. Yeah. Has done a few times.

Is this manageable or is it still kind of like, because I heard you in another interview talk about one of the new things that must be interesting for you is like you're dealing with one script and another script comes in and you kind of have to juggle that in your brain and that's a different thing. It's a different way it works. It is. It's exhausting, you know. I think it's exhausting for, not just for that.

I mean, it's interesting because as the lead of a show, you know, it's me and Demi and Bashir, and we get the scripts earlier than most people, and so, you know, they ask us to give notes that are sometimes addressed, sometimes not. But also, you know, you take on this role of sort of the leader of the pack, so many people come in and out, and the only constant usually is him and I. Right. and go. Directors, but also co-stars that come and have a really big part in an episode,

but then they're gone, and it's sort of our job to make them feel comfortable. And it's just, it's a lot going on. I'm not unhappy that I'm done in two weeks. Well, not to mention, I mean, obviously, for those that have seen the show, well-known, you play a character with Asperger's, and that must, I mean, among the many challenges of something like that is it must, that inhibits ones, I mean, I'm not an expert on someone with Asperger's, you probably know better than me by now, but like you can't, I would think, react in the moment as you would to think. You can't be instinctual because that is

an inhibitor of their personality. And that's, that must be difficult. It is. The first couple of weeks every season, I mean, we're in season two, but it was very difficult to get back into it, you know, and to find the right balance and be true to someone who lives with Asperger's. The good news is for this season, I think, you know, season one, we introduced all the characters, so I think every character is a little bit more extreme, you know. He's the Mexican, she's this cop with Asperger's. And now in season two, I feel like the writers, on Elwood Reader, our producer, showrunner, has really given my character a big personal life and backstory. So I'm able to show different emotions, you know, because she has so many

limitations. So I'm going to go back for a little bit. I mean, I mentioned like these homeworks like InGlorious and Troy. I mean, at the time, for instance, Troy, which was probably the biggest scale-wise, like, you know, worldwide phenomenon at the time. Was that a huge audition when you went on and you knew like, and did you feel like from the start you were you were in the running and was it, and how big a moment is it to get a part like that in a big studio film like that at that stage in your career? Or was it? No, that was my second film. It wasn't even a big thing. I had no agent in Hollywood. And I was, filming my first picture, I think, in Montreal,

and my French agent or my English agent said, oh, they're looking for girls, why don't you put yourself on tap? Literally, that's what I did in my hotel room. Like, you know, had someone film and audition, and I sent it in, never thinking I would ever hear again. And then it was like a long process. Like they flew me out, and I came back.

And then they're like, oh, you gotta go back out. Because that's one of the things where it's filmmakers, the studio wait, Exactly. Brad probably weighs, everybody weighs in. Everybody weighs in. But I was sort of blissfully unaware of what was going on. Right.

I was just like, well, can't they not make up their mind? Like, what is going on, you know? I'm Diane Kruger. This is my second film. Just figure the fuck out. No, it's just so different the system in Europe. It's like you either, you know, get the job or you don't. They don't send it out to 5,000 different actresses.

You know, if you get the script, they want you for the movie. Does that steal you going forward for other auditions as it make it easier in the last decade to go on auditions, having been through that crazy where you probably had to read six different times. Is it a little easier or is it still kind of nerve-wracking and you hate it? It depends on the role,

you know, if you really want the role. I mean, it's just, it is what it is. And, you know, what I do think is weird that the male co-star often has a say of what his female co-cats. I mean, that is interesting. Honestly, that's something that I still can get past. I don't understand that.

And, you know, it's a male-driven industry, I guess. That is crazy to think about it. Yeah. Speaking of amazing male stars, did you get a chance to spend some time with the amazing late Peter O'Toole? I did. Yeah. Talking about characters. He's somebody that's just like must have been a joy to be around and experienced like the vitality.

He was a great vitality. But he was a piece of work. He was not a piece of cake, you know. No, I can imagine. He was, he was great to watch, you know, when he was acting. but he you know it's funny when you work with older actors like that who were who were that famous I mean he definitely commands that same attention and treatment well I'm sure still in his mind he's working with David Lee and Lawrence of Arabia

there you go and he is Peter O'Toole and he deserves it yeah it was you know for me being so green I was like what is his death is um inglorious from the start from the first time I saw it I mean everybody fell in love with that one I mean, you know, Quentin is obviously a genius and that film has, for my money, five or six scenes that are just amazing. One of them I just wanted to talk to you about because it's truly one of my favorite scenes

in the last 10, 15 years of film is the pub scene. Right, the tavern scene. The tavern scene, yeah. And kind of like, also an introduction to Michael Fastbender who since then, now we know, like, oh, that's who that guy is. But he popped off of the screen there.

Did you know who the hell this guy was before he got on the set. No, I mean, I knew he had done this one movie, I think it was called Hunger, right? And I knew that that had gotten a lot of attention in Cannes at the film festival. So I knew he was going to be good, but I didn't quite, you know,

I didn't know how good he was really going to be. And it's the same with Christoph Waltz. I'd never heard of Christoph Waltz, even though I'm German. And I remember, you know, just being in the table read, and all these great actors, and you go,

where the hell does he find these people? Seriously. And Christoph was I think probably about 50 or late 40s at the time and it's sort of like where do you find the greatest one of the greatest actors. No, seriously like 100%.

And you know it was just one of those moments where I think I remember because I don't have that many scenes with Christoph. First scene was that scene when I have the cast on and I'm trying to lie to him and he was

having this crazy laugh. I don't know if you remember the scene. Of course, yeah. And even in the scene, I was, like, kind of taken aback. I was like, what the hell is this guy's deal? Yeah, I thought he was, like, making fun of me? Right.

Like, for real. And so I was kind of taken aback. And I knew then, I was like, wow, this is like, we're watching something big. Oh, my stereotypical tweet last night after the World Cup was, that's a bingo. That's literally what I wrote. Got a lot of favorites.

I just have to say. Pretty well. I might want to get on Twitter, Diane. And just for you, I might, I might have to join. Again, don't condescend to me. That was, I was trying to flirt with you. Oh, thank you very much. That's why I've never done well with the ladies.

Yeah, maybe. Oh, my God, you're so angry. Yes, I'm German. What are you talking about? She doesn't blink, she's just staring at me dead on. Watch out. So you're almost out. You're very much looking forward to that, clearly.

Yes, two more weeks. It's been a long, I mean, you know, it's great. We're in the desert out in L.A., 110 at noon. Yeah. So it's been exhausting. One of the times I also visited you was on the set of the host, which speaking of, like, that was a, that was, that Albuquerque? Was that where that was? Yeah.

That's not on anyone's high end list of places to shoot. Let's be, let's be frank. Let's be honest. I don't know. You know, I love the countryside. I love the, like, just the setting of it, you know. I mean, would I want to live in Albuquerque? No, but, like, there's worse places to shoot.

Let's put it that way. Right. I want you to say Albuquerque sucks. That's all I'm all I need for me. I don't think it does. Why do you want me to say things? No. I'm just joking. You know what sucked?

Making a movie in Bulgaria. That sucks. Really? Yeah. Good to know. Why is that? It's Bulgaria. Not that I don't like Bulgaria.

But making a movie in Bulgaria was not, you know, just feeding yourself was a little. Right. Right, right. Albuquerque, too. I remember the food options were limited. Why? Are you like a crazy vegan?

Yeah, I look like a big, yeah, obviously, look at my body. No, it's all nachos all the time. Really? They had no nacho? Maybe that's what it is. That was the problem. So you're not going to wedge in a film because you kind of, after four months of doing this, you kind of want to take a breather.

Well, I'm definitely going to take a month off. Yeah. And then, like I said, I'm going to make a French film. Oh, right, right. In our remaining moments, you might have noticed the strange Indiana Jones fedora sitting on my desk, or maybe not. Maybe you were just staring at me intently trying to murder. I don't know.

Well, there is that. These are random questions. Would you like to pick a few and see how we do? Now we grab a half. Here we go. Did you prepare that before I came in? I have. Did you have your assistant fold all these pieces?

I wish I had an assistant. It's kind of you to think that. What do we go? Zombies or vampires? You know, neither ones, but I would go with vampires. Why is that? Kind of cooler.

Zombies just want to. I don't like to be scared, so I don't like to watch zombie movies. Okay. Fair enough. Fernal. Vampires, I guess. You can deal with.

Well. There's a romanticism to vampires. Let's continue to do a couple more. More? Oh, please. Fun. My closest brands and family

call me crooks. Crooks. That's good. Crooks. I like it. It's also my favorite champagne brand. It works out well for everybody. Totally.

We'll do you rapid fire and I'll let you enjoy your vacation soon, hopefully. Yeah. My favorite. Halloween costume. Okay, so there's a lot because I love Halloween. Do you? You're a Halloween person? Totally. Okay. Peter Pan was

one of the favorites. I went as a as friend Dresher and the nanny many years. No, I really did. Do you do a friend dresser nanny voice? Mr. Sheffield. I do. It was my favorite show growing up. We were just talking about it. But I did her for Halloween a couple

times. Wow. You should do friend dresser as Peter Pan. No, that's sick. That's just wrong I did Malini Dietrich in the Blue Angel A couple years That was nice You know they're looking to cast

Peter Pan in a live musical on television But I can't sing so that's not going to work out No Unfortunately can you do one more Yeah sure Favorite cartoon character Well Calvin and Hobbs

Okay Because I have a cat called and I call Josh Calvin because they play together like... Oh, ending on a sweet note. There you go. It's a real pleasure always to catch up with you. Thank you. Congratulations on the second season at the bridge.

Thanks so much. It's really fun. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom. You want to tell him? Or you want me to tell him? No, no, no. I got this. People out there. Yeah.

People. lean in, get close, get close. Listen, here's the deal. We have big news. We got monumental news. We got snack-tacular news. Yeah, after a brief hiatus, my good friend, Michael Ian Black, and I are coming back. My good friend, Tom Kavanaugh and I are coming back to do what we do best.

What we were put on this earth to do. To pick a snack. To eat a snack. And to rate a snack. Nentifically? Emotionally? Spiritually. Mates is back.

Mike and Tom eat snacks. is back. A podcast for anyone with a mouth. With a mouth. Available wherever you get your podcasts.