Happy Sad Confused - Domhnall Gleeson Vol. II

Episode Date: January 26, 2018

It's the 200th episode of "Happy Sad Confused" and what better way to celebrate than to bring back one of our favorite guests, Domhnall Gleeson! It seems like it's always an embarrassment of riches when Domhnall re-enters the spotlight and that's certainly the case right now with no less than three films out within weeks of each other, "A Futile and Stupid Gesture", "Star Wars: The Last Jedi", and "Peter Rabbit". Josh visits with Domhnall who is enjoying his first Sundance film festival with the story of the rise and fall of the National Lampoon, "A Futile and Stupid Gesture", premiering there. But of course this conversation veers all over the place in the best possible way with plenty of fun Star Wars talk and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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See Golden Nugget Casino.com for details. Please play responsibly. Today on Happy Sack Confused, we celebrate 200 episodes with Donald Gleason, talking a futile and stupid gesture and Star Wars, The Last Jedi. Hey guys, I'm Josh Harrow. It's happy 200, Sammy. We are wasted right now. Yeah, we're wearing party hats. I'm even more drunk than usual.

Yeah, Donald Gleason, get out of here. Who would have thunk it? We've made it to 200 episodes. That's crazy. It's crazy. With a very special guest. Yeah, a returning guest, Donald Gleason. Friend of the show.

I consider him a friend of the show. Family of the show. Yes. He caught up with him at Sundance Film Festival. This is the third of the podcast that I recorded in Park City, Utah for Sundance. I am back here in New York. Healthy? Healthy.

Ish. I'm alive. I'm sitting upright as upright as I ever get. And do I seem like a shell of a man or the same kind of shell of a man I always was? Yeah, it's the same. Okay, good. Except you have a little, you actually are a little better because you have like the post I just hung out with all my best friends. All my big friends. Yeah, blow to you. That's true. And I saw a bunch of movies.

Yeah, give us the highlights. I think the count was 17 movies all in all. Are you serious? Yeah. And I saw a couple before I got there. And I don't know. That's insane. is a lot. But it was good. It's a really fun festival. And I don't know. I didn't have like one favorite. There were a few that I would cite. I saw, you were never really here, which is coming out in a few months with, I saw two Joaquin Phoenix movies. He's excellent in both of them. You were never really here. It's directed by Lynn Ramsey. She's the woman that directed, we need to talk about Kevin. Did you ever see the Ezra Miller movie? Oh, with, um, Ezra. Ezra. Ezra and Tilda Swinton. Yeah, not a comedy.

And this one is in either This one's almost like Like a more fucked up version of drive It's basically Joaquin Phoenix Drive's pretty fucked up by the way I know but it's even more like Drive's not a rom-com No it's not but this one's even more extreme

It's Joaquin Phoenix kind of like It's almost like an art house taken It's it's very well done I saw charming This might be more up your alley I was gonna say charming is more I like that charming Nick Hornby's story Oh

It's called Juliet Naked Chris O'Dowd Come on. In. Ethan Hawk, Rose Byrne. Rose Byrne. In? Yeah, sorry.

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. She's with Bobby Carnivali. Of course. I mean, yeah. So that's a really, that's a really charming one. I don't know.

They saw a bunch. I saw Ophelia, which is an interesting take on Hamlet, starting Daisy Ridley. I saw. Another friend of the show, Daisy Ridley. The voice of Happy Say I confused. American Animals. We talked about with Evan Peters the other day. A lot of movies in my brain right now.

But I'm happy to be back. I'm happy to be in my cozy office in New York. I'm happy that we're going to be shooting a fun sketch soon with someone we just mentioned recently. I'm not going to say who. I was going to say, are you going to tell him? No, we don't want to jinx it. Oh, boy. And any take on the Oscar nominations?

This is our first podcast since the Oscar Nominations. Oh, my God. Yes. She's composing herself. No, that's it. Yes, I have takes on it. I don't want to share that. No, um...

Yes. You know what I was most excited about? Well, Gratioam, we got an arm. Logan. Logan. Logan. I was like, that was, like, made my heart full. Screenplay.

I was, yes. That's great. I was very happy to see that as well. For Mancold, I was, yeah, that was great. That was great. I was happy to see Phantom Thread got a bunch. That was a little, a nice surprise. I was a little bummed that two of our podcast buddies, Army Hammer, Michael Stoolbarg,

were both contenders, supposedly. Michael Stulbarg was, that one's like crazy to me. It would have been nice to see one of those get in there. For a project, some thought it would get a picture, didn't get in there, but at least WomdeFoe got a nom. But on the whole, I will say, I think the right films, at least films that I respect and like are nominated. So the Academy, you can rest easy.

You got Josh. Yeah, Josh isn't mad at you right now. Unless La La Land wins this year. And then I'm going to be so much. How shocking would that be? They open the envelope and it's all the land again. Oh, my God. It's never going away.

Don't let Faye Dono neared that envelope. Yeah, I feel pretty good about it. Okay, good, good, good. Well, here's a conversation with, I mean, he's in like 16 movies this year, so maybe a contender for next year's Oscars for Peter Rabbit or a futile and stupid gesture, Donald Gleason. Oh, my God. What if he gets nominated for Peter Rabbit? That'd be amazing.

General Hucks himself. I mean, oh, yes. So just to say a little bit about this conversation, a little bit of an abbreviated one, all the podcasts recorded at Sundance, you know, it's hard to get kind of 45 minutes, so it's a little bit shorter than usual. But that being said, we cover a lot of ground. The movie that he was there to talk about is a movie called A Futile and Stupid Gesture. It is on Netflix, I believe, as we speak. And it is, it tells the story of the guys that kind of revolutionized comedy in the 70s with the Harvard Lampoon turning into a national lampoon, of course. movies like Caddyshack and vacation. And it's got a cavalcade of great stars like Don't know, of course, but Will Forte is the lead of the film, Joel McHale, playing Chevy Chase, actually. Oh, my God. So it's a really interesting film for comedy nerds out there to kind of like learn. Which he is.

Yes. Nobody knows. Like if you, based on, you know, his film career, you would have no idea that he's a real comedian. Yeah, yeah. We talked about this in the last podcast and we do a little bit on this one. If you love Donald Gleason, and of course you should if you have good taste, go down the YouTube rabbit hole and look up some of his old sketches that he did back in Ireland. They are hysterical.

They're legitimately awesome and really crude in a fun way. Yeah, he's crazy. Yeah, yeah. And we do in this conversation, I will say, of course, I couldn't let him go without talking a bunch about Star Wars, The Last Jedi, about sort of the different reactions to it, about the humor in the film. Yeah, I want to know about that opening scene. a lot about that. Amazing. Okay, so stay tuned, Sammy. All right, I'll listen to this one. And all of you guys out there, remember, 200 episodes, guys. Come on, review, rate, subscribe. As a special present for 200 episodes. That's all I ask of you guys. In the meantime.

Dave and Allison, we're still looking at you. It doesn't need to be under your name. Still waiting for that. No, it does. Really? You want a Franco on the reviews? Okay. Yeah, and a break. Okay. I want Trudy. Okay. Anyway, on. to Donald Gleason, enjoy this conversation, and here's the 200 more. Here we go, yeah. It's just beginning, guys.

We're just getting started. Just getting started. Why look, for the 200th episode of Happy Second Fused, I can think of nobody better than Mr. Donald Gleason. For the what episode? 200th episode of the Civil War podcast. Congratulations. That's amazing. Thank you. Fantastic.

Have you brought me a present? Yes. It's outside. It's just outside. You'll get it after this. As soon as we're done here. The story never ends well with that promise. It's waiting for you.

Yeah. Oh, wait. I wanted to show you a photo because we're here in Sundance. Is this your first Sundance, by the way? Yes, I've had, I think Brooklyn was here before, but I wasn't able to. I was working and I couldn't get here. So I think this was 2012. So that's six years ago.

Look, your dad needed me in the crotch six years ago here at Sundance, Don Chito and him. That is, look at my dad's face. He's so angry. Do you know that face? Yes, will you send that to me? That's absolutely brilliant. Oh, man. That was a great movie as well.

It was a good movie. Yeah, you can need me in the crotch afterwards. It's good to see you, man. A lot going on. It's always like feast or famine with you. It's always like, you know, 2015, there were like six movies, I feel like. 2016, no donal. Zero donal.

Went into the cave. Yeah, I did. And now 2017, 18, it's like six more movies. Yeah, it really kicked off again. And, like, obviously, we were working during that time, but then it all just, they all come out at the same time and you look like you are just a beast for the work. And I'm not really. I have lots of time off, you know. So the one that we definitely want to give some love to today is a futile and stupid gesture, which I say futile.

I was going to ask you actually. Everyone else is feudal. Feudal. It's, well, it's not a feudal, a feudal. Yeah, but they do the D, the American D instead of a T thing. They're like a feudal and stupid gesture. And I'm like, you know, pretty posh. Yeah.

This one, you guys, you know, I have. hate paying you compliments, but I'm going to tell you this. I watched this movie not knowing anything about it a few weeks ago in New York. And literally, I did not realize it was you for the first 25 minutes of the film. You're like, who's this for? I thought it was a great performance. I was like, but like, I had no, and like, that never happens to me. Oh, that's cool. I think that is, I think that's a nice, I hope that. Yeah, I'll take that as a compliment. No, I'll take that for sure. Yeah, Henry Beard was a very different looking guy to me. And I think we got pretty close with the look on it and stuff, you know, so.

I was really happy about that, but did you like the movie? I did like it. Be honest about it. There's no point pretending. Here's the way to tell. I would be like this. People can't see. No, no.

I'm still getting the hangers on the 200 of that episode. He's touching himself. He's touching himself. I don't know. Just keeps me going. When you lie, you... Um, we was going to say, oh, so we've obviously talked about your comedy past and your inclinations.

Does that make this project a little bit more appealing, given that it's telling a pretty pivotal tale and the evolution of recent comedy? Yeah, for sure. And also, you know, it's weird because I hadn't seen Animal House or I don't think yet. I'd even seen Caddyshack. I'd seen bits of all of them. Right. But they're not as part of the canon on my side of the water as they are over here. Right. But then it's funny because I would like David Wayne's stuff an awful lot. And a lot of the people in this film, they're huge touchstones for them. Yeah. So I liked all this comedy that was influenced by all this stuff. And I just didn't know where the kind of influence had come from. So it was really, yeah, it was really exciting. And also a very different. different atmosphere and set up and group of actors than I'd worked with before. So it was really exciting. You know, it kind of starts as kind of a bit of a two-hander with you and the crazy

Will Forte. I mean, again, in a positive way. I love him so much. You guys could have a beard off, I feel like. You guys could go toe to toe. You know, I had this really stupid idea of going, because Will's not here. Yeah. Honestly, Will's not here at the moment. But he did press once. He was doing Last Man on Earth. And he did press once where he was doing Last Man on Earth. And he did press once where He had a massive beard, and he did half, but, like, half beard, no eyebrow on one side, and all of his head shaved him on one side. And then a huge amount of hair on the other side. And I was thinking, I couldn't shave my head, but I was thinking of going half beard for the premiere, you know what I mean, like, just to kind of, as a kind of a nod to him.

Totally. Yeah, yeah. This part seems that fit him to a team. It seems kind of like a perfect kind of, like, for his sensibilities and his talents. Yeah, but I knew him. I mean, he'd done the Alexander Payne movie, which was serious, yeah, before. but I hadn't seen him in, and he'd done an Irish film, which was, which was quite serious as well. So, but I, I knew him for his comedy work.

And he is brilliant in the film, I think, you know, he's really, really good. I mean, you know, I don't know if I would call you the straight guy in this, but you're definitely, well, yeah, I mean, you're definitely the drier, you know, of that, of that, too. Is that more fun for you to play, kind of, because I've seen you do both now. I mean, you definitely can go big, but it's, I guess it's rewarding, too, to kind of be the guy that's. he held back he was there was a lot of poker face with henry beard you know and he was very cerebral and he was the kind of dad the kind of strict dad of the family you know or that's how he was perceived at least you know he was a very funny man and who was none of it happens without him but yeah that was kind of his role in things and he kept the thing going totally and kept the thing being funny when dug kenny was kind of off going you know a little bit wild totally so okay you mentioned that the the lampoon those initial lampoon films were necessarily big where you were growing up. What were the comedies that you, we talked about your, I remember your film influences, but we talked to little Coen Brothers, which can go into comedy a little bit. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Before, I mean, before you were a sophisticated

Coen Brothers watcher, what was, what was the first stuff that you knew by heart? When I, I knew all of Mary Poppins when I was a kid, I absolutely adored Mary Poppins. And still, I mean, just those two actors, you know, I've got a signed book by Dick Van Dyke, which is one of my treasured possessions. I listened back to our podcast a couple years ago, and we talked a little Mary Poppins, and we talked a little Mary Poppins and I was trying to get you the part of the chimney sweep apparently that didn't work out. No, it didn't. Have they released that

Mary Poppins, the new one? No, I mean as a dire Mary Poppins fan, clearly you're like harbors some resentment. Yeah, well, a little bit. This Christmas when Manuel Miranda Miranda guy got the role? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not fair. What did he ever do? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What has he done in the musical world that has had any effect on things? They clearly never saw me do Greece in Navan when I was 16. I did. I did. And I did Greece in my school, yeah, when I was 16, which was, yeah, and I played duty. I didn't even have all that great a part. Anyway. It always goes back to poop with you. Yeah, I know, I know. Again, we didn't call it duty. That's not what we call it in Ireland. What else? I love Bambi. I loved. And then, but like by the time I was into my teens, I suppose, like Jim Carrey's first big year. Right. Like those three movies. Ace Ventura, probably. And dumb and dumber, maybe. All were within a year of each other. And that blew my head off. You know, like the Farall your brother's thing would be a big. That really makes me laugh.

Yeah, yeah. I remember seeing, like, I'm a few years older than you, but I remember seeing there's something about Mary in the theater. How old are you? I'm 41. Oh, you were a few years old than me. I didn't think so. Yeah, I'm 34.

Okay, okay. Yep, Evergreen. Yes, I saw that also in the, I think my uncle Morris brought me to see, was there something about Mary or was it? Oh, Kingpin was amazing, too, that the Fowlerod was hilarious. Oh, my God. All those films, you look back, I mean, they just had so many amazing ones in a row. And Jim Carrey just operating on full-on, make people happy mode.

I mean, it was really beautiful. So speaking of comedy, since we, the last time I saw you was at Star Wars premiere. Yeah. You hadn't seen the movie. You've seen the movie. Yeah. Did you enjoy the movie as much as I? I love the movie.

I know this is a divisive issue. I don't know why, because I love the damn movie so much. But one of the key points of division among some fans is the comedy. Yeah, which I understand. you know like if you expect it to be a certain way and it's not that way you're going to be disappointed like you can't decide not to be disappointed if you are disappointed you are right i just it's my opinion that the movie that the movies it was better to change things up than remain on the same kind of tram line sort of thing and i thought ryan had tremendous um respect for everything

that had gone before but he also did his own thing and i think for a filmmaker like him who would be foolish not to have him do his own thing. No, I'm with you a thousand percent. So that early scene with you and Poe, this kind of like the broken phone call essentially kind of of scene. Do you remember shooting that and was there like debate about like how far we can take this and like did it feel? Well it was interesting because

we went up and down the scale in terms of how you know put out hooks would be by it and Oscar was actually there. Oscar read his lines off camera for that which is a really cool thing to do so we could feel what like the energy in the room and yeah we went all the way up and down and they used

the bigger stuff so that's what they that's what they wanted you know and I think it's I just think what he says is this is going to be different right at the start and if you don't like it then maybe this isn't going to be your favorite one and if you do like it you're going to love the way that they've kind of made things different were you surprised relieved that you A came back and B survived the second film I'll be honest I was very surprised that I survived I kind of imagined myself getting blown up in a ship pretty early on, but spoiler alert, I suppose, like, but there's

also that moment, there's a moment where Wren is on the ground and it looks like maybe off in. But like, what state would the franchise be in if like Snoke and Wren are gone? And it's just Hux going right. I mean, this is how we go. Can you imagine how

how annoyed people would have been? It's just him. Episode nine, the rise of Hux. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, which I keep pitching to J.J., but he's not answering my emails. Yeah, that would have been a very different thing. Oh, my God. Have you by now come up with a Hux backstory

about his tough childhood? There is a whole Hux backstory which has been written for me that I wasn't told about, which is an issue. I really wish, and I'm going to actually tell them because a reporter told me

what my first name was, did not know, Armitage. Thanks for that, Disney. So I was not aware of that. And then there's a whole thing. and I think my dad's name and it is Brendol. Oh, that's a coincident

co-winky ink? Yeah, I think is that like a wink to my dad or something like that? A co-winky wink to my dad? Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, there's a whole backstory there apparently

that I've been getting in dribs and drabs off obsessive Star Wars fans but I need to buy whatever novel it is. I mean, I had my own version but that's not true now apparently. What was your own version? I can't talk about it because then it'll be anti-canon.

That's amazing. I feel like, You get short shrift because, you know, we talk a lot about the, the Kylo-Rae relationship and, like, where it's going. It's pronounced Kylo Ren. You've been making a fool of yourself. You're such an idiot. But, like, you know, the Hux-Kailo relationship is really being put through the ringer. I don't know if there's any going back, or if it's not back.

You guys probably were never friends. I don't know if there's, like, a future for you, too. The white picket fence may not materialize? I don't know. The way he's pushing you around, man. I know. Oh, yeah. See, I like the idea that he just gets, that Hux gets abused. Because I think at a certain point, somebody who gets, the whole thing was, Ryan talked about, like, he's like a kicked dog.

When that dog eventually bites, it's going to be, he's going to bite hard. You know what I mean? Like he, like, when it finally snaps, he's going to do something really nasty. Right. So my hope is that that's the way it goes. But, I mean, we just, we just don't have any, maybe they'll make up and, you know, that'll be a, no? No? No. I don't think so. Maybe that'll be the twist. Them getting married.

In the last thing with all the people there. Yeah, yeah. Music swells, John Williams' score. Yeah. Yeah, I also recently saw your one of many new films, Peter Rabbit, and it struck me. You've seen it? Yeah, yeah. Okay, we need to talk about that off air because you're probably not only to talk about it.

No, I'm happy to. Okay. How is it? Is it good? Yeah, yeah. It's super fun. And what I found amusing when I'm thinking in relation to Star Wars is yet another movie where you're being like kicked around like a rag doll yeah why do people enjoy seeing poor donoglisen just

having the shit kicked out of the way i make it okay in my head is i say they enjoy seeing hooks get beaten up and they enjoy seeing mr mcgregor being beaten up no it's just me no no that's not good for the old something about that face i've definitely got it was somebody said in the in the comments on i mdb once uh he just always looks pissed like had a thing about how i just look like somebody you want to hit and I guess I've now made a living out of it which is great I mean I'm so happy um yeah that was like just a whole different level of being beaten up because that was like I got pretty pretty injured pretty early on on that and it was also in 40 degree weather actually a really injured you're saying like no like sprained my ankle spray my back and and crack some ribs

like all early in the process and then had to maintain running around in I don't know what 40 degrees is in money over here, like in terms of Fahrenheit. I don't know what that is, but it's as hot as it can be in Australia. It was while we were filming outdoors, pretending it was England running around the garden. That's crazy. They used to put me in a room called the fridge. They called it the fridge. They would go in, in between takes

and just blast me with cold air to try and dry the sweat out of my clothes, and then fighting in like a glass house with a rabbit. Like, yeah, so it was, I was just injured for three months on that. Did you lose your mind a little bit? Because I remember the infamous story of, like, Bob Hoskins on who from Roger Rabbit. He, like, he, like, cracked. Did he?

Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Because, I mean, obviously, Rose Burns in it, and there are human actors there, but you're playing opposite, you know, I'm sure, some tennis balls or whatever the equivalent of nowadays. Yeah, but it's better than James Corden actually being there. You know what I mean?

If he'd been there, I would have really lost my mind. No, it was, it was, yeah, it was odd. But it's also just hard to gauge where to put the comedy. Right. Because you don't know how it's going to look afterwards. You don't know how it's going to read. If there's you and a thing in the room and you actually are having a fight, you know what's funny and you know what's not whereas with that it was like really hard to gauge so

that was what was driving me out in my mind and then the days with rose were just such a pleasure because she knew will she is an amazing actress she's amazingly funny and she makes it look like she's not trying right right which is the goal of any actor which is the goal of any actor but i really don't succeed at that a lot of the time and she well no but she was just like it was like okay i can get into her zone here or try to at least because she's just amazing i just saw her. We were obviously in Sundance. One of the dozen or so movies I saw, maybe my favorite is outside of yours, of course. Yeah. I don't count yours because I saw it before

Sundance. Sure, that's why he don't count it. Juliet naked, roses in, and it's a really charming, it's based, I guess, on a Nick Hornby story. Is Chris O'Dowden that as well? Yes. Very cool. This is so charming and wonderful. Yeah. Do you harbor resentment towards Chris O'Dout? I feel like there's an underlying hatred. No, none at all. I mean, I don't hate him. I don't like him. No, he's, look, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's not like a bad person. He's just, he's not, he's not, he's not a good person.

Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Me and Chris go way back. Sarcassum always goes really well. I actually, yeah. I'm not being sarcastic. No, we did, are we both auditioned for a thing for like a workshop. I remember auditioning for a workshop that Chris was at. We're both auditioning for it. You should have to audition to get into the workshop. Yeah, to get into the workshop. And, um, And for a job that never ended up happening, but you had to arrive with a character and then just do improv-y stuff. And I remember Chris was just so damn funny.

I didn't know who he was. And it was like, that guy is amazing. And he's continued to be amazing ever since. Speaking of auditions, when's the last time that you had a horrible, horrible, horrible audition that made you cry afterwards? Does that ever know? I had, yeah, I won't say the name in the movie

because it makes it seem odd, but one of my absolute, favorite filmmakers in the world ever was making a film and I sent in about 15 tapes 16 tapes maybe was it all once or did you be like oh sure try this one over about four days I sent one in with a mustache one without a mustache I was like maybe that'll help and um just just it just it it they kept sending notes back and I kept on not doing it right and I could just feel I'm not doing it right but I would so desperately I would audition forever to be in this person's films and um Um, yeah, and that was a hard, that was hard.

I didn't know Vin Diesel directed movies. That's crazy. Yeah. Do they, is it triple X, or is it X, X, X, X. What do you say? Oh, I think, I say triple X. Yeah, I say triple X. Okay.

Okay. And for each sequel, do they just add on an X? Yeah. Or no, a one. It should be like, so 31. Right. We should just call it 30. X, X, X, X, X, X should be called 30 for in terms of Roman numerals, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You try talking sense to Vin Diesel. Good luck with that. Vin, listen, be reasonable. I would love to say words that have never been spoken to him, or if they have, they haven't registered. Vin, Vin, Vin, Vin, Vin, Vin.

Vin's been on the podcast. He is quite a character. I love Vin. He's something special. Sarcasm doesn't come across well on V. No, I do. I really do. Please, I've covered all of those movies.

He's a unique individual. I would love to see you guys in a buddy comedy. Let's make it happen. I really want to do, well. No, I would, I would do. We didn't make the Merry Popism. I want to do like a midnight run. I want to do like a midnight run type comedy.

And let's say the rock. I'm going to be honest and say I prefer the rock to Vin Diesel by quite a distance. I don't think Vin will mind me saying that. Not a controversial stance, don't worry. But yeah, yeah. So that's what I'm trying to get out. I'm trying to sell it to studios at the moment. Do you have a script?

Or just a pitch. And also the rock doesn't know about it. And also there's no story. It's just literally me and the rock. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, yeah. Imagine Midnight Run.

But instead of Robert. It's me. And he's Charles Groton? So he's the stuffy one. Yeah, he's the uptight one. Yeah, yeah. You're the badass. Yeah, yeah.

Good luck with that. What the hell are you talking about? Nothing. I noticed on the IMDB, did you film a short with your dad that he directed? Yes, that my brother Rory wrote, that my brother Brian is in and my father is in, that my brother Fergus did the music for. It's a Gleason affair. Wow.

Yeah. Was that fun to be directed by dad? it was it was I had directed him before in a short film and and then so this was just kind of turning the table sort of thing he was very very good and John Borman visited the set my dad did a couple jobs at John Borman and he came out the set and it was um this script was really good and I mean I think it's

excellent so they finished it over Christmas it was brilliant yeah um one other thing in our in our dwindling moments I want to mention one of your other recent films dwindling moments are we nearly done we're in the home stretch oh that's a pity Mother, which I, by the way, did you see this mother got nominated for Razzie Awards, which is a crock of whatever? Did it really? Yeah, isn't that, that's fucked up. It's not fucked up. The Razis just are out to make a splash.

That's nothing to do with what's actually good or not. I'm not trying to get you to say horrible things about the Razies, though. I don't think that would be controversial. I really don't want to piss off the Razies. I can't afford to piss off. I guarantee that, am I nominated this year? I don't think you're nominated. It's going to, well, it's in the pipeline.

That's not true. No, but I'm okay with that. I think that's fine. And I would, and I will say this very truly, I would rather be in something, like I say, even Star Wars, Star Wars is, Star Wars is people love it, and then some people are just really annoyed

about some of the stuff. And then, and then the same with Mother. Some people, it was just not the movie for them at all. And I really respect that. I'm like, yes, the bit, you know, the bit were the baby and all that, that bit. Some people are not going to like that.

I think that is absolutely fine, but I love it. Did you enjoy that? Aronowski is such a brilliant filmmaker, obviously. And the way he shot that seemed like it was very unique. It was incredibly exhilarating. It was just like, and the actors in that room. It was like me and my brother. I remember like sharing a kind of a cigarette before we went in to go in to rehearse

with Jennifer Lawrence, Michelle Pfeiffer, Ed Harris, Javier Bardem. And Aaronowski. too. Yeah, we went in, we did a few days. Yes. The Lars won truer style kind of thing. And brilliantly they had, so they had, because like they do in theater, they taped off the floor. Right. So you can see

where the walls are and the doors, you know, so it's the exact same size as it's going to be. But because it's a two-story set, they had green tape for all the walls on the first floor. Right. And then yellow tape over the green tape to show the levels. Yeah, above, because they didn't have enough space to do both floors. And

my brother, Breen, is colorblind. Oh, no. And just kept on being told, you've walked through a wall he's like I thought we were on the first floor it's like the green and yellow yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah you're dead the movie's over congratulations um but

just the nerves of going into that room and then them all being so nice and so amazing immediately it was like it was that's what you live for and Darren was just absolute joy and I think the film is super it's pretty special yeah I hadn't uh I know all those guys

except for Javier I hadn't talked to much and I interviewed him for that film he's such a terming like oh my god he's the nicest man the world and he i i like brilliantly i got like a half a second with each of them in the movie um and like your hair like you just the hair stands up on the back of your balls i don't know when ab your bordeaux you begin to walk it's only on the back it's weird um yeah like just the moments like that are moments that i never thought i was going to experience

as an actor and um they're they're at the like if if i if i am out of work or whatever. They are the things you look back on and said, holy shit, I got to do some cool stuff. The last performance I want to mention that I saw of yours recently, which was an unexpected one, was, I was in Florida,

and I was on a ride at the Harry Potter world, and I saw my good old friend on Alder Street, right there, stalking me, he's here. Why is he here? You will be like, you're immortal, I mean, forget the films that are immortalized. You're immortalized on... In two theme park rides.

One, too? Because the Star Wars one, some there as well. That's amazing. It's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. Have you been on those rides? Have you seen yourself? I've not been on the Star Wars one.

No, I've been on the Harry Potter one. Is that an interesting experience? Is that a... The Harry Potter one? Yeah, but that one is kind of more for kids, that ride. Right. You know, the Star Wars, I'm hoping, is like, you know... Right.

The Star Wars, you know, I'm on the polite Harry Potter ride. I'm not on the one that makes you... The NC-17 one. Yeah, that makes stuff come out of you somewhere. You know what I mean? Right. I knew this interview was. too classy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right at the end. Happy 200 episode. I shit myself. And when am I going to see you? Is this another year-on gap we're going to take? Yeah, I think so. I think so. No, I did a film with Lenny Abrams,

which I'm just super, super excited about. Ruth Wilson, Charlotte Rampling, Will Poulter, all these amazing actress, this actress Liv Hill, who's just superb as well. And so, yeah, that'll be, I think it's due to be out in the summer. Yeah, and I think it's going to be odd and I think that it's going to be great. Lenny's one of those guys who just doesn't really make bad movies

You look at the last couple of movies Like the guy's got ranch He has he can do everything He is one of the special ones I still got the Frank mask hanging in my office Oh yeah you got them You got a mask I really wanted one of the heads And did not get a did not get a head

Does Michael just have you think like a dozen heads In his racial estate But they're people's heads Yeah well Big bigger issues for Michael Fast Senderly Exactly Well it's good to see you as always man Enjoy your first on episode 200

That's absolutely amazing. Thank you. We're going to go outside and I can't wait to see my present. Yep. What? Let's go. Here we go.

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