Happy Sad Confused - Elisha Cuthbert

Episode Date: March 30, 2015

The lovely and talented Elisha Cuthbert joins Josh this week to talk about her new sitcom on NBC called One Big Happy, always loving comedy but gravitating to more dramatic acting roles early on, her amazing time on Happy Endings, being a child actor in Canada, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad Confused. I'm Josh Horowitz. Welcome back to my podcast. I presume you've listened before because I can tell by the way you're listening, by the way that you're silently absorbing the information coming out of my mouth, that you've listened before.

So welcome back. If I'm in error about this, I apologize, and welcome aboard the HappySaid Confused Transfxed. and welcome to an episode after a little respite. We had a week off. No guest last week. I apologize. I'm sorry. I've got a day job, guys.

But this is truly a labor of love, and I hate to miss a week. So I apologize that we missed one last week. But hopefully you took that opportunity to enjoy the 50 plus amazing episodes of HappySeg Confused in the archives over at wolfpop.com or in your iTunes subscription. So now that you're fully up to date on everything we've done on HappySag Confused, Let's dive into a new episode, which is the lovely, the talented Miss Alicia Cuthbert. That's right, that Canadian treasure, Alicia, was my guest this week, came by the office to talk about her new sitcom on NBC called One Big Happy. It is produced by none other than Ellen DeGeneres. That's pretty good pedigree to have as you launch back into a TV show.

Alicia, of course, has had a lot of success in television, going back to 24, such an iconic, amazing show that put her on the map and kind of reinvigorated Kiefer's career. And then I know, if you listen to this podcast, I assume a lot of you actually loved happy endings, which was a truly beloved show gone too soon. It was fun to talk to Alicia about both of those things, about her film career, who doesn't love the girl next door, such a classic film. And she's just like a fun, cool actress who I haven't had a chance really to talk to at length. So totally great to get to know her in this capacity here and to put up with my silly questions. So without any further ado, I guess we'll let you guys listen to the conversation. But as always, guys, hit me up on Twitter, Joshua Horowitz. Let me know who you want to hear.

Some really, really, really cool guests coming up. And happy to say, I feel remiss. if I didn't mention this, we haven't had enough women on the show, and it's through no conscious effort, of course, but I have noticed that recently. And luckily, as I look at the board of upcoming guests, there are some great female actresses coming up that I think you guys are going to be stoked to see and hear from. So that's a good thing. Definitely I want to keep this show as diverse as possible, obviously, you know, information and stories from all walks of life. So I look forward to that as we just strive to keep.

the show interesting, as I strive to keep the show interesting. What else is there to say, except enjoy this episode with the lovely, the talented, the delightful. Insert your own adjective here. Here she is, Miss Alicia Cuthbert. You're running around town today? Yeah, like a crazy person. Good. That's the only way to do it. That's how we do it. That's how you do it. That's how we do. We're going to get right into it. Are you cool with that? Yes, of course.

I know you're a podcast veteran. Of course. No, I'm not. I mean, I've done a couple. Does that mean? That's the warm effect. We've talked before. We have.

You came by MTV a couple years ago. Yes, I did. Yeah, okay. Now I'm remembering, yes. You passed the test because I don't just let anybody in on this podcast. I know. It's kind of fancy in here. Is fancy the words?

Is that how you describe? The creaky building that you feel might tip over at any point? Yeah. Is that the window? Isn't that freaky? I just want you to share in my pain and misery, as I know that one day... How about, like, a window wash? I mean, like, what...

Do you not get those, like, guys that hang out the back? Oh, you're right. That's disgusting. Look at this. I mean, at least get a little window wash. Yeah. Well, and also, you get a view of the hotel over here. Yes, there have been.

There are naked people sometimes there. So if you get distracted, I understand completely. Oh, thank you. Crazy. Congrats on the new show. Thank you. You did? I did.

It's very fun. and so are you guys all done with the season already? Are you... Yeah, we're done. That's good. Because we're mid-season, so we're eight, so that's my purse vibrating. I'm so sorry. It's very awkward. Ooh, inappropriate.

But yeah, we did six because we're mid-season. Right. So, yeah. That's awesome. So it's funny, like, I wanted to cover a bunch of stuff with you, but looking at, like, the career of Alicia Cuthbert. It's crazy because, like, you're obviously so young, but you're obviously so young, but you already had, like, these different iterations in your... I know. So many different segments.

Yeah. I mean, by the time you're 80, you're going to have, like, live 25 different lives. I know. It's kind of weird. It's like Donald Sutherland, you know? Totally. A million movies and... Just reinvent every five years. Yeah. Yeah.

Gosh. Because you already kind of reinvented the comedy thing, but this is kind of a different iterations. I say comes a much different kind of thing, obviously. It's a totally different, it's a totally different beast. It's like, it's, the concept is different. the humor is different. The timing is unique and unusual

because you've got an audience and they're laughing and so you have to break for laugh. And it's so wild. It's hard to explain. But it's exciting because it's something I've never done before. So it makes it all so very new and fresh. Is this literally the first time you've ever done like the studio audience thing?

Yeah. I mean, I think the only thing after this will be like soap opera. I don't know if that's the trajectory. You usually start there. Franco did it. That's true. Franco made it cool for everybody now. If Franco can do it.

It's like, he wanted to be like, I've done every medium. I'm like, I'm going to start back over again. I'm going to be like, bitch, so have I. You are kind of the female, James Franco. You have people been saying you need to, you need to, like, um, they're questioning my sexuality. You can teach an acting class in the morning and then do like a weird Terence Malick movie in the afternoon.

Absolutely. And a soap opera at night. Yeah, just, you know. So are you? Just crushing it on all angles. Yeah. He's a unique dude to say at least. Look, you got a picture of him right there.

too. This is so weird. I just look over and I'm like, ah, he's on the wall. He's waiting for you. I didn't even think of that. Did you see the interview? Did you see that? I, of course I did. He's bizarre. He's insane. He is so over the top, crazy in that film. But he's kind of, it's. But it works. It's amazing. He's fearless, which is what you wanted an actor. That'll just go for it. He, uh, I mean, no one was like, hey, rain it in. Nope. He's like, they did. He was like, uh, uh, no, he went, screw you. Because I don't know what that word means. my own way. I'm Franco. I don't know why he's telling like Clint Eastwood all of a sudden.

But yeah, I love that whole crew and I just thought oh, I thought it was great. So is there fear, talking about fearlessness? Is there fear the first time you're in front of that audience? It's not going away. I thought it would go away. I thought, oh, if I got like one episode under my belt

you got this now. I'm like an old pro. Right. I'll be fine. No? Not so much. I'm like terrified every Friday. It's just like, it's this, it's, it's, it's what Adele alludes to when she goes to perform

that fear, that stage fright, that's what I'm experiencing on a weekly basis. Look at this how you're suffering for your art for us.

I'm suffering for all of you. I hope you would appreciate it. It is, and I just hope that it gets a little bit better, but I don't know. So far it's, but it's...

What's the fear, though? What's going to happen? Are you going to I don't, that's the thing. It has, it makes no sense. Because I know that I've put in the work. I can't prepare any more than I already am.

I mean, I don't know if you know this about me, but I'm a pro. I've heard this. And so not to toot my own horn. No, to get away. But I want everyone to know at home. Why do you have a horn literally next to you? You actually want to hit the, that's weird. That's a strange affect.

I am a pro. And so I know that I've put the work in. And I know that I'm ready. but yet I still feel sick I still shake and tremble and like can't get comfortable all day and then it's so funny I'll come out on stage

on the set and we'll do the first take of the first scene of course and then as soon as it's completed and you hear cut for the first time it goes away and then I feel better and then I you know

see I don't trust people generally that have no fear and just like are too comfortable with themselves. Overly confident. Yeah, I hate that. Yeah, that's true. Because I've been doing this a while too. And like, anytime I do a live show and I've done a ton, I feel like shit. Like, I want to be anywhere else.

I know. And yet I'm so excited by it. That's push and pull. Yeah. It's like the first day of school, you know? I mean, it loosens up. It gets a little easier, but it still stays the same. kind of it's a strange strange thing were you because you obviously between happy endings and this

it's clear if it wasn't clear the first few years of your career like you have a real knack for comedy and real like intuition and and instinct for it was that something that you discovered yourself or like I always knew I was in like a goofball I mean I was always kind of I liked telling stories you know and I liked acting out things you know little plays when I was a kid and I you know I just I do like comedy and I've always liked comedy but when I was younger and aspiring to be a professional actor I mean the epitome of like actress was Merrill street so I thought and look she can be very funny she's a very funny woman but her work was primarily dramatic stuff so I was like this was the career I looked up to this was the woman that was like

the be all end all of everything and so for me when I got into it it was all about doing work. Right. But then as I got, you know, but there was always this underlining, like, goofball side of me that hadn't been sort of unleashed yet. Yeah. And then after I had taken a bit of time off after 24, I was like, look, you know, I kind of I've dabbled a little bit with comedy, but not getting to actually be the comedic

actress that I thought I could potentially be. And then just sort of stuck to my guns and was like, I'm not going to go back to television unless it's something funny. And then that was happy endings. Is there something to it also that like, you know, if you're young and attractive and particularly a female, you don't necessarily get to be funny, which is a sad state of generally speaking. That's so shitty. Isn't it? Yeah, that's ridiculous.

I mean, did you find that, though? Yeah, of course. I was like, when I got on happy endings, I remember telling David Cass, I'm like, listen, I know you don't think I'm funny or you don't know yet. I'm going to promise you, I'm going to try. Right. But I'm like, just give me one joke a week. and I will do whatever I can with it and if it's not great

then cut it but I'm like I will be the straight guy on the funny show if you just give me I'm cool with one joke and it evolved and he let me be funny and they were writing lots of jokes for me I was getting lots and lots and lots of fun jokes and bits and things

character traits like rib eating and you know just kind of getting a little ditsier and didsier as we as a show evolved and it just anyway They were fantastic to me. So I knew I had a long way to go to prove myself, but, but, you know, well worth it.

Does the experience on Happy Endings, which obviously was so beloved and had such this, like, cult audience that, you know, it never, it obviously would still be going if, like, this core audience had exponentially increased and we all hoped it would. Does going through that, though, knowing, okay, A, I know what I'm doing. If I'm associated with the right people and I have the right material, it'll work. but also knowing that like this business is so weird like you can still have a great show and it just won't click sometimes politically politically it just sometimes gets lost in the shuffle does that give you some perspective like on this one where it's like i just do my work you're like ellen degenerous is producing it at least people are going to see it right you know of course yeah that was i mean that anytime you can work with like a woman like ellen who's so influential in television i mean in everything really i mean she's just she's ellen degenerative generous um she's like the funniest woman on the planet of course i mean i was just like this this is something i want to do i would love to be attached to this um and then for them to reach out to me and believe in me that i could you know play this character and that you know i was the one for them and it was just like wow wow like i can't even believe this is happening right now

you know come a long way in doing my copious amounts of research i saw Is she aware of this that you've done on a talk show? You've done the Ellen dance? We went to great lengths to myself and a lot of other people that are around Ellen. Went to great lengths to hide the footage of me. Just going on YouTube and deleting every. Yeah, or like not letting her look at a computer and Google her own name. Right.

Because like my ridiculous impression might come up. Because obviously I did an episode of Happy Endings where I portrayed her. Right. And then later on, like, Jimmy Kimmel came out and did it again. And, um, yeah, not realizing that she was going to eventually become my boss. Right. Um, so careful who you impersonate because they could be paying you shortly. Has she weighed in since? Uh, well, then this was, so this was the craziest thing. So, um, we went to great lengths to hide it from her. And then when we went in to finally promote the show at the TCA's, you know at the TCA's, you know at the TCA's,

We're on a big panel. Right. We're all sitting on chairs on a stage, and then, like, 200 people from the press just ask his questions. Sure. And sure enough, I had said to Liz Feldman right before I go, has Ellen seen the clip yet? And she goes, ah, no. I said, so what do I do if someone asks about it? And she was like, no one's going to ask.

No one's going to say anything. I'm like, no, I feel like there's a big possibility that someone might mention that. Right. Just throwing it out there. She's like, you know, she's like, well. Well, if she does, then just let Ellen answer. And I was like, okay. So then sure enough, we're sitting there.

And someone goes, Ellen, what did you think about Alicia's impersonation of you? And I'm sitting right next to her. And I was like, hi, hi. And she was like, what, what impersonation? I never saw one. I was like, oh, yeah, I didn't mention that. She was like, let's see it. so in front of like 200 press people I had to get up and dance like her in front of her

so I we should have just showed it to her from the get-go no this is the best possible scenario oh it was hell it was hell I was so embarrassed that I could feel my heartbeat in my face have you ever been like so embarrassed that like your pulse is like coming out of your nose not a good sign yeah it's not fun usually that's right before you have a stroke so right exactly like my teeth started hurting never a good sign Today's episode of Happy Set Confuse is sponsored by our friends at Pop Sugar. The Pop Sugar Must Have Box is a monthly subscription featuring the absolute best of products in fashion, beauty, home, fitness, food, and more. Each box is curated by Pop Sugar editor-in-chief Lisa Sugar and her amazing team.

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Born in Calgary. Okay. Lived in Vancouver for a little bit. And then also went to high school in Montreal and then left when I was 18 for L.A. Got it. So, okay. So you, for anybody that knows your career a bit, you've been acting forever at scenes. Yeah, since I was 11.

One of those little child gems. Did you go through the obnoxious period? Were you like an obnoxious child? No, I feel like I was always really cool. My parents are so great. And like, I think they just thought it was like a hobby. Right. Like, you know, like some kids are like in bed.

L.A. Sure. Some kids play soccer. Alicia was a little actor. Yours was hosting popular mechanics for kids. That was your hobby. Yeah. She's a little actor.

She has fun doing her little acting. She likes to pretend to be people. But the aforementioned popular mechanics for kids, that's not necessarily acting. That's like, that's a hosting gig. It's more of like what I do in a weird way. Yeah. Did that interest you? Was that just a job?

No. I mean, at that point in my life, I was just, I was auditioning for everything that I was right for. Anything that was in my age bracket. I just wanted to work, work, work. And then this show came up that, you know, had the chance to, you know, travel the world and do all these really cool things. But the catch was that I was going to be playing myself. Right.

So, listen, I think it was a perfect time for me because I didn't have to focus on necessarily acting as anyone else. But I got to really understand what it was like to film a show, to travel, to, like, you know, be around a crew, understand what, like, research was. and I just learned so much about the mechanics of it all. Yeah. You know, like... Which is important to get out of the way, and then you can kind of lose it. Right, and then you can lose it, and then it becomes a part of you. Right.

And then the camera and all the questions and all the curiosities are then a part of the process. And anyway, it was just a huge learning experience. Jay Bereschel and I did it together, which is crazy because he also was, you know, doing really well. So were you, I mean, were you recognizable in Canada? Yeah, yeah. That's got to be weird. It was crazy. I mean, I think the first time I ever got noticed, like really noticed was at, I went to a, I think it was like my second year high school or something.

And the show had just started airing. And I did some other little things too. And I was at the movie theaters. And this group of kids were like, oh, my God. And then my group of friends were like, dude, you're famous. And I was like, is that what that means? I don't even know what that means. It was just weird.

Yeah. Crazy. And so you moved to, jumping ahead a little bit, you moved to L.A. I moved to L.A. when I was 18, right after high school. And what was the goal? What's the, is it get on a series? Not to go to college. Just avoiding actual college.

I get it. I was like, hell no. Smart lady. Was not meant for that. No? Why not? Maybe now. I could see myself doing school now, like James Franco.

Six PhDs in your spare time. Yeah, like, yeah. I feel like I could do that now No, when I was 18 I was like There's no way I'm going to be able to sit through Classes And anyway, I had sort of applied But then, well, I had to apply

Otherwise my parents wouldn't let me come to L.A. And then so I applied, I got accepted But then I was like, listen, I'm going to go to L.A. for six months. If I don't get anything I'll come back, I'll go to school. Ha-ha. He-he-he. And then And so I took off and all the money that I had made as a child actor went into the Oakwood apartments.

Infamous. And, yeah, just roughed it for six months, didn't know anyone. Eight really crappy TV dinners because I didn't know how to cook. Wash my clothes in the bathtub because I didn't know how to work a washing washer. My parents did a real good job. Yeah, clearly you have no skills what's over to take care of yourself. My parents did everything, as you can see. I didn't know how to make my own bed.

Did you brush your own teeth? Barely Mom back and forth Once a week Yeah So I was like really rough in it And then Which was fine

Which was great I mean some people go to L.A. and it takes years But I was so panicked about going to school So I got to my last I'm sure you've heard this story I've told it a million gazillion times But my last week there At the end of this like six month stint

I ended up booking 24 and never went home. So I called my parents and I was like, see it later, suckers. I hope that's actually why the conversation went. Yeah, they were like, so. That's really aggressive. How's college?

I went, suckers. Suck it. I'm staying in L.A. Suckers. That's an affectionate thing. Yeah. I'm like, me and James Franco are taking over the world, suckers. She's like, who's James Franco?

Undeclared, deal with it. Anyway. 24. Obviously did well for everybody. including yourself. Yeah. Clearly. Slightly.

Never went home. Woohoo. Suckers. Suckers. Peace out. Suckers. Please don't do this to your parents because I feel like this is not a good,

this isn't nice. They love my podcast, so they're going to really resent you for this. Oh, man. Damn it. So, I mean, that's such a big, I mean, you were on the show, what, three or four years,

probably something like that. Yeah. Came back a couple times. That kind of a thing. It occurred, yeah, a couple times. It's hard to, like, encapsulate that. obviously in a sound bite because that's a huge like what was it like yeah i'm not even going to ask you that thing but like part of me feels like you you got a raw end of the deal in that you had

to be like the civilian in that show like you didn't get to be the cool person i wasn't kicking ass you didn't get to that's like that's what it was a reactive it was a very reactive character it wasn't proactive was that frustrating or is it just all i'm on a hit show this is great yeah i was I never once thought, man, this is crappy. Like, I was like, I'm on 24. I would go, we would go to these award shows, and people would be like, oh, my God, I love. Like, I know what, like, the cast of, like, Downton Abbey's feeling. You know what I mean?

Like, I understand where that, what that's like. To be the show. To be the show, the darling, the critical darling that you just, but it's, it never lasts forever. And it was such a great experience. And listen, Howard Gordon, who is the creator of Homeland, who was also on 24 with us. We had a great conversation about this. But it's very, looking back, and even they're dealing with it on Homeland,

it's very difficult to write for a child on an adult show. And to have them make sense in the storylines and to make it all work, it had to be entertaining. Otherwise, there was no point for her to be there. And you can't kill off. daughter you can't kill a kid right so it was like i was evolving and growing and the character yeah the stories got a little wacky and but look i think tv guide named me at the time they gave me this like title of like the character everyone most loves to hate and i was like

was that a good day when you heard that or you're like i was like i'll take it yeah yeah i'm like at least i'm provoking an emotion exactly exactly not everyone's going to like every brand of music But, you know, I'm shaking things up a little. You know, shaking it up. If only the listeners could see your movements when you say. Shaking it up. I'm sure they can visualize. Yeah, I'm shimmying.

As dorky as it sounds, it's even dorkier in the best possible way. Pretty bad. So off of that, and like, so the film work starts to really kick into a gear. And you're in this, and I remember this. Like, you're in the spade of movies, some of which are really good, obviously old school. Yeah. Who knew? turned into like love actually of course i want to get into girl next door because that is a genuine

awesome movie right um the at the same time you're i don't know if you're if you feel at the time you're kind of you're kind of like yeah yeah yeah and this was at a time when like maxim magazine was like i mean there were so many people buying that i mean it was such a trend and such a thing of the moment that you you know the studios were like you you have to do it you know feel like that you were being coerced in situations that you weren't necessarily. It's not like... Sure. I mean...

Absolutely. I'd be lying if I said not. I mean, it's like someone saying, uh, we want you to go on Jimmy Fallon and, uh, and you're like, no, I'm scared. They're like, do you understand how huge that? Like, it just was like, and maybe that's a bad example. I mean, it was because everyone wants to be on Jimmy. So that's, that's not the case.

But at the time, you're right. People are forgetting that at the time, this. was a legitimate like way to it was the thing of the moment i mean this was what you got the cover of that magazine and you were guaranteed 40 million people were going to see who you were yeah i mean it was it was a huge get it was crazy um luckily like i look back and i'm like you know they weren't terrible i'm not like i don't hate it i just but i just thought you know looking back maybe if i would have foreseen the future of what i would have felt like at 33 now I'd be like, I don't think my young, 20-year-old self needed to do it.

Sure. But that's a hard thing in hindsight. That's like old lady telling young lady, don't worry, mama, girl. You're going to be fine. You don't have to wear a bikini baby girl. And at the same time, you're going to have a great career. You're very wise and very smart in that, like, for instance, I've heard you talk about this, like, girl next door, which I know they wanted and probably pushed you. Oh, to be naked, yeah.

There's no, no, no. There's no nudity in that way. No, no, no. And the movie is an awesome movie. It doesn't need it. Yeah. Well, thank you. And Luke Greenfield, I give him a lot of credit because when we met first and we were in the process of, you know, that movie kind of coming about and happening, I said to him, like, listen, you're probably going to cast like Shannon Elizabeth or, you know, Katie Holmes.

At the time, these were like big girls. I was not at that level. Right. I was, you know, the girl in 24. And so I was like, listen, I know you're going to probably end up with someone else. but, like, I really want to fight for this. And I said, but the crazy thing is that, like, I won't do any nudity. And not because I, you know, I'm like, oh, anti-nudity.

But I was like, I remember weird science and how, like, Kelly LeBrog never got naked. And she became sort of every guy's own personal fantasy because it was never shown the truth of who she was. sure so that lent itself for her to become this like larger than life gorgeous person that was like every man's individual fantasy right and I said you have the capability and I think the script is good enough for to lend itself to that it doesn't have to be american pie and he was like yeah I get that so anyway we went on that journey together and it was just so awesome and look that movie as much as I'm associated with that film that was the character that I had to overcome the most uncomfortable feelings of, you know, here I was 20 years old, barely wearing anything, playing a porn star. I mean, I really had to step out of my comfort zone and really try to make that work and make that believable and have the confidence to do it. It was, it was tough, tough stuff. Talk to me a little bit about, like, in the wake of that and the wake of some of these big movies, were you always, are you good auditioner? Did you enjoy going in for these kind of?

I hate auditioning. You really? Yeah, I don't love it. I mean, but I mean, I do. But no, I mean, it's not a fun process. It's like, do you like job interviews? Do you like rejection? Do you like nine out of ten rejections?

You want to go on a job interview every week? Do you want to be judged? You want to be judged on your appearance? You know, it's just, it's not a great process. No, of course not. But look, it's inevitable. It's got to happen, so. Do you have a favorite?

You must have gone in for some of these, like, crazy big blockbuster superhero what's your favorite what's your favorite memory of one of those kind of things oh man let me think yeah i've been sadly i've been on a lot of them you don't see me out there do you no it's all worked out for everybody don't worry listen i'm not a competitive person thank god i mean i don't think you can be an actor and be competitive you just can't i mean unless you're like super like unless you're tom cruise and you're like ha ha screw everybody right um but like you're ultimately going to go in on things and other people are going to get them. But I always felt like

everything worked out the way it was supposed to for me. I got all the parts that I was meant to get and I think friends of mine have gotten parts where you're like, oh yeah. Ila Fisher actually said to me one time, she was like, I auditioned for the girl next door. She goes, but you were so, it was for

you know, and that is that sums it up, you know, and her and wedding crashers. I mean, no one else could do that. She did that you know and she was knocked it out of the park i mean so yeah do you do you look to i mean obviously the hope is that this show lasts for a few seasons you get into a groove yeah the cast grows as close as happy endings did etc right do you is film something still that's like i mean how do you prioritize is it just simply like do you like the lifestyle of television do you yeah i

mean i you know now that i'm married it's tricky because i juggle my family life with work. My husband is very busy with his job as well. So we make sure to take the summers off so that we have that time together that's solid and we're not running around everywhere. So unfortunately, that doesn't really lend. A lot of the films shoot in the summer. So I've been taking some time off the last, you know, eight years we've been together

in the summer, so it's been tricky. But then that's why I've been really enjoying television, because during the work season. It's great because I get to work and travel back and forth. And so, I don't know, TV's just been great right now. And it gives me a chance to do what I want to do and still be an actor and still have my life. And, you know, I think if a movie came along, I wouldn't be like, no, I don't do those anymore. Hopefully in that voice again.

Yeah, I'm like, I only want a soap opera next. On the Francopath. Mm-hmm. Did you approach James with this? Because... Because this is how I talk when I talk about suburbos. Okay? This is what I want.

In our remaining few minutes, I have a sketchy weird Indiana Jones Fidora filled with random questions. I was wondering if that was for me or... That's what I wear outside of the office. Yeah, I was like, you stuff a Farrell hat and you with little paper. Stop judging me, Alicia! Okay, what is this? They're just a couple random things.

You can pick anything you want in here. A couple of few. We'll see how it goes. They're ratty. Let's see if they can hear it. Good, thank you. You could have been a star back in the, like, radio days. Yes.

She's building the anticipation. I like it. Ladies and gentlemen. Okay. I can't even, I can't, I can't, I can't, get what he got. My drink of choice, does that mean, like, a cocktail drink, or, yeah. No, let's go there. We're not talking about, I like milk.

I like strawberry, you who. disgusting my drink of choice you know what I've been loving the Moscow meal lately which is I love ginger beer a lot but I'm like

I like a classic you know Belvedere soda lime you're classy that way I'm classy that way a nice straight martini but the Moscow mule is nice the copper mug thing

That's what makes it special, right? Yeah. You don't want it in just a normal glass. Yeah, no. I want it in a real copper mug. Let's go. Okay. Oh, we're going to keep her going.

I thought it was one question only. I wish I were better at podcast. What he's talking about? You're a pro. Okay. When was the last time I cried? Oh, my God. Yesterday on the plane.

Okay, tell me. I watched Mike. Okay. Did you see the Mike? Tyson, Spike Lee, Broadway on HBO. Oh, yes, I did. I did. Mike Tyson, Iron Mike brought you to tears?

Okay. I mean, he goes through a lot. There's a lot of ups and downs in that. He's had the craziest life, literally. He's had the most insane life. And no, I did not cry when he started talking about Brad Pitt, but I did cry when he started talking about his mom and how she, did you see that part where she was buried and not properly?

And then he, like, exhumed her body. and gave her like the fanciest casket and gave her this really extravagant, just wanted to honor her and I was just, I was in tears. Oh my God. My memory of Mike Tyson on a personal net was I interviewed him once for another doc he did.

There was this movie called Tyson was really good. Yeah, that one was, oh my God, and he cries in that. Yes. Which makes me cry. So this is when he was like, I love him.

When he was huge and I was interviewing him like physically big. He's lost a lot of weight. Oh yeah, when he was doing his cocaine days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And during the interview... He talks about that in the play.

He's like, I was so fat. He goes, you think if you were doing that much Coke, you would be thin, but you get so fat. I'm like, he's so candid. I love this man. He's your soulmate. He's my soulmate. I know.

I told someone earlier, I was like, I want him to adopt me. So anyway, during this interview I'm doing with him, it's in a hotel room, and he cracks open one of those giant jars of gummy bears and is just like popping them in. That is disgusting. Like the first 10 minutes in the interview, he has gummy bears just, like, pouring out of his mouth. Do you still love Iron Lake? Yeah, I'm not going to, no, I still do love him. But I want to know when jelly, I mean, a gummy bear started being served in glass jars.

Again, that way they are entitled to, like, charge you $15 because it's in a glass jar. Oh, never, I've never, I've only seen them in, like, bags. No. And I don't like gummy bears. They make my stomach hurt. Yeah. Anyway, but. Finish strong.

This is it. This is it? Oh, my God. There's so many. I thought it says favorite candy bar But I thought it was going to say favorite candy And I'm like, we know it's not gummy bars You lost the endorsement deal right now

Favorite candy bar I'm going to go with a Canadian classic Scorebar Oh SK with the K And that's toffee right There's a very hard Chocolate layer around it Simple straight to the point

Deliciousness And the capacity to break a tooth at any moment. Hey, you take a risk. It's worth it, though. Let me tell you. The show, as if we didn't plug it enough. It's one big happy. Congratulations on it, Alicia.

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