Happy Sad Confused - Emily Blunt

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

Emily Blunt can do it all! Comedy. Drama. Action. And now a Christopher Nolan film can be added to the impressive resume with OPPENHEIMER. The DEVIL WEARS PRADA and SICARIO star join Josh for her first appearance on the podcast to talk about it all! To watch episodes of Happy Sad Confused, subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Josh's youtube channel here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Check out the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy Sad Confused patreon here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes of GAME NIGHT, video versions of the podcast, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It will be those experiences that will keep me up at night where I don't sleep during a film, but I slept well on Oppenheimer. Maybe it was just because you feel so safe with Chris, you know, and you, You don't have any questions or queries working with him. You know, his instincts are so, are so right. Like, his notes are so good. I've never had notes like that in my life. They're so transporting.

Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Today on Happy, Say, I'm Josh Horowitz, and it only took us about 10 years on the podcast. They get one of my favorites on. Yes. She loves murdering Tom. cruise. She loves singing and dancing with Parasol. She loves jungle cruises. And most importantly,

Emily Blunt loves being an awesome movie. Like, often, thank you. Yeah, that was good. That was awesome. That was awesome. It's good to see you. You too. Um, I can't believe you've done every kind of manifestation of conversation. Yes, what, what the heck? Like, have I just said no to your body? I'm like, why? Don't pretend like you haven't. That I haven't been like, no, no. No. I'm very excited to chat with you at length today. Thank you. This movie, Sternberg-Warnsit.

I mean, we could have spent 45 minutes talking about a fun thing, like Jungle Cruise. But no, you wanted Oppenheimer. I wanted Oppenheimer. Don't tell Dwayne Johnson, but I did. I would have preferred to talk to you about this. Are there, what is the ratio of LOLs on the set of Oppenheimer? I mean, what's the blooper reel like on Oppenheimer? You know, I think people would imagine it was terribly intense, and we all,

walked around saying we are making an important movie with a capital I but it didn't feel like that it felt very warm and fun and joyful and even though there's the inevitable intimidation factor of working with

Chris Nolan and the awareness that you're going to have to tighten the screws on yourself and every single crew member and cast member feels that you know I don't know how he does it he creates this rather casual attitude towards it and And he'll sort of go, well, you know, you'll talk about the scene a bit, even if it's a big boy, you know, it's going to be a monster scene.

And then I'll go, right, okay, happy, yeah, ready, ready to shoot one? Okay, yeah, let's go. It was just everything is calm, no chaos. So there were plenty of lulls on set. I've talked to several actors I've worked with him over the years, and they concur with you in that he does seem to have that big picture. He has the command of the largest scale possible. And yet, from my understanding, it actually does feel pretty intimate. It does.

It's not a huge imprint of crew once you're actually in the scene. True, true. It just, it feels really intimate. It feels warm. And even though we're shooting with these massive cameras, they sort of cease to exist somehow. And Chris himself is a very big guy. He's tall. He's an imposing figure.

He'll stand right by the camera and watch you. But I didn't notice him anymore. And so it just, I don't. I don't know he's just, I think maybe because the set is so focused. Right. I get, I'm curious, like, you know, as you progress through the career and you work with different kinds of filmmakers, do you become more picky about the kind of environment you want,

or more open to different kinds of experiences? I always feel open to different kinds of experiences. I become more picky about the directors that I want to work with because I think it's just the most freeing, exciting thing when you collaborate with someone who sees all of you and you see all of them and it's when an experience can transcend what the script was

whereas when you work with directors who can be tricky or controlling or there's an ego or a different agenda it does get in the way of things there's an override button I feel I have to hit when I work with... Yeah, yeah. It's just different sort of shield

you have to adopt and it's a different sort of shield you have to adopt and it's it's um It will be those experiences that will keep me up at night where I don't sleep during a film, but I slept well on Oppenheimer. Maybe it was just because you feel so safe with Chris, you know, and you don't have any questions or queries working with him. You know, his instincts are so right.

Like his notes are so good. I've never had notes like that in my life. They're so transporting. Is there an example? I can think of none. No funny anecdotes to give you. question um you've worked with deneval nov yeah a lot of people sometimes kind of put them in the same yeah for sure do you see them are there is there is that an analogy for you in any way the way they

i feel like dene and rob marshall and chris nonland they they all have similar traits to me which is just like they are incredibly prepared and meticulous in their preparation uncompromising in that side of things and they demand and command the best of you you know Denise has this wonderful, and we all thought on Sakaria, with me and Josh and Benicia, we were like, oh my God, it's his stick, I think,

where he comes in, he's like, I don't know, I don't know about this scene, Madame, I haven't done enough coffee, oh my God, you know. And it's like this bit he does, and I think he really knows everything. I think he sees the full spectrum of everything.

I think it's just schick to make you go, oh, see, I don't have to be scared, you know. And then you see that fully realize with a lot of you're like, This guy's a master. Master. And I think Rob Marshall has the dancer in him where it is just, you drill it until it is perfect.

There is like a perfectionist to him in so many ways. And yet he, both he and Chris and Deney all share this quality, which is that they're so curious about what the actors are going to do. And they lean into your choices and they're like, what else? What else? Show me, show me, what else? And it just feels so exciting because you're trusted by them. Sicario comes up a lot and justifiably so in career.

I mean, it's one of my all-time favorites. And I know for you personally, it is one you consider up in that upper echel. Sure, yeah. So is that, you talked about working with Denise, is it mostly about the experience of making it, seeing, of getting that kind of role to play, of seeing the finished product? Why does that one stand apart for you as one of the top ones for you? I mean, I feel it was, I don't know if during, it i saw the full scope of what he was doing i think when i saw it and was so gripped by the throat

by it and it was um i didn't realize how much you would feel like her right as an audience member i didn't realize that she would bring you into it in the way that she does and she is as in the dark as the audience are, it is an incoherent world where someone is way over their head and the panic that instills in audiences watching it was so cool and how taught and muscular the whole thing

felt when you watched it and how stunning it, because of Roger Deacons was just beautiful to look at, groundbreakingly so, and so I do see why that one resonates with people but I'm always sort of, I felt that with

Oppenheimer. I was absolutely staggered by it when I saw it. I felt like my bones were going to break. I just didn't. I had no idea it would move as propulsively and viscerally as it did. It was just stunning. Yeah, I was just saying to something. I saw it. I've actually seen him twice. Have you? Yeah, yeah. So I've done the podcast actually with Christopher and Killian. Oh, you did good. And it is, it's over three hours. You can't deny that. But it is so mesmerizing. I know. His way with, I don't know, it rides a wave. Like you're like riding it up and down throughout and it's so propulsive and it is that marriage of sound design and music and performance that is just like yeah it's why i love going to the movies me too me too no it does it's a film that

just wraps its powerful arms around you and pulls you right into the screen and you feel inside of it and whether you want to be or not right you know kitty is a delicious character i would think yeah there aren't many um women i know from that era that rode horses and carried a flask that's cool she loved a drink she loved a drink the flask back is that right we a cheeky little flask just nipped into your suit pocket come on beverage be in the glass tequila nice course is it wait is it do you go cluny or do you go terramana like i mean listen i've recently become more into terramana george i love you i'm just saying i get free taramana like if cluny wants to send me some free

tequila, then we could talk. Now that I think about it, why did they call it Casamigos and Tenamona? Just call it Clooney and Rock. Isn't that just an easier shortcut? Yeah, probably. Right? Yeah. Where were we talking about? Oh, Kitty. Yes. So is that, okay, so again, this is, another thing I love about this movie.

Look, there's a guy in the poster. He's amazing. Killian holds this salt together, and it's fantastic to see him utilized in this way. But it is a true ensemble. It reminds me, I said this to Christopher of, like, when I was growing up when I saw, like, JFK, and every single small character had a lived-in embodiment by a great actor.

And that, for me, it felt like I could watch a movie about any number of these characters. Sure. Did that jump off the page that, like, it's a supporting character, but you do see a fully realized. Yeah. I mean, she was, there was a ferocity to that character that was there and visceral and exciting. But to me, it speaks to the kind of delicacy and the, the exquisite writing that Chris Nolan does, which people often overlook because he's such a phenomenal director.

It's like, you should never forget what an incredible screenwriter he is as well. And she was so fiery. She was so complicated, riddled with demons herself. And I think it's so cool to play someone who's sort of at war with herself, really. And a nonconformist for the 1950s. housewife ideal you know and I would say I mean again this is all still kind of seeping in after seeing it a couple times but like you know she's relatable in some ways especially towards the end of the film because she is kind of speaking up where like you as an audience

member want to defend this man that well you're just desperate for someone to fight for him and he's just been eviscerate and just lacerated by everybody and he's taking it in this passive way which must have just infuriated her because she wanted to to fight so much. And it's terribly exciting when she's able to bring that brilliant brain of hers back to life, even though she's become so volatile

and unpredictable, and fight for him at the end, and you sort of need someone like her to come along and not tow the line, you know? Does that scene jump out on the page? Because that, again, that scene is one of my favorites in the film. It is so powerful. Thank you. And really emotional

to watch. Again, I don't want to ruin for the audience. But she, yes, a meeting kind of like coming to the defense of her husband. Yeah, and I think, I think, you know, yes, when I read it, you know, because the scene was one of those scenes that you know is your requirement is to make it impactful. And it was just how it was written. It was, and also the idea that Chris had sort of set her up to supposedly fail in how she's just sort of not walking straight going in there and you're like oh my god

she's going to choke it's going to be a nightmare and a true testament to their marriage which as tumultuous as it was it was successful and she did worship him you know and i remember doing that scene with tony goldwin who was just the best and he said to me afterwards he goes it was so jarring it was like looking at my mother who was one of those women who went to to waste at the ironing board. And it was startling to see it, you know. And I think I had so much empathy for her. Because yes, she's terrible mother,

and she's not a natural nurturer. And she's not terribly nice. And she's a total party animal. And but I really recognize that there were a lot of women at the time that didn't want to just be defined by being a mother or being someone's wife. And the deterioration of the way her is really in support of fostering him you know and I just saw her as more

than when Chris did you know obviously and how he wrote it more than a sort of archetypal lady with Beth's sort of wife character scale 1 to 10 how well do you understand quantum minus 350 no I do not is that that's not a requirement necessarily of the job generally speaking when you're I feel like we all can black it, you know, I think that that's really your job sometimes. It's just to understand what's ultimately going to be out there on the screen. Say forcefully. Yes, exactly. Exactly. I'm like, I'm exploring the emotionality of the marriage. I know how to do that, but I don't know shit about quantum physics.

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Where do you come down on the movie star versus actor kind of? It's not a debate, but this is a discussion I've had with us. What do you think? Well, it's okay. So an actor who I, love, and I would argue potentially, he's a movie star, Mr. Matt Smith brought this up to me. He plays a game called movie star or actor. He does? Yeah, where you bring up a human being and you say, is that a movie star or is that an actor? But is one sort of, is an actor seen as

better than the movie star. This is part and parcel. I love them both, and I think some definitely tow that line. Like, for instance, like Kille Murphy, this is a movie star performance. He's at the center of a giant summer Christopher Nolan movie. But I think generally speaking, again, not a slight of all. Is he considered first and foremost an actor, not a movie star? I think he would consider himself an actor as well. I think most people would want to consider

themselves an actor first and foremost. Don't you think you're both out? No, gross, I don't. No, gross, I don't... So you assign, you don't like the movie star. Well, because I just think it, to me, a movie star sounds sort of too separate of what we kind of started out doing and why we love it and why I love it.

And I guess you could, Okay, so for example, I remember one of the first actors who made such an impact on me growing up, and it was Julia Roberts, who is, you know, was defined as a movie star, but you can't forget her incalculable abilities as an actor. And how incredible she was in Pretty Woman, that the reason she's a movie star is because she kidnaps you and pulls you in to this movie because of her phenomenal talents and her charm and her charisma. and like, so I guess I see the two as blending sometimes, you know,

when someone's got that wattage to them, it's like you can't rip your eyes off them. Maybe that's what the movie star thing is, but it's, I see it often as like a blend, you know. And I think it also comes to the time, right? It's like a lot of folks, like Julie Roberts is a good example, because like so much of the early conversation is about the charisma, the raw charisma and beauty, et cetera, and then with opportunity to show different shades of yourself. sure okay oh she's she can be erin rockevich and she can exactly exactly but i think killion would be sort of horrified to be called the movie star but that's him i mean there's like

robert downy was saying earlier there's like british reserve and then there's irish like horror at anyone complimenting you know yeah yeah i respect it definitely um three points of similarity between killian murphy and jane the rock johnson okay Charisma. Yes. They both love a drink. Great cheekbones. Yes.

Mesmerizing eyes you can get lost in. Great set of peepers on them. Would you rather see Killian in a Fast and Furious movie, or Dwayne in Oppenheimer? I want to see Dwayne Johnson rip the face off something in Oppenheimer. I'm telling you. I've told him. you're going to win an Oscar one day.

I know it. I agree. I want him the hands of one of the greats. He's going to be, and I'm excited, and I think that there's so much to mind there, you know. Because I've worked with a lot of actors who, you know, a lot of whom are brilliant and deemed brilliant, and, and I've never met, like, I see DJ in, like,

that same realm of, like, he, I just worked with Ryan Gosling, who's a brilliant actor, They both listen so intently. And that's the sign of a great actor as well. Like, they're curious, they're looking at you in the scene and, like, waiting to react. And there's more to being an actor than just revealing the portrait of a person.

You know what I mean? There's so much more to it than just making it a self-performative scene. It's just so, or a self-serving scene. Like, they're both great listeners, you know. And I remember being struck by that when I met DJ. I started working with him, you know. It's probably easy to typecast and put him in a box, but I guess I just didn't have that experience.

Well, I would expect someone, like, at that level to kind of cocoon themselves off from the world and not be present. You're right. Like, with everyone, that's why he's the most... Yeah, that's why... Exactly. Exactly, yeah.

All right, since we have a lot of time, let's go back, let's talk about... Enough about Dwain Johnson. Let's talk about little, Dwayne Johnson. Let's talk about Little Emily. Okay. Emily lost in her own imagination yes a little shorter yes very much so especially without the heels yes yes what I mean how would you characterize you as a young

like 10 you're 10 12 years old show you like as a kid will your parents say what you were like um more internal than I think I am now when you're saying 10 or 12 It was when I had a really severe stutter, which was, it impacted what I revealed to the world for sure because I was, it was so disabling, you know, to, it was such a misrepresentation of who I really was, I think. So it was a particularly hard time that age because it was like I had this sort of imposter

living in my body that I couldn't override. And it was tough. It was a tough time. And then it did sort of recede over the years. It got better and better. Was it connected to anxiety? No, because a stutter is a biological, hereditary, neurological problem. And it's something I'll always have.

And I think I was at my event that I host every year to raise money for stuttering therapy. And I realize, speaking to other stutters, we all sort of feel the same, that I don't think I even know how much. verbal gymnastics i do as i talk to you maybe i do it all the time and i don't realize how often i'm substituting other words that might be easier to flow or say or i'm not sure i'm not sure how much i override hesitations that i'm not even aware of you just realize how fast the brain works you know um but i think i was a more internal child i think i read i watched people a lot I've always been fascinated in the human experience.

I've always had great empathy for people. I love the shadows of people's lives. I love playing them. So I wasn't like wanting to be an actress because at the time I was like, well, I have to talk, so how am I going to do that? Right, that felt like a... So it just was so far-fetched an idea,

sort of an absurd thought. And then, yeah. When it started to gain momentum and the passion kind of manifested, that must have also brought you self-confidence. and like a place like yeah this feels right right that's what any of us are striving for whatever pursuit we're looking for is is the fuel of comfort yeah and like what's your place in the world and like how do you want to be who do you

want to be and I think I I would get cast in school plays but I was probably a bit baffled still I was like oh that's interesting I wasn't like this is my moment like I don't remember that burning ambition or desire for it and I'm sure I just kind of hate this story it did feel like I sort of stumbled into it I'm so grateful I did because I just adore it I'm completely madly in love with it and can't imagine doing anything else but yeah it was just a slow it wasn't meteoric or anything you know well I mean and it is funny to kind of see kind of the quote-unquote big breaks as it were because like you know devil war's product obviously changed sure yeah yeah

and what i'm thinking back to that what's funny for that for me about that is look obviously yes it has merrill in it as am too she and anne and so there is a pedigree but like most of those movies aren't great let's be like most movies aren't great yeah so like you could have been in a shitty rom-com i could have been in a really shitty one i audition for a lot of them you know so it must i don't know I have no point except to say it is a marriage of ambition and talent and dumb luck. Completely. And I think I remember, like, we would be howling with laughter on that set. We thought we were hilarious.

I mean, we were always. Guys, we're crushing it. So the bloopers from that movie are my favorites. I mean, we were just endless fun on that set, mainly down to the incredible David Frankel and, like, what he created for everybody in the environment. but I remember when that movie came out and I had no idea about an opening week and I hadn't even heard that term

and I remember my agent Chris being like Em, it made this on the opening weekend I was like, is that good? Like is that good? You know? So you're not. And then it had this culty following and it's still the movie that's quoted to me.

I've had two people talk to me about it today, about the Cuba cheese. When you're out of the wild with John, I'm in the wild. In the wild. Not really a wild. Like in the world, outside. Yeah.

When you've exited to come down. The gates go down the most. Yeah, and I start to get a little bit fearful. Yeah, exactly. More office quotes thrown at you guys, or more Devil We're's product from me? Office quotes. I mean, it's a religion. Yeah.

And it became even more religion during COVID. I think the office was like on as background comfort and therapy. and everyone's homes, it brought people together. And so we emerged outside of COVID. And I was like, can you wear two baseball hats? Like, how are we going to get around? You know, I was like, this is, can you wear one on your face? You know, we can't go anywhere.

What level of fan is appropriate for the spouse of the star of the office to be? Like, there's a tipping point. I want to be a supporter and a fan, but you don't want to be. Like a super fan, like fanatical. No, I'm a massive fan of that show. Hugely, yeah, gone too far. It's your favorite episode of your favorite? Don't ask me that.

I don't know the names of them. That's okay. You know, he's barely watched any of them after season five. I feel like he's barely seen any of them. He doesn't really watch Jack Ryan, doesn't want to watch any of it. And it's not that precious thing I can't watch myself. I think he's like, he's like, he's doing it. I did it, yeah.

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No, that's not true. Ryan Gosling? Gossing wants to, though. Have you talked to Gossi? No, he doesn't. I swear to God. No, he doesn't. I asked him about it.

He doesn't. Who does he want to play? He wants to play. He told me, I spoke him for Graham. man last year and he's like ghost rider he's like a big old geek he's such a dog is he i'm gonna really have beef with him about that i was like me and you right no i thought we were like wearing it as a badge of honor he was playing a cool with he was trying to impress you what about emma stone emma stone has not played a superhero see so i look as far back as we've

been talking i have been like bestering you like many about like you're gonna play captain marvel Oh, that's my voice when I ask this question. Oh, it's a great voice. That's your nerdy voice. That's my actual voice. Here's a therapy. I've gotten this. This is your new voice, yeah.

So, okay, over the years, let's see. There's been talk of Captain Marble. Yep. Peggy Carter. Sue Storm. Black Widow is real. I mean, you were cast as Black Widow. Kind of, sort of.

Come on, the best girl got it. I'm not saying if she didn't. She was amazing, but circumstances, Gullbert travels. Which was such a great film. It was a great junket. Oh, that was a fun junket, yeah. So were any of the other ones remotely real besides Black Widow?

Rumors, talk, queries, that kind of thing. Would she be interested, hypothetically? But no way. You never did the Kevin Feige meet. No. Not on any of those ones, no. Okay. Yeah.

I feel so on the spot. I feel like heart palpitations right now. Did you watch John play Mr. Fantastic finally? Yes. You saw the movie. I saw his bit. Okay. I was like, okay.

Oh, there you are. Yeah. What was the name of the movie that he was in? Was it Dr. Strange? Oh, yeah. Okay. It was Dr. Strange, right? Don't.

You can't. I'm the worst person to be asked about this stuff. I don't know anything. I don't know anything. I'm not. what you are yes but I can recognize that it is a religion and I don't want to you know does it feel like there's closure in the house does he feel good because there's so much thought for years does he feel like like he like I think he was thought it was fun I

mean it was fun for him to pop in and do that yeah but for you I mean it is an amazing thing that yes okay it's you Leo Emma and Gosling have decided to the poor although Gosling's now on the fence which yeah Gosling is gonna wear a cave at some what a turncoat is you know I always knew that about him but I mean that is a nice place to be where you don't have to be reliant on clinical franchises yes right wait Tom Cruise doesn't do so bear as he you're right okay oh god I'm gonna start I know there's there's more there's more than you think there's more of us people than you think we don't speak up enough but I guess

my question is do you feel any of that kind of pressure to have like I got a franchise going here I'm gonna return to this character no because I don't like to take things on thinking they could be a franchise. I mean, I don't tend to do that. And I don't have any strategy to it. I just don't. I don't know why. I love what I love.

And I hope for the best every time. I mean, it's sort of the leap into the great unknown with every film you take on. I can see when I read a script. Some things are inevitably more commercially viable than others. It will not be the reason for me doing it, you know? Edge of tomorrow. Yes.

Which never is going to be a conversation we don't have because... It's the best. The best. The best. Is the memories of the exo... Exo suit, thank you. Memories of exosuit, like, pregnancy, like you forget how bad it was? No, I don't forget.

My back is still... still tweaks out on me sometimes. You know, I'll like turn funny in the car and I'll just like, Tom Cruise. Crude? Crude? Should we stop? though, should I stop asking you about a sequel? I don't want to...

No, because, I mean, I wish there could be one. Have you ever read a script? Yeah. You have? Have I ever read a script? Yes, yes. Yes, we did. Okay.

There was one that Doug kind of slithered over to me. But, I mean, I would love to make it a reality, but I just don't know when or how, and how many Mission Impossibles does he need. I know. Come on. There's another cliff to jump off of. Come back to the side where you can be a, you know...

Wasn't he a brilliant as the cat? As the cowardly hero, oh, incredible. I know, I couldn't bear it. I adored him. He was the best. So you were not the impediment. You're ready. I'm so ready.

I'm not the impediment, I promise. Okay. Promise. Would you trust Doug Wyman to send you into space? Because they're supposedly going to do a movie where he goes into space. Oh, yeah. I love Doug Lyman, but he's a madman.

He's a madman. He once said, hey, I'm flying to Martha's Vineyard in my plane this weekend. Maybe we could discuss The Edge of Tomorrow 2 on the plane. And I was like, never. Wait, and he's gonna be flying? He was like, never.

While he's flying? Yes. Yeah, no, no, no. No, it's a, it's a no. I think, I wonder who's more scared to go to space, Tom or Doug. I wonder who's. Tom would never, he has no fear.

He's missing the chip. This is a really sore point for me. Okay. Oh, God. The coconut cake has become an obsession. Have you never got it? I've hosted, I hosted, The Mission Impossible premiere this year.

I hosted the Top Gun premiere last year. I've interviewed Tom many times. We've had lots of LOLs. Have you told him? No, because he don't want to be the guys like, hey, can I be on the coconut cake? He would prefer... Tom likes people to be direct.

I guess I'm not that guy. You've got to speak your mind. You can't put in a good word? You can't... I mean, can you imagine? Would you be so thrilled if you got a coconut cake this year? Honestly, like, make me cry.

It is such a good cake. That's not when I was... It is such a cake. How many people do you speak to you that get the cake? And you like... So many. I'm talking to Haley-at-Well tomorrow. You think I'm not going to bring it up with her?

She probably gets two cakes. You. She's working with him right now. Take it up with him. She's on the active. She's on the active. She's on the circuit. But you're on the list.

I mean, once you're in, you're in forever. That's the whole thing. It's true. It's true. That's why you've got to get on this. All right. A quiet place. Yes.

This will also always hold a special place for a number of reasons. I would imagine. Yes. I know the reception caught you guys off guard, obviously working with John. Talk to me a little bit about what's, I mean, in the production of it, was it surprising actually working that close with John given that you had never done it before? Was it surprising experience for you?

I think we had sort of anticipatory fear about the idea of it because you don't know, right? And I think people are different people when they're at work and we knew each other in a domesticated sense and I think you're just a slightly different version of yourself when you're at work and what would that be like and we knew we wouldn't have the diplomacy that you would you have a short hand you have a secret language you your fuse might be shorter your patience might be different you know it's all of these elements that you share with your partner and how would that be interpreted on set you know so I also though

I didn't know he knew what to do with a camera. I mean, you're a smart guy. I truly, before we started shooting, was like, do you know how to shoot this movie? Like, do you know what a lens is? And he was very humbly, he goes, I think I do. And then we got on set, and I was just, like, staggered by him. I was so in awe of him and amazed that he could shoot like that

and how visual he was, and he's an actor. He knows how to talk to actors. And I think maybe during that experience, as much as we compliment each other offsets, you know, in all of each other's work, maybe I felt the full measure of how what he thought of me as an actor and that was so moving, you know, because I got to experience that first hand, his reactions to whatever I might have done. and it was really cool. It was really cool. And I think everyone thought we'd be divorced by the end of it. And then they're like, you're making another one? Can your marriage take it?

You know, I think the only thing and the reason why I'm taking a breather from it for a while is just because those movies were like a wild horse in our house. You know, they just, you know, another family member. And it takes over so much and you don't have the opportunity to go, how was your day? Because you saw it and you lived it. And I'm so proud of the movies, like superlatively proud of the movies.

I can't even tell you, but, and proud of him. And also thrilled that the world found out what I knew of him, which was that he had sort of soaring abilities that hadn't been recognized to their full extent. So I was really thrilled by after that Southfire reaction, you know, it was just the coolest thing to wake up next day and I could see that he'd been invited into the sandpit in a way that he'd been craving and it was just the coolest I just saw your coaster

Millson's in a play last night John's going to see it next week I know cool was she awesome yeah good um who was the actor you stole it from um a quiet place you said that it was it was intended for a friend of yours oh I can't I'll never tell I'll never tell I mustn't I've never said it and Hathaway no wake live wait see on a Miller do they know come on do you know all of my friends I got three of them they know

it's an in joke and they're cool with it they're cool with it yeah okay they knew not to get in front of that train you know Lupita has shot kind of the side story yes yes but the intent is at some point to finish the trilogy with your character well Killian and I were having a chat with John about it last night

we were sitting on a rooftop all together drinking wine And you know it would be good. You know it would be great as we keep this thing going. I think there's, it would have to be that we would all do it together. You know, I don't want it to be with a different director if we did it again, you know. It's been a while since you've done theater. I know. Have you ever done theater here in New York?

Never. I only did it in England for like the first year of my professional life. That's right to say. Like professional life. Look, you're a busy lady, you're highly in demand, you're a mom, there's a lot going on, but is that on the list still? Of course, do you want to hear my reason, and it's a real one. I don't want to miss bedtime every night. I know it's the thing that gives me anxiety.

I can't do it yet. I'm not ready for that. I know, but it's true. It makes me emotional, like thinking about it. Trying to be snarky and silly, and you had to bring it better. I know, I'm bringing it right there. You can't argue. with that all right no i can't i have no retort to that um have you retired from auditioning one was the

last time emily blunt actually had to audition for a role i auditioned for rob marshall for into the words and by the way i didn't want to i was terrified and i'd said no to auditioning for him for nine and for something because i didn't want to sing in front of anyone and he i'd said no to auditioning for into the words and then he called chris andrews my amazing agent and he said she's coming in not looking for singers who can kind of act. I want actors who can kind of sing. Just bring her in. There's no pressure.

We're just going to sing a song and I'm going to talk to her. And that was it. And it just made it sort of open-ended and cozyer than I had anticipated it being. And it's become a lifelong collaboration and friendship. And I want to do everything with Rob. He was just with us. He and John came to us for Fourth of July.

They're uncles to my children. It's, it has become one of the most profound relationships of my career working with him. Were you back in the day, like an anxious auditioner? Did you see it as an opportunity or did you dread it? No, I didn't dread it that much. I mean, I would dread it if I had to like sing or something, but I did see it as an opportunity always, yeah.

I didn't mind auditioning. I quite liked it. I mean, I would be nervous. I would feel terrified, but I didn't mind that feeling. I think, yeah, this most thing that some action said to me over the ears is like, it's a swish in your head. If you see it as an opportunity,

I'm getting to act for somebody. And they're sort of willing you to be it. Like you have to just, don't think they're willing you to fail. They're sort of willing, they want to find it. Right. One of my favorite pieces of IMTV trivia I've ever seen on an actor is in your bio. OK.

Do you have your gloves? Yeah, I don't love a glove. I don't love a glove, sort of slithering your hands into something and just like, slither is slither. It's my favorite word, Siena Miller, started to introduce me to the word slither and now we say it to each other all the time. So now it's just like right on the tip of my tongue.

She talks about people just being like, and I just saw him sort of slithering into the road. It's like, she says it so much. We now call each other slither. It's like the best. There's another on the IMD. Is boop an actual? This is what my mom calls me.

Yeah, I know. My dad calls me peanut. My mom calls me boop. I know, I'm killing you with this stuff. I'm crushing this. All. It's the 10 years was worth the one. Anyway, any kind of glove?

Is it like those long, like, opera gloves? Yeah, definitely the long opera gloves I could do without. And then, I mean, listen, I live in New York, so in the middle of winter, I'm going to be putting on some mittens, but I'd take a mitton over some gloves. Right, right. Okay. Yeah.

You mentioned working with Ryan. Yes. How's the fall guy? Awesome. Probably a long time in Australia with David Leach. Amazing, David Leach. Just the greatest guy, the greatest guy's, plural. They were wonderful to me, and it was just a joy bond.

The whole thing, absolutely adored it. It was, it's a big, entertaining, sweeping, epic love story of like, as we says, a line in the movie of Cosmic Proportions. And so it was cool. It's a celebration of making movies. It was just, it was beautiful. Loved it. Did you play a director?

I do, yeah. Did you base? On John? I didn't say it. And my Chris Nolan and Denise, I. I feel a bit more like Deney in it. I think maybe. Maybe I'm a bit more of a denie in it,

sort of pretending I don't really have it together, a little more erratic and yeah, eccentric maybe. I mean, I'm of the age that I grew up with that show. What a show. Great theme song. Yeah. Is the theme song in the film? Maybe.

Ryan is so epic in it. He's fantastic. Oh my God, he's hilarious. He's your competition, are you? He really is. I mean, this whole Barbie thing, this Barbienheimer thing. I'm loving it. I'm loving it.

we're all loving it I mean because I think ultimately we want everyone to go back to the go see the double bill if you want the the steak dinner and the Sunday have them both like recommendation for you what do you start with I mean I would say do Oppenheimer first then go metabolize it yeah and then if you need a sort of you know I think that's smart because you want to be focused yes you got to be focused clear you don't want to start that at 9 p.m. really you know just yeah yeah um Do you share, you know, Gosling likes an amusement park. Does he?

Yeah, he's a big Disney guy. You should use your, like, Mary Poppins in to get him to work. I know. I could get him some freebies, but I won't, because, you know. Because he's betrayed you. He's betrayed me. Yeah. He lied to you, okay.

Go ask Marvel for some freebies, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? You also worked with the painfully uncharismatic Chris Evans recently. Oh, the worst. Pain Hosters is coming out later this year. David Yates, another one of those, like, amazing faculties, but it's like, McCormous, sweetest, sweetest man. Yes, it's just the sweetest man.

It's such a brilliant storyteller. And the movie's great. It's set to the backdrop of the opioid crisis, and it's about this down-and-out single mother who sort of gets pulled into the intoxicating world of selling pharmaceuticals. And it's a morality play. It's about how far do you go, you know? And at what point do you, do you, do you really? at what point do you

sort of recognize all the lies you're telling yourself in the pursuit of success, you know? So it's about that it's a take on the American dream and a cautionary tale, really. Are you one of those kind of actors that kind of keeps like the list of the filmmakers that you're... What to work with? Yeah, I mean, like... I mean, there's a few

I would love to, you know, I'd love to work. Like Paul Thomas Anderson and like, I'd love to work with Scorsese. I'd love that. Never had the Marty meeting? No. That guy. Oh, that guy. Does he know I haven't played a superhero?

Like, stop casting Leonardo. I haven't played one either. Not with a Leonardo DiCaprio thing. I mean, come on. He's brilliant, isn't he? He's one of my favorites. He's the best. Besides Bake Off and Shark Tank.

Okay. Anything else you're watching lately? Do you know what I love? Is Breakpoint on Netflix all the tennis players? Oh, I've heard it. Oh, definitely worth it. Yeah, get involved. The only two people I know that are obsessed with Shark Tank

are my mom and you. And me. I knew I loved your mother. What's your mother's name? Barbara. Barbara. Of course it is. I love it.

Oh, I love that. Do you have dreams of bringing a brand, bringing a product to the sharks? No. Like a tequila brands. Can people join? Every celebrity needs an alcohol. No, I don't have an interest in it.

No. Not really. You could be the next J-Lo. No. Who can be the next j-lo? J-Lo. There's no one coming for that crown. E-blue. E-blue. You heard it here.

But what would E-Blue be? It's horrible. Horrible. So no products. No products. No, no products. Let's do the happy second fuse for a family random questionnaire. Okay. So wait, what do I do? You can answer a few random questions for me. Okay.

What do you collect? Sneakers. White sneakers. Nice sneakers. Yes. Last doctor you were mistaken for. Oh my god, it was someone good. It was a girl from, uh... Is it the Gilded Age?

What's it called? Oh, um, Carrie Coon? No. No, it was one of those shows. It was, um, it was, uh... What's the one? Bridgeton. Someone said, I love you in Bridgeton.

I said, thank you. Yes, you're excellent in Bridgeton. Excellent for you. So I don't know who it was. That's okay. I'm wrapping up, I promise. No, no, you can do. He's fine.

He can do all this questions. Do it. Worst note a director has ever given you. Can you do it more like this person? Like an actual... And pointed to the actor I was working with. And my dear friend, she is one of my dear friends. She went, because she was so horrified for me, I think.

That was one of the worst notes I ever got. How did you react? Did you take it in stride or particularly... I think I at that point was so sick of bad. notes that I went yeah okay I kind of knew what the person meant but kind of was so a better way to it's a better way of saying can you just be a bit more like this person what's a podcast that you would create for yourself to host is there a subject that you would actually be a good podcast host for I always want to know what scares people

yeah does that seem sort of basic no there's nothing basic about you yeah last thing I kicking me out. Happy, said, confused. An actor that always makes you happy. Robin Williams. Love it. Movie that makes you sad. Oh, God, Christ. Shadowlands.

Oh, that's good. Yeah. Oh, it's a weep, weep fest. And a food that makes you confused. Burritos. What? They're so sludgy and yet sort of satisfying. It's so slithy.

I think a burrito is like sludgy, but also sort of great sometimes. but could be terrible in equal measures as being delicious. So I'm endlessly confusing. No, it's just like mush. It's just like pudding. I don't love it. We ended badly.

Oh, we ended badly. That was it. I'll see you another 10 years. Yes, please. No, sooner. Sooner, sooner. Thank you for the time today. Of course.

I always look catching up. The movie is truly exceptional. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. And keep doing bedtime. I guess we'll wait for theater. It's good to see it.

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