Happy Sad Confused - Jack Quaid

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

Jack Quaid knows how lucky he is but it's not just luck that's seen Jack find his way into THE BOYS, STAR TREK, SCREAM, and projects directed by Martin Scorsese and Steven Soderbergh. He joins Josh just as the 4th season of THE BOYS has concluded to chat about the much loved series. ⁠Subscribe here⁠ to the new Happy Sad Confused clips channel so you don't miss any of the best bits of Josh's conversations! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! ZocDoc -- Go to ⁠Zocdoc.com/HappySad⁠ and download the Zocdoc app for FREE Check out the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Happy Sad Confused patreon here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes, video versions of the podcast, and more! To watch episodes of Happy Sad Confused, subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Josh's youtube channel here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Happy, sad, confused begins now. I'm Josh Horowitz. And today on Happy, Sad, Confused. It's Jack Quaid. He's one of the boys. He's arguably even a man. He's even a Superman. He's so many things, but most importantly, he's on the podcast today.

Welcome, Jack, to Happy Set Confused. Hello. Hello. It's good to be back, Josh. Good to see you again, my friend. It's so good to see you. You know, I have a little point of information that I don't think you even realized. Even though we've chatted a bunch of times, you've never done the official, official, official Happy Say, Confused podcast.

You did. Oh, my God. What did I do last time? Where was? What did I do? You did the Comedy Central show Stir Crazy, which was whack-a-doodle, lots of games. We've done some short things for MTV, but this is, today you were a man. You are, you are fully, arguably a man. Arguably, no.

Arguably, no, it feels, wow, this feels great, because I feel like, weirdly, I saw you do, so I saw me and the great Oli Hascovy, we came to see you interview Gary Oldman at the 92nd Street, why I know I wasn't on stage being interviewed, but I felt like I was part of it. You were. What an honor to have an Aister in the audience. You guys made it happen. I really appreciated that. Papa Gary. Yeah, we shared some fun times with Gary Oldman backstage. Because you guys, though you're op and homies forever, hadn't really cross paths, had you? No, no. I mean, like, I don't really cross paths with a lot of people in that movie. you know, I did actually get my fair share.

Like, there was, there's that Christmas party scene in the movie where I am, of course, playing the bongos. But, like, everyone, there were so many people just, like, in and around and milling around that set, like, insane people that, like, I couldn't believe I was in the same room as, like, Kenneth Brana and, like, Matt Damon and Emily Blunt and all these, like, all these incredible actors.

I was, like, completely spoiled out of that movie, just getting to watch, like, truly great people do what they do that was insane it was such a remark i mean i was going to get to it later but since we're talking about it it is like that once in a lifetime kind of opportunity not only even if the movie hadn't won a gazillion Oscars and made a bagillion dollars it was already from what i know of you and only a very very special experience in many ways has it been has it been kind of like bittersweet to let it go finally because you had a long run at least you had a long road to enjoy the spoils you're but it's funny because we didn't really get

to like promote it because it came out right as the sag strike kicked in um but no it's it's wonderful it kind of felt like it hasn't ended really like I'd still the op and homies are still a thing like that group that group chat still a thing which by the way I'd want to set the record straight I did not I created the thread because uh I just wanted to like you know chat with everybody I like to do that uh whenever I'm on anything like um but I did not name it op and homies that was olivia thurlby just to set the record completely straight um but we still all keep in touch with each other we really do like that's a it's a really great group of actors and really great group of people and i i you know i'm going to count my blessings on that project

till the day i die granted you know i'm a small part um but like i don't care like it's like the greatest uh like ensemble to be a part of ever like you're just i i'm thrilled that i'm in a of that movie. Like, I'm so, so lucky. I met everyone. I like that the, uh, the disclaimer about the op and homies origins almost feels like there's pending litigation that you're trying to declare it. Like, well, it's funny. Like, it took off. The story of this took off, uh, uh, like, while we were all, I think in the, you know, it was this, the strike was happening. So none of us could talk about it. So we like, you know, all want to set the record straight that it was like, it was Olivia. Give Olivia the credit. She deserves it. It was all her.

It's funny. Yeah, I mean, I think it achieved another level when like it started to be talked about in like awards speeches when Emily or Downey were like actually referencing it like, oh wow, this silly little text group has become the center of pop culture. How did we get here? I truly how did we get here? I mean, watching Killian accept a war, it's been going up and homies like with that Irish accent. It's just it's the greatest thing in the world. It really is. I'm a little disappointed that I guess I'm disappointed myself too, that. neither of us are wearing corded headphones. I feel like this is the one thing we really share. I noticed this. And many people give me flack about it. Can you give me your perspective on why you're a corded headphone guy?

I'm a corded boy, Josh Warwitz. I'm a corded boy. I think it's because, I don't know, with the AirPods, it's such a thick case. It's always a weird, awkward, like, other, like, rectangular bulge in my pocket. Like, it's, I didn't need to say it. that but here I go um but uh no I find it I find it I don't know I like I like the chord of it I like that I can you know what it really is it's being on the phone well I like to walk I'm a man who loves a good jaunt um and I you know it's just like being on the phone and they have that

you have that microphone right there because like the AirPods just no one can hear you no it can it also signals to the world like I love you world but just so you see like they're I'm definitely on the phone right now just I'm definitely like, yeah, there's no, there's no, yeah, I love you, but go away. Also, I don't think there's a thing that's more embarrassing than dropping your AirPods to the point where they, like, they hit the ground shore, like in the case. But then the AirPods themselves fly out, and that's happened to me a couple times, that explosion, that little, like, like, AirPods, doing anything you can to avoid these little moments. I'm so sorry, where my, I need my little things. I just feel it's terrible.

It's the worst. On the flip side, I don't know about you. I feel like I spend 45 minutes every day untangling my cords. I do. But to me, I'm like, this is a, this is a, this is part of it. This is part of it. This is what you get. This is the price you pay.

And honestly, I make it a little game. How fast can I do it? Oh. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a little personal Rubik's cube. So I'm catching you. We're about all, we're all about to.

enjoy the holidays that July 4th is coming up. I know you just wrapped a lot of work. So are you a holiday guy? Are you a July 4th guy? Where are you on fireworks? Gosh, look at this shirt. I am on vacation mode right now. Look at this.

Look at you. Look at this. No, I, I, uh, look, it's, it's tough to celebrate Fourth of July sometimes living in America and being a little like, what are we talking about? Okay, what are we solving here? But do I love a bar? Yeah. Do I love a barbecue shirt?

Right. Like, democracy may be falling, but we make a hell of a hot dog and a hamburger, don't we? But man, do we ever just enjoy a beer on a hot day? That's really, that's really good. Are you a holiday guy? Are you a 4th of July? I'm not taking all the complicated patriotism out of it. Patriotism I'm all good with.

It's more of the, it will surprise nobody to learn that, like, I'm not big on fireworks. I don't need just like just explosions in my life. Like, I'm good. Like, I don't need a sparkly explosion. I think I live in LA and every year, like, 4th of July, it has become, one time I watched it from, like, the top of a mountain and I just watched the entire city just light itself up. Like, it is just constant explosions happening.

And I'm good with, like, one great fireworks show. Sure. But now it's just become, like, the whole city is lighting off things, whether it's sanctioned or not. And it just, it's really chaotic. It really just feel like a war zone. I'm cool with like the, I want to see one of those drone shows. I haven't seen one of those before. What meaning what?

Yeah, they have like drones that fly in the sky and they like, you know, move around and create shapes. And I've seen like videos of them. It looks really, really awesome. So on other holidays, here's a stupid game because I know you're always worthy of a stupid game. Fuck, Mary Kill, New Year's Eve, Christmas, Halloween. Oh, this is, oh, this is tough. I think I have to kill New Year's Eve. because I'm never exactly sure

like what I don't know what are you supposed to do it's always just like getting drunk and just being like ah I'll deal with the hangover next morning I just I don't know it's never been my favorite I'm never exactly sure what to do

and I always made a plan laid never great I guess you gotta fuck Halloween that Halloween's fun Halloween's fun it's a good time holiday yeah but you don't want to marry Halloween You don't want to, there's no way you want to.

It's a one-night thing. Yeah. The one-night thing. And I guess you have to marry Christmas. Sure. Good food. Where do you fall in that equation? Are you pro-d-eat?

No, I'm definitely anti-New-Jour's Eve. For the reasons you said, I'm not, you know, I enjoy a good drink, but it feels like it's excess for excess sake. And it also feels just like the expectations. It's all about like, you know, you're taking stock of everything. I don't want to take stock of everything. I don't want to analyze myself. I do that every day.

Anyway, I'm good. Yeah, there's a lot of expectations. There's a lot of like, you know, I'm going to change everything about my life starting right now. Right. No, it's not not real drinking a mudslide at a club. You're not going to do anything though I do enjoy a good mudslide. It's been too long. Yeah, it doesn't enjoy it.

It's an alcoholic chocolate milkshake. How do we not above that? Ring in the new year the right way. Okay, so this, okay, we're going to swerve into, to, um, semi-coherent conversation because this is the first time. you've done the full-on podcast. So we're obligated to have kind of the career conversation. So this is your life, Jack Quaid. Here we go.

Here we go. For those that don't know, Jack comes from Hollywood royalty. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kinman are your parents. Is that right? Those are my parents, not anyone else. Yeah, I didn't check Wikipedia. I forgot to do your research. Good, good.

Yeah. You know what? Don't. You don't need to check Wikipedia. It's fine. It's all lies anyway. Yeah. I mean, that would be a hell of a, hell of a story, though. I mean, Dennis and Meg are great, but Tom and Nicole, that would be really special. But secretly, it's Tom and Nicole over my parents. That's huge.

Yeah. Have you ever met Tom Cruise? Simon's a friend. Simon must make that, Simon Pegg has to make that introduction for you. He's got it, man. He's, I mean, like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm good with Simon Pegg, man. The fact that I know him is like still the greatest It's like aspect of my life. But no, I know I've never met, I don't think I've ever met either Tom Cruise or Nicole Kidman, but they're my parents and I can sign them. So, yes, that's my journey.

In all seriousness, of course, true Hollywood royalty, Dennis Quaid, Meg Ryan, the greats. And obviously, I said this to you before, just in social situations, it's always shocking to me how well adjusted you are considering the bizarre childhood you must have had. It's a, look, it's a weird way to grow up. I mean, like, all things consider, though, they were, like, great parents. Like, look, people have called me a nepo baby. Like, I'm totally inclined to agree. I'm definitely a nepo baby.

Like, I know that the way I grew up was, like, just different than most people's. You know what I mean? And, like, my last name is Quaid. You know what I mean? You can't run away from it. Yeah. I can't run away from that at all. No, like, I can't be like, just.

came to Hollywood with some gumption and a lunch pail full of dreams. Like, I know the deal. But, you know, I know the door was open for me in a lot of ways. And I feel like all I've ever wanted to do was work as hard as I possibly can to prove that I deserve to walk through those doors. Because, you know, I love doing this, man. I think it's, I did my first play in middle school. And, you know, it was like that first play where you're like, you have to audition for it

and you have to like stay after school. And I just love the whole process. I loved meeting the people who I did it with. I'm still friends with them to this day. Like I love making art. And, you know, one of many privileges about my life early on was I got to grow up in a family that valued art and was just like, you know, a family of artists. Is your, is your relationship with their great work?

I would imagine it's different than mine. I mean, I would hate to think that Jack Lloyd is the only person that doesn't appreciate inner space as much as anybody should. Oh, I appreciate inner space. If interspace was never made, I wouldn't be born. So that's, I appreciate it. If you wanted to like back to the future me out of existence, you just go back and you make sure that interspace was never made. That's a loss for, that's a loss for humanity on a number of levels. We don't get Jack Quaid. We don't get a great movie. Oh, but I love inner space. It's, uh, also I just outside of everything, Martin Short's amazing. So there you go.

Do you have vivid memories of being on set for both of them? And I'm trying to do the map of like what kind of films you would have been on. No, I like, it's funny. I think people think I was like always on set. But like when you're a kid and you're on a set, when you're anyone and you're on a set that isn't that you're not working on, it is weird. It is a weird environment because a set is a well-oiled machine. Right. And it doesn't really, any extraneous parts are not like anyone's treating you badly, but you, you, you don't really quite fit.

And so it's like, what can we do for you? What do you? I guess we can get you a chair over here by crafty if you want, but like. That's what it was. I was just like, I'd watch some takes. And then, you know, I'd, you get, you're a kid, you get kind of bored. Like, it's not like, the magic of it is. not really quite there. But it was, you know, it made me probably more comfortable on a set

than, you know, your average person getting you stepping on a set for the first time. Like, I remember when I first stepped on a set that was like a set that I was working on was probably the Hunger Games. Like I had done some like short films and very low budget movies where I have like two lines before the Hunger Games. But that was that was a different feeling altogether. But I was like somewhat familiar with the rhythm, but not as an actor. just really, I was, when I was a kid, I was mostly just going, I feel like I save this all the time because it's true. Like, I would just go and raid the craft service truck. I was just so excited that there was a whole drawer full of candy and I could just like have some. Like,

that was great. But yeah, no, I went on, I went on a few. I think the biggest, like, benefit from that is like, I got to see my parents do what they do and truly love what they do. And like, you know, I wasn't part of the family where I was like the one actor being like, hey, I want to do this and meeting any kind of resistance. Like they, the whole time, they were like, okay, sure. Are you sure you want to? We know how hard it is. But they let me find that out for myself. So that was, that was wonderful.

And it's clear, I mean, from this conversation and others that we've had that like you do know and love this stuff. Whether you were in the business or not, you would be watching and talking about all of these things. Because you've always been obsessed with this stuff. Sure, yeah, I'm a huge nerd. So, so doing, again, doing the math, like, what was your bag, like, as, like, a 15, 16-year-old? Like, I mean, like, that's, like, heyday of, like, you know, Dark Night and Iron Man come out in 2008, so you're, what, 16 then? Like, are you a Harry Potter kid? Or you were the rings?

Like, what were your obsessions growing up? Funny, I was, I was like a, definitely a Star Wars kid. And that was kind of the time around, I guess the prequels that kind of stopped at that point. Maybe. Doing the math right. I saw everything that came out. I mean, definitely, I think Marvel was really taking off and starting to hit its stride around then too.

Really what I was doing was like, I was working with my friends. We were just making like dumb little movies, like all the time. And I, you know, I wasn't like auditioning professionally yet or anything, but I was like trying to make like, I think now I would call them sketches. Back then, I would just call them videos. But like that was kind of what I did around that time.

But in terms of like obsessions, it was all of it. I think Marvel was probably like the biggest one at the time. And there was like rumors of new Star Wars movies. And I was so excited about that. But I ate it all up. I was just like I've always been a gigantic nerd about that stuff. And the fact that I get to be in nerdy things is another total blessing in my life. Like the fact that I get to play around in the genre space is truly wonderful.

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Starbucks, it's never just coffee. I guess the first time, first kind of significant film you have, here in, you know, talking about the genre space is the Hunger Games. So your memories of making that, I mean, like, that part doesn't necessarily have a lot to say, but you have a little time with Stanley Tucci.

You get to be... A little tuch. Yeah. You got a little menacing evil grins in the background. You get to... All I do. You also... Menacing evil grinned in the background. That's all I do. And you do it well, though. You also,

though, you murder in cold blood poor Rue. Are you ready to You're ready to apologize for your actions? I've been apologizing since that movie came out. It's been, Amanda was actually publicly forgiven me. We did a, yeah, I did a Comic-Con a few years ago, and I remember doing an interview with somebody, and Amandala had been there, like, earlier that afternoon,

like promoting, I think, like the accolade or something. And she, on cameras, like Jack, I've given it a lot of thought, but I forgive you. And they were literally filming me, like filming my reaction to getting forgiven. A man was so awesome and so sweet. And the fact that people are justifiably mad that I murdered her all these years later, it just like speaks to how amazing she is. But yeah, no, of course I'm sorry.

What are you talking about? You'd be a psychopath if you were like, you know what? I stand by my action. She had it coming. Then I'd be a true menacing guy in the background with an evil grim. No, my whole experience with that movie was that was really my first big thing that I, like, booked. Like, I remember I would go, instead of going on vacation during, like, spring break at NYU, I would go back to L.A. and see if I could, like, get in the room and audition.

And that was one of a few things that I was going out for for that spring break, like just this little two-week window. And I went in, you know, I don't think I was truly good at auditioning. yet but something about like the energy of that room like it was the first time i ever went into a audition room and they said choose your weapon and they had all these like um like nerf versions of like swords and beers and stuff um so i picked up a sword and you know i found out like a few weeks later that i had gotten it and i was very flabbergasted i was very intimidated and the thing is that part is very small but those books were huge so even the minor characters got like deadline article announcements so like you know because it had a fandom and that was like my first real interaction with

a fandom um and they're they're all so lovely but there was just so many eyeballs on that thing so it was very intimidating to be a part of a anticipated thing out of the gate but then i got to north carolina happened like during my summer vacation uh like in between my freshman and sophomore year of college and i met all these wonderful people that were more or less around my age uh some a little younger some little older and it really you know this is a cliche you hear every actor say but it really did feel like a summer camp yeah because we were literally like in the woods and uh you know we're all like doing these pretty rigorous training uh you know i'm still i was i was in the best shape i've ever been in during the shooting of that movie um but it was it was great like i just hung out

with all these amazing young actors who just were like the best pals i'm still friends with a lot of them It was a really, really good time. And Jennifer Lawrence was, like, incredible. Not that, like, obviously she was so busy throughout that movie, but every little interaction that we had, she was just like the kindest human being in the world. And I don't know, I'm just so happy that after that, she just, like, took off into the stratosphere

because it was like, this is the nicest person it could have happened to. 100%. And it's just a few years after that, you know, For someone just starting out, you start to, like, accumulate this crazy litany of filmmakers. So you work on a vinyl, which, of course, for those who don't remember, executive produced and I believe the pilot directed by Mr. Marns Corsese. Yeah, yeah. I mean, also you have Mick Jagger in the mix. You got this crazy cast, Conavalli.

And he'd show up. Mick Jagger would show up sometimes. It was crazy. Is that more intimidating? Who's more intimidating, Scorsese or McJagger, or to see them both in both your line of vision? Mick Jagger only because like It doesn't make sense

You can visualize him directing someone on a film set But like I remember I did a scene once And this was like episode six It was like far into the run And I hadn't really seen him Other than like occasional like You know like let's

Show like a filming kickoff party or something like that Always the nicest person ever But I remember finishing a scene And going to the video village to like see how it went uh with the director and then all of a sudden he was there and he was like like saying yeah and it was like it was it was intense it was it was it was it was great it was so encouraging but um uh yeah that was uh that came out of nowhere but that whole yes getting to work

with corsese was insane like i still can't believe i got that lucky to work with him he's so cool he's so funny um that what did you call him do you call him do you call him Marty? You say, like, it's funny. On the day, you're like, I'm allowed to call him Marty because it seems like that's what he prefers. But I will not refer to him as Marty anywhere else, but you know, then you're doing that thing where you're like, well, me and Barry Obama is what I mean. Like, you know, I don't want to do that. But no, I remember auditioning for Scorsese for that, which was insane. I think he was in town for the Oscars for Wolf of Wall Street. And there was a, I audition once.

And then this was like a callback in it. It was in like a room at the Beverly Hills Hotel. And Juno Temple was walking out of her audition. She booked that role as well. And I was walking into mine. We're like, hello. And I was so, I don't think I've ever been more nervous for an audition in my life. But he was so kind.

Yeah. Oh my God. Like, I still can't believe that happened. And that entire cast was just these, you know, that was probably the only time. I was like one of, if not the youngest person of a main cast. And I just learned from, not that anybody was like so much older than me, but like it was really cool to learn from people like Bobby Cannavali and Max Cassell, PJ Byrne, who I now is on The Boys, which is crazy.

Like all these amazing actors who were so incredibly kind to me and just really showed me the ropes, showed everybody the ropes in such a cool, exciting way. And then you get to work with Soderberg, who as I understand it, on the flip side, you don't even have to audition for, which is a crazy story in and of itself. I found out at a party, like, somebody was like, you're going to be in this movie. And I'm like, really? I'm like, I think at that stage, I was like, he probably thought I was a different person. Like, he probably thought I was like some other guy and was just confused. And I called my reps saying, like, hey, is there any validity to this? And they were like, yeah, we'll send you to scripts.

And I got to play a friggin' whack-a-do character in FishBank in Logan Lucky. Again, like, just such an incredible, like, we shot that in Atlanta over one summer. He's really interesting, Steven Soderberg, because he is also the DP. He's also the one, like, behind the camera. So if he gives you a note, it's like this, which is so I'm used to, I'm used to, like, you know, you do the scene. And you kind of wait a second for the director to, like, walk over. if he or she has something to say but then he would

like take that footage you do like maybe one or two takes like he's not you know he's not going to overdo anything and then usually you're wrapped by lunch like you it's so quick I'm endlessly

I can uh yeah and he takes him on on the podcast he edits it day after the freaking shoot is done he has a cut of the movie sometimes day up sometimes day of like He would, I remember being, oh, yeah, day after the shoot, it's done, he has the movie, yes. Yeah, but he shows the deli's that night, basically everybody, right?

He shows it to everybody. I remember going back to my hotel room after a day of work, which, again, we stopped at, like, noon, and then I would get a call on my, like, hotel phone. I'd answer it, like, hey, it's Stephen, we're showing the movie in room, you know, 312 or whatever, and I'd go down there and I'd watch stuff. And sometimes I'd be like, we shot that today, which is just unbelievable. crazy and I remember getting there and watching everything they had shot like I hadn't shot my first day yet and I watched everything they had shot up until this moment and it was so great I wish I could do that with every movie yeah that I'm just coming into as like a small part of because I really understood the tone immediately I understood the exact movie we were making it was amazing I I don't know I would

love to have more projects implement that you also got to run away from a gorilla in rampage with jane johnson that's that's an achievement unlocked i would think that's something second time working with p j burn incredible that's right that's right yeah yeah we're just like we're just like i'm so happy we wind up being in the same things together um yeah that was that was incredible too i it's so funny i remember auditioning for that movie and in the sides it says like he has a high-pitched scream because one of the scenes was gorilla go through a wall you scared that was one of the that was one of the sides and I remember doing that scene and do it like I can do a pretty high-pitched stream yeah and that was kind of my first time really

understanding that I could do that and I remember doing that and I was in the audition room and the casting director after that was like that scream is something I was like is it And she's like, yeah. And then I left, and the entire waiting room was just staring at me. They didn't expect that, that noise to come from me. He committed. He committed. Yeah, but everyone's like, that wasn't you, right?

Like, she didn't scream. Everything was fine. The sound can't come out of that body. Is that possible? Yeah, it was, yeah, no. And then it's funny, I do do that screen, scream in the movie, but when I do it, I, like, I like duck really hard, and then they cut to a wide shot. So, like, and there's a bunch of people milling about.

So it could be anybody. But now for the record, you're proud of that scream, and it's all Jack Quaid. That's what you're saying. That was the, it's me, baby. I was proud of it. And now we come to the current slate of Jack Quaid projects, namely the boys, which, you know, I'm such a fan of this one. As we tape this, the season's still going on. But spoiler, we're going to talk little spoilers because by now the entire season's out there.

And it's a fucking awesome season, season four. First, before we get to the events of season four, give me a sense, like, when this one comes around, when this audition comes around, this opportunity, is this just another audition? Is this something like, oh, this would check a lot of boxes for me. This feels like a good one. It's exactly that.

Like, I remember I got, you know, it was just an email to, there was a script, which is crazy now because every script is like under lock and key, but back then you didn't know into what it was. So I just got sent the script. and basically saying that they were going to set a meeting with me and Eric Kripke, the showrunner, I guess he had seen this little, there used to be this thing called Amazon pilot season,

and I was on the last one. It was like when you, Amazon would produce three pilot episodes of TV shows, potential TV shows, then they would put those three on their platform and the audience would vote on which became a show. I was on the very last one of those because the end of them became. came shows. But I think he saw something he maybe wanted for Huey and that. So I just got this meeting initially. But I read the script and I was like, this is awesome. This, I didn't realize it was based on a comic book initially. I thought he basically just wrote a script about America and put superheroes into it. And then I did my research. I was like, oh, it's this whole, it's this whole

series of books. So I had my meeting went great. I had my first audition, went all right. had a chemistry read with Aaron Moriarty and then finally had a callback with Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg who are heroes of mine. So it was also intimidating because sometimes you really, most of the time when you really want something, it doesn't go your way. Most of the time, if you kind of like don't really want it, it does go your way. So I was so like, I got to nail this. I really do.

and I read with Seth Rogan like that was the craziest thing was he was doing butcher's lines in his like Seth Rogan voice like we got to get him in the boot and then we're going to bugger off like it was so it was so surreal because he's again a hero of mine so yeah and then when I got it I don't think I've ever been more overjoyed

in my life because you know I knew that I really fought for it I knew I knew that I wanted to be part of the show because I would watch the show. I knew that. Like, I read the script. I'd watch the hell out of this and I, uh, I would want to be like a guy in the background. I'd be an extra in the show if it wasn't Huey. You know what I mean? That's how much I loved the show. I love the material. And then shooting him was just such a dream. It's, it's so impressive how it's a huge ensemble, obviously, and how it really does serve all of you guys. And you all have plenty to chew on. Certainly Huey this season goes through it in a number

of different ways. First off, the stuff with Simon and Rose Marie, heartbreaking and really dramatic and, I mean, I have really juicy material for an actor. Can you talk about sort of those final scenes with Simon and that road that you guys have been on together? I'd love to. It's actually, it's so crazy because, I don't know, I just feel like I haven't talked about this at all.

So this is such a cool opportunity because I've been, we shot that like year and change ago, even more than that maybe almost two years ago um i'm getting emotional talking about it i had such a good time uh with those two they're both heroes of mine seriously like simon peg you know from the cornetto trilogy he's always been like my north star in a lot of ways like he he writes all of his own material uh he's incredible in all the movies that he's in um not all this written by him but you know what i mean like he's like a guy that like he's so he's so incredible and uh he's been my hero for years so bringing it back a little bit when i first um started doing my research into the boys um the comic book i read the comic book and i was

like that guy looks familiar oh that guy's hughy um so if no one knows um the in the comic books Huey is modeled after Simon Pegg circa spaced because they were Derek Robertson who I know who illustrated those comics beautifully. He just loved space. So he put him in just because he's like, this guy's awesome. They did not clear it with him before they did that. And I'd like to thank Simon Pegg for a number of reasons. But first and foremost is I have a theory that the boys the TV show would not be a thing if not for Simon Pegg because most people would have seen that. I've been like, I'm suing

immediately. What do you mean? But Simon Pegg probably looked at it and was like, oh, sick. And he didn't sue. And so I'm so, you know, I'm so grateful for a number of reasons. But like that primary thing, like boys wouldn't be a thing if Simon Pegg had sued. So thank you, Simon. But that was so intimidating for me because he's such a hero of mine. And, you know, I never played the role in a live action setting,

but they were trying to make that a thing for a while. And it kind of felt like he had. So I was like, oh, no, like people are expecting Simon Pegg. How the hell am I going to live out to that? And then when they cast him as my dad, that was great, but also so intimidating because I'm like, I'm going to meet a hero. They say never to do that.

What's going to go? What's going to happen? Could not have been more welcoming. Could not have been kinder. sorry he he really uh is the best truly um sorry that's okay well i mean those scenes are i mean i can i can understand why i mean i know simon and he's a genuine like the sweetheart and like embodies everything we love about this industry right in terms of fandom and living the dream and doing it all with dignity and grace um but so in that scene i'm like you're my hero dad and i i'm not

acting, just saying it's a Simon Pegg, you know? He has. And then Rose Marie, uh, such a good choice for, for Huey's mom. I've been a fan of her for years. Um, coincidentally, we have the same acting coach, uh, which is unbelievable. So during a little hiatus I had for the boys, I would, I came back to L.A. and we had like a whole session where we just worked together

and our acting coach. And it was amazing because this through line of like Huey's mom having left him and, all that. It was like all that. That was kind of bubbling under the surface and Eric and I were working together. Eric Kripke, the showrunner, we were working together to kind of figure out what Huey's backstory was and we kind of came to this thing of like, oh, his mom abandoned him. I think Eric came up with that and then I was like, that's genius. And we had a little hint of that in season two. And then she just exceeded all of my expectations of like what that character was going to be. And she was so patient with me and so cool. And, so so loving and uh the three of us still have like a text thread going um it's called op and homies uh wait wait wait wait wait it's it makes sense let me finish um no but i i i love her so much and she's phenomenal in that part and i just hope we i hope we bring her back and i don't know daphne campbell is is incredible so when we were all finally there together the sorry i'm rambling because I've never talked about this before.

That whole sequence meant so much to me. The craziest thing about my journey with season four was, obviously, we're not going to have Simon Pegg come in and just lay in a bed for weeks while we, you know what I mean? We're going to get him for a, and that should not be the case. Like, he's busy being, you know, in Mission Impossible movies. So let's get him and use him well. So we had him for like two weeks and we shot all of that,

all of the material in the hospital. over the span of two weeks. Somewhere in the middle of the overall shoot of that season. And what that meant for me was everything leading up to that, like, I'm not in a lot outside of the hospital. So it's me kind of occasionally popping in for a scene with like the boys as a group and being like, what does that mean? But like saving a lot of my character growth for like this one intense two week period.

And I kind of loved that. Like I love that it was just this like rock block of like, he was such a crazy thing and I gotta give credit to Phil Segrisha who directed us he just was so incredible and he's a he's a guy that works with us

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But, like, where are you... I don't know how it happened either. I don't know. No, I'm not saying to Joey. It's all well-deserved. Oh, no, but like, I'm still like, when you say it in a list like that, I'm like, oh, okay, I'm very lucky. I can cut this part out if you want, because I think you said this to me,

it may be in confidence or not, but like, you auditioned for the live action Superman, you told me once. I did. Do you feel comfortable talking about that? What that audition process was like? Yeah. I mean, like, I think everybody did. You know what I mean? Like, if you can kind of fit a bill, like, no, it's just one of those I didn't get very far at all. I put myself on tape and that, and it went nowhere. And that's fine. Like, that's totally cool. Specifically because I actually know David Corden Sweat a little bit. We did a pilot years ago that never went anywhere, but he's one of those people you meet

and you go, oh yeah, like whenever they need another one, it's probably going to be you. That guy's Superman. Like that guy's Superman. Like I know I don't, you know, I remember getting that audition being like, yeah, sure, I'm the voice of Superman in a cartoon, but I don't really think I fit the bill physically at all. And that's, that's fine. That's totally cool. But it was just cool to get to audition for something like that. You know what I mean? Did you put on a costume or no? That's just like a self-type kind of thing? No, I didn't put out across. I think I might have like styled my hair to have a little bit of a curl, but I don't have the Superman hair. This is wavy. This is, this is not Superman. Look at me. There are a lot of superheroes in the

out there. Look me right now, Josh. I'm Superman. You're superman, totally. Yeah. Totally, man. You can do it. So if you had your druthers, you talked about love of Star Wars. Is that, is that the dream? I mean, you've done superhero stuff, obviously, between the boys and the cartoon. Yeah. No, I mean, like, I, yeah. Yeah, Star Wars is the dream, for sure. Like, being a superhero and something else, that could be a dream, too. Like, I haven't really called my shots, really. Like, things have just kind of miraculously been, kind of found me,

or I auditioned for it at a time where I was really right for something. Like, it feels like luck in a lot of ways. But I don't like to be like, yeah, next thing I want to do is this. Like, obviously, I want to do it, but I feel like I've been doing great, just kind of letting things happen in a way. So, I mean, yeah, I would love to do it. Yeah. I'd love to do it.

I'd love to do a Star Wars thing. I'd love to do, I don't know, I'm a big fan of a lot of stuff, you know. I'd love to be in a video game. I'd love to, what else? I mean, the adaptation, are you talking about like being actually in a video game or like one of these adaptations? Because the adaptations have taken off. They're finally cracked the code.

They figured it out. I was such a big fan. of Last of Us and Fallout, like I didn't think they're, we, we crack the coat. Yeah, those are two of the best shows period in the last five years. No, it was just incredible. And like, I'm really happy that the world is finally like having the collective thought of like, oh, we can get these rich stories from video games and, you know, me and all the other nerds. I'm like, we've been saying this for years. But yeah, no, it's, it's, I was saying more like in a video game, like I'd love to do like, performance capture i did a little bit of it i've done i was in lord of the ring shadow of mordor

i play the main character's son and i got to be on like a mocap stage with like troy baker and uh like laura bailey and nolan north and john demaggio like just like a baby block like just this like murderer's row of like and the last of us had just come out and i like auditioned with troy baker and i was like this is the craziest moment of my wife i sounded like that. I was 20. That's your natural voice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, it's not, it's natural. This is how I sound and I'm putting on a voice now. I'm putting on a voice. But no, I just, I thought that that was such a hard, such a difficult thing. I remember, you know, I wasn't quite as experienced as an actor, but like, you know, all the stuff on you and the camera that hooks

around and the, I remember having a scene where I have to talk very closely with Troy Baker because we're hiding from orcs. And then I had to run away, really quickly. And we both have these, uh, helmets, uh, that have little like, you know, like hooks where a camera can look at your face to see all the dots. And I had to run away really quickly quickly. And I almost a couple times as I went away, I think one time we did hook, you can hook camera rigs. Um, and I can like, it feels like you're about to like break each other's next when you do that. It's really like, it's really harrowing. I think even now the technology has gotten even better to where you don't need that as much. But, um, no, that'd be, that'd be cool. Again,

I think, sorry, I don't mean to say that, like, it's all been luck in terms of, like, the incredible opportunities I've been given. I think more so I found myself in a project where I'm like, this is incredible and exactly where I need to be right now. You know what I mean? And to call shots, I'm like, yeah, I could, but I'm really happy and content with everything happening right now, I think. I won't keep you much longer, but I do want to tease a couple of things. Hey, I'm enjoying myself. You, you, Novocaine sounds really cool. So this was, this is kind of like a big action role for you, fair to say.

Yeah. What can we tease about what's to come? So Paramount bought it. So congrats. You've got a nice little home in family. No, thank you and thank you Paramount. Like I, uh, this is so cool to talk about. I literally just wrapped this movie.

We shot it in South Africa. Dan Burke and Bobby Olson, the two directors are just incredible. They made these two amazing movies called Significant Other and Villains, which, you haven't seen. I saw that's what Bill. That's what Bill Scars card, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Incredible. No, it's an action movie. It's about a guy who can't feel pain. There's a real genetic disorder out there called CEPA, congenital and sensitivity to pain with anhydrosis. And there's a scale. Like, it varies, but most of the time people, their nervous system won't allow them to feel pain. Or hot or cold. Oftentimes, they don't sweat.

But basically, they have to, like, more often than not, like, drink their meals blended through a straw because they could bite their tongue off and not know. So it sounds kind of cool, like, oh, you don't feel pain. But really, it's very hard because the pain is the body's warning. It's protecting you. Yeah, yeah, totally. Protecting you. It really is. So it's about a guy with that condition.

And he starts to fall in love with this woman and they have this connection and that she gets taken. and it's about his journey to rescue her. And he kind of uses, she gets taken by bank robbers. And he kind of uses this condition to his advantage as kind of a superpower. But like he can still, he won't feel it, but he can still like bleed out and die. So it's a very, it's a very interesting movie. I'm very excited about it. I got to work with the amazing Amber Mid Thunder.

She's my co-star. She's unbelievable. And I get very injured through. throughout that crewed me. And yeah, a lot of stunts, a lot of action sequences that were so well choreographed by our team. And I'm really excited for people to see it. I don't know if I've said way too much about it or not.

No, I think that's most of that's all out there. But to hear your excitement in that if the shoot went well is it went, it showed a little sizzle reel at the rap party. I'm like, okay, this might, I know I'm very biased, but I really, I really enjoy this. Amazing. All right, let's wrap with this. Happy, say I confused profoundly random questions. for Mr. Jack Quaid.

Are you a dog or cat guy? I'm a dog guy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if I cat people. Well, good. That's the correct answer on this podcast. I'm simply like that. That's the way it goes. Do you collect anything?

I do collect chairbacks like for, from movies that I do. Like for, you know, cast chairs. What else do I collect? I collect comic books. I go to my local comic bookstore like every day. And I don't know. if I'm collecting them, I'm just kind of amassing them and consuming them. I'm not like preserving them, but yeah, I'd say I collect comic books for sure.

Who should be booster gold? Should it be you? Should it be Anthony Star? What's, what are we got? Anthony did not react too positively when that rumor came up in our conversation. Really? I mean, it probably should be Anthony. Antony's like incredible, so give it to him. No, you want it. You take everything. I'm not calling shots, Josh. Okay, sorry, sorry. Okay. note a director has ever given you. Worst note, this next take,

it's like you're conducting an orchestra, but everybody's playing different notes. Go. What? I don't know either. I did something. I won't say who it was. Right.

You just absorb it, pretend you know, what you're doing, and then just do the exact same thing again. I mean, you go, oh, yeah, of course. I got you. I got you, buddy. Yeah, I got you. We talked about this in the past,

but last actor you were mistaken for. What's the most recent one? It's funny. I saw the clip of Bill Hader saying that he was mistaken for me. And by the way, throughout that whole clip, he's just like, that guy works out. He's in great shape. I don't.

I mean, I did for this movie. That was about it. But flattered. Honestly, it's him. It's, I don't know. We're just, we're white dudes with similar face shapes, kind of like the slightly deeper set eyes. So it's him, it's Rain Wilson, it's sometimes Joel McHale,

sometimes, yeah, it's just like that squad of men. What a squad. Honestly, great squad. It's a great squad. Happy, say, I confused. Actor that makes you happy. Simon Pegg. And Rose Marie DeWitt.

I got it for two of them. They're just the best. Movie that makes you sad. Movie that makes me sad. Oh, God. Oh, no. I've been watching a lot of movies lately. You know, I just saw, for the first time I just saw whatever happened to baby Jane.

Incredibly sad movie. Just like, man, it didn't work out for these people. Also, I saw Quiet Place Day One. really, really enjoyed it. Also a very sad movie. Yeah, but two great movies. Good double feature. Yeah.

That's the first. Food that makes you confused. We're wrapping up strong. Food that makes you confused. Food that makes me confused. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay.

I don't know if this is so much the food itself, but the way that it's prepared. I once saw a package of jelly beans, and each jelly bean was individual. wrapped in its own plastic. Oh, that's insane. That's mad. What are we fucking doing? This is why the world's going to hell.

That's an environmental crime, A, and I don't want to, I'm a can, I'm a big candy guy. I'm not so much, um, I know I mentioned mudslides earlier. I'm not so much of a chocolate guy. I'm more of like a sour and sweet person, um, but yeah, when I'm having jelly beans, I'm just like, okay, I got a mix and match. I got to combine. I got, it's got to be easy access. I can't be like, can't be like high choose where I'm like disposing of things every now.

It's too much. It's work. It's not environmentally friendly. It's just it checks no boxes. There's nothing. I've never been more confused and upset in my life. It's in a bad mood for a week. Yeah.

It makes me be sad and confused. Never mind. Just sad and confused. Fair enough. All right. I was going to say mudslides next time, but we'll find a non-chocolity alcoholic beverage to get. You of me, Papa Gary, spicy margaritas, let's go. Congratulations, season four of the boys.

One more to go. Bittersweet. I know. It's really surreal. It's insane. But you haven't even shot a frame yet. That's coming up, I assume, in Toronto pretty soon. I haven't shot a frame.

Yeah, that'll be probably the next thing I do. I'm so excited to, I don't know. It's very cool. I know you're wrapping things up, but it is really cool that we get to have a season five final season we're ending it on our own terms like that's such a gift in TV and I'm so excited to make probably one of the most fucked up seasons of television that ever existed probably if it's a show yeah it's like it's kind of the only show that is speaking truth to the crazy times we're living in and the fact that it just is a superhero show so be it but it's so

cathartic and I hope by the time we're shooting that the world is not in a way worse place that it already is. Fingers crossed. Let's hope. Congrats, man, on the new season and all the great stuff. I'll see you in person, hopefully, at a thing that rhymes with Bamak-Bahn soon. See it? Bamak-Bong, 2020.

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