Happy Sad Confused - Jodie Comer, Vol. II

Episode Date: March 30, 2023

Jodie Comer is a New Yorker (at least for the moment) as she makes her Broadway debut in PRIMA FACIE. Here she joins Josh to talk about the play, the controversial ending of KILLING EVE, her upcoming projects, and whether she's joining the MCU. SUPPORT THE SHOW BY SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS! Zocdoc -- Go to ⁠Zocdoc.com/HAPPYSAD⁠ and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today. Many are available within 24 hours. To watch episodes of Happy Sad Confused, subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠Josh's youtube channel here⁠⁠⁠! Check out the ⁠⁠⁠Happy Sad Confused patreon here⁠⁠⁠! We've got discount codes to live events, merch, early access, exclusive episodes of GAME NIGHT, video versions of the podcast, and more! For all of your media headlines remember to subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠The Wakeup newsletter here⁠⁠⁠! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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none of you are safe. New episodes every Wednesday, wherever you get your podcasts. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Today on Happy Say Confused, Jody Comer on the end of Killing Eve and the beginning of a Broadway run. Hey guys, I'm Josh Hart. Let's welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. We got another big one for you guys this week. We taped a live episode of the podcast very recently in New York City, and it was, a big old fun night on the town with Jody Comer, new New Yorker herself. I don't know if she'll be

a permanent New Yorker, but we've got her for the spring, early summer, thanks to her Broadway debut in prima facie, prima facie. I've heard it pronounced every which way. I asked Jody about it and I'm still confused. The bottom line is that's the show. Get your tickets now because it will sell out and she is amazing in it. I'll talk more about that event, this podcast, and Jody in just a second. But first, other news and notes in the Josh Horowitz world. No upcoming events to announce just yet, but we have one locked and loaded already for May that we will be announcing hopefully very soon in New York City and some stuff percolating for April and May. Look, It's a constant, it's a constant juggernaut to try to lock in these live events.

They're always challenging because everybody's schedules are crazy, mine included. So hopefully some new ones will come together because they are always a blast. I want to mention that Dungeons and Dragons actually opens this week and I got a chance to not only see the movie, which is really fun, but do a couple fun interviews for my employers over at MTV and Comedy Central. Over on the MTV side, I got a chance to catch up with Regéjejean page, which is just a fun name to say. And I guess some people say a fun guy to look at. He's kind of attractive. Whatever.

I don't see it. No. Reggajon is awesome, and he's awesome in this movie. Kind of a supporting turn in Dungeons and Dragons honor among thieves, that's the official title, as kind of a straight-waist knight in shining armor. But I think it's a smart move for Regajon being kind of like not having to, be the front and center lead in a big budget movie just yet and kind of stealing a few scenes from the likes of Chris Pine and Hugh Grant.

Yeah, so check it out. He's really fun in it. And we had a great conversation. We've never had like the one-on-one chat. We've done some group interviews over the last couple years, but really got a lot of fun out of just catching up with him. And I'm curious to see what's to come in what's still a very young career. Over on the Comedy Central side, oh gosh, guys, I had a blast catching up with Chris Pine.

If you've watched my Chris Pine stuff in the past, you know we have a very interesting dynamic. It is, I think it's respectful, sometimes contentious, but look, we've been talking for a long time. He's another one of these guys I go back always with, and he has been kind enough to kind of go with the games and the silliness at times, but also have some deeper conversations. He's done everything from the podcast to Comic-Con stuff with me, to stir crazy back when we were doing that at Comedy Central. And sure enough, he came back on my new iteration of my Comedy Central show, the Untitled Josh Horowitz show.

And it was really fun. This is one well worth checking out. I'll put it out on my social media. So if you just follow me on Joshua Horowitz, on Twitter or Instagram, you won't be able to miss it. Or you can just go to Comedy Central's YouTube page. But this one's well worth checking out. It's, like I said, a little contentious.

It's on the edge. Does he hate me? Is he about to walk out? I never know with Chris. But I think he enjoys me kind of poking him, and I certainly do vice versa. So check out our chat. It is a good one. What else to mention?

I actually don't know when my conversation I taped with MTV for MTV, rather, with Nicholas Braun is running, but it must be out or about to be out. That was a blast, too. He, of course, the star of Succession, someone who I had not crossed paths with, but really got along famously with. And I think, oh, I know, based on our conversation and what's come since, we have more in the works. So a new beautiful friendship born with Nicholas Braun. He was very dry and very fun in our conversation about the new and last season of Succession, guys. I know.

Single teardrop falls. Okay. So the main event today was, is Jody Comber's return to happy, sad, confused, and this was a really unique and special opportunity. Jody has been on the podcast before, and she's a delight. She's one of these just beacons of light and sweetness in the universe. and also to boot is kind of just an insanely talented actor. I mean, you know that. You've seen her in a bunch of TV stuff,

not the least of which, of course, is Killing Eve, which kind of rose her name to a whole other level in the industry and just in fandoms around the world. People are obsessed with that show, and I get it. She got a chance to show so many different sides of herself in that. And then since then, her movies are just all ginormous, great movies. She was super charming and fun in Free Guy. She popped up in a Star Wars movie.

She was in the last duel, which more people should have seen, and she was fantastic in. If you haven't checked that out, you certainly should from really Scott, no less. And then you'll get the stuff coming up. I mean, you would be smart to put your money on Jody Comer as one to watch for the next decade and beyond in terms of the great actors of our day. And the proof is in the pudding. her latest work is, again, I'm going to butcher the name or not. I don't know what the correct pronunciation is. Prima facie, prima facie, it's your choice.

Bottom line is this is a play that she performed in London to much acclaim, won some awards over there, sold out over there. It's a one-woman play, and it's intense stuff, guys. I've seen the live version they did for film. I'm certainly going to see it when it starts previews here in New York very soon. It's a journey of a attorney who goes through a sexual assault and kind of changes her perceptions of the system that she is a part of. And, man, she just owns that stage.

It is an intense night of theater, but it will leave, it will take your breath away. It's fantastic. That being said, our conversation wasn't so intense. It was just fun. This is an hour of just delightful chat, of a delightful chat with Jody. We didn't quite sell out symphony space, but man, we pretty. much came close and we had we had many hundreds if not thousands watching and listening around the world live to our conversation and the energy was so great she talks about it all in this

conversation certainly the new play but also going through that unique experience of killing Eve from the beginning to the controversial ending I know this has already gotten a lot of press her first real comments about that ending so if you want to hear what she had to say check it out in this conversation. She also weighs in for the very first time on these big rumors that have been circulating. Is she Sue Storm in Fantastic Four? Is she in Blade Runner 2099? What was it like to be in the new Jeff Nichols movie, which I'm so excited for, the bike riders opposite Austin Butler and Michael Shannon and Tom Hardy and Mike Feist? We break a lot of news in this conversation. It's fantastic. Plus some Shrek chat, chit chat. A surprise guest pops in?

I won't say who, but it's someone very relevant and important to her love of cinema. That's a great moment. So I hope you guys enjoy this. The last thing I will say is you'll hear it in this conversation. It is a live taping, so you'll get the nature of what this sounds like. It's a little different than the normal stuff. We have to cut out the clips for various reasons. You can't use clips like this for podcasts.

So you won't hear the Killing Eve clip in here, sadly, but you will hear her talk about it. It is the infamous, not infamous, but wonderful kind of dance sequence between her and Sandra O, but you'll hear her talk about it. What else is important to say? Note in terms of notes. You'll hear me chastised the audience in a nice way of asking people not to post the conversation on YouTube. And you know what? As I tape this intro, no one has posted it on YouTube. So props to you guys out there. Certainly, yeah, there are a thousand and Twitter clips I've seen, but I haven't seen it and posted in full on YouTube. Now that it might change in the next hour, but for now, I thank you all for your service.

And then, oh yeah, the one last thing I do want to say is this event that we did was a charity event. It raised a ton of money for my mom's nonprofit organization that is so near and dear to her heart and, of course, my heart. It is called Harlem is. And it documents the cultural living history of Harlem. It's heroes. It's leaders. It's unsung heroes. And it's a great website. It's Harlem-is.org. You'll see there's like tons of great material, great photography, great artists featured. But it's like a small, you know, nonprofit. So it needs support. And that's what I've tried to do over the last few years to do occasional benefit versions of the podcast. And Jody was just so sweet to sign up for this. So all of which is to say, we raised a bunch of money, but if you want to check

it out and if you want to donate, that would be sweet, guys. Go to Harlem-is.org, click on the support button, drop $5, $50, a million, whatever it is. I would greatly appreciate it. Trust me, it is going to a great, great cause. Okay, let's get into it, guys. I take you now to our live taping on the Upper West Side of New York with me and the fantastic, the charismatic, the insanely talented, the one and only, Jody Cohn. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the host of Happy, Sad, Confused, Josh Horowitz. Hello, New York. Hi, guys. Welcome to this Happy Sad, Be Sick Confused Live. I am indeed, Josh Horowitz. Thank you so much for coming out tonight.

This is a very special event for many reasons. Welcome to those of you that came out in person. Hello to all of you watching around the world. We've got a worldwide audience tonight, as you can expect. Our guest today has a bit of a following around the world. I do want to make one little small plea that will probably fall on deaf ears. I know you guys are going to try to record this. You jerk. out there. You're going to try and spread it around. Don't record it. Don't spread it around because this is for you guys right now. This will become available as a regular happy, said, confused podcast at some point, but we don't want it ripped in a bad way and whatever. This is for you guys tonight. So if you do me a solid, don't record this. Don't spread it around, please. Thank you.

In addition to this being special, because this is my neighborhood I grew up in, the guest I love. It's also a fundraising event for an organization that's very, very important to me. It's Harlem Is. Harlem.org. I would highly recommend you guys check out this organization that documents the living cultural history of Harlem and documents its heroes. I happen to be a big fan of it for many reasons, not the least of which is that it's created by my mom, Barbara Harrowitz. So, yes, so that's important. But I feel like as much as you love the Horowitz as me and my mom, you're really here. I know why you're here, guys.

Let's be real. My guest tonight is one of my favorite human beings and also one of the greatest actors living on the planet Earth right now. She's, of course, an Emmy. BAFTA winner for her work in a little show called Killing Eve that many of you might have heard of. She's about to make her Broadway debut guys in prima facie. I would highly recommend you get tickets to Prima Fashi immediately if you haven't already because these tickets are going to go quickly. It's an amazing piece of work and we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about all aspects of her career. I want to hear a big warm New York welcome for the one

and only. Give it up for Jody Comer, everybody. Thank you so much. Jody. Welcome to New York, Jody. Thank you. It's so nice to be here. Thank you very much. So you've made the move for Broadway. This is an exciting moment. Thank you for... Okay, so talk to me first.

Have you ever spent, like, a big chunk of your life in New York? Is this going to be, like, the first solid New York moment? Yeah, this is my first solid New York moment. I've always been here for, like, a couple of days for, like, press and work stuff, but I've got, like, three or four months here. So I want to fully amiss myself in the... I want to be a local by the time I leave. Well, I've got some helpful...

Tips. Bill tips and gifts, actually. I've got some gifts for you. Here we go. Here's your New York goodie bag. So I was hoping to get, do you know what Joanne Reed is, first of all? Wait, wait, wait.

That's a pharmacy, right? It is. Okay. She's legit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Walgreens owns Joanne Reed, so that's what this is. Okay. So you've got here, I've got here a Yankee cap for you.

Amazing. I will wear this. Please. I mean, it's a little cliched, But, I mean, look, it's an I love of name. No, you've got to have one of them. You've got to have that. I love New York shirt, of course.

Can you sign this for me? Yeah, I don't think that's going to help the resale value. And most importantly, the best cookies on the planet, have you heard of Levan cookies? Do you know what these are? No. Okay, everyone's a big fan of them. If you get hungry during the show, there are eight cookies in here for you.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Of course. Can I take the bag as well? Yeah, I suppose. Thank you very much. We're falling apart already. So did you visit the states much as a kid?

What was your first understanding? What was your perception of what the United States and New York was growing up in Liverpool? I don't know, but I remember when I first got to L.A. I must have been pressed for Killing Eve, and I'd never really been to America before. And I felt like I was in a video game. Like I remember the yellow school buses, and there was a lemonade stand in someone's front of golf.

And there was a Taco Bell, which made me think of mean girls. So I was like, wow, it's real. It's real. The movies are real. So that was very kind of surreal and sensory. I mean, it's just so big. Everything is so big. Yeah, but you must have spent a fair amount of time

in London growing up. London's pretty damn big in its own right. No? Yeah. Big-ish. Is. Have you spent more time watching Seinfeld? Seinfeld, sex in the city, what's your pop culture perception of New York?

Probably friends. Yeah, friends. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Okay, so let's first talk about what brings you to New York, because this is a really special piece of work. You, first of all, before Prima Fashi came out in London, give me a sense of your theater background. How much work on stage had you done?

Very little. Very, very little. I'd done a play in Scarborough in the Stephen Joseph Theatre when I was like 16. And that was theatre in the round. And that was my first kind of experience of theatre and I loved it. And I didn't do anything anymore after that. Not because I didn't want to, but my experience generally auditioning for theatre roles was, I hadn't been to drama school

so a lot of people felt like I wasn't experienced enough or didn't have a certain level of knowledge or understanding of what the kind of undertaking was so it was very very limited I mean I loved going to theatre I was like such a big musical theatre fan like when I was younger I used to say to my mum I'm like when I'm 18 I'm going to move to London

and I'm going to do a three years musical theatre course and then you can come and watch me on the West End. You know, that was like, that was what I wanted. And then I kind of, I grew a bit and I lost my rhythm and I'm all a bit longer and then dancing kind of fell by the wayside. But yeah, and then, you know, after kind of a lot of rejection, in that sense, I thought, you know what, hopefully I felt that one day I would meet a director or, you know, a group of creatives who wouldn't see it as a hindrance. and I was just so fortunate about when I met Justin Martin, the director of Primer Facey and James

Beerman and Susie Miller, who wrote the piece, they were just like, gosh, anything you need. Like, we will help you. You need movement classes, voice work, anything. Like, you know, they made that accessible to me. Now, for those that don't know

much about this production, this is, you're really diving into the deep end here. This is just you on stage for, what, 90 minutes, 100 minutes. It's a roller coaster of a show. It's about Tessa, who is a, you know, well, I'd like to hear, you tell me. Tell me a little bit about the journey that she goes on in this

and what resonated with you when you read the material for the first time. Yeah, so Tessa is a criminal defense barrister. She's from a working class background. She's from Liverpool. Boop-whoop. She's hugely successful, you know, is very confident in what she does.

really believes in what she does and she is often having to defend men in sexual assault cases and during the play she herself is a victim of sexual assault and she ends up in the courtroom in the witness stand and you know the story kind of explores how her world is turned upside down because everything she's kind of committed her life to is called into question so yeah Did this come, obviously, you had done a much different kind of a thing that deals with some thematics that are similar in The Last Dual, which obviously also deals with sexual assault and in a different time period, but also, you know, shows how some things have not changed, unfortunately, in terms of the way the women are judged and listen to or not listen to. Did one experience bleed into another? Did you find anything from The Last Dual that applied or helped in your approach? You know, they felt so different because usually I would sometimes feel if I've like explored something before, I'd be more inclined to be like, oh, well, you know, I've done that and how can I make it different. But the play felt so unique in a sense of like I felt what was so powerful about the piece and about Tessa's story was that it was all told from her perspective. You know, she had so much control over the storytelling.

and there was something about that that I felt was so different to the last year you know of course the theme and the problem is still very much the same but the execution and the way in which the story was told was very, very different. How do you, I don't know, maintain a sense of self and happiness going through this journey every night

because it's like it's an emotional journey and I'm sure it's very rewarding. I mean, you really connect with an audience in a meaningful way by the end, but it also must put you through the ringer, I would imagine, emotionally. Yeah, well, we would like, as soon as I come off stage, I have a, we basically play music. It's like, and then we're like, oh, you know, it's like, yeah, it's going to be okay. So music is a big thing for us backstage, you know, and I am on stage alone, but there is like an army of predominantly women, you know, backstage who are,

all kind of holding me up and making the show work and also making this play what it is and there was such a camaraderie and kind of sisterhood backstage so it was always just about like you know music I think music's a good thing

it must also like I don't know spoil you for future projects because like the connection again that you must feel in that moment night after night must be something that probably the rest of your career I would imagine you're going to chase. Like, how do I get back to that feeling?

Yeah. And I also, you know, I'd done theater before, but it was a very long time ago, and I remember we hadn't performed in front of an audience yet. It was the first preview. The dress rehearsal went so bad. I was like, oh, no, this is not good. What have I done?

Yeah. But it was the first preview. And I can't really actually remember that performance at all. It was almost like someone was just kind of, carrying me around the stage but I do remember one moment near, you know, towards the end of the play and I won't say too much for people

who haven't been to see it yet, but you know, Tessa speaks very directly to the audience and the lights come up a little bit and I remember hearing like actually makes me emotionally thinking about it like responses from women when they were watching

the play and I don't think any of us were quite prepared for that, you know, like in the rehearsal room you know, you're speaking about a statistic and a one in three and then you're faced with it, you know, and to hear it and feel it was like, you can't compare it to anything else. And I've been told that so often, you know, from other actors because I was also like, well, what is it? You know, everyone speaks about theater as, you know, being so special.

And I'm like, what is it? And it's that thing that you can't replicate on a, it's like the sharing of energy, you know? during the run who visited you, who came backstage, who surprised you? Were there moments you're like, oh my God, you were in the audience? Yeah. I don't really like to know,

because it just freaks me out a little bit. Tom Jones came. All I was thinking was, oh my God, sex bomb, sex bomb. He was wonderful. I very fortunately met Dawn French. He was like an icon.

I'd convinced myself one night as I was acting, I thought I'd seen Elton John with his heart. I was convinced I seen heart-shaped glasses. And I was on stage, and in my head I'm like, say my lines, and I'm like, oh, my God, there's Elton John. He's got his heart-shaped glasses on. And it was, it wasn't him. It wasn't him. So, yeah. You'll be visited by Elton this time around. Hopefully, yeah.

You recently, a belated happy birthday, Jody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. It was a milestone birthday too. Big three-o. Big three-o. I feel like it's going to be good.

I'm excited for my 30s. Do you feel like you got your wild years out of your system in your 20s? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. At what age were you the biggest hot mess? Like where were you the messiest? messiest in your wife.

Oh, God. It, like, ranges from, it's like, like 17 to 21. Oh, wow, for four years. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I'm glad. I know, I'm kind of grateful that they're out the way

because I do think, like, I always think, wow, I wonder if you don't get them out the way when you're younger. They're just down the road. Right. You know what I mean? No, that's true.

It's sadder if it happens later. What about you? When were you a while? years. Mine were actually a little younger even. I skipped a lot of school in my teen years, yeah. But I didn't do anything cool. Like I didn't like hang out with anybody or do anything. I wasn't smoking cigarettes. I was like, what were you doing? Going to the movies. I was like, obviously. Of course. Yeah. What were you doing? Oh, God. Stayed out way too late. Yeah. So let's go all the way back. Okay, we talked about the hot mess years. But growing up,

What would friends and family have said about young Jody? Was she an extrovert? Was it all destined to be? Are people surprised about where you are based on who you were as a kid? I think I was definitely extroverted. We recently watched some baby videos at home. And I was like, wow, it's pretty clear. Yeah.

You know, lots of song and dance and impressions and like me, you know, my mom will be video and my brother. And I'm like, you know, It's just like, just trying to get in. Yeah. I'm like, so there's a lot of that. So I think I was always buying for attention in some way. Did you have, you mentioned being into musicals,

posters in the bedroom as a kid. Do you remember bands you were obsessed with, actors you were obsessed with? What about this? Films you were obsessed with as a kid. As a kid. But to see, the thing, when I was a kid, I wasn't really like a film buff. Okay.

I just, like, I loved Disney. Sure. Home alone. You know, like, when I was a kid, it wasn't like I looked at film as, you know, an art form and something I could be. I wasn't like you, Josh. Home alone as an art film. But it's true, it's true. I know, but I feel like, you know.

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't, I wasn't watching anything, you know, extremely sophisticated. I got you. I got you. And, yeah, and it was only, like, when I got a bit older and. I realized, oh, like, this is actually a profession and these people aren't really these people, and, you know, they made their connection. Is there a film that made you cry the most as a kid? What's the film that's made you cry the most over the years, you think?

Fox and the Hound. Right? Yeah. I say this every interview, but Billy Elliott. Oh, right, Billy Elliott. That's like every time I watch that, I'm like, oh. Jamie Bell's really good in that, don't you think? You know what?

I'm a friend of Jamie Bell's. I want to ask him for a favor. You're like, here he is, everybody. He's not here, but we do have a video. No, you don't. Let's take a look. Jamie Bell. Let's watch.

No, you do. No, you do. Are you kidding me? It's coming. It's coming. You're right, Jodie. You're right, our kid. I'm not going to do it in this girl's accent.

That would be bad. Happy birthday. It's Jamie. I don't think we've actually ever met, ever. But Josh asked to make you do this as a favour to him. Little does he know it was actually a favour to me. Do you remember that script that we were sent that we were maybe going to do together?

what if there was like an extended dense sequence in it just a thought would that twist your arm at all don't think about it now don't answer it now um happy happy birthday i want to wish you the best and i want to wish you every continued success you are certainly one of our most fiercest and bestest and most scousest actors that we've ever had um i wish you the very best josh hello and thank you And Jody, now you owe me a favor, too. So I'll see you at the read-through. Lots of love. Wow.

Thank you. My cheeks are sore. I might be stuck. He's a charmer. Thank you for that. Thank Jamie. I will. I want to see him.

Were you guys going to make something together? Do you know what he's talking about? Yeah. But, you know. You know, as sometimes with these things I've learned, it's like, you can, you know, you can say yes to something in like the January and then you do another job and it's like, schedules change and things don't work out. And it was one of those situations. It wasn't because I was suddenly like, you know what? Actually, no, I don't want to do this.

You know, it's like those things happen sometimes. But yeah, he's not lying. So is singing and dancing in a film still on the list? Yeah. I've been saying this for like, well, like six years or something. I don't know. I don't think anyone's taking me seriously. Have you done like the movie musical audition by now? Do you... Yeah. Yeah, I have. What's the glitch? What's going on? No, no. Say no more. But no, I believe it will happen. It's just the master of time.

Okay. What about the live action Shrek movie? You're a big Shrek fan. I would love that. I don't know. I don't know. even need a live action guys. I just, they're going to bring out like a fifth one soon, right? Right, right. I just want to be a voice. Are you a, are you a purist? Do you like the Puss and Boots movies too or do you like, no, you're more sure. That was really aggressive. No, I just and Tonya Vandaris is very angry right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's more just Shrek. But I would just like to be, I would also love to be, you know, in an animation. Before we get to animation, I have some Shrek trivia for you.

I want to see how well you know Shrek. Oh, no. Because you pretend you're this expert, but a lot of people say they're Shrek experts to get the cool craigs. I don't think you're doing this to me. You're going to expose me from everyone. I have a lot of easy ones. Let's start here. Let's see. Who does Lord Farquad torture in his chamber?

Who does Lord Farquard torture in his chamber? The face with the mirror. No? Oh, they're gasps in the audience. Isn't that? Who? Ginger Madman! Oh, my God! Not the buttons, of course.

Oh, my God. Thank you. What breakfast does donkey love? Josh. I haven't watched it for a while. Can you name the iconic smash-mouth song played in the movie? Wait, this is so... Where does Shrek live?

In the swamp! She did it, she got it, yeah! Wait, what is... Somebody wants to be the world. Just takes a minute, guys. Just takes a minute. That was a journey. I've got to re-watch that.

Now I'm definitely not going to get a part of it. I'm sorry. Look at that, sabotage. Jamie Bell will work with you. Just the TREC community will not. Hey, guys, I want to talk to you about one of our sponsors this week on HappySat Confused. It's Zoc Doc. And this is an important one because when I feel a health issue coming on and I'm looking up my symptoms online, I go down the social media rabbit hole,

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I feel like it always felt like where I was supposed to be, strangely. I never felt intimidated by it, you know. And I think I was actually pretty, as we all are, I think. when, you know, especially when you're younger, you're just so fearless. So, yeah, it always just felt like comfortable. Did you, have you skipped by that inevitable imposter syndrome that comes at a certain point? Like, do you have moments of self-doubt? Yeah.

And does it happen before or during or after? No, it's kind of, it's weird, you know. I'm trying to be a bit better about it. I think sometimes you can't help it, but actually, more recently, I've been catching myself in it and like having a word with myself because I did a film with Jeff Nichols before Christmas called Bike Riders and yes he's incredible

and I just remember having so much fear and being so nervous and I remember one day we were doing a scene and I was like Jeff can I speak to you and he's like yeah yeah and I'm like I'm really scared me too it's fine you know and there's just like a moment of honesty but it's

I'm trying to get better at like stepping into my own power, you know. It's like there comes a point where you have to just own the fact that, you know, you are where you are because you deserve to be there and you work hard and you're generally a good person, like, you know, and accept it. Yeah, but it's tricky. It's hard. So we obviously don't have time to go into every aspect of your career, but I feel like we should. give a little love to this show that some of you might have seen, Killing Eve.

Yes. Okay, so you get the job, you get on set. Are the vibes immediately different, for whatever reason, from the top down, from Sandra, from Phoebe. Did you sense from day one that this, whether it's going to turn out great or not, it's a different kind of a production? Yeah, completely. I mean, I felt that when I read the script, I remember being sent the first episode, and I'd obviously watch Fleabag and was just like, okay, well, Phoebe Waller Bridge is the best thing ever. You know, and we're so curious what she'd do next.

And I remember reading the first episode and being like, wow, I've never read a script like this before, and it just felt so fresh and exciting. And then, you know, to meet the costume designers and the set design and the, you know, Harry Brad Beer, who started this offer as kind of lead director. and then yeah and then and getting to set it just felt very new and it also felt like you couldn't put it into any sort of box you know and and that can also sometimes be a little terrifying because I feel like everyone wants to put something in a box it's this meets that or it's the end yeah so when it isn't it's you know it's the unknown which is actually I think when the most kind of brilliant things are brought to life is when it's you know it's the unknown which is actually I think when it's you know it's you know it's the unknown which is actually I think when it's you know not quite sure what it is. And then, of course, the reception happens, and that's a whole other thing. I mean, it could have been rewarding in its own right, and then it comes and goes, and it's

a season and whatever. Yeah. But, I mean, do you remember when it premiered and when the reviews started to come in and when you start to sense, oh, this is clicking with audiences in a really profound way? I feel like, well, I remember when we went back for season two and we were filming in London, And I remember, you know, they'd just be so, if people noticed those film and there'd be like so many crowds of people, you know, whereas like the first year we were able to just kind of go unnoticed and no one was really bothered. And I remember that response. I remember the Halloween costumes, you know, the fan art. And also like just people, you know, approaching me in the street. You know, I'd never had it that much before. And it was always Villanelle, you know. It was like there was so much enjoyment. Thank you. You know, people were so excited by her and like, oh, she's brilliant.

You know, like, she's so bad that it's good, you know? And I love that because it was always like people were telling me something that they didn't really want to admit to, which is great. I shouldn't say this, but. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so it's so wonderful. And, of course, it works for a number of reasons, and primarily it's that relationship between you and Sandra in the show that works so well. Yeah. Let's look at a clip and talk about it on the other side.

You don't have to watch it. They'll watch it. I'll watch you guys. There's no killing in this. There's just a little dancing. Here's something from Killing Eve. Awesome. Are you leading over my little idea?

Do you want to be like that? Not anymore. Why not? We never make it that long. We consume each other before we got all. That sounds kind of nice. I killed so many people, Eve. I know.

I know. You should go. Why? Take this. I'll meet you later. What is it? Freedom. What's going on?

Our party's getting crushed. Go, Eve. Go. Any memories springs of mine from that particular scene? Yeah, I do. There's a couple of memories, actually. I remember, because I had massive high heels on, that we had to take off.

So me and Sandra were a similar height for the dancing. But what I love about that scene in particular, I remember I kind of had a light bulb moment within this scene of when Villanelle admits to killing so many people and Eva's. So maybe accepting is not the right word, but she doesn't judge and react in a way that she's so often met with. You know, like at that point, if I remember correctly, it's like Villanelle is feeling like she is this awful person

as a result of what she's done. And there's just a moment of stillness. and I remember finding that with Sandra, you know. There's a lot of moments like that that we'd have on set that sometimes we would come to and we'd be like, how are we going to do this, you know? How are we going to find this in a way that feels honest? And I feel like the relationship that me and Sandra had,

it was like so trusting that we always did, you know? It always kind of fell into place. And it was a lovely kind of calm moment in between all the craziness. Are you, did you guys burn each other's numbers after the show ended? Are you still in contact? No, we still got each other's numbers. Okay, good, good, good. But it's like, you know, you do a job for so long and then, you know, you part ways.

It's the nature of the business. Yeah, it's something you have to get so used to, yeah. Do you, did you ever imagine becoming a fashion icon, a style icon, being in the cards, thanks to Villanelle? I mean, that her many looks, the iconic. wardrobe really set her apart from the crowd clearly. Yeah. I mean, she's the style icon. I'm like a t-shirt jeans trainers kind of girl. But no, it was

remarkable actually. I mean when you know you think back to like the Molly Goddard moment with the pink dress it was just like it was crazy and it was amazing and also you know I think that that was like Molly's first collection and it that hadn't come out yet and you know Phoebe Gay or costume designer I found it, you know, and sourced it, and it was her idea. So, it's so great when you work with people who are so creative and, you know, kind of one step ahead of everything.

It's been a while since you've murdered someone on camera. Do you miss it? Do you feel... Wait, was that reaction before I said the on-camera part? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It has been a while. Yeah. Do you think you still have the muscle on you? Do you think you'll be ready when the duty calls? I think so.

Yeah, I think so. We were talking about muscle memory before. Maybe it's like, one of them, it just comes back to you. Right. Yeah. Jody annihilates the room. She's like, I know how to do that. I've done that before.

Still got it. Yeah. Look, since the finale of the show, I don't know if you've chatted about it, but obviously it got a big reaction from the audience. That was mixed. That was very mixed. Being diplomatic. I know I've seen it. We've all seen it all.

Where were you at on the finale? I mean, did you anticipate the reaction from the mixed reaction from the crowd, from the fans? I mean, I did anticipate a mixed reaction because I think that, you know, we have such an incredible fan base. And, you know, you've all lived with this show for such a long period of time that it almost feels impossible, you know? Like, it was tricky, you know, to dictate what would feel right or what people would believe was right for the characters. I don't like thinking of her floating around the River Thames. So,

I think she crawled out. Or like, yeah, maybe she's been like reborn and now she's having to deal with her like past life karma. I don't know. But was there a discussion at the time of like, can we shoot a little more? Can we maybe give it out?

Can we, or was it just sort of this is what it is going to be? It's hard because it's like, you know, you don't always have the episodes like in advance like we read on that show you know you're really kind of working right up to the you know the kind of final hour

so yeah there wasn't really like oh why don't we shoot this option and then you know try something different but it's tricky you know and you want the fans to be satisfied and feel like you know the characters came away with what they deserve but yeah

Was there for you a period of mourning after the show? I mean, you devoted, you know, a few years of your life to this, and it changed your life in many respects. Was it tough to kind of, like, come out of it and, like, get back to work? Or did going back to work kind of help? Yeah, I feel like I had my moment of morning on set because you know the scene on the boat? They know the scene.

Whatever you're about to say, they know the scene. The scene on the boat at the wedding where Sandra's dancing. in the crowd yeah and um and i was off camera oh there's a shot where i was on camera as well actually but i was just watching her dance and the music was on and i had this moment where i was like so like it hit it hit me in that moment where i was so emotional i was like i'm not sure this is quite right for the character but this is how i'm feeling um so yeah i feel like i had a real moment there and that's where we wrapped actually we wrapped on that boat um so i feel like i'd have kind of little like bittersweet moments on set, you know, like kind of witnessing it and like

feeling so grateful and how brilliant it's been and how fun it's been. It also must have been and continues to be mixed with such excitement because, you know, coming off of that and obviously your career had been going very well prior to Killing Eve, but like what that demonstrated you could do has offered you so many exciting new opportunities. I mean to look at the film work you've done. And basically Free Guy was the first film you did, which is crazy to think that, let's see, so you've done

Free Guy, a huge hit, a giant Ridley Scott film, which was fantastic, the last duel. You pop up in a Star Wars movie. You've got, I mean, like, you're operating. I had a day free. Well, you know. But like, I guess

did you know kind of like what opportunities you were looking for in the wake of Killing Eve? Like, did you have a plan? Or was it more of like acting on instinct and what does it continue to be in terms of how you choose your roles? Yeah, I think it's always it's always instinct

you know and it's about the material and what kind of like emotion it provokes in me. You know, I just feel like when you read something you either feel really compelled or you don't and I always just run with that, you know, I think your gut never

lies. You know, but I was so like I'd always wanted to do a period drama and I was like, Ridley Scott would like speak to you. I'm like, oh my God, okay. You know, and also, you know, to work with Sean Levy and Ryan Reynolds on this kind of huge blockbuster, which was so much fun. And actually, I think the perfect introduction to film, because I was, you know, done a lot of television and, you know, I feel like I remember someone saying to me once, oh, you know, don't too much, don't do too much telly because, you know, then you'll be a TV actress and you won't do film. And

I think something about that stuck in my head. I mean, of course, it's not true at all. And there's such a crossover now between those two worlds. But I feel like Free Guy was a very kind of nurturing and fun and playful way to kind of step into the film world. Yeah, I mean, if you're going to work on that scale, surround yourself with, like, nice, decent, cool people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has Mariah Carey ever gotten back to you on your performance? Have you that in the review?

No. I haven't asked. I remember when they were like, we want you to sing this. I'm like, what? It's a Mariah Carey song. But it was fun. It was fun. We recorded it in L.A.

No, I can't remember the name of it. Like in a studio. That very famous studio in L.A. Yeah. I remember when I was speaking to you, I think, prior to doing the last duel, you admitted to me that you'd never seen Goodwill hunting. Did I? Yeah.

Do you know what? I watched that for the first time in Boston. When I got to Boston for free guy, I was like, I'm going to watch Goodwill Hunting. It feels like the place to watch it. I should see what all the hullabble is about, right? And then obviously I worked with Matt, and he has this most incredible anecdote

about the film with Robin Williams when he talks about his wife, Farn and Hesley. It's so good. He improved it, apparently, and you can actually see the camera guy, like, shaken because they were all laughing so much. Amazing. What do you, I mean, look, the, I love The Last Duel.

It is a great production, one of Ridley's best films, which is saying a lot, I think. And to work opposite, Adam Driver, who's kind of the best thing going. I mean, talk to me a little bit about what that set felt like. I mean, Ridley's sets are so visceral. They are, they're not, he's not working on green screen. You're there. No, no. I mean, it's remarkable, you know, that every set looks like a painting and the way in which he works is, like, you get

a set and the cameras are, you know, set, lighting is set, like, everything is ready for you to go, you know, it's incredibly immersive, and he, more often than not, films with, like, four or five cameras, so it very, it feels like theater in a way, in a sense of, like, it's very live, and there's no, like, oh, I'm going to wait and hold my acting for when the camera comes and turns around on me. Not that, you know. That's what you do, generally. Yeah, yeah, like, I'm going to give them nothing until it turns around. When is it my turn, guys? You know, but it just forces everyone to be super present.

And yeah, and the locations were incredible. And just the scope of it was huge, you know. And I felt like, I felt, I didn't have imposter syndrome on that, strangely. I felt ready. Yeah, I felt ready. I was like, I felt confident. Yeah. And then we come to, I know you're a huge Star Wars fan.

Yeah. Well, I was a Shrek fan apparently So, you're raised mom For those that don't know That's her name Still doesn't have a name No, no, no, no, no Have you met Daisy Ridley, your daughter?

I did on the day, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very briefly It was actually their last day filming And me and Billy, we were just in there for one day Like one afternoon, it was very surreal You know, you kind of like ushered in And everyone was, like, about to rap and was, you know, getting ready to go. And we're like, so it was very quick. But again, like, to be in a studio and, God, see the prosthetics and the makeup.

And again, just, like, the art that goes into creating a film. Like, that was so cool. But did you give up your Star Wars eligibility card for just, like, little one-day cameo, Jody? Was this the right move? I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. Okay.

Did you ever see the movie? I think I made a mistake? No, no. No, the Shrek thing might have been a mistake. I want to think about this all night now. I'm going to be like, oh my God. I do want to mention a more recent work that was kind of a full circle moment, I would imagine for some reasons, was Help, which was a production. Yeah.

Oh, thank you. Thank you. It's a great piece of work and also a full circle moment, because I know Stephen Graham was important in your life, wasn't he? Yeah. introduced me to my agent, Jane Epstein, who I'm with now. I did like a little job with him in Liverpool when I was like, I think I was like 17. And he, long story short, he basically very kindly introduced me to Jane and it was on signing with Jane really that I was then kind of in, you know, different rooms and auditioning for different things. And that's when things kind of

started to pick up. And he's incredibly generous. You know, I'm not the only person he's kind of taken under his wing in that way and he's such a huge supporter of you know unknown talent and giving people opportunity so I yeah I owe a lot to him and for this specific production which of course

a pandemic era of thematic film and one that was demanding and intense and there's like a 26 minute unbroken shot in there which I mean as an actor is that like is that exciting for you like to like oh to immerse yourself

and be like, I'm going to get to play through this. It was. It was. And I remember because we, when we started filming it, we'd just gone into like the third lockdown in the UK. And it'd just been announced. And we were like, we don't know if we're going to be able to shoot, you know. And Mark Mund and our director, he really loves rehearsal. And up until that point, I was always.

And Stevens was the same, you know. We were very much like, just leave it to the moment. You know, what will happen will happen. And, you know, I was always kind of against rehearsal, in a way, probably because I'd never really done a lot of it. And that was so invaluable, you know, like for those moments where you're doing like a, you know, 15-minute take. And it's like choreography, you know, and you want to make sure that you're on your mark for the DOP and the sound up. You know, it's like you'll have to kind of work as a team. But it was incredibly rewarding, you know, when you get those moments.

And I think it really creates an energy within the film, you know. It's like you don't get a moment to stop and not. Neither does she. And it's almost, that's the same with Prima Facy, you know. I think she isn't able to come up for air and neither is the audience, you know, until that final moment. So it's like they're kind of experiencing what she is in a way. You have a very busy upcoming schedule. You've shot a couple very exciting projects.

there's some other things that you might be doing. So I want to ask you about a couple of these. You're working with some of my favorite human beings. Benedict Cumberbatch you've worked with on the end we start from. Which again sounds like a pretty intense piece of work based on a book. Are you producing this one? You're producing a bunch of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So. Yeah, thank you. It's great. It's such a luxury, you know, to be able to be a part of like the creative story. Sorry, guys, I keep like putting my back to you. I'm so sorry. you know to be able to be a part of the creative process so early on you know and be a part of those conversations

and also listen to other people's opinions I more often than not like you know sit on zooms and people will bring up you know thoughts and I'm like oh yeah that's actually a really good thought I didn't think of that you know you're laying a lot I would imagine also a part of producing is creating helping foster environments that you want to be a part of and you probably you know in your career you've seen the good the bad and the ugly of how sets are run yeah and you're want to create something that's is good for everybody definitely definitely but I

think more often not know my experience has been has been good in regards to how how sets are run yeah so can you talk to me a little bit about what drew you say this particular book what's yeah well it's a it's a book by Megan Hunter called The End we start from Mahalia Bello is directing it you know and it's it's about a woman who she gives birth at the start of the film while London is simultaneously hit with flooding, you know. So it's, you know, it's kind of set within a climate crisis but is essentially a very intimate story about motherhood and mother nature and the kind of will and power that both of those things hold. Baby in every scene

almost. Yeah. So I knew that that was going to be tricky, you know, and because I think a lot of People go, oh my God, baby in every scene, they think of time, money, you know, and that's true. Like, it's tough, but then, like, whenever the baby's on screen, you're just like, because they're so honest. They're not trying. They're not trying. We're going to have to be real because that baby is real. Yeah, like, you know, even when you act with small children and I had a moment on bike riders with Jeff, and I was like, you're not even going to want to be on me. Like, when you turn around and see what this kid's doing, it's like, because it's so real.

And there was, you know, when I spoke to Mahalia, you know, she really wanted to depict the motherhood in an honest way, and she was really passionate about that. And I was, I found that really, really interesting. And I was a big fan of her. So, yeah. I'm also just excited because I feel like you are the two arguably greatest chameleon actors. Benedict can do every voice, every impression, every accent. And we know from your work, you're no slouch in that department either. I try. Did you ever do an impression off, an accent off with Benedict? No. Because if not, then I'm going to stage it on the press tour, okay? Okay. Okay. The bike riders.

We were talking backstage about this, because this is my group of people. Come on. Michael, Shannon, Austin, Butler, the great Tom Hardy, Jeff Nichols is directing. Mike Feist, Damon Harriman, Norman Redis. So this is 1960s. This is a what, a biker club in the Midwest. Yeah, a motorcycle group in the Midwest and the film spans over a decade

and the film essentially follows the members throughout those decades and what starts off as quite an intimate relatively innocent group becomes very much like a gang culture and things get out of hand but I play Kathy who I love very very dearly

and she's a member of the group through her husband Benny and what I loved about her was like She's such a fantastic storyteller. You know, I had the, it's based on a, sorry, a book of photographs from Danny Lyons. And so I had images of her, and I fell in love with her. And then Jeff was like, I have 30 minutes of audio of interviews with her.

And she's just a fantastic storyteller. And her voice was so particular. So I've really tried to get as close to it as I possibly could. So yeah. So here comes the time. as part of the conversation, stuff you haven't shot yet. Big Swiss. Yes, yeah, yeah. I can't really say anything about that. Other than if you haven't got the book already, you should definitely get the book. It's in development, you're trying to... Yeah, it's super early, but I basically, I, very fortunately,

like, unplanned, had a bit of time before I started the play, and I got sent the book as a PDF, and I started reading it, and I was like, cannot put it down, cannot put it down. And then, yeah, there was like a huge bit of war. And we got it. But it's in development, you know, it's early stages. No casting yet, nothing to speak of. Very, very early, but incredible book, yeah. You can probably say a lot about, are you a big Marvel fan, by the way, Jody?

No. I think I know where this is going. We're familiar with the Fantastic Four, Jody Comer. I am now after the last year. Have you heard of this lady named Sue Storm? Yes, I have. Have you ever met Kevin Feigey or spoken to Kevin Feigey, Jody Comer? No.

Okay. No, guys, I don't know any in the both of us. I feel like when I say this, people are like, okay. It's like you can't win. You can't win. No. Would it be of interest? Is that potentially dipping your toe into that world, committing to that kind of long-term?

I think never say never but like right now not no okay but I think never say never right you know I think as I as I you know as I said before like usually when you finish one project you then want to try something very different so I don't know maybe so it's not going to be announced like next week and then I'm going to realize that you're lying I've been lines yeah okay much my actor you'd be like wow her acting is that good she is good she really is the real deal one more rumor going around Oh, God. No, serious.

Blade Runner. There is a Blade Runner TV series. Do you know anything about this? Guys, you have to realize these people just make this stuff off. I'm not kidding. You've heard this rumor though, right? Blade Runner 2099.

Yeah, because people ask me, but honestly, I don't know anything about it. Okay. That would combine two of my great love is Blade Runner and Jody Comer. I know. I hate to disappoint. Okay.

Should I go? It's already yet. You should do it. No, no, you should do that. Skip the Shrek stuff and do Blade Runner. You be my new agent. Yeah, no, that's a recipe for disaster.

All right, let's do some, we got a ton of questions from you guys. We're going to do some of your questions, okay? Let's see what happens. What is your favorite way to decompress after working on projects with such a heavy subject matter? You mentioned music. Yeah, music, a good hot bath, a holiday, if I can. I went away with my mom, which was really beautiful. So a better quality time with family.

But yeah, mainly a bath, honestly. Okay. Yeah. This is a tough one. Emmeline wants to know who's your favorite character you've ever played and why. Is it always the most recent character? I feel like that's what actors often say to me, like the one they just finished playing. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I'm in this, you know, really kind of special moment with Tessa right now.

And, you know, it's interesting because obviously I got to revisit Villanelle. And I feel like I've grown so much as a woman. actually since the first run in London in the Harold Pinter. So I'm so interested as to how she now evolves with me. You know what I mean? Not that I'm going to change anything drastic. But you know, it's just interest and you're at a different point in your life. And yeah.

Favorite part about New York City so far? Favorite part about New York City? Just basically following all the dogs around. So if you see me following you, I'm sorry. but like I'm obsessed with how attractive New York dogs are. They like the, you know, we were, we were speaking about this before. I was showing her some photos of my dog, obviously. Yeah, we were having a dog chat.

So I think, yeah, that's been my, that sounds weird. I mean, better to follow the dogs than the people. Yeah, you know. Yeah, although I'm now realizing that it's probably not a good thing to do. Probably phase that one out. If you could play any role previously played by someone else, What role would it be in why? Oh, God.

None. I feel like everyone, you know, when you watch something, everything is so... It's ingrained. It is what it is. Yeah, it's tricky. I don't know. Okay, that's okay. Similarly, magic wand, you can have your dream role tomorrow.

What would it be? I guess we talk musicals, but is there a specific... These are the tough ones. Mine were easy. Pardon? Mine were easy. My questions. These are the tough ones. I know. Go ahead. You can pass. It's okay. Sorry.

Favorite part of the job. What's the favorite? What's the favorite? Is it before? Is it the research? Is it actually being in the moment on set? Being in the moment. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think, you know, I think that's like, you know, more oftentimes than not the moment where you actually surrender. And that's what it's about, you know, when you come home from a film and day or from the theater and like when you genuinely feel like, oh, I figured something out there or I feel. fulfilled and um you know and then but that's the beautiful thing about theater is like it's experienced there and then and you feel what the audience is is feeling whereas like sometimes it's tricky you know if you do a film or television series and then then it becomes something else entirely and people have form their own opinions and say whether it was good or not and you have to let go of it so I feel like it's always the moment on set that's you know that's when it's yours and yeah yeah exactly it's personal

Do you have any pre-show rituals when you're on stage? I have many, but I don't... Are you superstitious? Is it like local? Maybe I am. What is it? I don't know. It just feels like a very private moment, you know? It's nothing crazy, don't get me wrong. It's probably what everyone does. She stares at dog photos of other people's dogs. No, again, music. Again, I have like music, because I used to get quite, you know,

when you hear the audience kind of coming in, so I am more often than not play some music. beforehand. But yeah. Favorite, we're back to New York City. Favorite New York City food. So yeah, you're going to be here a few months. What are you going to exploit that we have in our fair city? I haven't had a bagel yet. I need to go, where can I get a really good bagel? S.A. Bagel's good. I think Esa bagel's a good one. H&H. Well, I'll get you a list. We'll get you a list. We'll get you a list.

I need a good bagel. Yeah, you're in the right spot. for that. We were talking about pre-show warm-up. What about this? Is there an acting exercise, warm-up technique that you find helps you? Well, I mean with the play, like it's all about

warm up, you know, and I think I really had the newfound appreciation when I was doing it of like wow, your body is an instrument and you have to take care of it. And so there's a lot of vocal warm-ups, a lot of kind of like just stretch. I get to like the theater to like you know, some half an hour earlier or whatever and do all my

you know all that all that kind of stuff you have to get over yourself like at first you're like oh god it's all a bit weird and then by the end of it you're like I need to warm up yeah exactly

yeah yeah I mean like when for the run when you're on stage like are you living like a monk like can you like enjoy life like or you kind of just devoted 90% of your body and mind to it's tricky

because I really feel like I haven't got that balance quite right Like, you know, when I went into the play, the first time, I was actually very fearful and, you know, I think there was, had to be an innate part of me that believed I could do it, otherwise I wouldn't have said yes, you know, but I think, you know, surface level was just like, hope I don't mess this up. I've, you know, you know, I hope I can kind of follow through with this. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Megan wants to know, what was the most challenging acting

skill you had to adapt from screen acting to stage acting? What was the most challenging? I guess adapting, you know, I've had this conversation with many actors over the years. Like, is there a difference in your mind between acting for a camera? Oh, yeah, yeah. Projection, using your voice, you know, I think. And also your body. Like, I suddenly was like, oh, yeah.

Like, when you're on set, more often than not, you know, they'll be in a close-up and you can have your own boots on. and you know you maybe not be aware of what your hands are doing entirely but when you're on a stage it's like every part of you is you know

emitting an emotion and telling the story and especially you know for the people who are right up the back in the balconies so that was something I really had to kind of I guess become more aware of and honing on yeah what it this is um

sorry I can't Tisa Tira What advice do you wish you had gotten during the beginning of your career? Or what advice would you give any aspiring young actress? I would say, don't take note for an answer. You know, I feel like, especially, you know, like kind of speaking about the play and, you know, I think believing in yourself, like always having that kind of self-belief because you will be told no more often times. than not and you know if someone says you can't do theater because you haven't been to drama school

okay you know maybe the stars may need to align and you may need to meet people who are patient enough and willing enough to help you but like it isn't impossible you know so don't don't take no for an answer are you yeah do you um do you watch a lot film tv wise what's your yeah yeah what are you latest obsessions, TV or film. White Lotus. Yeah. Obviously. It's the best job for an actor.

You get to go on vacation, basically. I know. They look like they have the best time. I was obsessed with that recently. What else have I watched? I haven't been watching an awful lot of TV, actually. I watched Close recently, which is a beautiful film. Oh, yeah.

Well, yeah. I can't think of anything TV, guys. All right, so we're going to end with my profoundly random questions for you. You ready? This is the happy, second, fused, profoundly random question here. Okay. Dogs or cats. Dogs, dogs, dogs. You told me you're a hoarder once. What do you hoard? What do you, what do you collect? I'm not, I like, I'm not a hoarder. You said, I have it on tape. It's literally. No, I like, I just like things.

You know, like, if you see like a shell or a leaf or a stone or something. Like, I don't know. I make things mean something. Like, I'm just like, I collect little things. I'm like, oh, I'm going to, you know, that's going to remind me of that moment. Right. So, like, things that you don't need, basically. Do you collect stuff from set?

Like, do you have, like, momentous from, no? No. No. No, just, like, it's from, like, the street or the park. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fan art? Have you collected any of the fan art over the years? There's a lot out there. Well, there's so, yeah, well, I've, like, I mean, I post, when I first got Instagram as well with the show, like, I posted so many because they're just so, so brilliant.

I mean, it's incredible. Like, also, you know, some of the stuff that I get sent to sign. It's just, my dad loves it, actually. Really? Yeah, my dad often sends me links. He's like, have you seen this? So my dad's a big fan. What's the, what's the wallpaper on your phone? Clouds. But it's like, yeah, clouds. But not like generic clouds.

Specific clouds. Like it's kind of like the cosmos cloud. The cosmos, but even the cosmos. I don't know, it's like, I don't know. I'm sweating. It's okay, it's okay. What's your favorite adult beverage? Um, depends on the mood, really.

Okay. You're happy and want to celebrate. and want to celebrate. Margarita, gin and tonic, pint of beer. All at once. Back to that. Just one of those hats

with the cubs on the side. You're classy that way, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Harry Potter or the Rings? Harry Potter, I think. Yeah. Don't ask me Harry Potter question. And here's the trivia.

No, no. Such a poser. Would you ever skydive? Yes. I would, actually. All my family did it. earlier this year. I couldn't for film it, but they all did it. And they sent me the pictures and one, some of them are hilarious, but also like, I'd never seen them look so alive. I was like, I have to do this. But I've not done it, yeah. Tattoos, yes or no?

On myself or other people? Yeah, do you want to tattoo me? No. No, no. I don't have any. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not interested. There's not a dream tattoo. That's one day. Oh, no, no. Okay. No. What's the worst note you can get from a director? Not that this has ever happened, but I always imagine it's like, could you just do better? Would be brutal. But you know what is a good note?

Like I said this to Jeff as well when playing Kathy on bike riders because she is very quite eccentric in a sense of, she says exactly what she thinks and also just the tone of her voice and the way in which she speaks. I thought, oh, there's a danger. of doing too much with this, you know, so, and I was very aware of that, and I trusted Jeff so much, and, you know, I remember saying to him, just tell me if I'm, you know, if I'm doing too much. So sometimes if a director comes in and goes, just, just do less. And you're like, you're like, oh, less, okay. So that can be the worst, but is the best note you can get, actually, I think. Yeah. Do you have any pet peeves on set? Like what?

lateness yeah people showing up late yeah um she was early today so just so you know it was so early you were um what app do you check too much um god instagram Spotify love Spotify um not that I check that but I'm on it but I'm on it it's got to be Instagram hasn't it yeah yeah uh in the spirit of happy say confused what's an actor who's an actor that makes you happy an actor that makes me happy I feel like whenever I watch Woody Harrelson I'm always like

he seems happy yeah it's infectious Jamie Bell your new best friend we touched on this earlier but movie that makes you sad you had said that it was a fox in the hound I guess

and finally what's the food that makes you confused? It's not really a food, it's a condiment. Continue. Wasabi. Whoa. Is it the spice? Okay. That was personal for a lot of people.

Yeah, I'm a little upset. I'm a little sad. It's like a lot. It is a lot. That's the point. But even like the tiniest bit is too much. I know, it's awesome that way, yeah. I think that's what I'm most confused by. Okay. I'm not, yeah, yeah.

But yeah, like cream cheese and sour cream, you're fine with that kind of... Yeah, fine, fine, fine, fine. How do you feel about beans? I'm fine with beans. I don't like beets. I'm not into beats. Oh, beets. Anywho, okay.

Well... I feel like I'm going delirious to you. Yeah, I think so too. No adult beverages tonight. night. But this felt like a psychiatric session in some ways. We cracked her wide open for you guys. I feel like I mangled the name, but I thought I had heard it pronounced differently. Give me the correct pronunciation of the play. Well, you can say it a multitude of ways. I remember, I say prima facie.

Then I'm going to say prima facie. Yeah. On YouTube, though, there's an actual video that I searched before it got announced. I was like, I have to get this pronunciation right. And it's like a two-minute video of like 200 people saying it every different way. So you say, however you want to say, Trish. No, I'm saying it your way. Prime of Facy. Previews begin in just a couple weeks. It's a limited run.

Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you. I haven't seen it live. I will be front and center because I can tell already just even seeing it. Not right at the front, though. No, I'm going to be right front and center with a hat with the beer and the margarita on it with a big thumbs up. That won't be distracting.

No, but it's a truly special piece of work. And hopefully, you guys, if you have the opportunity, get your tickets now, because I'm sure it's going to sell out. A couple thank yous and notes before we end this great night. I do want to just encourage you guys. Look, again, Jody said such an immediate yes when I asked her for this favor to help raise money for my mom's organization. By the way, my mom is here tonight.

What's your mom's name? What's your mom's name? Barbara. Jody, you should know. my mom has not been in person to any of my events yet. This is the one she came out for. I feel honored. I feel honored.

So check out Harlem-dash-is.org. If you're feeling generous, make another contribution. But thank you all so much for coming out and supporting that great organization tonight. I want to thank Symphony Space. They put on amazing events. Check out the schedule. They've got a great spring coming up.

I want to thank Ricky Weiss and Warren Bradshaw for helping me prepare for this ginormous, confusing. human being that I had to get ready for. I want to thank the fans around the world. I want to thank the fans that came out in New York tonight. And most importantly, I want to thank our new New Yorker. Hopefully, shall stay a while.

Give it up one more time for the one and only Joan Comer. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, right, to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't pressured to do this by Josh.

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