Happy Sad Confused - John Boyega, Vol. III

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

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tried to tell Ray before I went down. There was a couple of takes where I just said it. I'm a jelly! There was a couple, but it was good to tease. Seriously? Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, you didn't know Finn was Force sensitive? No, I knew that, but I didn't know you actually said. Yeah, yeah. So I wanted to say it. I mean, when they're going down into the quicksand. But I appreciate JJ for, you know, putting those Easter eggs in there and trying to expand. so that if there is ever a revisit to Finn, there is stuff to play with.

Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Hey, guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Again, if you're watching this on YouTube, there she is, my beloved sleeping dog. She only sleeps 12 to 19 hours a day. Lucy. Anyway, today's main event is John Boyega, returning champions of the podcast.

uh this is a blast lots of star wars talk lots of energy taped live in chicago very recently um more to come on john in just a second but i want to give you guys some updates on many other cool things going on in my happy say confused universe as always check out our patreon give it a whirl because we have lots of really cool discounts early access opportunities to ask questions to uh to guests of the podcast all over there patreon.com slash happy, say I'm confused. All right, I'm going to run down the upcoming events because there's a lot going on. New York, just a couple days away, Wednesday, May 14th.

Do I have that right? Yes, May 14th. This is off top of my head. Tony Gilroy talking about Star Wars and or I have just finished the season. I love Andor. I'm so happy to say that because, look, I've had some mixed feelings about recent Star Wars stuff. I'll be honest.

Andor, some of the best Star Wars ever. Full stop. And this season really, really satisfying. If you haven't watched it yet, do so. Anyway, Tony Gilroy is going to join me for a deep dive into Andor. I have never chatted with him before. I have such admiration for this guy. He wrote and directed Michael Clayton.

He can retire just on that. But this is going to be a fun one. Link is in the show notes for your tickets. Then, again, I'm going to sound like this is going to be hyperbolic. I'm so excited. I am so excited, though. Maybe my most anticipated film of the year is, 28 years later, the very long in the making, waiting sequel to 28 days later, June 1st, New York

City, Jody Comer, Aaron Taylor Johnson, and Danny Boyler, all joining me live on stage at the 92nd Street Y. Get your tickets now, guys. I think this is going to be a packed house. We're going to show some sneak peaks at this very anticipated film. I mean, I don't need to sell you on this, do I? This is one of the great filmmakers of our time, two of our great actors. You guys know how I feel about Jody and Aaron is always a gem. He's been on the pod a couple times. This is going to be a special night. June 1st, 28 years later, get your tickets now.

Then if you're always saying, Josh, where's the love for us folks on the West Coast? I have something for you. Finally, we're returning to Los Angeles and we're bringing out a big gun. June 3rd, Gary Oldman. Let's let that sink in for a second. and I'm going to let it sink in for myself. Gary Oldman, I love Gary Oldman so much. I mean, before all of this,

when I was just a nerdy little kid, I was obsessed with Gary Oldman, true romance and JFK and Bram Stoker's Dracula and Air Force One. The man is one of the all-time greats. He's joining me again. He's been on the pot a couple times. This is going to be a live event. June 3rd, 7 p.m. at the Fine Arts Theater.

It's a beautiful theater in Beverly Hills. We shot with Tom Hiddleston there last year. Tickets are now on sale. As always, all the information is in the show notes. Get your tickets now. If you get a tier one seat, like the best seats in the house, we're giving you a special free, collectible, limited edition poster. It's going to be a fun special night.

Gary Oldman, I mean, he can, yeah, I don't even know what to say. I'm so excited about that one. More events will be announced soon, but that's enough for now. All right, John Boyega, what you're about to see or listen to, is a conversation I recorded with him in Chicago, live on stage at C2E2. They were very nice to invite me and John to do a bunch of stuff there, including this podcast taping. There's a lot of audience questions towards the back half of this and a lot of Star Wars talk.

Of course. We're at a big convention. It's John Boliega. Of course, we're going to talk Star Wars. And I love John. He is a straight shooter. He's positive. He's smart.

He's talented. He's all the things. And there's some really cool. stuff about his origins with Star Wars. I mean, he's a big old nerd. He's a bigger nerd than I am, honestly. He knows the games and the extended universe better than I do.

So if you love Star Wars, you're going to love this chat with John Boyega. Here it comes. Enjoy it. Taped at C2E2, just a few weeks back, live on stage. Enjoy. Please put your hands together and welcome our moderator. He's

the host of the HappySack Confused podcast. Give it up for Josh. Horowitz! Hey guys, hello, Chicago. How's it going? Hi, Suu, E2. My name is Josh Horowitz. I host a podcast called Happy Say I Confused.

And lo and behold, you guys are inside the podcast right now. We're taping this for Happy Say I Confused. So thank you for coming out tonight, today, Chicago. We have a hell of a guest here with us today. Maybe you know our guest today from, I don't know, Attack the Block, maybe. They cloned Tyrone, maybe. I feel like I'm missing something else, though.

There's some other property he's been a part of you might. Oh, yeah, he's the star of Star Wars, too. Please give a warm Chicago welcome to the one and only the legend himself, Mr. John Boyega! How you doing today? How's you doing today? How's everyone? Woo!

If only you were comfortable in this environment, John. Oh, very much so. Just relax for a second. You know, when you see the Star Wars fans all the time, so seeing them face-to-face is always a blessing, man. It's cool. We were saying before, you were here in Chicago a few years back. years back, there was Star Wars celebration was here. So yeah, for those opportunities to meet

the fans. I mean, that's not why you like sign up to be an actor, but it's a nice perk of the job. What's it been like to go to these cons over the years and kind of see the folks face to face? You know, it's really amazing because fan relation can be distorted by, you know, articles and social media. It's the only way you really get to connect or see how the fans are are feeling but the cons are more intimate there you get to get to meet each individual everybody has their different opinions and stuff they want to say and I like that I like getting into conversation face to face because there's more of a understanding between you and the fans I love it do they ever give you like a hot take to your face did they ever like say all the time I mean you know I keep

it honest with with my conversation so I feel like people come up to me and go hey man you you know we need you back in a few Star Wars movies if you can You get a lot of that. People have spoken. So when you're growing up, did you go to anything like a con? Was a sci-fi convention ever in your life, a comic convention? Yeah, but it was quite small. It was like small cons, Pokemon card collector cons.

Guys, yeah. Yeah, I had to bring my shinies down, you know, get some stuff signed by the voiceover artist from the past shows. So, yeah, the cons has been a big part of my nerd life growing up. Did you ever get an actor's autograph? Is it a faux pot on set to be like, hey, I mean, we're colleagues, but would you mind signing this poster? Oh, yeah. Have you seen my full Harrison Ford exclusive action figure that I got?

Yeah, as you do. Everybody else was trying to be very professional, and, you know, let's not ask Harrison Ford for an autograph. Let's not ask Carrie Fisher for our autograph. I have shame. I went. said, can you please sign my action figure? Because you just never know. It's once in a lifetime opportunity.

I grew up playing the games, Battlefront, and then to be on set, and to see Harrison say, good morning, kid. It's to me, like, it's crazy. So any opportunity you can get to connect to them, get stuff signed, I'm going to do it. Do you remember the first time you met Harrison Ford, what that initial meeting was like and, like, be nervous? Yeah. It was actually spontaneous because myself and Daisy,

were doing the first stage of our kind of combat training. And Harrison, along with a group of people in suits, just walked in, and he kind of just looked at us and went, and then he left. And me and Daisy were just kind of like, that was Harrison. That was Harrison. But it wasn't until after when we rehearsed had the read-through, he would like, Harrison is the type to sit down

and talk to each individual with curiosity. So he was kind of like, well, the first thing he said to me, like, wait, wait a second. you're not American. I said, oh, no, no, I'm a British actor. So we, you know, we spoke about several different things. Cool guy, cool guy. You mentioned the read-through. I'm always, I always remember that iconic photo. Like, this was the way that, like, we learned about the full cast at the time. It was that black and white photo. You were seated between, I think, Adam Driver and Oscar. Yep, yep, yep. Was that, like, did you have a choice in where you were sitting?

Were you, what was the vibes in that room? Well, when I went in there, we had the names that they had seating for where we were going to be because they knew that this was going to be the first introduction visually to the fans. But I just wanted to sit next to Oscar because we had done most of the auditions together. So I just felt like that was, you know, when you see your bestie in a new high school,

you're like, that's what it was like. And so we decided to just sit next to each other just because we had auditioned, you know, we were kind of like the latest of the main cast to hear about getting the role. So I had to sit next to my boy, man. And that was such an unusual, because we didn't know at the time, Mark Hamill was reading the stage directions.

And he was phenomenal. Because he had essentially no part, as you guys recall, in the movie, but he was good at the stage direction. Absolutely, and he threw himself into it. In my head, I was thinking, you know, Mark in Force Awakens, you know you show up at the end. And, you know, you just have to do a look. And he's just like, this is a phenomenal experience.

And to be reading these scenes, I guess for him, was totally nostalgic. So, okay, let's go even further back on the Star Wars front, because I know the audition process was a very unusual one. It was months and months and months and months. It was. How many auditions would you say you had to go through? I can't count at this stage.

I did so many auditions that when JJ gave me the part, he apologized. You know what I mean? He was like, I'm so sorry. But you got the part, but I'm so sorry to put you through this. And I was like, yeah, JJ, man. It was like nine months. It was really like a long time. But for Star Wars, I mean, however long it takes, you know what I mean?

So yeah. But the weird part of, I mean, a lot of weird parts about it, is you didn't really know the part. Like you didn't really know how fully formed that character was. Ah, see, see, now it's been a few years and, you know, we're out of the franchise a little bit. I can start telling a little bit more of the truth. Now, I did know that the role was going to be quite big because I actually put someone else on tape for it. else on tape for it. Another actor that I knew at the time just came up to me and said,

dude, I've got this big, massive audition. And you know as another actor, I'm like, oh, what audition is that? He's like, dude, I think it's Star Wars. And I'm like, okay, cool. What role is it? And it was like the male lead. That's what they put there.

It was like male lead. So you kind of know that, you know, you might pick up a lightsaber, you might be a storm trooper, you just had a few scenes, but I knew about the scene, before because I had read for another actor for the exact same fin scenes. So once I filmed that scenes with my friend, I kind of, I called my agent.

I said, ah, what's going on here, man? You know, let me in there. And funny enough, in maybe like two months or three months after that, there was always planned for them to come to London and audition actors out there. Is this friend still a friend, or did this end the relationship? No, no, he is. He's doing quite, he's doing quite well in his, in his, right, but yeah, we definitely helped each other out a little bit by audition tapes for it.

But I got it. He's not sitting up here now, is he, sorry, but he's sitting in his own throwing and doing quite well. Okay. Yeah, doing quite well. Do you remember the, you must remember the precise moment. You got the role. I did.

Yeah, I do remember. I will never forget the day I got the role. I mean, I auditioned so much, I thought the day wouldn't come. I was actually on the other side of London that day. and J.J. Abrams sent me a spontaneous email saying, where are you? I had been auditioning for so long, so I felt like he kind of took away my dignity a little bit.

So I decided to pretend as if I was busy. You know when you just pretend that you're busy so that someone, like I got other stuff to do, JJ. I don't care about Star Wars. So he goes, where are you? And I said, yeah, I'm at this art show, mate, in Greenwich, mate. I'm very, very busy. Where are you? He goes, well, I'm in Mayfair,

and they're in a restaurant. I need to talk to you now. We need to talk about something important. And I go, okay, okay, I'm going to be right there. At the time I had 45 pounds in my account. It took 33 pounds and 83 pence to get to JJ. Do the math. And so when I got there, I got to this restaurant.

One side of the restaurant was completely busy and normal. And then when I looked to the right, there was the other side of the restaurant that was completely separated. There was a wall separated there. And there's just one guy sitting on the table in the middle of the empty side of the restaurant, which was JJ. So I go in, each step I took, I was nervous. I was like, okay, cool. You know, JJ is a phenomenal nice guy. And if he was to tell me, I didn't get the part.

He would still feed me. So just because I'm at dinner with JJ, it didn't mean that there was a guarantee. And so I sat down and JJ just said, you know, thank you so much for coming back. I know we've kind of, you know, grueled you with this amount of auditions. At that time, I took it upon myself

to try and get another audition and go like, JJ, please, like, look, I can audition again. I can do Finn, British, Scottish, Nigerian, whatever you need, accent-wise. And he goes, no, no, no, John, John. You're one of the new Star of Star Wars. And I was like, the moment froze.

Like, I even noticed how many sugar cubes were in this very posh little cup that was on the table. Like, everything felt very surreal. And then just to put the Star Wars stamp on it, Larry Kasden walks out. And he said, kid, this movie's going to change your life. And that's some Hollywood shit. they tell you that shit. Oh, shit. That's how I felt. That's how it felt. So it was a complete blessing, complete blessing. What was the accent discussion? Was there a discussion about different ways to go? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I tried it British, and then I guess

creatively for JJ, it just wasn't, they needed a contrast to Daisy because they definitely wanted to keep Daisy in her natural accent. But I was open. And I was like, well, I've got the credentials for that. So the American, it felt more natural. For me, it felt like I was closer to Han. I was closer to all the characters I enjoyed. So I was willing to be flexible for him. You referenced your buddy, Oscar, Isaac.

I mean, did you guys anticipate that the audience would respond to that relationship at all? No, we didn't. But I think it's the bromance we established during the audition. You know, Oscar would come to my house. I would go to Oscar's house. We were just, you know, we just met each other and just bonded. So I think from that, the audience recognized that, and some of the audience who were a little bit horny said,

oh. And then all of a sudden, Oscar just started calling me babe, and I thought, what is this feeling? So it was a good bromance that I think the fans, you know, played with in their own right. We really enjoyed the response, yeah. What do you wish you'd known prior to signing on to Star Wars? Like, what do you know now that you wish younger John knew back then? I wish I did more of this from the beginning.

I think at the beginning, the voice of the negative were inflated by social media, inflated by, you know, you know how it is. They always want to catch us with a clickbait. they always want to catch us with an opinion and sway us. And I think that if studios just get us more involved in just interacting like this, you know, with fans, then the fans honestly get to know you on a more intricate level and a more descriptive level.

And I think that's very, very important as you go through a franchise. Apart from that, I didn't know those cheese pininis they had on the Star Wars set was like a big deal. Like, it's really tasty, mate. You miss those. Best food ever. You miss those, I take it. I miss those.

If I knew that that was part of the contract, I would have auditioned for Star Wars earlier. Do you feel like you got personally the most out of those films? I mean, it's such an intense experience going through the shooting, the press tours, all of it, and you're living your own life, you're developing as a human being. I don't know. Looking back, do you feel like you kind of like stopped and took it all in enough? Yeah, I did.

I did. I did not want to go through an experience like this without feeling like I went and experienced everything I had to. So I played all the side missions. Who are the gamers out here? You know what I mean? You know what you just, you know, I know the main story, but let me see what this random CPU is saying on the corner right there.

And I feel like I handled the Star Wars situation like that. I played every scenario that was in my head that would make me fulfilled. You know, private conversations with Carrie Fisher, you know, a dinner date with Harrison Ford. You know what I mean? taking a trip with our beloved Lando Carysian, you know what I mean, and staring at him the whole entire flight with no embarrassment whatsoever. I just, I was a fan of these.

I played Force Unleashed. I remember loving Darth Moore, and then all of a sudden I'm in front of the real legends and heroes, and you can only hope that you are accepted the same way by the fans in time. Shout out to my boy Hayden Christensen, man. They were sleeping on you They can't sleep on you no more Me

So but yeah I definitely took in Took in a lot of the experience genuinely Do you watch the films differently Not even the ones you're in But like watch the original trilogy differently Now that you've been a part of it Yeah absolutely

I'm like I know him I say that I say that to my family all the time And they're like yeah John We know we know you know But yeah definitely I watch them differently And it's weird now to watch them and also being a part of that legacy.

You know, that, for me, it makes it all different. I'm like, you know, while the Ewoks are fighting, I'm like, Finn isn't here, but he's going to be. And that's quite cool to me. It's real cool. And it's part of your life, like, forever. Oh, forever. And I don't mind it. I don't mind it.

Star Wars gave me a lot of opportunities. I've been, you know, there's been good times, there's been bad times. But I think to be able to navigate through that, you need to feel. fixate on what is positive. And I've been doing that since I left. And now I'm just exposed to the love of Star Wars fan and exposed to everything that's been great and going well. I love it. You want to rank your three films for me? Favorite? I think I already did. Did you? Yeah, on hot ones. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I got in trouble for some Star Wars fans were who whoop in my ass. We're like, damn, man, how would you? Well, let me ask you this then, something

different. Let's go one by one. Your favorite or least favorite aspect of the experience of making Force Awakens. Let's start there. I think with Force Awakens making the movie, oh, I enjoyed myself, man. I'd worked my entire life of 20-something years to get to this kind of opportunity. So, you know, oh yeah, there goes my boys right there. Oh, they can tell you about it. But no, it was an amazing experience. Force Awakens shooting it.

I obviously had done films before, but on this scale, was completely different. And I was just open to it. That opportunity doesn't come all the time. So I was just like, thank you, Lord. And I get to afford my mom's supplements. They're very, very expensive guys. They have a supplements. They're very, very expensive. So it's good to just be able to do for family while at the same time film and enjoy the experience of, you know, one of the best franchises of all time. Last Jedi. Is there any? Yeah. When you think back to that, good, bad, medium, frustrations, happiness. What comes to mind? When you think, think of that experience.

I mean, Last Jedi, they tried to do what they could with that. But I love Star Wars a lot. So in planning the narrative, I would always assume that they would be a plan from the very beginning, much like what Kevin Feige is done with Marvel and developing and spreading out those universes. So on the Last Jedi, I was a bit like, you know, some choices creatively, which I have spoken about not to get into it, that I didn't agree with. Because that was just as a nerd.

I mean, I feel like a lot of us are into anime, we're into, you know, movies, and we can go back on fourth with our friends that are fans of the same thing. It doesn't mean I'm going to detach from the IP. It just means that that was whack. I feel like every fan should have the opportunity to do that, as long as it's not, you know, you're not using it against another person. I think that's the fun of being part of a fandom. We get to debate about our favorite characters.

We get to, you know, debate about whether Mace Windu is dead or not. get to, like, have those topics. Do you think he's dead? I don't think Mace Window is dead. No, right? Yeah, I don't think he is. One arm, but he's out there. One arm, he's out there.

That's even better. So he has a droid arm, and he's going to be killing people by the time he come out. Samuel, I've already told your wife, I need you back, man. I need you back. And then Rise of Skywalker.

What's the postmort himself? What's the analysis of that one for you? Rise of Skywalker had a brilliant time, but I knew because of, the structure change from The Last Jedi, it was really tough on JJ to come back and kind of like tie everything together. And I know he was well supported and everybody wanted to make sure that the narrative came to a complete end in the right way possible. So I was just supportive of whatever JJ wanted to do, being as if we had so much history from the Force Awakens.

And some of the narrative about Finn that was established in the Force Awakens were picked back up by JJ and the rise of Skywalker. And it's hard to do it. It's hard to, you know, establish Ray and then establish another Jedi you have to kind of split things up with the time that you're given but I appreciate the little things that JJ was doing in there I mean I did try to tell Ray before I went down

there was a couple of takes where I just said it I'm a Jedi there was a couple but it was good to tease that seriously you're right yeah yeah oh you didn't know Finn was force sensitive no I knew that but I didn't know you actually said yeah yeah so I wanted to

to say it. I mean, when they're going down into the quicksand. But I appreciate JJ for, you know, putting those Easter eggs in there and trying to expand so that if there is ever a revisit to Finn, there is stuff to play with. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures. see for yourself how Volvo's legendary safety brings peace of mind to every crisp morning commute. This September, Lisa 2026 XE90 plug-in hybrid from $599 bi-weekly at 3.99% during the Volvo fall experience event. Condition supply, visit your local Volvo retailer or go to explorevolvo.com.

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Does Daisy text you, like, FYI, buddy? Like, how did you find that out? I miss Daisy. I haven't seen Daisy face to face in a minute. I mean, we'll do text or call randomly. But I found out online because I, you know, I've been a genuine fan. I watch reaction videos. I'm on the subscriber list, man.

I still get the emails as if I'm not in the film. Like, you know, Star Wars and Forest Awakens comes out. And I'm like, oh, is it? So I do stuff like that. So when I found out about Daisy's movie, it made sense. It made sense that to expand the franchise in that way. And I was kind of like, you know, I'm just looking forward.

First of all, seeing if it's real, because sometimes we have had a few Star Wars announcements and, you know, development is development. You can't always get it done. But just hoping that Daisy, you know, gets that chance to shine in a franchise that's finally hers where she is now the bona fide Jedi. I think it's exciting and I can't wait to watch it.

I really can't. I'm happy for her. Have your thoughts evolved on where you want to see Finn? Has it changed from the end point of Rise of Skywalker to where we're sitting today? Do you think actively? You know, you can only control what you can control. But I don't know, how much is that in your mind, like where Finn is now? It's hard to, you know, Star Wars is owned by Mickey Mouse.

So it's what he says goes. You know, so sometimes to over-producing, to over-project on the character, you can be led to disappointment about the character. But for me, in my imagination, it could go anywhere. Give me a blast a saber, though. I want to be able to... What the combo? I want the combo, man.

What was it? Ezra? Ezra had the combo, right? Yeah, give me that guy's thing. You know, I want to be more of a Jedi scoundrel. But apart from that, you know, I'm just more so just enjoying it as a fan now. There's something peaceful about that. I love it. So opportunities in the wake of Star Wars.

Talk to me a little bit about how you've navigated the last few years, what your priorities have been in terms of starting to produce, starting to choose different kinds of roles, you know, working in things as disparate from Woman King, Detroit, they clone Tyrone. What's been the kind of methodology of how to craft a career? Well, really, after Star Wars, it was about who I was going to work with. So I always knew that I wanted to be in projects with,

other stars where I could learn and grow on these projects and also if a great enough star is in the project it affects the quality of the script and the other roles that surround this star. So people like Viola Davis who reached out to work with me, Jamie Fox

who worked with me, they clone Tyrone and the development side on the company, doing stuff with Lake East Anfield and Will Smith and all that stuff is cool to me because you know everyone loves Star Wars you know there's a love that they have for it and And it does help in terms of people believing in your creativity to be able to collaborate and make, you know, make more projects.

But also on this side, I'm kind of like, I love Star Wars. I love the franchise experience. But I want to get into my Attack the Block bag. Like, I want to get back to Attack the Block. Okay, let's talk. What's going on, man? I mean, the last time we spoke a couple years back, I was hopeful by now we'd have a movie. Where are we at?

I've read it, man. It's cool, bro. It's cool. Yeah, I've read it. Joe Cornish has done a phenomenal job on each year. draft and we're just cooking it to make it right for everyone and we obviously need more money for those aliens we want them to look real good for the 2006 crowd but for us it's just about developing the story making sure Moses and the rest of the characters that we have left are

you know fully arched out before bringing it out and going to shoot but I'm very passionate and very willing that we will shoot attack the block to it will happen amazing and you hint at all where is Moses at all these years later how's Moses doing you're gonna have to see but The story is crazy. I've got to get in the gym. Jesus. Yeah. We talked before about like influences growing up.

You've alluded to this. Look, obviously, you loved all this stuff growing up. I mean, I think you said before you were even like you were a big Michael Bay kid. Yeah, yeah. Comic book-wise, where were you at? Were you Marvel, D.C., anything, everything? Both. Marvel, D.C., injustice, civil war.

And then also into manga. I used to go to Forbidden Planet in London to buy up. all of that stuff. And then I go into Star Wars and they said, you can come and get it for free. That's like, yes. Yes. And then you showed up every day and they're like,

every day, yeah, yeah. John's pre-ordered everything. But yeah, no, just being able to interact with and read stuff. You know, comic books expand more about the characters that we love. And I've always enjoyed that. Always enjoyed that, yeah.

We're going to go to some, let's get the microphones out if we could because I want to take some of your audience questions. So prepare your questions for John in just a second. Yeah, thank you. Guys, don't be shy, okay? No, no, this guy can take it. It's one-on-one.

So, again, I think the last time we spoke two or three years back, and I brought up the Marvel stuff, and you were pretty adamant, like, I love this stuff, but it's not, I'm not there right now. Like, where are you at right now, or do you have a receptiveness right now to the Marvel thing? I just feel like, did you guys see the Marvel announcement the other day? All those directors chairs. Yeah, yeah.

We've rubber, and I think they're very busy. There's room for you? No, there ain't no room for me I'd be real I can't wait to watch it Because I think With Marvel and everything After end game

I was like wow How are they gonna You know expand the universe After saving the universe So I think that as just an audience watcher You know I have sat down with Kevin Feige I've been over to those guys But I'm just gonna enjoy it for now

Because like there's a lot There's a lot going on You know But I'm looking forward to watching it I'm sure you're plugged in, though, like, you've been fan-casted for a lot of different roles. Have any ever, like, when you see artwork of yourself as a familiar character, that must be kind of cool. No, no, it is cool, especially when the artists are really dope. It's cool to see yourself emulated in any type of way, you know, even if it's the DC side, too, I think that's cool.

I mean, we've got James Gunn coming out with that crazy. You know, he has to start his whole new universe, too. So a lot of people are thinking, but more so for me is to develop the original films, Attack the Block 2 that I lay up behind. and to do that and then see what happens next. You never know. Who's an actor or filmmaker on the list? You rattled off a bunch. Again, you have to surround yourself with the best.

That's what makes any actor better. Who right now are you obsessed with working with? I love James Samuels. I love, well, Spielberg, obviously, would be amazing. But also what's happening with Nolan. Nolan is making some incredible work, man. Is there a way to secret that into the universe? Like, you can't be like, hey, Chris, you want to get coffee, I assume.

Wait for that phone call. That's how it works. Look, guys, you know, I'm going to be honest with you guys. I'm only 33. I'm not there yet. You know what I mean? I like to acknowledge where I'm at now. So maybe one day I'll look back while talking to you guys saying,

okay, guys, now I'm here. But for now, I think you have to do the work. And coming out of a franchise, you have to do more indies. You have to prove your versatility. You have to, you know, you have to do the work before you put a spandex suit on again. You know what I mean? Is the Book of Eli series not a thing? That was announced a few years back.

Yeah, and I didn't know about that announcement. I'm like, I've been cast as Young Denzel Washington and Book of Eli? But yeah, that's what I mean that, you know, I guess the news flies around and people like to release stuff, but I'm no idea. But good, good ideas. This is a good, again, good person. Haven't you spent time with Denzel? I mean, this is the gold standard. He's the...

Never. But I worked with these kids, Olivia Washington. and on the movie I did breaking. She played my wife in it, so I'm somewhere in the garden area of his house, waving. Favorite Denzel performance, favorite film? Oh, Lord, it's hard. I mean, glory was incredible. Flight, obviously, training, there's so much, so many, I mean, it's phenomenal

alongside many other actors. Did you sell Bar, you know, Daniel Kaluya is amazing. So many actors that I really, really like, really. All right, we've got some questions for you. Let's start with you, sir. Yeah, go ahead. Hi, my name is Benj. I'm from Depeer, Wisconsin.

And firstly, I just wanted to say the photo of the cast for Force Awakens, when that was released, that was actually the day I found out I was going to become a dad. And like that photo, the return of Star Wars, with that announcement of like, I'm going to be a dad, that was a huge moment in my life. Congratulations, ma'am. Thank you.

He's 10 now. He's bonkers off the wall, super into video games. I love him. But yeah, that moment, that picture just solidifies that. My question is, while shooting attack of the block, like, how much of the look of all of that did you really understand and know just from like the practical? Because I know a lot of it was practical.

Yeah, yeah. Like how much of that visual were you able to get on set and then how much of it was like different when you saw it in the screen for the first time and with all the finished effects and all of the glow and everything that they did for the monster? Yeah, I mean, shouts out to Joe Cornish. He wanted to make sure that the movie was as close to physical effects as possible.

Anything that was possible to do in real life, he would do it. Explosions. The aliens themselves, the guy in the suit was a dude called Terry Notary. He had been the creatures in Avatar and had done a whole bunch of Avatar work. I think he even worked with Andy Circus to some of the ape movies and stuff like that. And so you saw what it was going to be. Maybe it was just maybe two aliens on set, and when I watched it, it was like 15, I was like, oh. But most of it, I got to experience C, so that really helped to portraying the role.

Please make the sequel. No, I have to. I have to. Thank you. They go and kill me if I don't. You better make that, man. No pressure. All right, go for it, yeah.

Hi. How you doing? My name is Charlie. The very first Star Wars movie I ever saw was actually Force Awakens. I'm 20, so I think I just waited too long, but I was... We forgive you, maybe. But as someone who grew up, like, watching Star Wars and stuff, what was it like interacting with, like, the younger generation

where, like, you were the face of Star Wars for them with these new films and stuff? Well, it was cool, because there'd be moments where young fans would... There'd be me, Harrison, and the rest of the stuff, and the young fans would come up, and then they would like derail from Harrison and then come to us. And then me and Daisy would look to Harrison like,

sorry, you know, and you know, Harrison be, oh, it's a new generation kid. Not caring, but that felt nice. To know that we can always reach out to new audiences, the more and more we interact with the franchise is a beautiful thing. Because I think sometimes, especially when you have a movie from the 70s, there's this hold until, you know,

they're never going to be, better than the classics. And it's like, a part of Star Wars being such a resounding thing to people was that they were children at the time. You know, it was something that signified their relationship with their father who took them for the first time to see the movie. A family outing, you know, there was something nostalgic about that, hence why there's just such fixation on this, the old stars.

But when you're seeing with the new generation is that they're going through the same thing, they're very young, being taken by their father, and they see, they get the same imprint, you know, that they got back then. And to see it continue is phenomenal. You know, like, it's a blessing. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I love your hair, by the way. Good color. Hi, my name's Jeff. I'm from Cleveland, Ohio. I was kind of following up on that. You're part of a Disney ride. Rise of the Resistance. You did part of the pre-show,

and there's an animatronic. Have you ridden it yet? And what's it like being part of something that's almost like eternal? I was there last week. I was there last week and we had a phenomenal time they need to clean up my animatronics a little bit

his bottom lip was looking a little bit lazy but phenomenal ride very immersive experience and you know honestly going to stuff like that makes me feel appreciative again and it makes me emphasize you've got to just put your energy into the fans that support you you've got to put your energy into that

because it's a different experience for me, right? I kind of walking past the ride. I'm on the ride. I'm in the park. So people come up to you and speak to you. And I just had a great day because a lot of people came and just had such positive words and support. And, you know, the rides are phenomenal, man.

I had a really, really good time, man. I'm glad you did. It was a great addition to, you know, I would say I love the last jet. I'm glad you're getting the awesome. Did you do the Millennium Falcon ride? Where you? Pilot. Pilot.

Gunner. Gunner. I took them all out. They need a gunner station. Yeah, exactly. Thank you, ma'am. Go for it. Hi, John.

I'm Chris. How you doing? And I am definitely in the minority. I am a massive Raylo fan. You know, definitely in the minority on this. And I was just wondering, had Ben Solo not died at the end of Rise of Skywalker, would Finn and Po have accepted the relationship that Ray and Ben would have had? No.

Thank you. Things just got real, things got intense up here. I mean, look, you know, ladies in the room, straight ladies in the room. When he is pursuing you, him trying to kill you is not a part of the romance. Okay? Chasing him and saying, we can become something powerful. I'm I'm there like, I want to tell my sisters to do that. But that kind of reflects off of the spiritual element to Star Wars, the fact that she recognized the good and was fighting for it. But if I was Finn there, Fin should have had a line where to say, girl, leave him be.

Come home with me. It's too good. Okay. You're up. So my name is Hugo here from Chicago, and my question for you, you already touched upon your relationship and your bromance with you and Poe Damarin or Oscar Isaac,

but also right now as diversity comes under attack, and there are people of color in the universe, and so just seeing you up there, seeing Oscar Isaac up there, and then just also seeing black and Latinos, I know they try to pin us against us as minorities. Like, what do you think that represents for Star Wars and how did you feel that like your character resonated,

so much with people and even right now you're saying like the younger generations like they swerved towards you right and they skip you know Harrison Ford so hey do I have to say like that don't get him in trouble Harrison but but but no yeah I think it's very important I think Star Wars in itself you know so many aliens so many planets so many galaxies that to be diverse within human beings is not really much of a big deal and I think a lot of Star Wars fans really, you know, cling on to that, especially when we talk about the younger ones

who are just used to a diverse Star Wars, you know what I mean? And I think everybody that's in a Star Wars movie, they're not just there because of this. They're also there because these skilled actors, you know, they auditioned, they worked hard for it. And I think that that's what it should be about, skill set, you know, your ability to come in and do the job. But also it feels good to see and to be able to watch a movie

that's this big and for you to see yourself reflected in each character. But look, I didn't have no problem seeing myself reflected in Hans Solo or seeing myself reflected in Princess Leia, you know. And I think that it's just a continuation of that. And the more and more people join with great characters and great writing, the more they'll be accepted by Star Wars fans. But if the writing is a little bit off, you know, people have a creative thing against it.

That doesn't necessarily mean they're talking about, you know, this. And I think that that's a thing that us as a Star Wars community are learning each day. and I think it just makes our community a little bit more fun. A little bit more cool. Thank you. Oh, this is it, the day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror with your Starbucks coffee.

Be confident. Assertive. Remember eye contact. But also, remember to blink. Smile, but not too much. That's weird. What if you aren't any good at your job? What if they demo you instead? Okay, don't be silly. You're smart. You're driven.

You're going to be late if you keep talking to the mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks. It's never just coffee. All right, hi there. I'm Brian and I'm here from Chicago. I am the deputy editor-in-chief at my college newspaper and I was wondering what advice do you have for me becoming a journalist in the future? Oh man, becoming a journalist.

Just stay true, please. Do your research be meticulous. Don't misquote us. We get in trouble for stuff like that by people we don't know. know, be meticulous, search for the stories that are passionate for you, articulate itself brilliantly, always search for a different and unique perspective, trust you, you probably do well, yeah. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Go for it. Go for it. Oh, that's good fit, love. I like that. Thank you. Thank you.

My name is Emma. I'm from Minnesota, and my question is, what was your favorite scene to shoot and why? Ooh, from Force Awakens? Yeah. Or from the whole franchise in general? What do you think? A whole franchise, yeah. Oh, I love those.

In Rise of Skywalker, I love those horses. The horses, what were they called? Those poor things, they were in costume the whole time. But there were horses under there. And we had to go for horse riding, you know, lessons. But that horse riding scene for me was probably the most risky action that I had. So I felt like, you know, Arnie or something. I felt like an action star for about five seconds.

But great five seconds. And everybody was on set that day. I think that's the day my mom and dad also came to set too. I always correlate the scenes I enjoy filming the most when I had family come to visit. And because that was always the opportunity to try and prove to my nephews that I was cool. You know, so I enjoyed moments like that where family was there.

And that would be the stampede of the space horses in Rise of Skywalk. That was fun. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, whoa, that's loud.

Hi. I'm Michael here from Chicago. So you spoke a little about just in the rise of Skywalker, those little teases that Finn is Force sensitive, and he almost gets the chance to get it out, but, you know, it's not quite there, but we have those little nuggets that we can explore in the future. Let's like flash forward 10 years from Rise of Skywalker,

Finn's like completed his training. He's a full-fledged Jedi. How do you picture his day to day with that new responsibility? Like what are his personal missions and, you know, what do you think he's doing 10 years from now as a Jedi? I think I remember reading an extended comic book of graphic novel stuff that involved Finn and it touched on him going across the galaxy, free and stormtroopers that were still part of the old empire, still part of that mentality. and building a crew, you know, of people. So I always thought, see, reading that, I was like, yeah, I'll do that, you know, a great crew of individuals

who were before faceless stormtroopers, being given their identity and their own personality and Finn, you know, leading that charge. Maybe alongside Jana and the rest of the crew would be cool to explore. Awesome, cool, thank you. Thank you. What's up?

Hi, I'm Octavio. Oh my God, I look terrible. I'm very nervous because you're so handsome. Thank you. What? But I love Star Wars Down, but I kind of want to ask you a question about they clone Tyrone. Ooh. I'm spiritual, so everything that was in that movie, I believe, they're putting something in the food.

And yes, they're killing us and cloning us. Who cares? But how was your experience working with that? It was a very weird movie, you know, like you're getting killed, you're being cloned, and then you're getting killed again, and then cloned again, and then Jamie, you're And then Jamie Fox is hilarious. He's brilliant. Yeah, so I just want to ask, like, how was your experience with that?

And, like, do you believe the message of the movie? And I choose movies to give you guys messages all the time. I ain't going to say that I believe they did what they said they did. But it could be in the chicken. I said that. KFC? It could be. Burma King.

I feel like, you know, we, Jewel Taylor, phenomenal. director, young guy as well, is tapping into the conversations that we're all secretly having. We're all thinking about that. We're all thinking about our food and what we put in our body and stuff like that. So I think to build kind of like a sci-fi genre off of that narrative is smart stuff. I enjoyed myself. I mean, I guess the hardest thing to do is to play the straight man while Jamie is the funny guy. That's very, very hard. But I had an incredible, incredible time. It's one of the best shooting experiences I've ever had. Shout out to Macro, Charles King and everybody. I really enjoy myself.

And girl, you look good. Don't say that in public again. You look good, okay? All right. Yeah. Let's go on a manga date, okay? I've never been to London, but I'll go with you. All right.

I have a baby now, right? You're up. Okay, hi. I'm Hayden, and if you could play any other role in a movie or TV show, what would it be? Oh, good, good question. Any role in a movie or a TV show? or a TV show. Pedro, I just want to be the guy in Last of Us just for one episode. Just one. And I need you guys as fans to just

pretend as if nothing changed. So when Pedro comes back, you're like, yeah, you know. The Last of Us is a phenomenal TV show. I don't know if you're too young to watch that, but it's a phenomenal zombie TV show, you know, so imagine me as one of the guys in Walking Dead or something, that kind of vibe. I would love to do that. And can I get a high-five? Absolutely, you can, dude. Let's do it now. Nice to meet you, dude.

Nice to meet you, man. All right. You're up. Hi, John. How you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm good, thank you.

My name is Marissa. I'm from Chicago around here in this area. My question for you is thinking about Oscar Isaac and how he had his character on Star Wars and then eventually became Moon Night for the Marvel Universe. I know you said you kind of wanted to take a break from some of that, but if there were a specific character that they had approached you for,

who would you want to be in the Marvel Universe? I don't know. I feel like Kevin Fagie asked me the same thing. Like, what would you, you know, they want your creative feedback and I was just, they're like, I don't know. I genuinely, maybe I need more ambition or something. I don't think that's your problem. Yeah, well, yeah.

I guess I was so, I've been, you know, watching Marvel from the beginning. So Endgame was like the crescendo for me. So I don't know. I wouldn't know what they're going to establish with this new universe, with Robert Down Jr. coming back as doom. I'm like, wow, how are they going to pull this off? So maybe I'll have more of an idea once they come back and establish. Ah, now, Bishop.

One vote for Bishop. All right, all right. No, best man. Ain't bad, bro. You need me to be a client or something? Run it back. We're making deals. Yeah, so maybe Bishop, you never know.

Thank you. Thank you. Go for it. Hi, I'm Carlos. While that is loud, just to piggyback, actually, your friends with Oscar Isaac, how do you rate his British accent work in Moon Night? My boy did good.

My boy did good. And you know what? It was hard for him because he had to do, he was going for more of the South London accent and that's Mill Me, you know, we sound a little bit more rago so I think that he's done a phenomenal job based on the fact that bloody hell the guy's not from there so to go into that, I remember watching the TV show

I said, look at my boy trying to sound like me yeah, but I enjoyed him and I enjoyed him as Moon Night and he's coming back, right? He's coming back? Yeah, I'll be so happy if they bring it back and establish that more. I really enjoyed Oscar in that role. Great, thank you. Thank you. Hi, peace John. How you doing?

I'm good, thank you. My name is Binta. I'm from Chicago by way of Senegalese and Gambian parents. My question is, as a first generation person, what advice do you have for others that want to embark in a creative career? I think it's all about the training first. Like any field, your success in it is based on how much skills you pick up and how much you're able to scale off of that. With acting, it's the same thing. It's the same thing.

Usually people go, I want to get an agent, I want to be in that film, but you have to scale it back. It's all about the training. The audition is where it starts and the film is where it ends. So start at the starting point, training, training, until you feel comfortable enough and branch out, connect with the community and try to build from there. Nobody can tell you what you could do in acting that's going to give you a direct role. But what I can say that's part of the components is making sure you're a great actor, any chance that you get. Cool. Thank you.

Thank you. And I love your outfit. Thank you. How you do? Hello. I'm Abby. I work in teen services in the Chicago library system here. And you had mentioned that you were really into manga and comics growing up.

And so I work with a lot of teens who are also really into manga, which I actually know nothing about. So I was wondering, like, which ones really were important to you when you were younger? younger and like do you have any suggestions for someone who is new to that and trying to connect with younger readers? I mean when I was when I was younger I started off with with death note because there was a few people I didn't like there's a few people I didn't like so I was like if I had a book you know as young so it was cool to I mean come on guys it was cool to follow him through his journey and kind of project a little bit so there was that and then you know Naruto to me was that too.

Also because I felt like, I felt like Naruto one time in my life where I felt like, damn, I have this dream that's kind of corny to everybody around me in school and stuff. Naruto was becoming the first Hokage. Me was becoming an actor in Hollywood. And the environments that were both born into, me, London, him, the hidden leaf, didn't suggest that that's what was going to happen with your future.

And to be so determined, every time I turn the world, the pages, and no matter what was going on in Naruto's circumstance, he puts his fist in the air and says, nah, I'm going to be the first Okhage, believe it. For me, I was just like, I like this kid. So those were the two that I think is phenomenal, and I think, especially for young people, because they're going to go through so much, they're going to go through, they're going to have to aspire and all of that stuff. It's good to find that kind of journey that your favorite characters are going through also. So, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, I'm David from Milwaukee, and I was wondering, when you were getting ready to play on Star Wars,

were there any moments that you had with Mark Hamill or the older Star Wars generation that they gave you advice on acting, or just how to view Star Wars in general that you still take with you today? No, I think that, I mean, we were kid kids, so I think that a lot of you have kids here. The biggest example is how you are in front of them. what you actually do and it's the same for older actors and stars obviously we're all hired so we can't waste Disney's time about you know how do i be the best actor i can be and they're going to be like yeah john mate you're in the film go to work um but it's it was great to watch harrison carry mark do the work you know get into their characters was great to know

how they established you know like how harrison established the charm you know him seeing Han like a space cowboy and putting that, injecting it into his charismatic performance. I think watching them was more of a thing than going up and saying anything. Number one, I was too scared. Number two, I think that there was so much special moments that, especially myself and Daisy, got to witness, like, seeing Harrison rehearse for the first time coming into the Millennium Falcon and saying, I don't think that's right, JJ, and then those guys going through it, You just silently sit back, you don't say anything

can you watch, and you learn so much from that that I will take for my whole career for sure. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, John. Hello. I can see you. I don't have my glasses, so I can finally see you a little bit.

Thank you. My question was, you mentioned having all these experiences with like your cast and everything. I was curious to what your favorite memory was with Carrie Fisher. if you'd like to share that? I have a good few. This is the one I share the most

because I think it most reflects who she was. It was the time where I was on a really strict regime and diet, and we had one of those long, long days. And I remember speaking to Kerry, and she was just like, what's wrong? And I was just a long day. And the fact, I have to just go home and eat chicken breasts and veg.

I don't know. It's just one of those days, you know? It's not a life end up. But you know when you just have one of those days? And she said, come back in a few hours, I'll have all the snacks you need in my trailer. You can come get him. And she did.

And her one thing to me was, you can still be through this experience and you can have a moment to relax, to think about what has happened before. She goes, you're a phenomenal kid, and you're in a Star Wars movie so young. You should be able to take in the moment. And so she said that the day like that

was a day for me to snack up, celebrate actually being in this. And she said she wasn't going to tell nobody. And she didn't. I came back to set with you. chocolate streaks on my mouth. Looked at Carrie and she was just like so

a phenomenal experience with her. It really felt like you were, you know, being mentored by someone who had the experience and who had gone to places that you had. So it was good to learn from her. Rest and peace. Thank you. We're sadly almost out of time but I do want to, before

we wrap up, because you are now part of the podcast again. We're turning guest to Happy Second Fused. I have some profoundly random question for you. You have to submit to this, John. I'm sorry. Dogs or cats? Oh, cats. The people have spoken. I had a Bengal, so, yeah, I had a Bengal a few years ago. Okay. Rest in peace, Logan. Yeah. What do you collect?

Right now I'm on Pokemon cards and Gundam. What's the wallpaper on your phone? Oh, my beautiful woman in my life. Yeah. Sorry for the children in the audience, but Dakota Johnson once asked this of me. Would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt? Give me the mouthful. You ain't going that way. Who's the last actor you were mistaken for? Daniel Kaluya.

But I claimed it too. They was like, man, you was good and get out. I said, no word, word. I claim that role, I claimed it, okay? That's my brother. You win, I win, bro, bro. What's the worst note a director has ever given you? All the directors I've worked with them are being phenomenal.

No worst notes. Okay. Yeah, they've been phenomenal. I can't lie. I'm meticulous. In the spirit of happy, say I confused, who's an actor that always makes you happy. You see them on screen, you're immediately a happier man.

Oh, man, so freaking many. But I would go for, who do I love them? you know what I'll go for a new one I've been really happy with Timothy Shalme? Yeah man Shalmy I like him you know A lot of actors my age I like to say a lot of people older that have

But you know I just like how he's curating his Leo DiCaprio-esque You know career yeah So every time I see him I'm like oh man I'd like to see what you You got going on and he's not just the pretty face You know what I mean he's got range man He can sing and dance He can ride a sandworm

Yeah yeah He can do the one of the modernino thing But I just remember, there's someone far more greater than that, though. Robert Patterson, man. Oh, yeah. I think that's top five one of my favorite actors, man. Robert Patterson. Just the risks he's taking.

He's Batman, but he's also doing the weird stuff. But it was, for me, it was about the beginning of his career. No one could ever fathom that he had that much versatility and range. And it kind of taught me as a film watcher, I can't just be on a diet of studio and popcorn movies. like I get to see my actors do work like on more grounded projects and I think once Robert got out of the Twilight franchise he just started going in like good times and a few you know even before he was doing these weird Cronenberg movies like I always talk about this I'm totally with you this guy did it excellent work is phenomenal so yeah Robert Timothy all them guy yeah you lot a dog a movie that makes you sad brings you to tears always brings me to tears always yeah I still I still can't get over the way

way Scar did, Mufasa, man. And then they decided to bring it out again and then reminded off us that again. So I was just like, I've been reliving the trauma. And then we lost James L. Jones, you know? So the connection to that and that legacy. Always a little tear in there. And finally, a food that makes you confused.

You don't get it. Yeah, why do people eat that? Oh, oh, man, I'm a bit of a vacuum cleaner. I'm like, yeah, I don't know. It must be something that you're, get that off my plate. Oh, yeah. I think I was on James Corden one time, and they had fried roaches. Oh, no.

Well. But it was a true for a dare game. I had to, I ever tell the truth. And one of the questions was, how much did you get paid on Force Awakens? I was like, give me the roach. I mean? So that definitely, no. I know in some countries is a delicacy, but, yeah, no.

Got to suffer for your art. Dude, you're always killing it. Thank you for sharing this time with us in Chicago. You are one of us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Everybody, Chicago, give it up one more time for John Boyega.

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