Happy Sad Confused - Josh Hutcherson, Vol. II

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:17 I am Josh Horowitz, and today on Happy, Sad, Confused. We're at the 92nd Street Y with Josh Hutcherson, everybody. Ready? Stupid question. You were definitely ready. Thank you all so much for coming out tonight. You've sold this wonderful hall here, sold it out, rather, this wonderful hall at the 92nd Street Y. You've got the best bargain in town. You've got two Joshes for the price of one tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:43 This Josh I'm going to bring on stage I've known for quite a while. He's a slightly better actor than I am. He's a way better actor than I am. Let's be real. He survived not one, not two, not three, not four, but five nights at Freddy's. He survived the Hunger Games. I don't know how he did that. And now he's in the beekeeper.
Starting point is 00:02:04 We're going to see if he can survive Mr. Jason Statham. No spoilers, but I don't know, guys. I mean, it's Jason Statham. I am so thrilled to welcome this guy back to the podcast. He's one of my favorites on the planet. Please give a warm welcome to Josh Hutcherson, everybody. That's what I mean? All right.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Hello. You just said to me backstage, two Joshes go in, one comes out. What did you mean exactly? I'm just saying if shit goes down, every man for himself. I got a few people here that might help me. I know. I know. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:02:49 It's a very bad call. You want to play that? No. Welcome. Welcome to the back to the podcast, but welcome, you know, to this awesome, like, live experience. Thank you for doing this, man. It's been a while. I've forced you to drink on red carpets. I've asked you every stupid question known to man. And like a needy actor, you just keep coming back for more. I just love it. I love it when you treat me bad, man. Just it happens. I love it. All right. Just stay tuned. More to come. No, there's a lot to celebrate tonight. Congratulations on all the success.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Before we get to the beekeeper, I do, since, so Josh didn't get a chance to talk about his wonderful new phenomenon five nights at Freddy's. I'm sure you all checked it out an amazing success.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Thank you. Because of the sag strike, of course, understandably so, you weren't able to publicize that one. But what was that experience like? I mean, you were kind of sitting by the sidelines seeing this real phenomenon happen. It was like a very surreal experience
Starting point is 00:03:47 to have a movie that I was really proud of, really excited about coming out, and I didn't do a single interview, didn't even, like, post anything. I couldn't do anything at all for it. So it was very odd after, like, being in this business for 22 years. And it's the first time that no one asked me a question about a massive movie I had coming out. Just going to Starbucks being like, do you have any questions? And I was, like, obviously, like, we were all, like, in support of the strike
Starting point is 00:04:11 and happy that it finally came to a good end. But I was like, what if I posted whatever you do, don't go see my movie? I was like, no. And I was like, no, that's stupid. But no, it was cool, man. I was not really familiar with the game beforehand. And then just when I came on board, the FNAF fan group is just like, some of you are here.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I know. Oh, yeah, that's a lot. There's a lot here. It's such a cool coalition of people from all over the world, all races, all ages, all genders. And it's just, like, very cool to be a part of something that connects with that kind of broad, audience. You are, though, correct me if I'm wrong. You are a bit of a gamer, though, over the years. You devoted a bit of your time. I'm late to the game, but I just discovered Fortnite. Oh. Very late to the game. Right. But I love it. Check out Pac-Man.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's amazing. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So are you all in on Fortnite right now? Are you like, what per-. I was telling you backstage, I haven't seen Oppenheimer, Maestro, past lives. It might be because of Fortnite. I'm just saying is it impacting any relationships friendships in your life yet are people intervening and saying Josh next question please wow no no no it's it's not yet let's see so for five nights did you ever at least did you like sneak into a theater like did you get to experience it with a crowd I I never experienced it with the crowd I saw we they set like a small like private screening for like some
Starting point is 00:05:44 cast and stuff but no it was so it was so I was hyper disengaged from this thing So my fingers are crossed that we get to do another one, and then that way I can be much more engaged. It occurs to me between Five Nights and Freddy's and the Hunger Games, you've made two ginormous films that involve killing children. It's kind of my thing, I guess. I don't know. I don't have a question.
Starting point is 00:06:08 They come to me, man. I don't know what it is. I just lay the facts down there. Hey. It's quite a different. What's the question behind the, or a statement behind the state? What do you want? What do you want?
Starting point is 00:06:19 I'm just saying that must be quite a directive to Team Hutcherson. More child-killing stress? They're in the back room, we can have a conversation. Okay, fair enough. And you do not know the precise future, but obviously making $350 million, this enormous hit. The hope is to get back at it, yes? That is definitely the hope.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Okay. Yeah. And also, too, I think what's so cool is that there's so much of the world of Freddy's to explore. There's so many characters, there's so many iterations of the game. And I think it's challenging, and, you know, I think that's maybe where they are now is, like, trying to really understand, like, where the story is going to go, how they want to explore moving forward and stuff like that. But, yeah, I'm ready to dive back in. It also occurs to me.
Starting point is 00:06:59 So, like, in this one, you work with, I don't even know what we call them, animatronic, like, these Jim Henson-like puppet creatures. They're called actors. Well, yes. Here's my point. Okay. Now he's after me. Yeah. You flip that switch.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Oh, okay, here we go. But you have, in your young career, you've worked. with every kind of, like you've done 3D, you've done IMAX, you've done film, you've done digital, I'm sure, every mocap, performance capture way back when. It's an interesting set of skills to borrow from another action franchise taken. You're like the Liam Neeson of movie stars, is what I'm saying. Great. But like, I guess which of those modes has presented the most challenge to you as an actor?
Starting point is 00:07:41 I mean, I think, you know, any time that you're doing any kind of performance and you have nothing to interact with, and it's all up to you to create, that's, you just feel ridiculous. Right. And I think when we were doing Hunger Games, we were shooting one of the, I think it was in Catching Fire.
Starting point is 00:07:58 It was the monkey fight sequence. Right. We shot that for two weeks. It was a half a page in the script. And we had stunt people just wearing like green screen suits. And we were like friends with them because we were around them all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:14 They like lift it up, like have a cigarette and then put it back on. And they're like jumping around acting like monkeys and stuff. And you're just like, this is my job. Showbiz. What have I done wrong or right to end up here? But what's cool about Freddy's is that they, you know, we had real creatures to interact with and like actual physical things there, which always, you know, brings in, that's one less
Starting point is 00:08:36 thing I have to do like mentally to like believe that I'm doing what I'm doing. 100%. Yeah. All right. So you have this new film, this crazy Jason Statham movie. That's a lot of fun. It is directed by David Air. If you guys don't know, David Ayer's work,
Starting point is 00:08:49 this guy means business. He knows his way around an action movie. It's called The Beekeeper. When this one comes to you, are you like, are you fucking with me, guys? Is this really what the movie? Because it's one of those things where it's like, is it real?
Starting point is 00:09:02 But it works, and it works because of David, I think, and because of Jason. Exactly. But, like, tell me when it was presented to you, what did you make of The Bekeeper? You know, I'm not the actor that people usually think of when they look to find a villain for a movie,
Starting point is 00:09:19 known for being like a good guy. So for me, I was like, you sure about that? I was like, me? But it was, for me, it was a real draw to do something so different. And this character, Derek, is like, hyper douchebag, crypto bro, privileged billionaire that sets up this call center that just scams old people out of their life savings.
Starting point is 00:09:43 They'll be too disappointed. I got to branch out somehow they kept me in a box for too long man I could be a jerk to me back in I'm a local The way old Hutcherson finally Yeah exactly I used to the other side
Starting point is 00:09:59 But it was super fun man to dive into something so different and for David Eyre who I've respected and looked up to for a long time for him to see that potential in me when no one else did Well not to mention you also I feel like you've like stolen like Nick Cage's wardrobe in this like it's it's aggressive it's like snake skin kind of like not only is it's
Starting point is 00:10:19 snake skin it's snake skin and leopard print at the same time love it so this guy is you know unhinged um yeah flashbacks hunger games flashbacks with a hair yes yeah yeah 100% it's funny because like after hunger games I was like I'm never I'm never gonna bleach my hair again man that was like the maintenance on it and it was terrible and then like first call with the the hair designer she was like we're thinking with his Derek looks we're taking into this crazy direction what if we did like like bleached tips. Like, yep, yep, I'm in. That sounds great. 100%. So how
Starting point is 00:10:48 quickly an actor's like, changes when they're like, oh, makes the character more cool? Yeah. Sure. It's interesting, because, like, I think of air. I think of Statham. Very alpha male kind of, like a lot of testosterone. That's obviously you too. I reek of that. I'm just, I don't know, like growing up,
Starting point is 00:11:05 did you have mostly male friends, female friends? Like, what were your friend groups that were even to this day? You're assuming that I had friends, right? Okay, sorry. They were all in here, bud. No. Right. I, this and this, there's nothing between the two. I know, I love it. It's great.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Question was about friendship. Engage, answer. I grew up on sets. So, like, my friends were mostly, you know, grips and cameramen and stunt teams and hair makeup people. So I had, I think it was a really cool experience growing up because I didn't have many friends my own age. They were normally 15 at least.
Starting point is 00:11:44 least years older than me. So I grew up fast, but it's also, I got to see a lot of different types of people from, because this industry attracts people from all over the place from different walks of life. And I think that I'm super grateful that I got the life experience as a young kid to grow up around quasi like-minded artists from so many different, you know, walks of life. And that's a very cool experience, I think, for me. Did you ever go through your Derek Danforth, like, phase? Were you ever kind of a jerk, you think? Like, if I asked your mom, what was the age at which Josh was kind of like,
Starting point is 00:12:21 okay, we have to have a talk? I mean, okay. She would say 16. And I think that when I was like 16, I was going through a moment of, at that point, I'd been a professional working actor for seven years and was kind of like having this existential crisis of like what I want my life to be and lashing out and being rebellious and things like that. But it was very contained. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Short period of time. There's never been a case where you've actually uttered the words, do you know who I am? No, no, no, no. I didn't think so. No, no, never. Actually, sometimes my friends would be like, why I get a reservation at this place? Like, maybe we can. I'm like, no, no, no. We're not doing that. They're like, okay, I get it. Like, what if we called?
Starting point is 00:13:09 And we said, like, we're trying to make a reservation for you. I'm like, dude, that just sucks, man. That just sucks. That's just get takeout. Like, I don't want to. Not worth it. It doesn't feel good. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:14:23 or go to explorevolvo.com. So I was lucky enough to be on the periphery of the ride that was The Hunger Games with you guys. And we got to know each other through those amazing years. It's so funny to me, I don't know what your perspective is on this. There's, like, so much nostalgia now for The Hunger Games as if it happened 30 years ago. It wasn't that long ago.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah, but it wasn't that, not that long ago. I guess. Does it feel like a long time ago at this point? It's weird. I know, like, recently when I was seeing all the billboards for the new movie coming out, I kept panicking in a way, feeling like I should be at a press junket.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Right. Or that I should be promoting this movie somehow. So that was weird, but no, it's, it's a weird feeling because on one hand, it feels like another lifetime ago, but it also just feels like yesterday at the same time. So it's, it's hard to really place it. But it was like more than 10 years ago, the first one. I mean, does it feel like it's... I shot the first one 13 years ago.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's crazy. Like, that's wild. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember at this point the initial audition? Was there a chemistry test with Jen? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, I remember. It was funny actually because this was like a month after I had auditioned for Spider-Man and didn't get Spider-Man. And then that's, I end up being PETA. So I was like, oh, that's works out. But yeah, it was crazy
Starting point is 00:15:51 because I'd done like the first round of auditions and then like you'd never hear anything back so I assume okay, you didn't get that, like on to the next. And then they called and they said, hey, we're going to do a chemistry read, I had a few actors and we went and met with Jen. And I'd actually met Jen
Starting point is 00:16:05 when we were doing, I was doing press for the kids are all right, and she was doing press for Winter's Bone. And I was sitting there at the table at the SAG Awards, and she came up to me. And I hadn't met her, but I had known about her. And she was like, Josh, hi, I'm Jen. I was like, hi, friend. Hi, how are you?
Starting point is 00:16:22 And she basically told me the story that she saw, because she's from Kentucky as well. And she saw in a newspaper that, like, local actor kid from Kentucky. It makes it big in Hollywood. And so she like. Again, it wasn't that long ago, Josh. This just said, Josh is in, she saw that
Starting point is 00:16:43 and she took that to her parents and like, look, this kid made it, I can be. So she told me that, and I mean, we hit it off right away and the rest is ancient history. Does Joshua live in some capacity to this day? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, we talk all the time and she's got like a whole family
Starting point is 00:17:03 and like she's living a whole life. And, you know, it's hard to get us all back together. But we try to see each other from time to time, and we stay in touch with the phones. If you texted her right now, how long would it take her to respond to you? I would say probably like, it could be between like a minute and three days, which is also kind of how
Starting point is 00:17:27 I respond almost everybody. They text me, depending on it's like my mom or my best friend. You want to take out your phone? You want to try it? I don't have my phone. on stage? I'm professional. What's this? I don't have her number. She totally iced me out. That's for the best.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's for the best. Let's take a look back at the wonderful saga that was, The Hunger Games. This is a scene. This is a scene from catching fire, you and Jennifer. Okay? All right. Candace, I don't know what kind of deal is you. I don't know what kind of deals you made with Hamich, but he made me promises, too.
Starting point is 00:18:07 This isn't fair. You die. And I live. I'd have nothing. Nobody else that I care about. Peter. It's different for you. Family needs you.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You have to live. For them. What about you? Nobody needs me. I do. I need you. I need you. Oh!
Starting point is 00:19:15 Okay, okay. Okay. All right, lovebirds. Woo! Hello. How do you feel? It's not warmer. It's wild, man.
Starting point is 00:19:53 It's funny, like, I don't just, I don't see that ever. Like, I saw the movie once, like, at the premiere. I've never rewatched any of it. So it's always funny when things, like, come up and, uh, I sound different, I look different. So that makes you realize it was 13 years ago. You know what I'm saying? Is that go for all your work or specific to those films?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Like if it comes on TV, put the channel as quickly as possible? Anything. Yeah. I don't like hearing my own voice back. I don't like, my job is like being on screen for like millions of people to watch and listen to. And I just, I'm, I never want to watch it. Like I love to make movies and do the work and hope people enjoy them. But to rewatch it, it's just like, you just see all the things.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You just see all the things that you wish you did differently and, you know, wish you could change and everything. But, I mean, for me, seeing anything from The Hunger Games, it's just, like, that time was incredible. And, like, working with that cast, that moment, those filmmakers. It was just, it was the best, man, and I miss it. So what's the most meaningful thing related to acting and totally unrelated to acting that you got out of that experience? Because, like, there is the acting portion of, like, working with, like, an amazing array of talent and great filmmakers. and then there's the whole apparatus that is very unique. Yeah, I mean, I think for me, just over the course of the years,
Starting point is 00:21:10 any time that you get to work with actors like Jen or Philip Seymour Hoffman, Julianne Moore, the cast in this is like insane. You just hope that some of that rubs off on you in some way, whether that's just their general vibe on set, or Jen, for example, has a really specific style where she'll be completely wacky out of her mind, like a loose cannon and then they say action it just instantly snaps into hyper focus
Starting point is 00:21:35 and like part of that looseness allows it to then like slap into like a very specific thing yeah Francis told me recently that some actors actually almost like it bothered them that she was so good at that and she could just turn it on and off yeah it's I mean I think
Starting point is 00:21:51 for me I definitely enjoyed it because I'm very much like her in that way but I can see somebody who's like trying to actually work stay in it yeah Somebody's like trying to take something seriously. Right. Might be hard for them.
Starting point is 00:22:05 So that on the acting front I think. And then like personally I think just that whole experience, me, Jen and Liam specifically that trio of just the rocket ship that that was and the press tours and the attention and the fame and everything was just, it's a lot. And we were young. I was 18, we made the first one. And just all that happening to you in such a massive way, having that camaraderie and that
Starting point is 00:22:29 real family feeling that you create. That's something that's super special. And just learning how to lean on others when you're going through something that's crazy because they have a similar experience. So, you know, there is an elephant in the room we need to discuss. The internet and Josh Hutcherson right now.
Starting point is 00:22:52 First of all, let's just get our bearings. On scale of 1 to 10, how plugged in are you to social media? What? What? Yeah. Huh? You have one of these?
Starting point is 00:23:03 One to ten? It's one of them tablets, huh? Yeah, yeah. It's the devil's toy. I'm very unplugged in in that world. I look at Instagram from time to time to like see dog videos and like recipes that I save and will never ever make. That's like my life. So in this, I'll let you, I won't jump the gun.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Go ahead. Okay. Well, how about this? play a little audio piece and tell me how it makes you feel. Can we play this? Oh yeah. Can you blow my whistle baby, whistle baby? Let me know. Girl, I'm going to show you how to do it and we start real slow. You just put your lips together when you come with you come with. Can you blow my whistle, baby? Whistle, baby. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:24:07 That's like when they do that at a club and you're like, I'm leaving. The drop's about to happen and then they're like, get out. I was on my way. So how would you characterize your relationship to Flo Rida and whistle? Newly found. Right. This was happening, I guess, and I genuinely had no idea. and then my friend Erica sent me a
Starting point is 00:24:32 she's like I never send you anything about yourself and I'm like oh god what did I do this guy? I know and she sent me it was a link to a TikTok from like the official Democrats TikTok right and it was Joe Biden yeah drinking a coffee cup and I was like what is this and then he turns it there it and then my face pops up with some random ass pictures yeah from like 2014
Starting point is 00:24:57 And I was like, well, that's odd. And then I was like, oh, okay, whatever. That's cool. So weird. And then my brother and his boyfriend sat me down over the Christmas, over the Christmas break. I'm talking to Paul Giumadi from the holdovers right now. They sat me down.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Anyways, they sat me down and they were like, okay, we need to just walk you through some things. You need to be aware of what's happening. They need to, like, it's fine. You can choose to live in a little bubble under a rock if you want, but. But an annoying journalist may play this music for you at some point. You might want to know, exactly, yeah. And they ran me through.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And it's crazy, man. It's like a Rick roll. Yeah. Do you guys remember Rick rolling? Sure. Some do. Okay, I wasn't sure, like, how relevant that way. I'm so lost.
Starting point is 00:25:48 It's okay. I'm so lost, man. It's going to be okay. You should bring back, also, the pose, yeah. Although my whistle, baby. No. You need to bring the new pose back. You need to like, that's, that's, that's you in the video, in the, uh...
Starting point is 00:26:03 What do you mean? You're like doing this during, isn't he? In the video for the... I'm just doing this. Can you see that? Oh, dear God. What is that look? You tell me.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I think I was attempting to smize. Right. Oh, you're smithing. I don't have it anymore. I lost it. You lost it. Yeah. Yeah. It's his blue steel. Yeah, yeah. But it's not only that. It's the memes. It's everything. You alluded to a little bit of the Joe Biden one. Yeah. Let's just run through a couple things I saw on the internet. Oh, my, so people. People love it weren't for the baby. They love that. They love that. Don't get it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Okay, let's go to the next one. Let's see. Peter was being hunted down for sport and still found time when the cat was a good. Back real men. That's great. That's great. And we have one more. We have one more.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I mean, that's a valid question. How did you do that? Dude. This is a whole thing, man. Like, I don't... The dude's a baker. Right. And he's like fighting for, how did he have the time, the tools?
Starting point is 00:27:29 I remember we were shooting this in North Carolina. We were shooting it like in the mountains outside of Asheville. And there was like this rock, like a crevice kind of thing with like a, what seemed like an infinite black hole that leads back into what I'm sure was full of millions of snakes. And they had snake wranglers on set. And they were like, yeah, we think it's good. So I just like lay there and they're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:54 there. And they're like, yeah. I'm like, oh. So I laid there. And for 45 minutes, they did all this makeup thing around me. I had no idea what I looked like. Just laying there waiting. And I'm like, hi, surprise. And it's like, I felt like you reminded me of like in Zoolander when he's got like, he's like in the coal mine. And he's like, boom. I was like, after I saw, I was like, I don't know. I'm not sure that's what people had in mind when they read the book. Yeah. It's a lot. But, you know, we did it. You did it. We did it.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Success. We can take that off the screen. Thank you. Or leave it there forever. Yeah. We can definitely remove that. Please. Please.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Thank you. That's all the memes. You've been subjected to. You okay? You feel all right? I'm sweating a little bit? A little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I'm so happy I live off that. I would just, and not because of me or anything, but I would just go into rabbit holes. I would get hooked on some kind of weird thread and I'd find myself on some Yeah, don't go on Reddit with your name. I'm sure there's horrible, strange things there. Josh, what's there? I run the Josh Hutcherson Reddit board. You don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I knew it. We talked a little bit about auditioning. You mentioned the Spider-Man audition. Like, you've been auditioning since you were, what, like eight years old? Does that make it any easier? You faced success and rejection. Yeah. Like, all your life.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. So being the 65-year-old man you are today, Is it easier in a way because you've had that experience or is it still tough walking into an audition at this point in your wife? It's still tough. I mean, it's very tough. If anything, it might even be tougher now
Starting point is 00:29:36 because it feels like after like 22 years, man, I'm still like getting rejected left and right. Like it's exhausting, but that's like part of, you know, an actor's whole life is the rejection. And it is hard. And it's crazy too because for me, like when you audition, you have to like, for me, I put myself fully into it as if I'm going to be getting this job.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I pour myself into it. I study the hell out of it. I really focus. You give a lot of yourself when you act. And like 99% of the time, they don't even respond. You just like, it goes out into the ether. You never hear back. And you read it in the trade that somebody else got the part.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And so it's like, it's a weird thing. We have to like go all in and do it. But as soon as you do it, just forget about it and look forward to the next thing. Is there one that still haunts you to this day? It sounds like Spider-Man was actually a good experience. Yeah. Right? That's not a negative experience.
Starting point is 00:30:25 No, no, not at all. No, I mean, what like 18-year-old boy doesn't want to be like Spider-Man? That's been pretty cool. To make the top three or five of Spider-Man, that's an accomplishment. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. But obviously, PETA was a good come-up. I, yeah, you know, I think like the first time that I really remember feeling rejection
Starting point is 00:30:44 in that way as an actor, but many other forms beforehand in life. But I auditioned for, I think I was like 9 or 10. I auditioned for one of the new home alone's, like a home alone remake, and it was like between me and one other kid, which is so brutal to tell a, like, a 10-year-old, hey, kid, I'll do that voice again. Yeah, there is. I'm saying, you and one other guy, all right? Why say you do a little dance? You've cornered the market on Old Timie Man.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah, exactly. And when I didn't get that, it was like crushing, and like that was like the first time I remembered feeling that, that feeling of disappointment. So at this point, I mean, you know, the beekeeper is, it is a legitimate stretch. It's like cool to see you in kind of like a different kind of a thing. Like, can you pursue that kind of a thing or are you kind of like at the whim of what people bring to you? Like can you secret out into the universe what you want or do you not even know what you want? Like, I mean, I don't really know what I want is the thing.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Like I'm super open. I just, right now I'm in love with working and being on set and it's like my home in so many ways. and getting to do something like the beekeeper was super new to me and it was a stretch which I really enjoyed and it was super freeing to do something so different in a way so I think for me
Starting point is 00:32:00 you can try to put things out there into the universe and try to like will something to happen but in this job it's like just not up to you and it's interesting because I've directed a couple like a couple music videos and write a short film and like being on the other side of the camera looking at audition tapes and trying to find actors
Starting point is 00:32:17 it really helped me as an actor to not take it as personal when I didn't get cast because you can watch a bunch of tapes like these are all great actors it's not about who is the better actor it's like looking at the entire project of like how this person
Starting point is 00:32:31 feels what their look is how like they would match to this other person and kind of like trying to find that balance in the script as a director so I get it man are you any closer I know you've wanted to direct for a while you directed a short we talked about that once is that still the one you want to expand
Starting point is 00:32:47 into a feature? Is there still an eye on? No, that one's kind of, my taste has changed a bit since then. But I'm pursuing it. It's not something I'm like, I need to do right this moment. And I just, I have so much respect for directors and the job that that is and everything. I still have things to learn before I really take on a full feature. I know we were talking backstage.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You're a little behind on your film. But what's the last, is there a last TV show you were obsessed with? Anything come to mind? What are you, what's on the list? I just re-watched Sex in the City. It's fantastic, it's great, head of its time, groundbreaking. Are you a Carrie or are you a Miranda or Samantha? You're Samantha, obviously.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Wait, which one? Who's that? Is it Samantha Kim, Kim, do I have that right? Yeah, Kim Cottrell. I think I'm more of, Miranda is she goes, she has the baby. Yes. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally connect with her.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And it's funny, because Kim, and Cynthia Nixon both played my mom's. Cynthia Nixon and Little Manhattan and Kim and Journey to the Mysterious Island. I was like, where are the journey to? Where were we going again? Journey to me, places. I was like, was it, Brendan Fraser or the Rock?
Starting point is 00:34:05 You are moving through the Fast and the Furious cast. You know that. Is this like a secret way of getting yourself into those? Oh. No, no, no. I thought you said, I think of me getting, like, through all the cast members. Oh, I see. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It's just a coincidence. What's your favorite franchise going? Is there a franchise that jumps out at you that piques your interest right now? And the answer can be no. It's okay. I want there to be one. Well, we all do in this room. Man, I'm trying to...
Starting point is 00:34:37 No. Okay. There's not. I live under a rock. I just stare at one. and play Fortnite. I'm not more interesting than this. And you obsess over your dogs.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And I'm obsessed over my dogs. So how does that manifest? Are you dressing them up? Are you... No, they're naked. They're in the house, collars off. Everybody in that house, take off the clothes. Exactly, yeah. I run a nudist colony for dogs in my home.
Starting point is 00:35:08 It manifests itself in just like, they are like the joy of my life. And, oh my God, I'm just like, you know, you have a pit risk too. I have a pit mix. And yeah, and we should do a PSA for pits because they're the best dogs on the planet. They're amazing. Yeah, they're the best. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:25 They are. No, it manifests itself and just like exploding my heart with love and like just wanting to do everything to make their lives the best they could ever be. 100%. Yeah. Swiped, a new movie inspired by the provocative real-life story of the visionary founder of online dating platform, Bumble. Played by Lily James, Swiped introduces recent college grad Whitney Wolfe as she uses grit and ingenuity to break into the male-dominated tech industry to become the youngest female
Starting point is 00:36:00 self-made billionaire. An official selection of the Toronto International Film Festival, the Hulu original film Swiped, is now streaming only on Disney Plus. Are you looking for a movie review show where the critic is at the top of his or her game, meticulously breaking down and explaining exactly why a film does or does not work? Well, good luck with the search. Because we're having fun here on Adam does movies. Each and every week, I hit the big blockbusters, I cover the streamers,
Starting point is 00:36:28 and I even toss in some movie news for fun. Check out the show on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts, on YouTube. And hopefully, we can do movies together. Hot. All right, so let's do some profoundly random questions from the happy, say, confused questionnaire. Are you ready? I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:36:51 All right. What do you collect? Do I collect? Yeah. You sound like that crazy a question. I don't have a favorite franchise. You're going to ask about collections? I'm sorry we want to know the real you, darn it.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I collect. I collect house plants. Huh. But they don't last long. It's like a graveyard of houseplants. Is it that hard to take care of a, apparently? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Too much sun, too much water, not enough. It's like, dogs I got down pat, but houseplants? Right. Worrisome. What's the wallpaper on your phone? My wallpaper on my phone. It actually, it's like this weird drawing that I did like 12 years ago, ago and I just put it as the background and it never changed, but it looks like a broken
Starting point is 00:37:40 phone screen kind of. So people always think like, you're, oh, okay. It's not. Oh, art. Gotcha. Nice. Last actor you were mistaken for. Last actor I was mistaken for.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Oh wait, this kind of happened not long ago too. People like sometimes, well, I can't think an actor I'm mistaken, where people all the time will be like, where did you go to high school? Where did you go to high school? Right. I'm like, a trick question, I didn't. Where did you grow up? I was like, Kentucky? They're like, that's not it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Nope. Do you know Sharon? Maybe. They can't, like, they know they know me from somewhere. And I'm like, what do I do? Be like, well, I'm a famous actor, so maybe it's... Perhaps you... You might have seen such films as...
Starting point is 00:38:29 Have you ever a journeyed to a mysterious island? Yeah, or to the center of the earth. Is there a movie you're embarrassed to admit you've never seen? Oh, there's many. There's many. I haven't seen the New Hunger Games yet. And that's what... Oh, and they all gasped.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Get out! Yeah, out! The door's over there! No, I'm really excited to see it. The world is amazing, and Francis Lawrence directed, obviously, and it looks great. I just haven't seen Oppenheimer, I haven't seen this. It's like, man... I mean, they talk all about PETA in the film, of course.
Starting point is 00:39:04 They talk, and they're like, one day this guy will come. He's a baker, he does camouflage. It's all about you, buddy. Really? So there's a chance. Nobody tell him. What's the most annoying thing about you, if I asked your friends and family? What would they say?
Starting point is 00:39:27 He's a great guy, of course, but if he could just... Respond to text messages. I'm just like... again, living under a rock. I just, I don't know, man, I have a hard time, like, just allowing myself to accept that technology is real. I don't know why. It's a good thing in the end.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It's like a yearning for yesteryear. Like, oh, you know. No, I'm not going to. Old time, I'm not going to do. Old time you guys. Yeah, old time you guys. No, I think, I don't know. We don't have to go into a whole, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:57 through my therapist. Yeah, we do. Well, uh, hey man. No, I think there's like a feeling of, of a fear of us losing the human connection. Even though technology can also enhance that in many ways, that I think that I just get like very stiff arm to like technology in general.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It's, you're wise, don't, as much as I'm making fun, you're wise. What's the worst note a director has ever given you? Worst note. I, well, worst. So actually David Eyre and the beekeeper, he gave me two of my favorite directions back to back. One, we were doing the final finale of the movies. It was really intense, like, 13-minute long scene.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And, like, he wouldn't cut. He'd just, like, resetting back to one. And I'm, like, screaming. And, like, we're doing one. I'm, like, crying, one. I'm, like, punching things. Like, he's out of my mind. And he came with me one time, and he goes, hey, uh, tell your mom about the machine elves.
Starting point is 00:40:53 He was like, what do you mean? What do you mean? He's like, you don't know about the machine elves? I was like, I have no idea. He's like, well, like, I've heard that when you ingest DMT, you go into this other dimension and there are these machine elves that mock you and laugh at you and you come back and oh that was fun so tell your mom about that in this scene i'm like okay okay so i think a whole riff about machine elves and then the next take goes okay now this one
Starting point is 00:41:17 kick him off the story abort no more old-timey voice please and then literally the next time he reset he comes up and he goes just remember that all of us just want to be loved and we can only ask for the that with the tools that we're given. I'm like, okay, let's grow, let's grow, let's go. So it's just like, like, this kind of crazy, like, swerve, yeah, really, but it was really fun,
Starting point is 00:41:43 and that was, so not about the worst, that was actually the best, but just like, it's hard to really kind of know what to do with that. In the spirit of happy, second fuse, who's an actor that always makes you happy? See them on screen, you can have a good time. I would say, Probably would be name an actor for me, please.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I don't know any actors. We will all wait together in silence. I would say, what would be happy to see on screen? Hugh Grant. That's a good one. Yeah, we got there. If he's in my head freshly because,
Starting point is 00:42:21 freshly, because I just watched Notting Hill for the first time like a few weeks ago. It's so good. He's like, it's so charming. Yeah, absolutely. Is there a movie that always makes you sad? Um... You a crier at the movies? No, are you?
Starting point is 00:42:37 No! What if I... I think not long ago I... I have bad memory as well as you can probably... Yeah, it's a warm man. Yeah, I know. I've got to talk to my neurologist about it. Um...
Starting point is 00:42:50 Honestly, Brigitteerbithia is pretty sad. It's a pretty sad one. I have a lot of people that come up to me and tell me, like, you messed me up. That movie, like... That movie, like, really, that was hard. Yeah. I think on a plane, we're all more, you know, susceptible to tears.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And I've definitely shed a few on planes. I've been like, this is embarrassing. What's a food that makes you confused? See it on the menu. I don't get it. What's up with that? White pizza. Oh.
Starting point is 00:43:23 No tomato. It's not pizza. Cheese bread. Cheese bread. I mean, to be fair, cheese and bread are two of the best things on the planet. Yes. And that's totally fine. But let's just not call pizza.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yeah, I got you. I got you. It might even just be more, like, slight rage as opposed to confused. Right. It's like, white pizza, okay. What are you doing here in the pizza section? It's funny that you give off this reputation, Mr. Nice Guy, but underneath it's all this psychotic, making the movie is about killing kids,
Starting point is 00:43:54 angry about white pizza. You know, and now they've given me, like, they've opened Pandora's box with letting me play Derek. So it's really good. Finally. A whole bunch more crazy guys come out of me. I love it. Okay, some questions from our wonderful audience here. Lauren would like to know, do you have a favorite memory or piece of advice?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Someone gave you early in your career that you still use now? Yeah, I did the Polar Express. That was when I'm like, my earlier things. Still, somehow people will know it. 22 years? No. Stop it. Josh, focus.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Don't make me play whistle again. I'll do it. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I behave. I behave. When I worked with Tom Hanks on that, he said that he always believed that fame, success, doesn't necessarily change someone. It magnifies who they are.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And so I always hope that if I ever got it magnified, that it would be a good thing. Right. So just kind of like, knowing that it doesn't, you are who you are inside, and when all that exterior thing, all that happens, you can still be yourself and just, like, be even more open and loving. The purest expression of who you are.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Exactly. Emma would like to know any tips for new Spanish learners. New Spanish learners. I mean, you know, I didn't study Spanish at all. It was just, like, immersion. So if there's any way you can immerse yourself and just only being around people speaking Spanish, that was the best way for me.
Starting point is 00:45:25 But, like, a lot of people that I know use Duolingo, and they, like, they learn something. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any dream directors you want to work with, and why is it Greta Gerwig? That's funny. Greta is amazing.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I love to work with Greta. Pointed. Yeah, right? Exactly. Well, the reason why it's Greta is, no. I love the work with Greta. There's a lot, man. I love Sophia Coppola is one of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:45:52 I think, like, just her approach to, like, the subtleties of, like, you know, you're of like human complexity and the way she lets the actors like breathe and be in moments is really really cool. But then I'm also like I'm a big David Fincher fan of like Fight Club with such a seminal movie for me when I saw it when I was 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah those are probably two that are pretty high up on that list. But there's also I'm really excited now for like the new wave of young up and coming filmmakers and also like international directors and stuff. You see a lot of really interesting voices coming out of you know foreign countries as well that I'm really excited to
Starting point is 00:46:28 get into somehow. I know you're behind, but have you seen the new Finchry yet, the killer? I have not seen the killer. It's amazing. Yeah, okay, I guess you're going to love it. Okay. When I interviewed Francis Lawrence recently, and he was saying that you, like, you really enjoyed doing the stunts and the action in those films.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Is that something, because like, you get a little bit in beekeeper, but Statham steals it all. He does all that great action. But like, is that something on the list that would be cool to do some, a little more physical? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I, when I was a kid, I would, I played a ton of team sports, baseball and soccer and basketball and everything. And then when I started acting, that wasn't really an option.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Just like schedule-wise, I couldn't be on teams and stuff. So I always viewed stunts as like my athletic outlet. So I love that. I love fight choreography. I've done a lot of weapons, training, and stuff like that. So I'm not Jason Statham, but you know, I can run. That's how you punch, right? Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:47:22 You asking me? Oh yeah, sorry. I'm not sure what, I feel like I'm missing something here. Olivia wants to know, bees. Am I missing, what's the bees reference? They are, they are, bees are, they exist. Okay, where are you, are you have a fear of bees? Fear of bees, no, I like bees.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Okay, cool. Wasps and hornets, however, yellow jackets. Yeah. Well, because also those things that don't help us. Like bees are like, we want to, you know, obviously they do a lot of important work. But the other ones, they just like, come at you. They're not pollinators. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Felicia wants to know if you could pick any Freddy's animatronic to be, who would you be in why? This is the kind of question you missed on the press tour. I know, right? Who would I mean? I like, Bonnie has the guitar, right?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Bonnie. Because she has a guitar. Right. I'm following. You can see they also didn't give me any press training.
Starting point is 00:48:28 No talking points. If I don't have talking points, like, I'm a liability. Like, it is not. Were they able, speaking, like, did you have a lot of other Hunger Games? Did they give you, were they able to tame you guys? Oh, I mean, they tried. I was going to say, it didn't feel like Jen was very tamed by whatever people were asked. Yeah, she's untameable in the best way.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It's not, I, they're like talking points where like, don't talk about, kids killing kids and I was always like well so um here's the problem with that is that that's kind of what is like a big part of this but they definitely like they weren't like hardcore like because you hear stories or like maybe it's like one of those mandela effect where you think something the thing but it's not but the idea of like people are like super trained on what they need to say and can't say I've never experienced that just like tried not to talk about kids killing each other Right. And The Hunger Games.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Right. Okay. 12 years later, we're able to do it finally. Exactly. Can't stop me now. I think Natalie has another quest Natalie. If you could remake and star in any cult classic movie, which one and why? Does anything jump to mind?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah. I would say Donnie Darko. Oh. Yeah. That movie, like, it was really impactful for me of wanting to explore kind of the darker side of like films and characters and the idea of like mixing like dreams and reality
Starting point is 00:49:59 and like understanding of what it means to exist and things like that. I just love that movie and and Jillen Hall is like I mean I shouldn't I wouldn't do it as well as obviously he does. I'll play Seth Rogan's character in it. You know Seth Rogan's that's his first movie.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I didn't think you'd know that. I can't get anything over on you, man. Donnie Darry and then you're like in Little Manhattan. Are you like, this is, come on. Like, I need the edgy stuff. This is actually enough for me. Well, it's funny, when I was like, when I was eight years old,
Starting point is 00:50:34 I was still in elementary school, if I had stopped doing school and started acting. And we were doing a play for Grandparents' Day, and it was like a musical thing. And they wanted us to sing these songs, and it was like, I think it was Greece or something. And I was refusing to do it at eight years old. at eight years old, before I was even an actor,
Starting point is 00:50:54 and they were like, why won't you sing the song? And I'm like, that's cheesy. It's cheesy. It's too cheesy. Right. And they were like, okay, just go on stage and like mouth watermelon. And it looked like you're saying. I was like, I'll do that. Watermelon, the whole time.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And afterwards, my grandma comes up and she goes, are you saying watermelon all the time? Because of course, grandma was just like laser-focused on her grandkid. So I've always had that like... Right. Subversive kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anti-authoritarian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Rachel from Kentucky. Hey. Wants to know, do you still have your yo-yo skills from the set of journey to the center of the earth? Ooh. Haven't picked up a yo-yo since that time in Cabo. I don't know. No, I... I...
Starting point is 00:51:40 It's been... It's been a while since I've, like... It's been a while since I've done this. I don't know. I haven't tried it in a long time. Okay. But that feels like the kind of toy that I have... would enjoy. Good old classic yo-yo.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yeah. Just a string and a really thing. How would that go, my friend? That'd be fantastic. This just him, the new toy is hitting the market. It's called the yo-yo. You're gonna know the cat's cradle. Oh boy. We're really not good for each other, are we? No. They knew. Yeah, they knew what they were getting into, right? Congratulations on all the success. It's been
Starting point is 00:52:22 too long. Five nights at Freddy's. Hopefully we're going to get that. We'll take your time. We want a good sequel. So you'll take a moment and hopefully we'll see more of that. You guys should check out The Beekeeper. David Aaron knows action. It's got a darkly comic bent. Statham knows what he's doing. This guy, who knew, can play an asshole. Amazing. Fantastic. Little old me. Can we listen to Flo Rida one more time before we go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So good. Is T-Bain? Can you blow my whistle, baby? Whistle, baby, let me know. I knew that. Do the flow-riders? Do you the floor? Do it?
Starting point is 00:53:05 I know. I was joking. Yeah, Josh. Yeah, Josh. I think it's going to go. Sorry. Whistle, baby. Whistle, baby.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, Josh Hutcherson, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All righty. Thank you guys. See it.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't pressure to do this by Josh. Are you looking for a movie review show where the critic is at the top of his or her game, meticulously breaking down and explaining exactly why a film does or does not work? Well, good luck with the search.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Because we're having fun here on Adam does movies. I talked to you like we just got done seeing a movie together, giving you the pros and cons, and I'm digging in the trenches, in the mud and muck, on streaming services, telling you which films are worth your time. Each and every week, I hit the big blockbusters, I cover the streamers, and I even tossed in some movie news for fun. Because this show as Adam does movies.
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