Happy Sad Confused - Juno Temple

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

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Keeley was such a light and she was such a light that just kept kind of reminding you to be kind to yourself. And that was something that I will forever be eternally grateful for because this star sort of aligned in a way that felt pretty, um, pretty important, actually. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. I'm Josh Horowitz. And today on Happy Sayer Confused, it's Juno. All the cool kids know for the last nearly two decades. She has been doing amazing work. My dog agrees. She's barking already.

Lucy's a fan. But in recent years, the one-two punch of Ted Lasso and Fargo have officially affirmed. Everybody knows it now. Juno Temple is one of the best out there. And she's on the podcast for the very first time. Welcome, Juno. What an intro. Thank you. Thank you so much. I had to freestyle when Lucy, my dog started to bark.

So that's how you know. It's like, it's real. It's actually in my brain. I love that. No, thank you for the time today. Have you recovered from your post-Sag track suit party? I have to say it took a good 24 hours, but I think that's also the adrenaline of that kind of an experience,

which never becomes easy, I don't think. But also the happy adrenaline of getting to see the whole TED group, who I haven't seen all of them together in quite a while. So it's like a double hit. It's nerves and then absolute joy. Yeah. And tracksuits. I was going to say, so like who offers that up?

Does that come up on the WhatsApp thread? It's like track suits? Yeah. Yeah, that's literally what happened. Oh, my God. You've been checking my WhatsApp. Something of a hacker too, by the way. Yeah.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. It came up as a thing that Jason, wrote to all of us saying so Nike wants to do that you guys say Nike here I was get a model Nike or Nike yeah Nike okay in England we say Nike and then there's Adidas and Adidas and I get them wrong all the time but um he said that they wanted to make custom tracksuits for us and no less custom AFC Richmond track suits so um yeah I think we were all pretty pumped for doing it but also nice to do something glamorous and fun for the actual awards and and then to get into something comfy so you can start dancing.

So are you, are you, are you a theme party lady? Like if someone says like 80s night, 90s night, like open up the Juno Temple wardrobe, she's ready? Yes. I mean, so I grew up in the middle of nowhere in the UK and we had a thing called a fancy dress box, which if you came to our house, you would be in some version of a character. That's how it, how it went, you know? And I used to have these crazy themed birthday parties.

I had, actually the really great one was I had this 16, Sweet 16, I had an Alice in Waddleland, Madhatt's Tea Party in the garden, and my little youngest brother was the little Dormouse, and of course I was Alice. And, yeah, fancy dress. Also, a big thing for me is that Halloween should be scary. I grew up with that, and I learned the hard way here when I first moved out to L.A. people don't necessarily do scary. And I remember going into my first kind of house party with red cups and all this. I was like, oh my God, what? This is like in the movies.

But I had gone as some kind of Victorian beast after a fresh kill. So I was reading this like, everyone's just got like a white sheet or a sexy librarian and you're like, totally. And people are literally like, what are you?

It's like mean girls, you know? And I was like, oh, oh, I'm the beast after a fresh kill. They were like, why? Yeah, so that was, yeah. But I still, I take, I take Halloween very seriously. That's one of my favorite, favorite moments, weekends, week, days, whatever it is. You celebrate for the month for three months right before and after. You go to the 99 cent store and it's like, I actually buy my dining room set and things from Halloween and Valentine's Day because they have some really good, awesome, like, tacky dope shit. I heard you, I heard you in a conversation saying how.

like horror is kind of like your comfort go to go to sleep genre and then I'm thinking which is which is fine I'm I get it to a degree but I think of the filmography and I've seen a lot of your work there's not a ton actually of I think of horns I guess maybe is something close to that but I'm kind of surprised we haven't had like Juno Temple scream queen happen to I'm not very good at screaming yeah isn't that that's the problem I'm not I'm not very good at screaming so I would have to be the person that was being scary or the creature that was being dangerous or the zombie or that I'd have to be the thing that people were frightened of. And so, yeah, hopefully I get to do that one day. But yeah, what's your go-to? What's your, are you like scream, Nightmare and Elm Street,

like Halloween? So I think personally that the original Texas Chainswell Massacre, the To Beaver 1 is a flawless. Well, that's a fucked-up movie because it's because it feels like you're watching a documentary. It's like, is this actually scripted or is this actually happening? It's crazy. And also, because it is so beautifully shot, I'm so obsessed. And this started at such a young age. I think homage to the Halloween costume. My dad showed me La Bella Labette, the Jean Cocktoe Beauty and the Beast when I was like four, five years old.

And I fell deeply in love with the Beast. And it, it... introduced me to lighting, too, in shadows and how lighting plays such an integral part on people's faces and makes emotions and makes tensions feel bigger in a space or can illuminate smoke and the shadow of the smoke against a wall, and so it heightens everything.

And I think Texas Chainsal Masker, I remember someone telling me that they did an art exhibition in New York somewhere where they had Texas Chainsaw Massacre playing without sound on white walls. And people walking around being like, Wow, wow. And then suddenly they turned the sound on. And it was like, boom. And that's what made it so terrifying. And I think, yeah, to me, it's pretty, pretty flawless movie. I also grew up in the original Michael Myers' house in LA. I heard this. That is, that is, what a crazy revelation. Trip. I know. What a trip. I mean, I didn't know that until I was an adult. But yeah, my parents were definitely thrown by it. But maybe that seat into my paws too.

Well, we need to get you. Yeah, Guillermo de Toro, be on the lookout. Juno is ready for you. Look at you. You're setting this like, hi. Might as well, hey, might as well go for the best. So, okay, so am I catching you like in between things? Like, where are you at in your life right now?

And how are you? The other thing that just jumped out at me when I'm like thinking back to all your work is like, you have been work, you work a lot. You have done a lot of work since, like, you hit the ground running about like 17, 18 years ago. Are you good with downtime? Are you just sort of like, what's next? What's next? I'm not great at downtime.

I'm not. I think I would like to get better at it as I get older. I really see with a lot of my friends that are in this industry, how much they appreciate their downtime and value it. And I think it's something that if I'm very beautiful, but I'm still not great to do that. That niggily thing about, oh, wow, it might never happen again. Oh, my God, that might have been the last.

time that hasn't gone away at all but um that's okay because i think the the joy of it is about being hungry to to step into the world of another extraordinary sometimes ordinary extraordinary sometimes extraordinary ordinary you know it's um a woman who teaches me a lot about about what it is to become a woman and i and i think um i think that's something that when you start really appreciating the downtime to that actually you're refreshed in a way where you can probably inhabit that next role even better. So I need to remember that that's also an integral part of what we do. It's, yeah, I mean, like for all of us, right, it's about finding that balance. And like, yeah, I've heard that from actors a lot. It's like, yeah, they have to refuel the tank.

Some of them feel that way. And I get that. I mean, I'm not an actor, but like I similarly feel like more, more and more because, yeah, like I'm so privileged to. be in the position I'm at, like, I just want to, you know, I mean, especially like where you're at right now, I totally get it. You're like, the opportunities are probably better than they've ever been. And it's like, now is not the time to like take a break. No, I want to, I want to work with the best. Yeah. Yeah. And make, you know, make people proud that ask you to come and join their incredible creations. And I think that's something that, um, I get a real, a real rush from when you collaborate with people, you know, I love, I love those moments of figuring out a

scene with your co-stars and having a great director guide you through it. It's just, I mean, it's, it's magic. It must be, I mean, segueing into Fargo, which I mean, I've loved all Noah's work through these, I guess, five seasons now. And I mean, you've heard this before, but this might be the best one yet, which is saying a lot. This is a fantastic season of television for those that haven't checked it out. And I would imagine when this comes around, it's like, it's probably like a progression of like excitement, right? It's like, okay, they want me in Fargo. Wait, it's the lead, essentially, in Fargo, amazing.

Then you, like, the character is amazing. And then, like, wait, John Hamm, Jennifer Jason Lee. It's like, it must be like stages of awesomeness, basically. Yeah, it was insanity. And I was actually shooting Ted Lassau whilst I had the first sort of initial conversations with Noah and then finding out that he wanted me to play Dot. And then it was. was a quick turnaround. We wrapped Ted Lassau and I think I had four days before I had to do my

first camera test and I think five days before I was on camera for Fogger. And yeah, so there was a funny moment in my flat that I was living in in London where there was Keeley, who's kind of from Essex and Juno and then the kind of beginnings of dot. So there was like four people living in the house because then they're crowded in there. Personal inside thoughts. Yeah, yeah, totally. And I remember there being this moment where I invited my brothers over for dinner and tested out for Minnesota on them. And they were both just like, how long have you got before you start? I remember this moment. Oh, my God. That's not the reaction I was looking for. No. Just testing you. Yeah. But it does, it must feel like, I know the

accents brought up a lot, but I get it because like it's such a, like when you're doing it in the moment, you must kind of feel like you're out on a limb. Like you're like, wait, is this going to, is this, is this working? Like, Noah, tell me this is working. Tell me this is good. Well, also, I think, you know, the extraordinary dialect coach that helped me through it. She called Liz Hemelstein. She has, she worked on the original movie of Fargo and has done all of the seasons, so she knows it through and through. And this is an interesting fact that she told all of us that If you watch the movie, the two girls who are from Bear Lake, the two prostitutes, are actually from that. So they are the two genuine accents in the original.

And I can hear their voices. Are wild. I know. I was going to say, I can hear their voices even now, 25 years, or 30 years later. And it's like, really? Like, come on. I know you're saying they're the legit ones. So you can't go too far.

You can't. And I think you want to, you want to be in a place where even if you do screw up. up like you you don't then screw up the whole scene for everybody so you kind of um because you know signing onto a project with noah is in itself its own kind of nerve-wracking overwhelmingly exciting journey you know it feels like going to your first day at university and your favorite lecturer is giving a lecture and and then you're sat in the front row you know it's like yeah yeah yeah and so you start with that and you then also i'm like you i've seen all of Fargo and and there are some of the most profoundly brilliant performances in television

history throughout the seasons of that show and the storytelling the way it shot the way the pace in which it moves and the continuation it was from the actual original movie which I don't think anyone would have thought was actually possible I mean I remember when it was first announced like any I mean Cohen brothers are arguably my favorite filmmakers of all times so it was kind of like okay they're not involved how is this actually going to work please it's a miracle The other thing that I love that applies to you, I think, is, like, they've done such amazing job of not only casting great actors, but casting actors in unlikely roles for them, given their resumes and really getting a chance to, like, see different shades of them. I mean, Dot. Yeah, I mean, this must have been so exciting for you because, like, you've been in some different kind of, like, I don't know, boxes might be a strong word, but you might have felt that way at certain points in your career.

But, like, being a mom, being a protector. There's a lot of new territory here. Yes? Hugely, I mean, beyond. First of all, starting from the fact that, yeah, being from somewhere with such an extremely different accent, that's just in itself immediately wanting to get comfortable enough where that doesn't feel like it's a performance, right? You have to let that go, so you get to that place. And then you're being somewhere where the terrain is so different.

I've never seen snow like that in my life. I thought that only existed in a snowcliff, you know? And then, yeah, she's a mom. and she's a mom that has a past and that must have been complicated when she first became a mother and then she's got these, you know, these little secrets that come out

throughout the show that then obviously you get the answers but so you know she's hiding things but you don't know if it's for good reasons, but you don't understand why. So it's about not not kind of allowing yourself to think too much ahead of where it's going to go for her just think about she knows what's happened, you know, and also action stuff, being like this little ninja as well as a mom.

100%. Yeah, this kind of motherly wife that cares so much about home, but then being able to defend her child and her husband and their home with everything she's got. So being this kind of surprise attack as well was something that, yeah, it was. Definitely a challenge, but also extraordinary to get to play. I mean, I feel like I could start my own kind of at-home DIY home invasion, you know, system to prevent break-ins. No one fuck with Juno Temple's home. Don't even think about it. I have to say, I mentioned some of the other cast.

Like, I grew up, Jennifer Jason Lee was one of the first actors. I became obsessed. I, I, I, I'm going to be stuttering now. I had a whole conversation with myself of like, don't blow it. You've got to be cool. You've got to be cool. You've got to be respectful because, you know, you never know how people want to work and da-da-da.

But she has been one of the most iconic, important actresses for me. I don't know if I can remember, to be honest with you. And so when you find out that you're not only going to be in the same show as her, but that you're going to actually have some other, like some of the most important trajectory. storylines with her and that you're going to get to work together in this extraordinary way. I was so excited and I cannot tell you more about how extraordinary she is.

As a woman, as a friend, as an actress, as like, she is mind-blowing. People say you shouldn't meet your heroes and I'm like, all right, you should. Is there a performance or film or two that jumps out that is meaningful? I mean, it started with, um, first times at Richmond, I started with that way back then, yeah. And I just think, I don't know if I've ever seen her in something where I don't think she makes every moment more spectacular and memorable, to be honest with you.

And, you know, her performances are so thoughtful. And they are so, she's so brave, I think. And I think that's something that I have always been really inspired by, actually. This episode is brought to you by Square. You're not just running a restaurant, you're building something big, and Square's there for all of it, giving your customers more ways to order, whether that's in-person with Square kiosk or online. Instant access to your sales, plus the funding you need to go even bigger.

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From my parents. I grew up, my dad is a film director, and he has this. extraordinary Laserdisc collection. And I wasn't, I didn't grow up watching TV. I wasn't really allowed to watch TV, but we watched a lot of movies. And so I grew up watching laser discs with my dad and it meant that I grew up kind of watching, you know, Hitchcock and like Powell and Pressburger,

like the Red Shoes, was one of my favorite films as a child, LeBella Labette. And these films that, you know, when I started watching it, I definitely didn't understand them entirely, but I just got lost in the magic of their visuals. and some of them, you know, I would get really emotional with.

And I wouldn't understand the story entirely. And that, I think, is about people's faces and how people move their body, their posture. Every ounce of their being is doing something that when you turn off the sound, you feel the emotions that they're feeling. And so that was the kind of entryway into film, is definitely a pretty great way to start.

And then it meant that I lived in the kind of, I always made make believe at home because I just thought that those stories were so extraordinary and colorful and emotional. And I wanted to exist in those worlds big time, you know? Right. It is always those ones that are like slightly too mature for us maybe I mean maybe it's two or three years

ahead of what we should be seeing but like yeah like I remember seeing like the fantastical worlds like Terry Gilliam when I was like 10 or 11 it's like yeah I don't quite get this but this is like but I'm feeling a lot. Yeah exactly yeah you get the like weird butterflies in your sunlight that you don't you don't

almost like being on a roller coaster by like good ones they're like whoa but then you know things like randomly I didn't watch any of those kind of classic action movies like lethal weapon or die hard or any of those until the pandemic

and then I got completely obsessed with them I was like oh my god oh my god mom have you seen lethal weapon she was like that's such my faith so I have kind of late late blossoming with that genre so I've been and I think you know Cohen brothers are obviously

they I've been watching them for as long as I can remember too and I think like you, I think they're some of the greatest filmmakers of our lifetime. So what is, you mentioned your dad, it was a filmmaker. What are the short-term or long-term effects of being cast by your dad, but then being cut by your dad, in effect? I learned the honest truth quickly. To the business, you know.

That could happen. It could happen at five, four and a half. I knew that. It means that I asked my dad so many questions still. I go to him for advice always and I just I'm really lucky to have a father

who is so true to his heart as an artist with his filmmaking because he's always sort of taught all of us don't do anything without being really passionate about it because people will be able to tell and I think that's a really great thing to remember because, you know, not every job is going to go your way

and not every job is going to be what you want to do, but you know that there is going to be somebody who is perfect to play that role and inhabit that person. And so that's an important thing to remember if you're getting into this industry, that it's like, wait until you see the final product because it will make sense, you know.

And I think that was a really important lesson early because it's, you know, of course it's things when something you really want doesn't go your way, but at the same time there's always a reason behind it that is about a kind of bigger picture, you know? And yeah, and then I think, you know, my dad taught me a lot about light and about camera angles

and about, you know, how you could do so little on film and people can capture it. So don't be afraid to have it be small. It doesn't all have to be big. And I think that was a really profound lesson, too. You know, I think a lot of people first clocked you, I did at least, in a couple of year period where you were popping up some really significant films opposite some insanely talented actors. I mean, I think back to notes on a scandal. My first job.

That was my first, yeah, other than my dad. Yeah, that was not. And soon thereafter, I mean, there's Atonement and you're, I mean, then at a Cumberbatch and Joe Wright directing. I mean, is there back then, is there imposter syndrome or is there the benefit of like, I'm so young, I don't know any better. I don't know if I belong here or not. Oh, I definitely think there's a bit of imposter syndrome, but also a bit of being just kind of overwhelmingly excited about what you're doing and wanting to be really great at it. But then things come up, like I remember on notes on a scandal, I got asked to do a wild line.

And I was like, I don't know what that means at all. And so I had Judy Danent to tell me what a wild line was. And so things like also not pretending that you know things. Because, you know, I started acting in those 16, which were great because I meant I didn't have to do schooling in the UK. But sometimes you can sort of pretend that you understand what people are saying at that age. And you can't, when you're stepping into an industry like this, I think it would be, you would get it wrong all the time.

I still get it wrong, you know, and I still have to ask all the questions. I know he'll tell you I ask a lot of questions. And, yeah, exactly like you said, you know, you do a movie like, No, it's on a scandal, which I went to an open audition for. And then you end up doing your kind of first project with, Kate Blanchett, who I again think will forever be one of the greatest actresses that ever walked planet Earth.

And watching her when I was young, I remember this moment of hanging out in the green room. And she was with her two little boys and not doing it. She was in her natural accent and they were playing around eating raisins. And she was just in mom mode and being so like in it with these little boys. And she was so gorgeous. She was so lovely and so welcoming and so cool. And then we got called to set. And it was about a minute, maybe a minute and a half walk from the green room.

And I was walking behind her on the way over. And I watched her sort of transform. And I remember just thinking, Oh my God. And it was a moment that was just for me. I just witnessed, you know, walking behind her. And it was, I mean, it shaped a lot of me as an actress getting to, you know, work with the people I did

when I was first starting out and that I would literally work with on anything, any day. I probably do craft service, you know, if I could get the green card to wherever, or the visa to wherever Cape Blanchet was working, I would do anything because it's like a master class in acting.

And grace, you know, I think she's got such a graceful way of approaching people and how she holds herself. And I think that's a really beautiful thing to be around too. Now, correct some lore for me. Is it true that in this period of time,

did you go up for Harry Potter? Were you up for Luna Lovegood? I did, but it didn't go very far. Okay. Do you remember anything from the audition process? Was it like a big deal at the time? It was terrifying. I mean, I still get like sometimes dry, he's nervous about an audition.

I, for some reason, but I think it's really important to do them because they, even if, even if you're like, this is a real long shot because it's an exercise in your cloth, right? And I love doing auditions with my friends. I love doing self-tapeated with them and I love helping out as much as I can.

But if you, yeah, if you're going up for something yourself, I find it, yeah, terrifying. But that I guess means also that you still care as much as you started out caring, yeah. So I remember, I just remember it coming into my universe and then I remember it didn't go very far. that's kind of what I remember. On a more successful note,

you do end up in a ginormous franchise in Dark Night Rises. Are you auditioning at that point for No one himself? What do you remember about getting that gig? I remember doing the audition for that. And I don't think Noah was in the room. You mean Christopher Nolan? No, I don't think he was in the room.

Not what I remember. but it was one of those things of um this would be really really cool it was well because actually the Batman movies were one of the franchises I had seen as they came out and I mean I think we'll all remember the Dark Night as a kind of a moment in time of being wow it just sort of felt like a real game changer of performances in the kind of franchise movies with all of those right It really felt like, wow, this is, this doesn't feel like it is a comic book. And that was a real kind of, or at least I felt that. I was like, whoa, that was, is this real?

Where is it? You know, it was a moment for me. And so then finding out that I was going to audition for the third one. And then getting that part was like, and that was the biggest set I'd ever been on. And I remember we was shooting one moment in downtown L.A. And when they said reset, seven blocks of downtown L.A. reversed. And I remember being like, oh, my God, what just happened? You know, I've never seen anything like that before.

Yeah. Magnitude of what, you know, the depth of each shot is so extraordinary because every detail is actually created by him and his team. And then you have, again, some of the greatest actors ever that you get to kind of watch do their thing and share a moment with, which was, yeah, I've been so lucky with the cast that I've gotten to work with and with director actually. I've worked with some of the most amazing people I really have. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that

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I don't know for you, it feels like it was coinciding with these crazy COVID years and part of it is I think part of why and how people discovered it and latched on to it in such a profound way. But you're obviously, this is still fresh for you. I mean, does it feel like, I don't know,

have you had a time to reflect yet on that experience? Oh, I reflect on it often because I, I love playing Keely. She was one of the characters I've had in my life that could play some dark, some dark girls, some girls going through some complicated dark things. and I'm not a method actress like it's not that I'm in character all the time but I definitely am a little bit method so without meaning to be it's not like a thought-out thing

it's just you can't help but let that person under your skin you know and so Keeley coming into my universe which I would never have thought was going to be a thing ever and then to have her be who I was living with whilst we were going through these crazy years in the world of a pandemic, which is something I think anyone in their lifetime thought we would be going through and how many people kind of realize that they have, you know, maybe they do battle with things

that are alien words to them like anxiety or just mental health in general, which I grew up talking very openly about. But it doesn't mean I wasn't affected by it. I was deeply and I can go really dark and Keeley was such a light and she was such a light that just kept kind of reminding you to be kind to yourself and that was something that I will forever be eternally grateful for because this star sort of aligned in a way that felt pretty um pretty important actually yeah and and and that was just my personal relationship with my character let alone the cast that I got to go and work with every day and the stories that we were telling and how it this line of, I mean, proper comedy, which was terrifying for me,

but then also real human shit. And I think it really did that extraordinarily well. And it was, I think that's also what surprised people, right? I think it was something that just as it was about to become like real slapstick comedy and just continue on that journey, it would take this crazy turn. And then suddenly you'd be dealing with really important human thoughts and feelings. and pains and yeah and then it would turn that corner again when it was about to get real serious right and i think that that was something that um people connected with because we all kind

of do that we have to laugh through the things that are really difficult otherwise they'll break us right and um but if we don't actually realize them and laugh about them then they'll break us too so it's kind of the important line to dance and um And Hannah Woodingham, she has like, that's what I was going to say. So change my life. I love her so much. It does feel like it reminds you of like the scene in like stepbrothers when the two characters see each other and say, can we be, can we be best friends? Like it feels like you have a friend for life. There's a soulmate. And yeah, for real. And I'm curious like like in terms

from from a character perspective, did that relationship, did the relationship off screen influence that relationship on screen to the writer? right to that personal relationship as well, you think? Yeah, I've been told that that was the case. You know, I think there were storylines that they wanted to have. But then when you see people's chemistry and you see how that goes, you then kind of bleed that into the storyline. And, you know, me and Hannah, I remember landing in London

and then I had to go straight and Heathrow to the studios that we were at to do a read-through, which was one of those, it was, you know, pandemic stuff. So it was all around this table with big computer screens zooming with like the whole Apple film TV team. And so it was intimidating. And it was jet lagged and like, oh my God. And coming in to read a comedy show, I was like, this is a disaster. And then I went, I went to the bathroom and that's where I'm not on that.

Before we sat down to do the re-through and it was this moment where we were both. And it's like, by, you know, by the little vanity mirrors and some kind of bad, fluorescent lighting or whatever. And we both a bit like, and then turned and just went, hi. And it was, and that was the beginning of it all, to be honest with you. Because it was just that connection immediately before going in and putting on your like big girl face, like, this is a little determination, we're going to nail it. And then you already have a buddy, you have a, you have a, you have a sisterhood immediately.

And it's one that just grew and grew and one that I don't think I could live without, no. I mean, talking about, I don't, I don't want to live without it. Not an option at this point. I mean, it does be like speaking of sisterhood. I mean, like, you know the profound effect this has had, especially on a lot of young women. I have two nieces that I'm earning a lot of street credit with today by talking to Keeley.

Gemma and Mika are your biggest fans. Gemma and Mika, thank you. They will die for that. I'm getting cool uncle credit today. Thank you. They, of course, want to know. This is not on me. So don't blame me for the question.

What's up with? the spin-off. They want the women's soccer spinoff. It feels like it's, it's destined to happen, but it sounds like this is not like a real thing, at least not yet. This is just something that who knows? This is something that I'm, I'm kind of in the same boat, everybody else, to be honest with you, in the sense that we haven't been told anything, but also nobody said no about anything. So it's kind of like, maybe it would happen. But if it doesn't, it's a really nice thought and it feels like you know I think that that relationship on camera between keely and Rebecca was something that after the first season came out and people started watching

and it kind of became a show that people were talking about and then you have women talk to you about how much it meant to see two women not be up against each other and not be kind of behind each other's backs or not being kind of put down all of the things that we see off in film and TV and it's like it does get boring because you know what you've also got to have your girlfriends in your life that for me my world wouldn't rotate the same way if I didn't have them they are so important and and that is something that I think as you know as we put things out into the world I think it's important to show the positive as much as the negative 100% okay a couple quick things before I let you go

coming up, we're going to see you in a much different kind of a movie coming out later this year, the third Venom film. I mean, Tom Hardy, they don't make him like Tom Hardy. He's a very unique soul on and off the screen, I know. Yeah. How would you describe the Tom Hardy experience?

What was it like? Actually, it was, again, I'm not going to lie, I may have stepped onto an even bigger set then the Batman movie that I was in, this set was insane and the creativity behind it was like, so the first firstly you kind of walk into that

like wow, wow, wow this is, oh my God, this is really big, okay, and then Tom is so he's such a fan of Venom and the relationship between Eddie and Venom and he's so excited about telling the story

and he's just so thrilled to have everyone be a part of telling that story. So he's feels kind of like a kid on the first day at school. And that's a pretty good energy to start a job like that with, because it's intimidating again, too, you know? And, but then when you have Venom himself, be as excited as you are and also as kind of nervous as you are because you all care, it feels like, oh, all right, I'm in the right place.

Did you have a sense of, like, tonally, what to go for? Because those first two films are very unique. There's, like, there's dark comedy to it. Like, was it easy to key into sort of what Tom and Kelly wanted to do? I mean, they're both, but they were so communicative, too, of if you had any questions, that that was an easy, easy fix. But I think it's hard because I can't, I don't know how to answer these things without doing anything that might get me cut out of the movie, you know.

So, but I will say that, yeah, you have to be aware of where your character fits and the world and aware of where they're you know going to fit at the end of the movie in the world and and so it's um i mean it's like it's like any any job you know you want to you want to make the world feel like the audience are going to get lost in it you want it to feel real even though it can be potentially um fantastical being said i feel like they're you know That could be some truth for some of the things going on. That's kind of crazy. We still don't know who you're playing.

I mean, I mean, in this age where, like, everything spills, well done in keeping the secret. I'm good at keeping secrets. I think secrets are important to keep. And then is the next shoot? Are you doing the score of Rubensky movie? That's exciting. I mean, this guy's a very interesting filmmaker.

I mean, yeah, he should be working more. It's been a minute, I know. And you've got some of my favorite people, Sam Rockwell, I mean, is like my spirit. I'm, like, so excited to have been asked you part of that cast. And Gore, I'm, yeah, I'm really excited to work with, too, because I think he's another artist that really stays true to his kind of heart of his creativity. And, um, uh, oh, now knowing what I know about you, I bet you were a fan of a cure for wellness.

It wasn't for everybody, but his last movie is so fucked up and amazing. I loved it. I loved it. And I remember I stumbled upon it kind of by accident, actually. And I was like, what the fuck? How do I want to know about this? And then I thought that film was beautiful. And yes, fucked up.

But made you think. You know, I think it's always a good thing to have a story that makes people think. Yeah, big swings always. Okay, we're going to end with the happy, say, confused, profoundly random questions. Here we go. Juno, dogs or cats. Where do you stand? Um.

Maybe a cat. If you'd ask me, last week, I may have to set a dog, but I think maybe a cat. Okay, okay. Do you collect anything? Yes. Vintage clothing and vintage Playboy pieces. Sorry, I panicked with the last one. I've got some, yeah, vintage Playboy lamps and things.

I like, yeah. Hysterical, amazing. Okay. What's the wallpaper on your phone? It's my fiancé in Calgary where we shot Fargo talking to the actual skeleton of the Tyrannosaurus rex that they recreated in Jurassic Park. Because they have it in Drumhella in, I can tell you,

in Drumhella just outside of Calgary. I'm a dinosaur not. There it is. Hey, they're making a new Jurassic too, Juno. get in on that. I asked about that with the Jurassic World. I would die. I would literally die.

I love dinosaurs and I have forever. Are you good at running away from things that aren't there? I did a lot of my own running in, in Fargo, actually. So I can run if I'm being paid or chased. Not as a choice. Last actor you were mistaken for? Do you get mistaken for anybody? somebody stopped me not that when we go and ask if I was Juno Templeton okay so close so close

so close what's the worst note a director has ever given you um I I don't love okay same same but different yeah can we get a little more than that a little more specific info don't know that yeah uh in the spirit of happy second few is an actor who always makes you happy. You see them on screen. You're giddy. Um, um,

Margo Ropee. Always happy. Sounds like you won in on three, too. Oh, yeah. What's a movie that always makes you sad? James and Demandment. That's mine. Kills me.

The music kicks in. I put it on. to have one of those like feral breakdowns when you need it because it is undeniable and a food that makes you confused food that makes you confused um anchovies is it the slimyness or the salts or just a little bit of everything it's

I just don't know why you'd eat them because they don't you don't do anything for you got it yeah it's fair it's fair um it's been a pleasure juno we have powered through my dog Lucy's worst behavior ever on a happy, say, confused episode, but it was worth it because we got to know each other a little bit today. Yeah. It was definitely worth it.

Congratulations, honestly, on everything. The most two recent works are fantastic, of course, as is everything. But everybody, if you haven't checked out Fargo, Ted Lasso, as if it needs any more plugs, but it's amazing. Thank you so much for the time. Thank you. Thank you for having me. And I was thrilled that Lucy wanted to be a part of it today.

So thank you both. She's a big fan. We both are. Love it. Thanks. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person.

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