Happy Sad Confused - Kristen Stewart

Episode Date: October 13, 2014

Kristen Stewart stops by Josh's office this week! Kristen's got three movies coming out soon, "Camp X-Ray", "Still Alice", and "Clouds of Sils Maria". Kristen explains to Josh why LA is better than he thinks, why she feels so comfortable with film crews, and whether Jared Leto's hair haunts her dreams. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey guys, welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. I'm Josh Horowitz. For those of you that have been listening to the podcast, thanks for continuing. And for those of you who are new, welcome aboard. This is a good place to start off, because this week's guest, every week we try to talk to some of the most interesting actors and filmmakers working today, and this week's guest certainly fits the bill. Since I started the podcast, a few names have definitely bubbled up on Twitter for

people that people want me to talk to, and I am very happy to deliver one that has been very much requested. This week's guest is, of course, Kristen Stewart, who, you know, she's still so young, but has just crafted such an amazing career. I mean, even, you know, throw away the Twilight movies, which you shouldn't, because they are a huge part of pop culture in the last five, ten years. But, you know, films like Panic Room way back when and Into the Wild Adventureland and three movies that we actually touch on here today all speak to her talent in front of the camera and her interest and willingness to push herself in really cool areas. Kristen is certainly unique.

You know, I've had a chance to probably, I feel like I've talked to Kristen Stewart maybe more than any other journalist on the planet thanks to MTV. long coverage of Twilight and it's it's been great to kind of get to know her over the years and to see her grow and hopefully you're going to hear a more candid relaxed Kristen than maybe you're expecting to you know sometimes on talk shows she can seem a little bit ill at ease because frankly that's not her favorite place to be but this is an extended conversation and I think you'll get to know the Christian Stewart that I know a little bit in this one three movies I want to mention here, one of which is coming out pretty soon, Camp X-ray, which is a really interesting small film what Kristen did about her, the character's experience as a Guantanamo Bay

Guard. That comes out October 17th in a limited release, also on VOD. I also got a chance to see a movie called Still Alice, which you guys are going to hear a lot about, which opens up in December with Kristen and Julianne Moore as a woman with early onset Alzheimer's, out bald ones in it. It's a really heartbreaking movie, but a really well-done one. And we also talk a little bit about Clouds of Sils-Maria, which has been kind of doing the festival circuit, in which Kristen is great, and she plays the personal assistant to a big movie star,

played by Juliet Binoche. So it's kind of cool to see Kristen back in, kind of like independent film, you know, the independent film world she's definitely comfortable in. And just a treat to have her in my office to shoot the shit a little bit. I hope you guys enjoy this conversation. as always hit me up on Twitter Tell me what you think

Spread the word My Twitter handles Joshua Horowitz And subscribe to us on iTunes Okay guys But without any further ado Here is the lovely Kristen Stewart Are you taking me in my office

What are you fine This is your office? Oh wow What do you think Does this reflect me that you imagined It's cute It's funny I mean the lion's lair

That's my nickname around Hollywood, The Lion. The Lion. Yeah. Among other things. It's funny, yeah, it's good. Do you have an office? Do you have, like, other?

I do have an office in my house, yeah. And what's in it? Lots of keepsakes, lots of framed photos, like gifts off from movies and stuff. Do you make a point at this point now for each film to keep a mental or does it just kind of happen naturally where you have something that just kind of emerges?

happens pretty naturally sometimes I get to the end of something and I go I don't have anything and then I make it a point to grab something yeah so I mean obviously you know your your parents obviously were and are in the in the industry and I would think that given what they do and what they did do you feel like that affected kind of like your attitude on sets like do you have a greater appreciation of like the crew and sort of like everyone's role on a set yeah I mean my first step into the business was solely because because I idolized my parents and thought it was so cool

that they went to work and came home with so many stories and lived such rich lives that not everyone's parents can say that they love their job the way that my parents did. And I was always so curious about what they did when they went off for 18 hours a day or when my mom went to Thailand for three months and then came back for six. It was like, you know, something that I wanted to be a part of.

And so yeah, I think, Also, I would have done anything, you know, I feel like a crew member on movies. Like, I hate that separation that sometimes is, like, forced upon, you know, people are intimidated and think that there's this dividing line between, like, you know, the actors and the director and the producers, and then the crew, I just, I try to abolish that immediately. As soon as I get on a set, it's like, no, man, we're all doing this very much together. Yeah. That must piss you off when you see.

I'm sure there are experiences when there's an actor or whatever. We're not going to name names, but when they're, like, holier than now and think that they're... It's just awful. It just makes for a... Nobody wants to be around that. Nobody's going to feel proud and happy at the end of a day to think that we all contributed and did something cool

and learned and blah, blah, blah. It just is like, yeah, it's a bummer. I hate... I've been lucky, though. I haven't really worked with assholes. A couple, but I can't even remember, yeah. So what was the... Do any of the...

visits to any of those sets of your parents strike a significant chord growing up? Was it one in particular that jumps out at you? My mom worked with a director named Brian Levant for a number of years who did, like, kids movies. Yeah, and so I was like, it was so, I was an extra in the Flintstones.

There was just one day where I was like, this is so cool, and he was like, go put on a tunic. And I was like, yes! I don't know, like Christmas movies. I remember, I think she did Jack Frost. That was really fun seeing, like, a fake snow set. Yeah. So, tell me this.

So, like, the first, okay, so you had a bunch under your belt already, even by the time you did Panic Room, right? But was Panic Room something like the first one where you were, like, a keynote member where you're doing press for the movie, and you're kind of like a part of kind of the talent, quote and quote, that is helping promote it? Yeah, I did one movie before Panic Room. and so my first taste of having to do interviews about movies was on that. And even then, like, it started there. I was so scared. I just, like, I just took it too seriously.

I remember I did this interview in a surf shop in the valley, like down the street from my house because, like, a friend owned it. And I walked in and they were setting up, like, chairs and cameras and microphones. And, like, you know, I was 11 or 12 once a movie finally came out, and we started doing stuff for it, I was, like, baffled by my responsibility to sell and talk about this personal experience. Yeah, it's still kind of baffled me, but, like, it, you know.

So was, what about the actual experience? Because I know you've talked up, obviously, over the years a lot about panic room, but it strikes me, like, Fincher is not the typical experience for any actor. I just saw Gone Girl, which is amazing. I don't know if you've seen it, so good. But, so, like, at that point,

Did you realize, even then, having done a little bit before then, that this was an anomalous kind of experience, the way he obviously puts actors through the paces in a good way and does a lot of takes, et cetera? Right. I knew because of my mom's experiences with making movies, it was definitely an elevated, much more intensive, vigorous experience. Yeah.

We shot for so long, too. I was on that movie for like a total of eight months, or something like that right and we rehearsed for two weeks then Jody came on like it was it was this huge really long it was like a huge chunk of like a school year for me right did Jared's dreads make an impression I still they haunt your dreams dream of you know maybe one day being able to pull those all it could be your next hairstyle yeah it'll be like spring breakers exactly I'll get a grill amazing So what was like, were you ever trying to, like, was the goal ever to do like a TV series or anything like that?

Like a lot of actors out in LA was like, oh, they need to get on the, was that ever part of it or was that just something that even then you were like, that's not necessarily my thing. When I was really young before I did my first few jobs, I would audition for commercials and just anything that would, anything that came up. I was not good at it and I wasn't into it I I had so much fun auditioning for movies even the year that I auditioned sort of you know it sounds silly now it was a year I was nine but I thought it was a long time but like you know to no avail I had so much fun just sitting with directors and rooms and auditioning scenes and I and I absolutely hated going in for anything that wasn't you know like creatively infused with this energy was just like so obvious even when I was little it was like it was the early BS detector was

already coming yeah I want to do a TV series like but I would have if I was younger you know before I just got lucky I just started doing features really young and so that's where I stayed so what happens or happened like when that kind of thing clicks in your brain for yourself or another actor in the scene like do you, do you, like, scream at all? That fucking just didn't feel real, like, do you, like... Yeah, constantly. There are usually, typically at the end of a movie,

like at every rap party, there is a montage cut together for people to watch and laugh at. Of me, just going, no, fuck, that was wrong. No, liar, liar. Yeah, I can't go forward. And, you know, a lot of times, like, I all have directors say, like, just hold it, it's fine. I really, I liked it.

You know, maybe you lost it for a second, but there was a chance to find it again. And if you keep cutting yourself off, like, you know, just don't be so conscious about it. And so I was like, I'm trying to get better at going forward with things that aren't working. But typically it's better to not leave that bad taste in your mouth and feel silly.

You never want it to be like, you know, you're treading on something that you, you know, there's an honor to it. And I feel like if you mess it up, it's like, let's not, let's like forget that. Yeah. Yeah, start again. So is there been an impulse or a push or a pull then to like push yourself way, way, way out of your comfort zone and something crazy? You know, say like tomorrow to do like the Judd Apatow comedy that no one would necessarily predict for you. I would love to do something like that.

I would jump in head first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would just, you know, it's about like finding the right people. It's about being comfortable and, like, you know, it's, I just did a movie with Drake Dremis. And I absolutely love him as a filmmaker. His approach is like really, really coincides with mine, but also like I've had so many people say,

we're going to have a genuine experience. You know, there's no expectation here, there's no pressure. Whatever we wind up doing is what the movie is supposed to be. This is us. We're going to put ourselves up there. That is it. No one ever really follows through with that. There's always expectation.

There's always that line or some beat or this emotional, thing or like you know he he really likes to have an experience and then figure out what that is sort of like afterwards and and you know um just impulse shapes the movie and so what I'm saying is like that's it I would I would love to do a comedy if it was like uh that that also felt because I would feel so much pressure yeah I would just be like oh I'm not funny I can't I don't know how it would have to just be like no don't even fucking think like that and just do it like so I'd have to be with someone really good so the did the Drake one was there a script for that like what does it look like is there like an outline or a

script because I know yeah he does have been he worked on script just for the first time okay typically he uses an outline but yeah I mean the script was sort of you read it once to know what you're doing and then we never I mean it was the script sort of informed like what we were supposed to do but never what we were supposed to say you know what I mean it's like and you and you shot that where like Singapore where were you this summer what was going on we were in Tokyo mainly and then um basically it was like a month in Japan and a month in Singapore it's going to be amazing it was incredible it was like I mean it was like we were on vacation the entire time because we bounced around um we were

like on awaji island and um we went to like drove through Kyoto and like I had never been anywhere but Tokyo and it's like it's one of my favorite places in the world I love Japan I love in the lifestyle. I love the people. I've never encountered anyone that I had a strange, uncomfortable, disrespectful thing. They just really know how to live. They've got it all figured out there. Breaking news.

Moving to Tokyo. Can I visit? I've never been. Oh, you would really like it. It's so fascinating. That was my first rush of Asia recently, and that was intense, but it's totally different. It's totally different. So different, yeah. It's like a city of the future. Singapore is, for sure. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I think it's only like 50 years old, and it's basically malls and skyscrapers that look like it's from eagles, like from the movie.

Like it literally is a futuristic city. Amazing, yeah, my movie saturated mind. I just imagine walking to Blade Runner. I'm going to Blade Runner. Totally. So we were talking about kind of like that, yeah, we'll search for authenticity on a set. Like, does it also apply to kind of the actors that you've always kind of gravitated towards, whether as a fan or one? want to work with. Definitely. I mean like the Sean Penns and I got to work with De Niro for a second on that film. Is that safe to say? Absolutely. I have a lot of respect for people that can, you know, create characters that are entirely different to them. I just feel like

it's a little psychotic and a little not real. It's cool. It's just not what I, it's not my favorite. My favorite thing is not to watch someone think of something, package it, and then deliver it to perfectly I want to see you like surprise yourself and I want to see I want to see someone scared and like you know so I think people like that are usually a little bit more willing to do that so what are the actors that you've seen up close to actually work opposite that or you what it goes through your brain you're like that's that's that's the technique is kind of what I aspire to what their bravery or etc. Julianne more absolutely yeah yeah and Juliet at

Inouche even though they are really different their styles are you know they're approaches are entirely different. Had you met Julian way back when you worked with Bart? Because that was a catch that kid, right? That was Bart's film. Yeah, love Bart. I love that family. It was so cool to work with her.

It was like, you know, I've been really lucky. The women that have played my mothers in movies I've gotten, I've just worked with insane, incredible people. But with her, like, it was, she was, I want her to be my mom. I love my mom, but I would like to have two. Like, she's, it was so easy. It was, like, breathing. It was, yeah.

And let's talk a little bit about Sils Maria, which is great, too, and I love your role in that one, and it's, I can only imagine the fun you had with that kind of role. So, and Julia, so Julia, it makes you laugh. I know, that one scene is still, is just like, there's some lines in there that just feel so, like, you must have just rattled something in your brain, like, where this could just come out of my mouth anyway.

I was giddy saying the lines. It was, you know, it was like it was tailored to me, but it wasn't. I mean, he wrote the script, didn't have me in mind at all. Yeah, no, that was hilarious. And it was so interesting to talk about on set, too. Like, it makes the movie more relevant and interesting because you just sense that I know what I'm talking about. You know what I mean?

Rather than having someone just saying lines, I don't really have familiarity with, Like, I'm saying, I literally had to keep the smile off of my, I had to keep, like, the blood out of my cheeks. I was, like, turning red. I was like, oh, ha, ha. This is hilarious. It's also awesome because it captures what must be a very unique, strange kind of relationship between, you know, actor and personal assistants, et cetera,

where it must blur, in some cases, blur the line between the friendship, but, you know, you're paying that person, too. You're in their employee. Yeah. Is that something that has been, is that weird for you? probably had some help over the years in terms of like assistance like that. Yeah. Did that kind of...

My assistant was like my, you know, he became my best friend for years. He still is. Yeah. Did it ever get weird? Is there ever a moment where it's like, wait? No. I need to raise. I'm like you're my friend, but wait.

Yeah, we just didn't... I want to work with him. I want to make movies with him. You know what I mean? It was just a certain point. It was just like, I don't want to... I definitely don't... You definitely don't want to be working.

for me quote unquote anymore like done done done you're my friend this is it let's like go forward yeah but no it's weird especially in this case with uh sills um you've got a woman who's like really kind of lonely and isolated anyway right and so codependent that relationship is just like you know they're both mutually fascinated with each other and so that's like it's it's it is a lot more than professional but that happens all the time i see it constantly like after assistant dynamics are interesting like they're everything to each other right literally like they fulfill so many roles like fulfill so many um you know like you go to the basic relationship relationships in life like sister friend mom both of them for each other like

sometimes I'm her mom sometimes she's mine like it really you know yeah was a was Benosh an intimidating actress to work with I mean I don't know if it's the French thing or just her body of work or just her in the air about but to me she would scare the shit as many out of me I think if she sat down here um yeah I mean she would also you she would also like bewitch you because she's you know incredible she's everything you fantasize about like you're like so she must be she must be really heady and and like you know eccentric and kind of kooky and intimidating and you know sits there with like her cigarette and her coffee in the morning and it's just like

everything you would expect that iconic French actress to be because she's so smart and expresses herself in a way that is so not American it's like so lofty and she reveals you to you like it's like she pulls

you right out of whatever she cuts through a lot of instantly everyone is just like like heart is just like on the table and it's it's a serious like power Yeah, she's got, she's, she's a powerful woman. Do you keep that kind of, that cliched,

this is one of those cliched interviewer questions, I don't know why I'm asking it, but like that cliche kind of, what's the other actors that you want to, that you're dying to, work with, or no? I mean, yeah, I'm sure that if we thought about it, that there's a ton of, I want to work with him again. I love Michael Shannon, yeah. Amazing, right?

He's so, yeah, he's so rad. Talk about a presence, though, when he walks in the room. I know, even physically, so huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. So these three films, because, you know, there was a break that wasn't, I know, like, I don't think it was a plan necessarily. Did these all come kind of relatively in quick succession? I know X-ray was the first one, right, after a bit of a break?

Yeah. X-ray I had read, and then we started making it. And the other projects I had, I think I had read Still Alas ages ago. And, you know, it's just some of these movies take some time to put together. Did you shoot that one here in New York? Yes, first time. I've never really shot a whole movie here. I was going to say, I can't recall you being here

for a significant period of time with that. It was great. I really loved it. So what do we have to do to get you to move here? I know you're born and bread. I love L.A. man. I love it. I love New York, too.

I'm here a lot, you know? It just seems, knowing, again, to go back to the BS detector. Maybe this is a cliche as a New Yorker, and I have a bias against L.A. You do, and it's sad. because it's so not full of S. Yeah, no.

It's rad. Honestly, like, it has a bad rap, and I think that, like, most people that don't like L.A., at least within our industry, it's because they go for work or they go knowing certain people. Like, you think everyone is in the business there. It's so not the case.

Like, you know, you grow up, you go to high school there. Most people that you know have nothing to do with the movie industry or them use anything. You know what I mean? They're just, like, normal. people living in Los Angeles that are not fake weird jamba juice drinking I'm clearly hanging out in the wrong circles yeah exactly I don't know um you know would you just not just haven't tapped into the cool side okay give me a list of

the cool places to go help me out is is what about the prospect of whether it's in New York or somewhere else is theater something that you think about I haven't seen much of it I there's something the nature of what that is not jive with like your process, you think, or does it feel like something you'll get to at some point or not, it's just not on a list for whatever reason? I think because I'm so not familiar with it, I just haven't really considered it.

Yeah. It's, I love working really hard, and I like consistent work, and I'm definitely not intimidated by the workload, but it's different. I like sort of like stints of, of hard, hard, hard, hard, yeah, and then done.

And I also, I really, really love the privacy of it. Right. Not to say you don't have that in rehearsals and stuff, you know. But I would be willing to try it, absolutely. I think one thing I might love is to feel, you know, sometimes pressure is a huge, like, motivator. I think if there were 100 people in front of me, it would be like, you better go.

Right. You better go now. Do you know what I mean? And so that I would like to feel what that feels like. And I love the continuity of it, being able to tell a story from start to finish every night and have the entire experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That'd be interesting. It's interesting, because I was just talking to somebody else about, like, they were asking me if I get nervous for interviews, and I feel like it's comfortable to what you were just saying. It's because, and maybe you can sense this about me after these years, like, outside of interviews, I'm not, like, a necessarily social person, and I feel like I'm overcompensating everything by, like, putting myself in these crazy situations

and crowds and stuff. It's just like, it's like psychically just getting through shit. Totally. It doesn't seem like it's the most, it is weird. You're not like somebody who seems like they were like, I am going to become. Oh, I want to be Ryan's secrets. I want to be, yeah, exactly.

No. No. Well, yeah, I mean, I can completely relate. That's how I feel most of the time. Like not on a set, but when I'm doing any bit of press, like I'm about to go do Fallon. And that 10-minute period is already like making my hands off.

Are you doing a bit? Are you going to do anything or just the interview? Oh, I don't want to spoil it. No, I'm not doing anything. I'm just going to hang out. Because when you do your first bit, you're doing it with me, not Fallon. You got it. What do you mean bit? Let's do a bit now. No, I can't. No, genuine experience.

Genuine experience. It will be a genuine experience, but we're going to rip. Michael Shannon. He played a non-sexual est work for me. That is really funny. He was amazing and scary all the same time. Are you... Emma Stone blew me away. When she went on Ballin and did that lip-syncing thing,

I watched pretty much all of them now on YouTube. I am, honestly, I bow to her. There is nothing. She has complete... I've always been a huge fan. I think she's hilarious. But, like, that was... I could never...

I just... There's just no fucking way in hell. Like, I'm so blown away by that performance. like I just saw her last night in Birdman oh yeah oh my god is that a good movie it's the best movie I've seen this year it's amazing it's somewhat of a continuing with shot right I've heard that it sort of like and I'm such a geek for that like I grew up like I don't know if you ever watched like any of Brian De Palma's stuff like totally into all that and this is supposedly one

good it's not one thing was shot of course but it masks it throughout with some seamless editing and but the filmmaking the performances is so cool amazing. What are you, are you watching much of anything, TV film? What are you peeking out on right now? I've had, I've been off for a week, so I, no, not yet. So you haven't caught up on everything? What? Yeah, no. Is there a list? Is there a TV show that's like, oh God, I better get through that. I haven't seen, yeah, House of Cards, I haven't seen that yet. Yeah, I just worked with an actress that was on it too for a little bit, so nice. Yeah, I want to see it. I would put, throw in Fargo in there, which. Really? That was so

strange when I saw the billboards for that. I was like, what? I know. What? And it's really good? It's one of the best things I've seen. That's one of my favorite movies ever. And it's weird, it's not like a sequel, it's just kind of like a riff off of Fargo, which is amazing. Are you, in your week off or in your downtime on sets? Have you been, are you writing? Are you kind of like playing around with stuff?

And what kind of stuff? Like when you have your downtime, what are you trying to creatively do outside of acting? Well, as you know, I write a lot of poetry, so I still do that. And I have something prepared for you today. I actually read one of them in equals and it just made me, I was such a vulnerable little moment for me. I was like, come on, just do it. It was cool.

I wrote my short finally. There's just this little thing that I want to do. You directed it recently for the first time. You directed the music video. Yeah. What? Nothing. It was awesome.

I had a great time. I just kind of followed my friend around for a bit and cut together. or like a short montage of like her life and yeah that's it it was really fun I was like I was in Nashville and LA and drove all over the place and yeah it was awesome between that and the Jenny Lewis music video you're just knocking everything off the bucket list there's gonna be nothing left for you next year that was so much fun oh my god I was that like that was another like just do it like because initially I was like I could never I can't even imagine talking to you know what I mean like so I couldn't I couldn't say no

performance in it is something that like felt I don't even know what that was gonna be she was just like just come on we're just gonna hang out and like shoot some stuff and I was like I don't really know what that means but like I can't say no after I talked about you in a thousand interviews I can't ruin my life and say no to that I have to do myself a favor and like just do it right but yeah no it's it was awesome cool who's Anne Hathaway was in that what was Brea Barsen yeah she's amazing too right she's so cool yeah that was a really good day rad chicks all around yeah yeah So what, um, speaking to Brad Schicks, like it struck me whenever, like, this got a lot of attention, when like Emma Watson went out in front of like the UN and made this amazing speech, got all attention. Yeah, that was cool too. Amazing, right?

Yeah, she's awesome. Do you feel like at this point, like are you, I mean, you've been through such like a crazy ringer in terms of media insanity? Like, do you feel like you could ever do something comparable to that at this point? Like when you feel comfortable being more outspoken in that way, whether it's, whatever issue you're into

the time you know what I mean right like it's just not you and again you need to be you at the end of the day right I would I would love to I would love to like spearhead projects and I would love to fund certain things I'm never gonna stand up in front of the UN and make a speech that's just really probably not gonna happen you know I had an offer for you unless something happened yeah you know I respect the hell out of her. I think she's, I think that was awesome. Yeah. I, yeah, I mean, you can like affect change without being. Yeah, there are a thousand ways. Yeah, exactly. But, you know,

who knows? Maybe something will happen and I'll feel, you know, moved to, like, you know, shout from the rooftop something, but I'm not sure what that is yet. When you got the, on the caller ID or whatever, and it said like Stephanie Meyer or Summit or whatever, Twilight, were you like, oh, Jesus, where we go again? Recently. Recently? Yeah, well, I'm sure they, however they reached out to you and asked about the whole, the whole, judging the whatever we want to call it, were you like, oh my God, here we go again? Or what?

I mean, like, I'm fairly in touch with those guys. Yeah. So, yeah, it wasn't weird. I was like curious about it and, you know, flattered that they wanted me to be a part of it. I think it's cool. Like, I think I'm all about women in film and I'm generally just kind of interested

to see what people make. Yeah. It seems like, and obviously inevitable that they were going to try and figure out what the logical next step is and this seems like, oh, a crowd-sourced kind of thing let the fans figure it out for us. Yeah, it's a cool little project.

I don't even know really what it. I don't know too much about it. I can't wait to see. I don't even know like the scale of, yeah, exactly, like how did they get the money to make their little movies and like who are they? How old are they? I know nothing about it.

I'm curious. You may have noticed There's an Indiana Jones Fodora on my desk, and that's not for me. And it's filled with some random questions. You don't have to worry. I know they're like a hundred in there. You don't have to answer all of them. So why don't we finish up with a couple of these

and see what fate has in store for you? You ready, Kristen? It's a bad one. You can do it, everyone. What do you got? Zombies or vampires? Oh, God. Couldn't have chosen a better question.

Or a worse one, depending on your perspective. Right. Okay, well, I don't really have an answer for that. Should drugs and or prostitution be legalized? Oh, wow, provocative. They're not all that pro- I don't know what is in your hand that's like picking these particular questions, but you're getting an interesting punch.

You know, I think there's two sides to that coin, which I understand both. I don't know. I don't have an answer for that. I wonder. I mean, it would be interesting to know, how people would react if they weren't told no. Right.

You know what I mean? It makes something entirely desirable as soon as someone says no to you. But at the same time, I definitely think it. The country isn't going to hell now that a bunch of states have legalized marijuana. We're still standing, so there's that at least. We need to finish on something softer. Okay, yeah, maybe not that one. When I was a kid, my hero was.

Here we go. That's good. I didn't really have one. That's the thing. I'm trying to think, like, when I was in kindergarten, I wanted to be a rock star and as soon as I turned like you know nine or ten I wanted to be an actor but never like I never was like I'm gonna be a movie star right it's always like a way more any musicians to be honest nice I don't worship can be a little dangerous anyway that's weird

yeah I'm really not into that I was super into Jim Morrison for a bit which was really funny when I was like very very little probably too little to actually yeah I don't know what any of this means but it feels cool Yeah, he was great in that. It's always good to see you, my friend. Congratulations on all the films, the 16 different films coming out in the next few months. Camp X-ray, Clouds of Sils-Maria,

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