Happy Sad Confused - Lily-Rose Depp

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

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Last year, she had one of the fuzziest TV shows of the year. And now, with Nosferatu, she's having quite the moment. An amazing performance in Robert Eggers' latest, and it brings her on the podcast for the very first time. Lily Rose, welcome. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. I love your podcast, so I'm very excited. Don't get too excited.

It's not that great way. It's going to be fabulous. Oh, my, this is going to change your life. I can feel it already. How's it going? I'm catching you at the end of one of these junket days. What's been the watchwords that have come up the most? Is it like blood, corsets, vampires?

What's the drinking game today? I think because Bill's, you know, Bill's kind of, Bill's physical presence in the film has been kept quite, like, secret. It's been a lot of questions about, like, what it was like to see him for the first time on set and everything. because he is so incredible in this film and so just transformed. I mean, you don't, you, Bill Scarsigard is nowhere to be found, you know? So I think a lot of people are interested in what that was like to see him on set for the first time, which was quite spooky.

I feel like people might begin to think I'm on the Nospheratu payroll because Aaron did the podcast, Bill's going to do the podcast, you're doing the podcast. I love this movie. I love Eggers work so much. Talk to me about, it must be a moment when you find out, look, you've been doing this for a minute, But like to get the call, you're going to be essentially the lead. It's called Nosferatu, but let's be real. Lily Rose is the lead here, guys.

Well, it is, it's definitely told through Ellen's eyes, which I think is so cool because it's a perspective that we haven't seen before in, you know, Nosferatu's of the past. And so I was really excited about that. But, I mean, this was like a call that I was, you know, that I couldn't believe I was getting. I have always been a huge fan of Rob's work. I think he's such a special and singular filmmaker. I feel like there's really nobody like him. And you know, you feel like you're watching a Robert Degger's movie.

When you're watching a Robert Degger's movie, he is like a really like a world builder like no other. And so he was like a real bucket list director for me. And so when I got the opportunity to audition for this, I was like, oh my God. No, he's the cool kids like favorite. It's like, you know, you put like, you know, Luca, Ariya, or Eggers. That's like, come on. He's the club.

He's in that club. He really is, yeah. He's, and for good reason, I mean, I think from the very beginning, from the witch, you know, he just never misses. Like, he builds these worlds out in a way that I've, like, never seen before. And he's so obsessed with, like, history and, you know, kind of dark myths and everything that you, when you watch his movies, you almost feel like you're watching, like, an unearth, like something that's been, like, unearthed from the past.

unearthed from the past. And that's what I think is something that makes his film so special. Okay, I want to circle around it because we do have the luxury of a little time because the first time, and I don't know if you recall this, I wouldn't expect you to, but I spoke to you actually for yoga hosers. I remember. I do remember. Sun dance. We go way back. It's crazy to think about that cast, by the way, like Kevin Smith clearly cast the hell out of that movie. What do you remember about that experience? Because that's an odd one. That's an odd kind of beginning to a career. Yeah.

I love that movie. I mean, I think, you know, I feel like, you know, you make a movie and you never know how it's going to be received. And so I feel like in a lot of ways, like you, that almost can't like be a part of it. You just have to know why you make every choice that you make. And I feel like looking back at the movies, all of the movies that I've been lucky enough to be a part of, I know why I chose to be a part of every single one of them. And I feel like I took something away from.

from all of them. I came away with something, you know, with some growth and they kind of all nudged me along on my way. And I look back at that so fondly. I mean, that was such a special way to kind of begin this, you know, this crazy journey into this equally crazy world. And, you know, that was a really special one. I mean, I, yeah, I love Kevin and Harley. These people are like family to me. I've known them since I was a kid. So yeah, I'm very grateful that that was kind of my start. But you reference it. I mean, we can kind of like look back, I think, hopefully with a smile now because like you're getting amazing reviews of this. Let's just set the scene. I mean, this is a big moment for you. But people were rough on Kevin. Like that movie

had some like critics. And like that's a, that's, you're out there out in front. Yeah. With Harley. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, you can you can say like, and I get it. Like, of course you take away something from the experience regardless. But you're a young woman and your name is on that. And the reviews aren't great. Like does that, was that like something to kind of figure out, like, am I equipped for this? Can I? I mean, to be honest, like, I don't really even know, like, how much of an awareness I have that. I mean, I definitely was aware that, like, you know, the script was out there. The story is out there. It's not for everybody. Sure.

But I'm, I'm interested in those kinds of stories. Like, I'm honestly, I've always been interested in those, in those types of stories, as a viewer even, you know? Like, I'm, I'm definitely here for the stuff that not everybody's into. And, and, and, and, like I was saying earlier like to me like of course you make something and you hope that people enjoy it and that it resonates with people but at the end of the day that's not what's important to me what's important to me is that you know I mean of course if people like it that's amazing and I appreciate that but I just need to know in my heart why I'm doing something and I like the weird stuff you

know and so and so to me like that you know engaging with those kinds of projects comes with the idea that like not everybody's gonna like it but I'm just like you know what even better You know, because it's, there's so many kinds of people in this world. There's so many different tastes to adhere to. And you can't please everybody. So you got to at least just do the stuff that you like. Yeah, it's too much effort to, like, chase someone else.

Someone else thinks is going to be successful. Exactly. And it's just like, it's not interesting to me. I just want to do the stuff that I'm like, this is going to, you know, I want to do this. This is cool for me for one reason or another. And I love that movie. I stand by it.

I think Kevin is such a singular filmmaker as well. and has such a vision of his own. And so, yeah, I was really excited to be a part of that. Okay, so we're going to zigzag back and forth. We're back to Eggers on this one. Okay, so audition process on this, because, again, I've been following Eggers work for a while. I know he's been trying to make this for a while. Oh, yeah.

And different casts have come and gone, and thankfully the ships all lined up in the right way for the cast that he got here. Was this the first time kind of you were up for it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I had heard whispers of the fact that this movie was going to be made. you know before and and then when it came when the opportunity arose to audition for it it all happened kind of quite fast um the movie was going to be shot quite fast you know the audition

was happening like a few days after I heard about it it was like read the script you know you're auditioning now and I was I mean I was just overjoyed and I feel like oftentimes with like auditions it's like I'm very like chill about that kind of thing because I feel like I just have always, like, you know, led with this feeling that, like, my mom always said to me, like, you know, roles go to the people who are meant to play them. And I totally believe that in my heart. And so I feel like when it comes to auditions, I've always had kind of like a, you know, of course, you always do your best and hope that, you know, that you get the job or whatever. But, you know, I feel like I'm always just kind of like, I'm going to go in. I'm

going to do anything. If I get it, then great. And if I don't, then it just, like, wasn't meant for me. But when I heard about this one, I was definitely like, I really want. Yeah, but this time, I really want. I really want this one. Just because, like I said, I've always been a fan of Rob's work. I think he's so incredible. And I love this story. I've always loved the Nosferatu, like, Dracula story. And my role is, like, more central and fleshed out than it's ever been in Nosferatu's at the past. And so I was just like, this, you know, is an opportunity like no other. I am going to do the best damn audition I've ever done. in my life and i don't know if i did but i but i did to get the job so that was very that was

very cool it was uh it was a zoom audition too wait is the war true did you make your poor director cry i mean i like can't say that myself i'm gonna leave that to rob he has he said he he did say that it was over zoom yeah it was over zoom yeah i mean i'm i'm i'm gonna leave that you know rob's talk about his reaction because i just i just can't but um but yeah it was over Zoom and so I feel like and also it's like auditions you're just kind of like throwing stuff at the wall and just hoping that it sticks or or not and so I feel like my intention in the audition was just to show him like I am willing to go there emotionally I'm willing to go there physically and like I will do whatever

it takes to get this job and so and so yeah I prepped like the accent is why I do like a session with like a our dialect coach before the audition because I was like I hope the accent isn't like ridiculous and you know and this is This all happened in a span of a few days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Rob, I had had, like, a Zoom, like, just kind of, like, meeting with Rob, like, or a couple days before I did the audition. And so we had, like, had a chat, and it went really well, I think. And then I was like, okay, now I have to just, like, not ruin it in the audition.

And so the night of the, like, I did the audition, like, in the morning. And then I got a text from Rob that night when I was, like, about to go to bed, being, like, you, you, you, got it and I couldn't believe it I was like I felt like I was like you know just already dreaming or something I was like that's insane I was so excited pretty much the best text phone call career wise oh my god yeah I couldn't I couldn't believe it I was so excited so okay vampires no Spiratu the Dracula myth the whole thing like it's part of our DNA we all grow up it is we all and I certainly was obsessed with it and still am I'm a little bit older than you so like my

entry point Bram Stoker's Dracula the Coppola movie I was obsessed. I knew every line of that movie. Yeah. There are some parallels here which are fun to kind of like see. What for you, like I'm doing the math and I'm like, did Lily Rose see a Dracula movie or Twilight first? What was her vampire access points?

Well, actually, my, I was, I had like a very like vintage Dracula, like origin story. My brother and I were obsessed with Albert and Costello as kids. Meet Frankenstein, that one? Yeah, and meet Dracula. Oh, was there a one that? There was a Dracula one, yeah. And so we loved. that one and my brother specifically was obsessed

with Dracula and he used to like dress up like Dracula when he was like three or four it was like very cute totally normal and he would like say like lines from the movie like there's like a line where he's like I never drink wine like that yeah my brother used to say that as like a little

kid all the time and and so yeah I loved that one I love you know the Bella Legosi Dracula the Christopher Lee Dracula we always love Dracula did and loving it as well which is like yeah more of like comedic take on the story, but we loved that one. So, yeah, so also when I heard about this, when I got the opportunity to audition,

I was like, oh, my God, like, my brother's going to freak if I get this part. Wait, I also read somewhere, Halloween's. You've done a few dead versions of characters. I have, yeah. Good research. So it's in the DNA. You've been prepping this for this, whether knowing we are not over the years. Yeah, I've been into the, I've been into the, yeah, the gothic side of things.

Well, I was like a princess a lot when I was a kid when I was. I was like little. And then when I got a little older, a little more mature, I did like a dead princess. I did like a, I was a dead angel one year. I was, what else? I think I did like a dead like super girl. Was it, am I, am I like remembering this right?

I did like a dead lots of things. Wow, that's her thing. Perhaps I just liked the glam of it all, the makeup or something. Not a surprise, you ended up where you were, so. Yeah. During the Volvo Fall Experience event, discover exceptional offers and thoughtful design that leaves plenty of room for autumn adventures.

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I want to talk about the ensemble here because you're in great company. Oh, yeah. I mean, so Bill Scarsgaard, you know, Nick Holt, Wilm Defoe, Emma Corrin, insane. A lot of them are your contemporaries, Williams obviously a different generation, but like having a bunch of folks that are your contemporaries was that helpful for you? You're at a remote location, you're in an intense experience, Rob really creates atmosphere or like nobody else, talk to me a little bit about what it was like to work with that company back.

I mean, all of the, like, you say these names and I'm just like, every single one of them is so incredible and so talented and so singular. Like, I feel like every single person brings their own charm and twist and sensibility, you know, to their role in a way that is so uniquely theirs, and I feel like it really makes the movie what it is.

And, you know, like I was saying earlier, like roles really like you know parts are played by the people who were meant to play them and and I just feel like everybody is so perfectly cast everybody is so human and heartbreaking and funny even at times and just like incredible and I and I I felt so blessed to be surrounded by these by these incredible actors because I think you know especially like you said when you are going through like an intense shooting experience to be able to lean on these people who not only are so talented but are so kind and so present and so there with you in the scenes it's just like it's you know it's it's it's a it's a huge gift I don't know if you still keep a diary

what did the diary look like during this production it's probably really dark I don't know I feel like there was like you know I mean it was a it was a beautiful experience it was like an unforgettable experience I will cherish it forever but it was intense I mean you know and there's a real darkness and like a heaviness to the story and to the role and I feel like I carried that with me while we were shooting for sure like I you know not in a way that was like detrimental to my sanity but in a way that like that was present and palpable and when we finished shooting I was definitely like like I'm something has been released from my my heart or something so I haven't even gone back to look at those dire ranches but they're

probably real they're probably real dark and I also think you know, everything that you're, everything is like available circumstance, like an actory term, but like, you know, anything that you're feeling can lend itself to what your character is feeling. So I feel like I tried to just like marry the two as much as I could. And you also, as evidenced by like your attitude when the audition first came around, like you knew this was like a moment. Yeah. You know, actors don't get shots like this. Not like, you know, you've been building to a moment like this. Thanks. But it's, I mean, yeah, I just feel like there's, there was no way to go about this other than just like, really diving in the defense. And I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. Like, that's what I'm,

I like that. Like, I like the challenge and I like to be like submerged in a world. And this is like, you can't ask for more, more immersive a world to kind of dive into. Well, okay, there's nothing half-ass about what you did on the screen. Because this, this, this, you go to some real extremes in the film. I feel like you and Linda Blair can have like a real conversation now. Thank you. That's high phrase. I love that. Thanks. But talk to me a little bit about, like, How does that feel on set? You're doing these kind of, like, really extreme, like eyes going to the back of your head,

like gyrations, et cetera. Can you silence the part of your brain that's like, I look like a crazy person? I guess you have to. That's the job of an actor. You kind of have to. You really have to, like, let it all go. And one of the main inspirations for all those physical movements

is a Japanese art form called Bouto, which a lot of the idea behind it is kind of like, almost letting your consciousness kind of float away from your body and becoming like an empty vessel for something else to take over you. And that is like an idea that I feel like I tried to channel a lot for several reasons. One of them being so that I could like be possessed by the demon kind of thing and like, you know, carry out the scenes, but also because you have to silence that voice in your head. No matter what you're doing, like even if you're just doing a normal like talking scene,

And acting is like play. It's like playing pretend. You know, you're like having to be super convincing in pretend. And so you have to silence that. It's like you almost have to go back to like a childlike imagination of like when you're kids and you're playing and you're playing with your dolls or whatever you play with as a kid and everything feels so real. And then when you grow up, you gain this like consciousness that's like constantly

telling yourself that like everything is like silly and not real and ridiculous and whatever. And so you have to, like, silence that no matter what the scene is, but especially when you're doing, you know, kind of some crazy shit. You have to, like, you know, just let it all go. And also, like, feel the trust in your collaborators. Like, I feel like I really had that with Rob, not because I had worked in them before because I hadn't. It was my first time working with him, but I love his work so much. And so I feel like I had that trust with him because I knew that no matter where he was leading me, it was going to be a great place to be. And so I almost had to just like, yeah, completely kind of float away and not be there and not think that I could look silly even if I did at times because it's like, you know, it's all part of the process.

And he's going to take care of you in the edit. Yeah. And also he's so precise, like he's so specific that like he's not going to let you leave until that scene is perfect. And so there's comfort in that. And you're, again, we talked about the company of actors. Like when you're playing a scene with Bill, oh my God. I mean, this guy's career I'm obsessed with. Yeah, he's incredible.

He's incredible. and I'm just a love, like, how he's just so willing, like, obviously he can be a leading man, but he's, like, obsessed with being, like, the weirdest, craziest characters. Like, going for the most fucked up shit, I love it. Yeah, no, he's a, his choices are fascinating. Fascinating.

He's an incredible actor. So, and I know you've talked about this a lot, but, like, he's in this full crazy makeup. He's doing the voice, the whole thing. It's insane. And, again, like, this is play, but that, I mean, you're on these sets, with this guy that's fully committed.

So you can't be the odd woman out. Absolutely not. No, and I think, you know, you can only be better for how wonderful your scene partner is, and that, you know, definitely rang true in my scenes with Bill, in my scenes with everyone, because everyone is so incredible, like you were saying. But the level of commitment that Bill had to dive into to create this character was, like, astounding. And it was clear from the very first rehearsal.

I mean, the very first rehearsal that I did with him, he was just like not having, you know, he didn't have any of the prosthetics or any of the, anything. It was just, he was just normal. He was just wearing, like, kind of sweats and, like, a normal outfit, and he just looked like, you know, the regular human being that he is. And yet he had this voice that was insane. And I couldn't, it's almost like I couldn't compute, like, the kind of regular person that I was looking at with this, like, insanely transportative voice.

And it was so, it was so incredible. He's such an incredible actor, and he makes it so easy to be terrified of him. And, you know, for, it's like, I'll pretend, but for those few moments between, like, action and cut, it's all real, and he is there giving it a hundred and ten percent, and so you have no choice but to do the same, and so I feel like, you know, it's, yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Is his nospheratu an attractive being? This is the most important question of the entire conversation. Do we consider that vessel, that what Rob and him and the makeup team have created? Yeah. I mean, I think it's interesting because Rob was talking about this in an interview the other day.

He was saying how the first kind of vampire tales that were written were written by people who really believed that vampires existed. And so they were anything but kind of like romanticized. sexualized beings in the way that we've come to know vampires through just like pop culture and stuff. And so I think that Rob really wanted to go back to that idea of a vampire that is just like blood-curdling in every way. And yet it was clear in the script

and clear then in my conversations with Rob that he really wanted my scenes with Bill to be infused with like a real sensuality and a real desire between these two characters, which is, you know, freaky and crazy and yet it's it's I think he symbolizes like a lot of the darkness that she sits with right he's like the physical manifestation of that darkness and this pull that she can't explain and that she can't wrap her head

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Yeah. Growing up. Yes. Were you on sets? Were you in this environment? Yeah. Does it make it less weird that the fact that obviously it's part of the family? Yeah.

I mean, I think it just means that I have an awareness of the environment. Right. You know, I definitely grew up on sets, which was always fascinating to me. Specifically, like, I remember being a kid, like, being on sets, how quiet you have to be when the cameras are rolling and when they say action, like, you know, you obviously have to be very quiet so that the scene can take place. And I remember being fascinated with the idea of, like, being the person that got to speak when everybody else had to be really quiet. For some reason that was... I want to be that person. They seem really important. Yeah, I was like, that's so...

cool you get to like speak amongst this like deafening silence right I always thought that was really cool and I'm obsessed with like the idea of like world building you know building these worlds that are transported so far away from our own and yet feel so rooted in truth I always thought that was so cool and so you know this has always been my my dream like in a real in a real way and like you know for example like this movie, like, I had never shot in, like, practical sets, like, outdoor sets, like, in the way that, you know, like, the town of Vistburg, like, they built it all on the, on the back lot, and it was so incredible.

I remember walking onto it for the first time, and I was like, like, this is, it was reminiscent of, in a way, the sets that I had been on as a kid, and I had never shot on one before, and I remember thinking, like, this is so cool. I can't believe that I get to, like, you know, work in this environment that is so, like, you know alive and just so rich with with life it was yeah incredible so for friends and family that knew you growing up are they surprised at all like were you an extrobert as a kid yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah i mean weirdly so like yes and no i feel like i'm a gemini so i feel like there's like a lot of sides to me um i i i was really shy as a kid like i remember like i also like i only

started school in kindergarten like i didn't go to preschool because i was really shy like i started kindergarten and then I was like kind of just I was just super super shy so I didn't continue and I think my mom was like not wanting to like put me through that so I started in kindergarten and I remember touring my kindergarten class like hiding behind my mom's like leg I was like very very shy as a kid and then I think I kind of came out of my shell a little bit through like making friends and stuff like that and then after that I was always like quite performative I love to like put on a show and you know, sing and dance and kind of, yeah, that's always been a part of my personality, I guess,

but also the other side of that as well, I guess. Did you, like, looking back, is there a specific time where you feel like you fully committed, like I'm really gonna make a go of this? Like, I mean, I've thought about it, I've maybe mentioned it to friends or family, but like I'm gonna commit, I'm gonna fully go all in. I mean, I feel like it kind of happened by accident

in a way, I always, like, wanted it, and my parents just wanted me to wait until I was, like, grown up to do it. wanted me to like have a childhood and stuff, which I feel like I had. It's just that I started working earlier than I thought that I would, I guess, which really started with... Because of the Tusk cameo in that. With Tusk, yeah, I did like a cameo in Tusk with Harley, who's, you know, my childhood,

my best friend since I was five. And it was in doing that, which was just like a fun kind of silly thing that I was like, I really feel like this is where I want to be. And then Kevin, you know, loved those characters and Zahiro Yoga Hozers. And I, I mean, I was so excited. I was like, wow, I feel like my, like, dream is coming true right now. And I just knew after we shot that, that I was like, I don't want to be anywhere else. Like, this is what I want to do.

And I feel like from that moment on, I was kind of like I want to dive in. But then it's like I was a kid. So I feel like now that I'm an adult, I think about the approach that I had to acting when I was like 15, 16 years old. And I'm like, I didn't know what I was doing. But, you know, you always learn. It's part of the journey. Did you feel like on those early auditions expectations based on your parentage like did you feel that like shadow in the room? Yeah, of course. I mean, I think, you know, this industry like definitely doesn't let you forget it, you know, in this world. But that's okay. I mean, I, you know, it's just a, it's just the name of the game. It's just a part of it. And, you know, I'm, I'm a hard worker. I always have been and it's that hard work. It's, you know, it's being in the trenches kind of that I'm interested in. And so I don't mind, like, working harder if that's, if, you know,

if that's what people, I guess, want for me or something to, like, prove myself. I'm, you know, it's that hard work that I'm interested in. And so that's never been a concern for me, I guess. It's funny, I was going to say it's funny because I've talked to a lot of folks that have, like, you know, actors in the business in their family and, like, some of the most well-adjusted folks, like John David Washington, Jack Quaid, Like, these folks that, like, you would think, how can they possibly be as grounded? But I feel like it's, like, almost an overcompensation.

Like, you know what people are thinking. And it's like, I'm going to, yeah, I'll work even harder. Yeah. I mean, I just, like, I love what I do, like, so much. I feel like this is the only thing that I know how to do in the world. And so I feel like I just, like, I have to do this. And if that means, like, working 10 times harder, you know, for people to, like, get past their, get past that, then that's okay, because that's the work that I'm interested in.

And at the end of the day, like, I'm not, you know, I'm not ashamed. Like, my parents are such talented performers, and I'm, and I'm blessed to be their daughter and to have watched them go about their careers. And it's, it's given me so much inspiration. And so, you know, yeah, I'm happy to, I'm happy to keep going like that. I want to briefly talk about a couple other projects. Is the King a Turning Point? Because on that one, you get to work with a very talented filmmaker, some great actors.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that was one that was, I was really excited to get that part. I think also like I love period pieces. I love, you know, also getting to play like a French, you know, princess. I was very excited about that. I honestly feel like every role that I've been lucky enough to play has felt like a turning point in a way. Not that they all can be, but I feel like every role has taught me so much and, you know, things take a long time. Like you shoot something, it comes out so much later, all these things. So I feel like every role that I've gotten to play has caught me at a different point in my life where I feel like I've been going through

a certain change in that moment. And so in a way, they all feel like turning points. I referenced in the intro, The Idol, which I know is something you had so much passion for. And there was so much mystique about the production, and how many episodes and what's gonna happen, the whole thing. And then you have your experience and then the press has their own interpretation of it.

Did you, like, did that feel, surreal kind of like to go through it, this passion project for everybody involved, and then to have this other narrative kind of going on at the same time? I mean, yes and no. Like, I think the thing that sucked about that was to have people kind of like

talking shit about Sam, who is a great friend of mine and somebody that I consider, like, family. Like, I'm super close with him and Ashley, his wife, who's a producer on the show. Right. And they are such wonderful people, like so incredible, so kind.

and like really like kind of took me under their wing in a way and so I think the thing that the only thing that I really like was upsetting about that whole time period was people talking negatively about him because the things that they said about him particularly as a filmmaker were just couldn't be further from the truth and from at least my experience working with him. So that sucks, you just never wanna hear people

like talking shit about your friend. And you love that character I know. I love that character and I love that show and I, you know like I was, saying earlier like people are always gonna you know make their own opinions of things and so you just have to be steadfast in your conviction of like I know why I'm doing this and I know why I did that and it was that really felt like a turning point like that was a time period of my life where I feel like I learned

so much I was pushed so far out of my comfort zone in the most beautiful way and it gave me so much growth that I will always look back on that as like one of the most special times of my life. And in a way, it's like, it was surreal and not because we always knew it was going to be controversial. And so you weren't making, yeah. No, you got to be expecting that in a way. And that's okay.

Like, I'm interested in that kind of work. I'm down for that. And I think we were also, like, pushing, like, society's buttons, I think intentionally a little bit in a way. And, of course, it was received in the way that it was. But it's okay. I mean, every time, like, people do come up to me sometimes and say, like, I loved the idol, and I'm always like, I love that.

It makes me so happy. And, yeah, I think it's beautiful, and I wouldn't have changed anything about it. Current reality film obsessions this year, as we're Korean towards the end of 2024. You're still a reality fan. What's top of the list? Oh, my God, I am such a reality fan. Do you, have we talked about that before? No, but, you know, I've read up.

You are so good. Oh, my God, I've been watching so much Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. That's the go-to. So incredible. That's been my go-to. It's literally an incredible show. So good. What else? Oh, my God, I was big on Love Island this summer. Okay.

I was big on that. That was, that was a journey. I didn't, when I started the show, I didn't realize that there's an episode every day. So I didn't, I didn't, I had never watched Love Island for. But you dove in. I didn't know. Like the acting, when she dives in, guys, she dives in. I mean, I just, I didn't know how much of a commitment I was making for that show. But then once I was in, it's like, you're in.

And well worth it. And well worth it. And then what else have I been watching? I love, I mean, I also just like, I have like a huge. list of movies that I'll just like, whenever I don't know what to watch, I'll, like, flip through that and, like, watch something. The last thing that I watched that I loved was Shadow of Vampire. Oh, great.

Willem. Starring Willemps, I had never heard of it. I had learned about it, like, during a Q&A. And I didn't know that he had played Max Schreck. During the Q&A, you're like, oh, that sounds interesting. No, literally, we were talking about it. I was like, wait, I need to watch this movie, and I watched it, and I loved it. It's also, it reminded me in a way of Dracula's Dead and Loving It,

you know, kind of a comedic take on the Nosephratu myth. Willem is one of my favorite actors in the world, so I love that one. I hope a lot of people watch Nosferatu and then go watch Dracula's Ed and Loving. I hope so too. It's a cool little, cool little journey to go. Okay, I'm going to wrap with a happy second few profoundly random questions for you. You ready? Go for it, yes.

Dogs or cats? Cats. Sorry. I have a cat. Why do you say sorry? Because I feel like everybody likes dogs better, but I'm sorry. I'm here to say that cats are very special little creatures, and you know what? And they are excited when you come home.

So, yeah. So calm down dog freaks out there. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I love dogs too. Like, they're so cute. But I'm just here to say my little guy pumpkin is going to be ecstatic when I go home tonight. Do you collect anything? Do I collect anything?

Um, I'm trying to think. Do I collect anything? Not really, but I love, like, kitchen. Like, I like, like, antique plates and serving dishes and, like, ashtrays. Like, I like antique. glassware. That's the first on the podcast. Antique classware for the win. Okay. I haven't really thought about the fact that that's something I collect, but it is honestly something I collect. Antique glassware. A wallpaper on your phone? Wallpaper on my phone is a picture of my boyfriend when

she was a little baby. Very sweet. Yeah. Last actor you were mistaken for? Last actor I was mistaken for. Um, ever happened? I don't think that's ever happened. I feel like when I was younger, People used to say I looked like Anna Sophia Roth, which I kind of see. And I love her. She's a great actress, yeah. Worst noted director has ever given you. Worst noted director is, I think one that's tough for me is like, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then you cry because I feel like it's, yeah, because I feel like it's like, and you

can do that, but I just feel like it's, you know, emotion is a finicky thing. You want it to come up organically. Obviously we're in the business of manipulating emotion. That's like the whole job. Right. But I feel like whenever I've been asked to make a tear come out kind of in a very technical way, it's fine, I understand the note, but in the back of my head, I'm kind of like, okay, well, that's really hard, but it's okay.

I was going to ask you to end this interview with this here, but I guess. Maybe next time. Last thing. Yeah, go ahead. Happy Saginfews, an actor that always makes you happy. An actor that always makes me happy. Oh, my God. You see them on screen.

You're in a good move. Honestly, friends, like friends, any of the actors and friends, friends is like my go-to, like Friends is my lullaby. Okay. So yeah, probably David Schwimmer, honestly. No, Steve Carell. Steve Carell. Okay. Like the office.

Like Steve Carell, yeah. Movie that makes you sad. Movie that makes me sad. Oh my God, so many. What was this movie? What did I watch recently that just like broke my heart? God, I can not think of it. That's okay.

It's hard to accept. My brain is, yeah, fried, but I cannot remember. I'm trying to think, it's annoying me, because there is a movie that I watched recently that, like, shattered me. I can't remember, but I cry really easily in movies. So honestly, anything that has, like, any sort of a tear-jurkey vibe, like, I'm crying, for sure.

And food that makes you confused. Food that makes me confused. I hate cheese, I really hate it. In a way that, like, I know, I know, I really, really do. We had a good thing going, and now it's over. Oh, I know. Is it a lactose, like, intolerance? No, it's not.

And also, like, I'm French. Like, I should like it. I should like, I hate it. But, like, to the point where I'm, like, if my friends bring it to my house, I'm, like, it has to be gone once the night is over, like, you have to take it home. I don't want it in my fridge. Like, I don't, I don't, it's like a phobia. I really hate it.

I really, really, really. And I don't get why people like it. I really don't get it. We'll talk later about the Tuesday. Yeah, we will. Congratulations on the movie. Thank you. Thank you.

I'm glad it belongs to the podcast finally. Me too. Thanks for having me. Truly. People need to see this one. It's an exceptional piece of work. Thanks so much. Good to see you. Good to see you. And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't pressured to do this by Josh. tales that continue to captivate audiences, decades, or even hundreds of years after they

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