Happy Sad Confused - Margaret Qualley

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

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And it made me laugh. You know, I knew I could be going for it. I was like, prepare your ears, humans. Happy, Sad, Confused begins now. I'm Josh Horowitz, and today on Happy, Sad, Confused, Margaret Quali is here. This lady is doing it right. You may know her from The Nice Guys and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but in 2024, she really kicked it up a notch with an all-timer trio of bold bananas movies that I love,

drive-away dolls, kinds of kindness, and of course, the substance. If you've seen it, you know she's getting all the accolades. It's well-deserved. She's fresh off the Golden Globes stage. It's the one and only on happy second views for the first time. How is that possible? It's Margaret Quali. That was sweet.

I'm out of breath. Take over, Margaret. How's it going? Thanks for having me. It's so good to see you. Thank you for taking the time. Congratulations on everything. We're going to revel in all the madness of your career.

You're making the best choices. I'm so excited for everything you're doing. So I'm glad it's happening now. That's really nice of you to say. I'm glad you think so. Someone validating me. I'm glad someone thinks so. No, a lot of people do. This is like a substance arrangement for the next 40 minutes. We are a symbiotic relationship. We're going to be here for each other. We are one?

Well, we're not exactly one, but together we are one podcast. And if one of us dies, this podcast dies, I guess is what I'm saying. Got it. Okay. So no pressure. Try not to die. Got it. Yeah. That's the number one goal. I have returned to my beloved New York City. I know New York is home for you, too. You're still in L.A.

I was at the Globes like you were the other day. Do you miss New York? It's very cold here, if it's any consolation. I always miss New York. I love New York. It's my favorite place in the whole world. New York and New Jersey, actually. If I could just bounce back and, well, no, I won't say that because I do love my job so much.

And I do love being on location as a part of the job. job too. We could get into that. But I think it's nice to kind of like, I like, doing a movie for me is the most selfish experience in the world because what you essentially get to do is put the rest of your life on pause to a degree. I'm not a guy, so I can't really put everything on pause, but different standards. Guys can just shut it off. Fuck family, fuck friends. I'm doing a movie. It does seem like quite like a get out of jail free card for certain folks. I will say, yeah. There's like sometimes you'll be doing a movie or you'll have the experience of getting really

tired and being like, oh gosh, I just need to rest. And then you go back to life and you're like, oh, no, that was resting. This is harder. The movie part, that's like the ultimate fantasy rest. It's, that's, yeah. Yeah, they're feeding me. They're doing my laundry. They're taking care of me.

Yes. Yeah, they wake up in the morning and they say, you go get up here. and then we're going to put you in a car or take you here and then we're going to do your hair we're doing your makeup, eat this, you're going to put this outfit on, you're going to say this, then we're going to walk you into the bathroom, we're going to go walking back to set, we're going to walk you over here.

It's, it's, it's, it's being babysat. The dream. What's the, what's, okay, so when you're back home and you're not working, what's, give me a snapshot of day in the life of Margaret. Day in the life? Yeah. Um, okay. Well, first of all,

I have a new addition to my life. And, right? What about that reveal? This is Smokey. Smoky is the second most adorable dog next to my dog who's in the other room. I might need to get Grab Lucy because, oh, my gosh. It could be a puppy play date. I'm going to grab Lucy.

I'm grabbing Lucy. I'm going to be right back. Talk to the folks on the podcast. Tell them about Smokey. Really? Yeah. Okay. Hi, hi, guys.

This is Smokey. Am I really supposed to be doing this? I don't know that I am. Josh is gone. I could say anything. Penest. I'm just kidding. Sorry.

I'll stop. I'm going to seem insane here. No, you're not insane. You're not insane. I played the penis game. I heard penis. That's my go-to. I have a bigger one that's than smoky, but.

Oh, hi. Lucy. Hi, Lucy. So how long have you got smoking? Have you had Lucy? Thanks. We've had Lucy for four years. You've had Lucy for four years.

Yeah. And Lucy seems like a lap dog. Lucy's huge. She often is a lap dog. Right now she's like an anti-lap dog. Well, she's maybe got performance anxiety. What happens to the best of us. Were you always a dog person?

Is this like a new development in your life? I've never, I haven't had a dog of an adult. And I mean, I grew up with a lot of animals, Montana, North Carolina. Carolina. And then I was too kind of like transience to be responsible for a little creature. But now I feel like I was like got life under control enough that I can have a dog. I'm 30. I'm 30. I can have a dog. Yeah. I'm a goddamn grown up. Yeah. I feel like I just got to peek and see what you say to yourself in the mirror every morning. I'm 30. I can have a dog. yeah um okay let's okay i want to we'll backtrack to uh absurd random things like dogs uh later

but let's talk substance because this has been quite a wild ride for you guys um what does it say i mean i don't know i when i first saw this i was like this is for me i love this this is not going to be for everyone and then lo and behold this is a box office hit this is a critical hit this is a awards contender margaret what i thought that the world was a horrible place. The world was a wonderful place if we're accepting the substance like this. I know what you mean. I'm totally blown away and totally shocked and like, I'm so grateful to me and I worked so hard on this for like, it was a five-month shoot. It was super intense. It was at once, you know, rewarding and painful and like all the things that,

I don't know. It was just like, I And I'm so happy for her. I love her so much. I've learned so much from her. I love being around her. I've really truly gained a friend from this experience. And, yeah, all to say, yeah, I'm so, so grateful for the life that the substance has had or is having out there. So when you encounter this script, what's your first read on this?

Because I would imagine, like, you can have one or two reactions. This is the kind of script where you're like, you know, throw it in the trash, burn the computer. I never want to look at this thing. Or you can respond to it, like the weird freaks like you and I. I assume you responded to it. Like, what did you click into? Like, what excited did you when you first read it?

Um, I think it's just, it's like touching on a part of the human experience that is like, just, I think somewhat like inevitable. in this day and age, you know, but doing it in a way that, like, is celebratory, in a sense, you know, I guess I feel like I'm very much interested in making movies that people want to watch, and I don't always, like, movies that I don't always hit the mark there. but I guess what I mean is like I wanted to watch this movie

when I read it I wanted I wanted to see that movie and I wanted to tell that story I wanted to like yeah I just wanted to be a part of it I could like kind of it was a really descriptive script and it felt like to me it kind of felt like reading

what I would imagine it was to read like one of those classic fairy tales like in this very backwards way but the way that the way that the story was being told was very like it's it's almost like it could have been animated you know and and and the performances I think kind of feel like that too it's almost like animated creatures come to life and and I just hadn't seen anything that you know it's just like Yeah, it was a cool way of telling the story, like a nightmarish, fucked up fairy tale. Did anything about it scare you? I mean, the way, like, you're shot in this film, the way, I mean, really, like, body

image obviously is so... Yeah, terrified me. Absolutely. I, like, absolutely terrified me. I think, like, I've also, I've lived my life, my work life specifically, um, doing the exact opposite of everything that this movie does to me. And I've, I've sought out performances that go in the other direction. And I think that comes partially from a female idea that in order to garner respect,

you have to make yourself, you know. Yeah, exactly. You know, like Charlie's Theron and Monster or something, right? Like that's how you get respect as a lady. and um and and not that's that that's an amazing performance of course she should have a respect but um but the point being it was just like super terrifying to lean into all the things that i was told will make people hate me you know what i mean basically like and it is and people you do hate her you know like you hate her until you don't turns into a monster like that's when you kind of get

that's when that's when sue monstrelizes Sue loves herself for the first time she experiences love for the first time until then she's kind of like this like you know like alien sex bot thing and so pointless I mean it was terrifying

it was like and then on top of that like the amount of pressure to like be the realization of Corley's idea of perfection and um like an intense in an intense gaze for a really elongated period of time like five months is a long time to be living in that mindset um just another day wake up and be an idealized yeah version of perfection of femininity yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. I was like, what did I do in myself?

Is there a bonus in psychiatric bills I get after the shoot to compensate for what I'm going through? By the end of this shoot, I had like, okay, wait, did you see all kinds of kindness? Yes, of course. Okay, so, thank you. You know that the character has like all the acne? Like, that was just my acne from the prosthetics. and I was like oh this is actually kind of perfect like I'm playing all these different characters

for one of them will really use all my crazy prosthetic acne yeah like it took me probably like a year to recover like physically from all of it like at the end when they're shooting up my skirt at the end or in the beginning credits when it's like the palm trees all around

and they have like all these long lens from the bottom That's just because my face was so fucked up by that time that they couldn't, like, shoot my face anymore. Here's your perfect lady, guys, ready for my close-up. Yeah, I was, like, covered with, like. This is what you wanted, right? This is what you did to me, Hollywood. I know.

I also, I love all your Instagram. You posted a fair amount of amazing prosthetic photos. Like, it seems like you really reveled. Did all your friends and family enjoy the series? of photos you must have sent during production? That in like the FaceTimes. You're waiting around on the set and like FaceTime surprise

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is now streaming only on Disney Plus. We alluded to this amazing life the movie has had. You can never predict also the memeification, the enter into the zeitgeist. I mean, there have been, I can't imagine. I'm sure you've seen like a thousand of these. I've seen thousands of these, you know, dragging you across, cross the floor, cut to like super crypto dragging Superman.

By the way, that was scary, dragging me across the floor because that's really happening that fast. Like all these things are practical. So like we've got someone, my, I have a piece of cardboard on tied, taped to my back so that I won't get rug burn. And then I've got my feet tied with a little ropes and someone just yanking a rope from the other side like on a machine I'm sliding down the corridor like banging back and forth

and then down the stairs anyway you're really selling the acting thing well for anybody aspiring to be an actor this is a cautionary tale don't do it I do love my job

I love it it's the best job in the world are there any of the memes or stuff that you've really enjoyed yourself all of them yeah I like the one a lot someone's in me where it's like if I send you this photo, it means I'm not coming of Demi. There is either, yeah, there's a good one of Demi and a good one of Monstro.

Right. But they've all been amazing. It's like, it's so cool. I absolutely am touched by the way that cultures embrace the film and that it means something to people is awesome. Whether you know it or not, your name has come up a lot on the podcast. I've been dropping your name a lot the last year or so because, like, I, I really, I really, I really mean this.

The choices you're making are awesome. Thanks. And we can point to, like I alluded to 2024, substance is just the tip of the iceberg. If people haven't seen kinds of kindness or drive away dolls that not enough people did see, I feel like those two films walked so the substance could run. Thanks. But they allude to a very cool sensibility.

Like, I don't know what the directive you're giving team quality is. Is it like, give me the weirdest. Give me the thing you think is too weird for me. I want to read it. So the opposite. Like, I don't know what happens to me. Like, I'll be like, like, I'm like, okay, I just want to do a wrongcom. I just want to do like a romance.

I just want to do something sweet. And then like, the next movie I'm doing is Victorian Psycho. I'm reteaming with Zach Wiggin. I'm like a serial killer. Like, I don't know why. I was like, I like, I keep saying it. And then I'm like, ooh, this. So it's my own fault.

But that's certainly not my directive. Like, I'm trying to, maybe it's also like, I don't know, like, I do, the world becomes a part of your life to a degree. Like, I want to, I want to enjoy my life. Right, right, right. But I think Victorindycle will be really fun. Anyway, I want to have fun. I don't know. But a Nancy Myers kitchen set rom-com would be lovely.

That would be heaven. Sign me up. Do you go up for things? Like, have you auditioned for? I don't get them. I think there's something about me that says, uh... You're too damn interesting for your own good. I'm crazy.

That was my con-euphemism, you see. Yeah, I don't know. People, yeah. Well, okay, so give me a sense of your sensibilities growing up. Just as a fan of film and TV, what, what were you into? Growing up? Yeah. Okay.

I mean, growing up, I was kind of too busy to, like, I was such a serious dancer that I didn't watch an incredible amount of film. I would love the TV show Friday Night Lights and me and my girlfriends would watch it every Friday together religiously. And I think that life is so magical for so many reasons, but like I do think that you, those, like, you plant seeds and they bloom and, um, My first job was the leftovers, which was, like, related to Fred and New Lights with Pete Burr. Yeah, I auditioned for him. And it was the only TV show I'd ever watched, really. And so it was amazing. Like, I knew his sensibility really well.

Wait, and then you, of course, worked with Jesse since then. I worked with Jesse since then. Yeah, but everything, like one thing is then, okay, so when I started, I went to my first acting class when I was moved to New York at 16. my high school boyfriend took me to an acting class and in a church on the Upper East Side like an improv class and I fell in love with acting and then I started doing my homework

and I watched, I looked up like all my favorite or no, he gave me all of his favorite movies and I watched all of his favorite movies and then out of those I watched I looked up those directors all their movies and then like took that on a little you know that on the journey

yes and I'm imagining a tree. But anyway. Do you remember what were the directors or actors you started to kind of get obsessed with back then? Like when you started to go through these little branches, these year tree metaphor. I mean, the things that, the movies that I like really loved in adolescence were like eternal sunshine of the spotless mind and still do, but I just mean like the ones that I like uncovered around that age, 16, 17, 18, that I do think are really formative years in terms of your taste. I love like Eternal Sunshine

I loved Kramer versus Kramer I love basketball diaries I loved I mean so many but those were like those are the first ones that I just remember

like Harold Maud and Punch Drunk Love Punch Drug Love was huge I could keep going No that's a good list What about on kind of like the more mainstream genre side Like were you a Harry Potter kid

Any of that? I loved Harry Potter I read all those books when I left, I read them late. I like left home at 14 and went to a ballet boarding school. And I wanted like something cozy and wholesome to try to put me to sleep. So I read Harry Potter then. And then I actually watched them with, it's funny that you brought that up because I'm doing an English accent next. So I'm only watching British TV and movies for a while.

So that's the household rule. And Jack had never seen Harry Potter. So we watched all those over. I know. It was really fun. over Christmas break. Were you basically explaining everything as it went? Kind of like, so that.

Yeah, I was like, well, this one, this next one's really good. So you have to wait for this next scene. Like, come on. Yeah. Alan Rickman isn't exactly as he seems. You may end up really empathizing with this guy. Yes, yeah. He's like, go, oh.

What's your favorite of the Harry Potter films? Four. So it not Ascaband, you're what would be gobbled a fire? Yes. Godlet of Fire. I think that's a goblet of fire. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any particular reason? Um, I just think like it really, I feel like one to three really set up the world. And you know all the characters by the time before. It's like this big kind of like epic within the world.

I feel like they really take it to the next level. And I like that. Fair enough. So, okay. We know you were serious about dance. What's the best dance film of all time? Are you a step-up person? Were you on Magic Mike?

I love Step-up. I adore Step-up. Magic is good, too, but Step-up's more in my speed. I like more. I get bored with there's not, like, a woman. Like, I need more women. I need more of romance. There's our poll quote of the day.

Okay, you can challenge any actress or actress. actor to a dance off on screen, Margaret. Who do I choose? Who do I choose? Wait, but I didn't even answer your first question. Yeah, go for it. Go for it. Okay, wait. Well, first, okay, maybe this is both because this is my favorite dance movies. Yeah.

Okay, I've got a couple. Oh, I've got a lot. But Mouvet Singh is actually one of my favorites that there's like this incredible dance sequence that Denis Levant, am I saying that right, does in it. And he's like one of the best dancers in the world. He's this French actor, dancer, like clown, who he's the same guy that dances at the end of Bote d'I, Claire Denise film. Got it. And I'm obsessed with him. I'm obsessed with his physical work.

He's a huge inspiration for me. But then, like, on the other side of things, if we're going more, like, American vibes, sitter stage was very formative to me. and get this. So I used to watch that movie all the time. I used to watch all the dance movies in the back of a minivan on the way to dance competitions in the weekends. I would like drive in my dance teacher's minivan

and me and her daughter would watch dance movies on the way to these competitions in North and South Carolina. And so, you know, it's flash dance, it's center stage, it's step up, it's, you know, Greece, all those kinds of movies. And, but center stage was, certainly on the Rolodex and when I watched a million times. And then I auditioned for North Carolina School of the Arts to go off to do ballet at the sporting school.

And the year that I auditioned was when Ethan Stiefel became dean of the school and then taught my audition class. And I was like, he's the guy that rides the motorcycle, but he's like the bad boy. And that was a big moment for me. But yeah. So, but okay, you then ask me who I would want to do a dance off with. Yes, yep. I mean, maybe Denny Levant. He's, I don't know.

I think he's alive and old, but, you know. Oh, you're just choosing someone old that you can beat. That's cruel. I think he'd still beat me. He's an amazing dancer. He's like, he's amazing. Do you remember early on, obviously, like, your second generation actor, we know that. Like, you've been to premieres when you were a kid.

I actually looked up on Getty, the oldest photos I can find of you. And I found you at. I have, like, a bot, like a really short haircut. I'm like, well, the more important thing is what premiere I saw you at. You were at the Breaking Dawn premiere. Were you a Twilight kid? I wasn't dead of Breaking Dawn premiere. You were?

There's photographic evidence. Really? Yeah. It was that special moment you blocked it out. I swear. No, I don't think that's true. Breaking Dawn. It was a premiere in New York, 2011.

I don't have the photo literally in front of me. Okay. Okay. Agreed or disagree. It's okay. Okay. Okay, fair enough. I believe you, I guess, but it seems crazy.

Like, I have no tie, like, my, why was my mom? Was there was my mom? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why was she there? Maybe, is she a Twyhard? I didn't know about that. I don't. I mean, I've seen the Twilight movies.

I love the Twilight movies. I love Christmas Stewart. I love Robert Pads and love Twilight. Love it all. But I'm just shocked that I was there. I know I was at the premiere of Monte Carlo. Oh, that's, yeah, was that, was that, was that Emma, who was in that?

My mom and Selena Gomez. Selena Gomez, that's who I was thinking. Oh, your mom, of course. Yeah, yeah. So, okay, talk to me about this. I've had a run of like these great second generation actors like John David Washington. That's a nice way of putting it. What?

Second generation? Yeah. What's the bad way? I'm not going to use the, you know, whatever. You can call me a nepo baby. No, no, but no, I mean, my point is I've talked to you a lot that have these great heads on their shoulders that have all like, have a good attitude about it and are very much aware when they went into auditions early on. Lily Rose Depp just did the podcast of like, when you walk in the room, there are expectations

and you must feel that early on. Was there, have you felt, you must in recent years felt that turning point where it kind of went from walking in with an expectation of who you were based on your parents versus who you are based on who you are. Has that, did that happen like a discernible period in your acting career that you can pinpoint? Or is it, kind of a slow evolution or what? I'm not sure. I guess like I always have, I think I just so desperately want to like be good,

want to deserve to be in the room that I'm in. I want to work my ass off. Like I love the feeling of working really hard. I love the feeling of exhaustion from good hard work. and um you don't always get that you know life can be exhausting when you're not working hard life can be exhausting in like all these different kind of stressful ways but like there's something so pure about being able to put your heart into something and your mind into something your body into something and and and really go for it and so I guess that I've always had such a big drive

to be able to do that that and I oh and I am really really hard on myself that I always feel like I'm harder on myself than anyone else in the room. And so it kind of doesn't matter. Like, you've, yeah, like, think the worst. Me too. I'm way, I'm way ahead of you. Whatever you're thinking. And then some. That's adorable. Oh, yeah, babes. Mm-hmm. Cute. Welcome up here. Yeah. You can get protein at home, or a protein latte at Tim's. No powders, no blenders, no shakers. Starting at 17 grams per medium latte, Tim's new protein lattes, protein without all the work,

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Because, like, you know. How crazy is that, right? It's crazy to look. It's only five years. It's got white the eye. Or maybe, I don't know what, it's like what came first, the chicken or the egg. Like, is it, is it, is it, did he see all, you know, did he see Mikey Madison and Sydney, Sweeney, and Austin Butler and think,

these are going to be, uh, big movie stars or did he put them in his movie and then they became big movie stars? A little bit of both. I mean, are you surprised, are you surprised at the trajectory of any of them, any of them in particular call you up? No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all.

No, I think, like, they're all insanely talented. and cool. Yeah. Do you find that you're gravitating? We talked about kind of the scripts you're gravitating towards whether you know it or not, whether the universe is pulling you towards the weird, even if you're saying you don't want the weird.

What about director-wise? Because again, you're kind of collecting all the cool kids. Well, no, I mean, yeah, actually. Accepted. Which way do I go here? Humble or true? No, because I could give it up. the director is because the director is amazing. So yeah, you're right. I'm really lucky. I

I guess I just want to feel safe, you know, and like I want to really trust the director. So if I can work with someone that I know knows better than me, it's a very good feeling, you know, because I am hard on myself. I will keep myself up all night thinking about coulda woulda shoulda and how to do right and blah, blah, blah, blah. But if I've gotten someone steering the ship that I know is incredibly capable, then those voices get a bit quieter and my life gets better. Right. So I actually had Billy Eichler on the other day.

He mentioned that you've seen apparently your second in the, in the trilogy, as it were, from Ethan and Trisha. So how is, how is Honey Don't? Give me your, I love it. Yeah. I love it. Well, I adore Ethan and Trish talking of like capable. steering of ship

their sets the most fun it's like it's just it's a vibe you know you just want to be there and they're such great people

I love them as humans I love them as artists and I think he would like they both like scoff even hearing me say the word artist they're just making fun of everything that they do everything that I do everything that we do as humans

and that's what I love about them and absolutely brilliant and I'm yeah I'm really excited about the movie and yeah you could probably describe some of some of those adjectives to Richard Linklider who's kind of like the chillest low-key brilliant filmmaker we have it's just sort of like the he's a vibe he's a vibe totally I got to I mean talk about movies that I you know grew up loving the sunset trilogy and then boyhood was super huge for me me because I'm the same age as the guy in boyhood and so as he's aging in the world those were the same things markers that were happening in the world while I was in seventh grade while I was

when my parents were getting divorced the same age that his parents were getting a divorce and I you know it was like so surreal for me to watch that movie and I actually saw one of my dear friends Phil Ettinger was in first reformed he's the guy that killed himself in first reformed and um Not in real life. And I'm sorry. And I saw Ethan Hawke at that premiere and like was just so Starstruck and told him on which I loved him and ran away. And then cut to 10 years later, I got to do a movie with him and Richard Link later.

And it was just like, well, okay, that's amazing. That's okay. Life is real. What? You're manifesting things left and right. I know a lot of people are excited for you, maybe not as excited as you are for yourself, that you did Happy Gilmore, too.

Congratulations. Yeah, that's the best thing that's ever happening. I brought my, yeah, the best things are ever me. I brought my dad to the Globes, the Golden Globes. And I sound like such an asshole, I'll say the Globes. I brought my dad to the Golden Globes, and he got to meet Adam Sandler, who's like, I mean, I think it's kind of like this.

everyone but in my family like adam sandler's the best guy in the world like right you want to you want to be like him you want to marry him you want he's the best you want your kids to be like him you want everyone just he's the best so uh we i mean also my dad's from wisconsin so there's like the chris farley affinity and um anyway my dad met sandler and my dad goes i can't even talk to you man I can't even talk to you. It was like the cutest thing I've ever seen. Amazing. And Adam's one of those guys that is exactly who you want him to be.

He's just that guy. Yeah, he's the best. I feel like my whole life in press has just become talking about Adam Sandler and I don't mind it. Yeah, why not? Yeah. At what point did you confess to him that Jack had lied on your behalf? Was there a point where you said, actually, I don't know how to golf? By the way, I can't golf.

Luckily, it wasn't, I wasn't, like, it wasn't a huge, I was, I do golf in the film, not to give away anything, but it wasn't like a, I don't think, you know, I'll just shut up, I just won't even, I'll just move on. I admitted that pretty quickly because I didn't want to get myself into hot water. I admitted it before I showed up. And I took lots of lessons. I'm still bad, but I did, I did try. Good for you. She's always willing to go for it. What can we manifest in our closing moments for you, Margaret?

Okay, so what filmmaker you want to work with, actor you want to work with? We talked a little bit about kind of more of a rom-com kind of thing, perhaps. But let's secret some stuff into the universe. What do we want? Okay. Let's see some stuff in the moment. Well, I want to choose this right. Yeah, you don't want to waste your wish.

your happy seg and fuse magical wish. I don't know. I want to do, I'm going to do like, to be honest, what I really want to do is like, like a big love story. And like,

I mean, who doesn't want like, like, you know, you want like the notebooky kind of thing. You want like, like one of those like epic love stories. I want one of those.

A little wallowland notebooky vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Someone like Margaret kiss in the rain. Yeah.

I want to kiss in the rain. Yeah. That's all. I'll do that one. I think the rest I can manifest in my journal. Like, I don't have to work too hard on getting like, you know, the sociopaths, the ones that. You got that walk down. You got that go crazy or whatever.

Like those I feel like if I'm. Yeah, I don't know. I'll manifest some sweet. Yeah, if you need a gig, just like, yeah, give me, give me a psychopath number three. I'm ready. Yeah. Okay, happy, say, I confused, profoundly random questions to round it out. I think I know the answer to the first one.

Dogs or cats? Dogs. What do you collect, if anything? Dreams. No. You almost sold me. You almost had me. What do I collect?

I don't know that I collect. I'm kind of getting rid of things all the time. I might not collect anything. That's good. I used to collect rocks, but what kid didn't collect rocks? And I used to like, I used to lug them around from one apartment to the next. And then I'd eventually, I just board them all in Washington Square Park. Happy ending.

I don't know if you're a gamer. Do you have a favorite video game of all time? I do not. But I'm in a video game. I'm in death streaming. So I'll say that. Hideo Kojima. Yeah.

I mean, come on. Yeah. Love him. Got a lot of gamer cred by working in that with that guy. Come on. I couldn't play the game, but I could tell you, I could read you the instructions. Did you, you never played it after you were in it? I haven't played the game.

I'm, I can't, I don't have the brain for that. Okay. But it's like. going to let people down probably so yeah what's the wallpaper on your phone a photo of jack holding smoky there you go yeah um worst note a director has ever given you um what's not helpful what's been the moment where you're like i think like oh we're not naming names it's okay okay I hope she doesn't see this because she had really good intentions but I remember someone whispering in my ear shame shame and I was like I love that so much

and it made me laugh you know I knew I could be going for it I was like but um but uh it made me laugh and again you're like you're like I hear that in my ear anyway I don't need you to say I feel that Yeah, yeah. I got you, babe. Yep, lots of it. All over. And then I promise this is it. Actor who makes you happy, happy second views, actor that makes you happy.

Adam Sandler? Yeah, that's a correct answer. Okay. Movie that makes you sad. Old yeller. Wow, old school. Okay. How old are you, Margaret? Have you ever cried harder in a movie that old Yeller?

I don't know if I've ever seen it. I know it's supposed to make you cry. Yeah, now that I'm a dog owner, I definitely won't. I don't need that. I'm not going to watch that. Prepared it to be destroyed. But dog dying a movie really gets me. Like when the dog dies and I am legend.

I can try to think you about it. Take a moment. And a food, shame, shame, shame. And a food that makes you confused. a food that makes me confused you don't get it why do people eat that why is that even on a menu right oh oh I was like I don't know if I guess

pomegranates are kind of hard to open yeah the physical act of eating them is hard no I mean you can take it that way a food that makes me confuse any kind of like weird fusion okay yeah just be I don't want

like yeah I don't want Be one thing or the other You don't need Guacamole on my raw fish No No I get it That makes sense

You aced it Congratulations on surviving your first happy second fuse It's been long overdue Congratulations honestly You know I'm a fan And you just Likewise

Thanks for having me everybody if you haven't seen the substance by now check it out what are you doing with your lives and um and i'll see you soon another silly award show hopefully and i look forward to it thank you margaret i appreciate you go give your dog extra love i know i tortured her in the interest of no it was really cute she's only her she was not in the mood lucy's usually much more chill wait smoky can say goodbye oh smoky Bye. When you're back in New York, I'm going to introduce Lucy to Smokey one of these days.

We'll see if they get along. That sounds good. Thank you, Josh. And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't pressured to do this by Josh. Hey, Michael.

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