Happy Sad Confused - MASTERS OF THE AIR (Austin Butler, Callum Turner, Barry Keoghan)

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

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I'll say Barry. I'll say you, Austin. I mean, Barry, again, end of salt. Maybe we should have a dance off. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. I'm Josh Horowitz, and today on Happy, Second, Confused. We have the Masters of the Air in the House. That's right. Austin Butler,

Callum Turner, Barry Keogan, and more. Hey, guys, welcome to another edition of Happy Say I Confused. I'm so thrilled to present this very special evening tape at the 92nd Street Y with a who's who of young amazing talent starring in the much-talked-about new Apple TV Plus series. I'm, of course, talking about Masters of the Air. This is the World War II era set show, a true story. of these amazing pilots that truly saved us from calamity, to say the least. This is from the makers of Band of Brothers, the Pacific, and it really features a who-s-who, of young talent. I'm so thrilled to introduce this to you guys because some of these folks are familiar to

Happy Seg and Fused, folks like Barry Keogan and Austin Butler, but to bring in new young talent like Anthony Boyle and Nate Mann into the mix, much less Calum Turner who's been around the block, but he's never been on the podcast. This was a very special treat. So here's why you're seeing me or hearing me do this preamble and not launching right into this event that was taped at 902nd Street Y. We had a major tech glitch. I know.

I am still recovering from this thing that killed me. Long story short, no one's fault, just one of these things. There was a tech glitch that 92Y experienced where in the. the first 20 minutes, really 15, six, between 15 and 20 minutes of audio, we're not recorded. Now, you're going to hear that and you're going to see that, but what we've done is basically crowdsourced folks that recorded it in the audience and did the best we could. My editor tried the suite in the audio as best he could. And what you're going to hear and see for the first part of this is rough, especially if you're just listening to this, it's going to be

rough. But rather than not expose you to it and give you the opportunity to do, experience it, I wanted to give you that option. So if you can't handle it, if it's just too annoying, I get it fast forward about 15 to 20 minutes in, and then you'll hear perfect audio, fantastic conversation. But it is what it is. I'm still gutted by it, but these things happen. Sometimes it's out of our control. We will endeavor to do better. I promise you. The good news is that most of this chat, the far majority of this chat, is great audio and certainly great content. The guys were in fine form. It's a fun conversation. So that's my preamble. And again, apologies for that. The good news, like I said, this is a who's who of young talent. Okay,

so we have Austin Butler returning to the podcast. Amazing. We have Barak Yogan returning to the podcast. Fantastic. He's a wild man and I'm obsessed. Calam Turner, his first appearance, unhappy, said, confused. So great. Anthony Boyle and Nate Mann. These are two young actors who you might not have seen yet, but they are ones to watch. When you see this series, you'll know why. And then we also have executive producer legend Gary Getsman, who also produced Band of Brothers and the Pacific alongside the likes of Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks. So it's a primo group, I will say that, and it was an electric night at 90 Second Street Y. 800 plus folks packed themselves into the auditorium, and it was as loud an event as I've

ever hosted. So you will feel that energy. And if you're watching on YouTube, you will see that energy. And I'm so thrilled to present it to you guys. If you want to get in on these live events, we have one more coming up. I mean, we've a lot more coming up, but we have one that's been announced. February 6th at 92nd Street, Wally, me and Emily Blunt, get your tickets now. We'll talk Oppenheimer, but a great many things. And she is, of course, one of the most delightful human beings in the universe, in addition to being a fantastic actor. So get your tickets now. link is in the bio you'll figure it out yeah in the event description the description for the video or the audio you'll see the link to buy tickets but come on out february 6th 7 p.m. me and

Emily blunt at 92nd Street Y what else to say just one more reminder yeah check out Masters of the Air Friday nights Apple TV Plus it's a nine-part series it's just ambitious huge storytelling at the highest scale with great acting talent production design music You'll see. It's fantastic. I hope you guys enjoy this conversation. What you're going to next hear and see is the guys have just been introduced by me and the bedlam starts. So again, apologies. The audio sucks in the beginning, but just do your best.

Stick with it. Or if you can't handle it, just skip ahead like 15 minutes and it'll all be great. Here is me with the cast of Masters of the Year. Thanks. You know. You guys are fine. I feel like they're a bomb. I just got to sing them.

Yeah, this is the concert. You ready to sing, dance? Yeah, I've been practicing. Yeah, this is your new boy, babe. because that's great, good time. How many of you are here because you're World War II buffs and how many are you are here just a star at this point? Congratulations on the show, guys. I've seen all nine parts.

Yes, you can hate me for it, but it's amazing. This is a hell-up undertaking for all of you. First of all, let's begin. Let's begin. Gary has the history here. I want to start with you, Gary, because you obviously were producer. Yeah, it's all on you, buddy. Set us up for us. Band of Brothers. Those are shows that truly changed television. And it took a while to get here.

It took a while to do this third in this trilogy of World War II stories. Why don't you take some damn long, Gary? What was the, what took so long to get here? Really afraid. Yes. There you go. It was here. Listen, these are, these take a long time to do. And we knew we wanted to do the air war over Europe,

but we didn't really have the technology for a long time. And when we felt safer with that, we had found Don's book and appreciated that. Then we started casting. And it was like, okay, we're doing this thing. Look at these guys. You guys have the two great is hype man. No, I'm telling you.

What's just do later? I don't think much hyping is needed tonight. The crowd is hyping themselves up. So talk to me a little bit, guys. I mean, first of all, who had the toughest audition process? Currently if I'm wrong, was this all on Zoom? The auditions for this? Wait, did you all audition?

There's always one in the group. You're saying, man. Barry, offer only, Barry. Offer only, Barry. Fuck see. Anthony, do you want to say something to Barry? Get it off your chest. Yeah, I was trying to have a straight offer.

Did they put you through the faces, Anthony? Yeah, I've done a couple of auditions. I done one, and it was, um, I didn't know who I was auditioning for, and it was, like, kind of, like, cocky or whatever. I done, like, a badge. bad James' theme impression. And then I read the script and read Crosby. In the first scene when he's throwing up, I said,

I want to play that guy. And I don't have teed for it. Luckily, Gary said, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure like that. Yeah. Um, Austin, you were coming off of a small undertaking called Elvis. He's not story of Elvis. You have not started?

No. No. Wow. You're not an emergency. You didn't tell you an origin, I'll tell them. Exactly. What's your truth, awesome? Well, I didn't hear about this until I was a few weeks from Al from finishing Elvis.

But what I didn't realize is Gary had already, you talked to Tom about me before in this. Well. That's just in your head. You think that was Tom? I'm losing it. That was Tom. I was Tom there. I was talking about it.

Oh, you thought. Tom was here? He thought that was a moment where he comes out. That would be great. Is he? This isn't enough. He's backstage. So Gary, are you saying that Austin was on your mind earlier? Listen, Lucy Bavin is an incredible casting director over the UK. And she had put together, she deserves everybody, and she'd put together groups of guys from parts as she saw it.

Everything changes, everything moves around all of that. of that but Austin was always in this very tight coterie of guys that maybe you could have drifted into a couple of the other parts or not he was in it I called Tom and I said buddy I think you're working with this kid Austin Butler that we feel pretty strongly about what do you think of him he said um he's um he's a solid citizen man he's uh but it was funny I think it was like rehearsally kind of thing there was a lot of going around then you remember Tom was the poster boy of COVID when he was down of Australia and it was very complicated period of time we were on we were off

we were in we were out and nothing was linear during that time so everybody's got a little different recollection of it and all Austin knows is what he's told because you don't really know right exactly what happened and when you know You know, it's true. All I know is that Tom and I were having dinner to me. And that's the first that I heard about it. But then I did have to audition, so I wasn't like Barry. I had to audition.

It's all just yell at Barry. You had to audition because of that group. You know, we have a lot of directors involved and Lucy and everybody, you know, should feel right about their feelings collaboratively about all these parts. And then we pull the chain. And that's it. That's what I kind of stumble. I mean, one of the words that keeps coming up, I know, is you guys repress is the responsibility.

And it's a real thing. Obviously, this is based very heavily on true events and true and people that you're playing and you're memorializing these amazing men, these true heroes. Does that hit you at every stage of the process? Like, calm, does that hit you only when you get on set, only on the press store? Is it useful to have that kind of weight on your shoulders? It's a great responsibility, you know, and like you said, it's the Bank of Brothers in the Pacific and this, and that's all of itself a big deal. And then you're representing people to save the world.

These guys wouldn't be here. And I really mean that they're superheroes. They put themselves in the most volatile situation to mankind ever. And that kind of war zone has never been repeated. 23% of them would come home, each mission. And somehow they found the cost to go back up every time. So that's what I love about the show. You get to experience the warfare and up in the skies,

and then you get to go back down to England and see the deal with loss and grief and losing their best friends and the toll that it has on their mind and their body and the spirit. One thing that I looked at this worker about how those previous series really launched so many actors, whether it's where Fastbender was in it, Tom Hardy, Andrew Scar. I mean it goes on and on. And on and on and on.

And, you know, for, you all kind of come with different levels of experience. I mean, Nate, this is, this is a job for you. But you worked, obviously, but fair to say, no. I was like, yeah, just another project. Yeah, no. Not really. Yeah. No.

I worked with PTA. I was in, well, I was Lickers pizza. Uh, oh, yeah, Lickrish Pizza. Which is about Gary. Uh. Yeah, about two minutes in Lickrish Pizza, but yeah, no, this is a different level phone call to join the project. Do you feel when you step on the set, is it obvious, like, oh, I'm in a multi-hundred million dollar production? Well, you know, and they're like, so, you know, we're going to, you know, we have this, this costume, it's an exact replica.

It's tailored to you. I mean, we're going to go through. This is a set that is a fully exact replica of that, and then you're going to hop into an actual Jeep from World War II, and we're, you know, a watch from a Lord or two, and, you know, step into a simulator. You're just like, okay, this is next level. And the level of preparation that, you know, you guys, that you're unable to do. I mean, there's a lot of talk about the famous food camp. Dale Die, for you, those I don't know, is like a legend.

He's the guy to get, to get people in shape for this kind of a thing. And I don't know, at least most of you, Barry, I don't know if you really, Yeah, I didn't do book camp either. What did I'm going to go? I just felt myself on set. I was like, oh, this is nice this channel. It wasn't intentional, so I don't want to be disrespectful. Well, I did come in late, so that's why I didn't do it.

Yeah, but... Where were you then, Barry? I don't know. Hey, listen, Brettin? Probably Barry out of boot camp. There's better than him in there. Couldn't have got anything done.

For the collective, I think, they're out. Came on the last day and six and photos. I did. I came and wished it all well and see you Monday. We were in the muck for about two weeks and she was up with her eating as Snickers. Alright points, so you're not all good, yeah. Do you remember a moment in boot camp where you guys really gelled where it felt like you were on the same page?

Does that happen in me? Barry. That's a question to everybody, like, Barry, I'm afraid. That was immediate, you know, and everyone realized the gravity of the situation and what we were trying to achieve. And then Gary got together a group of people that wanted to be good and wanted to honor the story and the legacy of these men. Now that's the funny part about boot camp, that actually the actors come to me and go, let's book camp. What are we doing? What are we, you know, and we actually had a shortened boot camp than what we have a band and then Pacific. And for a lot of reasons and stuff.

And by the way, these guys are pilots. The most important thing is that they fly. It's a little different skill set in some ways. But anyway, the actors love it, except for better. And you've got to respect that, right? Geez. I'm not worried about him faking like he can do anything. Is it fair to say there's a different temperament for these guys,

the guys that were in the air? Did you discover that? Because, I mean, the stats about the mortality rate of these guys, it's static. And they must have known that. That's got to, that's just got to be a different mindset for a pilot versus, you know, someone on the ground. Is that for the say? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just a different psychological toll that it takes because, you know, you talk about this a lot.

The juggernaut that was Band of Brothers where they're going all. all the way. With this, 77% of them may go down in one mission and then they go back and they take a girl out on a date in London and then they got to go back up in that plane. And so that back and forth is a kind of emotional trauma that I can't even fully comprehend. It's incredibly brave what they did. There was three days and it was your character and he goes out two days in a row, right? Yeah, yep. That's true to you.

I made, what was that like? Did you want to go in here? That must be a constant thing where, like, how would I exist in this moment? That must happen every single day, every situation like, this happened. This unbathomable thing happened to what he would be. Is it?

You know, when you talk to soldiers about, you know, being at war, what it's like. A lot of them talk about relying on your training, when you're training being sort of second nature. In their case, you know, was this machine, right, that had to know back and forth. Like, this was, this was, the machine was between you and death at any given moment. So this series is, you know, it's a lot of, it's a lot of moments like, okay, how do we

maintain control, right? Like, maintain control within that chaos, you know, and that's just full focus the whole time. I would imagine each of you, your favorite character, and this hopefully is your own, yes, her to say, or are you envious of anyone else? No, right now. My favorite character is a new booted dog. You have to do. So, that's awesome.

I couldn't sit. I was a new person. But, Cal, you know, but I mean, he's the life of the party. He is somebody that really enjoys life to its fullest. That must be, obviously, really stretched, because you seem like very boring, Yeah, that's a really draw on other people's experiences. What's it like to have fun?

Yeah, I read about books about fun. Yeah, he is, and actually, you know, my main goal is for people to watch it, to want to go for a dream. He's going to go to a drink. It seems like a good man. Great, I'll get the costume back in a room. No, he is. You know, the truth is, they say that in warfare,

you go 10 times. He'll be a bus and now he is. He's an extra brother and he goes probably a hundred times that way. I had the crux of who he is. He's someone that cares. He's a leader. He has that scene. I don't know. You guys, I don't know. You guys are the first guy to say that. And the second scene is immediately into the second person. He says to Cleven. I want to write the letters to the man that went down and their families because it's a personal touch. You know, more to me and more to them. And that's him. You know, it's got a hard goal. I'll feel it. I know you guys did a premiere, I think in L.A. got a chance to see some of the descendants, as I understand. So this keys into a question from Sabrina who sent in, are any of the airmen still alive or family members?

Were you able to meet any of them? Did you connect with any family throughout? Yeah, I've met some of Crosby's kids. I confirmed that like 10 minutes before we were born to the L.A. Someone said, oh, by the way, you're meeting all of his children. Jesus Christ I hope you don't get it and

one of his eldest son came up to me he said we were told don't expect to see her father on screen but I feel like we got dad back and it was like

such a full circle moment for me like the boss holding on that it was breath just like let him out it was like a real kind of like

full circle moment you know and I thought if the review was pan you know I don't really care you know I've got completely I think that's enough to have a lot of video. I thought he was going to jump in for a second so hot.

Don't do it at the night. First of all. I was all broke, man. I was all broke, man. I was going to say. I was going to take my teeth. I was going to say, I was trying to look for connections among you guys. At least two folks up here have Harry Potter Wizarding World connections. Anyone took Calum and Anthony, of course. Anyone else had a direct or indirect Harry Potter connection on audition? I was born and Gary, what he got up?

I hired Colleen Atwood as costume designer. That's in the business, and she tiddled in that world a little bit. So, anyway, that's the connection. I've got, Colleen Avenue. I told you say you're going to audition for Harry Potter. Barry, any audition stories? Harry Potter, Fantastic Beast, anything? I don't audition, I said.

No, not for Harry Potter, anyways. Austin, have you been sorted? Do you know what the house you're in? No, no. Oh, okay. I went to Harry Potter World. Okay. I did do that.

Do you get a wand? Do you get one of your own wands? No. Next time. Next time. Griffin door, you think? Okay. We're going to go around the room.

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You're pulling out the company. I mean, nobody's competing against this, man. Look how beautiful is. Just saying. I'm you as well, Cald. I'm used as well. Not really. But, like, you know.

Thank you. Speaking of auditions, correct me if I'm wrong, you almost played another airman. You auditioned for Top Gun Maverick. Here he goes. on the auditions. Yeah? Yeah. How'd that go?

Well, I ended up having to choose between going to the screen test for Top Gun Maverick or saying yes to Quentin Tarantino. And so I, and it had been my dream to work with Quentin for so long and I'd already met with him

and so I did that. And he got to fly in Masters of the Air. Followed his muse. It's a beautiful. thing. But Top Gun was incredible. I did love that. Can't do them all.

Yeah. They're all so amazing that. So, this is obviously an indelible experience. You shot this a fair amount ago, like two years ago, essentially, correct? Has the bond maintained? Is there a WhatsApp group? Is there a... Oh, Barry's

not in it. If there is one. The feckin is, isn't it? You've actually... You've got audition for the WhatsApp group. Hi. But if you don't audition, then you're out. Okay, we'll start the group tonight, and Barry, you get to be in it. I tried to start a group, but I actually don't have your number.

Yeah, that's not an accident. I'll give you my number, Barry. Finally, after all these years. This is what you've done, man. No, we're supposed to go over dinner after this. Do we go up against each other? Is there a sense of healthy, I mean, like, you're in boot camp together. You've got each other's back

But I would imagine there's also like a camaraderie Slash competitive No, there is, okay, honestly There's, no, no, not competitive It's, no, but the camaraderie is there And, you know... In boot camp, I can't say, I can't say anything. Let's get bootcap, generally, in general, there was,

It was very, you know, it's also a recipe for egos And there was none of that in set. I mean, everyone was kind of just supportive of each other And really there for one another and, yeah, I love you. I mean that. I love you, too, Barry. I just thought that felt right there.

We've already been through a journey together. It's all love, guys. We're good. Nikki from Australia wants to know, for us that or any of you, did you listen to any 1940s music while you were preparing for the role? Oh, yeah.

Column did. I used to hear it from his trailer. I actually had an 1840s Spotify playlist. Benny Goodman and, yeah, I love that stuff. I'm in the mood. And when, like, Serenade. that's definitely the thing that got me in there.

I mean, that must help. I know. You can't forget what year it is, but to take away all those accouturements, like I know, like Quentin obviously doesn't have cell phones on a set, but any small thing you can do to kind of forget must be invaluable. Did it feel like a little bit of like, you know, this is pandemic times too. You're kind of isolated, you're all together.

Did it feel like a bottled, interesting escape from the rest of your normal life to be there? I mean, for me it did. I'd come straight from Australia as well, and I didn't go back home, and so I still hadn't seen my family in so long. So these guys became my brothers. I mean, that time was really, it was kind of me also finding who I was again, you know, what I like to do, and just being surrounded by a bunch of great people was an immersion for me, and it was beautiful. toughest accent to nail down anybody do you all have do you enjoy that assuming a different voice for a character all of you it's part of it you know it's it's great it's great when you find someone I mean Crosby I had this like 10 minute clip of him it's 10 minute clip of him speaking when he was

about 70 years old and he still had this like kind of strange cadence and strange like rhythm and it just became addictive I would play it every day going to set for like you know the hour long it took until I got the voice done, and then by the time you're on set, it's sort of embedded in you. But it's a lot of fun getting to do those voices. You also had two of the most amazing dialect coaches. Brett Time and had Ashton, who, you know, looked after everyone.

They're saying, like, how many speaking parts? 325.25 speaking parts. And they would dedicate their time to everyone, and everyone got their hour a day. And actually, to your previous question, I think that Gary set it up. We had everything. We had adequate lessons. We had dance lessons. We had music lessons. We had that boot camp to and flight lessons. And there was a whole array of people that were doing it. Even the supporting artists were doing dance lessons. You know, so everyone across the board was in the space. It was really a beautiful, immersive experience. And it's a long shoot. I mean, Gary, like, what's your role once you're in production for you and or Tom on set? Are you the motivator making sure everybody has what they need?

I'm just dad. You know, it's really that thing where all the departments need sometimes some fatherly guidance to. And you just want to have the most loving, happy ship you can possibly have because it's conducive

to good work. And that's your job. That's what you do. It's kind of old style producing because you're on it from the thought till now. And it's, you know, it's just a different thing. You know, I mean, we all know each other well because we're always together. You know, that was it. I would imagine at some point Tom Hanks and or Steven Spielberg show up on set, and that's got to be both an intimidating and exciting moment. Any memories of either of them? Nothing but a loving experience. You know,

we've got a real shorthand between the three of us. We've worked together for a long time. What's going on? Well, the energy just shifted. Decided to get their questions. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, here's a deal. Here's a deal.

The best question of the night is going to get this lucky deuce. Wow. That's fake one dollar, I mean. And I hope you remember that. Yeah, I was going to say, I'm definitely not getting that. I'm going to give it to. I'm going to give it to Josh, not because I trust them. No, yeah.

But just because. Okay. I got your back. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, guys. They just reprinted those. I learned it.

That's right. This is the first printing of any bill since the pandemic began. And so, Barry. Can I win it? If you have a good question. No. All right. We will award this $2 bill to somebody.

Let me think of a question. What's it like to step in soon? these replicas. I mean, it must be all inspiring, the attention to detail. When you first stepped into the B-17 replicas, what was it like? And it was so, so incredible. We've talked a lot about this, how there was the old school way of filmmaking, which is building, what was it, 81 buildings? You know, for all the, more than that? They gave us a map so we could get around the set because it was so enormous. But then the new school, way of making films was how we shot that was on a gimbal 50 feet in the air with the volume

screens. And so they're high-definition screens that you can see the fighter pilots flying by you and you can see flack in the distance. And it's such a gift as an actor to have that. So, yeah, it really, it does so much of the hard lifting for you because with a green screen, you'd have to be imagining all that. But with this, you're just immersed in it. It's really incredible. I would imagine long hours in that confined space, you're like, oh, I'm... Yeah, we would joke that we got jet lag.

The screens is, you know, so it's high HD and high definitions, so you're just up there and it's a slog, but it's it's nothing compared to what the guys went through. I'm not complaining. No, but I mean, Barry, you joke, but it's actually a serious thing.

Like, to be able to act under, you know, with not much of your face showing, is that something you're conscious of? Like, you're like... You didn't have for the audition, but didn't you? You put a mask in your face. No, I mean, look, as Austin said, the lads provided everything for us,

and we didn't really have to do a whole lot, but convey through the eyes. I mean, there was, like, little explosions up there, and, I mean, that was quite, you know, nerve-wracking and stuff like that. But, you know, the crane had moves about And being on the volume, like, we'd have the flak coming towards us. We'd have the oil line for the different aircrafts.

And it was, you know, we just had to be kind of familiar with the cockpit. When you approach something like this, I would imagine, look, you've obviously got the scripts, you've got the source material, the book, and you've got this voluminous other research material you could call upon. Is it useful once you're in it for you? And it probably differs from actor to actor. I would imagine. What are you drawing upon? Is it, are you script-based? Are you reading the original book? Where are you at once you're making the show? I mean, I was very lucky. I had the book

to go off, but Crosby also had written a memoir called On a Wing and a Prayer. And when I was reading that, he's so self-deprecating. He's so funny. You've really got a sense of like what was really happening in his life and in his soul reading that book. And it sort of became like a Bible for me. I was just going to that every night. and it was really useful. I mean, his life could be its own remarkable. Biopic, Gary? Spinoff show.

They all could. Season two, Crosby's Teal? No, I mean. Anyone? Woo! Okay, ladies and gentlemen, Rosby's Till! Hey!

No. We talked about this, Anthony. Nope. A lot of nicknames in this show. A lot of character. It's something to have both a buck and a bucky on one show. That means something. You nicknames, guys?

Do you each have a nickname in your, among your friends and family? No. Nothing. Just at work. The work? We call you the work? At work. Okay.

Call you the work? Here comes the work. Again. No other nicknames. Barry, you have to have a choice nickname. I don't know I say. Anto. That's your nickname.

Anton? Yeah, Anto. Anto. Okay. Very nice. Peace, sir. My sister, who I think is here, is the only one who I let call me Natey. Oh.

Come on, Nate's mom and dad are in the audience tonight. I think that's pretty special. Stand up, you guys. Where are you? Shout out. If they walked out on their son's show, Wow It must be also

Look again this was shot a while back This is a hell of production And it must be amazing to see where you all Have already gone in your young careers Like when you make the show And then you see Elvis Are you like oh that's the guy I just worked with Hadn't been released

No I'm saying since then Since then Wow Gary We didn't know I mean, that must be an interesting experience to have worked with a guy and then a year later to see what he's capable of in a different kind of guise. Yeah, I had seen Austin in the Quentin Tarantino film and thought he was phenomenal. And then take a bow, take a bow.

Come on. Don't do that. And then, you know, I had worked with him on Masters of the Air, which was such a completely different role. And when I went and seen him in Elvis, I was so blown away. I just thought it was the most exciting performance I ever seen. just unbelievable incredible work I love you I love you can't say it after I said it

I love you too okay all right let's talk about saltburn everybody favorite favorite scene in saltburn anybody would nominate there are a lot of amazing memorable moments let's embarrass Barry grave scene

anyone anyone you want me to say some you got said it all in the movie right show it all just reenact the entire movie all right talk to me about this let's do some most likely to's among the cast on set okay most likely to

be caught reading additional material not just the script answer yeah yeah I was going to answer Nate but yeah I'll take it That makes me sound cool. Who's got the best facial hair in this cast?

Wow, big question. Thank you. Gary. I mean, Gary's got it, man. Gary. I think it's between you guys. Calum, were you happy with your, were you happy with your facial hair, Callum?

Who has facial? Look at that mustache. That's what I'm saying. That's gorgeous. No, Austin just asked me if Nate had a mustache in the show. Yeah, he does. He's right there. Of course he does.

Best singer in the cast. Callum. Callum. Wow. As if... That scene was great. I loved getting to watch you sing all day. Has there been a...

I sang on This Morning America. What was the show? Today show. Today show. I'm not singing again. He sang Wonderwall. You know whose turn it is. He sang Wonderwall.

Right? Right? If anyone's singing. What? I'm telling you, this is the big... It's not just a duet. It's an entire band, guys. We said, this is a boy band.

We're actually working on a Christmas album. Yeah. There's our exclusive, thank you. 2026. Is the name of the bandmasters of the air, or are you just called Wrong Direction? Wrong direction. Wrong direction.

What is that to live? Best dancer in the group? Yeah, her butler. Wait, did you say best dancer? Yeah, best dancer. I mean, fucking hell. I'll say Barry. I'll say you, I'll say you, I still.

I mean, Barry, again, end of soccer. Maybe we should have a dance off. That's what I'm feeling, Josh. You said it. The work. The work strikes again. That's the joys of being English, you know. I've got all these American friends,

and they've got no idea what I'm saying most of the time. That's why they like me. Did you keep the American accent the whole time, or can you go in and out of it on set? I did. I like to do that, and it just is more helpful for me because my concentration level is so bad

that if I just stay in it, it's easier. My poor dog. He wakes up, he's like, what's he going to sound like today? My owner's bonkers. Yeah, my schizophrenic. owner. Oh, you know, easy.

Best fashion sense in this amazing... Barry. Look at Barry's looks. Come on. Barry, you want to do a little run? Yeah, what did you say? Thank you. I want to see you.

Okay. Okay, most likely to get their pilot's license after this. Knit. You caught the bug name? Yeah, yeah. I can get my pilot's license. Izzy has her pilot's license. Can you believe that?

23 years old, the girl with Austin, the first scene. I don't know if you know her from 1883, right? She's amazing, isn't she? Really a great gal. Yeah, that's incredible. I mean, there's some strong, wonderful female performances in this, the wonderful Belle Pauley, fantastic. But it is, I would imagine, a pretty high dude quotient on the set.

Was this like the most dude-centric set any of you guys have ever been on? No, Gary, you're saying, not really? No, they're feminine. These guys, they go to their softer side. They're not afraid to really embrace it. They're not like butch guys. you're like, yeah, they're beautiful men, right? I'm just saying,

just, yeah, we all agree on this. I mean, it's the most guys that I've been around in a long time, so I don't know what they're talking about, but they were sensitive and vulnerable men. Who's got the best Tom Hanks impression among the group? Anybody got a Tom Hanks? Oh, you pointed to Anthony. I bet Anto

Anto has a good one I don't have one I mean Gary's spent the most time with him probably so I'd probably guess Gary I think he's doing my imitation by now so I'm up Tom's in doing you now you guys have spent a lot of quality time

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you have so many amazing projects coming up. This is a question for Austin and Barry. Who's more of a psychopath, Fade or Joker? Wow. I don't know. I mean, Fade is pretty psychotic. I mean. But, I mean,

They'd probably like hanging out together. I'd never see them two in a movie to get a road trip. Yeah, definitely. This isn't a question, Barry, because I assume we're going to see more a Joker in the script that Matt Reeves is working on. How much do you know and how excited are you about returning to that character? Hmm. there's our sneak peek

that's it right there's fair to say you would be excited to get back to work there's more to be done okay can I get a call from Warner Brothers out Austin knows how obsessed I am with Dune I'm so excited for this morning You've seen it, as I understand.

I have seen it. Can you say a little bit just what inspired someone like Fade, who's a character we've never seen you nearly approximate? This is a whole new thing. What inspired me deciding to do that? No, inspired you, like inspired the actual characterization of Fade. Music, inspiration, films, other characters. Yeah, animals, you know, like a snake and a shark.

Um, and, uh, yeah, looking at, looking back at certain cultures through time that have, um, been, been bred in brutality, you know, um, so certain books that I read about, um, because I was, that's the thing. I was trying to find what's the, I didn't want to play a caricature of him, but what is some, what does somebody become when they're born in brutality? and they must act with violence in order to survive. Who does that person become? He looks like a sweetheart. He looks like a... Well, yeah, he's cuddly and bald. I'm very excited for it. Congratulations, man.

All right, so some wonderful questions from the audience. I've been told this is amazing. The son of Rosie Rosenthal, Nate, your character, is in the audience. Okay, stand up, Dan Rosenthal. Can we give them a hand? Please. Thank you. That kind.

That kind of thing does not happen on every project, as you know. That's really special. That's amazing. Kaylee wants to know compared to your past projects how is the preparation different for filming this series? Maybe I want to take that.

Kaylee has stumped the crowd. No, it is different. I mean, we're all playing real people. I mean, some of us have played, you know, people who play real people. But this, you know, between the book and Donald Miller, who wrote, the book, got to know these guys really well, and then, you know, Crosby wrote his book,

and there was a series of interviews with my character, with Rosie, where he talks about his life, not just during the war, but before growing up here, actually, in Brooklyn, and choosing to become a lawyer, and what made him enlist and all that. So there's a certain, you know, other amount of content that you can sink your teeth into, not to mention meeting Dan, my character's son, which is, you know, kind of another aspect of, I mean, it must be very my dad who's here like if somebody came to me and was like I'm about to play your dad you know I mean what an intense experience uh but to play your dad right yeah are you yeah I am oh really did you auditioned what I audition for that one yeah how do you do dad yeah uh what a way to find out

yeah um but yeah that's it yeah um Rowan wants to know do you think you'd get along with your character in real life. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think Crosby would stress me out of first, and then I think I would love him so much. It depends where I'm at him, like, in what stage of his life.

But I think I would grow to be his best friend. Aw. See, they're tender men. Anthony needs a play, guys. He needs a Broadway musical. In his future. He says that about all his characters. That might be a contender for a $2 bill.

What do you think, Gary? Is that an early contender? I think it's in the mix. Okay. Rowan, you're up there right now. Okay. Aisha wants to know. Thank you, Aisha.

Hey, good on you. I like Aisha. Asia, what aspects of playing your character presented the most significant challenges for you? Biggest challenge. I think challenges, I think it was more real. For me anyways, you know, realizing that these kids basically had to be men and, you know, understanding that we have a lot of privileges these days and just kind of coming out with a massive gratitude towards it.

I don't think, like I'm not going to say challenges because we, it does no comparison to what they went through. And again, we've got the comfort of having coffee sent up to us and fecking everything else. So it's not really a challenge. it's really a kind of a realization and a grateful one. That was the best answer, by the way. Wow. It was that $2 bill. It's for the question, Barry.

Geez. Would you trust any of these gentlemen to throw a dart at an apple sitting on top of your head? No. That's trust. That's love. You would trust, Austin? You would trust me? I think you could trust me.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I could do that. Have you ever frown a doubt before? I've done an adult. Yeah. Oh, that's a mistake. I wouldn't trust me. I wouldn't trust, no.

I would not trust Barry. Benny. Actually, no, I trust you, Barry. Yeah, sure, man. Give's an apple. Let's get an apple. Yeah, let's get an apple out. Let's test it, guys.

Benny wants to know, look, you just only saw the first episode. Benny wants to know, what are you most excited for people to see in the coming episodes? It takes some turns, man. This is an epic show in everyone. Belle Polly's performance in the later episodes, she's phenomenal. I think people are really going to fall in love with her. I think she's amazing it. Yeah.

No, no, no. Unless. No, no, no, no, no, no. Megan, I hope that's Megan. Megan from New York City wants to know, favorite or most intense scene to film. What's going to stick with you for the rest of time? It was all chill.

It was easy. It was you, Callum, in the air, the parachute. Come on. No, my favorite scene actually, sorry, Austin. It was Barry on the wing. We have a scrap. Ah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Tell them what happened. Barry's come up with this elaborate story that he punched me in the face. But he didn't get any of me. He went like that. Whoa. I wabbled you. He didn't.

I went like, he's all right. He's all right. No, that was a good scene. He didn't. All the scenes on me in are good scene. All the scene. Any scene that Barry's in is actually my favorite scene. Barry was so happy when you said it was a scene with him.

I just saw him light up. He just got so excited. I'm sorry, Austin. Speaking of Barry controversies, what's the boxing story? I feel like I've watched all these interviews with you guys, and I've heard different things. about who was a boxer, who taught who had a box, who's the best boxer.

Let's set the record straight. Barry's basically a professional boxer. He's going pro? Yeah, he admits with him, everything. Yeah, so I'd say Barry. Someone said seriously? No. No, we'd box on the set.

And look, it's a way to kind of, you know, get to know one another, and it's... We kind of kept here within the period. Like, we'd play card games and dice games, and, you know, there was no really phones on set, and I think boxing's kind of timeless, if you get me. We're going to end with the happy, say, a confused, random questionnaire.

But before we do that, should we bestow who won? Who got the, I think Rowan maybe? Josh, you were a professional questionnaire. I think it's your question. Yes. I think Rowan won the $2 a bill. Where is Rowland? How is Rowan?

Can you stand up, Rowan? So while Rowan comes down and gets her bow, the happy, say, I confused, profoundly random questionnaire begins with, and you have a second to think about this, what do you collect, anything you guys collect? Congrats, Roan. I'm going to give it to you right here. From Gary Getsman, executive producer of Masters of here.

Anybody collect anything here? You know what I've got I framed it It's the take off and land And procedures And I stole it And it was something that we studied And I'm not one of those actors

It likes to have a poster of myself in my house I think that's lame as fuck But I like to have memorabilia And I have that framed in my kitchen Okay What's the wallpaper on your phone? Anybody want to it Bear's looking

What do you got My dog. Your dog. Of course. Very good. Anyone else? Anyone? Can't say.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. It's a picture of me. Austin has a picture of me. Last actor you were mistaken for. Did you get mistaken for a... Tom Hardy. Really? Honestly, I got that.

I was like, wow. No kidding. Where was that, Barry? Where was that? You used to say to me all the time He's got a Tom Hardy vibe He's a live wire Best karaoke song

Hey Tom He's gonna watch Tom loves coming to the 90 Y Best karaoke song is What's your go-to? Anybody? I bet you look good on the dance floor, Arctic Monkeys okay that's a good one

okay what's the worst note a director has ever given you quicker faster funnier that's my best note

I don't know that wasn't a joke anything jump to mind Austin or Barry a note that really that's just not helpful um what's hell

Or the flip side? What's helpful? What do you want to hear from a director? Something different. Like, you know, you don't want to go in with kind of preempting stuff. You want to kind of be open to doing different things. Right. Additive as opposed to closing you off to ideas.

Right? Oh, he went there. He went somewhere. I don't know. I went somewhere in a half a second. No, but like you want to, you kind of, I mean, Austin, what? Help us. Help me.

Yeah. You know, for me, I think it's when it's not something external and it's something that, you know, helps you to, I don't know, you're living within that world and you don't want somebody to take you out of it, you know. So. Yeah, good directors don't, like, really give you notes, to be fair, right? I mean, the best, they don't. They kind of cash you.

it because of that. 90% is casting. You know, somebody like even Kevin Smith, did I tell you what he did with me, which I actually kind of loved, which he would watch it, and then he'd have you watch playback with him.

And he'd go, all right, that's in the movie, that's in the movie, try something different in that moment, that's in the movie. And so then you have this feeling of like, all right, we got all that other stuff. Now just try something different in that moment. And that was kind of freeing.

That's the first time that I ever watched playback because I used to hate watching it. But then I kind of saw, you can use it as a tool in a moment like that. I don't know. It's trust. That and don't look at the camera is a great. Yeah, don't look at the camera. Good note for the young actors out there.

In the spirit of Happy Second Fuse, an actor that always makes you happy. You see them on screen. You're in a good mood. John C. Riley. Nice. Michael Sarah. It's amazing.

Shout out to Alan and Barbie Barry. Barry, are you enough to be in the sequel to Barbie? Are you ready? Yeah, give a call, please. Seriously, though. I'm being honest. I love it.

But no audition, obviously. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Movie that makes you sad. Always makes you sad. I just watched The Holdovers, which was amazing movie. Mids a movie. Very sad.

Yeah. All right. Finally, food that makes you confused. What food do you just not get? Obergine. Eggplant. Eggplant. That's what the, yeah,

obergene. What is, texture is? That's fair. I could go with that, actually. Yeah, eggplant. Is that what you call here? Yeah, right, that's the same thing. Yeah, same thing.

Yeah, you got it. What's yams? What's yams? Yeah. Keep hearing yams in America. Is that sweet potato or is that? It's in the family. It's in the family.

Yeah. What was it? Wow. We had a breakthrough at the very end, didn't we? Here we are. Congratulations, gentlemen. So, Masters of the Air, I just want to say it's a phenomenal show.

It's nine-part. You've seen the first part. It's on Apple TV Plus on Fridays. Check it out, Spread the Good Word. Congratulations to this amazing cast, Gary Getsman. Thank you guys so much for coming out. And thank you all for being here. Masters of the Year.

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