Happy Sad Confused - Milly Alcock

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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Acting is so embarrassing. I don't think people realize actually how utterly embarrassing. Yeah. It is because you also have to try things and sometimes it doesn't land. But it's a part of the job is like taking a risk or swinging and you're like, okay, that didn't work, but let me like try it again. Right. And you have to have trust.

The director has to trust you to try things. Yes. Because sometimes you swing and it's a home run. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins. Hey guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Han. Happy Sag Confused.

Today on the show, Supergirl is here. That's right, Millie Alcock talking after a very long press store and her final interview promoting Supergirl. Very excited for this one. Thanks, guys, as always, we're checking out the podcast. As always, if you like what I do, I'll remind you, Patreon.com slash happy Sayac Confused. That's your friend because over there,

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And this was a fun one because this was literally her last interview of very, very long press tour for a major moment for her. She is, of course, starring in Supergirl as Supergirl. And as you'll be able to tell from Millie, she is not that polished kind of like canned response interview. which makes her a great interviewee. She is honest and open and funny and serious about the work, but also has it very much in perspective. I really dug talking to her. This was her first time on the podcast, and she's just getting started, obviously with House of the Dragon a couple years back and now with Supergirl. She's already filming her role in the new Superman film Man of Tomorrow and a lot more to come. So I'm thrilled she did the podcast. I'm thrilled this is happening. I'm thrilled it was the last

of her long press door because she was in a great mood. I think you guys, are going to enjoy this one so without any further ado here is me and millie alcock enjoy millie hi this is it this is it i have just learned this is millie alcox essentially i think it's your final interview of your supergirl press tour it is okay it is it is i feel pressure i feel an honor don't it's gonna be great it's gonna be fab um this is similar i had this experience once before with with paul mescal on the gladiator two Press store and he was just it was it was more therapy session so feel free they can't fire you now they can't fire me now the movie's coming out the movie's gonna come out so soon so soon we're hours

away congratulations thank you how are you feeling because it's it's I know that's a loaded question you've got a question for months for years now but maybe now you can answer it more accurately than ever because you really are at the end the finish line is right that can do you feel it yeah I mean, making a film is so difficult. It's honestly astonishing that we ever see anything on screen. And this has been such a long journey. And I'm so excited for it to just be out in the world.

I'm ready to give birth to this film. Just look at the movie already. Let's not talking about it. Just stop talking. Just like, go see it, guys. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm really ready. We're all ready.

Yeah. You kill it in this. You've heard that a lot. I'll say, I'll echo everybody. You were born apparently to play this role. You're amazing. Congrats. So at what point in this process did you realize that the real work of doing this was this part of it?

Pretty quickly. Yeah, it really is. Like the whole press side is so different because when you're an actor, you know, you go to drama school and they teach you how to act. They don't teach you how to do press. And it really is baptism by fire. like in any other industry, you know, they would train you up, you'd have an orientation, you wouldn't be like straight away thrown into, into all of these really big, scary scenarios. So it's been a massive learning experience. And yeah, this is, this is the real job,

part of it. Are you good at like, do you get the talking points? You're like trying to memorize, what am I supposed to say? What am I not supposed to say? I don't like being told what to do. Good. That makes for a better interview. Yeah. I mean, have you ever talked about yourself for such a sustained period of time. I'm so fucking sick of myself. Can I swear? Yes. Okay.

I'm so sick of myself. Like people are only so interesting. I'm only so interesting to myself, let alone other people. Oh my God. I'm so sick of my face. And I really hate attention. So this is just like really bad. You made some bad career choices.

Really bad career choice. I didn't think I would make it, you know. It's like act as notoriously is an incredibly difficult competitive industry. Yeah. I didn't think I would be. successful. Yeah, you know, I mean, what are the odds? What are the odds? I know that's very, like, anti what you're meant to say. You're meant to be like, believe in yourself. You could do it. And I'm like, girl, no. No, you're smart enough to know the odds. And this is, this is not going to happen.

This never happens. I'm a realist. I'm not, yeah. Let alone you're, I mean, officially your first movie. I get, well, Superman is the first movie, I guess. Yeah, but this is like my first movie, basically. Which is, again. Yeah, you should play the lottery because this is, this doesn't happen. I should. Maybe I'll do that today. Yeah, get a scratch off. Do something. I'll get a scratch. I'll do something. What's been the, what's been the question we need to retire from the press story? The suit, if one more person asked me about the fucking suit, I'm not going to lose my mind. They're like, what was it like to have the suit for the first time? And I get it. It's important, but it's just a very boring answer because there isn't like all things in life that happen.

There wasn't a big moment that spotlight doesn't come out on you. No, music doesn't start playing. I don't suddenly feel like I am super. super girl, you know. Right. Yeah, it's like all moments that you think are going to be really big or flat, in fact, incredibly small. Yes. And it's always like the car ride back from the audition that's the big moment or the phone call,

you know what I mean? The little things in between, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Life happens in the smaller moments. So where have you been on the tour? Have you traveled around the world, I assume? Yes. I've been to L.A., Mexico City, New York, Brazil, London.

I'm back to New York. I haven't had a day off in three weeks. I'm dying. You're just rowling for 35 minutes from me. I appreciate you. Yeah, it's okay. You were in Japan, but I think that was for a job. That was for a job.

I'm jealous because Japan's my favorite. Outside of New York, it's my favorite place. As a foodie, because we're both foodies. Yeah, we like food. How was it? Amazing. It's really hard to get a bad meal. Right?

It's so hard to get a bad meal. Even like the convenience. I know. I got obsessed. I got obsessed with the sweet potatoes. Right? That you can just buy. from like if you go to yeah or if you go to like a really good grocery store they have them cooked

and they're so sweet and so good that and onagiri's were just like the easiest grab and go food like it's really hard to find they've really cracked the code they have in the steak i had some cobay steak come on that was insane okay we'll come to that a little bit uh because i do want to hear a little bit about that film because that sounds exciting too but um so in the course of this i would imagine some things keep you going. Like you know you're proud of the product. You know that like it's it's turned out well and you're satisfied hopefully. But also just seeing like fans like at these events, seeing little girls probably dressed up as super girl. It's not about you. It's actually not about me. You know, playing a part that is so beloved to a preexisting audience. It's like anything that has preexisting

IP. Yeah. It's not about you in this really bizarre roundabout way. It's about them and the impact that hopefully this film has on them and for them to be seen. Yeah. And that's always really important, I think, just to kind of remind, just remind yourself. It's not about you. Do you get like a little emotional at any point when you like see a little girl like? I did. Yeah. Yeah.

Whenever people would ask me about my mom, I got really emotional. I was also just really tired. I was like, my mom. Moms do that. Yeah. Was there, so for you growing up, was there like a super girl kind of like heroic figure, either in fiction or in real life that you kind of put on a pedestal? that was meaningful to you?

I love Shockboy and Love a Girl. Say it again? Shock Boy and LaVa Girl? You know, LaVa Girl? Was not expecting that answer. The Incredibles. No, but when I was a little girl, like that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, yeah, that works.

Yeah. Yeah. Like those kind of girls. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the Spy Kids like the Spinoffs, right? Yeah. Spite Kid Possible.

Right. Like those types of shows growing up. I mean, you were a Disney star, we should say. Guys. I saw Fallon kind of rat you out. I know he, I know. I don't know where he dug up that photo because I was looking online. So you were.

I was a B.F. Chef. But wait, there was another show too that I saw, like on the IMDB. Wait, let me go into my records. It said you were a presenter on a show as well. That was the show. Oh, that was the show. So you were playing Millie. You were just Millie.

I was Millie, the Helthnut. BAM. They each gave us like a thing. Which upon reflection, I was like, okay, that's interesting, considering who you cost. to be who? So was there, at that point, was there an aspiration, like, because you're in the pantheon, you're in the Ryan Goslings, the Zendayas, you're part of the team, you're the Disney Star team. No, I'm not. So not. I was like on the shows that, in between the shows that people actually wanted to watch, telling them how to make, you know, a fruit salad. Right.

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strange relationship with yourself. Yeah, you do. I mean, so what, like, how do we figure this out? Like, you obviously love to perform. You love to be in front of a camera. You love to inhabit other characters. But then you also don't like the- I don't want to be seen. It's a weird relationship where it's like my dream would be like skin suit.

Hit me out. I act in a different like physical body and face and I can take it off. Okay. I just don't, yeah, that would be like my dream, I think. Yeah. To do it. But that's the kind of cost of it. And some people idolize that and some people really want that.

And some people feel like it's not a problem and it's not a problem. So there's also this weird thing of like you can't feel bad about it because you put yourself there and you're successful. And there's people that, you know, the world is fucked so badly. Yeah. So irreversibly badly. Yeah. So you can't complain. Right.

It sounds, again, we all have to keep this in context. Like, yes. But people don't like context. People don't like it. We're not an age of context. People don't like context at all. Yeah. We sound like uppity, whatever, like, oh, you're complaining.

You're like on a movie poster. But again, the in-between stuff can, you know, wear on you. It's a lot. I think as consumers, we should all try and be a bit kinder. This is. To people. Yeah. And just remember that everyone's human.

Everyone's struggling through their own things. Everyone's just a person, you know, at the end of the day. How's the social media thing? Like, were you on social media back on House of the Dragon Days? Have you been on consistently? Yeah. Has that been something to navigate? Yeah, it's a working relationship.

And I'm trying to get offered a lot more. I'm trying to get people to manage it for me. But then there is a part of you that, like, wants to read all the bad comments because it fulfills your own self belief about yourself. You're like, see, they know. They see the real me. They see the real me. They see the real me, I am a terrible person. Oh, no.

You know? But I think that's just what humans do. Yeah, I always say. It'd be stranger if I was the opposite. And people don't talk about that. No, I talk about that on this podcast. I always say I don't trust the people that think they're like perfect. And because I don't.

I don't. No one does. Perfect is boring. Perfect is boring. Really boring. That segues well into this character. She's not perfect. No.

She's messy in the best possible way. Human. Imagine that. Yeah. When this came around, had you ever done like a comic book audition? Like,

had you ever been up for anything like this? No. So, long process, I take it. No. No? It was two auditions.

Seriously? Yeah. You're too good. James Gunn just sent me like a WhatsApp text with the deadline article when I got the part.

He didn't even call me. Which I was like, this is a calling. situation. Yes. This elevates to that level. This is FaceTime. This is something. This is something. I just awoke to like a message. Not like FI. It was just like a link to the deadline article. And I was like, okay. And then I called him. Right. And yeah. So those, so two sessions with James, two camera tests like screen tests? One self-tape. I was in Australia. I'd just gone home for the first time in very, very long. And then they were like, come do a screen test in Atlanta. And I was

like, what's a screen test? And I've discovered, I've never done a screen test before. They, like, shoot you as if you're doing a day on set so that you get in hair and makeup, you wear clothes that they pick out. And it was me and another girl and you're, like, in the same makeup truck, like, sussing each other out. And I'm like, oh, she's like me, but, like, prettier and more polished. So another actor that was trying to get the role? Yeah, yeah. But they do that with all of these things. So, like, I don't get that. Sometimes they do, like, seven different people, but it was just me and one of the girl. That seems to be like a psychological test because there's a...

That seems mean. There's enough room on the sound stages to find someone at another trailer. Yeah. Oh, no, the trailers are separate, but like you'll do hair and makeup. This is one hair and makeup trailer. What's the etiquette with the other actor? You say, hi. Hey, you say, hi.

Good luck. Oh, you're nervous. I remember when I was. Bye. And then they kind of put you at either ends. Did you know the actor? Do you interact this since? I did.

No, I didn't. I didn't know her, but she's very sweet. Sure. She was very lovely. I'm sure. So did you have did you feel like you had a beat on Kara right from the start like you do you had like a way in? Did you feel in that moment like yeah, I get this. I think so. Yeah, I think so. I remember listening to this is the day by the the. It's hard to say. It's hard to say. On the way back and I was kind of like, fuck, I got that. What have I done? So if you hadn't gotten that what's out from James would this have been? been one that stuck in your crawl, like, oh, this really felt like this was the one.

Yeah, probably. I think that you always have a feeling. You always kind of know if it's you or not, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I think you can kind of gauge a vibe. So the first person that directed you as Kara, Supergirl, was James. Yeah, it was James. Right?

On the set of Superman, obviously. Um, did he have strong thoughts on like directing you or was, were you kind of like self-guided? I can't really remember. I think it was a bit self-guided. guided. Yeah. I think it was a bit like, you're drunk, be more drunk, stumble. It was kind of like that. Yeah. Pretend a dog is licking you. Pretend the dog is licking you. And there was like a four foot 11 actor that these actors that play animals. Of course. And she was pretending to be a dog and barking at me. Yeah, who has the worst job in that situation? Is it you having to pretend a

four 11 person is a dog or the 411 person that thinks they're a dog? Tougher job. It depends on the ego, I think. It can be. you get the one of them. I guess that teaches you, this kind of pulls the curtain back. Acting is so embarrassing. I don't think people realize actually how utterly embarrassing. It is, because you also have to try things, and sometimes it doesn't land. But it's a part of the job is like taking a risk or swinging and you're like,

okay, that didn't work, but let me like try it again. And you have to have trust. The director has to trust you to try things. Yes. Because sometimes you swing and it's a home run. Are you pretty good at giving that trust away? giving that trust away? Does it take a lot to earn your trust on a set? I mean...

I don't know. I think that I'm the type of actor that if I don't believe it, I just like can't do it. Right. Which is probably just I'm stubborn and I'm a bit proud. It could be rid of it's that way. But yeah, I'm someone that like I really have to, I can't fake it. I can't like fake it. Yeah. Ever. On that, so on those first couple, is that just a day or two on set on Superman? Just one day. It's like an afternoon. Crazy. Yeah. working with David, the contrast between those characters.

I mean, I don't know if we're ever gonna see Superman drunk or hungover. It'd be fun to see. I would love to see that. Right? Do we think Superman drinks? Mm-hmm. No. I feel like he'd be polite enough to hold an alcoholic beverage at a point of celebration.

Right. And then he would probably just put it down. I don't think he would know what to do with his hands if he was holding a beer. What is, I'm trying to remember, what does Cara drink in the film? What's her drinking choice? She has a shot anything.

That sequence is actually a lot longer. And I was just kind of grabbing shit and just drinking it. Right. But they cut it because I think they were like, she's too drunk. I mean, it's good to be able to tips. She's getting like harmony. You don't go method. You're not one of those actors.

No, I don't believe in method acting. Right? No. Have you worked with method actors? I don't think so. Okay. Yeah. But it feels like, again, the BS detector in your brain would have trouble kind of

buying into that. Just feels a bit insecure, personally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've had that. Actually, with Olivia Cook, actually, last week here, she was, she's worked with some method actors. And it feels she was saying, we were saying, you can sometimes feel it's a little bit more about them.

It's, it's, it's very, it can be selfish. Yes. But it's also that thing of like, okay, I'm at work. I'm not going to let my own personal kind of opinion towards what they're doing affect the relationship. I have to just accept what is happening. It can't change the way that they're going to approach their process. Right. You know?

Right. But then you bitch you better. that when you get hungry. Like, because we all do with the co-work. Yeah. No matter what job, of course. Yeah, no matter what job. So you're number one on the call sheet on this.

Your Supergirl. That's a big thing. That is a big thing. In a giant movie with a lot of people putting a lot of, you know, money into it, et cetera, a time and effort. I mean, what did that feel like kind of having to be that person? Obviously, Craig is directing the set, but you also have to set the tempo as number one. Is that something you were conscious of?

Not really. Yeah. I think for me, I really love to be a collaborator on set. I love to become really close with the crew and really lean on them from like the ADs to the standby props to the cameraman. Like I really want to feel like this is a team and we're all doing it and we're all pushing this,

you know, we're all moving a mountain every day together. Yeah. So I think that that set a nice precedent and I'm also just like a very open person. I'll just be like, I don't know what I'm doing. Right. What's kind of, you know, I didn't, I just wanted to feel like a person and that this was a team. Yeah.

And I'm not the most important person in the room. Always show up on time. Always be there for other people. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it's the healthier way to do the job. I mean, I've talked to like directors in the similar vein because I think there are two like ways to do it. It's like to pretend you have all the answers or to be open and like invite.

collaborators in and say like I don't know like what you think that's where the best work is made I think having too many yes men is incredibly dangerous in any sort of creative fields and you can kind of see when certain creatives have gotten to a certain standard and it's only yes man and you're like it's not help it's it's a hindrance it's not it's not helping you no it's why some of honestly some of the great filmmakers they just sort of plateau and go down and you're like no one's no And also restriction creates creativity. If you're given access to absolutely everything, you will impact no one and you won't make any creative choices

because you can do anything. But when you're restricted, you will fundamentally become more creative. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so give me the moment you felt coolest on set and dumbest on set. Coolest on set? Coolest on set, the fight sequences, the The boss fight specifically was really cool.

That was like my first, no, that wasn't my first fight sequence while we were shooting. But I had learned that one pretty front to back. Most of that is me. All of it is pretty much me. Yeah. Which felt very badass. And then I was saying this on Fallon, whenever you have to like go into flying from standing. That's amazing.

Yeah. It just never feels not stupid. Or when you're kind of just like dangling in the air and everyone's like, they're like, They're like, Meli, can you hold for tan? We've got to move. And you're just like, kind of like. It's like the dead puppet. It's like it's so painful.

It's so uncomfortable. Yeah. So people might not know this. In the middle of this press store, James has said this. I mean, we know that man of tomorrow was shooting. And you're a part of that. Yeah. What's it been like to be shooting your role in the film in the middle of all of this?

Is it hard to kind of code switch? It really is. Yeah. It's hard to code switch. And it's a different. environment and the environment that we had on Super Real. It's a different story. But all of the cast that I've gotten to work

but have been super open. And really lovely, like Nicholas Halt, David. He's a drama. He love him. Alan, who plays Gary, the Robot was also there. Funny man. He's so funny. Yeah, and Lars, we've had like a few people, yeah.

Brainiac himself. I mean, James. I mean, James has said on the record that you have a big role in the film. Were you surprised, excited when you read the script and saw how much you got to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited to keep to keep doing it. How are Clark and Kara doing?

Is the relationship what we've seen before as it progressed? I'm not going to tell you things. You're like, we're having fun, Josh, but not that much fun. I'm too tired to. No, you're tired, so tired you will say things. Exactly. Yeah. So.

I thought I had you. Nope. Has he given you, has James given you a sense of like even longer term plans of like, no, beyond Man of Tomorrow you have no idea. No. Okay. But you're game. You had fun.

I have to be. You're like contractually Josh, the next 10 years of my life. Basically. Yeah. More happy say confused coming up. The war is over and both sides lost. Kingdoms were reduced to cinders and armies scattered like bones. in the dust. Now the survivors claw to what's left of a broken world, praying the darkness

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You were born in Australia, correct? Yes. Okay. But I'm sounding more British and I fucking hate it. Oh, no. I know. Do you think so? You've clocked that?

I've clocked it. Your friends say that? Do you say, like, what happened to you? Yeah, I don't know why. I think it's because the job is to kind of mimic others. that you kind of subconsciously just start mimicking those around you. Right. When you were growing up, were you watching all of our stupid American TV and films?

Yeah. What were you watching? I was really into Annie. Sure. The original Annie. Classic. Really into Breakfast of Tiffany's. Yeah.

What else was I really into? Ren and Stimpy. Oh, great. Which was kind of great. Yeah. Cat dog. Did you have any posters on the wall? No, my mother wouldn't allow posters on the wall because they were ugly.

I'd peel the paint. Yeah. You don't sound resentful about it at all. No, there's no, I've completely overcome that grudge, yeah. Do posters on the wall now? Like, exercising to your demons? No movie poster at home in London? No movie poster.

No, I've been given, I got given storyboards from the film that I did in Japan that was signed by Takashi Muke that I have hung up. But I haven't been home long enough to kind of like fully get in to the decor. So what do the last few years kind of feel like a little bit of a blur like coming out of House of the Dragon into this like have you had time to kind of assess it feels like between you have. Yeah. And where are you at in terms of like because you know some people like like David was very methodical. Like it seems like he took Superman.

He kind of took a minute before he did another thing. You've kind of been like working a lot. Like was that a conscious thing like I don't want to be defined by one thing. It's important to me to show my range. Alrighty. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah, I really wanted to make really good work and to make things on a smaller scale.

Yeah. What I really loved about my experience with shooting Supergirl, even though it was this massive Ten Pult film is that Craig really fostered such an environment of intimacy and collaboration that it literally felt like we're making an independent film. But then we just were like, oh, I fly. Plus flying. Plus flying, you know. And I really love that.

I really love the community aspect of it and the intimacy that comes with storytelling. And I kind of just wanted to get better as an actor and to diversify as well as an actor. Did some theater a couple years ago. Did some theater. I really want to do more theater. The Crucible is one of my favorite plays of all time. It's pretty great. And that's a great character.

Yeah. What a shitster. Ah, but she's not, though. John Proctor's the VIII. villain. That place said it too. I know, but I'm just saying it day one day, this man is like assaulted this one. This girl girl who's just lost. Both things can be true. Both things can be true, but you have like she's a 16-year-old girl. She doesn't know, she's not, she doesn't know any better. I feel like I'm losing, I'm going to be, I'm going to come across horrible in this argument.

You are. I'm backtracking. You're lost. No. But it's true. No, you're, I hear you. He should have known better. He's the adult. Yeah. He's the adult at the end of the day. Was it a great experience doing that in London? It was so much fun. Yeah. It was so much fun. There was something really cathartic about it and the kind of coming in every day. It felt like working an actual job, which I kind of really, really miss.

Knowing where I'm going to be and what I'm doing, but then the audience changes every night and that by proxy changes you and your performance. And hopefully that feeling of like, hopefully relief at the end of the night. You've gone through the whole thing. The adrenaline's fab. Right.

So growing up were, who were the actors that you were putting up on a pedestal? Were they like Australian actors? Was it like the Kate Blanchett's, the 16 Hemsworths? Like what were you? Who were the ones that you were kind of like saying that could be? Really into Michelle Williams. She's so good. Love Gina Rowland.

Yeah. Kate Blanchette. But yeah, my experience with acting was kind of weird. It's more selfish. I was never like obsessed with actors or with film. Yeah. That's not why I got into it. I got into it to kind of help me comprehend the experience of being a person and deal with that and understand that.

Yeah. But you're saying you went into it with noble reasons of trying to understand humanity as opposed to just being famous and wealthy? Yeah, I know. Yeah. Because I would try and understand myself. Get out. To make it a big, yeah. To get grown Instagram following.

you didn't want to do that? No. Has it worked? Do you feel like you're understanding yourself and humanity a little bit more bit by bit?

Bit by bit. Or the people that I play, I think I kind of need to play them in this weird way. They kind of become a part of you. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great place to like put your emotional dysregulation.

Yeah. It's cheaper than therapy. It's cheaper than, well, you make money. They pay you for this? They pay you. You really, You cracked the code, as I said.

I've cracked the code. We should mention House of the Dragon, which is where most of us Americans at least, or a lot of the world outside of Australia, probably first took note of your work. Was that a big learning curve, like stepping onto that set? Yeah, it was insane. It was my first, like, international job. I was working with such incredible actors on a project of such monumental scale. Yeah.

It was incredibly daunting. daunting. I was living alone for the first time in my life. You know, it was 21. I could barely like time I'd choose. So trying to figure out how to feed myself correctly and how to use a washing machine and like also deal with all of these feelings without having a support network and it was COVID and the weather is different. So it's like how many, it took me so long to figure out layering. This sounds so stupid. But in London, I feel like I've been there for five is I've just figured out the appropriate things to wear depending on the weather. Congrats.

So, thanks. So, yeah, it was a massive learning experience. But being surrounded by, like, you know, Reese Ephens and Patty and Matt Smith. We talked about Matt before. Especially, like, that relationship. Yeah. Fascinating. Fascinating.

To say the least. Interesting. Never take a niece to a brothel. We should, that's just like a rule. Sounds like the start of a really bad joke. We're a really good one. Yeah. But like playing that that relationship with Matt,

what are your memories of kind of like, I don't know, cracking that very unique relationship? Yeah, I mean, Matt just made me feel so comfortable. Yeah. In this way, we had this really lovely relationship. It felt like we were friends. We would all kind of go out after work and get a beer and hang out.

And it felt very human. I think that obviously he was aware of the power imbalance. Sure. And he always tried to make me feel as comfortable as possible. And it was, yeah, it was, I only have positive things to say about it. Damn, I was looking for dirt. When you see, no dirt, no dirt, obviously, we love Matt around here. When you see Emma on the show, I don't know if you follow the show or watch much of it, is that odd for you?

Is that odd for you? I haven't been watching it. Okay. You're busy. I watched the first season and I think that Emma has done such a phenomenal job. I think that they're an impeccable actor. And I'm really excited to see what they do next. Totally.

Yeah. Okay. So let's tease a little bit of what's to come. We tease this because you did spend some time in Japan with an amazing filmmaker, some very notable actors, some notable musicians turned actors, Charlie X-ZX. That's a horror film? It's a horror film. What can we expect from?

We can expect blood and guts. horror and scary things. Yeah, it was really fun. Yeah, it was me, Charlie XEX, Haley, Benting Gates, and then we had a fabulous Japanese cast as well. Yeah. Yeah, it was so much fun. It was just such a different environment because Takashi Mika has had the same crew for 30 years.

So just I've never worked on a set that that relationship is so fostered and so established that like he doesn't even have to say anything. He's also a man in very few words, but he's got like cheeky eyes. Yeah, you can read it with it. You look at his eyes and you're like, you're naughty. You've got some stories. And sometimes the people that say a lot are the ones that have the least to say.

He doesn't need to say anything. Right? He's got to look at you. And what about, I've never met Charlie. I'm fascinated. She's like a big film buff. Yeah. Yeah.

She's cool. Yeah? She's like one of those people that is like genuinely cool, like very grounded, very down to earth. is there for the work, would come in every day with like a bunch of ideas and a bunch of notes. Like she was really there to do the work. And you can just tell that she's someone who is such a professional when it comes to collaboration. Yeah. And like how to navigate that space.

I was like, oh wow, you, yeah. You know how to like move about an environment like that because that's a deal. I'm trying to learn how to do that. You're work in progress. We all are. We all are. It's okay. And you probably get V.I.

VIP seating now to any concerts. I don't know if you're like a music festival person. Do you do the music festivals? I haven't been able to because I've been working in the summer. But there's a want to. It's just not. There's a one. It just hasn't happened.

Okay. Yeah. Are you still working with speaking of Australian great actors? Tony Colette. Is that on the docket potentially? I don't know what's gonna, like every, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's astonishing that anything ever gets made. It takes.

The fact that we see anything ever on screen is like, I don't think people realize how insane it is. I know. Well, I always, yeah, every film is a mirror. every good film is like 10 times a miracle. Exactly, yeah. But I mean, do you have not only of working with actors from Australia, but like, I mean, some filmmakers.

I don't know if you grew up like putting like Baz Luhrman or George Miller or Jennifer Kent in recent years. Like are these people on your radar, people that wouldn't be meaningful to work with? Yeah, definitely. I mean, at the end of the day, I want to have a really long and diverse career. I want to work with as many independent thinkers as possible

within the marketplace. I want people who have a real perspective of the story that they're trying to tell. Because to me, that's precision makes something really interesting. As soon as you try to appeal to everyone, you don't appeal to anyone. A thousand percent. Yeah. So is any actor specifically or filmmaker specifically on the list? Like the next five, 10 years, Josh, if I'm talking to you and I haven't worked with them, I'm a failure. I need to make this happen. Oh my God, you put me on the spot. Now I've like never seen. Yes, is what we're saying. I've never seen a film or an actor before. I've never seen a film, don't even know what an act is. I kind of like to work with, is it Christoph Bugli?

I don't know how to say his last name. He did sick of myself. He did the drama. Sick of myself was one of my favorite films. Okay. It's amazing. It's about like a woman with Manchausen. So not Manchausen by proxy, so it's to herself.

Oh, no. So she like makes herself sick for attention. It's phenomenal. From what are limited conversation that makes sense that you might appreciate. I love people do terrible things. To themselves. No, but there's just like such an honesty. There's such an exposure to the uncomfortable reality of human emotions

and the uncomfortable kind of way that we want to be perceived. I think films about perception are really interesting. The substance is really interesting. You know what I mean? You need to do, I mean, going back to early on our conversation, if you really don't want to like see yourself, Andy Circus step aside. You need to do performance capture.

Yeah. You need to like transform into like a goat or a box or something. No, but that's still too silly. Oh yeah, you would feel pretty. I feel too silly. I do think, I want to do more theater. Come here in New York, do it here. I'd love to.

Just got to find the right. Musical, play? No. No, not an aspiration? No. Do you sing at all? No. Can barely act.

Please. I'm a one-trick pony. Okay. Yeah. Okay, we end with this. Happy Second Feus Profoundly Random Questions, Millie. And this is the last few minutes of your press store. So really make it count.

My heart rate just went up. I'm so excited. Dogs or cats. Cats. I've heard this. I know. You've betrayed poor crypto. I don't fucking like people who are like,

your dog or a cat person. I'm like, guys, there's enough division in the world. Wow. Can we just agree that people are allowed to like what they like? I didn't say they have to. You're screaming at me now. No, but this is a thing because I've been asked this a lot. Have you?

Yeah. They're like, but how could you not? I'm like, why do you care what people like? I'll have you know I asked this prior to this whole press store. It's not super-go-related. I'm not special. It's nice to be reminded. It's not true.

Thank you. I'm not. None of us are. Oh, my God. What do you collect? Memories. I would hope so. What do I collect?

This is so lame, but like vintage bags. I have so many passes. Great. It's my, it's my obsession. Okay. Such a wanky obsession. Such a like a new money thing. I hate it, but I love it.

Do you have a favorite video game of all time? Animal Crossing, because it's so cute. Just not the dogs, obviously. No, I'm not, no, that's my point is that there's no opinion. You're allowed to like dogs. I don't like people who do that. Who do the, you don't like dogs that don't like you. I didn't say that.

I feel like you're projecting a lot of baggage from this press store on me now. Maybe, I'm sorry. No, it's okay. We were having a good time the first 34 minutes and then it collapsed. I know. It's my fault. No, it's not your fault. The Dakota Johnson Memorial question, she asked me this.

I ask everybody, would you rather have a mouth full of bees or one B in your butt? One B in my butt. Yeah. What's the wallpaper on your phone? It's a photo booth of me and my partner that we took in Paris. Very nice. Who's the last actor you were mistaken for? That ever happened?

Someone, people don't even know who I am. So I'm not really getting mistaken for anybody else. One lady on the carpet. No? No? Do people don't even know who I am? That's not true. It is true.

Like a name tag it says like I'm Supergirl. Absolutely not. What's the worst note of director has ever given you? Louder. That's it. You don't like that one? I don't like it. There's no way to go with that.

Right. But I get it. I like really ambiguous ones. I don't like a result-based direction. Like so like angry, happy, louder, quieter. Right. You don't want that. You want more of obtuse kind of.

You want an action. You want something that's active. Yes. So resentment, fair. Like you want like something that. Let me do the job. I'll figure out how to get there. I'll figure out how to get there.

Because I can't fake it. Right. Because I'm not really an actor. So if someone says louder. Right. I'm not a robot. You don't tune me up. I get a bit pissy because I'm.

Yeah. Annoying. No, you're not. Finally, in the spirit of happy, second fuse, an actor who always makes you happy. See them on screen. Oh, I'm in a better mood, yay. Probably Ryan Goldsling.

Yes. I mean, he's just got this thing. Yeah. But wait, I feel like I heard you say, is Blue Valentine one of your films? Blue Valentine is one of my films. I mean, that's amazing. But Lost in the Real Girl, it was Craig's film.

That's right. He's so good in that. I love that movie. Yeah. That's a really good, like, of humanity, I think, in that film. Like how it's very surprising. He's the best version of, like, movie star using his powers for gait, right?

Yeah, he's who you kind of want to be. Yeah. Movie that makes you sad. I watched Our Planet and just cried. The David had a really climate change documentary. Yeah, that's real. That's real. I was so fond.

Like, can I be 20 years old while this is happening? Yeah, you made it too real, Millie. Yeah. So that's true. Yeah. And finally, as a foodie, what's a food that makes you confused? You don't get it. That's such a good question.

Well, I'm not to think about this. Like a ingredient? It can be anything. It can be anything. For instance, some people, speaking of, like, you know, Japan sushi, like urchins come up a lot. People like, ugh, just can't do that. I know. Mine's like, have you ever had, like, the little worms in Spanish food?

Do you know what I'm talking about? The tiny, tiny fish, they're like tiny little squiggly fish. You guys are looking at me like I'm crazy. No, no, no, no, I believe you. I had on like potatoes bravas. I don't know what it is, but they're like tiny little, like tiny little squeakly fish. No, I have a better one. You know when you get like scales on fish, but they move?

You know, because they're still alive or something? Yeah. That confuses me, but I will eat it. But it just confuses me about how they do it. Or like how octopuses are alive when you cook them. That sounds. of thumb, I want my food to be actually dead before I ate it. It just seems mean that that's how we go to do it.

Yeah, it's mean enough that we're killing them, let alone that we have to. We're going to kill them alive? I wouldn't like that. That's how you're going to go. Oh God, let's touch wood on that. We're ending on our planet, the end of humanity and squiggly worms. What an end to a press tour, Millie. Hey, you did it.

I did it. You did the movie. More importantly, you did the press. store. See, that's the most important bit. Most important. Five stars. Go back into your cave, hibernate. Yeah. And I'll see you on the next one. I'll see you probably sooner than I would want to I'm sorry. It's not your job. You're not the bad guy. Thank you for saying that because I thought I was for a minute here. It's not, hey, let's let's live and let let's forgive and forget. There it is. If he's going to say live and let die. So that's that's a lyric. I can't afford the

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