Happy Sad Confused - Nick Nolte, Daisy Ridley

Episode Date: October 26, 2016

There’s something for everyone on this week’s “Happy Sad Confused” with Josh Horowitz. Want to catch up with the young woman who burst out of nowhere in “Star Wars: The Force Awakens”? Daisy Ridley joins Josh to explain why she signed up to narrate and executive produce the inspiring new documentary, “The Eagle Huntress” (out November 2nd). Plus Josh of course grills Daisy for some Episode VIII news, how she feels about Rey being called a “Mary Sue”, and why she left Instagram. Maybe you like a more grizzled world-weary actor? Have we got the guy for you! Nick Nolte joins Josh to talk about a helluva life, from his infamous mugshot, how it felt to be People Magazine’s Sexiest Man alive, to how he got roped into an epic prank involving Sean Penn and Woody Harrelson. Nolte is a consummate storyteller, not to mention one of our finest actors. Make sure to check him out in his return to television in the Epix series, “Graves”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey guys, and welcome to happy, sad, confused. I'm Josh Horowitz this week on the show, Daisy Ridley on Star Wars, Eagle Hunting, and why she left social media, and a man who's lived fast and hard and rough, just like me, Mr. Nick Nolte. But first, hey, Sammy, my partner in crime. You know what it just sounded like?

What's that? That the next Star Wars movie is going to be called Star Wars. Eagle hunting. How awesome would that thing? No. To clarify, we'll get to that in a second. But first, we should mention, yes, it's a pack show with two awesome guests. Amazing guests.

And they're really, yeah, I'm about to talk effusively about both of them. But first, we should mention this is our spooky Halloween edition of the shows that our last episode before Halloween. Is that why you look like a zombie? No, it's just age. Oh, got it, got it. Big Halloween plans for you? I decided about an hour ago. I think I'm going to have a party.

Will you come? No I'm invited What if I tell everyone It's your part It's in honor of you Yeah, it's the memorial Josh Horowitz's a zombie party

Oh my God, oh my God I tell everyone that it's your memorial And then you show up Well, okay So what are it going to be the aspects Of the party? Are you going to have tasty dessert treats? No, I emailed a dive bar

And asked if I can reserve space for free Amazing And they said yes. Done. So I'm getting my David S. Pumpkins blazer ready. Are you really going to do that? Hell, yes. That's going to be very popular.

Well, don't. Should I not? No, no. No, no. Here's what I would say is cheesy. I would say Ken Bone, cheesy. David S. Pumpkins. Like, if you know, you know.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I approve. It's all good. Do you want to be one of my skeletons? No, I'm good. Thank you, though.

Okay, you're welcome. So speaking of Halloween, They're also going to probably be a lot of Rays, as in Ray from Star Wars, The Force Awakens out this Halloween season. And that is our guest later on in the show, Daisy Ridley. They'll probably be a lot of the first guest, too. Nick Nolte's, oh, my God. If you go as Nick Nolte, you have my utmost respect. Oh, my God.

That's an amazing costume. But to tease a little bit about what you're going to hear a little later on with Daisy, she has a new movie called The Eagle Huntress, which is a documentary that she has narrated, and she's the executive producer of. And it's a really sweet story that is about a 13th generation eagle hunter in Mongolia, basically. This 13-year-old girl who's the first in her family to kind of break the tradition and be a woman that's pursuing this pastime of her families. So it's a very empowering tale. It's a very sweet story.

The family's delightful. It's beautiful cinematography. And it's a really fun conversation with Daisy about, as I said, we talk about Star Wars, of course. horse and a little bit about episode eight and a little bit about, you know, she left Instagram a couple months ago, much to many people's chagrin. And we talk a little bit about why that was. So really great catching up with Daisy Ridley. And that's coming up a little later in the show. But first, let's talk about Nick Nolte because Nick Nolty. So Nick Nolte, yeah, the voice you're going to hear, oh my God, he is, he has lived a life. This guy is 75 years old and he's lived

like three lifetimes already he um yeah he's packed on a lot of mileage uh onto his life he's still going he's going great so he's starring in a new show called graves that's on epics it's on sunday nights you guys should check it out he plays an ex-president and um you know he's kind of been it all in his career he's been a tv star he started out as like a big tv star and rich man poor man this huge mini series of the time uh he became a movie star thanks to 48 hours and you know the prince of tides and a ton of other things he was people's sexiest man a lot I mean, he's kind of done it all, not to mention, you know, and he's very forked right about it. He's been married, I think, at least five times.

He's had drug and alcohol issues. We talk about that infamous mugshot that you might remember from years ago. Classic. Classic mugshot that he says was not actually a mugshot. We talk about that. We talk about his performance in the underrated Hulk movie, for my money. His performance in that movie is mesmerizing. We talk, I'm serious.

I know you are. I really believe that. We also talk about a movie that you guys might not have heard of that I'll just mention for context, a movie called All Do Anything, which is fascinating. So it's a James L. Brooks movie.

The guy did, you know, in terms of interment and broadcast news, and it starred in Nick Nolte and Albert Brooks, actually, and it was intended to be a musical with, I believe, like, songs by like Prince, if I'm not mistaken. And they shot it as a musical. And then in test audiences basically,

hated it, and they removed all the songs. So the movie exists now as just like a straight, like comedic drama, like a dromedy with no songs. Yeah. So that, for reference, that's what we talk about sort of the saga of that film, which is just always fascinated me. Who knew he could sing? Yeah.

We talk about that too. And one other thing for context, because Nick is one of these guys that is, you know, he kind of rambles, but it's so fascinating. Thanks both to like that idiosyncratic voice that has like just so much gravitas. to it. And he's just kind of a kook. He's kind of crazy in a great way. So one of the tangents towards the end is, if you don't catch the gist of it and listening to the interview, I'll mention it now. It's about during the making of the film The Thin Red Line, this Terrence Malick movie that starred him and everybody under the sun, a prank that went awry involving Sean Penn

and Woody Harrelson. So when he talks about Sean and Woody, that's who he's talking about during that amazing story that closes out this conversation. I say it in the podcast, and I mean it. I would have Nick Nolte on every week of this podcast if I could. He has so many stories, probably 70% of them are actually true, but that doesn't matter to me. He's kind of the best. I really, I fell in love with Nick Nolte. I was already a huge fan of his work, but he's kind of just a crazy storyteller. And I'm so happy he came by for this conversation. So without any further ado. Let's do it. Let's do you ready, Sammy? I'm ready. Have I given a good preamble? Yes. I'm so excited. Here's the crazy awesome.

Nick Nolte, starring in Graves on Epics. Check it out and check out this conversation. The next voice you're about to hear, ladies gentlemen, is one you will not mistake for anyone else's. It's the one and only, Mr. Nick Nolte. Thank you for being here, sir. Oh, thank you for having me. It's a true pleasure. I'm a what level of gushing do you want from a scale of one to ten how much no you can gush all you want you know I like that applause is good you know yay is great okay okay okay good to know anything I can get from the audience I'm kind of a hog you know a true actor a consummate actor that's that's what acting is not like a politician who's trying to serve the people you know do you see many I mean the show we're talking about of course you

is Graves, a new show for epics in which you play an ex-president. I'm sure you're getting this kind of question a lot, but it does beg the question in what you just said. Do you see many connections between politicians and actors? I mean, the politicians we see nowadays, we kind of expect them to be camera trained. We expect them to be polished. Yeah, Ronald Reagan taught that, you know, the great communicator. And he was a B-picture movie actor.

Don't discredit bedtime for Bonzo, special stuff. I didn't see it, but I heard Bonzo was great. But he made them all aware that they've got to at least become camera-aware, at least look directly into the camera and talk to it. And we see that happening through the years, and Reagan was mainly responsible for that. But between the actor and the politician, the politician has spoken.

to be to set himself aside and serve the people, a larger purpose. The actor brings himself in more and gets pleasure from the audience applauding, you know. I'm not saying one is more egotistical than the other, but it's a different kind of service in a different kind of function. Certainly the actor can't be a politician because he's not going to think past the play, you know, where the politician has to go into all aspects of human life. Well, we hope so, you know.

Do you feel in your own path as an actor, like, is a little self-involvement, a little vanity, a good thing for an actor? Is that something that behooves you that kind of can help you? Or it would be more helpful for you or any actor to be a little more selfless, you think? It works all those ways.

I mean, you know, you'll have your humbling moments in front of the audience when you really mess up. And you'll have those great moments where the audience is really in your palm of your hand and you're moving with the audience as a motion back and forth as it sways. and so I used to spit on the stage curtain, the fourth wall, you know, because, you know, there were a thousand people out there, so I would do that. And so when I first started doing film, I would not spit on the lens, but I'd give the lens a real nasty look.

This cinema photographer was whipping his bulldog around, And, you know, he'd bitten down on the chain. And so he was swinging her way around. And he said, I don't know why you hate that camera so much. He sure loves you. Man, that just broke through right away. And I said, why am I spitting at the camera, you know? It was kind of this thing to get, you know, the inhibitions out of your way, you know.

Like, you know, the curtain opened in here's going to be 500 people. 1,000 people, well, the actor goes to a process of, you know, getting lost in the parts, you know. And as you get older, you get lost easier because you're more senile. It benefits. It's all better. There you go. A better. There you know, a better than you've ever been.

Do you feel like you know more and it just comes more naturally? You have more tricks in the toolbox or whatever? Yeah, emotionally, you know, and flow-wise. I'm better. But physically, I'm not as good as I was. So there's a give and a take. I can't do certain kind of moves. I can't do certain kinds of things.

But I know where to go. Whereas when you see an actor's struggle, you know, he's not sure where he's... That indecisiveness. It's not known. And that's part of being human, too. Absolutely. We have those moments every day. But you don't want to make that the whole performance, you know. Otherwise, it might be grating for an audience to watch someone that, like, does he, can he get out of the room? Does he know where to go? Yeah, see, Woody Allen. He makes a way to pay of that, you know.

But we only need one Woody Allen. Yeah, that's absolutely right. So your background before you even got into, and this is kind of full circle for you, you've been doing some TV in recent years, but obviously Richman, was sort of where you made your name in the initial part of your career. After some time in theater, a bunch of repertory theater, correct? Yeah, I worked theater from about 20 until I was 34. That's when Inge brought me from Phoenix to L.A. In a little one-act play of Bill Inge is called The Last Pad.

And we had mounted it in Phoenix. In fact, our director had been a child prodigy Quaker, a very prominent Quaker family that always challenged the Supreme Court on laws of liberty, you know, curfew laws and things like this. Well, this fellow had stabbed his mother-in-law 47 times when he was like 17 at the University of Chicago. And the reason he didn't... I think that's against the Quaker book, right? I'm pretty sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. He told me he didn't know why he had his knife in his hand. He thought it was his wife in the bed. And it took him a long time to cross the floor. He came up to the fire escape. And he stabbed her 47 times. He didn't kill her because he stabbed her in the same spot. Oh, sure. 47 times. That's sweet of him. Yeah. So he was in the Illinois Penitentiary.

and he read this William Minge play this one act called The Last Pat, and he got out because, you know, he didn't kill her, and he really wasn't a murderer, I don't think. This is where I feel like it should be noted that according to my research over the years, you have been accused of making up some tales during interviews. Oh, absolutely. So I just want to put that out there. I'm not accusing you now. No, no, no. No, if I say my wife was in a high wire act in the circus. That's when the red lights to go all? Yeah, yeah.

No, that's a true story. It's true story. And he called me to help him put this play together. Sally Goldwater financed, and we put it on Phoenix. And Bill then saw it. And Bill was very despondent about Broadway. And so Zarath and Miller in a way. Because Miller and Inge had trouble getting their plays on Broadway.

We're at Tennessee Williams, you know. He was a darling, you know. So he brought it to LA and it just went out of the sight. And that led to Rich Man, Poor Man? That's that play in particular. Well, that's what started. That play ran for a year. You know, I had a trick I used to do.

I would take a can of vegetable soup. I learned to do this. This is true. Okay. I learned to do this as a kid to get out of school. I could swallow half the can and hold it in my upper stomach and walk around for maybe 10 minutes

and then throw it out and that's where I'd start that play and the audience was only 10 feet away. Right. I'm going to wait for you to end the podcast in that way. I see blood on the table. My parents found the can, you know, under the bed so they knew what I was out to. But that's...

It was a very strong play. So in the wake of both, that experience and the miniseries, which obviously was huge. As you said, you were 34, you were a man. You had, you'd lived a life already. Were you, were you like itching to get into film and TV in your early 30s? We were like, where are my opportunities? Like, no, it wasn't.

No, no, no. We thought if you were a movie actor, you were terrible. Tab Hunter and, you know, beach party bingo. We weren't thinking. It was, of course, we were lying when the opportunity came and we were there. I mean, I remember I auditioned with Peter on rich man, poor man. We had screen tests, and I knew we nailed it. So I said to Peter, I'll see you when we start shooting.

He said, well, you don't know if we had it. I said, yes, I do. I said, I'll see you when we start shooting. You don't know. I say, yes, I do. And Peter had just graduated from Northwestern, and it was 24. But I knew we had that role. I just knew it.

And between that and, I mean, arguably, I guess it was probably North Dallas 40 and 48 hours that really cemented you as a film star. There was also, this is kind of like those things you find on IMDB that have been talked about over the years. Like, it was said that you were up for things like Hans Solo and Superman. Was that true? Do you have memories of going up for those kind of roles? Yeah, well, Hans Solo, our Star Wars. Lumpy, Dreyfus, was playing the role of Lucas, and he was sitting behind the desk.

And Lucas was sitting in a chair with a couple other producers over here. And you have to know that, or otherwise we were very confused by this whole thing that Dreyfus was holding this audition. Yeah. And that was that situation. And then... Would you've made a good Han Solo? Did you have a good take on the character?

No, no, no, no, I didn't. No, I wasn't. Harrison Ford was a good tonsoe. Pretty good. Yeah, he's a guy created. Superman is a schizophrenic. There's no question about it. Yeah, there are a lot of issues to that guy.

Yeah, so that's what I told the studio, and I said, yeah, I'll play Superman as a schizophrenia. You know, he's got this mental problem. It's not bad. You know, he can handle it. He's got extra sensory perceptions that he can use to not freak out too much when he switches. Sure. This take makes total sense to me. I thought maybe they'd get a kick out of it, but they didn't have any part of it.

A flesh reward, yeah. Oh, well. So I got criticized for turning down Fort Apache for a million dollars. How dare you name Noli turned down a million dollars? I had never thought about it I had always thought about the material Fort Apache they sent me that script It was 300 pages long

I didn't even know where Fort Apache was To be honest It didn't know it was New York borough You know so Paul Newman did it You know The producer was very upset That I turned it down

You know Once fame came Did it screw it with your head a little bit I mean it's tough for anybody to handle A little bit. How so? What did it manifest that it was? Okay, you know, I've been doing theater for quite a while.

You'd get some recognition, but not this constant thing. And when you get the constant thing, then you don't know where to hide. You know, all of a sudden you don't have any place to hide. Drug dens are good. That's a good hiding place. Not too many paparazzi go there. Prison is always wonderful. The sheriff will always say, you have a lot of fun in here, Nick.

Were you of the camp that your vices were fueling your artistic powers? Oh, no, no, no, no, drinking or whatever could help me or no. No, no. If I was that, I'd be dead by now. That whole kind of attitude. Well, there's a few, I won't name them, but there's some great actors that, keep finding new theories of acting. And one of the greatest and the latest that I had, Josh, we made a film with Josh, Greg Shapiro, and I, and I cast William Hurd and this other actor and I said, now these two guys are, they'll have a difficult day.

One will have a new theory on acting. You have to listen to it. And the other one gets depressed one day. and he'll say, I suck in this film, and you suck in this film, and this film sucks, everything sucks, and you'll think, oh, my God, we're not going to make it, but it only lasts for a day. The next day he's forgotten all about it. But the other actor was Michael Marniarty, and Michael had a new theory acting, and it was to be drunk all the time. So I said, don't react, Josh. Just listen, you know, doesn't mean he's going to be drunk.

It's a theory. But Michael's a brilliant actor, brilliant. Totally, absolutely. One might argue that, you know, once you, you know, you're this leading man, you look part of the leading man, you know, you fit that role, that in some ways that did fit you, and you could accomplish that and you did accomplish that in many films, but it almost wasn't the right fit for you, that you almost have too much character and inner life and something special. that doesn't necessarily suit kind of the straight arrow leading man. So you feel that at the time? Yeah, because I had a very unconventional mother. I had a mother that was liberated before there was liberation.

She thought the women's live movement was a funky club. She said, you've got to join a club to be a woman. You're really an idiot. It's really easy to get around a man's world. She worked all her life. and she, like she would say, you know, you don't have to go to school if you don't want to. You know, school is taught by teachers that don't know how to live real life. So that's why they're teaching, you know.

There are a lot of professors in my family, and, you know, she had a rebellion against them. And she was just liberated that way. For instance, she said both Nancy and I, she said, you kids are not going to know a color barrier. We will live with the black or would they all live with us? And they did from when we were kids up. Mainly they lived with us because they didn't have any place there is to move into. But her assistant was a black lady, you know. And did your parents, your mother have much respect for what you were doing?

see the merit in it? Do they see... My mother saw the acting. In fact, at the very last, when the Inge play was going to L.A., I had to make a decision to go or not. And I was in this... I had a desert

house with these castor beans that had grown around it like big trees, and I knew a nurse, and I would feed them human blood. But it was really good nutrition. You know, look it up, guys.

And this is before there was blood diseases that we have today. You know, so she said to me, she said, now you're going to go this way, meaning are you going to sit in these couches and smoke joints and watch time pass? And I said, I don't know. You know, of course I was going to go over. I just was going to play with it for a little while, you know. Because, you know, when you get the invitation, that's when you go to L.A. invitation or you can go to New York

New York accepts young people LA is disaster for young people it's just not it's not really a town is it? Yeah I grew up here in the city and I feel it's not conducive to my personality it feels a little one I mean that's the cliche but there's something to the cliche

right you can tell me yeah my sister she came here east and she was six-foot-tall, best athlete. I think she would have been an Olympic swimmer. Had she not there been those

kind of prejudices at that time. And so she came back east and then she worked at Lord and Taylor. She was a buyer, Lord and Taylor. And then she was ahead of the Red Cross and Jersey. Wow. She used to get mad at me because of Sarandon and her husband

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Would you make a good politician? Would you make a good president? No, I'd be a terrible politician. The hours would kill me. Practicalities, yeah, that's true. I really don't have much to spread around anymore, even though I'm spreading fast, you know. That's what age does. You know, my sister is real good at this, but she's retired.

She lives on a farm outside here. I'm just You know, I got to get my wife to run for Senate And then take care of my My daughter's baby By a Mexican drug dealer So I should be in baby poop And Senate problems

Wait, did you just get married very recently, did I hear? No, no, no, no That was according to something Okay No, I've been married many times I think meant the most recent, but sure. Way too many. What would you recommend the good number of marriages for a human being to be?

I think you need at least five. That's the sweet spot. Yeah, to hit it right. Let's not go crazy. Seven is absurd or whatever. Yeah, sure it is. But two is just warming up. Uncle Cole, he had eight wives.

You know, he raised Jack Mills. That's a guy that can get a mule and a horse to get together. You see you're very jealous. You keep me on my toes, sir. This is good. This is the best kind of interview. I love it. I love it.

So, okay, let me take you in the time capsule back. It's 1992. You get a phone call from Team Nulte. Nick, I've got great news. You're the sexiest man alive, according to People magazine. What was your reaction? Well, first, they made me get out of Bible and swear I wouldn't treat it lightly. I said, okay.

It's a great honor, yeah. They said, you're the sexiest man alive. I said, oh, you got it wrong, Walter Concrete, sexiest man, life. I said, no, you've got to. But you've got to treat it with respect. So I did. I did it as best I could. You wore the mantle well with dignity and grace.

No way. I was the sexiest man in the life, just like that guy that drinks that beer, you know, missing guy, whatever. Right. Well, let me jump ahead because I want to mention a couple films that I'm fascinated. One is, and this might necessarily be the first one that comes to mind for people, but I have a fascination with All Do Anything, the James L. Brooks film, because we've never seen the true version of that film. It existed somewhere in a vault.

It does exist. It does exist. I've been offered to see it, but I haven't done it. Mark Cannon has it. But the time I got to spend with Twyla and the time we worked on music and the time it would dance, it was we spent three or four months so to clarify for the audience this was like a conceived as a musical

it was a full on musical it was a full on musical but the story was was very complete in itself the story of a father and daughter and he's an actor and so he's got this daughter and so we had Chenane O'Connor

that would send us music in a brown paper sack you know and Prince would be a purple sack. A lot of sacks. A lot of to recalls sacks.

Yeah, yeah. And Jim tried everything. He would start the music out and then the actor would start in and then the end of the scene will come. The music would be taken over again by the artist. And we tried it with the actor singing artist's version. Did you know it wasn't working? Did it feel off or?

You know, I don't think anybody knew. it wasn't working because what Twyla did was the first thing she did she said put your hands on my hips and you put your hands on her hips and then she videotaped everything and then she would move for

two days you just would follow her around you know then she'd reverse it and put her hands in your hips and then you'd move and you're forced to move you know and then she would film it's idiot proof choreography it's brilliant that's right she would find out always you're natural

moves, then she would combine that into choreography and those who had moves. So that worked real well. I made sense, but, you know, my voice never got past the gravel, you know. I could combine any clear pitch, you know. So, you know, what happened was unfortunate. L.A. Times got, saw, talk to some people saw a screener. And they said, we're going to review it off of this screener. And Jim said, you can't do that.

You know, I'm still experimenting. And he had to make a deal with LA Times to sit in on the editing or otherwise they were going to. Oh, wow. You know, so they really, that's the ultimate irony, because if you will remember that film, it's a film about, like, the test screening process. And your film was scuttled by a test screenings. That's exactly right. That's insane. Films have that weird.

thing, you know. It's like Tropic Thunder. There's a line in there. It's the most expensive comedy ever made, our action picture. Well, it was. Most expensive. All the money was worth it. I love that one as well. Maybe not

anyone's favorite necessarily, but for this next film, rather, is how many of the stories around I Love Trouble should I believe? There's a lot of, there's a lot of war around that that not everyone didn't necessarily get along in the best way, which happens. It's fine. It's whatever.

We had a husband-wife directing team that didn't seem to agree on things, and they asked me to mediate. And Julia wasn't in the mood to mediate. It's not part of my contract. Like an idiot, I picked up their task. She had a perfect right to do what she did. She got upset with it. She was right, you know. They should have gone and talk.

to her if they wanted to talk to her, you know. Is friction with a director or a co-star and your experience ever necessarily, can that help a process? He can help. It can cause a lot of dissension, too. It didn't cause dissension. It caused me to go into my trailer and said, what the hell did I just do? You know, I had to think about it.

And I think she was anticipating some kind of battle, but I wasn't upset with her. her and all. You know, I think she was right. It was, you know, that team split up and then Nancy Myers does her own film. Doing quite well by yourself, yeah. For my money, one of my favorite performances in a quote-unquote comic book movie is your performance in Hulk. I think you're exceptional in that film. And truly, I can't take my eyes off of that performance. It's mesmerizing. That last part is really a large Shakespearean kind of. Yeah. the thing. And when I did that, I wanted it to start, you know, because here we've got all this animation. So I wanted to start at the highest level I could possibly start. And it took me maybe

three hours to get the first words out. And Ang was very, very patient. After two hours, he came up and he said, do you think it's time to get a line on it? Just gently. Maybe we could start rolling in an hour and a half. I said, I'm just about there. And what were you doing to get to that level? What do you do? I had so much energy

turning that the energy was faster and bigger than the words could possibly be. Gotcha. So I had to find the level that it could be big. And then of course that would, next day we would shoot his stuff. And that

would inform him what he had to deal with in the father. But in the end, the effects were bigger than anything anyway. There's some good performances underneath all that stuff in there. It's worth checking out again. Now, we've had a good time. I don't want to upset you. But during the shoot, that was when this infamous mugshot came out.

Did that affect your career in any way? It became a thing all in of itself, I feel like. I don't think it did. It, I told him how to, you know, don't. don't take the first offer, you know, and they'll probably start about $25,000, try to get $50. Well, for the shot you mean. Yeah, yeah, for the shot. And I said, and share it with the other sheriffs.

And he listened and played like he didn't understand. But it's the outside of a hospital. Yeah, it's not a mugshot at all. Oh, really? It's not. No, no. It's just personal camera. Is that true?

Yeah. Yeah. And this guy just made $25, $50,000 off of it? You can see the line where it's a wall. You can see it. And mug shots you're up again. Sure, sure. So were you thinking at the time, oh, God, this is going to get out, and here we go.

I'm going to have to deal with this kind of crap. No, no, no, no. Because, no, I had been drinking GHB for four years. It was time to get off it, you know. And I was on the wrong side of the road. And it was on the wrong side of the road. Right. I'm sorry, Mr. Nolte.

He said, I didn't know what you. I said, look, you did the right thing. I was on the wrong side of the road. I could have got people killed. I could have killed somebody. He could have killed me. You know, you did absolutely the right thing. Don't worry about it.

Do you feel you're in a good kind of like mental headspace now where you're at right now? Do you feel free of vices relatively? And, I mean, we all have our vices to different degrees. Obviously, you never kick everything. But do you feel settled? Do you feel comfortable with who you are? I don't know of any more drugs to try. Certainly, I've had enough wives.

So you knocked it off the list, you know. Yeah, there's not much, you know, not much works anymore. So that's age. I'm kind of excited about dying. You know, I wonder if you just slip or do you try to hang on. You had a big birthday. I don't want to mention the number. Does it bother you?

Do numbers bother you? No. I mean, you look exceptional, 75, it's great. Yeah, yeah. And clearly the acting hasn't diminished based on graves. You had 75, I roll it up to 80. Skip right ahead. Yeah.

And then when I'm 70, like 83, I'll say, I'm 80. I'm 85, then I'll say I'm 90. Yeah. If I say that, well, he looks amazing. He's, yeah. But it's all, it's all. You know, if you put my ashes in a can, you don't have to be a bucket

because this is titanium this is titanium these are white gold he's the bionic man sitting in front of me absolutely and I know Lee Majors and he doesn't have any of this bionic stuff in fact he's had liposuction

he's all thing he's at I'm a little upset with him I'm not going to go into it It's a weird thing is Lee Majors have come up twice in the podcast in the last week. Really? We just had Bruce Campbell on, and he's on a show with Lee, the Evil Dead show on stars. I didn't even know he was still alive. Apparently, the light was up.

Last time I saw him, we were playing at his country club, and he made a lot of bets. And I had this driver that was 54 inches long, Japanese had made it. It was a psychedelic shaft, and I could nail that sucker, and we won. You know, he had maybe $20,000 in a row, and we were driving away, and I said, well, we did pretty good today. He said, where are we going? He said, I don't go to the Titty Bar. Is any of that mine? He said, oh, no, you don't know how much it costs to get you in the tournament.

Oh, geez, it's so expensive. You know, it was all the crack. I didn't hit a ball in the next day. He lost everything. For my money, you might be the most interesting man on the planet. So to the – here's my question for the most interesting man on the planet. Who is the most interesting person to you? Who's the most interesting actor you've worked with, director?

In the business that we know, I'm just curious. Who is fascinating? Yeah, you know. Because I like, you know, I like Marlon a lot. Did you get to know Marlon a bit? Yeah. John introduced me towards the end, and when he said Marlon wants to have dinner with you, I was with an English friend, and we were riding in.

It was after a thin red line, and then I said, oh, my God, Woody and I pulled that gag on, Sean. He's going to get me back with Marlon. We can't go. We can't go. Matt, we got to turn around and not go, because I thought for sure he was going to pull that. and he didn't Marlon was really sitting there so it was safe enough

but I don't know if you know about that gag it was pretty it's about the best gag in film that's ever been pulled in thin red line maybe I'll tell quick when I got down there

Sean and Woody had been throwing a snake in each other's trailer and all that and Sean had gone to the local radio station and said, Woody will be in the park selling his pictures for $10 a pop and signing them

this Friday or this Saturday. So they were laughing. I was at dinner with Terry Malick and his wife and Woody and his wife and Sean and his wife and they were laughing about all this and I saw Terry wasn't too interested in it.

And Woody asked for my number. I gave my number and soon as soon as I got home, I He called me, and he said, listen, would you set up an appointment with Sean for, let's say, Saturday around 4 o'clock? They have something you have to talk to them about. And I said, are you going to hurt him, what? He said, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know what the gay he is, but we won't hurt him.

Absolutely not. But he'll only believe you because you just came. Anybody else, he's not going to believe. So I did talk to Sean, and I said, you know, I got to talk to you on Saturday if you got any time. He said, yeah, about 4 o'clock, that'd be great. You're going to be the fall guy here. This isn't leading to a good thing. Yeah, so Woody calls me on Saturday about 3 o'clock.

He said, come on down to the police station at Port Douglas, you know. It's just down at the end of the main road in the park. It's that house. And so I went down there, and I met the three policemen, and they looked like Man, Max guy, One of them had his sleeves rolled up, and one was in a uniform. And the other one was in a uniform, too. He said, look, you got no wrecking around the round. They have a warrant for this guy's arrest.

But since you're a foreigner, they've got to find out if you've been drinking at all. So you need to call Sean to reference you. And so he'll come down here. Now, the only thing I don't know when it goes, do I leave the gun in? And I said, well, if you don't leave the gun in, Woody, Sean won't react. And I was like, okay, the gun stays in. And he's, I was trying to get him. Okay, okay.

So, you know, I called Sean, and I said, I'm down here to the police say, I'll be right there. He's four minutes away. He comes down. He comes walking down a long haul. I'm sitting in a picnic bench at the back. They've ripped out the walls, and that was their end office. And this guy is sitting over in a bench here, and the cop starts talking to Sean right away

about what I had done. Nothing. You know, it was that guy, he said he had to take a pee. So he went down the hall, and all of a sudden, all hell broke loose. Boom, bang, crack, boom, bam.

That cop runs down after that, and then there was more, boom, bang, crash. And Sean said, what the fuck's going on? I said, I don't know. And he got up. He said, well, geez, being Sean, he went right towards it. And as he was going down the hall,

I said, oh, it's got to be gunned now, gun now, got it now, boom, boom, boom. Sean came running back into the back door, and it was locked. The cops came in, he hit the floor. I went up in the wall because I was cracking up. And I didn't want to, I can't lay on the floor, he went, ah, ah, you know. I was standing on the wall like this, and Sean went down finally on all four, and this guy was, he was out of his mind I'm getting fuck out of here

you know this is Sean going crazy yeah well no there was the Australian coppola oh the coppos you got it yeah I got to get out of here

you kid you're gonna drive me out of here yeah well there's a key on the desk take a key on the desk so Sean please just don't shoot I'll drive you anywhere you want to go

just don't shoot you okay so you can come on let's get the fuck out of here he gets the key goes to the back door, opens that door, unlocks that door, opens that door, open, there's Woody.

Shot a picture. And we had two cameras down in the corner, and they got the whole thing. On video? There's video of this? Yeah. It should be on the DVD extras for Thin Red Line. Yeah, you know, I was never to repeat this story, but somebody gave a bad... Don't trust Nick Nolte with it, your secrets, people.

That's one takeaway. My other takeaway is... Oh, he's going to leave me in the jungle. I can't think of a worse person to prank than Sean Penn. That's not high on my list. You know, it went kind of like this. He went, uh-huh. And I said to the cops, you guys want to drink? He said, yeah, let's go.

We went to the pub, and we got smashed because, you know, when they thought about it, shooting that gun off of blanks, well, only in Port Douglasson. in Australia. Sure. You know, because of their accents, it took on a sense of reality, you know. I'm just happy you got out alive, Nick, that you made it here today. I don't know if I did have. Repeating that story.

You went through it again? You just felt, I feel like you're sweating. You're now like... Maybe I am sweating. I'm going to have to roll it out and see if you can use this. It might cost me my life. No, it's going to be okay. You're protected.

We'll protect you. You don't know. chance knows a lot of people well I'll let you go to sort that out we're not cutting anything I can't tell you I mean you're welcome here needless to say any time because you have a thousand and one stories

I don't care if they're true or not they're all amazing the show is graves everybody should check it out on epics it's a great piece of work a fun political satire you deliver a hell of a performance as you always do sir

and it's been a real pleasure thanks for stopping by today I had a lot of fun. Very good. That was the amazing. Once again, guys, check out Graves Sunday nights on epics. Now, next up is one of the true, kind of the future of Hollywood, one of the bright lights going on. in cinema right now.

She, of course, made a huge debut. It was her first film. Which is insane. Daisy Ridley starred in Star Wars, The Force Awakens, last year, and everybody fell in love with her and fell in love with that character, Ray. And as I talk about with her in this conversation, she's kind of using her powers for good. This is one of her first projects post-Star Wars in that she lent her name to this really delightful documentary called The Eagle Huntress that is out on November 2nd.

You guys should check it out, whether in theaters or on VOD. et cetera. And, you know, it's really telling that, like, Daisy is lending her star power, as it were, to a project like this that could use, you know, the oomph of a celebrity behind it. So we talk, of course, about the Eagle Huntress, but we also talk about a great many things, including Star Wars and why. There was this weird backlash, at least online, about the character of Ray being a, quote, Mary Sue. Are you familiar with this kind of debate? So I'm not going to be able to be eloquent about it. It's kind of an insipid insane debate. And she kind of like, Nips It in the Bud, which is great, that a Mary Sue is, I guess, I think, a character that can just, like, ostensibly do anything for no reason. Like, it just can solve any problem and doesn't really have, like, the actual... But the name of the movie is The Force Awakens, so... I'm with you. I'm with you. And she speaks eloquently on why she thinks that argument was totally baseless.

And we also talk about, you know, she's very frank about her wrestling with social media. She was very popular on Instagram. She posted some stuff that some, you know, pro-gun folks didn't appreciate. They went after her. She left social media. She talks about sort of like negotiating that line and what that's all about. So she's great. I really, I think she's a fantastic young actor, and I'm really excited to see what she does in

Star Wars and outside of that franchise. I can't believe she tells you who Ray's parents are in this podcast. That's all was revealed. No, no spoilers. It's crazy. Don't ruin this for me and us. No, no spoilers, but just a delightful conversation with Daisy Ridley. Again, Eagle Huntress out on November 2nd.

Check it out and enjoy this conversation with Daisy Ridley. For Star Wars, the Eagle Huntress. Star Wars, the Eagle Huntress coming soon. Daisy, it's good to see you. It's been a while. This is all for a different kind of a cause A very sweet cause This is a great movie, congratulations

Thank you By the way, since I've seen you I was at Skellick Michael And you were not there I went for vacation I was in Ireland for vacation for my birthday And we decided to take a little trip It's beautiful, huh?

It's amazing Was the weather good? It was Ireland, it was Irish Yeah, but it was great But there was no, there was neither you Nor Mark Hamill nor Port-a-Potties There was nothing We were hiding

We had some other stuff to do there We were just trying to solve the words of the galaxy You know I understand I understand You're busy also because not only are you an actor Now you were a esteemed executive producer Esteemed not so sure Well you're an executive producer

I feel like this is a very telling moment For any actor in their career After they've had like the first kind of flush of success What they do with that power in a way Because you know this is this is the first thing You put your name on since Star Wars worse. So give me a sense of coming off of that unique opportunity. What was your agenda in terms of... Well, actually, I also did only yesterday, which was a studio Jibbley film.

Oh, sure. That's right. Yeah. So I guess I'm saying, huh, that's in Asia too. Well, I watched the film and was... The thing is, I didn't set out to be like, oh, this is what I want to do and like, this is what I'm going to do when I'm, you know, in the next year of my life. It just so happened that I was sent this film and it was amazing. And I wanted to be, be part of it and Otto was happy for me to come on board and then I was able to narrate it too so it was like all just a great timing thing

yeah so what struck you the first time I mean do does this happen a lot where like someone wants to put something in front of you just to get your feel? It happens more with books and I'm a big reader so I love that and this is the first time this is the first thing it's happened to with a film

the thing that struck me honestly was a relationship between National Pat and her father because me and my dad is close and our family are very close and um and it's funny people have asked about parallels between ray and her i think i see it more with my life because they're just it's not like a statement that her parents are making like we're going to do this great thing for you that just is how they are right they want their child to do what she wants to do right and they're supportive and encouraging and it's not this big showy thing um so that was a main thing then secondly obviously um the empowerment story of

someone being able to do exactly what they want to do. And again, I think it's not about her winning the competition. She just wants to be part of it and she does that. So she reaches her goal. And then it's just beautiful. It's an incredible place that we don't know much about to see a slice of life of their family life in a very kind of unknown community

so far away from what most of us live is super cool. Well, I think that's also what makes this film special. I think you hit on most of the notes that I was going to as well because, yes, it's like, it's a landscape you probably haven't seen much, if at all, in film, and it's beautifully shot. Yet it is an extremely relatable story. And I think that's, there's a real sweetness to this family and to this young girl who's, what, 13 years old. And, you know, I feel like she doesn't see limits because her father hasn't put limits on her.

So for her, it's like no big thing. She's just doing this thing. In her community it is, but not as a socially impactful way as it will be. um yeah it's just nice did when when you were growing up did you feel any limits placed on you based on solely on your gender at all did you feel that anything was off the table for you which which honestly is why i was surprised at everything that went on with star was because for me like surrounded by brilliant women my mom has always worked um and like and i never heard anything about you know any kind of difficulty she had she may have done right um um and um and i and i never heard anything about

you know any kind of difficulty she had she may have done right um and i was she has some close female friends who i'm very close to so it was never it was honestly never a thing um and then because i wasn't looking at film in that way um and my favorite films like moulan were about women anyway sure so i guess i didn't really see the thing and now i'm like holy moly but more honestly now for diversity like i went to go see a play in london and like every single cast member was white and suddenly you're like so aware i went from being totally unaware to so aware and even 10 15 years ago that would have been the norm exactly and um and i guess it's saying something that now that's not the norm anymore it's like slow progress but i never felt

limits no yeah um not all were you were you struck by i mean as much and and there was like i i feel like the ratio was 99 to 1 in terms of the love that came for ray and for for that character much like in a weird different way, like Ghostbusters had that same thing. I feel like we're like kind of the crazies, kind of came out of the woodwork and assigned this weird, frankly, misogynistic kind of overtone to that, around that film.

Were you aware of that for Ray as well when the people were coming on saying, she's a Mary Sue and all of that? The Mary Sue thing I was just confused by. The thing is, and I think, again, this film is amazing because it's about inclusiveness and about how a community far away,

people just live the same kind of lives. like we don't all hunt eagles but we all sit around as families and we eat together and we drink together and we have conversations and with so much being so divisive at the moment to see something that's just pure and good is nice like the merry soothing i just didn't get because it wasn't true but for the most part when anyone whenever anyone is mean and i'm not saying whenever anyone has genuine criticism about something sure that's fair but yes mean it's irrational and it doesn't make sense because any comments that people had, the Mary Sue thing in itself

is sexist because it's a name of a woman and everyone was saying that Luke had exactly the same thing. I think Ray is incredibly vulnerable and nothing she's doing is for like the greater good. She's just doing what she thinks is the right thing and she doesn't want to do some of it

but she feels like compelling to do it so for me I was just confused and then there were people making comments about John but it was Because then for the most part, the Mary Soothing came afterwards. But people in general were so great about it. But by and large, it feels like, I mean, this is all, there's so much love out there, as I said. And this is going to be the first Halloween post Star Wars.

You're going to see a hell of a lot of rays out there. Not to mention Janurso, I think, is also going to be out there as well. And JJ literally emailed me two days ago. He just met a guy who had a baby called Ray Park. Oh, my God. Oh, no. Yeah. I saw Felicity back in Toronto for her first.

films. Oh my, have you seen a monster calls yet? I cried in the trailer. I haven't seen the film. I've seen it twice. It's just amazing. I think it's my favorite movie of the year.

I'm actually tearing up talking about it because it will wreck you in a great way. It's a beautiful film. But she was saying she was going off to see you like literally that next week. I've heard you guys have connected by now. Was that, I mean, what's the, I mean, not, you don't have to recreate the conversation. I'll be Felicity, you be, Daisy, no. But what was important for you to kind of like. Talk to her about.

Well, firstly, I just wanted to, I went to the rogue one set, and we met very briefly, and we had the same dresser, Callie. And she was like, you two were getting really well. So I wanted to meet her anyway. Sure. In fact, she used my whole same team, my hair and makeup too. I've always, I mean, obviously I didn't tell her this, but I really love her work, like really do. And I remember when I left Theory of Everything, I said to my sister, if I ever make anyone feel like she just made me feel in that film, like I'll be happy. Sure.

And then it was just interesting Because obviously she had She's about to go into the press tour And she's done so much work But she's not done something with the press schedule being that As it Very few have to be fair, yeah And with Asia and everything

So we were just talking about that So it was nice because it was like actually points of reference As opposed to this thing that feels so far away Yeah despite like a young career This is like the one thing you can speak with authority on Like actually I know how to do this But also suddenly it was like You know you get so bogged down with people saying

Oh, it's so, everything's, I mean, so much is so negative in the world and like, and people really freak me out about how life was going to be. And then suddenly I'm like, you know your life's about to change. Exactly. And like, I'm on the, I've started using the tube and stuff again. Like, it's no biggie. Yeah. And it was just nice remembering how amazing of a time I had.

I will say I'm very sad that in recent months, I lost my social media buddy. Sorry. You left. What happened? So it had nothing to do with it. the hate and stuff because there was some again the crazies kind of came out a little bit for you josh i'll tell you the the gun thing for sure had nothing to do okay uh the the reason i took that down was i was like oh my god i'm i really have nothing to do this because in england the gun's not a thing some people

were not very nice and yes that had something to do with it no it's fair i mean yeah um but for the most part i didn't feel good at that time and and it gets to a point sometimes when you're like putting on a thing because you're like I have to post and like I'm seriously like going through my life like I have stuff I'm dealing with I mean nothing huge but we just finished the film it was it was just an odd time and I felt like I didn't really have anything to post about honestly that was it and then I mean it is tricky because god I never thought I get into this to be honest because you think like my whole thing is self love and stuff like that so when people are not nice it kind of seems so odd because i never like put a filter um i know that i have

flaws as everyone does and i've never been shy of hiding them so um yeah but for the most part honestly it's because i had nothing to post and i still don't have anything to post okay so i mean i've literally we'll come back eventually uh yeah i think okay i think we'll see next year okay it's been nice to be off. Apparently the cool kids in school are taking social media breaks where they don't go up for a week. Honestly, someone told me that this morning. Whatever gets you to sleep at night days. Exactly. Okay. So, and where are you at in terms of just, you know, obviously, you know, lending your name and voice to this literally, um, just finished episode eight. You haven't acted in something, you know, your entire body in a while outside of Star Wars. Does that feel weird to you?

Are you itching? Because you've signed on to some things. Yes. Well, I auditioned for me. murder on the Orient Express and it was nice because I was actually talking to Adam about it because I was terrified because we spoke a couple weeks ago and and he was like yeah but you auditioned it's great and I don't know it's weird

like for sure I feel with that cast I'm not worthy but I'm a huge fan of Kenneth Branagh and literally every single person in it. You get to have some interesting relationship with Leslie Odom Jr. A way to get closer to Hamilton. Yes and what's

funny is last time I was here me and Stephanie who's in this room we went to hamilton it's like a weird um circular kind of thing um cyclical uh but yeah brown is the best he's amazing but also it's like so different it's period and right and it's like we're all just in compartments like there's no running away i can't run away from the terror is that the next thing you're going to be acting in yes very exciting and then i have some stuff lined up next year which is super cool so um episode eight which i know you can't say anything about but well tell me Was it a much different experience kind of working with Mark Hamill versus Harrison? They're two very uniquely different human beings.

They're very uniquely different human beings. No one's asked me that. It was very different, yeah. I don't know how, just different energies. They've lived different lives. Yeah, just different people. But it was great. One of the things I've heard through the grapevine,

and I don't think this reveals anything, is that in addition to ray their other significant female characters, Her characters. Kelly Marie Tran. That's what I'm hearing. She's got a very key role in this film. I mean, I think it would have been odd if they did an announcement

with Her Benicio and Laura for her not to be a big part. She's a crucial role and it's really exciting. As Ray changed a lot in the last four seconds, that took place between episode seven and episode eight. In the last four seconds.

There's a big journey, yeah. Between the films? During the film. Okay, I hope so. In the four seconds, she's like, thought, what am I going to have for dinner? Is this guy ever going to take this lightsaber?

I'm literally standing here like a lemon. But within the film, a big journey. Yeah. A lot happens. I would hope. I hope it's not just, I'm sitting like at the top of that mountain. They're like, hey, Luke, how's it been? Tell me.

Fill me in. Fill me in. So it seems like, you know, we've talked about how the importance of a film like this being a positive beam of light in this dark universe we seem to be in right now. As we sit here today, the last debate, he was here in the U.S. last night. Yes. Are you... I ordered some cookies last night to help me get through it.

Did you feel involved in the U.S. political machinations? Do you feel... Yeah, I do. I mean, Brexit was horrendous. And for anyone who lived in London, we were gobsmacked and devastated. So you're here to warn us, it could happen to us. I think honestly, a lot of Americans have said they were so surprised at Brexit happened, that now it was more likely that Trump was going to get in.

I was here for the first debate. I was in Australia for the second. I for sure feel a big part of it. Plus, you know, I'm in America a lot and I love America and I love American people. So it's on my mind. Yeah. Yeah.

Is there, so Murder on the Orient expresses the next role, which sounds like a much different kind of a thing. Is there a kind of a role that's not coming your way that you hope people think of you for? I know that a big moment for you was working with Rwara Strysand recently. Oh my gosh. It was a bucket list moment. Who could even put that on their bucket list?

It's one of those things you can't even imagine that it will be a dream until you do it and then you're like, this is a dream. Yeah, the universe is being really good and coming up with things you never could have imagined for yourself. Exactly.

Like, what else do you have in mind for me, universe? But honestly, I'm very much like, I believe everything happens for a reason and I think, like I auditioned for something just before murder on the Orient Express with the director who I would have loved to work with and I didn't get it. And I was sad, but I'm for sure, like, the timing didn't work.

And I remember my agent, Hilda, who's a boss. She said, you know, the train's going through a stage, it just wasn't your stuff. And I think that timing is a big thing. So as of yet, no, I'm reading incredible books. I have a couple of development things going on. And the stuff I'm able to do next year, like, it's a wide variety. Nice.

So it's very exciting, yeah. Last television or film that you went insane for, anything that you're really obsessed with right now? I mean, Stranger Things. Pretty great. Really want to be friends of Millie Bobby Brown. What did I last see at the cinema? I want you to see Sing Street,

which, funny enough, Lucy Boynton is in Northern Express. Oh my gosh, saw the boss on the plane, almost went myself laughing. So good. She's kind of the best of that kind of thing. She's the best. And Kristen Bell's not bad either.

gorgeous, too. Kristen Bell's great. The little girl in that, brilliant. The whole thing. Also, I thought the stunts were amazing. Right. There are so many stunts people getting thrown down. Her, the bed gag, her best thing ever.

We're ending on happy notes. This is good. Oh, and by the way, what's the key to delivering good voiceover, giving good narration for the aspiring narrator out there? Okay, so I've always wanted to actually narrate something, especially something with such beautiful vistas. So I was going, oh, oh, in Mongolia, it's so great. He was like, rein it in.

I think it's less as more, probably. But also, it depends on what you're doing. it for. Okay. So the vista stuff I was more indulgent. Right. And then the day to day stuff, all it is, as Otto says, it's like a handhold to like eight year olds in the audience who might lose themselves in the subtitles. So it's just a little nudge in the right direction. Do you want to end our podcast signing off for us? Does it practice your narration? Sure. I've not had a rehearsal at this. You're professional. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on

iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley and I definitely wasn't pressure to do this by Josh. This episode of HappySat Confuse was produced by Michael Katano, James T. Green, Mukda Mohan and Kasha Mahalovich for the MTV Podcast Network with additional engineering by Little Everywhere.

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