Happy Sad Confused - Noah Centineo

Episode Date: August 17, 2026

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I auditioned for Timothy Chalemay's role in Interstellar. Stop. And ruined it. I did it so bad. I had, there were some, you know, Manchester by the sea. Lucas had just roll here. Uh huh, uh huh. Uh, butchered it.

What's the opposite of killed it? Butchered it. Butchered it, dude. Carnage. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins. Hey guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy,

Happy Say I Confused. Today on the show, we have Noah Centineo in the house. Of course he hit it big with the Fosters and to all the boys I've loved before, but now he's absolutely killing it with his new film, Union County. He's got the Gundam movie, the John Rambo movie, and the Street Fighter movie, and we cover it all on this episode. Thanks, guys, as always, for checking out Happy Say It Confused. Remember to hit that subscribe button on YouTube, on Spotify, on whatever platform you're using, you know what to do. And remember, if you like what I do, if you want to support Happy Sayad Confused. Check out our Patreon. We do make it worth your while by giving you early access to every single episode and bonus materials, autographed merch, access to our live

events, and so much more, Patreon.com slash happy, sad confused. This is a really fun conversation with Noah. He's a first time guest on the pod. Been circling him for a number of years, thanks to my work at MTV. Of course, we covered to all the boys I've loved before movies, which were so huge and really kind of put him on the map after the fosters, I would say. But this guy's killing it lately. And look at his upcoming slate of movies. You'll see he's really balancing out kind of the indie world with the major blockbusters very, very well.

If you didn't see him, by the way, in warfare last year, put that on your list, an amazing ensemble of actors, many of which have done the podcast, including Kit Connor and Will Polter and now Noah. And this new movie that we talk about today that he was here for, Union County, kind of continues that realm. Like this is an indie film, very small film, him and Will, telling the story of a real community in Ohio facing, you know, the opiate addiction and the cyclical nature of addiction and recovery. And it's done in a very, I don't know, very smart and attentive way to this community and done in a fascinating way. So we talk about that. But we also have a lot of laughs in this conversation because Noah is kind of, while a very serious actor, also an absurd human being.

And I mean that in the possible way. He's just very fun to talk to and has a great sense of humor. And great chat and like some really interesting teasies about the upcoming films, which I'm very, very excited about, including this John Rambo movie, which he is front and center. It's a Rambo prequel, the Street Fighter movie, which looks insane. And this Gundam movie, which I know one's seen anything for, but he just wrapped with Sidney Sweeney. Lots of teases of all that. Some great audition stories, including an interstellar audition that went horribly wrong. That and much, much more on this edition of Happy Sick and Fused.

So without further ado, here is me and the one and only Noah Centeno. Enjoy. Noah Centineo, we're off and running. We're doing it. We're moving. What's happening? We're doing it. The thing is being done.

It's being done. Noah. You're on the podcast for the very first time. Thank you. Keep those feet to cut. You're not swimming. What are you doing? I'm doing the happy feet days.

I'm so happy to have you here, man. Oh, man. Thank you for having. I feel like we've circled each other a little bit over the years, but we've never really had the whole thing. Yeah. It's happening. It's true.

It's true. I think we were talking about it. We met potentially at like an MTV movie. As great friendships begin, that's all always how it happens. When I spoke in old English or whatever. You give a greater word speech. You,

we'll get to that. We'll get to that. First of all, I bring greetings from your bestie, Rachel Zegler. Were you, when were you with? I was just,

I was just texting with her because I know you guys are close. We are very close. And she's the best. She's the best. So where do you guys go back to? Because you haven't worked together as far as I know. No, no, yeah. We've never actually been on camera together, at least not like in like a, I think I went

to a premiere. That's true. There are photos of us together. We never worked together, you know. We met back when I was shooting Black Adam in Atlanta. She was doing Shazam. Yes. And we met at Zach Levi's house.

Yeah. And we just like got along. Like I got what is it? What is the expression like a house on fire? Yeah. And she just became precious to me and it's just she's the sweetest, most talented person that I really know. I mean it's actually insane her ability. I know.

She really is one of the most talented like artists on the planet. Not just her emotional capacity, but like her vocal strength and capacity, her acting ability. like the fact that she can dance and like with what evita i can't wait to see did you see it yet i mean i saw i missed the wand then she's but she'll be here soon i know i'm definitely coming one here yeah so yeah i'm just in awe of her and like love her and support have you ever sung with her not well but you've given it a go has it been a karaoke night has there been a there is a time in Atlanta when i was in Atlanta where i had like a guitar in an amp so i would just sit there and just like noodle around and she would like sing oh god then you're like a

that's not fair. You know, like maybe we, maybe we tried to sing together, but, but no, I'm nowhere near as qualified. What is your musical theater background? What are your chops?

Like, did you do a lot of that growing up? No, no, no, almost none. I went to a performing arts middle school. Right.

When I was 10 and 11, auditioned to get in. It was called Bach, Middle School of the Arts in South Florida. Shout out Bach. and yeah you audition you become a theater major they either let you know they don't they prep you for the high school of the arts called dryfus and prep you really for any other high school of the arts and and they had electives that you could take to be in musical theater and i just didn't take

okay so i literally none pass i did hip-hop dance classes there you go in l-a when i moved there because my agent was like everyone does dance classes. Just for the step up seven that's gonna come around the corner. You never know. You never know. I was 15 and they were like, you have to go to Millennium, and you have to go to movement lifestyle.

You gotta dance with Will the Beast and Kyle Haragami and Ian, God, what was that guy? Is that Ian Westwood or something? Do you still have the skills? Like, when have those been exhibited lately? I mean, in the club, if I'm like throwing it back. Okay. Well, I mean, I can never.

Never. Almost never. Is there an, like, but is there an interest in singing on camera? Like, absolutely. And so it's cool that you asked that. I don't even know how we got here. It's so cool, though. That's like, we're off and running.

It's happening. We're doing the thing, trying to do it. Remember doing the thing? Yeah. I'd love to. I'd love to. I've always said to it over the last decade. I've said, you know, I'd like to do an animated film.

I'm singing or something, cool character. Or, yeah, like, do some sort of Gene Kelly type. You know, figure out if I could dance and sing at the same time. I don't know if I can. You could do it. You could do it. I would do it with Rachel. Rachel, if there's an opportunity for us to do it together, we should do it.

I mean, you can do a lot. We've seen it already on screen. And that segues well into the film that brings you here, which congratulations, man. This is a small film, but like this is like a worthy, worthy subject. And you guys really poured your hearts and souls into this. I'm sure you and Will Polter, Union County is the film. And, you know, all jokes are. side like this is serious subject matter this is like the nature of what you shot here i can only

imagine how special an experience it was um i don't just give me a sense of like where you were at of like how this one comes around and what's the exciting almost diminishes it but what's like tantalizing about this kind of experience for you absolutely i mean uh and forgive me you know will and adam are both adam eakes is the writer director will polter's the star uh of the film they're far more articulate about all of this than I am but I'm gonna I'm gonna try my damn just and best um first and foremost I think independent films are are not only freeing and fun and and kind of get to be more edgy I think they're necessary yeah because they're not beholden to this this need to make profit off of of the subject matter

right? And so when you're making films for sub five million dollars or sub two or sub one even sometimes, you know, you really are just making a piece of art. Hopefully that's going to resonate for a very specific community. And if it then goes wider than that, you know, phenomenal. And so I'm always looking for those things to kind of fuel not just the art, but there's purpose in that and there's fulfillment in that I think not just for me as a producer and actor but for the communities that deserve to be amplified.

Speaking of finding Union County um reading the script that Adam Meeks wrote and watching a short film Union County same title just short um it became very very clear to me that it became clear to me that this is

a director that I want to work with but but the reason is what I think is super important is you find people that are way smarter than you, that know a lot about something that have done a lot of the leg work, all the leg work, and then you just support them. If you like what somebody's trying to say, trying to do, you should just support them. And oftentimes, that's how mountains are moved. So when talking to Adam and seeing his passion, his compassion and his desire to uplift this community, tell this community's stories with them, not just extracting the information and pumping it to the world,

but embedding with the community, gaining their trust and making a movie with the community, I just want to be a part of this. So like, and to give folks some context, like this isn't just lip service. Like I know a little bit of how you made this, but I want to hear a little bit more because when you say like part of the community, like you're acting around with the community. These are real people. Yeah, yes. And this is dealing with the cycle of addiction and recovery and the opiate epidemic.

And again, a real community that's faced these hardships and these people that have faced this life. And I can only imagine for you as an actor, you know, you never want to portray any BS. But like when you're next to the people, it must feel like more than a responsibility just like they're going to see me if I'm at all false. Like I have to be real. 100%. A hundred percent. It's, so Union County is about a court-ordered drug rehabilitation program in Union County, Ohio. And it follows Cody Parsons, who is a young man who has just gotten out of jail that is a qualifier for this court-ordered drug program. The mandate for the program is, stay clean, you get a job and you have a suitable living circumstance.

If you stay clean, keep showing up to your job, go to your meetings, and continue to pay your rent, that they can help sometimes you do. After, I believe, 18 months, you'll graduate out of the program. You won't need to spend your time in jail. You know, it's a way of, it's another option instead of just serving time in jail. Yeah. And it's for drug-related crimes. and so Adam Meeks, our writer and filmmaker, it was so important to him because he was introduced to the former judge that ran this program and to Annette Deo, who is one of the instructors of the program.

She's like a complete angel, and she actually plays herself in the movie. So she's this representative that kind of runs the program and takes all the participants under her. a wing and that keeps them accounted for and keeps them accountable to the mandate of the program. And Adam, besides a handful of us, maybe five of us as actors, everyone else in the movie is in the program. That was the most long-winded way of say. Oh, no, but it's important to give them context for like how it's done. And you go through this experience with your buddy Will, who I want to talk about warfare

at some point too because that's an amazing piece of work. and going through that experience with him and having him by your side of this must be a huge, I don't know, relief. You know, you can rely on him. I know him a bit. He's on the pod. He's like a sweet as they come.

So talk to me about kind of like having him by your side and does that help kind of go through this kind of intense experience? Absolutely. I think so. You know, he, I mean, Will is just such a warm, supportive, highly intelligent, caring, deeply caring individual is an artist that understands the responsibility of stepping into a community and doing right by that community. And of course, we work together.

So we managed to develop quite a close relationship on warfare like many of us did on that film. And we all kind of just gelled. So to be able to kind of walk into something as heavy and like, you know, you know, I guess real as Union County with him certainly alleviated some of the pressure just to know there's someone else in there. Something that I'll say about Union County too, you mentioned it in the question before about the pressures of portraying characters within the community while you know they're around you in the room with you. So we have multiple scenes that are that take place

in the drug court. Right. And I'd like to just kind of highlight how Adam Eakes decided to do that. So court day is Monday for all the participants in the program. When we were shooting those scenes, those court scenes in the movie, we shot on Mondays during their court hearings. So anyone in the program that did not want to be on camera for the film would go in first. They'd have their court hearings and then they would leave. And once they were finished, the rest of us would come in. So everyone else in the courtroom besides Will and I were not actors. they were having their court day. And so we would sit there and we would be experiencing these very real moments.

And then out of nowhere the judge would call her name up, Cody Parsons, Jack Parsons, and it would be our turn and we'd be on camera and we'd be doing the scene. And you're literally surrounded with people that lives are changing moment to moment on that day. And it's on camera. And then you're going up and you're representing them in a way that's going to be put out to the world. So there was this, and in some ways it actually made it a lot easier because the reality is around you, the entire time you're subsumed within it. And then in some ways there was a bit of pressure too, you know, but it was great. More happy say confused coming up.

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But like something like this, like an experience like this, how much of it, you know, you've been acting for a while now? But are you still like proving something to yourself you feel like what you can do as much as you're proving it to others? Like what's more,

whose validation are you kind of like seeking? right now. Is it your own or an external validation you think right now? God. I think I think I find that chasing external validation often leads you nowhere. Yeah. And it's just you become a black hole. It doesn't matter how much affirmation, how much validation you get. You just need more and more if it comes from outside of yourself. That being said, I'm not, you know, immune to seeking that and wanting that. I think that I also there's this thing about vulnerability that I need as an actor that I feel like I'm so afraid of touching and getting close to because it hurts and it's super uncomfortable and frankly it sucks

you know and which is troublesome as an actor right yeah um and so I think there's a huge piece of me that wants to prove like no you can rip yourself open and you can be not to say that union county i you know i do that because that movie wasn't it really wasn't about me at all it really is about amplifying the community sure um and the program showing people that there are solutions and things that work that in existence but for me is the act i think i am trying to prove a lot to myself but i'm still kind of just trying to do the thing where i wake up in the morning and i go i like what I'm doing with my life. Yeah. Yeah, there's purpose in it in some way and I think that's the thing that I'm trying to do. You're doing the thing. Thanks. We talk about the themes of this

film and like addiction and sobriety and relapse and all that and you look you were you've been very frank in talking in the past about your own kind of dealings with that and you kind of went the other way at a very pivotal age where you decided to go sober for a year as you're about to turn 21. It's not the way people usually do it. They usually go. They dive deeper and you took a step back. Yeah, yeah, totally.

But like, and I don't want to put words in your mouth and whatever you're comfortable talking about, obviously. But like you talked about kind of like at that pivotal age, like you were kind of not in a great place and you kind of had to kind of find your bearings. Is that safe to say? 100%. Yeah, yeah.

And I think, you know, I'm so fortunate that, I had the, I do think it's just lucky. I was able to recognize what was happening to me in my life and the patterns of destruction that I just continued to fortify and partake and participate in that I went, I think I'm at a crossroads. I think if I don't figure this out and stop now, it's gonna get way worse.

I believe that I was right, you know, know and and but I also had an overwhelming amount of support and love from a community and my parents and my my sister and and these are things these are in access to resources right that that make it a hell of a lot easier to recognize when things are going wrong so so I come from a very it was difficult for me and it was my experience and and I'm still reckoning with that, you know, with with in my own ways, in my own life, but it also quite privileged way to, you know, that there's a way out that you have the resources to help you on the way that. That I can even identify it. Yeah. And this,

this came like ironically or not so ironically, you know, it's not always tied to other things, but like you were having success. You're on the fosters then like you're kind of like finding like the real like the career you'd sought for so long. Yeah. And then you start. And then did it feel like it was tied to that? Like you didn't, you were too young and didn't have the tools to know, like how to handle success at that time?

Definitely. I mean, I mean, like handling fame and success in its own right is, is kind of a, it's a difficult filter on life to navigate, I suppose.

You know, the people know who you are, you don't know who they are. And people kind of start to idolize or put you on this pedestal. And if you're not careful, you'll believe it. Yep.

You know, especially, being on sets where you have ADs and people that are at your beck and call and I need a coffee. Yeah. So can we get you and they call you sir and yes of course they're so sweet to you and they treat you like royalty and so if you do that as a kid that can really start to yeah, incept this idea you might actually start believing that there's a hierarchy. Yeah. Now that being said I think I before I was on the fosters I was just a valley kid you know it's like auditioning and hanging out with friends and smoking a lot of weed and partying and

partying and and I was really doing hard drugs quite yet. I started to dabble right around the time right after I booked the fosters, but it wasn't really because of anything outside of like I was, I was in a relationship with someone when I was 18. They were a little older and they were doing it, you know, and I was like, oh yeah, that sounds like this is part of the life. This is our lifestyle together. It sounds fun. You're doing it. You're cool. I'm like, I think I love you like, you know. Yeah. And the show gave me a sense of comfort and I thought that I had a buffer because I was making enough money to like support that lifestyle. Yeah. You know, and it's just by the time I turned 21, I woke up one morning and there's a different guy looking outside of my head than the day before.

And that scared me and I think I need to. How are you finding balance now? terms of just like because success is still coming and there are big moments that you want to celebrate and you're at a stage where like now you know there are consequences you know you know what that can lead to 100% I mean right right now man you know the last year and a half has been phenomenal just you know I'm I've been working non-stop you know I was able to do six films three indies and three kind of bigger films in the last year and and a half or so.

And when I'm working, I try to be really, really on the like straight and narrow, you know. There's a huge responsibility on these projects and I take them seriously. My problem is if I have like a couple days or weeks between the projects where I go home and I'm with my family and I'm like, I want to drink, you know, a bottle of wine with my sister and my mom or I want to drink whiskey with my dad and like, you know, that's a that's when I end up like blowing out because I've been so regimented, you know. And you feel you've earned it in a way. Like I just, I was so good for three months. I nailed it. I can, I can fuck around a little bit. I can have a good time. And then like I, you know, I end up hurting myself or I end up, you know, just like, you know, feeling terrible or whatever it is. And I think, I don't know, for me the balance right now is, is, you know, I'm, I'm back on the wagon, proverbial wagon.

And I think I will be for a while. Like I just had an awesome family vacation. And we had a week in Tahoe and it was a blowout. You know, like I was like with my family. And I was like, ah, I think I'm good. I'm good for a couple of years. Yeah, yeah. And like you said, you know, this is, there's a lot happening right now.

And I've worked the last, I mean, 22 years since I started acting. But really, with this new strategy for the last four or five years. and I'm finally at a place where, you know, we'll see if any of it works, but there have been, there's a lot of seeds that are starting to come to harvest over the next few months. Totally, totally.

And look, I've talked to actors that have gone through the ups and downs and to see where you're at right now, like, you know, you never know how these things are going to turn out. You're the best intentions, but you're making good choices and it's really impressive, the breadth of the work. Thank you.

Before we get to all the stuff that's going to, going on. We alluded to a little bit of your background growing up. Like what kind of like pop culture wise what were you like into as a kid? Like were you just genre kid, comic books, video game like give me a little snapshot of young Noah. Um, okay. That's sick. I um, South Florida suburbs. Um, I played soccer. That was my life. Um, I listened to Green Day, uh, switch foot, a little bit of creed. Um, I played soccer. That was my life. Um, I listened to Green Day, uh, switchfoot, a little bit of Creed, YouTube movies were The Matrix and Stepbrothers and radio.

And, you know, I wouldn't say that like I was like, you know, like cultured. Like I didn't know who Pink Floyd or Prince were. You know, I like wasn't into art. Yeah. But I was just into being outside. You know, I was, I wasn't like a. skater kid, but I did have a longboard and I wrote it daily. You know, we'd, we, my summers consisted of taking the long board with my best friend Aaron and skating, you know, all day long, just around

getting subs from like our local grocery store publics getting a pub subs. Shout out. And like, you know, some Arizona iced tea. Dream day. And just like kicking it. We'd go around. There was a lot of sub-developments in construction so we would climb. and like, like Urbax, these construction sites. I'd say that I was kind of, what I was into Pokemon.

I wasn't a gamer, but I was into Pokemon. Okay. That was my game. I loved it. I had the indexes and then encyclopedias. What's the equivalent now? When you're like not in work mode,

what are your side pursuit, side obsessions? I'm such like a generic, now I'm such a generic, like, white guy. Like, I fucking love David Foster Wallace. It's great. I'm reading,

Consider the lobster of the short stories right now, which I haven't picked him up in a while. I'm reading, I like nonfiction a lot. I'm reading this, anyway. Okay. Yeah, like, I guess now, it's interesting to ask.

I'm trying to figure out what my hobbies are. That's a warning sign when you don't have them. don't have them and I think I've talked to some of my friends about this I think that hobbies are slowly being eradicated I don't think I have hobbies either man you know what I'm saying people don't really like I don't have any like I've they're like what are your hobbies sometimes I read yeah sometimes I watch movies yeah and go to dinner I eat a nice meal nice meal with my friends I think it's weird hobbies are and I'm not going to hypothesize or you know put any conjecture out there as to why culture

systemically that's happening, but I'm noticing that I think people whose hobbies are going away. I think it's also, maybe in our worlds at least, it is a sign, hopefully, of satisfaction with the work, how much we get out of our work, that our work is our hobby, hopefully. And that that's kind of a dream for many people, that like the work isn't just work. Work is their life and passion. And that's it for me. And I think it, I think it is for you, hopefully. I think so. I mean, I love that that's what it is for you. I think no how I'm justifying it to myself okay no no I mean it's it's yeah I think I love what I do you know I've I've committed my whole life to it literally since I was eight years old and I

but I I do think that because of that I also like many things I analyze it and I look at it as a pathway in life and I wouldn't change it for anything I recognize how lucky I am to be doing it and the work that it's taken in the luck and the help from other people that it's taken out of the blue to have me be sitting here with you today. But I do look at it and I do question it and I look at the world and I go, I go, is this the most fulfilling thing? You know? And then you do projects like Union County or warfare and you go, yeah, no, this is it. Well, and you've talked about like how much that was kind of a shift in your brain too, like realizing, yes, it's the work, but it's also like, how much you get out of giving back and kind of like putting something out into the world and the universe. And that can come through art.

That can come directly through acting. 100%. There's content. There's entertainment. There's art. And I think art is something that is fulfilling. Yeah. It is a catharsis.

Content and entertainment is phenomenal. People are living their lives and they want to come home and they want to veg the fuck out and they want to laugh and they want to watch Drake, you know, give Birkenbags out on kick. You know what I was saying? Crazy. Yeah. I think that's phenomenal. That stuff is important, you know. But when it comes to, you know, me and what I'm trying to figure out, when do I feel the most fulfilled, which is a luxury to be able to even ask yourself that question.

I just try to figure that out. And maybe it's the fact that I have the time to ask myself that question. Could be just be the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Most of you were just trying to survive, man. Exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. Yeah. Which is also probably why hobbies are going away because people are so, you know, are working so hard. Yeah. Surviving. Yeah. All right.

Let's talk some, some career moments, some career moments. We talked a little bit about, um, Foster's obviously a huge moment. Before that, I've heard you mention, I think somewhere like teen wolf auditions. Was that, was that the closest thing to a big break before the Foster's? Did you think you were going to be Tyler Posey or? Oh, brother. Brother. Brother.

I auditioned for Timothy Shalmay's role in Interstellar. Stop. And ruined it. I did it so bad. I had, there were some, you know, Manchester by the sea.

Lucas had just role, yeah. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Uh, butchered it. What's the opposite of killed it? Butchered it.

Butchered it, dude. Fucking carnage. Like walking out of the room, knowing you like, no, I was like, I was like,

what's this casting director's issue? You know, no, no. Were you in the room with no one? I was a little shit, dude. I went into the room and I was in there. This is Manchester or the Manchester by the C, sorry. I'll tell you the story for Interstellar view. We're here.

Hilar, dumb as hell. Can't wait. So dumb. Sorry, Paps. He probably doesn't even remember. Anyway, Manchester by the C, I go in there and they, they said, uh, you know, in the instructions for the audition, you're married to copy. Right?

It's Kenneth Lagerman. Yeah. So it's like, he's like, you say the words as they're written. This is in an Adam McKay movie. this isn't like this is an anchor man yeah yeah show up and shut up and say the words this is david mammitt like 101 yeah and uh i go in there and i'm like instead of i i said like you're instead of you are you know and cassing so it's uh it's it's you are i was right right weird and like i just didn't i didn't understand what i was auditioning for i

didn't understand the gravity of it i understand like by that at that point of my life dude i was a Valley Kid smoking weed auditioning yeah like there was no craft yeah in it for me you know I didn't I didn't understand the difference between being on Disney Channel and like art you know not not that Disney Channel is not art it can be it can be canceled someone's like I'm how daring what is it the descendant the descendants I love the descendants shout out Sophie Carson So anyway Needless to say I did not get the role because I didn't know the lines Okay well enough

So lesson learned But the interstellar audition was I mean Teen Wolf was hilarious I auditioned for it so many times and many times I was told that like Oh you're the favorite we're highlighting you we think you're amazing and then I just never got selected which is totally a part of the job You're going to audition thousands of times and you don't get it But the interstellar audition was It was at a compound that had a huge concrete wall around it in a big metal gate that slid open when you call you hit the buzzer. And so it's intense. And my boy Aviat Bernstein, who's here in New York,

I got dinner with him last night. I've known him since I was 15. We grew up auditioning together. We lived in like a garage and we're seated together for a while. We're teenagers. And so he's my day one. And so at this time, he's actually the, I smoked weed for the first time with him. So this is my boy. And at first I was like, how could you do that? Don't do that. And then we started anyway. Weed's not good. I don't suggest smoking, especially not today. It's not the same shit that they smoked back when Bob Marley was doing it. You used to have 6% THC now and has like 45% THC. It's not even the same drug.

There's a difference between like taking a sip of beer and then like slamming an entire bottle of vodka. You know, that's the, it's a different thing today, I think. I'm not a doctor. Don't take any of it. Whatever. But at the time, Abiyah and I were blazing that shit every day. You know what I mean?

So, so, but we would wait until after the auditions, but he would come with me in my auditions and I would go with him to his audition. So I said, I got an audition. There's a pool inside the compound of this one. should come with me. No, no, no, no. And he's like, I'm in. This is a great idea. In the history of ideas, this is the greatest idea. For interstellar. If I had only known at the time. So I hit the buzzer and I go, hey, no, it's something. Yeah, come on and the huge gate opens. You know what I mean? I'd walk in and beautiful pool, pristine pool, pool house with the casting

associate in there, little stairs that go up to this cool little shack where you do your self-tape, or you do your audition tape. signed into the thing, you know. And I'm sitting there, and I'm waiting, there's a few other actors that obviously know what they're auditioning for, that are taking it really seriously, and I'm just sitting there goofing off with Aviot. And I go to the casting associate, I go,

I notice you have towels down there. There's like a whole ledge of towels. I say, is that, are we allowed to swim? She goes, well, no one's ever swam before. I said, but I see you have towels. She goes, we do have towels. So I'm like, I'm like, oh yeah, cool, cool, cool, good to know.

Noah, yeah, oh, great. So I go up, I'm like, do the audition, I walk out of there. I'm like, fucking killed it, dude. I earned a lap or two. I'm like, yeah, dude, Nolan's calling me tomorrow. It's happening. And yeah, I earned a lap or two. That's exactly what I felt, it.

I came out, I said, oh yeah, let's go. We got dropped trow, went in our underwear and swam around like fucking idiots. And like, had- And you didn't get it. Weird. I know. One of the kids that was auditioning there became a friend of mine, and he told me he got called next. And he went in there and he fucking was like, this fucking kid who just was in before me totally fucked my process.

He went in that pool. This is his name. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He told me later that that's what happened. Sold you out? Yeah, for good reason. I mean, we were like, California, girls. It's supposed to be working over here.

You know what I mean? My parents put a lot on the line. so that I could have a career and I'd, you know, I'd pay them back. You were there for the pool party, not the Nolan experience. That's ridiculous, dude. So if you were wondering about culture growing up, that's kind of like, okay, you've come a long way. I think so. More happy, say, confused coming up.

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To all the boys, that worked out. That worked out. That worked out. I showed up to the toll of the boys audition in slide socks, basketball shorts, and a shirt or a hoodie. And tomorrow was like, the casting director was like, when you come back, you have to wear clothes, towed shoes. I was like, okay. And I was late and I sent them cupcakes because I was late. I was a mess, dude.

I was a mess. I was a mess and I kept showing up, though. That was what I think was this thing is I just kept showing up. Oh my God. Oh my God. This is therapy today. You feeling better? You feeling good?

I feel great. So I mean, I love here. Look, there's some people that run away from associations with the thing that gets them here. And like, you know, the, the YA of it all. It's like, I've moved beyond it, whatever. And like, in some ways, you are, you're evolving and you're doing different kinds of things. But, like, you go back and you do Exo Kitty and Lana does too. And, like, I think that that really, I'm sure the fans really, really appreciate that.

And this is obviously always going to be a huge moment in your career that you are going to put on pedestal. I mean, just talk to me a little bit about, I don't know why it's important to kind of keep that link with the fans, with the material to go back. Arguably, like, every step you take in your journey, obviously will lead you to where you are, right? So every step is, I think, arguably as important as the last, even if they're a step back or a step to the side or a step forward. But to all the boys I've loved before, without a doubt, is one of these central reasons why I'm able to have an existential crisis if I have one. Or like, I can sit here and talk to you or I have the career that I have. or I can make independent films like Our Hero Baltazar or Union County it's because of what the film to All the Boys gave me

Yeah And so I will always Always throw back to it I'm more than happy when people say you know What's happening to Peter Kivinsky? You know like what or I love you as Peter? Like I'm like thank you yeah thank you you gave me my life today You know so I love it I think it's a important and I love Anna Anna Cathcart like what she does is not easy to be the lead of a show and

her show is successful and she's killing it and so anything I can do to support her it's it's and yeah I don't know it's I cherish it do you think realistically I look it's a long life but like what's your attitude about ever doing that character with Lana again on screen a fourth one yeah or something whatever it is whatever it becomes like oh that'd be so cool okay I would yeah what like I'm too cool to not. Like, I don't know. I think I would, I would love to, but man, you got to be, you got to protect it, right? You got to protect this thing.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've, like, when I think about it sometimes, I'm like, what if I was, when we're in our 40s, we're like, do something, you know? But, but you do the whole before sunrise, sunset kind of thing. Every 10 years, 15, I'd say, different movies. It's a different move. That'd be sick. If Jenny, if Jenna, Jenny Hahn wants to, you know, step in, maybe.

Okay. In more recent years, what, where do you put the Black Adam experience, which, like, such a weird one because, like, the movie does, it did pretty well. Like, it had, like, you know, it did all right. Yeah. Those things have to do really well. And it came out of strange. Obviously, we all know now, like, that period where it kind of was the transition point.

Yeah. Experience versus how it turned out. give me a sense of sort of how you look back at that. I mean, that movie was, to quote an executive that will remain nameless, that movie was just barely crawled over the line of profitable. Right. Which is profitable. Yeah. But like you said, if you're going to invest $250 million or more or less into an IP or franchise, like it's got to make money.

Unless the studio wants to short it and like take the. take the loss for some reason yeah um cancel fuck um i don't know any about that stuff what i do know is uh is that making that movie i learned so much about the importance of having a good culture on set on black adam and it was led by dwayne and it was also led by mo hammer Mo Amher was constantly hosting us for barbecues or hangs at his house or poker and on set we were in his trailer his door was always open anyone could go in there and and and even Pierce Pierce was inviting us to come visit him where he was staying and he would show up to our hangs and um that movie was was really really cool because I got to see Hollywood and entertainment at a massive scale still feel like it was a tight-knit community. Right.

I love that movie and I loved it doing it and, you know, I think, you know, you can put your analysis glasses on to it, you know, and we call it, we all could, you know, sure, any movie, you know, I'll rip the Odyssey apart from that. Let's hear your five-minute round, I was just like, we already have the pool story with no one. do yourself first of all it's not what crossbows look like Josh is like it wasn't a crossbow I said what I said no why did Tom Holland call him dad why he said we have 10 years on this fucking beach yeah you know it's like shut up all that podcast we love Chris Nolan around here

we do the record well clearly I have an issue with him I jumped to the pool for interstellar self-sabot sabotage 101 if I know a centenio dude I am so good at that I will I'm probably not going to work after like two years of this. It's so funny. It's okay. We're producing. We're going to do our own projects. Are you?

Was that the one undone on the superhero front? You must have gone up for other superhero things. Yeah, for a moment there was, was, I guess we can talk about this. It was going to do He-Man. Of course. There was He-Man before Black Adam. And that didn't, that didn't. How do you, so you were attached to that for a while.

Like, that was like at least a year or two. I feel like you were going to be the guy, different directors. We were pretty close, dude. I went through the test process. We screen tested, loincloth and stuff, all of it. Somewhere that footage is out there. I'm sure it is somewhere. I don't know where it is.

Sony has it. Maybe they probably burned it. Somehow, anyway, I signed the contract. But is that a strange thing? You know, you go through all that. You imagine a life. Like, I'm going to do three He-Man movies. Yeah, they're like showing.

us you know pre-vis they're showing us kind of the production design the world building at the the time it was the knee brothers that we're going to do it um shout out knee brothers um and uh and we got pretty close and then for for some for some reason or another it just it uh pushed and then put it and i think they just wanted to keep tweaking it and tweaking it and the contract ran out you know um and we moved on and then i think i think netflix acquired it for a little bit and then amazon acquired and they found Nick and God, dude, Nick. I mean, it's so difficult. It's so difficult to step into a role like that, dude.

I mean, that's not an easy movie to make at all. And, like, I watched it. You did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Nick is incredible. He leaned in. He was good. How else do you do it?

Yeah, you can't. People don't understand how hard it is to do camp wholeheartedly. And, you know, it's like, if the movie works, the movie doesn't work, oftentimes, especially in that situation. I don't blame him for that. 100% I loved what he was doing and what he was trying to do. Nice.

So you got some really cool stuff. So we mentioned warfare. I do want to give some props to that because that is a special one. Folks have not seen that movie. It got attention, but not enough because like that I think that's going to stand the test of time.

And the whole nature of that, again, in a different way than Union County, a very unique experience. Yeah. Those are definitely grouped together. Yeah. And that literal band of brothers

is always going to be there, I think. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like a kit showed me his tattoo. You have a tattoo somewhere of the, you got that. Somewhere on my side. I don't see if I can, should I want to see it? I think I saw too much.

Yeah, check out my. We have it. Mine is here. Okay. I trust you. It's up on my, no. The variety of stuff you have coming up though, okay. We have the Rambo film.

Yeah. We've Gundam. Street Fighter. Yeah. Am I even leaving over the? stuff out that's I mean that's plenty that's more than enough that's insane okay if you indies yeah let's mention in brief I'm very curious about the Rambo film which I'm hearing very good things it's a little ways off but you've shot it it's finished yeah um that's

talk about stepping into big shoes dude needless to say this is a bit of a prequel of the John Rambo story yeah yeah totally um intense shoot Thailand um yeah yeah yeah yeah young Marie uh Helinder, our filmmaker, intense dude. Yeah. Fucking awesome. I love him. He's dark. And he knows what he's doing.

He has exactly what he wants. He's, I think, destined to do a Rambo film. He has been his whole life. I mean, he'll tell you, you know, he's with one of his interviews that he did from his office on Zoom for Sisu I behind him was like the first blood poster. So there it is. Yeah. So what did you want to bring to this?

Like who is the Rambo we find in this film versus who we find in First Blood? What was really important to me and us, it's the last, one of the last scenes in First Blood when Stallone is with Troutman. And he just breaks down. He's talking about he can't hold a job and that he's a war machine. You know, he can fly helicopters, but he can't fucking park cars, you know. And then the trauma of his friends being all over and being, you know, he doesn't have any legs, right? This is the emotional crux of first blood.

And I just looked at that monologue as our Northern Star. Right. That was North Star. That was, for me, it was important that over the course of this movie, the audience viscerally understood. stands the pain that Rambo had gone through to become the monster that he is. Yeah. That we all have come to know and love. Have you talked to Stallone? Is there any involvement of Not directly. No, no, no, not yet. Because I just, I was before the movie, I was in Australia. Okay. During it, we were in Thailand. And then, like, days after we wrapped Rambo, I was in Australia

again for Gundam. And so I haven't even, and then I came home and then, you know, I had a week of the vacation now I'm here you know so but I I fully intend on on hopefully he lives in Florida I believe so I want to go and like spend some time with him and talk to him but a big harbor fan to him glad he's got he's her trial him dude he's so sick yeah he's a legend monster I know he's he's intimidating to work with in the best way yeah he's just like presence you know and and he drives the train he drives the ship he I love I mean I was sitting there, you know, you're acting, it's professional. You're supposed to hold your own with someone, you know, at the same time, you know,

you're watching him. You're like, this is fucking work. I'm watching work, dude. You motherfucker fucking boss, dude. Yeah, it's cool. Let's talk a little street fighter briefly. Because, I mean, that's a big swing of a movie. Like, that's like, I mean, the trailers show, give a sense, like what you guys are going for.

It's a fucking bad shit, isn't it? Yeah. She was crazy. So the hair, the kicks, the jumping. I mean, it's a lot going on there. Yeah, it was a lot. Did it feel like you're out on a limb in the best possible way? I mean, you're with a crazy company of actors.

I don't know if that game means much to you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I grew up playing it. When I was younger, my cousins had the original Street Fighter 2 cabinet arcade game. Sure. So I like locked myself in their basement anytime I was at their house and we just all played it.

Yeah. So yeah, it meant a lot to me, but more than that, I think, you know, the trust that I had in legendary and in Qatow, Sakurai, to just kind of filter our insanity and the insanity of the script and the, you know, the vibrancy of the entire world. It was really, I just went, I can trust you, I'm trusting you. Yeah. I'm going to come to you with a whole bunch of freaking ideas. Make me look good, right? And you just tell me what works and what doesn't work. You know, and I leave that to you.

And I think it helps having 50 cent. You know, part of the fucking movie is Borog. He's a beast. He got into crazy shape for the movie. Oh, because he had let himself go, right? Yeah, he's already like, he's just like, we kept joking. We were like, oh, it's, he kept saying, oh, thank you for being in my movie. Because he was in Australia for a month.

50 cent doesn't stay anywhere for a month there's money on the table right he was like he could be doing this he stayed so he was like thank you for being in my movie that's amazing you know so he he committed right he's dedicated right and he's pushing it and like like cody roads and and and uh and and roman you know or joe rains you know it's like two top biggest wrestlers on you know on the planet both in the movie both committed both there for like a month longer you know um it's just j Eric Andre being an absolute fucking lunatic on his other mode i mean come off that's well it's actually interesting see we're i think we're all starting to see like a little bit more of this like this like um pensive eric eric Andre yeah hypercritical uh you know

analyst yeah side of eric Andre and i think that's so cool he says like you know i've seen some of his interviews and he's like where he goes ah just it's boring if somebody's like like fucking it's boring he's brilliant though like it's like jazz when watching him work on set in the same way that you would watch maybe like a three-piece band just play jazz like off the cuff improvising that's him dude like he knows his lines and he knows them exactly as they are but he's just switching letters and words and all of it and it just comes out and all you can all you really should do is just figure out how to show you shoot him and let him go right and then Keitel goes afterward and they've had plenty of year together

i mean plenty of experience together keow wrote and directed the eric andrews show for many years so that's they know each other have you seen the finished film yet or is it what the trailer promises bananas it's so bad it's fucking nuts i'll say this um um that's i'm not gonna troll the fucking movie you imagine i just did i don't know that should i keep doing it Yeah, double down. Skip. Go right to Gundam. The public sister's over there being like,

what are you going to say? No, no, no. Look, in the same way that we spoke that anyone can put their critic glasses on and rip anything to shreds, because everything deserves, I think, in some way to get ripped apart and put back together. This movie is so fucking fun and big, and you can tell that we had a hell of a time making it,

and people will have a hell of a time watching it. And that's what matters. This is a big spectacle, 10-pole, high-octane action film. Yeah, and knows what it is. He knows what it is. It comes from a rich source material.

And if you're a fan of the game, I believe you're going to recognize the hundreds of Easter eggs and one-liners and signature moves and all the little intricate details that Ketal and we, every single actor researched and worked to make sure that we just crammed,

book-ended it with these little Easter eggs. Fans are going to like it. And the reason I say that and I believe that is because when I watch the film, the final product of the film, right before they almost finished it, I was shooting Gundam and they sent a link. I sent what's called like a digital key link of the script, of the movie. And we went into this little theater on the studio lot that we were filming on. And a lot of the crew that were working on Gundam also worked. on Street Fighter, which was really, really sick.

So we got some of the crew to come, and we sat there, and there was this dude. And I don't like, God, I didn't get his name. I don't remember his name, but he was security. And his whole job, he was hired by Paramount, was to make sure that he, like, put the digital key in. We watched the movie, and when the movie finishes, he erases the key. Right. So that you can't, you know, distribute it.

So we watch the movie. We go out into the lobby. We're all talking about it. he goes up he deletes the key I don't know that's happening I'm just talking to someone next thing I know this fucking huge dude became a five-year-old and like tackled me into a wall and he was like that was so fucking dope like he was so amped it's your first focus group right there and he is the focus group right it was like he grew up breathing this game yeah and he was over the over the moon. Now, listen, we're all in the room. Maybe he was being kind, maybe he was being sweet.

You never know. Excuse me. Good side. He picked up on a lot of the stuff and was over the moon about it. And to be honest, that's why we made a movie. Yeah. We made a movie for him and anyone that's a fan of the game. And so a fan of the game comes to us and goes, you did it. Thank you for doing it. Is what he said? Mission accomplished. All right. Last one I do need to hit before I let you go. Is this Gundam movie, which talk about rich history. I don't know Gundam. I'm just I'm not going to pretend. Okay.

But I know there's a lot there. Yeah, yeah. What the hell is this going to be? Like, I have no idea. Brother. Are you like original characters? Are you part of the Gundam legacy? Oh, these are good questions.

I don't know what I can say and how much trouble I'll get in. I love it. It's the gun, this Gundom is Sydney, Sweeney and a thumb. What? And a thumb. What's the thumb? I'm the thumb. Have you, people call me a thumb.

Oh, I see. Sorry. I'm sorry. This, but it's a. But it's a. Rom-com between her and this guy. It's, look, there's romance in it. It's a big action, romance, space movie.

And it lives in the Universal Century canon of Gundam, for those who know. I don't know how much I can tell you about what characters are in it, if they are, if they're not. But I will say that you can compare it to a little bit of like, you know, a non-Shakeshics Shakespeare and Romeo and Juliet in space. Okay. That's what you're going for. That's what that's so far the aim. Okay.

But listen, we just wrapped it a week and a half ago. And who knows? Sydney's a force. I'm always impressed by Sydney. She's a smart lady. Yo, she's brilliant. Yeah. Yeah.

She's, she's, she's, she's, Sydney and I actually grew up auditioning together. Oh, really? Are like, you know, we both. Same circles. She was in Toluca and, and we had similar, circles of friends and we knew of each other and and like had just had these memories of like being in passing and so being able to go back to work and be like dude how have you been euphoria you know

she just had such a comet like career you know well she can say the same to you so you know that was those reference points now she's she's phenomenal i want to do movies over and over and over and over again with her. She's lovely. I think she people love to hate on her on the internet. Yeah. And you know, I can say this like having done a film and spent months and months and months of my life with her now. Yeah. Like they just, they have no idea who she is. Totally. She's great. No, she's always impressed me and my interaction. So easy for something to happen on the internet and for it to get out of hand. And people handle things good and sometimes they handle things terribly, you know, they just don't do it right. And it just adds fuel to the fire

And that's totally fair Now I'm gonna get fucking cancer For saying anything somewhat positive about her I'm sure No, no, no, no. It's gonna be the Nolan pool story That's gonna be the one that takes you down Don't worry.

What's that one? Oh, the Nolan pool story? Yeah, dude. Ah, it's done. It's done. What a way to go out. Nolan, come on, dude. Most important question for you, Noah.

Yeah. Have you met Mr. Mark Ruffalo yet? I've not. We've not shared space yet. We haven't had the pleasure or not yet. But there's an uptick in comparisons. Optic?

Yeah. There was a lot before and now there's like it's off, it's through the roof. It's off the hook. How does that manifest? What do you use like,

is it, are you seeing it on social media in the wild? Like just, yeah, I guess, I guess like, I've seen it in comments

and I, people say it to me. They're like, oh, yeah, by the way, does anyone tell you that you're mine

like them of and I'm like, yeah. You always think, I mean, I get that a lot. I love it, dude.

He's a, yeah, of course. 13 going on 30s my favorite movie I mean inevitably you will have to unfortunately now his son is acting so you have competition you have another I could play his son better dude

I'm telling you that's the way to his heart I'm sure he's going to appreciate that I remember your son at being your son dude I'm better than your son being your son I'm gonna this is this is really just my downfall

no one will ever work with me ever again no it's I remember auditioning for Derek C. and France is I know this much is true. Oh yeah. Um, and I mean, they picked the right actor. That kid is fucking incredible. But, uh, but I just remember, I remember that time and thinking, you know, what a sick project, man. Mark, Mark keeps picking bangers. And we think better than one Mark Ruffalo's, two Mark Ruffalo's. That's what they always say. Yeah, dark when are you gonna play twins? Who me, me, me and me? You mean me and me? You and me? You When am I going to do the Michael B. Jordan?

Exactly. The full sinners. Yeah, but yeah. As said in other interviews, he did play three characters, which is so sick. I don't know. I don't know. Ryan Coogler. We're doing the sequel, baby.

Green lip. Angels. What's the opposite of sinners? Worst, worst idea ever. Nope. Samaritans. Vito. I have that power.

Sorry. It's a franchise. Didn't you hear about it? That's why they tried to fuck him over and then trades because he owns it. Whoa. What? What? We're pulling back the curtain on the on the trade mafia. The trade mafia. Yeah, the whatever that guy's name that owns all the media. Penske. Pensky, yeah. See, Josh knows. People know about this stuff. They just, they just don't like talking about it. We go where others are afraid to go and happy, say, confused. Okay. We end. We end. We end. We end.

Here. Noah, you're ready? Oh, he's doing the happiness with the speed again. That was so good. Yeah. Okay. You got to be excited. I'm ready. Okay. Profoundly random questions. We add in every happy second view this way. You ready? Coffee up. Caffeine up. Okay. Okay. Don't do a spit take. Okay. I wouldn't dare. These are nice mics. Dogs or cats. I have a dog but cats. What the hell? I literally have a dog but cats. I like cats. I like cats. What's wrong with your dog? You ain't your dog? Oh, no, Joseph.

Joseph's great. Joseph Centennano is phenomenal. Oh, he got false name to it. Yeah, yeah. After my grandfather. Nice. What kind of dog? He's a husky, pit bull, German shepherd, and super mutt.

So he's a big mix. He's the best. I got a bit mix. Those are the best. Sweetest. So good. But yeah, I also have, I grew up with cats and I like cats a lot too. What do you collect?

Oh. Oh. What do I collect? I don't know. Oh. Can't know. Cancelable comments. That's what you collected.

Yeah, cancelable opinions. Yeah, anecdotes and comments. What do I collect? I guess I collect books. Okay. I actually do collect books. I mean, I guess technically I collect art. Great.

Slawn. Slawn's my latest purchase. Okay. He just had actually, he had a gallery here in New York. I got a couple of his pieces. He's a beast. Do you have a favorite video game of all time? Age of Empires.

Okay. Educate me. I don't know. Sick. I don't know any of the vernacular to properly describe it to you. But you've sucked a lot of time has been sucked out of you metaphorically and blowing. Metaphorically a lot of time has been sucked. That's for sure.

It's considered like a roller coaster typhoon where you build big amusement parks. So this is you build empires and armies and you have to collect resources and you build like monasteries and then you like it's a big thing. Okay. Would you, this is the Dakota Johnson Memorial collection. She asked me this. Okay, she asked you to ask everyone this. I love it. Would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one be in your butt? Stumped you finally. We did it. Why would she ask everyone? Well, she asked me and it was such a good question. I felt like I had to like further it into the universe. Dakota Johnson freaky darkness. It's a freaky darkness. I don't want anything up my butt, dude. Okay. So you're going to be, you know, a mouth in the mouth. Okay. What if you swallow them and they get throat? Neither is good. That's why it's so good.

Good question. Yeah. She should really have my job. What's the, what's the wallpaper on your phone? It's, it's Chino from deaf tones. Oh, singing. Lovely.

Yeah. Great. Good trick. Oh, boy. Last actor you were mistaken for. Mark, Marl. Always.

I'll live you a wild. I see it. Right? No. That's what I thought. Dude. The invite. I haven't seen me that. Everyone says it's amazing. I think it might be one of my favorite movies of the year. Yeah. That's very good. Worst noted director has ever given you. It was it was Doug Lyman. He's a unique gentleman. And it was the it was probably the best and the worst. Yeah. I loved it. I say worse just because it's hilarious to say. But I really loved it. He came up to me. We were doing an episode of the recruit and And we did this long five-minute interrogation scene

where I'm interrogating Laura Haddock, who's playing Max. And we do the first take. And he comes in, he's like, cut, and he comes in. He's like, then he's fixing little things and this thing. And he looks at me and he just goes, better. I mean, and I looked at him and I went, yeah. And then he left the room and we did it again. And then he came and he said, cut, moving on, that was great.

better. That was better. I love him, dude. I actually had a phenomenal time working with him. Yeah, he's a wild, dude. He pays attention to all these little things that add to the texture, you know? Like every film is just, every day is like one line, right of a tapestry. And he just pays attention to all these little things.

I like it. I love to working with him. And good notes. And finally, in the spirit of happy, said confused, who's an actor who's always makes you happy. You see them on screen

immediately you're in a better mood. Matthew McConaughey, who you had on earlier today. He's a good one. Movie that makes you sad. Her. Oh, nice. Yeah, that's a good one.

And a food that makes you confused. Who the fuck can just say something to that? People have little weird quirks. A food that makes you confused. Yeah, you don't get it. I don't want that. Why don't you eat that? I don't get it.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't get this. See it on the menu. Like, what? What? You beat hamburgers. Oh. Like, uh, yeah, why do that?

Do they do that? Do they make? If they do, they're like, they shouldn't. The whole vegan community. Now I'm, now I'm cancel. Wow. Now you're going against the vegans too. They're not going to like me.

All right. No, we're not saying that. We're just saying something should be meat. Something should like I yeah. I'm trying to help you up. Something should be meat. No, I'm just saying it's something so so so really we're doing this we're doing this. Trying to help you out and get turn it around.

I know turn around and use it as a weapon. Never mind. I'm pulling you down with me. Exactly. Not only the end of nose career but happy second fuse. It's okay. I'm gonna come on and and and we're gonna start a new podcast. What was it called?

What was the beginning? It's gonna be on 4chan and it's. No. It's an only fans network. It's an only fan. That's right. That's right. And instead, we're just going to paint our feet as faces and then our toes as faces and then we're just going to do the whole interview like that.

Definitely the most absurd interview promoting a movie like Union County ever. Let's say that. Damn. I thought this was for more than just that. He was. It is. It's everything. Don't worry.

Oh, God. Okay. We're landing the plane in a good way. Good. Okay. Food confuses you. It's been a wild, strange trip in this conversation, but we're coming full circle to remind folks, yes, a lot of laughs. But early on, we talked about it, and we should mention it again.

Union County is really, really a special piece of work. It is a labor of love, and I'm glad you devoted the time to it with Adam Meeks with Will Polter, shining a light on this community on these issues. It's something to be very proud of. Absolutely. And yeah, I know this is one of those, like, I'm sure like warfare that's going to like stick with you for a long time. Yeah, thanks, dude. Yeah, landing a plan coming back around, speaking of Union County, like, I think oftentimes in the world today, you look at the world and you look at yourself and try to, you kind of, at least for me, I struggled as I get older to, to feel like there are solutions to some of our problems. and Adam Meeks has opened my eyes through this film in a way that I now know, yeah, there are solutions.

And they exist and they're out there and they need to be supported and they need to be amplified. You know, Union County is one example of 4,000 different programs that all span from, you know, child protective services to do. domestic violence to substance abuse and and they're there to support their communities and there are people like Annette that that make these things possible and their government programs and they do work. And so yeah, man, there are solutions out there and I think we all just need to, you know, look a little bit harder for them and support them when we find them. Well, good for you for using your powers for good, man. And I appreciate you and I appreciate you. You contain multitudes, as do why. We have some laughs here, but we

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