Happy Sad Confused - NOBODY WANTS THIS (Kristen Bell, Adam Brody, Justine Lupe, Jackie Tohn, Timothy Simons)

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

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Okay. A little more context, not that you need it for this. You all know nobody wants this. the show that became a phenomenon in its first season on Netflix. It is back in a second season. I've watched it all already. Maybe you have two. Adam Brody, Kristen Bell, Jackie Tone, Justine Loop, Timothy Simons, all joined me on stage

at the 9 Second Street Y alongside some of the creatives behind the scenes. And I had a sense of this about a year or so ago when I did a Q&A for this at a much smaller venue. And I was shocked. I knew the show had a following, but the fans came out. And sure enough, they came out again at 92nd Streetline, a very large venue. You're going to feel the electricity in the room. And it's such a fun bunch. I love this cast. I've done a lot with them. Some of them I go way back with. Some are newer friends. And there's just a fun group to chat with about a fun show, a heartwarming show, a show that people really connect with. So without any friends, do, enjoy the magic of a special night at the 92nd Street Y with the cast and creatives

of nobody wants this. Hi, everybody. How's it going? Oh, look at you beautiful people. Hi, welcome to the 92nd Street Y, guys. You having fun yet? Good. Good.

My name's Josh Horowitz. I host a podcast called Happy, Sad, Confused. You're inside of it right now, whether you knew that or not. You're in my podcast. Welcome. You are also among the first in the world to see the first two episodes of the new season. Nobody Wants this! Did you enjoy? It was only about a year ago that this show kind of came out of nowhere, and now here we are.

Emmy nominations, Golden Globe nominations, Critics Choice Awards, endless memes, hot priest, hot rabbi. I got it wrong. Hot rabbi Halloween costumes. I mean, this show really penetrated the zeitgeist like few shows have. And I'm so excited that we're going to be talking about some new episodes

with these guys. We have a lot of seats to fill tonight, guys. Are you ready for this? Should I introduce them? Okay. Please make them feel welcome. We have with us, executive producer and co-show runner. It's Bruce Eric Kaplan. Come on out, Bruce. Please give a warm welcome to executive

producer and co-show runner. Jenny. Connor is here, Jenny, the creator of the show and executive producer, it's Aaron Foster, of course. Jackie Tone, you know or you love her, Jackie, come on out. That tall drink of water that is, Timothy Simons, make him feel welcome, everybody. Justin Loop, come on out. Come on. We have this guy that goes by the name of Adam Brody. Adam Brody is here.

And she is, of course, Joanne, executive producer. It is the one and only Kristen Bell, everybody. Give it up. Should we start chanting fashion hat? Fashion hat. Fashion hat. You always know Tim's going to be down for the bit. I didn't think anyone would notice.

800 people noticed, Kristen. Welcome, guys. Congratulations. We're hours away as we tape this from the launch of season two. How you feeling? Feeling the energy, feeling the love? We're going for a go for launch. We feel good.

You feel good. Feeling confident? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Too confident. Too confident. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

All right, talk to me a little bit about, okay, let's look back at season one for a second first. When did you guys know this was going to be something a little special? You had the experience of making the show. That's lovely, but you never know. When did you feel like, oh, this is actually hitting in a insane way? I can start. I never know how any project I'm going to do will land,

because I think you can do the best job possible, assemble working alongside great people, and then ultimately it comes down to like the public's temperature, like what kind of a mood earth is in, and if they want to see it. And so you just really never know. But when I started getting calls from the publicity team at Netflix about that they had given the first two screeners

to all the publicists in July, or to all the critics in July, and our show came out in October, and the critics were coming out of, of their skin. They were coming unglued. They were like, well, we need three, four, five, and six, seven, and eight, and ten. We need to see more. And we need to have more interviews with these people. Like, there was like a frantic nature to them beginning to put the press tour together. And I was like, oh, I don't know if I've ever been a part of something that people

were this hungry to get more of. And I guess that was like a decent litmus test. I was like, this show might be really big. I can personally attest of this. My wife is in the audience. So we had the screeners for the first few episodes, and she was like, get on this. This is, get me more, and you have to cover this in a big way. So, yeah, people saw it. But, I mean, you feel the reaction in this. I mean, I've covered a lot of films and TV shows.

Like, I've covered Twilight and Harry Potter. That's what this feels like, that kind of fandom. No, it really does. Like, 30-minute comedies don't necessarily elicit that kind of scream, Aaron. I mean, this must be beyond the dream come true of a creator. I thought you told them to do that or something

when they came when we came out. Very nice. I mean, there's no way to really know. I think everyone of us has worked on something that you think is really good and that you think people are going to love and they really don't. And so it's, you kind of

lose your sort of trust of your own instincts and you're not making something that it's like getting married. You don't think you're going to get divorced. You know, you think it's going to be forever and then all of a sudden it's not. So, um, I mean, I'm, I'm married and I'm saying married, but, um. It's going to be a rough season four. You go into everything thinking this could be it.

And then when it isn't so many times, you just sort of stop thinking about that for myself, Elise. Truly every other time. Like it's not even, I think that's what maybe like the public, like people don't understand. Like I, as I, as I, I'm. absolutely assuming that most things are like either never going to come out or nobody's going to watch it or if it comes out it'll be then it gets canceled it's

like it's it's rough out there but also to give you something specific from season one that was a moment where I felt like there was something very special happening was when Joanne and Noah walked to the car after the dinner party and that was a scene that we had used as an audition for guys for the role of Sorry, Adam, we auditioned to other guys. He is furious. I can see him seething over here. I didn't audition to say that.

Yes, it's true. It's true. He didn't know. Offer only Brody. That's what they call him. But when we saw that scene and the auditions, I started doubting that it was a good scene because it wasn't landing right.

And I kept wondering like, ooh, I think that this scene needs to be cut or needs to be rewritten because it's just not landing. And then it just wasn't the right combination of people. When I watched them doing it that day, it was, a light bulb went off of, this feels special. It's nice. When I was doing that, I was like, this might suck. But then I saw it shortly thereafter, the rough cut. I was like, this is amazing. I like, I mean,

everybody here has had successes in their career. Is there a different look in the eye of a nobody wants this fan that approaches you, Adam, compared to somebody that comes up back in the day that was talking to the O.C. or something else. Rind, growing up, Brady, a lot of hits. A difference? I think the wide-ranging demographic. You know, it's like before, even the O.C., I'd be like, okay, that's an O.C. crowd over there. This, I was in Scotland right after it came out, and some field hockey, Scottish girls came up to me. And then we sat down at a bar right after and some 70-something Scottish people drinking whiskey,

some guy, all men, said the same thing. And I was like, okay. Okay, wow. In Scotland, this works. As Scotland goes, so goes the world. That's the saying, right? Do rabbis resent you or love you? Because you've set the bar unrealistically high for rabbis around the world now. You realize that. I don't know, but I assume it's mostly positive. They're into it. There was a girl who came up to my sister, Sarah, in Miami,

and she's like, I just need to tell you that my dad is a rabbi, and I grew up, kind of like embarrassed that my dad was a rabbi because it wasn't cool. And now he is like, I'm a fucking rabbi. And also, just so you know, there's like at least three rabbis walking around the world thinking this is based on them. And like one of them, you probably go to their synagogue because it's in New York City. What's really funny is I know Big Jew and I know a lot of, really? Yeah, yeah, all right.

I was telling Adam before we came out there's not a lot of people that make me seem Protestant but Josh somehow does You're even Jewier than me Anyway I was just gonna say I was never bar mitzvids so we can end Still I know I can do that for you

Tonight right now I have that authority I think I have that authority It's a Kishkas thing Josh You're still doing anyway I was just going to quickly say that I can't tell you how many Jewish friends in L.A. Are like oh my rabbi consulted on that show And then another person would say and I'd be like, oh, this guy, that the other one, they were like, no, I feel like rabbis

were going around L.A. just saying they consulted on nobody wants this. Dead serious. So is it better to be the unexpected surprise season one or to have the expectations going into season two, Erin? I mean, this is a different experience. The first season, wonderful surprise for the world. Now, people are ready, people are watching. You know they're going to be watching.

I'm very, I'm really excited for season two because you, You know how invested people are and how much people care about these people and the stories. And I feel really, really good about what we were able to accomplish season two. And season one, you have no idea if anyone's watching or if it's going to flop. And it's scary, but it's so great to see how many people are paying attention. So there's a combination of a lot of pressure, you know, but I feel really confident about it paying off for people. So it's almost more exciting this time. It's the matcha or the three ensemble

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season. They've seen the first two episodes. Welcome to the world of nobody wants this guy's. Bruce Jenny talked to me a little bit about the challenge, excitement of taking a hit and making an excellent season two. You know, like growing out the storyline. What are the challenges of approaching season two? I'm going to be completely honest with you. Wasn't that much of a challenge. I know it should be. And I guess in a way it is when

something's a success, you want to equal that success. But what Aaron created, what these guys did in terms of the first season, that's the dream. You want to go on a show where you're like, okay, I know what these characters talk like. I know their points of view. I know who these actors, I know they can do anything. So in that sense, it's like, I mean, honestly, it is a dream. Also, you know, we got to just walk onto a huge hit show, so that doesn't hurt. Like that, that worked out pretty great.

So, and we came to it as super fans, you know, so it was really easy to... But they're making it sound easier than it was. No, no, no. Obviously, we work really hard, but we, and honestly, it was, literally, I've said this to people, in some ways it was the hardest job I've ever had. But because, for a variety of reasons, but it's... What are some of those reasons? You're like, let's make this panel juicy.

Problematic cast members There were a lot of people involved before we showed up and all those people are important to this show and we incorporated their voices and it was sort of you know it was

It's challenging when you're coming in and you're replacing some people and some people are not invited back or some people are asked to be quiet and there's new people here who are sort of going to be charge and they both handled it very well because they're not egocentric people and it's a job that you can really insert your vision but they came onto a show with a creator who had a strong

vision and I was really nervous and they handled it so well because they weren't trying to make my vision their vision they were trying to help support my vision and teach me how to do a better job were you is it helpful or or not to like see how the fans reacted to the season in one and how they reacted to these relationships and what they were saying about what they wanted to see perhaps in the future, or is that kind of where madness lies? You have to kind of follow your own creative instincts. I mean, I will say for Bruce and I, or you can argue with me, but we like to argue. Yeah. We're Nichols and Me. No, but I would say that, you know, we learned on girls to not listen to a lot of the noise, or just read the good reviews. But like,

I mean, for me personally, I really feel, with all my jobs, I work for the show, I work for the characters, I work for the stories. And so that's what I'm focused on, honestly. So let's talk about some of the status of these relationships. Some folks watching this are listening to the podcast, won't have seen the episode, some will. But give us a sense. Okay, how are you guys doing this season at the start of the season? What are the challenges? How are we looking?

Still got the Judaism question Well that's still there? It's still there Maybe we tabled it I felt like we took it off the table That's lingering I guess But as far as like being emotionally connected We're like A sing that

Still in the beginning yeah Very much But I think there's probably a lot of You meet us with a lot of the anticipation Of first timing something Right like our first dinner party The first time I go to Shabbat The first time you decide how much

the closet you can share, all those baby firsts where you have to realize that, oh, this isn't going to be a compromise because we're a we now. Is Erin still a model for the character as much in the second season as in the first season, or do you now have licensed to kind of, is she off on her own, you know, you've created this character. Tell me which one is Aaron again? Third from the left. Third from the left.

Nope. This one? Hand down. In the Burgundy. No, Aaron is, is and will always be Joanne. Her voice is so specific and I definitely feel like I'm trying to keep her as Joanne. I think the way I approach personally any character is that I make it 50% myself and 50% the characteristics I'm trying to play. And it was an incredibly easy job because I had Aaron right in front of me.

So I was able to watch how she walked through the world, how she spoke to people the way she did her hair. I had like a file on my phone of her hairstyles. Yeah, I found that late in the season. It was really creepy. Yeah. But it was also really fun to be creepy. Also, there was like one day where I said to Jenny, I was like, oh my God, I love her outfit right now.

She looks so cute. And I love her hair like that. And she was like, you're such a narcissist. She looks like you. I was like, oh, I do wear my hair like that. But it's like tiny things, right? And there were definitely times in the first season, or even the second. second season where like Aaron would write an interaction and maybe it was a joke and maybe

it wasn't and I couldn't hear it like when I was like trying to memorize it and I'd go up to Aaron and I'd be like wait can you just say just like say this out loud and whispered in my ear just like say it in my ear I need to hear like where your pitches where your tone is what you're influencing and she would thank God and then I'd be like oh that's it okay because her writing is incredibly creative and it doesn't always read on the page it reads in real life it reads when you watch these people interact so she will always be my North Star 800 people Adam

what do you know about Noah in the second season you didn't know about Simon Aaron's husband what do I know about Noah in the second season what have you come to like understand now he's going through the repercussions

of his choice to be with Joanne at work which are ricocheting back home because it created quite a lot of upheaval and then also regardless of that I think they are two different personalities and occasionally

I think he questions her commitment and ability to commit and she questions his and so there's, you know, lingering insecurity but at the same time the guy is also very much in love he's had overheels in love and having a great time. Does Adam have control over his own facial hair if he showed up to set Queen Shaven would he be fired or does he have to talk to you?

Yes, he would be fired. I wasn't aware of it. I said this many times, I would freak the fuck out if he shaved the beard. Like, I love Adam in a beer. I've been very vocal about this to Adam. Why is this so important to you, Tim? What's just, do you like?

Says the guy who dies is there like fucking Eminem without warning anyone. No, let's not. Oh, hi. I'm Marilyn Monroe. Okay. I don't know. I did just show up at a party with it.

That is true. But I don't know. I think, like, Adam, I... Say it to my beard. It's beautiful. You're beautiful. Go ahead. I love it on you.

I have never noticed if Adam had... I literally did her... Dax's podcast with her after the first season. And she's like, you had a beard on this show? That's... It doesn't... I don't know why. I don't see it.

Is it... Do you have it right now? No. No, I don't have it right now. You're fine. Adam over there to your left. But you have a file of her looks. Coming soon, more facial hair, future seasons.

Just keep growing it. Just keep going, man. I would not hate that. I would go full... I'm down. Yeah, yeah, are you? I'm down to go that way, the bare way. The what?

I'm down for more than less, yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's get on. Right, you just go full rabbits? You have a deal. I know my... I have a deal. Great.

It's a twist. He becomes Santa Claus in season five. You never saw it coming. Crazy. Justine, how's Morgan doing, season two, status report. Sorry, just to jump back to the beard real fast. And then I want, you know that it comes from

my neck. I'll never be able to have it fully in my cheeks if that's what you're hoping for. Okay, well, we're going to have to see the shape and then we'll decide. Okay, fine, go ahead. Sorry, Justin. I think that's part of the charm of the beard, though, is because it doesn't come in in the cheeks. And I do want to let Justine talk. I think you have to talk. I'm sorry. I have seven more pages

of beard questions. We can do this if you really want to do this. I'm okay with going there. Did you have a beard in the first season, Justine? What? Did you have a beard in the first season, too? Yeah. She was pregnant. Status report on Morgan.

How's she doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Morgan's struggling, you know. Aw. I think Morgan just surrendered to acknowledging that she's losing some iteration of her soulmate in this romantic relationship. And it leaves her kind of in the dust going, well, where is my life and what am I doing? and where is my guy and how am I? Am I okay?

And this season, I guess, is her way of, like, manically and frantically, like, coping and finding her way through that. We can tease that among the guest stars is Aryan. Yeah. As Dr. Andy. Yeah. Do we ever trust a doctor with a first name

just going by the first name? I feel like that's a real red flag, right, Aaron? I wouldn't trust him. I don't love it. I have the same feeling about Dr. Andy as I have about teachers who make you call them like Mr. Tom or Mr. and then their first name.

Or Miss Cindy or something. I'm like, I don't know, it feels wrong and I feel the same way about the therapist thing. Yeah, all right. Stay tuned. Just watch that guy. Some epic dancing to look forward to from Mr. Timothy Simons, everybody.

Was that in your writer? Did you demand the dancing? Did you guys say you looked at Tim and said, we need to make this man dance this season? How did this happen? I'll let you answer that. He wants to take the blame credits. I will tell you this.

We thought he wasn't going to be great at it. And there was some comedy to me, mine there. And also, but in a great way, like in the way that was like, he's really trying hard. Like, he's making a commitment. And then we were like, Tim's got moves. And it kind of made it even better. I definitely, it did help that the target was guy,

trying really hard and not professional dancer because I felt like that was a target that I could hit. But like anything more than that, I think they would have been like, all right, they're probably fine, like a 6'5 body double and we'll just shoot it really wide. But I think they gave me a target I could hit. I have to say, it's a very sexy dance. And I was with him when he was on set and he had his two teenage 13 year olds there. And they were like obsessed with this video, but they were also repulsed by it. So this was like this really weird like give and take of being like, show me the video. Show me the video. Dude, dad, gross.

I'm running away from the video. It was so cute. In the weeks after, I would just be in my house and seven rings by Ariana Grande would start playing, and I'd be like, I'm being pimped into this dance in my own house with nobody asking. We'd just start playing. Who's the best dancer in real life among the cast?

I don't know. I don't either. I've only seen Tim dance. I've only seen Tim. Mackie, I have a feeling you're a really good dance. You're not a dancer at a wedding, Kristen, you don't get up. I can't. I'll get up and get down, but it's going to be all over the place. Huh. Huh.

How are you? It's Bruce. I bet. There's only one way to find out. Dance off. Here we go, guys. Jackie, would you rather be two feet taller or Tim, two feet shorter? None. Pass. Yeah, none of that. Oh, I have to, have to. I'm horrible at these. Like, would you rather freeze to death or height to death?

Heat, freeze, okay. I, would I rather be two feet, definitely Tim, two feet shorter, because what do I give a shit if he has to walk around life as a four-foot man? But do I want to be a giant woman? No. That was an easy one.

I didn't even realize how easy. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't want to answer it, now you came up with gold. Congratulations to all of us. Tim could be weird, yeah. It's like that question of like,

if you press this button somewhere in the world, one person with I, Jackie's just hammering the button? Like, what do I give a shit? Are you kidding? I have this monkey's paw that you can make a wish on. Yeah, exactly. You asked. You just move right, nothing about the show.

You move on to Jenny. Oh, so short Tim. Eric. Thankfully, Esther has a juicy season. We can say that. You're happy with... Yeah. So do you put your two cents in before season two

or do you just let them surprise you with... No, America did. America spoke, and they said more. Yeah. I think everybody had something to say there. Which, listen, Godblow, of course the Jews had to say something. We're Jews, that's the whole point. I love that all the, like, angry, very opinionated, strong women Jews were like,

we're not like that. That's a stereotype. It's like, I'm being you. Miriam, you're seeing yourself, and it's upsetting you. I loved it. But I think she has a journey season two and it's so fun because I love to play her. I love her so much and I didn't want to be like defensive of her but I just am. I think that she's a real person and she's a fully formed person and she's loyal and she loves

her husband and she's pissed that these people came along and like ruined their family. It was her and her brother-in-law. and her husband and her best friend, Rebecca, and now it's like, this, like, it wasn't great. So it's like, that to me, it made sense to me. And then in season two, I think she's realizing that everybody else was having a good time, and she's sort of a self-imposed stick in the mud.

It's not like anyone's making her sort of be that way, and she's asking herself life's questions, and without spoiling, that's what she's, that's the journey she's on for season two. She's one thing I do love about the right she she's trying to have fun and people keep asking me. They're like, so she's fun this season. I'm like, is she? She'll tell you she is.

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Listen to Broco Therapy wherever you love to listen to podcasts. Therapy is too expensive, but this podcast isn't. What is the most common question, comment that you guys get related to? Nobody wants this in the last one. I think it's like would you want Tim to be two feet shorter or you to be, I think for all of us. I think for all of us we can say. Get the backup moderator here.

Part of the job is looking at the interviews that have come before this one so you don't ask the questions that everybody's asked. Right, sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We're a fucking nightmare up here.

That was my personal favorite question on all these cards, guys. So you are really making me feel this five feet shorter in fact. That's how I feel right now. No, but is there a common, a real question that people ask you or want to say to you about your characters? They want to engage about the dynamics of the characters and just say, your show rocks.

People want to know if Adam is as hot in person as he's on the show. And what do you say? What do you say? I've said yes. And I say without the beard, no. But I also say part of what makes him so hot

is he has some of the similar attributes. He's incredibly kind and he's wise and he's thoughtful. And he's incredibly he's incredibly romantic about his partner, which is sexy as fuck. You know, like that's hot.

She's a lucky girl. Yeah, I don't know. One night, I'll tell you one, this is random, and I don't know, it's probably just anecdote, it is literally an anecdote, but a lot of people have come up to me, a lot of people say they love the show, and a lot of people, I think because of the show is kind of so joyful, a lot of people have said, oh, I was going through a hard moment, and this really was a ray of sunshine for that, and I take it, you've had the same, and that's been very nice and sort of unexpected. Yeah, people saying that it's my feel-good show has meant so much to me, because I'm like, oh, yeah, that's all I want. Like, I want to be a part of projects that bring people joy, and to have it be someone's feel-good show is really special. Was it more, a lot of cool guest stars in this season, we should say, as well. More difficult to get Seth Rogen or Leiden Meester involved in the show, guys.

Who had a tougher negotiation? I wasn't involved in the Seth of it, so I don't know. It was very easy. I've known him since he was 18. I was a writer on Undeclared. And he has... I love that show. started as and continues to be like the menchiest guy in the world and he loved the show

and his wife Lauren loved the show and he said yes in a second and we were really lucky and Adam and Seth were really funny together like I loved it it felt like you were having fun that day meet him and watch him work and just share the share the space late was really hard to get a hold of she's elusive that one yeah yeah I mean is that like a no-brainer to like this will be fun and like, is there that conversation? Yeah, yeah. In fact, early on in the writers and asked, like, would she want to do it? I'm like, yeah, writer something fun.

And then they did and she did. And I think, you know, the time's by all. She is so funny. Yeah, amazing. So funny. Like, we were in the back going, who can we fire so we can make her like one of the leads of the show? This is crazy. You guys are all in the topping block.

Oh, thank God. She doesn't play Jewish. I'm safe. Sorry I'll go I'm really too much tonight Is Dax just seething ready for his part Is he just like, when do I get in on this or what?

No, he like, he does not like acting. This just makes me want him more. That may be like the long game, but he's just like, no, I'm over it. I like podcasting. I like talking to people. And I'm like, okay. I mean, of course I would love, like, and we did have some significant other action this season

because Layton was on and Jackie's boyfriend, Joe Gillette was on. And weirdly, those two played a couple, which was bizarre. And then there, can I say about that there was a, yeah, there was a drawing. That's all I can say. And the Justine's husband, Tyson is an artist and he drew the drawing. So it was like very fun and familial. And Jenny's husband directed the last two episodes. What?

Jenny's husband directed the last two episodes. And Aaron's husband did the soundtrack. Yeah, guys, literally everyone's sleeping with everyone. It's crazy. And we put

Bruce's wife in girls. Right. Well, she can come on our show, too. That's why I'm mentioning it here. Takeaway here is that nepotism is alive and well. You had any doubts. Jacks comes for lunch.

A bunch a lot, but I don't... Free crafty, he wants that, yeah. He wants the free food, but I think he's not... I mean, I believe if I asked him to do it, he would do it. But I know that he loves his job, and I don't want him to do anything that he's not, like, gunning to do. I hesitate to ask this, but I want to ask this. Tell me about the urine prank, Justine. I want to know about...

No, I almost brought that up when you said, what is everyone asking you? In interviews, people keep being like, to just... What is this urine prank? Okay, so the urine prank is... I know that Kristen's obsessed with pranks. Like, between takes, she'll come up to me and show me, like, 16-minute Jimmy Fallon pranks that literally go on forever, and she'll be like, you know, no, no, keep on paying attention.

So she just loves these. She's just about to get good. And she also is obsessed with biohacking. She does peptide. She has a glucose monitor on. She wears a weighted vest in between scenes and does squats, and I'm not exaggerating. That is something that she does.

Gotta get it in? I have videos. So I was like, okay, how can you? we marry these two things together, the biohacking and the prank, and how can we do it in a way that's like pretty far out, but not so far out that she'll like do something entirely disgusting. And we settled on let's convince her that I'm drinking my own pee. And so for two months, basically two months.

And also I want to let you know, Justin keeps using words like we and looking over here. And from the beginning, I was like, am not signing on to this. KB will fucking destroy us. This is a you thing. Yeah. So I did all kinds of things. I was pretty supportive of the endeavor. Yeah, you did. I made fake

AI articles about how it was good for you and that it remineralizes your body. You really look this up? Send it to me. I steeped chamomile tea and I would like tell like the base camp guy to come bring it to me in the middle of set and like I just had to, I would have a phone call with him where I'd be like, hey, Rustin, is there any way that you could bring my thermos,

and I don't know, I should probably tell you there is P in it. Just as an HR protocol, like I should probably let you know there's P in that. And I wasn't, she knew I was eavesdropping, because I'm always eavesdropping. And then she'd get on set, and we weren't even in the same area, but I was like looking over and here's what I'd watch.

And I was like, I just want to make sure you were being seen. She called a doctor on set. I was like, is this who I called? Dr. Mark. Dr. Mark, whatever. I called Dr. Mike. Can't trust him.

You can't trust him. He said, it's not going to kill her, but like she could also just take a multivitamin. But the grand finale of the prank was that I steeped camemial tea at different gradients and put them in a mason jar and then put those ingredients. Yes, a different, you know, peas comes in different colors.

So basically I put them all in a cooler and I brought them to set. On April 4th. And I brought them to her and I said, Kristen, I brought you some of my best pee. And I ate all the good minerals so that it's like the best quality pee

you could ever have. And here you go. And she looked at it And she goes, I don't want this. At this point, my codependency is, I'm jumping out of my skin. And I'm just going like, how do I tell this girl that I love so much that I think this is unsafe? And also, I do not want this year. And I'm not going to take it home.

And I want to tell her to stop doing this, but I don't want to tell her what to do. But I want to make sure she's being safe. Oh, my God, this is so much pressure. And I just said, I don't want this. And then she said April fools, and it was April 1st. And I got to tell you. I have never felt more loved. If I was going to predict the monster on this panel

in for the long con, I was not going to point to Justine, but here we are. But it very much is. We all know. That I'm the monster. A long con. You would do that again before anyone would attempt it once. Yeah.

Yeah. I can only imagine what's cooking for season three. Already you thinking? You know, I'm kind of waiting for Kristen to slap back. Ball's in your court. Wouldn't you like to know? Are you proud of the environment you create

on set that allows for this guys? We like didn't even know what was happening. I feel like we should have written more lines for them. Wait, wait, wait, yes you did. I told you guys. I said you guys, you are going to hear that I'm drinking my own pee and I need you to know that that's not actually happening. At the very end you told this. We were

not on board earlier at all. And it does not demand retaliation for us because we were not hard. Here's the thing is that when somebody tells you, you're going to hear that I'm drinking my own pee and it's not true. The only thing you can think is

that's 100% true. So in your defense, I think it's okay that you put that out of your minds. And what's funny about it is for two months I had to be okay with Dax's thinking that I was drinking my own piss. Of course I immediately went home and told him. I was like, honey, Justin told me she's drinking

her own urine. And I I just, I don't know, is that, I should I be worried about her? I mean, I know she's kind of crunchy, but like, is it safe? And he was like, I don't know, look it up. I mean, it does sound kind of weird, but she did do my astrology chart the day that I met her. And I was like, oh, cool. So I don't know. I just chalked it up to like maybe keeping an eye on her.

And, like, is she going to get sick? And I was watching her very closely, just like a mom does, and she never got sick because it wasn't real urine. What? Okay. I can't get this back on track. It's my own fault. So they've seen the first two.

What's your favorite episode of this season? Nominate one. What can they look forward to? I'm definitely not picking one. They're all like children. I mean, I love them all, so I'm not going to pick a favorite. I love some more than others.

Like my children. What was yours? I don't know. I know. I know it's set up, and I'm not sure. I like the one. I think that's my favorite. I like the Valentine's Day episode.

And Adam reminded me of it during this press. tour and how good it was, because there are so many incremental beats that are so real and form such great friction. And every single person in this audience will have felt one or the other of these sides. If you got the ick the first season. Oh, man. I like the ninth episode. That's very vague, but I like the ninth episode.

Episode nine. The ones that are coming to mind are like one and I think five and nine. And I think, I said this, like, when we were here for, like, the 92nd Street Y thing last year, like, what were we looking forward to? And, like, the thing that I was looking forward to the most was, like, being back on set with the group. And those, I think, have an aspect of everybody being around a table or being at a big party together. And I just always love it. I mean, it's like a great day on set.

Just selfishly, it's a very fun day on set. But I always like it. I always, like, probably a very wonderful comment to all of you. you're very wonderful to work with, and it's really fun when you have a big group of people that can work really well together like that. So those are the ones in my mind. I also love Perum. Yeah, that's going to say, that's a fun one, and these guys don't some iconic costumes, I will say. Did you have any choice on your respective outfits for that one? No. I didn't. Do we want to say? Can we say? Well, it's kind of documented online, so it's not really secretive.

All right. I was Cinderella. I was a vampire. I had, I had fangs in, which I loved, but it is funny because I'm talking with a lisp, the whole episode. As I'm doing, like, dramatic scenes. I was Julia Robertson, pretty woman. I'm, like, a 30-style gangster, like that Tommy gun. And I am a sexy cat. She's fun. I told you, she's fun.

She's into that stuff now. Yeah. Everybody on brand, I feel like, in a way. Also, Lynn is Madonna is chef's kiss. Phenomenal. The, um, living up to the now iconic kiss in the first season, I mean, how do you, you can't like orchestrate that, right? You can't be like, okay, next iconic kiss coming right up. Yes, you can.

Yes, you can. I mean, once you see these guys in season one, you're like, just do that again. Is that the direction? No, but I think there's, the kiss is so special. is so special because it's a first kiss and in real life that first kiss is like takes your breath away but then there are things that that person can do that feel exceptionally romantic and unexpected in that first year of a relationship that isn't no there's no longer is the first kiss but is sort of that first gesture you didn't expect them to make the thing that makes you know i mean you guys

just watched the first episodes so the the bedside table to us was such a unique way to be romantic and sexy and grown up and feel seen. And so, you know, it was on us to find ways for him to show up for her like that romantically. Here's an either or would you rather shoot a falling in love scene or a breakup scene as an actor? What's more generally, artistically rewarding? Falling in love is easier, I think. Maybe just, and I'm solely having not read the scenes. I'm just basing it on the fact that that's happier and I'm more comfortable in happy emotions because they take a little less work to manufacture on camera.

Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think a breakup, you certainly can get a little more heated and might have to dig a little deeper. But yeah, it's fun to kind of tap dance through a falling in love scene, I think, too. Hysterically laughing through a scene or hysterically crying, which would you rather do on set for a day? In the scene?

Like, crying, laughing? Yeah, fake laughing. Fake crying. What's harder? I think freeze to death. Always option C. Tim is two feet shorter. That's always the answer.

You guys have a hell of a soundtrack always for this show. What's the process? I mean, you get major. get major artists. Is it always a yes? Is it always a negotiation? What's the process in kind of finding the right songs for this show? Well, season one, we had great music, but it was all music that was already out in the world. So, you know, you're paying to license the song. And then season two, because of the success of season one, our music supervisors, Aperture Music, thought that it would be a good idea to do a proper soundtrack, which means that the songs are

unreleased and they're only released through the show so you know that's where you would find it online yeah we have a soundtrack season too so then when when aperture thought that would be a good idea um my husband simon has is in the music business and he sort of does that and so we figured it out and made a deal and it was honestly very cool to work together and watch him the guy's obsessed with follow through he's like you know i asked you do that thing and i'm like you got to ask me three times. And we got amazing artists. We have an

original Casey Musgraves, Chris Dapleton, Teddy Swims, Selena Gomez, Toa Bird. I mean, there's really, really amazing artists. Tim, have you not? I mean, that's cool. I didn't

know that, but I'm like, I am personally not cool, so I don't like know a lot of musicians. That's, that's But it is hard to get them, even though the show's successful, because what happens is that they, it means that sometimes they have to take that song off the album that they were working on, or they can't release it when they wanted to release it, and then they can only release it through the show. So there's a lot of, like, fighting for it. Is there a dream guest star next season, the season after that? Who's on the list? Anybody want to nominate someone they've worked with? Jenny had a great idea. It's like on the count of three. We all just going to sing. Adam Sandler. Yeah.

Ooh. We're all manifesting it together right now, okay? Guys, put it into the universe. We're manifesting. I was going to say one, two, three, Barbara, but Adam Sandler got me really excited. Is Golium? Nah. All right.

So Lynn's best friend is named Goldie, and I just always imagine it being Goldie Hawn. So I just love the idea of Goldie Hawn showing up as Lynn's best friend. By the way, she's Jewish. I feel like is she half-Jewish from the Adam Sandler song? Goldie Hans have Jewish. Goldie Hans have to. Yeah, put them together. That's a fine looking Jew.

Yeah. Bar mitzvah or wedding? What do you prefer? Bar mitzvahs are so fun. Yeah, I think it's a mitts for me. Then you don't have to wait for them to take pictures and all that. There's a lot of waiting at weddings. Is there such a thing as a nobody wants to?

themed bar mitzvah or bat mitzvah yet has that existed in the universe and what would that be you mean it's a little old for them what's that you go oh no i don't i did that was the only joke i missed it i missed it yeah yeah yeah yeah it's always funny when you have to say a joke a second time and then justine really just looked away she had no reaction to it she's like should we get lunch Have you guys started to... I mean, are you guys talking to these guys about what you want to see in season three? Or is that, are you in the waiting game right now?

That doesn't need to happen. No? No. I mean, from my perspective, that does not need to happen. I remember going into the writer's room at the beginning of season two, and I felt... And I was like, okay, let's see what we got going on.

And Aaron, the first thing she said to me was, okay, we're going to give the audience what they want. That's what people are here for? We're going to give them what they want. And I was like, I didn't even know I needed to hear that, but it was so refreshing to be like, oh, yeah, because as I referenced before, I love when people have this as their feel-good show.

And she's like, yeah, we're going to do more of that. Okay? That is a good, Erin. I'm not joking, that was very Aaron. That was, like, embodying, like, the neck and the face, didn't you even think? Thank you very much, Jackie. And that comes along with a lot of details, but what that means is there's not going to be an earthquake this season,

and we're not going to break them up every other episode and we're not going to, you know, like, there's not going to be any crazy thing happening. This is going to be a love story about hyper-realistic, intimate moments that anyone could picture themselves in, and it's going to be very real. And I was so happy with the way season two's turned out.

And so I don't feel like they need any advice from me about season three. I'm happy to say whatever they want me to say. But we do like to get feedback. Like, I mean, we do. We, you know, they come in. We talk to them about it. They have ideas, they have questions. That's really nice for us too.

We're a very collaborative team, and it helps us. So when this drops in literally a few hours, who's going to be online and who's going to turn their phones off? Well, it's going to be a three in the morning for us. Yeah, yeah. We're all going to be drunk. In a day. In a day.

Like, who actually wants to engage and who is going to spread away? Yeah. Oh, do you normally, or are you just for the sake this. Because you're, like, not even online. You don't even have social media. I'll read reviews. Yeah, you'll read reviews.

Yeah, yeah. But are you going to, like, watch TikToks and stuff? I don't know how. I mean, I guess I would. You know how. I could figure it out, but the answer is no. The answer is no. Okay. But send me good stuff. Okay. You've never worked on the tick

or the talk, Adam? Neither one. No. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know. For the best. All the best to it. TikTok as a sentient human. Good luck, TikTok. I wish it well. I think what's more important is feeling the ground swell emotion, which is what we felt the second season.

At least that's what I feel like I can collectively plug into you guys and say, like, that feels wildly more important than like reading one person's opinion about it, but like when you see on the street and like you're at the grocery store and people are like, I loved it. And then you're just like, oh my gosh, I'm starting to feel it. It's making people happy. I'm glad they're watching it. I care about your guys' opinion a lot more.

I'm sure you're also going to have people just come up to you with, like, jars of urine, saying, you know, give it a shot. Don't say, me. Just be shots. Shots. Shots. Shots. You're all inside the podcast now, and we end the podcast with a profoundly random questions. You guys ready for this? Here we go. Dogs or cats. We can. Yeah, yeah. You can jump in. Anybody?

Dogs. Dogs. Woof. Yeah. Dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Not a pet person.

I have dogs. But I'm saying cats. One defender of... Underdogs. I see that for you. You all don't need to answer. You can jump in if you feel like it. Does anybody collect anything in the group?

Miniatures. DVDs. All right. Oh my god. Tim. Does anybody love anything as much as Tim likes his physical media collection? Thank you very much for bringing that up. And I hope you guys have quite a bit of time.

have quite a bit of time. The thing about physical media is that the picture quality is a lot better. The sound quality, low-key, is a lot better. And yes, your house looks like a game stop, but you always have access to movies that you want to see. That's maybe the first memory I have of Tim

is on our group text. The first photo that he put on the chain was him like in front of like a huge backdrop of like, I don't know, hundreds, thousands? Almost 1,000. I had just gotten like a really good... They remastered The Keep, which was a very early Michael Man TV movie.

It hadn't existed in a format in the United States. And they had a... There was a German, like there was like a German release. The Keep. Guys, look, settle in. It's not a good movie. It's not a good movie for the record. So anyway, I was really proud of that when

I feel like that was featured in the photo. Do you obviously have then all the Veronica Mars seasons and the O.C. seasons in the physical media collection, yes? The quality is better. The quality in the sound is better. Can I, I think Adam knows this? I've never seen the O.C.

I've never seen it. I don't think my wife has. I haven't. I haven't either. What? Good. He's never seen Corona Mars. Not good.

It's bad, but I mean... As far as I knew, like, this guy was hitting hard in his first job. Last year, I was, wow, this Adam kid's going places. This bearded late bloomer is amazing. This is the Dakota Johnson Memorial question. She asked me this. I ask everybody, would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt?

I'll take it up the butt. Up the butt for sure. Up your butt for sure. Wait, beads or beans? Either, bees. Like bumblebees, honey. Honey, no, bumblebees. Oh, bees.

You really said a lot about yourself. Let's do beads. I was like, just let me eat the beans, man. Yeah, I suppose up the butt. Yeah, girls get our assholes waxed. Like, we're used to that kind of pain. I'm sorry. Bruce, what about you?

Bruce? The three of us are very confused right now. We don't know what's going on. The last factor anybody was mistaken for was... Well, I'm just... Because you're kind of... Of course. Well, I wasn't with...

In real life. In real life. My real life one was that actually, used to be Zoe de chanelle. I had like big, thick bangs. And I don't know if I can say that because it's a little bit of a spoiler. They saw it. Oh my God, you said it. I saw it. I saw it and you said it. You are. Anyways, that's a real story. And when I told them, they were like, obviously say that. So then I said it as Esther and it was, when that happened to me, I thought my shit did not sink.

I was like, yeah, so everyone thinks I'm her. So, cool. at the SAG Awards for this show last year I was in a conversation with a woman at the after party and she told me how much she enjoyed the show and how much it meant to her and she really hoped good things for me and 30 seconds in

it became clear she thought I was the guy from baby reindeer and we were so far down this path including selfies that I just was like I don't I felt like it would hurt her too much. So for like three minutes, I just pretended I was

the guy from baby reindeer. And I was like, yeah, I got a couple things in the, you know, that I've been developing that I'm really excited about. Keep like trying to remember any detail of his I think, we don't have... Did you speak in a British accent? No, I didn't go into the accent. That was the... Did you ever tell her? No.

This is a hell of a way to find out for her. Yeah, she's going to show a picture. Like, I got, I met the guy from baby reindeer and it's going to be me. Good. Anybody else? Anybody ever mistaken? No?

I get called Adrian Brody more than my real name, but I don't think people think I'm him. They just, the names are close. Anybody have a worst note a director has ever given them? Go to that deep, dark place. Yeah? I don't know. I don't know if this is a note,

but I had like a great college acting coach who would, like, stop scenes by yelling, boring. And then she'd be like, you're going to be a nothing burger from bum fuck nowhere, boring. That's, like, the one that's, she was, she was great. We loved her. Nothing burger is mine now. We want to end on that one, that pearl of wisdom?

Yeah, I mean, no one's going to beat it. Guys I love this cast I love this gang congratulations on season two nobody wants to spread the good word look at this audience thank you everyone

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