Happy Sad Confused - Olivia Colman & Jessie Buckley

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:02:24 come on, come on, fucking Rafe got in there. I'm hoping that maybe, oh yeah. I'd like to be one of the girls that's like, James, it's me, the girl from the bar. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. I'm Josh Horowitz, and today on Happy, Sad, Confused, we have not won, but two amazing actors making their happy, sad, confused debut today. They are classy broads who also like to swear profusely in their new movie, Wicked Little Letters. It's Olivia Coleman.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It's Jesse Buckley. Hi, guys. They're not happy to see me, for the record. They're just happy because they haven't seen each other in a while. I know. For ages. We are like an old married couple. I know. We were just looking like...
Starting point is 00:03:12 I know, I was to put my glasses on because I couldn't see the... It's still Jessie. It's still her. I still can't see it. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. It actually had a hair irritating. I couldn't see it. This feels like a waste. I feel like you guys should be like performing on a stage somewhere, not talking... You should be doing like waiting for Godot right now, not like talking to me.
Starting point is 00:03:29 This is a waste of... How long is that? It's quite a long play, isn't it? I like a short play. You want a one actor? Yeah. Yeah. Go, waiting for God.
Starting point is 00:03:37 There he is. Right. Spoiler, there he is. He came. I bring with me a message from a mutual friend. This is from Ali Plum. Oh, we got him really drunk. That's my shitty pigeon for you, in case you couldn't tell.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Oh, yeah. Still got it. Still got it. I have to say... Shitty pigeon. Not to be confused with the pigeon. Not to be confused with the pigeon that's shitting. That's a different whole different thing.
Starting point is 00:04:09 That's a very different ballgame. Absolutely. A pigeon that's pooing. Thank you for clarifying. You're welcome. So, as I said, neither of you have done the podcast. Olivia, somehow I've interviewed Vin Diesel 20 times over the years and I've never talked to you. This is insane.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's wrong, isn't it? Why are you avoiding me? What's going on? not. I'm so sorry. It's okay. Have you actually asked me? Yes. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Is that case I'm going to throw in, Selena? It's pretty hard to get. Jesse, you've never done the podcast, though we have met. In the land of bears? We were at Telly Ride. I feel responsible for saving your life, frankly, because I warned you and Claire Boy. You did, but I was kind of jealous that you had seen the bear, but kind of scared at the same time. A real bear out in the wild?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Oh, yes. I'm just falling apart. I had my wife saw. a bear in the wild you've been to tell you right I'm sure you haven't no I think twice I had some films there and I couldn't go I know everyone says that let's not rub it in Jesse it's okay it's all right yeah but it is it is pretty I've heard it's amazing pretty great so yes I saw a bear I warned her and I saved her life forever so you owe me forever thank you I will all you do you do you
Starting point is 00:05:23 do you guys fear animals what's what animal do you fear generally speaking what's the What's the one that haunts you in your dreams? I didn't think I've ever feared any. And I rescue spiders at home, because in the UK, there's nothing that can kill you. And then I've just been in Australia. Oh, everything. And I assumed the deadly spiders would look really obvious and massive and fangs. You know.
Starting point is 00:05:45 The telltale signs. And there was one little tiny dead spider on the side of a sink. I went, oh, I didn't leave the spider. And they went, oh, no, I don't. The little ones, just avoid all spiders, just the little ones. They're also quite deadly. Oh. They're the ones I'd have gone, oh, and tried to rescue them.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And before you release them, they sink their fangs, their tiny fangs into you, just because they're tiny. Yeah. We have a deer at the moment eating our flowers in my house. So my husband's bought a deer camera. So like a, but like a burglar alarm, but just purely for dears. Isn't that just a camera that's trained on dears? Is it specifically a deer camera?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Well, he was very excited that it was called a deer camera. And since the camera, get the deer camera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another 50 quid on it. But since he's put it up, we haven't seen one deer, but we have seen the gardener be like, like kind of, what is that thing that we've seen? We've only called.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I don't know it's the gardener going around. Eating them. You need the gardener camera. Yeah, they need. Would you rather work with animals or children? Which have you had better experiences with in your illustrious careers? Children for me. Yeah, both I think I've been pretty lucky with.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Yeah? I did something, for some reason, with a goose. That was quite tricky I like the dog in anatomy of a fault But everybody likes the dog Was that Snoop? That was Snoop, right? Or was that the child? I get the child in the
Starting point is 00:07:06 No, the child's name is Snoop And the dog's name is Something with M? Messy, messy, messy, messy, messy. Messy. There's a theory that Messi did it. You've heard that, right? That Messi is the responsible party.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I like that there's a conspiracy theory about this dog. There's a conspiracy theory about everything there. That's true. Do you subscribe to any conspiracies? Are you a big foot, paranormal believer? Are you a...
Starting point is 00:07:29 No. No. No, sorry. You're a pragmatic? No, I'm not. Nothing to evolve. Very much a scientific pragmatist. Is that a thing? Yeah. Yeah. If it can... Yeah. If it's just somebody reckons, I'm less likely to go with that. I'm sure on this amazing press story you've been asked how you met, for the benefit of entertainment, if you want to elaborate...
Starting point is 00:07:52 If you want to, like, make something up, like you were a karaoke party with Ryan Gossil. something cool. It was not actually that for, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were both working Hooters in 80 and 80s. And I was like, I like your rack. She's like, she's like, I, yours is small. How did you get into Hooters? And that was it really. Um, yeah. Do you want the truth? Yeah, I'll take a truth. Sure, we're here. I can't handle the truth, but I'll try it, I'll try. It was, yeah, music festival. And we sort of locked up. We sort of locked eyes and went, oh, we're going to get on very well. Fell in love.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And ended up singing until the wee hours of the morning. What were you singing? It was a bit depressing. Was it? I think their choice of it, because I always think, like, karaoke songs, I love Bohemian. Like, I think Bohemian Rhapsody is like a kind of, you just know, it depends.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I've had a, oh, I was just, blah, blah, la. Did you get all that? Yeah, that was my story. That was really good. Something like Bohemian Rhapsody is a good, it goes everywhere. You can be anywhere in the world and sing that out loud. But we didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:09:02 We sang Back to Black by Amy Winehouse at 6 a.m., which is quite dark. That's dark. And you did sing, never mind, I'll find. Oh, God. Darling, you were wonderful. Is Adele the go-to for you generally? Is that your go-to karaoke? I like Amy Winehouse and Adele, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:23 I also really like. doing John Bon Jovi. Oh, yes. Living on a prayer, what are you? Yeah. Yeah. Don't you dance to that with a daughter? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah. Oh, well done. There it is. I studied all your work. Let's go through each and every one. Jessie, it's been a minute since you've sung in a film. Yet that's where you obviously started. I mean, it's a big part of your beginnings.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I feel like I get asked to sing in like every one. But, like, not a full-on, we want the full-on, we want Wonka style, we want full-on classic movie musical. I'd love to do a big, a big old musical. Oh, that would be so fun. What's the one? What do we need to Secret of the Universe? I'm new one, a new one.
Starting point is 00:10:09 You could need letters, musical. Oh, yeah, yeah. Wouldn't that be fun? If you're like, fuck off, you're fucking men. That ends act one, that's the big. Yeah, yeah. I think it'd be great. Mamma Mia 3?
Starting point is 00:10:19 No, you want you. Like a radio head musical or something. Oh, of course. You got looks super cool. Yes. Well, I reckon we could write to them and ask. Yeah, I think they might be too cool to... Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah. I don't know what I can ask. Worth and ask. You've sang on a stage, on like a BAFTA stage. Like, is that nerve-wracking? Is that like a nerve-wracking experience? Yes. I was like, has anybody got beta blockers?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, that was like absolutely terrifying. It's a different experience than doing it like on a set. In a pub? Or a pub? Or with your buddy? On a set is so cool. because you can just like, you're with all your friends, you know. And you can cock it up, can't you, and start again?
Starting point is 00:11:01 And it's such, like, I remember the, that last scene we shot in Wild Rose. It was kind of the last, I think it was like the last day we, and it was such a, I don't know, it just, and all those musicians are so amazing that. But yeah, if you're, the baptister, you're like out of your body. Yeah. But then you see like faces of, I remember my brother was there and I saw him and I was like, oh, whoa, this is, you know, you can have like, you know, you can have like, You can see a face that you recognize
Starting point is 00:11:27 even if you're in a huge place and it feels like it's just them. But that's a dangerous, like you see someone like family and then you go like one over, you're like, oh wait, there's elbow or something, yeah, exactly. Okay, I'll just go back to my family. Speaking of award show performances, what do we think of Gosling?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Love it. Barbie, oh, his performance in the... On stage with the audience. Amazing. He can do no wrong. I mean, he's just the most charming. He just looks like he's just... laughs at himself, are they just like, brilliant.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Were you there? Did you see it? I was not there, I was on my couch, but I enjoyed it from the couch. Did you, you were kind of sort of in Barbie. You were, you shot something in Barbie. Yes, I did. Did you know that, Josie? No, well.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I think we were told not to tell anyone. Who were you? And then Helen told everyone. A scene with Helen Mirren, so you were kind of like the competing narrator, as I understand it? Yeah, yeah. And it's kind of the best of,
Starting point is 00:12:23 I can't believe I didn't tell you. Yeah. I just must have forgotten that. Okay, you're divorced. Wow. Secrets and lies. Wow. It was only one scene.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I was in there for a couple of hours and I was bouncing around outside Ryan's van thing. What are they called? Trailer. Sure. And van. She's new to the business, so she doesn't know the terminology. He does a little delivery job as well.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Sort of thinking, maybe he'll come out. And then somebody said, he's not here. I went, oh. I've been bouncing around for 40 minutes outside. his fan truck and yeah he was in the gym because I think for that part he was in the gym for like four hours a day I'm not sure something yeah anyway yes so our little scene made no it didn't add to the story at all and quite rightly they cut it out I think they before putting everything together and realizing that's
Starting point is 00:13:16 not necessary and it was it just your voices no we were both in it you know the desert the driving through the desert bit yeah they see us in the pink desert And... What were you? Me. Were you a Barbie? No, I was me. You were in?
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah. The acting perform at the stretch of a lifetime. Olivia Coleman is. Yeah. Me. But a drunk me. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Ah. That old chestnut, classic. I love that. When there was a... They arranged a phone call between Greta Goerwig and me and David Heyman, the producer. Right. Just as it was coming to being released and I went, oh, I know what this will be. And it was coming.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Perfect, so I got paid and no one can say I was shit in the film. It's literally the dream job. And you have room to have a larger part in the sequel now. You had the little, it was a little came in. Now you can get something bigger. It made a gazillion. Of course, they're going to make a sequel. Do they want a karaoke barbie?
Starting point is 00:14:11 They could do karaoke barby. Ah! Whim, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boobarang, guddling. Were you cut out of Oppenheimer? Did you get a scene in that one? Nope. Make it up. No one knows.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But you must know, in terms of award shows, you must have delighted seeing your old buddy, Emma, Emily, when looking at your ghost. I know. That was gorgeous. And I love her dress broke. I was like, oh, well done, love. I'm having too much from dancing to Ken.
Starting point is 00:14:45 What a legend. And do you feel connection when an Irish actor, the first Irish-born actor to win best actor, Killing Murphy? Do you feel like a connection? Oh, my God. I was, like, just so delighted for him, you know. He's such a gorgeous man as well. It's just, yeah. It is a never, you have an Oscar on the mantle. Hey, Michael. Hey, Tom.
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Starting point is 00:16:03 And hopefully, we can do movies together. Hot. Yes, I do. You do. This lady's inevitably going to get one. Totally going to get at least three. What's the one? A razi.
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Starting point is 00:16:40 Music thing. Oh, okay. So, Jessie is a proper, she's likely to get everything. Show us all up. No, let's move on. All right, let's get some love to this delightful movie. What do we need to tell the audience? Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:07 It's brilliant. It's going to win all the awards. You should go. It's not an awards film. I think we all know that. But it's a great, I think it's a great trip to the cinema. It's a great laugh. It's also quite emotional.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You can have go, oh, and I think it's really lovely. It's funny. Were you two, I mean, obviously you hadn't really shared the screen before despite being in The Lost Daughter before. So like what is the protocol, like when did one of you obviously have the sign on first and then when you heard the other was involved, was it like text, ring them up and say, are you in? I'm in if you're in kind of a thing.
Starting point is 00:17:41 I was on board first because it was with my, our production company. And Studio Canal sent it to us and I read it and oh, that's great, that would be fun. And then we went, Rose. And so then we phone Jesse and saying, would you come and play? And I was like, yes. And the dynamic, I mean, the friction between the two characters must be so much fun
Starting point is 00:18:05 to play with, given your off-screen relationship. Yeah. Oh, just such a joy. And I remember, I think we've both talked about this, but that first scene we ever had together, because I mean, we swear at each other for free all the time. And suddenly we need to do it. But also looking into each other's eyes.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And it's a bit violent. but looking into each other's eyes for the first time on that first to sort of yeah and actually didn't wasn't at that last scene that we shot was our first ever scene at the end yeah and i think i was a little bit more serious than i normally am because i was so nervous about not fucking it out oh me too but also you know when you know somebody so well you're like there's that ting and god like just love this woman with all my heart i love you Like in every possible way and when you were that like in love and with somebody and you've to kind of be in a different world. It's kind of a funny little moment.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You know, sometimes I get my husband or to like read a script with me and I can tell and be like, God, she's crap. Trust me, it'll be better on set. Yeah, because they know you so well that like you're kind of, but it was just. amazing. It was heaven going to work with each other every day. It was just a dream and then we also stayed because quite a lot of it was filmed away from so we couldn't stay at home and there's one place where we had a little shepherd's next to each other and like two little married wives we'd sit out every night with glass of wine and ordered chips and we're always drinking eating kind of the dream and it was so nice to do something so light you know and fun and um this
Starting point is 00:19:50 was more fun than Chernobyl or West fun than Chernobyl? Kind of a bit more fun. Well, they're all different, but like, I definitely felt I had done sort of kind of like loads of heavy, dense material, and I just really wanted to do something light and fun and be with one of my best friends and get to go to work. And it was such a, like, yeah, it was so great. I mean, you talk about sort of like not wanting to, like, disappoint your friend in a way, and I've heard you say something to the effect of, like, a typical job entails
Starting point is 00:20:24 me having, like, five different panic attacks during the course of shooting. Does that just go with the territory? Is that just, like, demanding of yourself, and you just know the nerves will be there, and that's just part and parcel of your process at this point? I think I'm always kind of scared that someone's going to fire me and, like, catch you out. That's really common, though, isn't it? Yeah, and you're kind of... You're going to be found out.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Do you still have that, Olivia? Yeah, I think. I think everyone does, I think it would be bad not to have that in a way. Once you go, piece of pace. And you, you know, you feel like that then. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Yeah. Although I feel very at home on a set. I do love me. Oh my God. I haven't filmed for a year and we just did like a camera test yesterday and I was like, Hey. It was like kind of you're like old fling coming on this camera. I was like, oh God, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:21:20 God, I missed it so much. Oh, that's so nice. It was so nice to get like, Oh, goody. First days or last days? What do you prefer? I think I prefer first days. I do too.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Because last days, you're like, oh, God. Well, not oh, God, where you've had this whole thing is coming to an end, and then you're like, okay, well, I should have done that, I could have done that differently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now it's done, you know, like, there's no going back. Yeah. And it's also not going to continue, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:50 at what point in the process do you realize that the entire press tour you're going to be able to just have so much fun and not only hang out with each other but just curse your fucking heads off for a week's set of time I mean that's a nice bonus of this all too there's the nicest thing about this press talk because I don't mean to be offensive
Starting point is 00:22:08 I find the press the most difficult part of I get it but it is that we get to just sit next to each other if I could if you could just come on all press tours and I'll come on all your press tours Yeah. Like a little in your pocket. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 That would be so nice. Jesse, I didn't notice you in the film. What are you doing in this press tour? No, I'm just here as like her kind of, what do they, those security dogs? Oh, like the emotional sport. Emotional support. Emotional support. A security dog.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Did you guys grow up cursing around your parents? Like, was that? I did. You were much better behaved. Well, I wasn't. But, like, I remember the first time I cursed. Was, are we gone, obviously, you're always going to a convent or some priest land. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And we were coming back from some convent land. And I was probably about eight. And I remember, I don't know, I probably just said, feckin' Mary or, I don't know, Jesus. I don't know. I don't know what I said, but. I mean, that's the worst. Well, I was put out in the back step. And I, until I had done my penance.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And now, it's revenge. No, you're making up for lost time. We were talking about awards. I mean, I feel like there's a new award for Best Improvised Nudity in this film. The first winner is, it's Jesse Buckley, everybody. Slow clap.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I love it. I mean, most actors try not to do nudity. They're like, actually, this isn't organic to the story. I'm not going to do this. Jesse goes the other way. Yeah. It was fun. It backfired, I didn't it?
Starting point is 00:23:47 It did backfire. Backside fire. Because I think I was just running out, and then I thought, oh, I'm just going to take my knickers off. And you do it once, but then you realize you have to do it like ten more times. Right. And then the jokes on. That's it.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Oh, that's definitely Jesse. Great. We'll go with that. Ah. Right. Right. Too smart for your own good. Listen, I'm happy my pale Irish ass is out there in the world.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's beautiful. And people can. That's it. No. There it is. An acting challenge for you ladies today. So there are a lot of different ways to tell somebody to fuck off, I would imagine. Like to, I would love to hear you tell me to go fuck myself, fuck off, with different emotions.
Starting point is 00:24:29 No, I don't know if I can do that. You can do it. You can do it. But it's like some kind of weird kind of... Massacistic. Yeah, masochistic. It's my problem. It's a me problem, not a you problem.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Do it harder, harder, harder. I didn't say that. Can you do it with anger, with love? with any emotion you want to assign to. I just want to hear a couple variations for the kids out there. Okay, okay, with Andrew. So just fuck off.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. Fuck off! Okay, that's good, that's good. Thank you. Fuck off. Oh. Fuck off. So that was with a glitch.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yeah, the robot just went. Oh, fuck, quag up. Fuck off. That's the most chilling fuck off. That's the most chilling fuck off. There it is. I can't stop smiling now. No, it's too hard.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'll try to be more rude next time. I know I'm never going to get an Oscar. It's... Which of your many illustrious co-stars over the years has the best way with the curse, would you say? Do any jump out at you that's... Because there's certain, like, it's like, it's natural to hear profanity come out of certain actors' mouths for me at least. I'll say one comes... Judy Dench says...
Starting point is 00:25:39 Is that right? That's not the one I was going to say. She... Oh, she... We did murder on the Orient Express together and I did it mainly because I knew that... the script I would sit next to Judy Dench all day absolutely yes please I'll do it for nothing and so I yes sitting with Judy and Ken Branagh would say okay so this that happened and Judy whatever you can because he was being funny because Judy is obviously amazing and
Starting point is 00:26:07 she'd go fuck off darling oh loved her oh it's delicious you worked I mean relatively recently last couple with kind of the top of the heap in that. Sam Jackson is... Oh, he's the best. Are you kidding me? What kind? What kind giving me? His motherfucker is the best.
Starting point is 00:26:26 It's almost like a kiss. I mean, because you could go, oh, you feel so... It's a safe place for it to be and to listen to that. You know, he's larger the knife. He's loud. He's the sweetest man you could ever meet. But it feels like he's eight foot tall and he comes into a room and he's got a big loud voice.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And everyone was just waiting and waiting. waiting and then his I think it was his double came in to do something who's very handsome and he went my father about him being incredibly good looking and the whole room went yeah he did it it was just what a life to be rewarded for like people wanting you I know just say it say it say it please yeah yeah oh god he's gorgeous he's such a lovely man Jesse for you does anybody come to me is is Claire Foy our beloved Claire Foy member by the way five time member of happy second fuse yeah she's she's a swearer she is a vet she is right yeah yeah she's a good she's a good old swearer tom hardy
Starting point is 00:27:24 where's he at he's probably got a good sure he's a swearer good old fuck he knows a good yeah yeah yeah i would think so yeah yeah i wouldn't trust somebody who didn't yes i think She's a good swarer, isn't she? Oh, yeah. Mary Margles? Miriam. I like when all the, like, dames are just, like, healthy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 It's great, isn't it? Did you hear Miriam talk about? I mean, look, we love Marvel. You were in Marvel. Just talked the other day about, like, I'm good. No Marvel, they wanted me in a Marvel show, and she's like, I'm not going to Atlanta for six months. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Who does to her? I mean, make your own choices, you know? I love Marvel. Yeah. Not ashamed to say it. Yeah. I think there's room in the world for all genres and things. And I was very excited to be in a Marvel,
Starting point is 00:28:09 but I filmed in the UK. There you go. See, I would also understand, even though I love Marvel, and I love the fact that they can pay you so much. One of their best qualities, arguably. But I don't think I could do overseas for six months. I'm not getting emotional.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I've just inhaled my own spittal. Do you, Jesse, are you itching? Have you done a superhero audition in your career? Every actor has. don't know if I have I think I don't belong in a great superhero I don't want to be in a big tight you don't want spandex
Starting point is 00:28:46 if I could be like a kind of blob I think like a jabbing a hut or I don't know that sounds fun I don't know I don't know you don't have to be in a body stocking really yeah well I was not didn't have any powers gutted I find it interesting that like there's a kind of either you're in or you're like
Starting point is 00:29:08 there's a club of like you're in or you're out or like you have a morality around Marvel I'm like I don't know you know like people do you do what you get drawn to do and like if when I'm like you know I understand you know
Starting point is 00:29:22 in the cinemas of you know they might take up all the screens and there's one screen doing this beautiful piece which I understand that and I do wish more people went to see the smaller beautiful
Starting point is 00:29:37 films, but I do, there's no point lying about it when a Marvel film comes out, I fucking love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I wish there were, you know, more cinemas really fighting for the smaller film. I don't think I've actually ever seen a Marvel film.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Well, that's our next weekend. What should she start with? What are you going to do? You start at the beginning, Iron Man, just go to... I just don't know if it's for me.
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Starting point is 00:31:15 Search for Raiders of the Lost podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. I mean, I should give it a go. Is Star Wars for you? Are you into any of, is there a genre, is Harry Potter? Nothing. Oh, God, I love Harry Potter. I like it. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:31:30 No judgment. But that's a different thing. That's a day. There's like prompt. There's like characters, you know, like kind of fun characters. And maybe I just have, I should go and see a Marvel film. Olivia and I are going to take you to the movies. We're going to get you educated.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, we'll do it for four days solidly and we'll go through them. It's hard to know which order, though, isn't it? Have you seen them all? Wow. Wow. You're amazing. official. We are very much in the final sprint to Election Day. And face it, between debates, polling releases, even court appearances. It can feel exhausting, even impossible to keep up with.
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Starting point is 00:32:54 Oh. I think cursing at a funeral makes perfect sense. You were saying, sorry, the funeral? I think a funeral makes perfect sense. Yeah. This is fucking shit. Yeah, yeah. This is miserable.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah. Swearing in a church which isn't at a funeral, possibly bad. I think the books sound kind of fun. Anywhere you're not meant to do anything, sounds like you should probably do it. True rebel. Yeah, yeah. Is it true?
Starting point is 00:33:25 Speaking of rebellion, you cursed at Buckingham Palace in front of the queen? Is that a true story? No, that was... No, I love how these stories get. Okay, is that the record straight? Here we go. Paddy Konstine and I were at Windsor for a British film sort of thing. I don't know, sort of trying to boost British film.
Starting point is 00:33:50 So they invited lots of various filmy people to Windsor for a drinks do. And we didn't realize that the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh were going to be there. We just thought it was a venue to go and talk about British film. And before we knew it was sort of ended up all in a line. We're going, why are we in a queue? What's happening? And then we look around the corner and went, oh my God. And there was the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And this guy in Appalettes went, don't overdo it. Gentleman, shouldn't trust. And it's your Royal Highness and Your Majesty. So Duke of Edinburgh and then the Queen. And Paddy went first, nervous and sweating. And he went, Your Royal Highness. And I saw him go, fuck it. As he went past because he got the two muddled up, got it wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:30 But you were out of ear shot, hopefully. Yes, no, he went, I saw him do that, and I knew he was going, but I got it wrong. Yeah, so that's what that was. Fair enough, okay. I did also take a square of Lurl from Buckingham Palace once. But that has become bastardized as in, I was stealing Lurys.
Starting point is 00:34:51 You were just grabbing anything you could. Famous, the thief, that is, Olivia Coleman. If I'm bolted down, she'll take it. Times are tough. Of course, letters are important to this story. The power of words, let's talk about it. Have you ever been tempted to write a letter to a critic, to write an email? Oh, I've been tempted to send anonymous poo to a critic.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Wow. And there's shoulders going in the corner. Yeah. I was so cross about two critics. So I just want to say, you know, you fucking worked for two years on something and somebody goes, didn't like it, send. Fuck off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, which is, no, the whole point is, you might say I didn't like it, but lots of people in Cimar did like it, but just to go, anyway, I felt really cross and upset, and because it just felt so, it wasn't a rounded piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just a quick dismissal. And it was one of my kids who went, apparently you can send poo. Oh, let me Google this. Part of the, you know, the sort of catharsis of just getting over it was just looking out, going, oh, yes, you can. You can actually send it. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:06 You can send poo. Maybe you could have engraved it. A little, soft little, yes. From zoos and things. So like a dollop of, I don't know, buffalo poo. You can send it. It's a dangerous Google search, I will say. I feel like once you go down that.
Starting point is 00:36:20 There's a whole wormhole of things on, I mean, not that I've loved. I don't know if I should. But there's like, I remember. I remember watching a documentary on, like, fetishes or something once, and there is, like, people like getting anonymous poo in the... Oh, they like getting... They like getting... And this one girl was, like, making loads of money
Starting point is 00:36:40 by sending frozen poo. This is what we could be doing. Yeah. New revenue stream. They're making loads of money, and we don't have to leave home. We keep looking for things we can do or we can just stay at home. There's a huge market for Olivia Coleman Pooh. I'm willing to get a guarantee.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Well, let's just have a... Let's see how much money we could make and then I could stay at home. And then they can be like, that's some good shit. Motherfucker! I mean, the irony is you could have sent that poo to the critic and they could have been one of those that would have gotten off on the poo and then you've just screwed the whole thing up.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah. But this could now start something where critics start getting... And there's been like a pandemic of poo for the press and there's like a big thing. Sorry, I'm going on. This is good, thank you. I'm going way off. Yes, anding.
Starting point is 00:37:30 This is perfect. Bring me back. Bring me back. What about, like, folks that come up to you, usually with beautiful compliments on the street. Almost never you hear a rude comment, I would think, from a fan. But sometimes I feel like it's inadvertent.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Like, there's the backhanded compliment. Does that ever happen? I have, quite often go, oh, you're not as fat as I thought you were. Oh. Thank you. Or you look. look younger in the flesh or which is that's quite nice but also then you think I look old
Starting point is 00:38:02 most of the time it knows just sometimes just don't shh less is more yes yeah what's the ideal fan encounter what's the uh do you know in america and in australia it's been so much nicer on the whole than in america you get the other person going i really like your work yeah that's so nice no selfie just sort of like a quick that's so nice yeah i mean if If people go, may I have a selfie, that's, you know, better than in the UK, there's a lot of people who do it without asking and just think that they, you can't tell. That's really rude. It's really, invasive, like you don't have any autonomy in that situation.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Right, it's not treating you like a human being. Yeah, exactly, it's horrible. But people in America are so much more polite and in Australia. We're also even very effusive. You guys, correct if I'm wrong, have either of you ever done stage work here in the States? I haven't. No, no. Why do you hate my country?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Why do you hate New York? No, I'd love to do it. I'd love to do play home. Yeah, it was always my dream to do a sort of off-Broadway thing. But now that's lifestyle, you want to be home. Yeah, well, my youngest, I think when my youngest leaves home, then I'll go, right, come on, I'll need to fill my time, so I'm not crying all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Sure. When everyone leaves home, it's going to be awful. Yeah. So then I'll come to Broadway. Oh, so awful. We're waiting for Godo. Waiting for Godo. Waiting for...
Starting point is 00:39:29 Oh, no, he's there. End of play. See you in the back. $200 space for those five minutes. I was going to say, because American audiences are infamously much more open. A lot of standing o's. If you need some validation, we're here for you. Oh, that does sound nice, actually.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Particularly when my children all leave me. That would be... I might just move to New York. Yeah, we'll fill the gap. Yeah, thanks. It's a date. I'll see you in 12 years. Oh, that's...
Starting point is 00:39:56 too long some most likely to is among the two of you okay who's most likely to be in a James Bond movie does that appeal to either of you yeah definitely I'm the nerd that loves all of these things I really when Judy wasn't em I thought come on come on come on fucking Rafe got in there I'm hoping that maybe oh yeah now's the time I'd like to be one of the girls that's like James it's me the girl from the bear James, it's me, a girl from the band. Oh my God, we should doubt.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah, yeah. You don't want a multi-dimensional role. You just, like, want a one-dimensional bond woman. That's it. One line. Yeah. That's all I want. There you go. But you've got to be like, I love that sort of red, you're oldie voice.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I think I know where all these are headed, considering Olivia's interest in your lack in some of these, but most likely to be in a Fast and Furious movie. You would be good. You love, you're very good at driving, and she's a rally. driver. Well, that, well, you are. My dad was a rally driver as a hobby and my brother, and he used to teach us to skid around fields and things, and I did have my provisional rally driver's license when I'm 60. You were ready. Vin, come calling. This is it. What about jumping off a volcano with
Starting point is 00:41:19 Tom Cruise and the next mission of possible? Absolutely not to don't like heights. I quite like to go near the volcano. Okay. That's okay. I'll do that. Okay, okay. Are either of you likely to join Instagram at any point? Absolutely not, no. Rather put shit in my eye. Now we know that can be arranged.
Starting point is 00:41:37 That's available. Oh, that's true, yes. Oh, yeah. And I don't have to buy that. I could just do my own. Who is Dreamier, Timothy Shalmay or Paul Meskell? Oh, no, that's like Sophie's choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I don't know Timmy, so I'll say Paul. From experience, yeah. Yeah, we both know Paul better. Paul is, yeah, he's a total dreamboat, isn't he? But they're both beautiful, yeah. They are. I admire from afar, Timmy. Have you just worked with Paul again, or you were about to?
Starting point is 00:42:06 I'm about to work with him again, yeah. But he's in New York at the moment. That's right. You said that, I forgot to text him. She sends his presence. You could feel the mescal in the air, can you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of.
Starting point is 00:42:18 The mesco. Oh, de mescal. He should do a perfume. It's only a matter of time. Just to mention some future projects, you're going to be working with Maggie again, right? Yeah. Starting on Friday, yeah. Starting on Friday.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah. But you start Friday. Oh, Jesse. This is kind of a reinterpretation of Bride of Frankenstein, it's fair to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, no two ways about it, that's what it is. Who do you play? Can you say anything about... I don't know what you can say. Do we know? What's Jesse allowed to say?
Starting point is 00:42:53 She can say it all. You don't have to say anything. But how about this? I was privileged enough to see a cabaret in London. Amazing. Any FOMO? Eddie's here right now, as you know. He's getting ready to...
Starting point is 00:43:05 Eddie's here too. Yeah, I know. There's so many people here. Ben Wischel's coming next weekend. Stop it. It's a party, guys. It's a party. Move over.
Starting point is 00:43:15 We're all going to watch Marvel movies together. Yeah, yeah. But are you going to try? I guess you're going to be working, so you can't see them. Oh, I'm definitely going to see it. And I'm so excited. excited for them like it's so and I also um well he's over here doing cabaret yeah yeah with Gail Rankin is yeah and I did men with Gail of course yes
Starting point is 00:43:36 such a heart and I can't wait to see her just like yeah rip it up it'll be amazing but no they're so excited yeah what a production yeah I'm excited too I do want to just mention you were amazing in the bear what a nice amazing surprise like how do you just say how that happened like had you been a fan was it a total random phone call We'd, as a family, we'd all watched it and just loved it. There was a, you know, the bear and beef were happening around the same sort of time. We were just sort of, it was like the best sort of, little sort of thing of telly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And loved the bear. And then I got an email going, we wondered if. And I like, yes, please. And so I got, I flew on a Sunday night, did the one scene on Monday, flew back Monday. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's slightly bonkers, but it was so exciting. Eben's such an amazing talent too.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It is. He's so amazing. And because I only saw my bit, I didn't know the sort of arc of the story. So when we watched season two, it was so beautiful that, you know, that's genius, isn't it? Genius writing as well. Yeah. That Eben at the beginning, cousin, the whole world goes, ah, I can get him out. You know, he's not helping.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And then he ends up saving everything. Yeah. Ticks is tight off. Oh my God, it's beautiful. Singing some Taylor Swift in the car, come on. Yes. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Sadly, we're out of time. You guys hopefully will come back on the podcast at some point. I'm there for you in Bear Attacks. I'm there for you on anonymous poo, whatever you need. This is going to go wrong, isn't it? Congratulations. The new film is delightful. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Thank you. A real pleasure, guys. Thank you for the time today. Likewise. Thank you so much. much. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your
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