Happy Sad Confused - Outlander (Caitriona Balfe, Sam Heughan, Sophie Skelton, Richard Rankin)

Episode Date: June 15, 2023

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That's good. That's a new show. Well done. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Today on Happy, Sad, Confused, I'm Josh Horowitz, and I'm here with a cast of Outlander. Hello, guys. my friends, you're in for a special treat

tonight. The drought lander is almost over, guys. I'm so excited. I can't even speak. Season 7 is upon us. I want to welcome this sold-out crowd in New York City. I want to welcome our virtual audience. Literally thousands of you are watching around

the world. Thank you for joining us. And for the folks that are watching after the fact this podcast, thank you for supporting happy second fused. I'm going to give my little spiel. Don't put it on YouTube, it's gonna get on YouTube, guys. Don't, just don't do it. Don't make me send the team of lawyers after you

that I don't have. So, look, guys, we have an amazing group of actors that I positively adore tonight. We're gonna take your questions, we're gonna talk about the new season, we're gonna talk about the end about Lander. Boo! Maybe they'll agree to three more seasons tonight.

I don't know. Look, I want to start with two actors who I've had the privilege of knowing for a number of years. They are disgustingly charismatic and talented and have been sweet to me, and I'm not going to say it to the guy's face because he's a jerk to me. But please give a warm New York welcome to the stars of Outlander, Katrina Balf and Sam Hewin. Hello, everybody. Hi, hi, hi. we've got drinks, we've got provocative questions,

we've got about 900 very enthusiastic fans. What's the worst that could happen? This is a New York welcome. I like that. Oh, it's so nice to be back, isn't it? It's so nice. It's great to see you both. It's been a look.

I feel like I haven't had my Katrina and Sam time together in ages, so this is a special treat. I mean, thank God we're not sitting on a Zoom. Like, cheers to this. Cheers to that. Right, come on. Whoever poured this gin, I commend you. Shameless, shameless.

Okay, guys, let's talk. A lot has been made about the chemistry. I don't see it between the two of you. Whatever. Is too much made about chemistry generally in acting, if you guys legitimately did not get along, could this show have been as successful as... Oh, Katrina made a face.

I mean, I think many shows have been successful and people have not gotten along. I mean, you hear those stories. I just couldn't imagine doing that. It would be horrible. It would be really difficult. And it's a weird one, isn't it? When they say, you know, do you have chemistry or something? I don't know. I'm just sort of doing

the job, right? I don't know what they see. What do they see? Well... A ridiculous human being and another person getting through working with a ridiculous human being. Wait, which one's which? Well, that's the question.

No, I just look at, I think what we do, A, we love it so much, and it's such a privilege to get to do something that you love, but the days are long, the days are tough, and I think if you had to do that with an added, you know, that air of not getting along with somebody, it would be so awful

and luckily we do and after 10 years as well like we ever had a fight okay let me rephrase that have we ever had a fight where I'm not drunk and it's me fighting with myself and then I take you home here you go there you go

I don't think we have no we've maybe bickered or I don't know got grumpy with each other, and it lasts about two minutes. Now that you have a nearly two-year-old, Katrina, do you now notice similarities between a two-year-old and Sam Hewin? It's amazing how much training I've had without even knowing it. I just, I'm kind of confused by the baby monitor you've put in my trailer. Katrina? Katrina?

No, it's, there's a lot of similarities. It's a lot of distraction and food. You can pretty much, you know, turn any situation around with Sam Hewin or a toddler with distraction with food. It's when I saw on my pants is really embarrassing. Hey, we've been together so long now. It's fine. All right. So take me back to the beginning. Sam, you've just gone through puberty. You're growing hair in new places.

You're still. Is he? Working your way. What was the best case scenario when you both landed this? Does this surpass what you ever in your wildest dreams thought it would be? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think, you know, I think, you know, when we signed on to this, you know,

I remember my first day, I've said this story before, but sitting with my driver, Davy, who still drives me now, which is fantastic. Yeah, and I remember him asking, how long is this going to last? I'm like, oh, a year, maybe two, max. And it is... Thought you were optimistic. Yeah, I know, right? I had no idea.

And it's just incredible now that, you know, 10 years later, we're still there, still with the same driver, and I'm still late every day. Uh-huh. Now, I remember my lawyer, when we were doing the deal and all of that kind of stuff, my lawyer, because I was living in L.A. at the time, and he was like, you do realize this is a year, and you're going to be living in Scotland. And I was like, I'm Irish. This is amazing. I get to kind of go home, but not really home. So, and I was like, it's a year. It'll be so much fun. Then I'll come back to L.A. and it'll be great. great. Ten years later. After you both

were cast and knew who your co-star was, did you research each other? Did you ask, did you find mutual friends? Did you Google each other? Were you kind of flying in blind once you? God, I don't think I even realized Google existed. I mean, this is ten years ago, John.

Not computers then, yeah. No, but I don't think that was really a thing, was it? I mean, we definitely didn't have Instagram at the time. Right. I was on Twitter, were you on Twitter? I think I had just signed up for Twitter, like maybe a couple of months before.

No, I was not literate enough to be, or cool enough to be on MySpace. I think somebody had just signed me up to Twitter, but like, yeah, no, I walked into that room blind. Yeah. More ways than one. Speaking of walking into that room, and look, I know a lot has been talked about the chemistry test, but I don't know if I've ever seen you guys react to the chemistry test.

So I'm going to show. Have another sip of your drink and enjoy what must have been your first meeting, the chemistry test for Outlander. Yeah, we're going to watch. Here we go. All right, yeah. I went to you, armed with nothing

but an empty pistol in my barelands. Aye. You're right. My pride is hurt. And my pride's about all I've got left to me right now. You're tearing my guts out clear. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Forgive me. Forget my lass. Scroftricus, just go off the case. No. I'm sorry to you. I'll ask your pardon for what I said. I was sore. You forgive me too.

Forgive. Give. Oh, wow. I lost my ring during that as well. Did you? Yeah, it went under the chair. I think when you grab my hand and I like punched in the face, I was very sorry.

That is good. Wow, sweaty. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm sitting in a bear hug. It's absolutely fine, thank you. Please stop rolling the camera. Jesus.

Dear God. First of all, did you notice I wore a tartan dress? Very clever. I like that one, tart and dress. Actually, it is interesting seeing that, like how physical we were, and we just met. They also made me take my heels off, so I look really short.

In reality, you actually are, aren't you? Wow. Not as short as Josh. Yeah, Josh is... I'm sorry. What did I do? Did you think you'd nailed it? Did you, like, when you walk off camera there,

do you like, oh, I think I, I think I might have it? Wait, he had the job. No, did I? No, but I felt like, okay, if I don't get it, I don't know what else I could have done. one of those. You know, you kind of feel like, all right, do you leave it on the table? Right. Is that the saying? Yeah, yeah. Left it all out on the field. We're going to use all the metaphors.

And Sam, your recollection of that. That's... She left it all out there on the field, yeah. No, I, I am, no, look, we had, they've been looking for Claire all over and we've done a bunch of screen tests and... How many? What were their names? Not many. Not many. We've done a bunch of... And they were all fantastic

and obviously everyone was just very different but this was so physical and as you can see, you know, I think at one point there's another scene we did and it's the fight before that part and we got so aggressive towards each other. Yeah, I think we actually...

I think you went to grab me and I went to hit... I don't know. Yeah, it was a... So that's... Hey, it all started. She tried to... Well, okay. Domestic amusement.

Yeah, anyway. No. Can we hash out something that came up in a recent conversation, Sam and I had... You were talking about voice messages. Uh-huh. So what was the gist of it, that you don't enjoy a voice message, right? Katrina. No, this is something we do have to hash this out right here, right now.

Let's get to the bottom of it. If you're going to spend the time talking into a phone, just fucking call me. It's not a monologue. It should be a conversation. You're so fickle, all of you. Counter argument. Yeah, I'm not got time to call you and I don't really want to call.

Exactly. That's the point. And also, I want to... It's a fucking bullshit call. It's like, I kind of want to say something, but I don't really have time for you, so I'm just going to like fuck at you. I'm going to control how much I'm going to say.

No. Yeah. No, listen. You can listen to the, the counter argument or talk over me. You like to text. And texting, I think, you lose a lot of intonation. You lose the tone.

I think also with a voice note, you can leave someone a beautiful message. They can hear your voice, and they can reply in their own time. It's a lot more personal than a text. Thank you. Let's work this out once and for all. Or call and just have a fucking conversation. Okay. We're going to heal this relationship.

We once did something called couples therapy. Let's kind of... Wow. Rolling out the classics there. Let's do it for real now. We're going to make this really awkward. We are in New York, so we should have some therapy. It's a very New York thing.

I want you to stare each other in the eyes and tell your friend and cohort one thing that you appreciate about the other. I can't, Josh. One thing that I appreciate. You go first. I appreciate when you do leave a voicemail

that you generally started with, how are you? Generally. I appreciate. You're supposed to look at her when you do this. That when I leave a voicemail, that you reply. That's the end. Yes.

I think we're going to have to schedule a follow-up session, guys. It's going very well. As you can imagine, I have some questions from your devoted fans. We're going to take some of yours a little bit later, but this The first one is from Magali, wants to know, which achievement are you most proud of in your roles as executive producers? Can you give an example of how you manage to get things moving the way you wanted them to? Yes.

I've been petitioning for four-day work week. And I managed to get it. All done. I've been petitioning. Do you know what? What have we done? I feel like we're going to be terribly exposed right now. I don't know that we've any grand...

Do you provide a united front? Do you like talk it out together or is it... Do you not need to do that kind of thing? I think we do provide a united front. And I think, you know, we're very lucky. We do have a great dialogue with the other producers in the world. writers and I mean even going back you know two seasons ago and talking about the intimacy coach Vanessa who's fantastic she does a great job yes thank you you know that was something

that I when I met her working through the RCS or the Conservatoire in Scotland she she just seemed so perfect for the job and I realized that we were lacking very very much in that department so that's been really great to introduce her to the production What else have we done? Days are very fast. There's a lot of emails. Sometimes you just send off an email and you think hopefully that might be helpful

and solve a problem. And generally, probably it's not. But you know, you do it and you hope that it is. No, to be honest, we do, and actually Katrina's very good at, you know, working with the writers and the scripts and getting back to them and working on drafts. And I think it is important

because we have been on the show now for almost 10 years and I guess we are the consistency in this. And we have new writers all the time, and they are fantastic. But it is great to be able to have an input as well and to sort of give a voice to your character. I asked you both a couple questions prior to this chat, some pre-interview questions. I asked you to pre-select a scene of yours

that you take pride in. I thought you were joking. and a scene of your co-stars that you think they excelled in. Sam's walking off. Sam's done. So I'm curious, can you even guess what the other would say or no, not at all? Was this an easy, this challenged both of you. It felt like this was the toughest question I'd ever asked either of you. Fair to say?

Well, it's just, no, it's hard to talk about your own work in that way. Yeah, and it's hard to quantify what someone else is, you know, I think Sam's brilliant all the time. He just embodies that character so wonderfully. Thank you. It's like marking something that's just, I don't know. And there have been so many scenes with, you know, to think back to season two, three, four, it's hard to pick one out, you know. I thought it was just season six. I was wondering why you selected just season six.

That makes sense now. It's okay. It was through the entire. It's all good. We're getting the gist of it. It's okay. We're fine. But I think there are a few that stand out, definitely.

I should really read emails better. If we all come away with one thing tonight, we all need to just text better. We need to email better. We all have stuff to work on. So what did you choose? So Katrina, do you want to know for yourself? Did you choose these, Josh? No, I did not.

Do you want to know what she chose for herself or about you? For herself, because she's not giving me that fake. Because she gave me better answer, actual fuller answers than you, so I'm going to not put her on the spot. For better answers. No, I'm saying she elaborated. My text to you was actually quite in depth. Oh, it was a text, and I, like, went into the reason.

So it wasn't a voice note? You texted him? Yes. Oh. No, I didn't know. I see. So you text Josh, but not. Not me.

I've never gotten a voice text for him. I can't send him voice notes, although he thinks something else. I can't get rid of him afterwards. He's just... Katrina enjoyed it when you flip the table in the season. That's not all that I said, though. Come on. That was my funny aside at the end.

But I like the funny aside. Now I need to find the fuller answer. I like it when he flips the table. I said the scene that you had with Fergus, because I thought that was a really beautiful, heartfelt scene. You don't know. And then I said,

or flips the table cause guns. That's what I said. That was my funny aside. We're moving on, guys. This is too much. Season seven is coming imminently.

Wait, what? What? We're moving on. No. What do you want to do? My text was really in debt. Okay, Sam said, Sam basically,

he kind of cheated talking about Katrina Because he said, he said, you're amazing with all of your co-stars, not him. You didn't cite himself. He was very humble about it. But you didn't cite a specific scene. That's okay. You were saying there are too many to choose from about her. Yeah.

That's literally what you said. That's true. There wasn't one fucking scene. So bad news, there will be no season eight about lander, guys. Cumulative. Oh, my Lord. I forgot this goes out past this season. people too. I apologize for my potty mouth mom. That's okay. Have another.

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Or what? Read it. Yeah, go read it. Oh, now he's worried. What does I say? That's a pretty long text. I don't think I've had a text this long from him in about four years. Yep.

A lot of thought went into that text. It's nice things, Katrina. No, no, it's, and I completely agree with the scene that he chose for himself. Yeah, that's like three paragraphs. That's weird. It's a good scene. All right, a gigantic season is afoot, guys. Talk to me a little bit about this is going to be in two different batches, 16 episodes.

As epic as we've gotten in Outlander, fair to say? As epic. I think so I mean obviously season one is such a like that was epic and that was the beginning and we were sort of laying

the foundation of everything that came after it but I don't know this this feels different right yeah really amazing it's jam packed

there's so much that's going on and I think every season you know there's this big drama big issues here but this one really is very full and I think we're very proud of it aren't we we're excited if you

Yeah, there's a lot of intertwining stories, a lot of concurrent timelines, that kind of stuff, and it just feels like very expansive, and I think people are going to be happy. I hope. Better be happy. We're in a moment going to bring out two of your friends, two of our friends, to join us on stage to diffuse the tension up here. Adult William joining the cast this time. Yes, yes. Charles. I sent in my tape.

I didn't get a call back. Thanks for nothing. They said it was too sexy. Whatever. Next time, I guess. There's always the prequel show. Yeah. You've never done me a favorite.

Dad. Exactly. So how does Jamie handle seeing adult William? Or does he? Or does he? I mean, look, let's face it. It's out. I guess he probably will, maybe.

Maybe he will. It's a really interesting storyline, and I think another, I guess, love story, an unrequited love and one that Jamie wishes he could be part of his life. And I can't try and talk around spoilers here, but it becomes quite a strong story. They won't tell anyone. They're not going to tell anyone. 900 close friends. I just know Meryl's here and the writers are getting in trouble. But yes, there's some great stuff between Jamie.

Do we, do we end on a cliffhanger in the first batch of episodes? Or, like, what can you say about... Oh, it's a... Maril? I don't know. You're executive producers, you can say. Well, no, but I think when we were filming it, we didn't know that they were going to split it, so...

Okay. Yes. Oh, my. I'll say a whole... Homecoming. Who's home? I don't know. I would say the next two folks are going to save us from this insanity, but I feel like the insanity is going to go up a little bit more.

Well, Richard is coming out. Yeah, exactly. Sophie, she'll be good. Richard, this guy? I don't know. Another amazing set of actors and an amazing couple with zero issues on the show. please give a warm New York welcome to Sophie Skeleton and Richard Rankin, everybody. Yeah.

Oh, we go to. Hi. Thank you. We actually only hear as an intervention we are here to mediate and counsel. So guys if you want to argue about texting

Yeah How's my texting guys? Well that's a good point I don't know I sent you on four weeks ago When I'm still waiting on a reply I've never ever met someone That just doesn't reply To be fair I did attempt to send you a voice note

The other day and I had my earphones and Katrina was like I can't hear a word you're saying You didn't know you sent it and I was trying to listen And all I could hear is you're welcome Are you a voice note? I love a voice note I love a voice note back

So let's talk about Outlander Katrina you get a pretty quick response But Sophie you get nothing Okay all right I was trying to improve the situation Not make it worse Sophie's bad Great

It's beautiful Which a couple has more drama This season guys How are you guys doing This year How are you guys doing? like personally or like in the show on an off screen how long have you got Josh um do you know what this is the first time that I think we actually see Brianna and Roger is a like a solidified couple

there's kind of external forces weighing on them but they're handling it like a team for the first time so they're not without drama but in terms of the relationship it's pretty drama free it's a nice place to be they're a team they're a good team that's right yeah but you guys together which is and, you know, I won't, well, I won't say anything. And I assume, again, judging from the past, and Brianna's pregnant, I assume a nice normal, stable, happy, easy pregnancy to come. Yeah, which is, you know, that's the thing. I mean, obviously her first pregnancy wasn't under ideal circumstances.

And now that she's had a baby in the past, she is a little bit more aware of the difficulties in dangers. And this time she has a family around us. Yeah, it's a family affair. It's like, we've got an audience. We're all in the room. Which is like something every woman just loves, right? Yeah. And it was, you know, it was bad enough

and they put it in the trailer as well. Who wouldn't want me and Sam catching about? I know, I think we're quite helpful. I thought we weren't very helpful. So, okay, so Katrina was being good and serious. You'll be right. What more could you want? I'm saying it's a beautiful moment having the whole family there,

which it was. But also I've done a lot of research on noises that women make when they give birth. And so my YouTube history has a lot of weird shit on it. But anyway, so I was making like these very animalistic... I was making like these animalistic groans. And then these two decided like come take 20 and onwards that they would give me a different animal for each take.

So like, this time be a frog. Yeah. It's called inspiration. Yeah. You're a distressed goat. Go! I think it was screaming goat, but, you know. Screaming goat was a good one.

Distressed girl, that was it. Are you going to do one for us now? Thanks, Katrina, for keeping it, you know, keeping it real, because it was difficult. I don't know how much you've been drinking, but how's your distressed goat right now? Yeah, any good? I have not had enough alcohol for that, but nice trying. Yeah. How's yours?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like you're trying to squeeze a pee out of a large mouth. Try a different fruit or vegetable. Yeah. I mean, all respect to it, though. I mean

Chyboss I don't It's not No do way Wow how very woke of you I've said it How's the hair this year

Richard Who did you bribe To get shorter hair Are you Are you happy with The hair choices this year Oh we went From Chowbuff to hair

Yeah I mean I like not well in the wig Yeah You've got good hair Thanks mate Thank you Thank you

A cheer For Richard Rankin's hair, everybody. But it gives you more time in the morning, doesn't it? It gives me much more time. What do you do with that time in the morning? Sleep. Yeah. He does actually, well, you do your runs as well.

He comes in quite smug. He's like, you had it a 5K and had a lion. I'm like, cool, I've been here for two hours getting my wig on. Yeah, no, a lot of times saved not wearing a wig in the morning, yeah. But you know what? The funny thing is I spent such a long time growing my hair for the show, so I didn't have to wear a wig. And then they cut it all off.

I think we've all... It took me like three years to go and I was like, oh my God, I've achieved that I'm in the position where I don't have to wear a wig and just have my own hair. And then Marl came up to me one day and says, how do you feel about cutting all your hair off? And I was like, I mean, okay.

To be fair. We said that like I don't have a choice. We've all had our fair share of hair trauma on this show, haven't we? Didn't you have your perm? Didn't they perm your hair? I had a few perms. Yeah, you had some perms. You had some perms. You had a, you had your own situation, you had a few perms too? Yeah, I've had a perm. Yeah, mine, yeah, went horribly wrong.

It went through purple to straw-colored. Oh, you got purple too for a while. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, I did go both. Yeah, yeah. There's so many things I want to say that I'm not saying. But we're okay. So now you're in, you're in now.

It's all of us. Again, this feels like a group. Now it's a group hair therapy session. Is this how you saw this going tonight, Josh? Is this what you hoped for? We were never on track. Why back on track? Is this all you dreamed of having the Outlander cast on?

This is going perfectly, as far as I'm concerned. This is exactly what I want. Because I rehearsed all the questions, as I told you. I imagined everything that could be talked about and asked, and I rehearsed them all and asked them all in my bedroom. And it didn't go like this. Let me give you a situation that is all too familiar to all of us. You have some kind of symptom that is bothering you.

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Season 9 is my favorite. Season 9? Yeah, I can't... No, no, one's told Richard. No, episode 9, season 7, episode 9. Season 9. Wait. I hate to break it to me, but you're out of work next year, hon. Season 9's a different thing. It's when the hair comes back.

They've promised me it's all my character in season 9. Yeah, it's all you. It's all you. No, episode nine, and that's obviously going to be on the second half. I can't talk about it. It's much further down the line. It's a convenient answer. Yeah. My favorite, though. What do you want me to say? Oh, it's great. My favorite episode?

You want me to change it for you? No, no. This is why I don't ask real questions, because I ask a real question. I can't get a real answer. That was as real as they come. L.B. wants to know. Would any of you be friends with your friends with your friends? character in real life? Oh. Would you? With jokes like that?

That is so loaded. Deflection, wow. Claire would be a great hang. Claire would be fun. Yeah, she would be fun. Yeah. Definitely fun. She's got her ether.

She likes a drink. Yeah, she's wails on ether. She knows how to make a martini. Yeah. It's fun. Claire. She'd be great. Rihanna just turns out.

with a snake fang? Like, yeah, let's get the party started. I think I'd get on me, I don't think Roger would like me much. I'd go on with a guy. I feel like Roger would be the guy in the corner of the party telling you where the word originated from in the Latin. Yeah.

Yeah. He would be, yeah. He's often, I think he's known as the killer of parties. Yeah. Yeah. Which is great if you want to close the party down. Yeah. Yeah. Send them in.

Get Roger in. Send them right in there. Only he runs into Claire. She's still trying to keep it going with you. Then she keeps you going with Samantha and some uppers and downers. Jamie's making whiskey at the back. Jamie's dad dancing. Bree's bringing the match to them.

Telling jokes, I think. Gianna's making goat noises in the corner. I don't know what her deal is, but leave her alone. The goat noises. What about you, Sam? Wow, I need to see this party. I can't wait for the premier party tomorrow.

You're all invited. You know what? We're going to, yeah. We're going to walk fast the bar tomorrow and all just say Richard, like, did you know the word martini comes from the Latin? I think it is actually Latin. Martinei. Martinez.

Did you have an answer, Sam, about being friends with Jamie? What was the question? Oh, my God. How many drinks did you have backstage? None. Would you be friends with Jamie in real life? Would I be friends with him? Sure.

It's not a trial. Again, I don't know if you'd like me. You know, they'd lift a few weights and talk about. How much did you bench today? Yeah, we would probably work out. Maybe we would, yeah, we'd go for a drink. But he likes chess. I mean, he's a tactician, you know, and I'm not very good at chess.

He'd be a good security guard, though. You could do it with that on a night out. Jamie would be a good security guy. Yeah, he'd have your back. He would have your bike. Yeah. But isn't he like 65? But he looks good for it.

What's wrong with 65 year old? He does. He does look good for it. 55. Is he 55? I don't know. Literally, every friendship is broken tonight between all of you. All right, let's play a little game, guys.

Oh, great. All right, let's combine two of our favorite activities surrounding Outlander, rumors and drinking. Whatever is in your cup works, whether it's alcohol or not, I'm going to say a potential rumor about an upcoming episode or season, and you can either confirm the rumor or drink. Okay? So, for instance... This is a dangerous game for it.

Yeah, as long as it's not season nine. Then I can do it. Just saying, there's a line. I know the producers in the audience. I need to draw that one. You're in so much trouble. I know, I know. There will be

time travel this season on Outlander. And what is it that I do again? In your case, just drink, I think. Just drink. Just drink. Slanger. Anyone care to comment on that?

No. Okay, fair enough. Jamie can't, so I can't answer. that's convenient. Katrina? Katrina? Okay, we'll move on. Our beloved old friend,

Graham McTavish will return, make an appearance. Yes. Yes. I mean, they announced that. Well, maybe his avatar, his AI does. Yeah.

Because we shot another episode of Men and Kiltz, which comes out, August 11th. which will air after the first half of Outlander he kind of might not survive that I haven't heard a lot from him lately no he's going to be very quiet hasn't he so yeah his AI is really good though well

rest in peace Gary McTavish Fraser's Ridge will burn down this season the whole ridge what? I don't know I'm just saying stuff I'm not telling you How did they get hold of matches to then town the rich? Those are just some really nice matches at Brie made, thanks Brie.

Wait, who got the matches? Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to come back in time to save you and then invent something that might contribute to. Oh yeah, thanks, Bree. Oops. If only we had known they died in a fire. If only someone had told us, then you maybe wouldn't have invented matches and you wouldn't be fired.

fucking about with Ethel. Wait, I'm so sorry. Hang on. Why aren't you fucking about with ether? I was medication, okay? Self-medication, yes.

One of you will join Lizzie's thruffle this season. And is it if we do do that or if we want to do that? Like, what is the deal? This party's getting really wild. Yeah. Welcome to Fraser's rich. There's certain times you kind of go, Diana, what?

Okay. By the end of the series, we'll finally get an answer about Jamie's ghosts. Jamie's goat. Yes. screaming goat. Jamie's goats, yes. You briefly see Jamie's goat at the beginning of season one. Yes. And then

he channels them, and then by the end of the season we find out. They climb trees and Graham McTavish just comes along the screen riding a goat. Jamie's ghost. Sorry? What are you completing a thought?

I'm not drinking for a reason other than I'm an alcoholic. I can hear you. They're like, she's drinking. It means something. She's drinking. Who said it's Jamie's ghost? Who said? Who said?

Who said? Diana. You've said it so many times. Did I? Yeah, we've all said it. Jamie has a ghost. It's a ghost. I feel like there are the four of us, and then there's Richard in his own talk over here.

So the show's called outlander. Tell me more. Yeah. Outlander's ending with season eight. That's not what I held. Just saying, Josh. I have a fact checker. It's a spin-off called Roger's wig.

Revenge of Jamie's goat. Oh, wow. I mean, if the writers are on strike, I think we can just... Written and directed by Richard Rankin, all by himself. This is how AI used to work. Yes, yes. Written by chat GPT.

Your fans are very creative. They've created some amazing memes over the years. Let's take a look at some and let's rate them. One to five Sassanax. How do you rate these memes? Amazing. Let's take a look at the first one, please. There we go.

For the benefit of those just listening to this podcast There's some dude Some dude on a rock saying Sam, what is he saying? I'll have a scotch on the rocks What do we think? Hold on a minute, hold on a minute If he's saying that It's whiskey.

That's a bit weird. Ooh. Yeah. I think it's somebody looking at that. going. I'll have a scotch on the rocks. Oh, okay. Thank you. You're right. I mean, you got to say it. You ready? One, two, three. Sassadak. Full Sassadak. There you go. I think that gets five. Let's go to the next one.

Oh. That's good. That's good. Who wants to read that one? I approve of this message. So that one, Katrina, do you want to do the honors? How does that one go? Wherever Claire goes, there's the whiskey float. Yes, yes. It's the smiley face.

Has she ever given you that look in real life? I've seen that look a few times. The whiskey had flowed. Let's go to the next one, please. Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah. Richard, would you like to do the honors read that one for me?

It says MVB, most valuable bookworm. Accurate? It's a festive one with a Santa's hat. There's a Santa's hat in there. Ironically, that's the best part of the meme is Brianna and a Santa's hat, but, you know, the rest of it's cool. Okay, let's go to the next one, please.

Sophie, would you like to do the honors? I love you, except when I don't. I've probably said... Do you want to know something interesting about this picture? No. You don't like the resolution? What don't you like? Is what?

What? What? Everyone here is drunk right now. Let's go to the next one. I'm intrigued to see if anyone's actually ever sent that to anyone. It's kind of sad. Who wants to read that one? Who needs a James?

Who needs a James blonde? You can have a Jamie Fraser. I don't think I can... Yes, exactly. That's a good one. I feel like MI6 is the answer. Yeah. Right.

I mean, if you're going very literal, sure. That would be a good meme, MI6 is the answer. Huh? That would be a good meme. Yeah, that would be actually. No side conversations. Next one, please. Yeah.

Yeah. That's five Sassan Acts right there, right? That's very good. Guys, in a world full of Kardashians... I would never be mean and read that eye, but whoever made that, yeah. Yeah. I'll say it.

In a world full of Kardashians, be a clear. Fraser, everybody. Come on. I think that's our last one. We should start a wave on that one, and everyone send it to one person tonight, and we'll get that circulated. Next challenge. You ready, guys? Yes.

Are you, though? Okay. You've all had some memorable, wonderful lines on the show over the years. I've got four of them in this lovely, tartan, themed hat. Pick a line that's not your own, and let's see how your interpretation. of the line fares with your co-stars. Oh, God. Okay. If it's your own line, you can't do it.

Do we have to do an accent? No, you can do whatever you like. I'm not going to force you. Do you have to wear the hat while you can't say it? Well, Richard will be last, so I'm pretty sure it's going to end up on his head. I mean, of course I would pick this one. Here we go. Lord. It's a good one.

You gave me a rare woman. And God, I love her well. Wow. I feel like stars might pick this one up. Now that's acting. That's good. That's a new show. Well done.

Pass it on. Give me the bonnet. Drum roll. Not your own one. The thing is, Sam's not going to remember whether it's his or not. It says it on there. Whoa. On your feet, soldier.

Take me. Take me. Take me. the back to Lallybrook. Take me back to Lalibrook. Do you write this? That is true. Is there a typo? Yeah.

Oh, it's my eyes. That's my eyes. Good. Woo. Shocking. Oh, I got my own. Take a dog. Take the other one.

Should I just valley go all the shit? No, no, do the other one, too. Oh, Valley Girl, yeah. I'll volleyball it for Richard because he loves a Volley Girl accent anyway. Really? Ready? Okay, yeah.

Brianna? I love you all, or not at all? Oh. Thanks for that. You're so welcome. You okay over there? Do you want me to help you read it? I was rehearsing in my head.

Oh my gosh. You gave Jamie up for me. Now I have to give him back to you. What? I don't know what that means. I don't know what I'm talking. about, but you said it. Yeah, that was to Claire.

Oh. Now it makes sense. Yeah. Oh, man. Getting back on track, there was never a track. Guys, the finish line is sadly in sight. I mean, we got a ways to go. We haven't even shot a frame of the last season.

But have you started to reckon with this? When you step away from these characters for the last time, What's that feeling going to feel like have you anticipated what that feeling is going to be? Is it going to be? Relief, satisfaction, guttural sobbing. What what happens when you have to step away from this experience after all that it's given you? I know it's a semi-serious question. I apologize Like we started talking about this for EPK You know, when we were doing stuff for the DVD for this season that we're doing and we started getting choked up, didn't we? I don't know.

Look, this show has given us everything, given us our careers, given us so much in our lives. We have been embraced by you guys. You guys have created this insane community that is so incredible. We're honored and privileged that we get to spend time with you guys

and I don't know, like it's a 10-year journey we've been on. It's going to be more than that by the time we finish. It's going to be really, really hard to say goodbye. I don't know, yeah, probably a lot of guttural sobbing. And goats, yeah. But we'll still send each of the voice notes, won't we? But no, I think, just to back that up,

I think, you know, honestly, we felt tangible at the end, filming at the end of this season, and we realize we're only going to come back and do it once more. But having said that, I think in this moment, we've got so much to look forward to. I'm really excited about you guys seeing this season. And then we get the opportunity to come back and really finish it in a satisfactory way, a way that may not please everyone,

but at least we get a chance to come back and really feel that we finish the story. And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to finish this story. It's been such a part of my life. So thank you for being on it. We still have a little way to go. Yeah. One

one thing I do want to mention that's been made public recently that I'm sure everyone here is very excited about is you're going to be directing an episode of season eight. So I've heard you've done some second unit directing already in season seven. Yes, I had the absolute

pleasure of doing a scene with Sof, and then John Bell and this horrible actress, Katrina Balfe and Izzy and Joey and Charles so yeah look I I couldn't be more grateful to the writers the producers and I've wanted to do this for a very long time to do it with these guys it was incredible working with Sophie and I just yeah it's a really exciting opportunity I'm terrified but I'm terrified in a good way and I get to do it

in a place where I feel really safe with a bunch of people that I love so much and hopefully they'll all be really nice to me. It was your favorite? No, this is going to have the most lines Katrina. No, you're going to absolutely smash that.

You will. Absolutely smashed it. I have no doubt. You're going to be a good Sam. You're going to be a good actor. You're going to be nice. He's already told me he's only going to do one. takes, and that's all I'm going to give him. She's getting one acting and I'm done. No, no, no, you're only going to get one take.

We also have a little understanding where we're going to get better trailers, more snacks. Like, you are a child, you're literally a child. And inflatable toys, right? No, I'm really... You're like you've been taking notes of Jemmy. He's like, I'm doing one acting and I'm done. Yeah, that kid's got it. Right, he's, must be to his agent, actually.

Are you taking your acting bloominies? They also get Harrowe whenever they do a good take, so. But no, in all seriousness, I think I'm really excited for Katrina to do this, and I think, you know, she, what a better place to do it as well, right? Surrounded by people that she knows and loves, and we want to support her as well, so let's do this, one acting. No, I feel lucky I already got a taster of it, and we had a beautiful scene, didn't we, where it's Brianna being very motherly toward Jemmy, and then it was so nice,

to always have it passed down the generations, because having you on set was like having Claire and you and Kat's always super modest but she was incredible that day it was a tough scene it's a long scene and you knocked it out of the park and then she had to direct herself

in a scene so can we just applaud that please wait wait did you give yourself any notes that balf is a nightmare yeah do it better it's a very

like that's the thing that's very tough to you know it's such a new skill and it's you know Anybody who directs himself in something, I have such admiration for them because you want to put all your attention into watching and splitting that attention is hard.

But, you know, I have the full support. Matt was on set when I was doing that, and he was my eyes. And yeah, it's been fun. We're all excited for you, and we're very excited that Richard's going to be directing three episodes of season nine. We weren't supposed to be talking about that, but yeah.

I'm going to be shadowing and Jamie Amazing, yeah One Man Outlander Some more questions from our Our audience LOL to Linda wants to know What do you hope envision the final scene

Of season 8 to be? Have you even wrapped your brain around What literally the end is going to be Or have you talked to the writers, et cetera? I mean I I don't think we have I don't think we really know where it's going to go but I think everyone's going to have ideas, right?

And we'll all want to pitch them. But I guess how do you end a story like this? Diana has it in her head, obviously, and we'll never be able to do everything that she's written. So hopefully we can come to some sort of satisfactory ending that rewards everyone for watching and for working on this for such long time. But God, I think they all die in like that.

It's going to say it's, yeah. An apocalypse. Sorry? What was that last part? Sorry, they all die. Yeah, in a big courage... It's Outlander, we're going to tear your hearts out. They all die, and it's like bad.

It's bad. I'm on the opposing side of this argument. And, yeah, it's pretty horrific. Oh. Oh, well, yeah. Or it was all a dream. All a dream. It was all a dream.

Cleo wakes up. Oh, that's good. She's still on the war. No. Vito, veto. It'll just be all of our ghosts staring up at a window, happily. Maybe just, yeah, Claire's had too much ether.

O.L. Fanvids wants to know, Katrina, are there any scenes or storylines throughout the seven seasons you wish you could do again or change? Do you think back to, like, another crack in that one? I mean, I'm sure. You're an actor, so yes. There's many that I'm like, God, damn it. You know, you leave the set, and you're on the way home,

and you're like, oh, that's what that was about. Now I have it. Yeah, it's the most, you know, it's a typical actor thing. But, you know, I think you just, you know, I think you have to leave it on set. Yeah. Jamie wants to know what's seen in all the years you've done outlander has made you feel the most vulnerable thus far. Well, I mean. I'm a murmur through the crowd.

I think, you know, a few of us have handled some sensitive topics on the show in terms of sexual abuse and things like that, which obviously puts you in a very vulnerable headspace. But, you know, it also puts you in a very strong headspace in that we watch these characters go through these awful unspeakable things and there's a light at the end of the tunnel and hopefully we can show people having gone through something similar that you can find strength again and that you can get to the end of it.

So it's kind of bittersweet. Julie from Milwaukee in our audience today wants to know. This show takes us to many beautiful and historic places. I would love to know which location was your favorite to film at and which was the most challenging. Anything jump out, guys? One of the most challenging days

I had was, I mean, this is something that we run into all the time. It was particularly cold. One day, I had to film a scene by the stones and I had to be lying on the ground. It was like minus 11. And I have never ever been so cold. Either before or after, I was freezing to the very bone. It was horrific. We had to do it over and over and over and over again. It's basically just to be lying by this.

Nothing to be even particularly interesting. It was... They weren't even filming it. Richard, go, lie down. It was for Outland or C. Where'd everybody go? I think for nine. Well, that was, that was, that was, that was hard.

Yeah, there weren't any cameras or anything. I just went there. Wait a second, Richard. Yeah. Did you have something saying or no? Location-wise, ah, damn, there's so many. And I think we always talk about the stone circle, Shahalian, in Loch Rannach, there's something very magical about it.

But it's been different this last few seasons, because obviously it's doubling for America. And this year, this season, we went actually down south to England. Sassanachia. the land of the sassanacs and we went to Liverpool they've got very strange accents there but we shot for for Boston

I think it was in the street and it was fantastic it was really cool to go to Philadelphia what's that sentence into the gentleman What's that sorry? Philadelphia Oh Philadelphia It's America It's all the same

over here, yeah. Oh, yeah, Boston was season two. Boston's way you draw us from, bro. In Boston. Actually, wasn't in Boston. Another audience member wants to know, and we've heard the Valley Girl tonight. Sophie has a convincing American accent.

How about Katrina, Sam, and Richard? Who's got the second best? I already did, me. That's true, you did. You did. So... Well, it depends what part of America come from. Oh, no. Yeah, it depends if you're from Dublin.

You all look like very friendly people. You're okay over there? Sorry. I think I'm back in Boston. Was it Philadelphia? Oh my God, I mean the smoke in New York, you know what I'm saying? It's killed his voice. I don't know what's happened.

It's like he smoked 20 cigarettes in like five seconds, you know? That's great. That's great. That's great. Oh, my lord. Jody wants to know if you were stranded on a desert island with any cast member, who would you pick? Oh, that's mean. Take it up with Jody, not me.

Rolo. Pass member or... I'm going to pick Rolo. Let's keep this fair. I was going to pick you, Sophie. Well, I was trying, okay. But yeah, I'm going to say something really... I might go with Sophie.

So, oh no, it's not going to... It's not going to... What? I'm going to go with... Wow. Wow. That's only because he knows that I would have Taylor Swift playing.

Richard, you want to... Yeah, I'll hang out on an island with you. Yeah, we'll be a nice time. We'll be on the island next door. No, no. Keep your island. You've made your decision. Major choice.

I hope your island is fruitful and happy. It won't be as fun as ours. We'll have ether. History shots. You know I always got the good stuff. Oh, I know. I know. There's going to be no season eight, by the way. You don't do therapy sessions for four, do you?

What a way to go out, though. Adrian wants to know, we've gotten a taste of this all right tonight. What character, Nautlander, would you like to play other than your own? Again, Rollo. somebody should anyone else I think blackjack would be super cool is that really messed up of me

I should unpack some of that I think the bad guys yeah so when you step away last again not to not to linger on the end do you think that's closing the door forever is it like healthy for you as an actor

to think about it that way Or could you imagine coming back in another incarnation down the road? Like Claire and Jamie are like 95 at this point. Exactly, exactly. I don't know. Never say never, Josh. Who knows? I'm trying to give them hope.

There's hope. Okay. It's time travel. Exactly. There's always flashbacks, maybe flash forwards. Who knows? I mean, unless the writers kill us all, I don't know. Right.

Oh, they only bleed to death at the end. Then there's also the potential Outlander multiverse. Because that's quite popular at the moment, a multiverse. Everyone has a multiverse. Yeah. We could have one. Oh, wow. Anything could happen.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. It's a great idea. There has been talk about it. I don't know if I should spoil that. There's been talk about it, what, between Richard and Richard.

Yeah, I think it would be great. The same guy that told me about the ninth season has been talking about it. Oh, golly. All right. Let's end with this. Mr. Claire Fraser wants to know. Can you name each other's hidden talents?

What would you say? Your friends, your co-stars, your former friends here, what's the hidden talent that you admire in each other? Mr. Claire Fraser. I want to hang with him I don't know that any of these are so hidden Amazing

They wouldn't be very well Photographer Amazing photographer Slash Video game player Love a video game Yeah I'm very good at them Sof, amazing dancer

slash singer Singer Thanks Thanks Sam amazing Worky outy person slash lifty upy person does a great pull-up

likes alcohol Katrina, director extraordinaire director, amazing New Yorker yeah does blonde really well I don't know if anyone does it What do we think of the blonde? Look at this amazing blonde hair

And also because again Katrina doesn't give herself enough credit But again, Ave Maria I think there's definitely some auto tune went on Season 8 all musical Musical Outlander

Do you know what we were saying earlier actually A musical episode There's definitely room for one musical ep You know when a good TV show just pats out with a random musical episode that's usually really great Like they do it? Well, I think so that's season nine

but I realize that I'm very much over here with my own opinion right for a large part of this there's a trapdoor over there that you're going to exit out of I'll say no more again

season nine musicals all happening musical episodes it saddens me to no end to say that we're coming towards the end of this guys before the groans

I do want to say in all honesty I adore this cast. They're amazing. You guys have been so awesome to me and to the fans. Season 7 of Outlander, as if you didn't know,

coming to stars, check it out. Please give it up for Richard Rankin. You guys are the best. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, John.

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