Happy Sad Confused - Reese Witherspoon & Will Ferrell
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Happy, sad, confused begins now.
Hey, guys, it's Josh here.
Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused.
We've got not one but two megastars who have never been on the podcast before.
So excited to say that, yes, Reese Withers,
and Will Ferrell on Happy Said Confused at last.
It only took about 11 years to have them on the show,
but better late than never.
They're always welcome,
and hopefully it won't be another 11 before they're back.
That's coming up as the main event today on Happy, Sad, Confused.
Other things I want to mention, no events to plug right now,
but there's always stuff around the corner.
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in fits and starts. I got a chance to see Hugh Jackman do his thing at Radio City Music Hall.
And look, we all know, I think we all know by now, that not only can Hugh Jackman be the
ultimate hero, anti-hero in Wolverine, badass Wolverine on screen, but he's a song and dance man at heart,
and he's so good at it. And I've been lucky enough to see him on stage.
and a number of different incarnations over the years.
And I just want to say, not that he needs a plug from me,
but his latest show is fantastic,
and it's kind of an old-school,
big kind of Hollywood throwback of a theatrical experience.
He sings a lot of greatest showmen and some music men,
and on the show I saw Neil Diamond,
Ryan Reynolds was at the show I'm at?
I'm not sure if that's always going to be part of the proceedings,
but that was fun.
So the good news is,
like I said, it's not like one small run.
He's actually playing, I think, a bunch of weekends throughout the year at Radio City
Music Hall.
So if you're in New York, if you're planning a trip to New York, look it up.
That's my unsolicited plug for a guy I've gotten a chance to do a lot with over the years,
including Happy Seg Infused, look it up probably a long time ago now.
So he's another one overdue.
Okay, let's talk about Will Ferrell and Reese Witherspoon.
So as I said, they have never been on the podcast, and that's kind of surprising.
only because their careers have definitely coincided with my run
at Happy Sank Infused and also my run at MTV.
I have done a ton with these guys.
They are so charming, so professional.
I mean, this is not news to anybody that's watched these two
with their lives over the last 25 years.
But I was so thrilled to have them on the show together.
They are promoting a very funny new comedy,
kind of, again, a throwback of a rom-com that really worked for me.
it's on prime at the end of this week as you if you're listening to this as we drop it
um i'm sure this is going to be the kind of movie that gets a gazillion views because it is so
watchable and so fun and like i said kind of like checks that box of that rom-com that we haven't
seen done well i will say a lot in recent years and it's no surprise because it's written and
directed i should say by nick stoller who's done a lot of really good stuff um and it's kind of a silly
fun premise where it's two families have both booked the same locale for a wedding and unbeknownst
to each other and then they have to kind of make figure it all out together. I laughed a lot and
related to the characters and just had a blast. So you're cordially invited. I haven't even
said the name of the film. That's the name of the movie. You're cordially invited. It's on prime
video. Check it out. I'm sure you'll want to after you watch or listen to this conversation with
Reese and Will.
This is, sometimes these combo interviews can be challenging.
In this case, this was such an easy, fun one because they're so willing to go to different
places.
We talk a lot about different parts of their career, you know, notable performances from
elf and old school to election, cruel intentions.
We cover a lot in this.
So I'm really happy with how it went, and I think you're going to have a blast if you have
half as much fun watching or listening
to this as I did in the room with them
the admission accomplished.
So, enjoy this.
Oh, wait, disclaimer.
And this is one of those shitty disclaimers.
The audio.
I know.
You guys are going to roast me in the comments
or what I can't.
I can only do so much.
Reese's mic, we had some trouble with.
We didn't realize it.
It was really crappy, really crappy audio.
So the crack team
and happy say I confused is going to do our best.
and post, it's definitely
listenable, watchable,
it's okay, but it's not
the best quality. So apologies,
apologies, apologies, do the
best we can. Sometimes we come up
short, so
don't roast me in the comments, guys. We're
trying, okay? I'm giving you Will Ferrell
and Reese Withersman for free. What can I
tell you? Okay.
Enjoy this. Check out their
movie on Prime. You're cordially invited.
And if you are so inclined, look up
Q Jackman's show at Radio City.
Thanks for a fun night out with the fam.
A costly night out.
But it's worth it.
It's you, Jackman.
Okay, here's me and Reese and Will.
Look, guys, there's no official introduction except to say we're killing two birds
with one stone because neither of you have ever done the podcast before.
And this is long overdue, Reese, Will, congratulations.
You're cordially invited.
Oh, I thought you were going to say congratulated on doing the podcast.
Well, that too, obviously.
That's the major congrats in the air right now.
Yeah. No, the film is fantastic. Congratulations, guys.
This movie has everything. It's got two of our greatest stars. It's got a great premise. It's got Will hugging an alligator on the poster. This is the ultimate. Yes. Fair enough? Yeah. That might be my favorite poster. It's a really weird, funny poster. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Talk to me. When you hear a good premise for a film, do you know? Like, do you know, like, this has the ingredients.
for something that's going to sustain an entire narrative.
Because there's a funny core idea at the heart of this one, obviously.
I mean, here's the thing.
Nick Stoller, writer-director Nick Storer has a pretty good track record.
And this just seemed like it'd be fun.
Whether it'd turn out any good, you never know.
But then you add America's sweetheart here.
All bets are off.
That's official.
That's official.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's official.
You're both kind of America's sweethearts, though.
He's really America's sweetheart.
Let's get real.
You should fight to the death over this honor right here and now.
Over the crown, the sweetheart crown.
Are you guys, so this, look, the premise at its core, two weddings, one venue, double-booked nightmare scenario.
Are you guys, are you guys good wedding guests?
I'm an ex.
I mean, I'm top-rated.
Well, no, you know.
In, just only in the domestic U.S., though.
It falls off.
Now, my rating's really low there.
Do you...
Reese, from hearing her talk about herself, gets up, she participates.
You're in it.
She's on the dance floor.
I'm on the dance floor, right?
First on the dance floor, last off.
I'm giving meaningful toasts.
Yes.
I am hugging people in a deep, heartfelt way.
I'm telling everyone they feel loved.
They are loved and cared for.
Yeah.
what's what's the song that is best to play at a wedding to ensure folks getting up on the dance floor
provocative i know yeah um well what's um it's i mean it's always it's a fan favorite uh i'm
forget but a little bit louder now oh what's it's sorry the audio's not coming through what
A look.
The, the, the, from Animal House.
No, from Animal House.
All our brains are liquefying.
I'm sorry.
I don't have it.
Hey, hey, shout.
Shout.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
That'll get people up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No.
Okay.
Whatever.
I only danced one song at my own wedding.
What?
You're just not a dancer?
I'm not a dancer.
Okay.
No.
Shame on you.
Yeah.
Was your wife just in the worst mood?
She has been for the last nearly 20 years.
Yeah.
No, it just, it's not, I can't do it.
I can't do it.
Because you're embarrassed?
Yeah.
Oh, but no one's judging.
I mean, they are.
Everyone's like, it's so sweet.
He's a terrible dancer.
Yeah, okay.
The next wedding I'll get it right.
No, no.
Renew your vows and dance the night away.
I always worry about the renewing of vows thing.
Where do we come down?
on that. It's a little over compensation. Is it a little showy off? Yeah. I have no
judgment. Okay. Your face is saying something. There are some who renew it every year.
Renew it every year. Right. That's a whole. Or take, yeah. Right. Well, has done it three
times. I've renewed our vows multiple times. Right.
Was Vib there?
Vib.
Was that mutual?
I just pick a super romantic spot.
Yeah.
Remember.
And then do you just look at your wedding album?
Yes.
We're back.
We're doing it again.
It's not documented in anyone.
I think the best wedding song is We Are Family.
Oh, that's a great one.
It works.
Whether or not you like it or not, you're now a family.
Is it wrong to play We Are the Champions?
No.
I mean for the walk down.
Another one bites the dust.
Another one bites the dust.
There's a subtext there though.
I don't, yeah.
Okay, what's the other random things to talk about in relation to your wonderful movie?
I mentioned the alligator, working with animals.
You've both worked with animals.
There's just so many animals.
I think you both have like...
There's a joke in there.
There is.
And actual animals too, yeah.
Top-tier actors.
Are you comfortable riding a horse?
Oh, yeah.
Very. I've ridden a lot of horses in movies.
And I've ridden an elephant in a movie.
Oh my gosh. More than once.
Wait, for elephants? What's the other?
Maybe I did called Vanity Fair in India.
Sure.
I wrote an elephant.
Yep.
And I have worked with multiple dogs.
Yeah.
I'm a big dog. Like, it's so funny because people, because I've worked with so many dog trainers, I think I'm, like, just by osmosis.
Do you have one of those clickers?
She uses it for you, right?
I got to pay them.
I always have a clicker in my pocket.
I love when the animal trainer comes on,
like, I'm sorry, I got to pay him.
Yeah.
That's a terminology for giving the animal a treat.
Right, they do that with you too.
Yeah, I could be paid too.
Can I have one of those cheery?
You gotta stop, yeah, we gotta stop, they need to, yeah.
Is there something about being on a film set
that makes you do things that-
Is there a reason you wanted to ask about animals?
Well, because I think of the alligator.
I think of the alligator scene in this.
Because that was a real alligator?
I mean...
What do you think?
No, I don't think so.
I do remember...
I mean, it looks great.
Don't get me wrong.
Tell them to story about the alligator.
Tell me the story about the alligator.
Which one?
The one in your movie.
There was an animal trainer who sent a video
to try to convince our line producer
that we could use a real alligator.
What Ferrell could hold this is very docile.
She's very dossal.
And he's like...
And he's like...
Pulling it by the tail.
Right.
And he could do this.
And he could do that.
Meanwhile, as you see, if you see the scene, I'm thrashing about it.
There's no way that live alligator would have tolerated.
No.
Oh, we can make, we can make him real sleepy.
But what a way to go.
What a story it would be.
All in the service of great comedy.
I remember writing a donkey on SNL.
And during the dress rehearsal, the donkeys were so funny and they wouldn't
stay in one place and one started trying to like nuzzle Daryl Hammond's crotch.
Sure.
And then they, then they, they sedated them for the live show and the donkeys were almost falling
over while we're on their backs.
Huh.
Anyway.
I remember way that.
And that's a great story.
It is a good story.
That's a good story.
There you go.
They also got a camel stuck in a freight elevator once.
What are you talking about?
This is like the true life horror stories of Esenal.
This is not.
You can hear the camel bleeding down the hallway.
Ah-huh.
I do feel like there's like something that clicks at least in my brain on shoots, and
maybe it happens for you guys when you're shooting in a film, like that you do things you wouldn't
normally do because the cameras are on and you just sort of get sucked into the atmosphere.
One hundred percent.
Exactly.
And then once people start laughing, I can't stop.
Yeah.
You will grab that alligator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember, I don't know if you remember this, Rland of the Lost the way back when I was.
lost way back when we shot a promo where there was a giant albino python draped over our necks
will see this is how much you've done you don't even remember that i don't remember that but
i worked with that python that i'm not afraid of it's a great guy he's a great guy i'm not even kidding
i believe you yeah that can't be more than one right you're right yeah but no wait tell me what
you're going to say no i but i'm not that's not scary at all to me have you ever feared for your
wife working with an animal. The bears... Well, the bears in Anchorman. Right. I heard that was not
safe. In retrospect, maybe bad call. And we should have listened to the animal trainers
who kept saying that, oh yeah, yeah, the bear can do this, the bear can do that. Keep in mind,
it is a bear, which is like, I think it's like the release, the verbal release. And I'm good.
I'm absolved, like, oh, the bear will let you do this, bear, bear, keep in mind, though, it is a bear.
So basically, I'm still not responsible if anything happens.
You know it's bad when, like, a stunt person is like, God, I've worked with everything.
Bears, I just do not trust.
Okay, and action.
Get in there.
So.
Is the key to, segueing out of animals, some things you get to do in this film deliver drunken dialogues.
I've always heard this from actors.
The key to playing drunk, you're trying not to be drunk.
You're like actively like denying that you're drunk in the scene.
Is that on your mind when you're like kind of soaring your words a little bit but not overly so?
Ries?
I could reveal my secrets about how I play drunk, but then I'd have nothing left for my memoirs.
So, so smart.
So smart.
Yeah, it's gonna be multi-volume, yeah.
So I'm just gonna leave that.
No, I have played drunken movies before.
Let the work speak for.
right what's your secret to playing i mean i think is it is it analogous drunk to um getting shot with
the tranquilizer dart in old school is that's feel like in the same realm i that's my favorite
scene ever it is it is one of the greatest scenes in film cinema history right and when john
like was god goes you don't look all right man yeah yeah you're crazy
It's pretty great.
I'm so method.
Yes, we've heard that, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So I had them shoot me with a dart.
Whoa.
Just to see what it feel like.
That's not true.
How do you feel?
I didn't notice it at first.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
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What's the film of each other's that you've seen the most, do you think?
Election.
Talladeg nights. Or Elf. I mean, is there a human on Earth who hasn't seen Elf every Christmas?
No one they want to speak with, no, right?
There's a backlash, though. Did you hear about the backlash?
No. No. No.
starting my own backlash against him.
I don't know everything they say it is, guys.
Guys.
But have you watched it recently like that?
Have you watched it?
I mean, it is not.
All right.
Watch it again.
Watch it again.
And tell me, you don't find it.
You brought back Buddy recently at an NHL game.
No, Buddy just appeared.
You can't stop Buddy when Buddy wants out.
Buddy just wanted a night out.
Is there a moment of like pause when you were putting on the costume?
Like, oh no.
I was totally, I just knew we were going to be home for the winter break and we're season tickets to the L.A. Kings and we have these amazing seats that are right on the glass. And I literally said to Vib, like, you know, the one thing I want to do, I want to go to a Kings game. I want not shave for a week and get like some candy cigarette, get some fake cigarettes and just sit there as like a down and out buddy the elf and see what the reaction is.
That's it.
Mission accomplished.
Mission accomplished.
And your wife is just like, cool.
Yeah.
At this point, she's probably knows.
She's like, okay.
She's so used to everything now?
She's like, okay, what time do we need to be there?
Bye.
I'm like, honey, you can't laugh.
She's like, okay.
But like, where are we going to park?
Right.
Should we get snacks ahead of time?
She's very tall, aren't?
Would you ever go into character from your pantheon of wonderful roles,
of wonderful roles and put them out into the real world, go to a football game as L. Woods
just for shits and giggles. Not as. Probably not, right? That's a no.
Probably not. Probably not. That's a good.
Speaking of a buddy, how how fiercely have you had to defend not
doing a sequel over the years.
Oh my God, I want to hear this.
I would imagine the studio comes to you and Fabro
and everybody and says, guys, this is money waiting
to be cashed in.
There was a lot of movement after the film initially came out,
of which I maintained that it's going to be really hard
because it's a classic fish out of water story.
It's a perfect movie.
But prove me wrong.
And an attempt was made at a script, which
which, you know, tried its best, but I just was like, I don't know.
Yeah.
And I was offered a crazy amount of money.
But no, I just was, I was like, I have to be able to sit in a setting like this
and talk about the movie in a way that I feel good about.
And I was talking to, you know, my manager going, look, if I were to promote that movie,
I'd be literally saying, I did it for the money.
straight up and like do you want that messaging out there and yeah so and then they
tried a little bit later down the road right it just was there any concept that seemed insane
that seemed like no but but someone brought I think it was stoler in fact after seeing
that photo that I just did he's like oh maybe it's that buddy's down down but no one wants
to see that right
That would be hard to watch.
Yeah.
It would be sad for all of us to watch in that state.
Buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy's given up.
He refuses to.
No.
No, I can't see him without hope and joy.
Find a bathroom.
He just soils himself, you know?
Dark.
Dark.
Perfect for our times.
A buddy for 2025, yeah.
He just stinks?
Buddy, you stink.
Oh, yeah?
Give me a break.
You don't know what I've been through.
Oh, my God.
You're like, what are buddy's problem?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Nick Stoller would think of something really funny, though.
You would.
We're happy to leave it well enough alone.
I think it's a good call.
That being said, on the Tracy Flick side, and I spoke to Alexander Payne about this.
Okay, I don't think Will knows about this.
I mean, he's actively, they're scripting it, right?
I know.
I'm sure you're well involved in that.
It's based on a book by Tom Perada, and Tom Perada wrote a sequel probably two years ago,
and Alexander and Jim Taylor are adapting it.
Amazing.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
Are you...
It's hard for...
It was so hard reading the book
because I felt like...
I didn't feel like it was me
that I was reading about,
but it felt like one of my dearest friends
that I was reading what happened to her
and I didn't know what happened to her.
And I was so worried I kept putting it down the book.
And I was like, is she okay?
Yeah, right.
Is she had issues?
Like, you know, she has issues.
Like, you know, she has an issue.
But I don't have anything wrong with her,
but it was really tender.
It was, like, emotional
because I do feel so much tenderness for all these people because as many minutes is me
getting philosophical about comedy but you can't play the journey of a character like
mill woods or crazy flick without finding some sympathy at some essential part of their humanity
whether they feel extremely lonely or they're ambitious because they don't have a dad
and you know or there's just all sorts of stuff tied in it for me that they feel very
real and whole to me.
So anyway, it was really, it was great.
I had the novel, it's great.
Of course, Al-Gvianna Payne and Jim Taylor can just,
I just live every movie a day, so it's really fun.
Here's like a general point of commonality,
I feel like when I look at both your careers.
I feel like you both, you haven't followed kind of a playbook
that maybe others would set for you.
Like, you infamously, Buddy the Elf had an NHL game.
This is best example, Casa Demi, Pod.
Like, there are a thousand examples of what Will Ferrell has done that nobody in their right mind would say, do that.
And you, in a different way, I feel like I've obviously charted a very specific path true to you, your love of books, your love of specific projects.
Is that something that you feel like you must both take a certain pride in that, like, being true to yourselves over the years has borne out the careers we can talk about today as opposed to following what someone else had envisioned for.
for you.
Yeah.
I mean, I just have a very strange sense of humor, I think.
And what I think is funny is maybe not usually what other people think is funny.
And then also I get, I have like a more serious side.
Sometimes I want to do that kind of stuff.
And then, yeah, and I'm like you.
Like, I don't know.
It's, to me, it's about connecting and the group of people you're working with.
because as I gotten older, that's so paramount to the experience.
Right, it's just not worth it to work with people better.
I don't want to have a stressful experience.
I want to have, I also want to work with people who are incredibly talented like we can
play off each other and so that your experiences become more and more rare because that
group is very, yeah.
Yeah, I just, I just at a certain point had this thing.
I mean, it's kind of, it draws parallels with...
Saturday Night Live in that we would have these sketches, you know, you're lucky enough to have a sketch that's a recurring character that everyone, you know, like the cheerleaders and this thing that is like a hit. But then I also relish those what we'd call on the show the 10 to 1 sketches, which is they would air at 10 minutes to 1. It's the last sketch of the night. And it's usually an odd ball thing. And I loved writing those, you know, left of center.
kind of kind of things uh and i think that i just always loved indulging that part of my brain
and while i still had currency have currency in this business why not do a lifetime movie right
a movie entirely in spanish deadly dot yeah um but like let let's also do these quirky yeah
weird stuff to augment, you know, and I still love doing the poppier stuff in a way, but
yeah, lucky to be able to get to do all that.
Is there anything so weird beyond even what we've talked about that you haven't been able
to make it happen that the folks have said, that's even crazy by your standards.
We can't let you do that, Will.
There is a, there, I pray that we get to do it, but Harper Steel has written
this script that is so
frickin' funny. It's about coyotes
take over Los Angeles.
An actor told me that
Sam Rockwell told me about that. Yes.
And it's
almost
in a Omega Man
Charlton Heston kind
of scientist who like something's not
working right.
Because anyone who lives in Los Angeles, you see
coyotes live everywhere
and that they've now have a sophisticated
culture, and they've learned to speak.
Some of them know how to talk.
So it's kind of like Planet of the Hs Needs,
but it's coyotes, and it's so surrealist and absurd,
and yet heightened and dumb.
Yeah.
And, but Hollywood's in a weird state.
Like, we pitch it and it was like,
how realistic are the, is there a horror element to it?
I'm like, no.
Like, no one will touch it in a way.
That's so weird to me.
Especially after cocaine bear, which was so popular.
But they used that as an example that they said, even cocaine bear, though, when it, you know, it was gory.
It's gory, it's real gore.
But you don't want to have gore.
We don't want to have gore.
And if we have gore, we want it to be silly and, like, bad puppets.
We don't want realistic, like, we want it chintzy-smaltzy, lo-fi, bad movie.
Yeah, yeah.
camera effects right i love it we love it it'll happen so so i'll put up the money
is that what that was what that's what this was what the show is all take down the camera
yes how do you bring in the paper
we bring the paper i got a docu sign here here here and here dokey sign here and here okay
this one do either you're fine you are here and here fine wait how much is this movie
I don't know.
$200 million.
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Do either of you remember the last time you auditioned?
Does any part of you miss auditioning?
I had that fear feeling.
What I will say, and we were recently with this young person who said out,
who was very established who auditioned for their last movie.
And I thought, it was Ariana Grande talking about how she was auditioned for Rickin.
Right.
And I thought, I thought it was so great that she told that story because I do think, you
ego can really stop creativity.
You should feel afraid and you shouldn't just be guaranteed to get everything.
I auditioned for Tim Burton once I didn't get it, but I was glad I did it.
You know, I think he's amazing.
I think he's worthy of any kind of, you know, big effort to try and get the job.
I don't know.
I just think we're all just creative people trying to make the best decision.
Have you auditioned for things?
I'm afraid to...
No, you don't like auditioning.
No, no, I...
You're offer only.
Is that what you're trying to say?
I'm offer only.
Yeah, we've heard that.
No, the Saturday Night Live auditions are burned into my brain forever.
And yet it's the only way, I don't know...
I guess you can go and watch somewhere at a comedy club and do their stuff,
but there was something about the intensity of doing it in the studio where they shoot the show,
and Lauren...
Like a producer sitting in the shadows.
You might as well have been just smoking a cigarette,
seeing the ember of it.
But the empty studio, and there was a method to his madness.
He wanted to create the tension and the enormity
of what it feels like to do live television.
And it worked.
You were like kind of shaking going out there,
but then there was a part of you being creative people
where you had to just like,
this is so insane that now I'm not,
nervous because it's not going to happen. And you just fall back into what you know you can do.
Right. So I agree with Reese. It's an awful process, but it's the only process to go through.
Presumably you didn't have to audition for your singing part in this. I want to ruin anything for the audience, but there is some singing. There's a duet.
There is. Stick around guys. You're cordially invited. Did you know your delicious voices would meld so well?
I had no idea.
I hoped.
He's journal about it.
Yeah.
I try and point it.
I think Stoller and I were talking about it.
That'd be fun to do a duet at the end.
Well, was amazing.
He was in the booth, like, laying down tracks.
That was the first day.
Before we even started filming, right?
Yeah.
You both had wonderful musical moments throughout your career.
Obviously, you won your Oscar.
for playing June Carter.
But I also think of the mic-drops musical moments
throughout scenes in your career.
Which is a more influential, important scene
in your respective careers?
Counting Crows in, of course, cruel intentions,
or Frankie goes to Hollywood in Zoolander.
More important musical moment
in the history of cinema?
I would say Reese.
I say Zoolander.
Did you know, respectively, what songs were playing in those scenes when you shot them?
No.
That's something that Roger and whoever afterwards decided.
All I remember is Roger Cumberland's putting Bittersweet Something at the end of Cruel Intentions while I drive away in the Jaguar.
Right.
No.
Because what my experience was is I was driving a rickety, scary old Jaguar on the Long Island Expressway.
And they were like, get out of the way!
And I was like, and I had like a, they were in a helicopter, and I had the walking.
Not safe.
Not safe at all.
Not 90s were not safe.
No.
Yeah.
The only thing worse would have been a bear.
Don't add that to the mix.
You totally had a bear.
All right, our time is short, so I'm going to end with the happy, second, fuse, profoundly random questions, guys.
You ready?
Ready.
This is important.
This is the important stuff.
Dogs or cats?
Dogs.
That's the correct answer.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What do you collect, if anything?
Spoons.
Do you really?
No.
But wouldn't it be?
That sounds great delivering.
You sold it.
So then I could be like that's, yeah.
There's the spoon.
Witherspoon, yeah.
Got it.
My favorite, my favorite non-real answer is antique pistols.
Sure.
My antique pistol collection.
Right.
And the people go, really?
I go, huh?
And then that ends up in an interview.
What is your most precious?
I guess it's now a collection.
I love watches.
I have a little Swiss Army one today.
Nice.
Watches for guys are like the jewelry.
The one that's great.
Kuchermont we can do, yeah.
Either of you ever spent any time playing a video game,
a video game that you love in your heart of hearts growing up,
what was your favorite game?
Oh, heart of heart.
We're talking about arcade game.
Yeah, it could be Atari, a stand-up arcade thing.
Oh, you got something.
Oh, my brother was, I had a big brother, and he was so good at,
well, everything, centipede, Donkey Kong.
Gallagia.
Gallagat. Do you remember Dragon Slayer?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
That animation, that beautiful...
Played so much Mario Kart.
Yeah.
Zelda.
I get stressed out.
I get stressed out.
I get stressed out.
Have you played Fortnite?
No, I can't.
There's too many buttons and controllers.
Sure.
I watch.
I watch.
That's the best way to experience.
It's like...
And like when they do the dance, it's crazy.
I can't understand what Fortnite is.
I don't...
Well, let me explain it.
Okay.
No.
No.
You run around this made-up land.
And there's a thing, and then you wear a skin.
Okay.
Yep.
And then sometimes you, like, do a dance.
And then you wait.
Right.
Person, wait.
Like, over here.
And then you do the whip, and then you na-nay.
Like that.
Thank you.
That's what it is.
Now I get it.
Now I get it.
And then sometimes Travis felt like does a concert in the middle.
And then you just stop.
Yeah.
That's right.
Would you rather be four feet taller or four feet shorter?
Whoa. That's really short for me. I'd be like underground. I would be, I would be the size of a stool. A footstool?
I would be, I'd rather be two feet tall than ten feet tall, I think. Why? I don't know.
You can get it to small places. Can you imagine being ten feet tall? Yeah. Everything would hurt all the time.
You probably hit the doorway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
But then you're right.
I'd be, I'm six, three, so I'd be two, three.
It might limit your career options, too.
Like, just the roles.
Or?
Increase.
Or?
No, you're right.
That's a terrible question.
That is such a terrible question.
Does anyone like that question?
That's my favorite question.
Who answers that well?
I don't know, but he does, but I enjoy it.
What's the wallpaper on your phone?
My family.
It's my kids.
Yeah.
Good.
This is appropriate.
My second family.
Last actor you were mistaken for.
It never happened.
Yeah.
Really?
It happens for me sometimes.
Sometimes Kristen Bell, who I love.
So that one's always a big compliment.
Yeah.
Kristen or sometimes Alicia Silverstone or early in my career.
People would say, because she did Clueless and I did it legally,
blondes, but naturally. Sure. Of course, Chad Smith, red hot chili peppers. Reference in the movie.
Someone goes on a chili peppers run over here. You brought it back, he did it. I had the craziest
early S&L days, in fact, it was at the Dean and DeLuca. I don't know if it's still there off the
ice skating rink. Yeah, that's over there. And I walked in there and I walked in there and
And I didn't have a lot of notoriety at them.
They were like, hi.
Are you, I know who you are.
I'm like, oh, really?
Oh, well, how are you?
He's like, you're on MASH.
Oh.
And I go, but not Mike Farrell.
Oh, that's what I was going to say.
The other, the first BJ, the first BJ Honeycutt.
Okay.
Yeah, I see that.
And I forget what that actor's name is.
He's now like a stock.
analyst on Fox News.
And they're like, I was like, no, I'm not that actor.
And she was like, okay, can we still take a photo?
I'm like, sure.
So she probably went somewhere home to Indiana saying, here's the guy from MASH.
And they're like, no, it's not.
Not that excited.
No, it is, that's good.
Worst, worst note, don't undercut your own brilliance.
We can take that one off the list.
like a talk show story that won't be on colbert um worst note a director has ever given you
note yeah or a no not a note a note a note what's a what's that what's an unhelpful thing you can
give you don't have to name i was once told to sparkle and i wanted to punch him in the face
oh that is so good i don't i don't remember yeah i didn't say anything but that's a hard
i once had a director come in and go that's never going in the movie okay
Reset.
I had that once.
That's me.
And then, uh, what else?
Um, oh, Woody Allen.
I did a Woody Allen, the, the, did, Woody Allen movie?
Yeah, Melinda.
No, Melinda, Melinda.
Woody Allen came and was like, I don't know how to say this, but you're coming off nasty.
I'm like, okay.
So, you know, like, it's a common.
comedy.
Right.
I'm not trying to come off nasty.
That was a doozy?
Lastly, in the spirit of happy, sag confused, an actor who always makes you happy.
You see them on screen, you're instantly happier.
Will Ferrell.
You better have the right answer.
Kind, Will.
I do.
And it is...
What's her name?
You were just talking about her.
Gabor.
Ja-ja-Gabobo.
Yeah.
That's the answer.
Tip of my tongue, tip of my time.
Jocca Gabor.
A movie that makes you sad always.
Oh.
Oh, what's that movie with Will Smith and his little boy?
Oh, pursuit of happiness.
I can't, I can't.
It's okay.
It's going to be okay.
I can't.
A movie that always makes me sad.
You have no capacity for the, yeah, yeah, so.
I mean, this isn't quite the right answer, but it makes me sad.
sad and it makes me so happy. It's a wonderful life.
Yeah, sure. And a food that makes you confused. I thought you're going to say a food that
makes you sad. You can go there too if you want. Yeah. Borsh. Okay. Yeah. I don't get that.
What is a food that? Why do people like that? I don't get that. I just don't understand
the point of it. Smoke salmon. Really? Oh. I don't understand smoke fish. That's probably because
of where I'm from okay yeah you all have I don't understand and you may get mad at me
I don't know what your stance on this is I could never wrap my head around okra
boiled ok I were not friends clearly I can do fried but I can't do yeah no I hear you
I can't do a boiled oak I don't get it I don't get it I don't get okra it's disgusting it's
all slimy yeah not a gumbo fan no I can do gumbo because I can kind of work my way around
It's a project.
You just pick around the other.
And fried oaker, there's enough crunch.
Oh, it's delicious.
America's sweetheart, no more.
You're still America's sweetheart.
Congratulations.
She wins out.
Always.
Ten times out of ten.
The movie, once again, has alligators, great star performances, super funny, relatable.
I heard it's the best movie the year.
That's the only word on best picture.
The early word, early betting is...
I heard it's better than wicked.
Yeah.
That's what we're hearing.
We're hearing.
We're hearing.
Are you?
How are you?
Have you seen Rickett?
This is better.
Yeah.
Most people are saying.
Can you name some people?
Okay.
We're not going to name names.
It's okay because we don't embarrass people.
The people we have talked to are saying.
They worked on me.
It's better.
I will vouch.
I'm not going to compare and contrast.
It's, Wicked's great.
You don't have to.
That's not your job.
We're just telling you what we heard.
Right.
It's good to see you both.
Great to see you.
Thank you.
Thank you, guys.
You're awesome.
Thank you both.
fun. Thank you.
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