Happy Sad Confused - Reese Witherspoon & Will Ferrell

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Oh, my family. It's my kids. Yeah. Good. This is appropriate. My second family. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Hey, guys, it's Josh here. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. We've got not one but two megastars who have never been on the podcast before. So excited to say that, yes, Reese Withers, and Will Ferrell on Happy Said Confused at last. It only took about 11 years to have them on the show, but better late than never. They're always welcome,
Starting point is 00:01:38 and hopefully it won't be another 11 before they're back. That's coming up as the main event today on Happy, Sad, Confused. Other things I want to mention, no events to plug right now, but there's always stuff around the corner. Stay tuned. Patreon, you know the deal. Patreon.com slash happy, sad, confused. where you get all the exclusives. We got posters galore. We got Kate Winslet, Emily Blunt,
Starting point is 00:02:05 Claire Floyd, Jody Comer, uh, Sam Hewin, Austin Butler, I don't know, this is just off top in my head. We got tons. So, uh, check out patreon.com slash happy second fused for early access, discount codes, and all sorts of autographed cool stuff. Plus some swag, free merch. Uh, check it out. Um, speaking of cool stuff, I wanted to plug something I got a chance to see in New York, and thankfully it's not really, it's an ongoing run, even if it's kind of in fits and starts. I got a chance to see Hugh Jackman do his thing at Radio City Music Hall. And look, we all know, I think we all know by now, that not only can Hugh Jackman be the ultimate hero, anti-hero in Wolverine, badass Wolverine on screen, but he's a song and dance man at heart,
Starting point is 00:02:55 and he's so good at it. And I've been lucky enough to see him on stage. and a number of different incarnations over the years. And I just want to say, not that he needs a plug from me, but his latest show is fantastic, and it's kind of an old-school, big kind of Hollywood throwback of a theatrical experience. He sings a lot of greatest showmen and some music men, and on the show I saw Neil Diamond,
Starting point is 00:03:21 Ryan Reynolds was at the show I'm at? I'm not sure if that's always going to be part of the proceedings, but that was fun. So the good news is, like I said, it's not like one small run. He's actually playing, I think, a bunch of weekends throughout the year at Radio City Music Hall. So if you're in New York, if you're planning a trip to New York, look it up.
Starting point is 00:03:39 That's my unsolicited plug for a guy I've gotten a chance to do a lot with over the years, including Happy Seg Infused, look it up probably a long time ago now. So he's another one overdue. Okay, let's talk about Will Ferrell and Reese Witherspoon. So as I said, they have never been on the podcast, and that's kind of surprising. only because their careers have definitely coincided with my run at Happy Sank Infused and also my run at MTV. I have done a ton with these guys.
Starting point is 00:04:10 They are so charming, so professional. I mean, this is not news to anybody that's watched these two with their lives over the last 25 years. But I was so thrilled to have them on the show together. They are promoting a very funny new comedy, kind of, again, a throwback of a rom-com that really worked for me. it's on prime at the end of this week as you if you're listening to this as we drop it um i'm sure this is going to be the kind of movie that gets a gazillion views because it is so
Starting point is 00:04:37 watchable and so fun and like i said kind of like checks that box of that rom-com that we haven't seen done well i will say a lot in recent years and it's no surprise because it's written and directed i should say by nick stoller who's done a lot of really good stuff um and it's kind of a silly fun premise where it's two families have both booked the same locale for a wedding and unbeknownst to each other and then they have to kind of make figure it all out together. I laughed a lot and related to the characters and just had a blast. So you're cordially invited. I haven't even said the name of the film. That's the name of the movie. You're cordially invited. It's on prime video. Check it out. I'm sure you'll want to after you watch or listen to this conversation with
Starting point is 00:05:21 Reese and Will. This is, sometimes these combo interviews can be challenging. In this case, this was such an easy, fun one because they're so willing to go to different places. We talk a lot about different parts of their career, you know, notable performances from elf and old school to election, cruel intentions. We cover a lot in this. So I'm really happy with how it went, and I think you're going to have a blast if you have
Starting point is 00:05:50 half as much fun watching or listening to this as I did in the room with them the admission accomplished. So, enjoy this. Oh, wait, disclaimer. And this is one of those shitty disclaimers. The audio. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:04 You guys are going to roast me in the comments or what I can't. I can only do so much. Reese's mic, we had some trouble with. We didn't realize it. It was really crappy, really crappy audio. So the crack team and happy say I confused is going to do our best.
Starting point is 00:06:20 and post, it's definitely listenable, watchable, it's okay, but it's not the best quality. So apologies, apologies, apologies, do the best we can. Sometimes we come up short, so don't roast me in the comments, guys. We're
Starting point is 00:06:36 trying, okay? I'm giving you Will Ferrell and Reese Withersman for free. What can I tell you? Okay. Enjoy this. Check out their movie on Prime. You're cordially invited. And if you are so inclined, look up Q Jackman's show at Radio City. Thanks for a fun night out with the fam.
Starting point is 00:06:53 A costly night out. But it's worth it. It's you, Jackman. Okay, here's me and Reese and Will. Look, guys, there's no official introduction except to say we're killing two birds with one stone because neither of you have ever done the podcast before. And this is long overdue, Reese, Will, congratulations. You're cordially invited.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Oh, I thought you were going to say congratulated on doing the podcast. Well, that too, obviously. That's the major congrats in the air right now. Yeah. No, the film is fantastic. Congratulations, guys. This movie has everything. It's got two of our greatest stars. It's got a great premise. It's got Will hugging an alligator on the poster. This is the ultimate. Yes. Fair enough? Yeah. That might be my favorite poster. It's a really weird, funny poster. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Talk to me. When you hear a good premise for a film, do you know? Like, do you know, like, this has the ingredients. for something that's going to sustain an entire narrative. Because there's a funny core idea at the heart of this one, obviously. I mean, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Nick Stoller, writer-director Nick Storer has a pretty good track record. And this just seemed like it'd be fun. Whether it'd turn out any good, you never know. But then you add America's sweetheart here. All bets are off. That's official. That's official. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:21 That's official. You're both kind of America's sweethearts, though. He's really America's sweetheart. Let's get real. You should fight to the death over this honor right here and now. Over the crown, the sweetheart crown. Are you guys, so this, look, the premise at its core, two weddings, one venue, double-booked nightmare scenario. Are you guys, are you guys good wedding guests?
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'm an ex. I mean, I'm top-rated. Well, no, you know. In, just only in the domestic U.S., though. It falls off. Now, my rating's really low there. Do you... Reese, from hearing her talk about herself, gets up, she participates.
Starting point is 00:09:03 You're in it. She's on the dance floor. I'm on the dance floor, right? First on the dance floor, last off. I'm giving meaningful toasts. Yes. I am hugging people in a deep, heartfelt way. I'm telling everyone they feel loved.
Starting point is 00:09:14 They are loved and cared for. Yeah. what's what's the song that is best to play at a wedding to ensure folks getting up on the dance floor provocative i know yeah um well what's um it's i mean it's always it's a fan favorite uh i'm forget but a little bit louder now oh what's it's sorry the audio's not coming through what A look. The, the, the, from Animal House. No, from Animal House.
Starting point is 00:09:47 All our brains are liquefying. I'm sorry. I don't have it. Hey, hey, shout. Shout. Thank you. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Right. That'll get people up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I only danced one song at my own wedding. What? You're just not a dancer? I'm not a dancer. Okay. No. Shame on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Was your wife just in the worst mood? She has been for the last nearly 20 years. Yeah. No, it just, it's not, I can't do it. I can't do it. Because you're embarrassed? Yeah. Oh, but no one's judging.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I mean, they are. Everyone's like, it's so sweet. He's a terrible dancer. Yeah, okay. The next wedding I'll get it right. No, no. Renew your vows and dance the night away. I always worry about the renewing of vows thing.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Where do we come down? on that. It's a little over compensation. Is it a little showy off? Yeah. I have no judgment. Okay. Your face is saying something. There are some who renew it every year. Renew it every year. Right. That's a whole. Or take, yeah. Right. Well, has done it three times. I've renewed our vows multiple times. Right. Was Vib there? Vib. Was that mutual?
Starting point is 00:11:14 I just pick a super romantic spot. Yeah. Remember. And then do you just look at your wedding album? Yes. We're back. We're doing it again. It's not documented in anyone.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I think the best wedding song is We Are Family. Oh, that's a great one. It works. Whether or not you like it or not, you're now a family. Is it wrong to play We Are the Champions? No. I mean for the walk down. Another one bites the dust.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Another one bites the dust. There's a subtext there though. I don't, yeah. Okay, what's the other random things to talk about in relation to your wonderful movie? I mentioned the alligator, working with animals. You've both worked with animals. There's just so many animals. I think you both have like...
Starting point is 00:12:00 There's a joke in there. There is. And actual animals too, yeah. Top-tier actors. Are you comfortable riding a horse? Oh, yeah. Very. I've ridden a lot of horses in movies. And I've ridden an elephant in a movie.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Oh my gosh. More than once. Wait, for elephants? What's the other? Maybe I did called Vanity Fair in India. Sure. I wrote an elephant. Yep. And I have worked with multiple dogs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm a big dog. Like, it's so funny because people, because I've worked with so many dog trainers, I think I'm, like, just by osmosis. Do you have one of those clickers? She uses it for you, right? I got to pay them. I always have a clicker in my pocket. I love when the animal trainer comes on, like, I'm sorry, I got to pay him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That's a terminology for giving the animal a treat. Right, they do that with you too. Yeah, I could be paid too. Can I have one of those cheery? You gotta stop, yeah, we gotta stop, they need to, yeah. Is there something about being on a film set that makes you do things that- Is there a reason you wanted to ask about animals?
Starting point is 00:13:05 Well, because I think of the alligator. I think of the alligator scene in this. Because that was a real alligator? I mean... What do you think? No, I don't think so. I do remember... I mean, it looks great.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Don't get me wrong. Tell them to story about the alligator. Tell me the story about the alligator. Which one? The one in your movie. There was an animal trainer who sent a video to try to convince our line producer that we could use a real alligator.
Starting point is 00:13:32 What Ferrell could hold this is very docile. She's very dossal. And he's like... And he's like... Pulling it by the tail. Right. And he could do this. And he could do that.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Meanwhile, as you see, if you see the scene, I'm thrashing about it. There's no way that live alligator would have tolerated. No. Oh, we can make, we can make him real sleepy. But what a way to go. What a story it would be. All in the service of great comedy. I remember writing a donkey on SNL.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And during the dress rehearsal, the donkeys were so funny and they wouldn't stay in one place and one started trying to like nuzzle Daryl Hammond's crotch. Sure. And then they, then they, they sedated them for the live show and the donkeys were almost falling over while we're on their backs. Huh. Anyway. I remember way that.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And that's a great story. It is a good story. That's a good story. There you go. They also got a camel stuck in a freight elevator once. What are you talking about? This is like the true life horror stories of Esenal. This is not.
Starting point is 00:14:37 You can hear the camel bleeding down the hallway. Ah-huh. I do feel like there's like something that clicks at least in my brain on shoots, and maybe it happens for you guys when you're shooting in a film, like that you do things you wouldn't normally do because the cameras are on and you just sort of get sucked into the atmosphere. One hundred percent. Exactly. And then once people start laughing, I can't stop.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah. You will grab that alligator. Yeah. Yeah. I remember, I don't know if you remember this, Rland of the Lost the way back when I was. lost way back when we shot a promo where there was a giant albino python draped over our necks will see this is how much you've done you don't even remember that i don't remember that but i worked with that python that i'm not afraid of it's a great guy he's a great guy i'm not even kidding
Starting point is 00:15:21 i believe you yeah that can't be more than one right you're right yeah but no wait tell me what you're going to say no i but i'm not that's not scary at all to me have you ever feared for your wife working with an animal. The bears... Well, the bears in Anchorman. Right. I heard that was not safe. In retrospect, maybe bad call. And we should have listened to the animal trainers who kept saying that, oh yeah, yeah, the bear can do this, the bear can do that. Keep in mind, it is a bear, which is like, I think it's like the release, the verbal release. And I'm good. I'm absolved, like, oh, the bear will let you do this, bear, bear, keep in mind, though, it is a bear. So basically, I'm still not responsible if anything happens.
Starting point is 00:16:15 You know it's bad when, like, a stunt person is like, God, I've worked with everything. Bears, I just do not trust. Okay, and action. Get in there. So. Is the key to, segueing out of animals, some things you get to do in this film deliver drunken dialogues. I've always heard this from actors. The key to playing drunk, you're trying not to be drunk.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You're like actively like denying that you're drunk in the scene. Is that on your mind when you're like kind of soaring your words a little bit but not overly so? Ries? I could reveal my secrets about how I play drunk, but then I'd have nothing left for my memoirs. So, so smart. So smart. Yeah, it's gonna be multi-volume, yeah. So I'm just gonna leave that.
Starting point is 00:17:00 No, I have played drunken movies before. Let the work speak for. right what's your secret to playing i mean i think is it is it analogous drunk to um getting shot with the tranquilizer dart in old school is that's feel like in the same realm i that's my favorite scene ever it is it is one of the greatest scenes in film cinema history right and when john like was god goes you don't look all right man yeah yeah you're crazy It's pretty great. I'm so method.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yes, we've heard that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I had them shoot me with a dart. Whoa. Just to see what it feel like. That's not true. How do you feel? I didn't notice it at first.
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Starting point is 00:19:15 Watch it again. And tell me, you don't find it. You brought back Buddy recently at an NHL game. No, Buddy just appeared. You can't stop Buddy when Buddy wants out. Buddy just wanted a night out. Is there a moment of like pause when you were putting on the costume? Like, oh no.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I was totally, I just knew we were going to be home for the winter break and we're season tickets to the L.A. Kings and we have these amazing seats that are right on the glass. And I literally said to Vib, like, you know, the one thing I want to do, I want to go to a Kings game. I want not shave for a week and get like some candy cigarette, get some fake cigarettes and just sit there as like a down and out buddy the elf and see what the reaction is. That's it. Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished. And your wife is just like, cool. Yeah. At this point, she's probably knows. She's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:13 She's so used to everything now? She's like, okay, what time do we need to be there? Bye. I'm like, honey, you can't laugh. She's like, okay. But like, where are we going to park? Right. Should we get snacks ahead of time?
Starting point is 00:20:25 She's very tall, aren't? Would you ever go into character from your pantheon of wonderful roles, of wonderful roles and put them out into the real world, go to a football game as L. Woods just for shits and giggles. Not as. Probably not, right? That's a no. Probably not. Probably not. That's a good. Speaking of a buddy, how how fiercely have you had to defend not doing a sequel over the years. Oh my God, I want to hear this.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I would imagine the studio comes to you and Fabro and everybody and says, guys, this is money waiting to be cashed in. There was a lot of movement after the film initially came out, of which I maintained that it's going to be really hard because it's a classic fish out of water story. It's a perfect movie. But prove me wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And an attempt was made at a script, which which, you know, tried its best, but I just was like, I don't know. Yeah. And I was offered a crazy amount of money. But no, I just was, I was like, I have to be able to sit in a setting like this and talk about the movie in a way that I feel good about. And I was talking to, you know, my manager going, look, if I were to promote that movie, I'd be literally saying, I did it for the money.
Starting point is 00:22:00 straight up and like do you want that messaging out there and yeah so and then they tried a little bit later down the road right it just was there any concept that seemed insane that seemed like no but but someone brought I think it was stoler in fact after seeing that photo that I just did he's like oh maybe it's that buddy's down down but no one wants to see that right That would be hard to watch. Yeah. It would be sad for all of us to watch in that state.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy's given up. He refuses to. No. No, I can't see him without hope and joy. Find a bathroom. He just soils himself, you know? Dark. Dark.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Perfect for our times. A buddy for 2025, yeah. He just stinks? Buddy, you stink. Oh, yeah? Give me a break. You don't know what I've been through. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:59 You're like, what are buddy's problem? I don't know. I don't know. Nick Stoller would think of something really funny, though. You would. We're happy to leave it well enough alone. I think it's a good call. That being said, on the Tracy Flick side, and I spoke to Alexander Payne about this.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Okay, I don't think Will knows about this. I mean, he's actively, they're scripting it, right? I know. I'm sure you're well involved in that. It's based on a book by Tom Perada, and Tom Perada wrote a sequel probably two years ago, and Alexander and Jim Taylor are adapting it. Amazing. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah. Are you... It's hard for... It was so hard reading the book because I felt like... I didn't feel like it was me that I was reading about, but it felt like one of my dearest friends
Starting point is 00:23:40 that I was reading what happened to her and I didn't know what happened to her. And I was so worried I kept putting it down the book. And I was like, is she okay? Yeah, right. Is she had issues? Like, you know, she has issues. Like, you know, she has an issue.
Starting point is 00:23:53 But I don't have anything wrong with her, but it was really tender. It was, like, emotional because I do feel so much tenderness for all these people because as many minutes is me getting philosophical about comedy but you can't play the journey of a character like mill woods or crazy flick without finding some sympathy at some essential part of their humanity whether they feel extremely lonely or they're ambitious because they don't have a dad and you know or there's just all sorts of stuff tied in it for me that they feel very
Starting point is 00:24:29 real and whole to me. So anyway, it was really, it was great. I had the novel, it's great. Of course, Al-Gvianna Payne and Jim Taylor can just, I just live every movie a day, so it's really fun. Here's like a general point of commonality, I feel like when I look at both your careers. I feel like you both, you haven't followed kind of a playbook
Starting point is 00:24:50 that maybe others would set for you. Like, you infamously, Buddy the Elf had an NHL game. This is best example, Casa Demi, Pod. Like, there are a thousand examples of what Will Ferrell has done that nobody in their right mind would say, do that. And you, in a different way, I feel like I've obviously charted a very specific path true to you, your love of books, your love of specific projects. Is that something that you feel like you must both take a certain pride in that, like, being true to yourselves over the years has borne out the careers we can talk about today as opposed to following what someone else had envisioned for. for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I mean, I just have a very strange sense of humor, I think. And what I think is funny is maybe not usually what other people think is funny. And then also I get, I have like a more serious side. Sometimes I want to do that kind of stuff. And then, yeah, and I'm like you. Like, I don't know. It's, to me, it's about connecting and the group of people you're working with. because as I gotten older, that's so paramount to the experience.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Right, it's just not worth it to work with people better. I don't want to have a stressful experience. I want to have, I also want to work with people who are incredibly talented like we can play off each other and so that your experiences become more and more rare because that group is very, yeah. Yeah, I just, I just at a certain point had this thing. I mean, it's kind of, it draws parallels with... Saturday Night Live in that we would have these sketches, you know, you're lucky enough to have a sketch that's a recurring character that everyone, you know, like the cheerleaders and this thing that is like a hit. But then I also relish those what we'd call on the show the 10 to 1 sketches, which is they would air at 10 minutes to 1. It's the last sketch of the night. And it's usually an odd ball thing. And I loved writing those, you know, left of center.
Starting point is 00:26:57 kind of kind of things uh and i think that i just always loved indulging that part of my brain and while i still had currency have currency in this business why not do a lifetime movie right a movie entirely in spanish deadly dot yeah um but like let let's also do these quirky yeah weird stuff to augment, you know, and I still love doing the poppier stuff in a way, but yeah, lucky to be able to get to do all that. Is there anything so weird beyond even what we've talked about that you haven't been able to make it happen that the folks have said, that's even crazy by your standards. We can't let you do that, Will.
Starting point is 00:27:46 There is a, there, I pray that we get to do it, but Harper Steel has written this script that is so frickin' funny. It's about coyotes take over Los Angeles. An actor told me that Sam Rockwell told me about that. Yes. And it's almost
Starting point is 00:28:05 in a Omega Man Charlton Heston kind of scientist who like something's not working right. Because anyone who lives in Los Angeles, you see coyotes live everywhere and that they've now have a sophisticated culture, and they've learned to speak.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Some of them know how to talk. So it's kind of like Planet of the Hs Needs, but it's coyotes, and it's so surrealist and absurd, and yet heightened and dumb. Yeah. And, but Hollywood's in a weird state. Like, we pitch it and it was like, how realistic are the, is there a horror element to it?
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'm like, no. Like, no one will touch it in a way. That's so weird to me. Especially after cocaine bear, which was so popular. But they used that as an example that they said, even cocaine bear, though, when it, you know, it was gory. It's gory, it's real gore. But you don't want to have gore. We don't want to have gore.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And if we have gore, we want it to be silly and, like, bad puppets. We don't want realistic, like, we want it chintzy-smaltzy, lo-fi, bad movie. Yeah, yeah. camera effects right i love it we love it it'll happen so so i'll put up the money is that what that was what that's what this was what the show is all take down the camera yes how do you bring in the paper we bring the paper i got a docu sign here here here and here dokey sign here and here okay this one do either you're fine you are here and here fine wait how much is this movie
Starting point is 00:29:50 I don't know. $200 million. I do it for zero. I'm Amy Nicholson, the film critic for the L.A. Times. And I'm Paul Shear, an actor, writer, and director. You might know me from The League, Veep, or my non-eligible for Academy Award role in Twisters. We come together to host Unspool, a podcast where we talk about good movies, critical hits. Fan favorites, must season, and case you missed them.
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Starting point is 00:31:05 There will be plenty of blockbusters to chat about two. Tron Ares looks exceptional, plus Mortal Kombat too, and Edgar writes, The Running Man, starring Glenn Powell. Search for Raiders of the Lost Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Do either of you remember the last time you auditioned? Does any part of you miss auditioning? I had that fear feeling. What I will say, and we were recently with this young person who said out,
Starting point is 00:31:35 who was very established who auditioned for their last movie. And I thought, it was Ariana Grande talking about how she was auditioned for Rickin. Right. And I thought, I thought it was so great that she told that story because I do think, you ego can really stop creativity. You should feel afraid and you shouldn't just be guaranteed to get everything. I auditioned for Tim Burton once I didn't get it, but I was glad I did it. You know, I think he's amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I think he's worthy of any kind of, you know, big effort to try and get the job. I don't know. I just think we're all just creative people trying to make the best decision. Have you auditioned for things? I'm afraid to... No, you don't like auditioning. No, no, I... You're offer only.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Is that what you're trying to say? I'm offer only. Yeah, we've heard that. No, the Saturday Night Live auditions are burned into my brain forever. And yet it's the only way, I don't know... I guess you can go and watch somewhere at a comedy club and do their stuff, but there was something about the intensity of doing it in the studio where they shoot the show, and Lauren...
Starting point is 00:32:48 Like a producer sitting in the shadows. You might as well have been just smoking a cigarette, seeing the ember of it. But the empty studio, and there was a method to his madness. He wanted to create the tension and the enormity of what it feels like to do live television. And it worked. You were like kind of shaking going out there,
Starting point is 00:33:10 but then there was a part of you being creative people where you had to just like, this is so insane that now I'm not, nervous because it's not going to happen. And you just fall back into what you know you can do. Right. So I agree with Reese. It's an awful process, but it's the only process to go through. Presumably you didn't have to audition for your singing part in this. I want to ruin anything for the audience, but there is some singing. There's a duet. There is. Stick around guys. You're cordially invited. Did you know your delicious voices would meld so well? I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I hoped. He's journal about it. Yeah. I try and point it. I think Stoller and I were talking about it. That'd be fun to do a duet at the end. Well, was amazing. He was in the booth, like, laying down tracks.
Starting point is 00:34:07 That was the first day. Before we even started filming, right? Yeah. You both had wonderful musical moments throughout your career. Obviously, you won your Oscar. for playing June Carter. But I also think of the mic-drops musical moments throughout scenes in your career.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Which is a more influential, important scene in your respective careers? Counting Crows in, of course, cruel intentions, or Frankie goes to Hollywood in Zoolander. More important musical moment in the history of cinema? I would say Reese. I say Zoolander.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Did you know, respectively, what songs were playing in those scenes when you shot them? No. That's something that Roger and whoever afterwards decided. All I remember is Roger Cumberland's putting Bittersweet Something at the end of Cruel Intentions while I drive away in the Jaguar. Right. No. Because what my experience was is I was driving a rickety, scary old Jaguar on the Long Island Expressway. And they were like, get out of the way!
Starting point is 00:35:12 And I was like, and I had like a, they were in a helicopter, and I had the walking. Not safe. Not safe at all. Not 90s were not safe. No. Yeah. The only thing worse would have been a bear. Don't add that to the mix.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You totally had a bear. All right, our time is short, so I'm going to end with the happy, second, fuse, profoundly random questions, guys. You ready? Ready. This is important. This is the important stuff. Dogs or cats? Dogs.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That's the correct answer. Thank you. Yeah. What do you collect, if anything? Spoons. Do you really? No. But wouldn't it be?
Starting point is 00:35:46 That sounds great delivering. You sold it. So then I could be like that's, yeah. There's the spoon. Witherspoon, yeah. Got it. My favorite, my favorite non-real answer is antique pistols. Sure.
Starting point is 00:35:59 My antique pistol collection. Right. And the people go, really? I go, huh? And then that ends up in an interview. What is your most precious? I guess it's now a collection. I love watches.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I have a little Swiss Army one today. Nice. Watches for guys are like the jewelry. The one that's great. Kuchermont we can do, yeah. Either of you ever spent any time playing a video game, a video game that you love in your heart of hearts growing up, what was your favorite game?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Oh, heart of heart. We're talking about arcade game. Yeah, it could be Atari, a stand-up arcade thing. Oh, you got something. Oh, my brother was, I had a big brother, and he was so good at, well, everything, centipede, Donkey Kong. Gallagia. Gallagat. Do you remember Dragon Slayer?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. Oh, my God. That animation, that beautiful... Played so much Mario Kart. Yeah. Zelda. I get stressed out. I get stressed out.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I get stressed out. Have you played Fortnite? No, I can't. There's too many buttons and controllers. Sure. I watch. I watch. That's the best way to experience.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It's like... And like when they do the dance, it's crazy. I can't understand what Fortnite is. I don't... Well, let me explain it. Okay. No. No.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You run around this made-up land. And there's a thing, and then you wear a skin. Okay. Yep. And then sometimes you, like, do a dance. And then you wait. Right. Person, wait.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Like, over here. And then you do the whip, and then you na-nay. Like that. Thank you. That's what it is. Now I get it. Now I get it. And then sometimes Travis felt like does a concert in the middle.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And then you just stop. Yeah. That's right. Would you rather be four feet taller or four feet shorter? Whoa. That's really short for me. I'd be like underground. I would be, I would be the size of a stool. A footstool? I would be, I'd rather be two feet tall than ten feet tall, I think. Why? I don't know. You can get it to small places. Can you imagine being ten feet tall? Yeah. Everything would hurt all the time. You probably hit the doorway.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But then you're right. I'd be, I'm six, three, so I'd be two, three. It might limit your career options, too. Like, just the roles. Or?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Increase. Or? No, you're right. That's a terrible question. That is such a terrible question. Does anyone like that question? That's my favorite question. Who answers that well?
Starting point is 00:38:35 I don't know, but he does, but I enjoy it. What's the wallpaper on your phone? My family. It's my kids. Yeah. Good. This is appropriate. My second family.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Last actor you were mistaken for. It never happened. Yeah. Really? It happens for me sometimes. Sometimes Kristen Bell, who I love. So that one's always a big compliment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Kristen or sometimes Alicia Silverstone or early in my career. People would say, because she did Clueless and I did it legally, blondes, but naturally. Sure. Of course, Chad Smith, red hot chili peppers. Reference in the movie. Someone goes on a chili peppers run over here. You brought it back, he did it. I had the craziest early S&L days, in fact, it was at the Dean and DeLuca. I don't know if it's still there off the ice skating rink. Yeah, that's over there. And I walked in there and I walked in there and And I didn't have a lot of notoriety at them. They were like, hi.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Are you, I know who you are. I'm like, oh, really? Oh, well, how are you? He's like, you're on MASH. Oh. And I go, but not Mike Farrell. Oh, that's what I was going to say. The other, the first BJ, the first BJ Honeycutt.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Okay. Yeah, I see that. And I forget what that actor's name is. He's now like a stock. analyst on Fox News. And they're like, I was like, no, I'm not that actor. And she was like, okay, can we still take a photo? I'm like, sure.
Starting point is 00:40:23 So she probably went somewhere home to Indiana saying, here's the guy from MASH. And they're like, no, it's not. Not that excited. No, it is, that's good. Worst, worst note, don't undercut your own brilliance. We can take that one off the list. like a talk show story that won't be on colbert um worst note a director has ever given you note yeah or a no not a note a note a note what's a what's that what's an unhelpful thing you can
Starting point is 00:40:50 give you don't have to name i was once told to sparkle and i wanted to punch him in the face oh that is so good i don't i don't remember yeah i didn't say anything but that's a hard i once had a director come in and go that's never going in the movie okay Reset. I had that once. That's me. And then, uh, what else? Um, oh, Woody Allen.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I did a Woody Allen, the, the, did, Woody Allen movie? Yeah, Melinda. No, Melinda, Melinda. Woody Allen came and was like, I don't know how to say this, but you're coming off nasty. I'm like, okay. So, you know, like, it's a common. comedy. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm not trying to come off nasty. That was a doozy? Lastly, in the spirit of happy, sag confused, an actor who always makes you happy. You see them on screen, you're instantly happier. Will Ferrell. You better have the right answer. Kind, Will. I do.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And it is... What's her name? You were just talking about her. Gabor. Ja-ja-Gabobo. Yeah. That's the answer. Tip of my tongue, tip of my time.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Jocca Gabor. A movie that makes you sad always. Oh. Oh, what's that movie with Will Smith and his little boy? Oh, pursuit of happiness. I can't, I can't. It's okay. It's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I can't. A movie that always makes me sad. You have no capacity for the, yeah, yeah, so. I mean, this isn't quite the right answer, but it makes me sad. sad and it makes me so happy. It's a wonderful life. Yeah, sure. And a food that makes you confused. I thought you're going to say a food that makes you sad. You can go there too if you want. Yeah. Borsh. Okay. Yeah. I don't get that. What is a food that? Why do people like that? I don't get that. I just don't understand
Starting point is 00:43:00 the point of it. Smoke salmon. Really? Oh. I don't understand smoke fish. That's probably because of where I'm from okay yeah you all have I don't understand and you may get mad at me I don't know what your stance on this is I could never wrap my head around okra boiled ok I were not friends clearly I can do fried but I can't do yeah no I hear you I can't do a boiled oak I don't get it I don't get it I don't get okra it's disgusting it's all slimy yeah not a gumbo fan no I can do gumbo because I can kind of work my way around It's a project. You just pick around the other.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And fried oaker, there's enough crunch. Oh, it's delicious. America's sweetheart, no more. You're still America's sweetheart. Congratulations. She wins out. Always. Ten times out of ten.
Starting point is 00:43:51 The movie, once again, has alligators, great star performances, super funny, relatable. I heard it's the best movie the year. That's the only word on best picture. The early word, early betting is... I heard it's better than wicked. Yeah. That's what we're hearing. We're hearing.
Starting point is 00:44:07 We're hearing. Are you? How are you? Have you seen Rickett? This is better. Yeah. Most people are saying. Can you name some people?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Okay. We're not going to name names. It's okay because we don't embarrass people. The people we have talked to are saying. They worked on me. It's better. I will vouch. I'm not going to compare and contrast.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It's, Wicked's great. You don't have to. That's not your job. We're just telling you what we heard. Right. It's good to see you both. Great to see you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Thank you, guys. You're awesome. Thank you both. fun. Thank you. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes
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