Happy Sad Confused - Skyler Gisondo

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

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So I sent in that tape fully thinking, this is for Superman. So if I look at that tape, do I get Superman vibes? Like, are you... Apparently not. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Hey, guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy Sag Infused.

Today on the show, we have Skylar Jizondu in the house. First-time guest on the pod, someone that has only done one other podcast before. I'll take that any day of the week. He's talking about prime time. his new film with Robert Pattinson and so much more. Thanks, guys, as always, for checking out the podcast. Remember, subscribe if you haven't already, on YouTube, on Spotify, on any podcast platform you like, I don't care, just subscribe, guys.

Check out what we're doing over here. I'm so thrilled to have Skylar on the show today. He has been crafting a remarkable career in recent years. Look, he is, of course, Jimmy Olson. We talk about Superman, Man of Tomorrow, and yes, he has his own spinoff show facing off against Gorilla Grod, which I'm very excited about. They've been shooting it lately. We talk about that. He's in Falker-in-law opposite Ariana Grande and Robert De Niro and Ben Stiller. He's in the new Shrek movie. Very busy guy. And of course, this new film, Primetime, which is a change of pace

for Skyler. This is a full-on drama. This tells the story of Chris Hansen. Yes, it is based on the events of To Catch a Predator. And Skyler is kind of the secret weapon of this film. Kind of a co-lead. I don't want to ruin too much. But as the story progresses, it really becomes as much Skyler's film as it is Robert Pattinson's. And he is fantastic in it. And I'm so happy to support him, support the film, and just talk about his crazy career that's just like really just been reaping great rewards for him. And I think we're getting him at a really cool time in his career and life. And as you'll see and hear from the conversation, just a fun guy to talk to. So I was really happy to connect with him today. And I think you guys are going to really dig this one. Here is me and Sky.

Gisando. Enjoy. Oh man. You're right for this, Skyler? I'm ready. Are you, though? I think so. Skyler, welcome to the podcast. Thanks so much for having me, man. I'm very excited to have you here. You are, you're absolutely killing it. There's a thousand things to talk about.

Hard G or soft G, first of all, in the last name. Soft G, thanks for asking. Soft G. That's also like a good, like a good like. Yeah, soft G. Soft G. That's a good nickname. It's a good like rapper name.

Yeah, yeah. You want to pursue that route. My, my manager came up with my rapper name recently. accidentally sky priority. Yes. Greenlit. And then I pitched the dollar sign for the S. Yeah.

SkyPri. Just floating that. Just test around here today. Hashtag Sky Priority. It's also not a cool way to launch a rapper. I got a real cool new rapper. Sky priority. Famous rappers have launched their careers.

I'm happy to say I confused before. So you're the next in the line. Do you rap? Do you sing? Are you a? I've had to under duress. I mean, in, you know, there's some singing. There's some singing. It's helpful when it's, uh, that kind of singing

where it's like it's, it's, it's, there's sort of like a specificity to it. Like I'm a Broadway-ish, you know, I want that I want it. So it's like singing a character. Singing as a character, you feel so safe. Yeah. Singing me. Yeah. And probably not. No. Yeah. You don't want to start something worse. It's like 8.30 in the morning. Do you want to sing for us right now? Just sing for your supper. It's like 45 minutes of vocal warmups. I could tell. We'd be out of time by the end. Do you do vocal warmups? Most morning. Yeah. Do you really? No, no, no. I did for during prime time because I kind of like my voice is sort of up a register. And so I found like I wanted to get like out of that and into the higher thing. But usually no, but I'd be down to start. How many? It's not a prerequisite to be on the podcast. Don't worry. Just good work, which you are achieving. Okay. So you're here first and foremost for prime time, which I mean, folks that listen or watch this podcast, probably this is very high on the radar because this is Lance Oppenheim. This is. This is. is based loosely or not so loosely on to catch a predator,

Chris Hansen, the whole craziness. And it's obviously you and Robert Pattinson and everybody's in for a treat for this because Rob kills it, but you're also kind of like, you're kind of the secret weapon of this, Skylar. Like you really are amazing in this. Thank you. Talk to me a little bit.

First, we'll get to the production, but you recently were in Venice for the Big World Premiere. Oh, so cool. So you've done some cool things, but that's a unique experience. Totally, totally. It is, dude, it was just one, like, moment to moment. The entire day, it was just one enormous out-of-body experience.

It was like, you know, that it's such an eye, everywhere you're stepping, it's so iconic. You have all these images in your head of, like, all the people who have stood there and, like, the press and the energy there, man. It, it's just unlike any other. It just feels like you're in, like, the epicenter of cool. Yeah. This is the coolest possible. You're in someone else's dream. Like, this isn't real.

Are you also like how I always like to ask about the famous standing o's, how awkward was the standing ovation? Dude, it's so awkward. I don't know. Famously, okay, this is that the same for those that know, no, the standing O's at Venice go on and on and on. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. Awesome. But like, if you do the math, standing ovate, like standing up for more than 30 seconds starts to feel weird, let alone like 10 minutes.

Right. And you, you, you, which I didn't realize like, you're also kind of clapping back out there. So you feel psychotic. You're just like looking. you're there looking to you, you're looking at them. And then I just kept asking Rob like, how much, like, do we keep going? He's like, just keep going. And then let, dude, I'm so glad I, I don't, I shouldn't draw attention to it.

But Lance was like, Lance was like, okay, bow, bow, sky, bow. And I was like, no, what, solo, bow? And he's like, yeah, they want bow. And I, there's everyone's like, and I was like, Lance is like, tell me about us. So I was like, okay. And then I did it. And then I like ejected immediately. So there's a moment where I'm just like, and thank.

Thankfully, it didn't cat, now it's fine. Now we're going to go back to the tape and really analyze it. But there's a very regrettable moment where I kind of like, and also to acknowledge just to do a solo bow. Did you curtsey too? Did you just do like that? That would have been better. That would, but then we did the group bow, which felt right.

But you clap, you clap, you clap. And then eventually, you know, thankfully every one day stop and it's over. It's done. Yeah. And then you're like, why'd you go stop, man? Yeah, no, wait, come on more. I'm an actor. I need this.

I feed off of you. But look, this is a big moment. There are a lot of things to talk about. But like this film stands out. This is obviously a moment for you, like a different kind of a role that we haven't seen you in, certainly different kind of a film.

Did it feel like, I don't know, does it feel like a marker kind of for you in a career? Totally, thanks, man. Yeah, it felt, it was certainly the, when Lance and I first spoke about it, I said to him,

I was like, I don't know what you've seen of mine that makes you think I can do that. Like, if I was you, man, I would not. The air bud movies. He was like, Dude, I saw spooky buddies specifically, and your revelatory is how I felt about. But so, yeah, going into it, which is not, I'd heard actors talk about like wanting to do stuff that scared them or something.

I never got that. I was like, why would you want to be scared? Wouldn't you want to know? It's going to go well. Life is scary enough. I don't want to scare myself. Totally, dude, there's enough. And so this was the first time where, you know, I was, I could not believe Lance wanted.

it was going to happen. Yeah. But I was terrified. There was, like, reading the script, there was things that I just, like, I didn't know if I could do it, how I would do it, how it would go. And so it was this incredibly formative experience. And also in that, like, we all became, Lance is so young, David Bowlin, his cinematographer's young, Will.

A lot of our producers, it felt like there was no adults on set. Oh, like, it was like a bunch of kids making a movie. And so it was, Lance is so collaborative. And it just was this very sort of, like, It was the most challenging thing I've ever done. It was the most like, but I started to, and I felt inspired by Rob in that way. Like, he, Lance has said that he like jumps off a cliff every take. And when you're working with an actor, it's like that dynamic, like you let go of the idea that you know what it's going to be or where it's going to go.

And you start to get more comfortable, like operating in that uncertainty. And I found a real joy, I think, in that uncertainty. It's kind of inspirational. I mean, yeah, I've talked about Rob so much on this podcast over the year. He's the great. He's the goat. And people might be like tired of me saying it because I go back to the Twilight days and I covered Twilight so damn much. As you should. I mean, I was at MTV covering Twilight. As you can imagine, we did a lot. And to see what he has done with his career, like I'll be honest, I don't, I did not have this on my bingo card. He put in the work. He really did. And where he's at right now, taking the risks that he does, working with the coolest filmmakers. It's an inspiration to me as just a, film lover and it sounds like to you as just like a screen partner to see what he's doing in a scene totally dude he puts it all on the line now he takes the biggest swings he works with like you said

such interesting filmmakers early in their careers you know before you've really seen like lance had done his doc stuff is unbelievable you know but he had not done a narrative he had not done something and so when you're rob and you are where he is in his career to just be like i like you i like you let's go let's do this it's uh it's it's amazing man yeah truly it uh it uh And he's so, there's very few actor. I think most of us are like turning up and down the dials on different parts of ourselves. And there's a very select few who really shape shift and kind of just go somewhere completely

new every time. And yeah, totally inspirational dude to work with. So this character that you play within the narrative is, it's kind of interesting. There's a bit of a meta quality. He's a struggling actor that's like willing to like kind of, I don't know, I don't want to like spoil anything, but kind of like sell his soul a little bit, go to really extremely links for this chance at some degree of success. I don't know, are there points of any connection that you make to Dan as an actor in this?

Totally, dude. In the like, you know, acting is humiliating, honestly. Yeah. It's very embarrassing. It's this very vulnerable thing. And I was fortunate in that, like, I started young enough. I was like six years old when I started. And so by the time you start to get to that age, like 12, 13, 14, where you're developing

a sense of like self-consciousness. I had like a resume or something. So by that, I kind of had this like, you know, I sort of was like, oh, this is what I do. I didn't have too much time to think about like, this is crazy. But then still those, the things I connected with the most are like just that eagerness and that kind of like, you know, walking into a room and like, you know, the auditions on Friday, you got sent the material on Monday. It's all you've been thinking about all week you want. And you know, like everything could change everything. Like that's, and you know, and Every role, like, every week after week after week, it's like, oh, dude, this is the thing that could. And so that sense of like, you know, wanting something so badly and feeling so far from it.

And then two in his like awe of Chris, you know, like, I having when I was, especially when I was younger, getting to work with people who you're just like, you know, they're 10 feet tall. And you can't believe that like you just want to soak in everything. And like, so certainly there was a ton. There was a ton that was there. So do you still feel, because I have this conversation a lot with actors about how silly it all is in the end and how silly you can feel. Yeah. If you can't, like silencing the part of your brain that's like, I look like an idiot. Like in a different context.

If you take the cameras away, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah. I look like a mad person. So it's, dude, it's a really, uh, I'm humbled all the time by like, anytime you see a take, uh, that they didn't use or like, what it's just, it's like, acting really is 95% directing, writing, editing, you know, know, everything, everything comes together, the costume, the hair, the makeup to create this thing that's so much greater and then the sum of its parts, the whole of its parts, the whole is greater than some of its parts. And I think that, yeah, you have this idea in your head that like, the past like year or so, I've been a part of a couple of projects where I was cast and then

other, we had to find other actors. So I was coming into chemistry read with people. And so having that experience for the first time, I remember thinking for so many years when I was auditioning for things, man, if I go in there and I'm like undeniable, you know, I can do it. Like, I just got to show them, I can do it. And then you wouldn't get it. And then being on this side of it, you see actor after actor come in and they're all great. And everybody is just different. And there's no like right or wrong. It's sort of like whatever makes sense for this, whatever we need for this. And no one person is really capable of giving the performance the other person is giving. So I think you start, I just started to, yeah, you start to let go of like

whenever you're acting, there's going to be a lot that's really bad. And from the, from the wrong angle, even something that looks cool here, might look really dumb there. And it's really a magic trick. It's like this highly technical thing. And so you're very dependent upon all of these other people to kind of lift you up. It's the key to also find the right collaborators and the director that's going to protect you in the edit because like every actor's been burned and been like taking a chance and then seeing the final cut and be like, yeah, you use that.

Dude, I literally said this to Lance the other day. Inevitably, whenever you watch anything, you're like, that take or this. But then with Lance, it is, dude, the opposite. it to the degree that I'm like, when did I do that? Like, how'd you, how did he, he, he's, the way he sees things, the way David Bowen sees things, his cinematographer, like, I have never, uh, it's such a privilege to get to like, I said to Boland, like, I was looking at the monitor. It was like, dude, every frame you set up is like a painting. Yeah. And to get to step into that world. Yeah. It's like amazing. It's also cool. Like I was fascinated when like a film actor can go from the doc side

to the narrative side, like Lances. We were just talking. He's all he's killing it right now. I got a chance to see the Nathan Fielder doc, which he also directed. I'm so jealous. You're going to fucking die. But did that bring, I mean, could you sense like a different kind of approach to filmmaking because of the doc pedigree? Big time. Yeah. Lance, like, it's so alive with him.

He really operates in that place of like, I don't know that he really has, he has a shot list, but him and David, who he's worked with for many years, like, they are so comfortable operating from a place of uncertainty. going like it's very exciting it results in this process where it feels like anything could happen yeah and um things can change very quickly whatever's working and like going to that going away from something rewriting something and also it's like best idea wins they have no like lance is the most egoless there's no he could have spent a year thinking about something but the second something else pops up he's like let's go with that i like that and yeah things felt so alive all of the time

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It's these real world circumstances he's putting himself in, which is kind of fascinating. Right. Are you the type of actor? Like, have you ever brought a character out into the real world? Like, are you like going to Starbucks as Jimmy Olson just to see like if it works? Like, you know, I did something recently, just this small thing where I was in like, I was in like, I had like neck tattoos, neck tattoos and like a fake beard. Oh.

And so I just looked like a man. I just looked like a hard man. And then me and my castmates. That's how you normally look. This is the mask. And an alternate universe that I felt. And then two of my castmates who also had the same look, we had like half an hour off and we went to this in and out down the road.

And I never felt more respected in my life. And I was like, man, this is what it feels like to like, this is amazing. So that was like to think took a character out in the world. But ultimately, no. I would feel too, I feel like that requires such confidence. I don't know that I could, I would like, you know, on set for prime time, oftentimes just because, like, Dan was in, like, this very isolated place or just some dark kind of thing. We're having so much fun and we'd all become such good friends. I had to, like, remove myself from that.

Right. So you kind of, you have, like, the dark cloud over your head and you're kind of, like, holing off to yourself. But as far as taking it, not yet. I'm excited for your neck tattoo beard phase. Not the character, just as a real person. In life. Thank you. Thank you, man.

I mean, you're 30 now. I'm young. I still can't, yeah, my dad always told me he couldn't grow a beard until he was 30. And I recently turned 30. Have you ever tried to grow a beard? Still waiting, you know. By the end of this interview, it's going to pop in. Something happens that's not, it's not good, you know, and it's not really a beard.

I see. But something does happen. Yeah, something's happening. But maybe 40. Maybe like. What is your, because it is interesting, kind of ties into the film. Look, you're playing a guy. who's playing younger, right?

And you have a very youthful disposition. Like, are you, and you are 30 now, like, have you kind of like, when's the last time you got offered a teenager role? Like, do you still kind of like, do people assume you're younger than you are? And is that, that's an asset, but it's also. Totally. Yeah, I think I remember being like, I remember maybe I was like 25 and I said to my reps. I was like, whatever the next thing is like, I don't think I could wear a backpack again.

I was like, maybe. That's my different. Maybe no more, or no more graphic teas, you know, with like a hoodie over it. Yeah, that's the, where I'm in a hallway. Yeah, for some actors, it's like, no nudity for you. It's like, I just can't do a graphic team. Not another Jansport. Yeah, please, please.

But, no, dude, definitely. And I think it's been, yeah, I know, like, in Fonkers, I play, like, a fiancé. Right. And that was like, I was like, oh, cool. I'm of age enough to get married to another human being. Yeah, totally. I felt when I was like, this is crazy, Beyonce, but I'm like, this is very age-appropriate and reasonable. But yeah, I think that's always been a theme.

And yeah, it's been like the last couple of years, it seems to have like there's been a shift towards more mature stuff maybe. Totally, totally. All right. So let's go back a little bit if you'll indulge me. So growing up, extrovert, introvert, what do friends' family say about young Skyler? How would they describe you? An extrovert to the nth degree, just like a maniac. Yeah, my poor family.

My poor, I don't know. We didn't really have any, like, connective tissue to the film industry or anything. So I don't know why I like had from I I like I like I I had I like I had this idea in my head that I wanted to be in movies I would watch the same things over and over and I would beg my mom to like let me be on TV whatever that meant yeah and uh I would like thankfully like humor me and uh I would like make us dress up and do like plays I love I like West Side Story a lot so I would like I've heard this I've heard you you are friends often West Side Story and Happy Gilmore. Those were the two movies that's not the usual double feature people go to. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I love. I love. I like West Side Story. I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't I don't know, West Side Story, I don't know why I fixated on these two things. Happy Gilmore, my mom, my uncle showed me, well, he was watching me when my parents were out of town. My mom was not pleased because there, yeah, she felt it was not appropriate. Okay. But so, yeah, young, from an early age, very, we would go to like, when we first came to L.A., we were walking around.

I was like six or seven. And in Santa Monica, all of like, on the promenade, all of the, I would just like put a hat down and start, like, dancing to other people's music. Yeah. Yeah. I don't do it. I don't know what was going on. Do you still do that if you just like the beat, the beat gets into during the strike, actually.

Yeah. Yeah. It was, yeah, I hit the promenade. And, uh, yeah. What was your go-to move at six or seven on the promenade? Like, what were you doing? I don't know that I physically could do the go-to move anymore. I don't know that there was a go-to move as much as just felt the, in your body.

You just let the body move. Let the body on the body. She would take me to this place, Millennium, where I would take hip-hop. I loved it. I was like, I want to go to millennium. And then there was a, sounds like a. Sounds like a club. It, dude, it kind of was.

It was, like, very, like, it was very cool. Like, a lot of real dancers went there. And was it cool? It's probably not for me to say. If I was there. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't know why I'm bashing millennium. Hold me accountable.

I appreciate it. It's your job. But there was the kids area. And then there was the dome where, like, the real, like, adult stance. Like, backup dancers were coming. And I was like, um, these kids can't hang with me. I got to get to the dome. And so she took me to the dome.

And I do, I don't know why they let me do any of this. I was like seven just popping. it in the dome. Pumping it at the dome. I think that's what they called it. Yeah. That's a euphemism for something nowadays. I don't know what it means.

But to answer your question, that was, yeah, I just loved it. I loved always, I don't know why. Yeah. Did you get in on either audition or up for other the Happy Gilmore sequel or the West Side Story reboot? Neither. What the hell? Yeah.

Can you believe that? I know. Hopefully there'll be more. I'll be more. I'm sure they'll do another West Side Story movie, a sequel at some point. Everybody ends up totally fine. at the end of that movie. Yes.

So what do you remember about the early audition days? Like, I mean, rejection is hard for an adult. How is rejection for a seven or eight-year-old? Or were you? I think part of the gift of starting young is the rejections lost on you. There's not a sense of like, yeah, it doesn't hurt. You know, you don't have a sense of the stakes. You're just bopping around from room to room.

And like, I think the early days were crazy because it would be you'd show up and it was just cattle calls. Like you'd show up to a commercial. There'd be 100 kids there. They'd want to find the kid that day. Yeah. So you'd be it was it was but I loved I just loved it and there was so many also when you're younger There's so many things to audition for when you're kind of auditioning for everything so like every day was sort of go go go

I don't remember ever Feeling dejected or like there was things I really wanted that I'd be bummed I didn't get but it was always just like on to the next one Did you have like a type was there like oh this is like this is your wheelhouse like It's a good question. I don't know like I did all the you know I did like the when I was young the guest like all the procedural and all of the you kind of do the rounds you know like the cold case the monk I saw the mud yes yes dude mug strong medicine we are like all of those kinds of uh I guess as I got a little bit older the archetype was like it seemed to be this thing that was working was just this like overly earnest right sort of like you know well-intentioned do we be dude kind of thing sure that like

seemed to be what was work but you also don't really have an awareness of like what what's were I think especially at that age, you're not aware of, like, perception or how you're coming off. You're kind of just like, it's why it's so, you know, kids are just so free. It's, you know, you're just sort of like being you. You're not really thinking about that much. Do you think about a transition point of like where it kind of went from just behavior, like being yourself to like putting some craft into it and kind of like thinking about it more intellectually as an actor? Yeah, great question.

I think there was a few like formative. I think when I was 17 doing night at the museum with was enormously, It was my first time being like a big part of a very big movie and You know Ben Stiller was like just such a hero of mine and seen the way that he worked like He you know how methodically he worked how precise it was how much of like it it was it really like I think set something in motion for me of like I had been because I never really formally studied or trained or anything It was sort of like learning on the job learning from people and so seeing Ben at that age of that time I was like like, oh dude, this is what it takes.

Like, this is what it looks like. This is what you have to like, you know. And in something like Night of the Museum, it's like, you know, you would think of it's like, oh, you just show up and you just do the third movie. Right. And it's also like he's playing kind of an every man. So he could and many actors would and still be great. Just sort of like show up and do it.

And he cared so deeply. And everything mattered a lot. And it's like it should do. Like people, this is a big movie. Like there's a lot of money on the line. Like this is a huge. It's just the, you know, the idea of like being worthy of the opportunity and like earning it and working for. And so that really, that's why it's so cool to get to work with him again because it had been this like, you know, those waves kind of like.

And then, yeah, every job you kind of like a little bit rubs off on you. Book smart was a really big, you know, at 22. Like Olivia, that was, I feel like so much of acting is just confidence, you know, like having the confidence to, try things to sort of like be comfortable not knowing you know what you're going to be being confident enough to fail and Olivia like gave us so much room to run and to be that young and to be told like you know I want you to just go go for it like I want you to do this and that and like it was the first time I felt like that was sort of yeah that was a very kind of formative experience in that way of like it there was it started this fire in me of like oh I love this that was so it was like this joyous

thing making that movie I remember. thinking like this feeling like I want I want to chase this what was the feeling you got out of working on the air bud films that inspired you as an actor oh dude well those were dark you know that was like everybody was really in uh I was committed you know I lived I built the house actually that my character lived in I was lived there for a few months on the property I had how many airbud movies did you do can you rank them for me what's the top what should I start with what should I go well there's air buddies yeah classic yeah I'm not gonna no shave right try it. Snow buddies, space buddies. Spooky buddies, treasure buddies. Yep.

Santa buddies. And in the, in one of the movies, and again, I don't know why I'm talking about things that people don't watch or no doubt. But in one of the movies, I think it's spooky buddies. I'm the voice of B-Dog and I'm the main live action kid who is B-Dog's owner. And I didn't have like the tools to like, I was like 10. I wasn't changing my voice. It's just me. being like, what do you want to do today, B dog? Well, and then it's B dog being like, whatever you think. That's fucked up. I don't know.

That's not the lack of oversight. Dude, I don't know, but it worked, I guess. That probably broke some kids' brains. Yeah. Why is B dog talking? I've always thought that. I've always knew something was off. Wow.

So I should start with which. Oh, sorry. You know what? I think spooky buddies, I think we found, our groove on spooky buddies. I like kind of like you started staring off to space. You went somewhere else when you were thinking about it. I wish I could remember. Dude, I can't. Yeah. Oh my God. More happy, say I confused coming up.

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That's crazy to think about. What do you remember about working with Jennifer, who is, I mean, I've done a lot with, I'm obsessed with her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, I mean, that show was like the last, uh, of a sort of dying breed of like, you know, live act. Multi-cam. Multi-cam.

Thank you. Multi-cam. Right. And so being, you know, nine years old and like live audience, it was so much fun. We, I lived for the Friday nights. And it was so crazy because I think Jen, she did, um, I think it was like between season two and three that she did. Like Winter's Bone?

Winter's Bone. Yeah. Great. And this show, like, could have been, it could not have been more night and day. I remember, my memory's not good. I remember, we like, I think fought like brother and sister. Like, we were like very close. There was like, you know, me, her and our Graham, who played our brother.

We were all very close. And like, we, I idolized both of them. Because I was that age where like, I think they were five, six years older than me. And so I just thought they were, I thought her and Graham were like the two coolest people in the world. So whenever I could be like, please, can I hang out with you? But I, you know, you at that age, you have like a studio teacher and you have to go to, you know, set and everything to school. But yeah, it is such a trip, such a trip. I think I saw like a clip from that show recently.

I think the whole thing's like on YouTube or something. Bill Engball. There are any Bill Engball fans out there? Yeah. Appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So again, it doesn't get much more diverse. We're going from Bill Engval, everybody's to PTA. Not the usual path. But, I mean, that's got to be a moment to get into licorish pizza with like every actor is like, dying to work with Paul Thomas Anderson. That's the moment for sure. Right? Yeah, that's like that was the most surreal.

It's like the greatest of all time. You know, you can, you can never even like, I don't think, uh, I could not have fathomed of ever having the opportunity to be in his world. What's the vibe on a PTA set? What's, like, weird, like, my stuff was like fun. I like, like, it was like really like he, you know,

the audition process was like, I sent in this tape and like, he, he called and I think I've told the story before but he on this face time where he was basically giving me the role he like asked me if I played piano and I don't and without missing a beat I said I've been playing my entire life and I went to the extreme I went to the extreme not just like yeah I do a little bit like no I'm a trained penis I could have just said it would have been a lie it would have been a lie to be like yeah I play a little bit yeah but I swung for the fences yeah dude I said I've been playing my whole life and and and And then I, and he was like, oh, great. So you're going to play this song, Scott Joplin's the

entertainer, like, should be, you know, not too hard. And I was like, great. And we hang up and I immediately listened to the song. And if it was any other director, I would have called back right away and been like, you know what, dude, like, I think we maybe should have a contingency plan. I'm listening to the song and it's, but I just, it was terrified. So terrible. I was like, you can't. How much time did you have to? We had 10 weeks. And I just thought like, in that way that act, that delusional, what the actors think you kind of can just, I was like, this will be my full time job. I have nothing else to do. If I have to play eight hours a day, I'll play.

And I did, I played legitimately probably like five hours a day every day. The whole time thinking, like waking up in cold sweats, like, I'm not, today's the day. I call him and come clean and like tell him I can't. And then like a week before I was the first time I was like, I think I'm going to be able to do this. And we do it, show up, do the scene. It goes like great. All of the filming. So we have like the best time.

Like it was like a really fun experience. And then doing ADR a couple of months later. I'm on FaceTime with Paul again. And I was like, how's the movie looking man? And he's like, oh, it looks great. We cut the piano stuff, but everything else looks great. And I was like, all right, okay, right on, man, right on. And he's like, yeah.

And I thought, I was too scared to tell him. You never told, at some point you told him. Never told him. Never told him. Never told him. I told his wife. She was like, you got to tell him. I was like, I've never, I don't know, I tell.

What now? I hope, you know, if he's, he's pleaded. I hope he, but he knows because hilariously, which I didn't know, you don't really get to be the script. There's a scene in the movie where Cooper Hoffman's character, he's getting ready to go to his first audition. And Alana Heim tells him, whatever they ask, yes. And there's a scene where she's like, fencing.

He's like, yep, horseback riding. And then like she's getting to the point where she's like, she knows he's lying. And so, you know, he knows it was life imitating art. That's amazing. Yeah. Briefly, I want to mention Regist Gemstones. I mean, McBride was sitting in that seat not so long ago.

Oh, was he really? The best, as you know. The coolest man. He's created his own world out there and it's just making it work. Yeah. What do you learn from a set like that working with someone from like McBride? Dude, so much. Danny is like,

maybe just the nicest guy like in Hollywood and he's, you know, he learned so much like from the way that he works, but also like outside of the work itself, the life stuff. Like he cracked the code. He cracked the code. He like,

you know, it's like him and his best buddies and his, these guys he goes so far back with and like, they just do it together and like it's a family and his the crew you know everybody like he there's so many different versions of like you know it's you know to you there's so many different ways to do this job and like have this career and the way that he's gone about it the way he takes care of people and looks out after people it's it's amazing and the way that he were like yeah i learned so much from like he doesn't dandy doesn't really like he he doesn't really write jokes

Like all of the comedy comes from the characters. Yeah. You know, so sometimes you read scenes of his and like, you don't even realize how funny it is until it's on its feet. And then he just has that quality where like the second he starts talking. And he's also like, part of his brilliance is like, as I'm sure he felt, he's like the smartest guy in the room. But he has no, he so does not need anybody to know that. But he's like the most voracious reader I've ever met. His output is crazy.

Like I remember, you know, it's tough to get him to like talk too much about his own stuff. But like his output, the amount that he writes. much poor is like he's such a workhorse and like and just the nicest dude and that that vibe he's such a nice guy that like even if like a really unkind person showed up on that set you would feel so embarrassed to be anything other than the night it just neutralizes any kind of he's the man yeah maybe you can pop up with GI Joe he's doing the GI Joe movie no dude crazy get in there that'd be cool that be cool well you do have stuff going on needles to say Jimmy Olson let's talk to me also Okay.

So famously, tell me this is true. I believe this is true. When the audition, the opportunity comes around, you thought at first maybe you were auditioning for for soups. That's right. Yeah. Okay. That's all good.

You could have been a great Superman. Thank you, man. I really appreciate you saying that. So at what point did you know? To be, I don't, man, I really, I don't know why I had the idea in my head. I don't, I got sent it and I thought, and I looked at it because I told the story, I look back, the side said Jimmy. They said Jimmy.

Right. But I thought, I had this idea in my head that it was dummy. For whatever reason, I skimmed, sometimes I didn't read, you get these emails about it, where they were very long, a lot of information. And I was like, oh my God, you know, very exciting Superman. And for whatever reason I had the idea in my head, I was like, I think it's like, I think it's for Superman. And Guns always because he's cool and imagined it, I was like, maybe it's like more

a normal, every man kind of thing. And so I sent in that tape fully thinking, this is for Superman. So if I look at that tape, Do I get Superman vibes? Like, are you... Apparently not. I... Like, do you remember how you were playing it?

Like, you know, like... No, I played... I knew I was like, I just gotta be me, you know? And if that's what he's looking for... So I was, I was... Yeah, thank God I did not try to do... Yeah. That's my Superman.

That's an insight. There it was. Oh, wow. That's what David does. And then the first time I told James that story, after he, dude, he laughed harder and then anybody, he laughed so hard and that felt great. It's like, how could you think the. I was like, I don't know.

It's a little insulting, James, but okay. It's not that funny. But no, that was so, I mean, you talk about like just a golden ticket, like total magic carpet ride from the beginning. It was this, to be in like, Gunn is, he's just like such a dreamer. He's got like, and he has the entire movie in his head always. and he, you know, he just sees it so clearly. And to have like a captain, you feel like, oh, man, we can't.

And he said one of the things that really stuck with me, like when we first, I got the movie and then I didn't start filming for like a year. And so he had so much time to freak out and be like, man, this is a really big deal, like Superman and finally comes around. And like in three days, we shot like 80% of my stuff in the first movie in this like, because we only had this location for a little while. So it just felt like all this time to think about it. And then it was gone.

It was done. And so we're at this dinner, like, that week, and it was kind of spiraling a little bit, I think. And, like, James was like, Jimmy, calls me Jimmy. He's like, Jimmy, how you doing down there? And I was like, half joking, like, I don't know, man, kind of freaking out a bit. Maybe I feel like I blew it or something, you know? And he got really serious. And he was like, have you seen my movies?

And I was like, yeah, he's like, do you think that, like, have you ever thought someone was bad in my movie? And I was like, no. He's like, right. He's like, I did my job. I did my. It's like, you're, don't always like, this is good for me to know. But, like, you. And it was kind of this thing where it's like, oh, yeah, dude, like, it's not about this guy is like, this movie.

There's so many moving pieces. He's got that. And it was just like this massive relief of like, he's got it. Like that's the, I'm here to do my job. I'm a crazy actor in my own head. You can't, you can't concern yourself with like there's just so much. You have no idea editorially what he's thinking. You don't know like structurally where you are in the movie or tonally what's seen your call, where you're going.

Like you try to think about, but you just can't know. Yeah. And so you kind of like, yeah. And then he's also, as much as he knows the material and has like always keeps us, he also, like, gives us so much room to try things and run. And like, it is such a, it's a truly a dream, dream job. Looking back, and I've seen Superman a lot. I love that movie. What he did, what you all did.

It was fantastic. Thanks, man. Is Jimmy a good guy? He treats Tessmacher. I don't know. I don't know how I would, like, I don't want to be too judgey, but what do you defend Jimmy's actions if you can. I think I First of all

I'm glad you brought this up It's alarming to hear I'll work on that I mean we finish the second I hope the second I'm nicer I'll work on it for the third I think you're a mean

guy I know what you're I mean you're a hero in the film Let's let's say that But Jimmy's really put upon I think the huge Yeah I thought I think when Sarah's so funny

And from her first audition She had this energy That was like she was just So bubbly and sweet And I think James and I both thought Like the funniest version of this is just

Jimmy being so put upon by this person who was like so sweet, so well-intentioned, doting on him. And so sort of the more she went that way, it felt like the more I was going the other way. And that's just like how it shook out, you know. I think Jimmy's a good. I think Jimmy, at the end of the day, he wants, you know, only the best. And I think you'll be happy to see in the second, no spoilers, but I think you'll be happy to see. How what was the environment on man of tomorrow? We just had Adria here. Oh, no way.

Yeah, it was just awesome. How was her costume? She was very secretive with me. I haven't seen it, yeah. You haven't seen, you didn't work with her? No. Oh, man. You're fine.

I don't know. Yeah, I didn't know. That's another set where like nobody, but also nobody can keep secret. Right. You know everything. Gun will come up to him and he'll be like, Pete Saffron. It's like, yeah, runs this. He'll be like, don't tell Pete.

Pete, but uh, no, no, no. And then Pete will be like, well, don't tell James, I told everybody. You all need to stop talking. And then Lars, our live producer, like, James and Pete told you, all right, what I. And then like everybody. Do you get a whole script for a song like that? Yeah. Yeah, you do.

Okay. Yeah, which is awesome. And it was so much fun. It's such a great. That movie truly feels like, uh, because we film a lot of it at the studio, uh, where there's not a ton out there. And so there's across from the studio one hotel, like, with like, it's like, kind of like the Truman Show.

There's like one street, one of, one of, one. of everything you need. And it's sort of built to support the ecosystem of like the filmmaking. And so everybody literally, I've never been on a set like that where like everyone hangs out 24-7 because like you can't hide. Like there's no, so we get dinner every night and like James usually spearheads it. And like it feels like you're at summer camp. It's like such a wonderful group of people. You feel confident about what you guys were able to do. It's wrapped by now. It feels like special in its own way. I hope so. I really do think, I mean, I think I think that This is a better, an even a better movie.

I think that it's a, yeah, I don't, I'm so terrified of saying anything. I shouldn't say, but James, I just think he's sort of like, it's a theme with him. He just like, he has this superpower of like the first movie. He sees what everyone brought to their characters. And then in this script, you read it. And he just sort of like zoomed in on what worked for everybody and like put it even more into their voice and sort of like just gives you more. You know? Yeah.

I think it went well. I think it went good. Okay. So you're also knee deep in this Gorilla Grodd show. Yeah. Which, I mean, that's a high compliment that like the first spin off, et cetera, from this universe. Totally. Like, when did that come up? Was that on set? Like, that must be a nice phone call email or something when James is like, we have this idea for the show.

We want to center Jimmy. Totally. You know what's funny? From the beginning, it was one, I guess, like, it was one of the first ideas early, but even before the movie James had been and he wanted something like a mockumentary set in this way he just he thought it would be great and then

you know Dan and Tony like literally who better than like American Bandle is I think like just unbelievable and so when I first got the first movie they were talking about it it was like it was in the works but you sort of like it sounded so amazing that I didn't want to let myself get excited

about it because you're like who knows like there's someone this and that and the next thing and like to be doing it now it's Like I said, I'm such an enormous fan of Dan and Tony. And I can't believe we're getting to do it. I don't, I've never seen anything like it. I mean, the set photos, usually I'm not watching, looking at the set photos. I'm trying to avoid it.

But check them out, guys. So what am I looking at? Is there a guy in a, there's a guy in it? Demetrius, yeah, they're a great body actor in, and he's, I will never, I never, I said, like, no actor should ever complain ever again. This guy's in this full suit. We're in Atlanta. It's like 100 degrees. Like 100% human.

They're pumping cold air in. He's got to get the head off like every 10 minute. He's unbelievable. He's singing apparently. I've seen some stuff. He's maybe singing. And the puppet team did an incredible job. It's, I think, practically, we're going to be able to get away with a lot and not need

to rely as much on CGI as they thought. I love it. Yeah, because I thought like it would be awkward acting across from him, kind of like tennis ball acting. Yeah. But the puppet, it's so you look into his eyes and you like immediately care about him and you feel like you're talking to somebody and it's been really fun. So tonally, is it going to feel like American vandalish?

Like super funny? Like super awkward? I think so. I think that it is in that world tonally and then I think the stakes because it's also you know, Metropolis. I think it's sort of like that kind of comedy, but with the, the Annie kind of revved up a little bit. I can't wait.

Honestly. Okay. Also, I'm seeing this very soon. They're giving me a sneak peek. I think Fokker and Law. Yes. Yeah. I'm very excited about this.

Yes. Obviously, you mentioned before, you're reteaming with Ben, which must be rewarding. Totally. Then you add, you know, Ariana Grande into the mix, I assume you're doing a lot with, since you are partners in the film. Yeah. De Niro Needless to say. Again, you've worked with a lot of luminaries. Totally, man.

What's that set like looking to the left, De Niro to the right, Ariana Grande. Awesome. It's like Superman where you're like, you know, coming into, and just those movies meant so much to me as a kid. And like, it's a real. Yeah, it is having, and also John Hamburg, who like, he's such a hero of mine. Like, yeah, it was very much like. He gave us sharding with Philip Seymour Hoffman back in the day. Long came Polly.

Yeah, man's a genius. The best. Dude, the best. The best. Yeah. So, so, so nervous coming in. Having work with Ben before was like very helpful. And John's like the nicest dude.

Ari is like the loveliest person. And everyone calls Robert De Niro. Bob. Bob was so warm. that it was immediately a very familial environment. And, like, it was so much fun. I know that, I was very nervous about, I might have said this before,

but like calling, everybody calls Robert De Niro, Bob. Right. But I knew it would be insane for, I wasn't going to, he's the greatest actor of all time. I wasn't going to come to set and be like, Hey, Bob, how you doing? So it was like, Mr. De Niro, of course, you know. So I met him, hey, Mr. De Niro, how you doing so nice to meet?

And I'm playing his grandson, you know, so he's like, playing your grandson. And he's like, okay, nice to meet you. And then the first week of Philadelphia, And he goes by, like Monday, Tuesday. I'm like, hey, good morning, Mr. De Niro. And by the middle of the week, I was starting to sense that, like, he wanted me to not call him, Mr. De Niro. And more energetically, it felt like it was time to grab.

But he wasn't going to, he's so, he's like this very chill guy. It just felt like it was time. Okay. I couldn't do it. I was like nervous. I was nervous to go to Bob. And so I made a game plan that Friday when we wrap end of week one going into the weekend. So if it goes poorly, I have time.

I'm going to, I'm going to lay the first Bob on him. And it had been like. Because I'm playing it's supposed to be like a warm work. Sure. And so like Friday we wrap. I was like ramping myself up. And I was like, all right, Bob, thanks for a great week, man. And like, I could have been reading too much into it.

But I think I saw a glimmer in his eye. And he was like, I'm happy. The famous De Niro, a little kind of. It's been weird that you kept coffee, Mr. DeNehombo. But you insist that he calls you, Mr. Dezondo. Yeah, yeah. He once slipped up and said Skyland. I was like, Mom, what are we do?

We're not there. We're not quite there. Yeah. What are we doing? But it was really. we had a really fun time making that movie and I've seen it. I think it's very sweet. I'm excited for people to see it. You're also in the new Shrek movie, which is probably going to make a a gazillion dollars. It really probably will. I'm putting my money on that one. Were you a

Shrek person? Like is that a part of your childhood? Yeah, everybody. I think all of it like, you know, that is the job of everything going on. That is the one everybody in my life has been like, dude, Shrek. Like everything else is a cool. Like, super, is all right. Truly, truly, Shrek is, that's the I've arrived moment.

Yeah, everybody. And for me too, I, yeah, I can't, it's, it's been,

uh, true, the most, because you're doing the record. Right. And they're playing like, I have a scene and I'm listening to Eddie Murphy's donkey. And you're like,

I can't, oh my God, if like little me could see this is the most like, you know, that is the most surreal moment of it all, I think. Have you met any other cast members? No,

you're just in a race. Unfortunately not, because you're doing it. You know, it's all isolated, you know. This will be a press story you'll actually look forward to. Yes, very much. You'll get to meet everybody. Very much.

So, okay. So what are we, I mean, not that you need to manifest much at this point because you're very, very busy. Yeah. But like, it does feel like you're in a bit of a transitional point dictated by the kind of opportunities you've had and made the most of, dictated by your age, where you're at. Like, what are you, you know, 20s went well. What are the 30s hold for you?

What are you hoping? I hope, honestly, you know, I think, truly working with Rob lit this kind of fire under me of like whatever it is, whatever it looks like, I look forward to like continuing to do these challenging things that feel very outside of my comfort zone, hopefully, and taking big swings. And I'm doing this next thing in the new year, this, say, 24 movie called Goblin. Yeah, that sounds crazy. Which is a swing. It's insane. Yeah, it's, other than primetime, the most insane thing I've ever read. And I'm really looking forward to like getting weird with it.

So you're not the goblin. Kenneth Bronis, the goblin. Of course. Yeah. Of course. Time casting. Yeah. So, but not physically.

He's like a voice of a goblin. He's the voice. Yeah. It's like a two and a half foot tall. Sure. Green guy. Yeah, like a practical puppet. And that requires, I think, like 10 or 11 puppeteers simultaneously.

the test footage I've seen looks amazing. And yeah, I think, yeah, hopefully that's it for the 30s, man, just continuing to as much goblin work as possible. As much, between the Grod and that, yeah, as much puppet stuff. I mean, you went crystal monkey way back today, monkeys, gorillas, goblins. Yeah, that's the comforts. Where do we go next? I don't know, man.

Yeah, good question. Yeah, maybe back to break dancing on the promenade. I was going to say back to the dome probably. Back to my roots. Yeah. Basking and back to the dome. I've always found my inspiration at the dome. Yeah, one in doubt.

One in doubt. Before we wrap it up, happy second few is profoundly random questions for you, Skyler. You ready? Okay. Are you a dog or a cat person? Dog. You have one? Not currently.

Okay. That's okay. Look at this unbroken eye contact. Very got a 10 for a second. Yeah, we just locked in. We just locked in. What do you collect? What do I collect?

What do I collect? That's a good question. I don't really, uh, uh, uh, It can be nothing. Nothing, I guess. Surfboards kind of. Okay. I don't collect it.

I just have too many. You have a few. Yeah. But that's, yeah, I don't know. I'd like to collect like guitars. I think that I play it. That's cool. Right.

Right now. Piano's you're a famous pianist. Yeah. And I've always said that. Yeah. And so piano, I actually have a large collection. Very low. Maybe the largest in the world.

Wow. That's cumbersome. Yeah. It's just, that's my life. That's what I do. Favorite video game of all. time? Breath of the Wild, maybe. I'm not like a big video game guy, but that game got me, dude. I don't know who put me on to it, but oh my God, I just, the months disappeared into it's like the

most fun. Have you played? I haven't. I mean, I know of it, but yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing. And now there's a game. I know I'll play Mario Party with my friends sometimes. I love Mario Party. And there's a, I, but the majority, I play backgammon on my phone. And that, that's 99% of a sophisticated, sophisticated gamer. Like a sophisticated, I have sunk, I, at the end of my life, if you could see how many, I would, I have no, it's going to have been years by the end. I'm playing backgammon on my phone. Any interest in the grand theft auto? This is about to take over pop culture, you know. Yeah. The games, I get, you know, as a kid, my mom wouldn't let me play the violent ones. And now as an adult, I find they make me a little, a little anxious, a little upset. I'm like, this,

this poor guy didn't deserve to get hit by a car and that, I don't want to do that to that guy. So I don't really enjoy. I don't like that one. Okay, Dakota Johnson asked me this. I ask everybody. Would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one be in your butt? Be in the butt. Yeah. Be in the butt. What did she say? 90% of people say be in the butt.

That is the prevailing wisdom. I feel like just practically because bees in the mouth, you don't know if they're going down to the, and then you have other problems. Be in the butt. Yeah. I don't think he's going to be able to get deeper. Unlikely.

It depends on the finessey of the bee. Right. I'm not up, I'm not abreast of the, you know, but I'll get some medical. texts out and see if we could get some input be in the butt for now uh what's the wallpaper on your phone it's uh picture me and my girlfriend last actor you were mistaken for uh all the time will polter uh from not anymore not not not boat not anymore but like five years ago jeremy allen white and will polter because will polter did the the year where the millers came out yeah is the year vacation came out and both were like rated our family road trip comedies and we both play like the awkward teenage son

where the millers made like a way bigger splash you're up and and so uh yeah people i it got to the point where there's at one point i just felt bad not telling me so i've taken pictures with people who think that i'm i've told store i've spun tales of like how i was like production was great was great really like how was it because they're so excited yeah you're yeah you're like it's not me yes send. So you're like, oh my God, Cedakis the man. Yeah. Oh, my God. They're like, oh, that's and I've always wondered if he ever, I doubt it. He catches up with him. Or that he gets a reverse. And then before Jeremy Allen, like, I got like jacked and became a huge movie star. And these guys like, look, he still looks so cool. People were like, oh my God, from shameless.

And a handful of times, the kid from everybody hates Chris. Oh. And I recently was in an airport. And this woman, God bless her, would not refuse to believe I was not. She's like, oh my God. And I was like, no, oh, let me see a picture. No. She's like, quit playing with that's it. And I was like, no, that she facetimes like her cousin. She's like, tell me. Come, come. She's like, tell me this isn't. I was like, it's not me. And her cousin was like, that's you quit messing around. And I was like, I promise, I would tell you, I swear to God. It's my government issued ID. Yeah. I walked away, both of them thinking I'm a piece of shit who just won't acknowledge that I'm the kid from everybody hates Chris. Well, you're well known

to be that. Um, well, no, worst note of director has ever given you. Damn. You don't need to name names unless you want to. Oh, wow, good question. I don't, I've been lucky, man. I wish I had a good answer for you. I think the only mistake, it's not a note, it's getting a note before you've done the take.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Preemptively kind of closing something off. It's like, hey, I was thinking that that can be, because it's sort of like, you know, you get one, you're going to tell me, and we're going to do it like, we'll do it one. Let's do one where we have no. idea what's gonna before there's any but I've never gotten like a bad right that's good yeah yeah

been lucky okay been lucky and finally in the spirit of happy second fuse who's an actor who always makes you happy you see them on screen you're happy I think I'd say Ryan Gosling I think I mean who you know who doesn't but he there's he there's such a joy in his and everything of his I've been a fan of his like forever for my whole you know everything from the beginning but yeah he just and it seems like he's only he's only getting more and more in the pocket right um But yeah, I'd watch, yeah, anything, I think. Movie that makes you sad? I always forget if it's, I always, it's one of my favorite movies,

and I always mess up the title, about love or about time? About time. About time. It's so, I can't have you got to be able to talk about. It's so beautiful, but it's so, yeah, and it is so uplifting, and there's something, but there's something, oh, it's so sad. Yeah. It's so sad.

No, it's a good one. But it's so good. And a food that makes you confused. Food that makes me confused. Yeah. I don't, I'm really, I, I will, I don't venture out enough. I will eat the same thing. I don't give myself the opportunity to get confused because especially when I'm alone,

I'm doing like rotisserie chickens over this, I'll, I will eat the same thing every day for months. If I'm not, like, I will walk at home, there's a Bristol Farms right across, I will just walk in chicken terriockey bowl every day. You can set your clock. Or then after like three months, I'll move off of that. And there's like this place, Benet, this Mexican place. I'll go get the Cornice Saddle bowl every day. every day for months right and I don't venture out enough um so I don't yeah I don't

often get confused okay I'm just reliving the same day over and over and over and over version for Schuyler I'm just like I'm just I just want the slop man I just want a bowl right just a bunch of meat just a bunch of rice that just means like something inputted it's not there for the pleasure just just no pleasure involved yeah it is just calories in calories out ugh I've never related to someone less in my life literally what's your answer what I mean, there's plenty of things I don't like, but I like food is why I'm living my life. Yeah. Like not you just to keep you alive.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I agree to disagree. I get anxious by the idea of like, you know, group, everyone loves a group dinner. Sure. Right. But it's always family style and it's like a bunch of small play. So you're playing this game the whole time.

Oh, I don't like that. I don't like sharing. Oh, I want someone else to get that first. And then you're like, oh, did I take too much? I take too. Next thing you know, you've been there for three hours. You're still hungry. Yeah.

You didn't eat anything fulfilling. Yeah. You're like, I'm going. I wish I had my slop. Yeah, you're just in the corner with your little chicken terriaki bowl. Yeah. Like a monster. Yeah, like a monster.

Okay. Yeah. I appreciate you doing this. John, thank you so much for having, man. I didn't mention at the start. Like, you haven't done a lot of this. So I really appreciate you trusting me. Oh, thanks for having.

Thanks for having you, man. It's coming at a great moment. Congratulations on primetime, Falker-in-law, Shrek, goblin-related material. And I'll see you at the dome. I'll see it. Dude, I'll hold you to do that, please. All right. I'll see how to tell.

Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thanks, man. And so ends another edition of happy, sad, confused. Remember to review, rate, and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley, and I definitely wasn't to do this by Josh.

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