HardLore - 100th Episode Q&A Special

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

Colin and Bo celebrate their momentous 100th episode with a massive HardLore Q&A, answering questions sent by the viewers. We can't thank you enough for the past 100 episodes, we wouldn't have made it past the few handful without your support. Here's to a million more. HardLore is now on Patreon! Join now to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepod HardLore Official Website/HardLore Records store: https://hardlorepod.com Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef This episode is brought to you by ATHLETIC GREENS! Try AG1 at athleticgreens.com/HARDLORE to receive a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 travel packs of AG1. Get 20% OFF @manscaped + Free Shipping with promo code HARDLORE at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/hardlorepod/ TWITTER | https://twitter.com/hardlorepod SPOTIFY | https://spoti.fi/3J1GIrp APPLE | https://apple.co/3IKBss2 FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/colinyovng/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/ColinYovng FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM | https://www.instagram.com/bosxe/ TWITTER | https://www.twitter.com/bosxe Check out our merch at https://knotfest.com/store/?view=hardlore Find all of our videos at https://knot1.co/3vWXsbx TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 - It's a Q&A brother don't worry about the timestamps   HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER   For sponsorship opportunities, email us! [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Subscribe to the all-new hardlore Patreon now for early ad-free access to every episode and an exclusive episode every month. Mount Rushmore and Metallica Riffs. Battery? Dat-d-d-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. The end of that song where it's da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Right? My dad heard it one time and he went, oh, it's kind of a polka. And he, like, ruined it for me as a kid.

I was like, fuck. Because it is kind of a... Burr-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-ha-B. Today we come to you on the most joyous of occasions, Bo. Don't we? We really do. I was doing the math in my head, and it's all adding up, too. Right? Yeah.

Yeah, because about two years ago, we started a little thing, didn't we? And we missed a couple episodes here and there, did a couple minis that counted. All in all, today. Marks the 100th episode of Hardthor. Yeah. If you would have told me in 2022 that we're going to do at least 100 of these, I would have thought it would have been, oh, I guess we're doing like 10 years. If we were a TV show, we'd be in full syndication by now.

Yeah, straight up. We'd be set for life. But, you know, we'd prefer it this way, getting to talk about bands we love and music and share these things. with all of you. And we thought we would celebrate this momentous day by doing a special classic Q&A with our Patreon members, with our Discord members. So everybody sent us one billion questions the other day. And we're answering them for you now.

We hope you enjoy this. These are our favorites to do because it just feels like, you know, we're closely connecting with you all. Oh, beautiful. Gorgeous. So let's get right into it. Oh, congratulations on. 100 episodes. We did it.

Congratulations to you, buddy. You did probably 95 edits worth about. Yeah. And that's, from the bottom of my heart, it sure appreciate it. That was, it's funny thinking about how much, like, you didn't really have, you didn't have any kind of like editing training or anything. You just kind of knew how to do it. No, just high school final cut training.

And you just bit off a big old bite. Really did. And learned a lot, you know? Yeah. Developed like a language in like the reels and stuff. There's a lot of. Yeah. There's a lot of like the,

I'm still making the thumbnails on a little app on my phone. I don't know how to use Photoshop or anything like that. We're just making it work here. Yeah. Yeah. It's impressive. It's what we do. We make it work and we've made it work 100 times now.

At least. So here's 200 more. Yeah. 103 more, maybe. Let's get into the questions. Ready? Yes. First question is, Hardlore album composed by Colin and Bo when? I've had an idea. I have an idea, Bo.

Really? Can you share it? Do you want to hear it? Yeah, I do want to hear it. Yeah, I'm going to share the idea. I'm going to share the idea for everybody and see what the reception is like. We write a record together, right? Have people sing on different songs, like different people sing on every song. Interesting. And it'll just be called Hardlore. Now, that's what I call Hardlorn. That's good. That's good. And then, you know, guests can sing. What's nice about that is we can, it doesn't all have to be the same style.

Because we know so many people. We get fucking Porcel on there. We can just write a youth of today song. I've, it's all I ever want to do. Okay. Coming 2028. Maybe on episode 200, we'll put a single up. Let's see.

Favorite WWF pay-per-view from 2001? Boy, I don't know what 2000. I think I was out, but no, I was in. I was in, because I was definitely in. I remember September 11th. Like, I remember the, I remember Bubba Ray Dudley with the New York hardcore. N-H-Y-C. Yeah, I remember that.

New-hard York Corps. New-hard York Corps. Yeah. It's so stupid. Yeah, it sucks. I don't know, Royal Rumble. Always the best. Yeah, it is always the best.

I think my favorite Royal Rumble, I think, was 2000. It's the one where McFollies in it three times. But my God, that WrestleMania with the four-way, the McMahon in every corner? Yeah. Oh, no, this is way before that. This is a, there's a coffee, it's the coffin match with Sean Michaels and Undertaker is the main event. Wasn't 2001 or 2000 the four-way for the title? No.

If it was, then it's not the one I'm thinking of. Maybe it was 98 or 99. something. But that's like, when I think about an old pay-per-view, that's the one that's like, oh, this is the best thing I've ever seen. When are we getting a master killer of video games episode? That's a good idea. Very niche. Do you really want that?

That seems so specific. It seems pretty niche, but I would assume the majority, more people who watch Hardlore play video games than watch wrestling. That is absolutely true. So I think it probably would work. And you and I also like vastly different video games. 100%. So that would be fun.

This is a funny question. Okay. Most unconventional source of inspiration you guys have had for writing music. Parentheses, I guess this might be more for Colin than Beau for reasons. Thanks. Thank you for including the parentheses. Turning movie scores into breakdowns is one of life's great. pleasures for me.

Turning an orchestral arrangement into 0134. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A blast. Listen, a lot of John Williams is 0134. Lot of Zimmer 0134.

I see what you're saying. Zimmer's writing in the Hayprey scale, straight up. Especially like, Dark Knight is just like... Dada. It's... Duh, yeah.

Dun, da, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's slayer, you know. To answer the question, even though it's not really for me, when I was writing stuff for Wolftho, there was a Black Sabbath solo.

Just, I don't even remember the song. I was watching a live video. It just kind of like had it on the background. And Tony was just hitting this. Duna, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. And just kept. like hitting it the same scale over and over again over a solo and I just made a song out of it. Nice. Out of that solo. Just out of the solo, I was like, oh, this could go into another part and they never do it. So I kind of made the chorus.

Oh, isn't that the best? When you hear it and they're like, they don't resolve the melody in the way that you want to. So you just do it yourself. You do it. Exactly. It's awesome. Beautiful. Our Japanese toilets, the greatest toilets invented, obviously. Any toilet when I need it is the greatest toilet invented. Preach, brother. And the Lord knows I need. it. Which pop star do you think would translate in hardcore really well? Whether that be fronting a band or however

you interpret that. I think Gaga, obviously. Gaga was the first one that came to mind. Obviously. Obviously. Here's what I'll say. Check this out, dude. Olivia Rodriguez is on her way. Dude. She is on her way to discovering punk.

It's like she's minutes away from being punk chick. Well, the thing that that I don't understand is, like, Travis Barker is obviously, like, aware of hardcore to an extent. Of course. And friends with lots of people. So you would think, like, there would be more crossover? Like, you would think we would have seen it by now, is what I'm saying. Yeah, but we, I think the community would reject that unanimously, you know?

It happens. It keeps, it happens. They try and then it's, it fails. And it's fine. Mm-hmm. And then it's a reality check, you know? Right. But Olivia Rodriguez is, is, like, writing what, what, like,

Avril Levine was, like, one step away from actually being punk music in her heyday. Yeah. Olivia Rodriguez is way closer to that already than, then any, any of that, like, 2000s, kind of, like, angsty stuff was. Didn't Travis drum on her record? Did he? Yeah, I think so. I mean, the drums just rock on that record.

I think he produced the record with Good For You on it. I think I could be wrong. Yeah, I'm almost positive. If you're lying. This could be a big lie. That would be awesome. But that record is amazing. The new one's really good too.

I'm totally down with her. I'm Team. I'm Olivia straight up. I'm Team Olivia. But who would you like to see? Who got the Gaga? 100%. I mean, and Olivia.

But I'm a Gaga guy through and through. When the fame came out and I heard paparazzi, I couldn't believe it. Dark, scary pop music. Dude. Sign me up. Yeah. As we've done, a lot of her songs could be played as a heavy version. And it would...

There's a rifts. And you know she's got a scream in there. You know she's got one. She does it all the time. They're all over born this way. I was lying. Travis Parker had nothing to do with their record. It just really sounds like, it sounds like MGK.

It sounds like... You know, it sounds like... I mean, a lot of the MGK stuff was produced by a little Aaron, so that makes sense. He's just a... He's right there. His brothers in narrowhead, you know? Yeah, there you go. Can we get a one-hour episode of James Impressions?

I mean... I mean, honestly. You know, do you realize... So, I don't... The timeline's got a little fucky, so... when you guys are listening to this, you won't have heard the bracket episode yet, right? But we reach out to James for an episode coming up,

and the first thing he says is, I mean. I mean. So awesome. Will T.T. make their way to Atlanta anytime soon. I would love to. Most iconic pieces of gear in hardcore history. Oh, that's,

I've wanted to do an episode, and we kind of touched on it with Punk Rock. museum about these they're almost the nerd to me wants to think of them as like like erragon's sword like brian baker's guitar and shit that we ran into there brian baker's guitar sean martin's single pickup less paul is with no kill switch is pretty much the excalibur when it comes to hardcore um isn't that beautiful it it is beautiful one thing i i would love to talk to i hope maybe we can finangle something to talk to one of the youth of today guys at tied down, at tied down, if possible. They all, all of them back then played less Paul customs.

Yeah. And I think that might be why. But all, but like not just youth of today who Colin is implying a status of privilege. No, I'm just saying like, there were, you know, Connecticut was like, we don't want them. and New York was like, all right, fine, we'll take them. Yeah. I don't know. I wish I had a loz ball.

I don't have a loz ball. But like all of them. Like every band. And that was, what did that cost in 86, 85? And it was probably your dads or uncles or something. That's the thing. They were what? Like, realistically, a used classic custom at that time was probably what?

$600. bucks? Maybe. Yeah. And but that like inflation, that's two, three grand. Yeah. And then, but then add value on just the, it being vintage now, you're talking six to eight grand. Easily. Easy. But yeah, that seems like a, yeah, this was my dad's guitar type thing. Because you look at the Paris episode, you talk about him buying that. Yeah.

The, the bitch, as he calls it. And it's such like, yeah, I walked into a guitar store and I got the one I could afford. So you never know. I would assume they were gifts or, because if you're getting any guitar and you're writing punk music, you probably don't know that much about guitar to know that like, yeah, this is the best one. I'm going to get the Cadillac. I'm going to get the best, heaviest one. The one that kind of makes the worst, the least sense. Yeah. I mean, I'm just, I'm just jealous. Yeah, straight up. Which I'm sure was the attitude at the time as well. iconic pieces of gear like single pieces of gear

I'll tell you what got me was rabies boots that was cool because like they were worn yeah they weren't just like big fucking boot a big old boot

but a lot of times at like museums and stuff it's like this is one of his pairs of boots are like it's like no those were shot those were fucking

iconic pieces of gear in hardcore history though you gotta think like the whole misfits uh backline. There's a story

when I don't remember if it was Bobby Steele or if it was French. It was one of the early, it was one of the guitar players before Doyle because Doyle was still in high school. But they would go over

to Doyle and Jerry's house to like grab, they would store gear there. They would like grab gear and the earlier guitar player saw in the corner of the room pieces of the bat guitar that they made for Doyle

and he was like, what is that? They're like, oh, we're making a guitar for my little brother. Like, we're trying to figure it out. That's a good one. Those, that's the shards of Narsil are over in the corner. You know what I mean? Man, that's awesome. Love it.

Which guess would you like to interview for the first time again? Oh, dude. You know what's nice about, like, because, you know, we used to start every week with, like, who we got. Who we're talking to this week? We got to reach out to somebody. And now we've figured out ways to not be dependent. and on other people's scheduling so much.

Yeah. Looking back on the earlier episodes, we could have the first fucking 40 people back on. Easily. You know, without... Easily. Problem.

Yeah, there's so... I mean, there's so much more to talk about. And that's nice. That's really nice. But who would we like to redo it with? Andy, probably. Andy. Andy Williams would be great.

Yeah. I think Sean Martin, another Sean Martin episode would be lovely. And another Brody King. And another Brody King. Yeah, definitely another Brody. Yeah, those are all really really on. He's so fucking loud. His speaking voice is so bulging that us next to each other, I basically had to turn his mic off.

Because he was coming through mine so abrasively that it's like just my mic in that and he's still louder than me. So the mix sounds like ass. I hate it. Is there a fest you haven't attended that you hope to in the future? Riot Fest. What did you all think of the Iron Claw? My God. It was...

Zach Efron, one of their greatest snubs in history, I think. Oh, yeah. Just not even a nod. Nothing. He was unbelievable in it. And even though it was kind of relatively brief, Jeremy Allen White fucking killed it. Yeah, he was great.

I'm a big fan of his. The bear really... He rips, dude. Someone asked me recently, what's a movie that you saw one time? and don't need to see again. And that's like a prime example of like, there's a lot of those.

There's, yeah, can you think of it? You know what's funny is I didn't feel that way. Oh, I feel like the respect paid to the wrestling world, like the presentation. Oh,

yeah. In the first like hour or so, I thought it was so fun that I would like to see that again. Mm-hmm. Like, to me, the definition of that is something like 12 years of slave. Oh,

okay, yeah. Where you're like, okay, yeah, this is an objectively, like, perfectly made movie.

But, but like going, experiencing this story again, it feels impossible. Yeah. You know what's fun is at practice the other day. Chris Mills hit me with, dude, I watched Iron Claw the other day.

The movie was fucking awesome. I was like, oh yeah, he was like asking me questions about like wrestling. And I was like, you should check out the dark side of the ring about them because it'll give you a little more insight and tell you about like another brother

who wasn't even in the movie. Yeah. And, but there's a lovely like, the way that dark side ends is awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. So I think it's worth it.

And that's what they kind of tried to establish with the end of the movie. Yeah. Right. Hello, brother. There's been here since Sound and Fury 22. I was wondering if there will be any more releases from Hardlaw records.

Any hints on who? Yeah, we've got three in the chamber lined up. We've got some fire. I'll give you some hands. One of them. Zero lies about that. You know what? We've got four in the chamber.

Do we? Yeah. Two reissues. Okay. A death metal band and a straight-edge band. Take that as you will. What was the moment where you guys both thought, wow, we did something here,

and where can we send demos for hard little records? Ooh. Where? Demos just send them to the Instagram. Send them to, yeah, send them to our... That's better than... Or you can email them to us, but... hard to keep up with that, you know?

It really is. But yeah, send me the email. The moment where I, the outbreak fest live thing, dude, I could not shake. Oh, yeah. Emotional. Yeah, that kind of fucked you up. They fucked me up. Yeah.

Because it was really like, I, I spent every ounce of free time I had from April 2020 to then on the show to see that. Like, we had to do that during turnover. who was playing, I guess, a set of classics. And it was sold the fuck out. So that was special. That really fucked me up. There was no room. It was rainy and hot and people crammed in there.

That was really cool. I think, honestly, for me, the first moment where I was like, oh, I think we have something was Furnace Fest, which is really early. Interesting. But it was just very like, we both flew to this thing and we're doing this stuff and like, it's fun. Yeah. Like, there's something. We're in Alabama at a haunted hotel. hotel and a ghost just knocked on Bo's door.

Knocked on my door. All right, 100th episode in. Are you ready to admit that you knocked on my door? Yeah, it wasn't me. Son of a bitch. It wasn't me. It had a... Haunted.

Did Sean know your room number, though? If you're confused about this at all, go back to the Furnace Fest as haunted episode. It's one of our favorites of all time. Dude, there's a really good... That whole section where we're talking about this... It's amazing. A ghost knocked on my door, basically.

100%. It's real. So go back to the furnace fest. It's on an episode. It's incredible. Well, it's one part of the scene from the past that you wish would come back and one year glad is gone slash dead. I will say, not a lot of like full time grinding touring bands anymore. A lot of fests. So a lot of fly. A lot of fests, regional acts, which, you know, I'm part of the problem, but I think I've earned my stripes at this point. You know, but it's interesting to think about how many, how like bands used to fight tooth and nail to get just a tour, you know? And now I feel like bands are dying just to, like the regional tours where there's a, you have to decode it to find out which city of bands playing. Those didn't exist.

That was not a thing. No, not at all. So I do, I just, you know, I would like to see. cleaner flyers in the future. I apologize for causing the unclungliness of some of them. I miss the and this is going to sound funny to anybody who's

like kind of older than us because I'm sure for them their ritual was buying a record going and sitting down and putting it on listening to the record. Which I did when I was young, young, like pre-I-Pod, I was doing that. But I miss our heyday of hearing about something finding it on media fire, downloading it, putting it on an iPod,

and then being like on my way to school tomorrow or wherever I'm driving you tomorrow, I'm listening to that what I just downloaded. Yeah. Like I missed that. But I will say the aspect of that that is positive that that's gone is that things don't really leak anymore. Anything that leaks is intentional. Yeah. Like that's a media thing.

Leaks were rampant when we were young. I didn't blacklist? did get leaked, right? That was heavier than heaven. Unmixed got leaked. And the response to that was so, people felt so bad for them that it was the most,

like a historic pre-order. But I remember, so what I would do, this is my crazy method of confining leaked stuff. I would go on Last FM. I would check out Scrabbles, right? Yep.

I would look at a band who I knew had a new record coming out. If somebody had scrobled one of the new songs, I would message them. Like, how'd you find it? Can you send it to me? It worked like five times.

I had ax to fall real early. Really? Wow. So early. But it's a positive thing that that's gone. Leaking sucks. Yeah. So that's your answer for something that's gone?

Yeah. Keep the leaks away. Favorite sample in a hardcore song. I mean, what's the first one that pops to your mind? I bet we share it. It's your family. Yeah. It's your friendship.

Your community. Your community. It's supposed to find other things. Of course. Which is just some Marine, just some shitty movie, right? I mean. I looked into it one time. It's like it's called the Marine or something.

It's like a shit movie. The Shawshank one on satisfaction is good too. Favorite sample. I got up. I've used a lot of good ones, so I'm going to not pick any of those. Harms Way's got some bangers, dude. Which ones? All the ones on No Gods are amazing.

Oh, dude, the Bad Lieutenant one that starts it is really good. Yeah. And I love the chainsaw. That one is fucking awesome. It's so good. On the full sample, it starts with the, it goes, like it's the chainsaw falling. That was a lot of fun.

It's so good. Yeah, good job there. If you could show your 18-year-old self, one band you love now to develop your taste faster slash better, what would it be? That's a great question. I was so punk and so stuck in like the youth crew less heavy thing that my answers are going to be vast. 18 for me?

Yeah. Yeah. 18, I liked a lot of the same things. I like. Yeah, if I, well, no. Yeah, yeah. So warning, watching from a distance, I think if I had found that when it came out,

I would have found myself a lot sooner and figured some things out. Because that came out in 2006 and I probably heard it in 2011, you know? You said 2006 and I went, for those ones, I'll come out 2006. I'm going to say both for us. I'm going to say it for those are saying. For sure. Because I didn't like, when I was in high school, I graduated 2006.

So when I was in high school, especially the earlier, Bull Thrower's stuff, I would have been like, oh, this is like too sloppy. I don't get this. You know, I was like, Master Killer is perfect. So if I'm going to listen to Heavy, why do I want to listen to Slop? I want to listen to like. But it's not all slop before, because Honor Valor Pride is like just as sturdy as. Realm of Chaos, Warmaster.

I'm talking like the first few things. Even Warmaster's pretty, pretty tight. No. Yeah. No, do you? In Madel and Realm of Chaos are really the only ones that are pretty sloppy. There is, I'm literally thinking. of a fill on

Leanie on Unleashed and it's like Shika tica dook dook and it's like his feet and his upper body are two different hats. I love that though. That just makes me sure that it's a human. Yeah but at the time I think we know it was human. Sure.

Yeah, I guess. No, I mean a lot of Scott Burns shit is triggered to hell which you can't really tell. Now you know what's fucking triggered because they're all using the same damn trigger. Yeah. Yeah. Straight Edge feels like it's on an Up swing lately.

Gorgeous, beautiful. Have you been checking out any newer bands? If so, which one do you think folks should check out? Firestarter. You've got to listen to Fire Starter. If there's ever a straight-edge band that comes across my radar, I listen to it. It's the only thing that cuts right through the mix for me, you know? Yeah, I'll be kind of zoning out.

Somebody will be telling me about something, and then it'll be, their straight-ish and be like, hmm? Are they? Excuse me? Interesting. I love them. Oh, yeah, I know. I've heard it.

I love them. Yeah. If you could bring back a previous guest to run through the fast food tier list, who would it be? Dude, Brody would be a good one for this. Yeah, we should do that. It's a great one. Who eats? Dude, I would love to have the fucking grid boys just on.

Just for that. Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah, that's my answer to. I would love to do a full fast food cheerless with Maddie, too. That'd be good. Remember, he hated, he texted us after our episode about Baja. He did not like Baja Blast. Heartbreaking.

Personal problem. Skill issue. Most successful chef we know. Multiple restaurants. Skill issue. Yeah. Skill issue. He doesn't like Taco Bell.

That's his problem. What's in store for the future of hard lore? Which guests in these past 100 episodes had the greatest impact on you? Future of Hardlore, I think you and I both just want to. to do more live stuff. Yeah, live and in-person stuff is definitely the goal, long-term goal. It's the best. At some point, I think once the pit is up and running, we got an idea for Bo to come out

for like maybe a couple days a month, hit a bunch of episodes so that we're just always there, you know? Yeah, so it'll look good, it'll sound good, it'll all be banked. But also, I want to do fucking, especially after like, go into a couple comedy shows within the last few months. I want to do live stuff of our own. Yeah, I mean, the outbreak one I hated, just because I was so nervous.

Yeah. The Sound of Fury one, I was on fire. I was back. I love that one. Yeah, you were firing on all cylinders for sure. I was like, okay, I got to make up for that bullshit. And I felt I was really locked in on that one. So if we could do that over and over again,

it sounds great. Which guests in the past had the greatest impact on? you. I mean, Maddie is a Maddie Wadkins. Maddie Watkins was beautiful. Is an immediate. That felt really special.

Immediate, just like, oh, fuck. The Paris one felt like actual journalism for really like the first real time. Yeah. You know?

That's a good point. That felt like, I think I got the most texts. Yeah. About that one. That was the one where like my old head friends were like, good episode was sick. Yeah.

I was like, you know, what? You know what I do? That's crazy. Let's see. That was a good one. Favorite internet series pre-2015? Say that again? Internet. Favorite internet series pre-2015. What does that mean?

I think like YouTube, like Smosh and stuff like that. Oh, fuck. You remember a Lonely Girl 15? Yeah. She was wild, dude. That was, that was, she was ahead of her time. She was like doing a, of like, fake scripted things. It was presented as like a vlog on YouTube.

Yes. Where she was pretending to be like this girl who was like getting kidnapped or going through something and it turned out to be fake. Pretty dope. I thought for a second, I think I'm confusing that with whatever D from Always Sunny had a, she has a internet series. And I think it's lonely girl something else. Oh, that's amazing. I'm confusing one with the other. I like lame tech shit.

so I like like the line as tech tips was something that I would put on and literally just watch him build computers. Dude, I want to beat him in the head with a hammer.

Does that make sense? Yeah, I know. Something about him. Just a hammerable guy. Everything about him. Everything about him except for his vast knowledge. Yeah, no, I accept that he's a smart guy,

but he's something about him is hurtable. I'm a big MKBHD guy. I love him. I love MKBHD. He's, if I got a tech, if I get a new device, if I get a new item, yeah, I Google MKBHD item, you know? Oh, that's there. He's got me. Do you ever, you ever watch a review of a thing you've already bought? Yeah. Isn't it the best? And they say something and you're like, agreed. Yeah. Yes. It's the Leo meme. Pretty much any purchase over like $60. and I do that.

Like, it's already there. Yeah. You're actively using it and then watching a review, like, yep. No, that is true, actually. Hey, a 30-day return window, anything can happen in 30 days. That is true. So that return window, I keep it wide open. Huge, huge.

But, like, especially as, you know, getting into, like, guns and stuff, like, yeah, I watch a thousand reviews on anything I buy having to do with any major purchase. anything, yeah. Guitar stuff. Thoughts on the Dillinger reunion, personally, as I'm hyped as fuck. I really like the Mike Patton record. I like that one.

They're doing that one? I've heard it because of him. Like, I listen to do it because of him. It's not really my thing. Yeah, same. I'm happy for you. I'm happy for them. I'm happy for you all.

The Mike Patton one rips. When they're doing that one, I'm there. Hardlaw Fortnite duos, Trio Squads. Episode? So how would we do it? We would both have to capture our PlayStation's and then just have a camera on ourselves. That's not difficult. Easy.

It's not that different than what we do now. It might sound. No, you're right. I could actually just turn my TV and just play. Huh. Okay. I would just have to get the same capture card again to capture the gameplay because I use a capture card for this. Right.

Could be done. Power rank typo records. Haven't we done that? Yeah. but whatever. Okay. What does power rank mean? Like, in order.

Okay, just, okay. Our rankings are wildly different. Yeah. But do we not share number one? I thought we shared. October Russ? Yeah, that's my number one. October us, number one.

World coming down, number two. I'd be slowed even hard number two. Slowed even hard number three. We're coming down number three. Life is killing me number four. Yeah, over bloody kisses. 100%. Yeah.

Origin of the Feces. Dude. Next. I might put that over Life is killing me. I like the arrangements on the line. I do too, but Life is killing me. It's like on the B side

has some of the best songs they ever wrote. I got you. Then bloody kisses, then dead again. Yeah, dead again. I don't really. I love that. I like that again a lot.

Some of the like post-prison Catholic lyrics are, you know, I get it. I get finding God on the inside. But the guy that writes Jesus Hitler finding God on the inside.

a little wild. What did he go to prison for? I think assault or someone. Ficked. Classic. Bo, naked Raygun, screeching weasel, Pegboy fan?

I love Raygun. I like screeching weasel, but what's funny, when I was first getting into punk, they have a song called I hate Led Zeppelin, and I was like, I don't like screeching weasel. Because you love Lesgun.

You love Zet. I love Led Zep. So I was like, anti- screeching weasel. But yeah, naked Raygun is probably one of the most underrated bands

for modern hardcore. Like, I don't think many people know about Reagan as a band. Interesting. Very melodic punk. Can we pool our money together to get a neglect reunion? Man, that might be the real,

the actual last one now. And they're getting, it's so funny because they're getting more and more niche. Yeah. Like they're getting more and more like, but there's this. one like...

But there's neglect. Did Rest in Pieces ever do a reunion? Yeah. At Black and Blue Bowl, 2015 or something. It was why Eyes of the Lord was not called Rest in Pain, because they reunited.

Gotcha. Thanks. What is your favorite album slash song by a non-traditional musician? Example, Bradley Cooper Stars Born Soundtrack, or Adam Sandler's song. those are good Adam Sandel songs are good

Dude I am a simple goat And I live on the back Of a pickup jog So you like those huh? Those are funny That was probably one of the first Records I CDs I ever bought

And I remember thinking I remember here's proof I remember being like Wait there's people who go to see Because you can hear the audience And I was like Yeah people pay To listen to this

Like it never People like bangers. It never made sense to me. Oh my God. Dude, Paris Hilton, Stars are Blind.

Fucking masterpiece. But did Bradley Cooper write that? I was saying it. Yeah. Okay. Tell me something. So it can be a performance. It doesn't have to be.

Okay. Because they said bye. So I'm thinking like, oh, okay, who wrote? I mean, then Rick,

Rick Moranis' Little Shop soundtrack is the answer. I love Joaquin and Walk the Line. I think Walk the Line's like, What a fucking game. Val Kilmer in the doors. Dude, that's a good one, actually.

Fuck. That's an Oliver Stone movie. Dude, the story of how he got that is unbelievable. What is it? I don't know it. He was rejected. So he sent in a tape to Oliver Stone of, he said, I recorded the vocals to one of these.

Tell me which one is me and which one is John or Jim. He guessed Val's recording as Jim. So he got it wrong. Holy shit. He's like, that's me. I'm your fucking, I'm your guy. And he's like, all right, you got it. And he's great.

And he's unbelievable in it. Dude, Val just, Vow fucking rips, dude. He's fucking awesome. The ice man. He's awesome in everything. He's awesome. In McRuber, he's awesome.

He's awesome. He's a decent Batman. He's a great Batman. When was the last time you watched McGruber? Oh, God. I have no idea since it came out. It is. Unbelievable.

Was that a Saturday Night Live skit? Yes. That turned into a movie. It is one of the funniest movies of all time. Was Austin Powers a Saturday Night Live skit? No, but I think Lorne Michaels produced it. Because Dr. Evil, and this is a big reason why he had like a falling out for Dana Carvey, with Dana Carvey. Because his Dr. Evil impression is Dana Carvey's Lauren impression.

Like the Dr. Evil character... Right. Yeah, I saw that. I saw a clip of that somewhere or something. Yeah. Right. What's the best? I mean, Wayne's World has to be the best Saturday Live based movie, right? Yeah, I would say it's like Wayne's World superstar. Superstar rocks. I didn't, I didn't know that Superstar. I mean, I understand why. So was Superstar ever like a skit? It was a sketch, yeah. I got you. Same people. Like Will Ferrell was Sky. Gotcha. What's your guy's opinion on the band? Swear to God. as fuck. Hard. Any plans to do even more within hardcore, maybe an annual show slash fest? You know, we've toyed with that idea. I just don't think we want to be promoters, you know?

No. The stress of like, they need this and he needs this and then we're going to get that is just like, I don't know how anybody does it. I don't want that. And like the promoters in our areas do such a good job that I'd rather just be. like, here's our name, book a thing, you know? Totally. Yeah, I don't want to fucking take away.

I wouldn't want to do like, first of all, I don't even know how a hard lore fest would do in Chicago, but we have a fest that, you know, I want to take away from anything. Best appetizer. Now that, that's a question. It's mozzarella stick. It is some kind of fried cheese. It's mozzarella stick. Yeah.

Let me ask you a question. 100%, right? I think so. I'd love an onion ring. I could, I could give her, I could, really. I'm over them. I like a spinach artichoke dip kind of thing. Yeah, a dip, a dip in a stick.

Yeah. Perfect day. Yeah. You know what's fucked up? Spending a lot of time in Wisconsin recently, a lot of places up there, if you order cheese skirts, they don't have marinera sauce. And that's crazy.

They got fucking ranch and bullshit. Always. Blue cheese. Here's the, and like, so you just shut up for a second, because I'll tell you what the best... I'm going to mute and yell at you while you're explaining it. The best move with a mozzarella stick is marinera first, ranch second. Take the bite.

Unbelievable. Absolutely disgusting. What I said was marinerer first, ranch second. I just think it's very unnatural to have anything with like a breading and a cheese and then not have a tomato acidic element. That's like bizarre. Yeah, I like, I do both. That's the thing.

I can see that. So, oh, I get it. That's fine. Layer of tomato, another layer of cream. Hey, would you, if and when you ever have to go to Olive Garden, what's the soup you get? The chicken yoke, obviously. That's good. What am I a fucking loser?

Well, I like the, I like the Zupitiscana, the sausage potato. The ham one. Cale. No, it's sausage potato and kale. It has ham vibes, though. It's got, uh, bacon. in it. It's not ham. Ham vibes. It gives me, it gives ham.

Dude, the chicken yokey one is fucked. It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's awesome. Do you get us a boat of Alfredo sauce with the... I don't. Dude. Them, the fucking sticks... Oh, for the sticks. I get marinara sauce. What? I like a red sauce.

Yeah, fuck yeah, dude. I like a red sauce. You don't eat all that acid. Give it up. Give up the acid. That's a long question. Is it good? A few times you guys have mentioned the ethos that is the backbone and foundation of hardcore. I came up in punk and DIY so I know what that means to me, but could you expand on what it means to you too personally?

I think this concept might be lost on a lot of people nowadays and should be talked about more. Love the show. Thanks so much for all you do. You know what's funny? I don't for a second think it's lost on anyone playing in a band doing shows or in otherwise like directly involved. and I think it is like kind of and I'm not trying to sound like oh the internet but it is kind of like a more of an internet concept to be like

how is this a hardcore band? It's like well. No 100% because they're friends they go to every show and they get it. The ethos is just is being there. Yeah. Before you're in a band you are there because you want to be there.

You live it. That's the ethos. They've no pressure lived it. before they were singing, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Story so far, lived it before they were singing. Or a great example, something that I'll, that left an impression on me was like, knowing terror had just gotten back from a really long tour,

Harmes Way playing, I think Colbalt, honestly. Yeah. And Martine was at the show. I mean, that's every day of his life. So that's what I'm saying is like this guy goes, this, Martin has more of an excuse than anyone on earth to be like, I got to stay home. 100%. He's at the show.

And he's just there. He was at the fucking flush water show the other day. I don't know where he was the day before or the day after, but you know, you're going to see him. He's going to be at the bar. You're going to see him from across the way. You're going to see him at the end. He's going to go, ah. The ethos is you're, you show up because you want to be there.

You care. You live it. You got to live it. It's like the distinction of hard and heavy. You know it when you see it. You know it when you hear it. Something that isn't genuine screams not genuine. And you just, you know.

Yeah. Yeah. When it's real, it's real. Be real. And then that's that. If you're real, you're hardcore. Thoughts on this is hardcore lineup. Exceptional.

Maybe the best one they've ever done. Yeah. looks really fucking good. Truly, truly impressive. They out did themselves. Congrats. This is hardcore team. Outstanding work.

I am curious. We haven't really talked about it, but what the plan was going to be for leeway and now what it is for leeway since Eddie's passing. It is. You know, we haven't talked about it because something we have coming up is essentially like a big, beautiful tribute to them. So I wanted to kind of say that to them. But man, what?

What a loss. Eddie's contributions of hardcore changed the genre forever. Changed my life for sure, the trajectory of just what I like and what I play. It's devastating. But, you know, he was, I think he was in a lot of pain for a long time. Yeah. And if there's any silver lining to it, it's that he's truly in a better place. Yeah.

And yeah, I believe I could be miss speaking, but I believe Joe Post. It's something about, like, they booked them so that Eddie could do one more. One more, yeah. And what a, that's just wild to think about. Crushing, yeah, yeah. I mean, I hope that it still can happen in some capacity. Other people singing or something? Yeah, like, I would do whatever, whatever they need.

I'd be happy to help. But yeah, that's beautiful. What are the chances of you getting someone from typo on the show? Good, strong. Yeah, strong. I really want one guy. That's the guy that's going to be tough. I really want Josh.

We want Josh so bad. He's been gone. He's been hiding. If you could ask Danzig one question, what would it be? How? Yeah, no, 100%. I would do, I would be, there would be a lot of semicolons and commas in that one question. Hi, my name is Colin you.

And I just want to tell you that you are my favorite semicolon in 1978. A lot of the, you know, the chord progressions are so like music 101 but done in a way and in amounts that make very little sense unless the lyrics and melodies

were entirely written before the music was. So I'd just want to know what came first every time. Yeah. Because it sounds like he, in his mind, had lyrics and melodies completely done and then just put whatever riff fit over it. The song, some kind of love, some kind of hate, the way that it's played, the Ramones could

play that song, right? Yeah. No problem. Joey Ramon's singing over that, it's not going to sing it the same as dancing, and it's going to be a completely different song. The way that his melodies go against the core progression, which is as simple as it gets, it's three notes. But it's the resolve of, nah, na, nah.

Like that and knowing to then go higher, like the way that he wrote the melodies is what that's... 100%. That's the magic. A lot of the songs sound wrong when you play them without vocals. There's like a weird note in there and a lot of them, where you're like, is that right? And then you sing over it and you're like, oh, my God, it is.

Dude, AstraZombies. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Like it sounds. And then there's like a... one of the songs that we played has a fucked up note that would like fuck us up every time where we'd be like, can that possibly be right? And once you sing, it's like, okay, it definitely is. It's so weird how that works.

I would ask him about, boy, there's so, there's a lot of lore to Glenn. God, what I love to talk about. Probably the most. Probably the most more. Where do you even start? Okay, Danzig 3. Who left the snare mic on while you were singing? How did that happen?

How was the snare drum next to the microphone that you were saying? If you feel alive. If you know the answer. Rural. I would probably ask, because there's arrows of that band too, and the early, like this, the, the cough cool era. I would ask something about the lines of like, did you know what you were doing in any way?

Like, were you aware of the impact you were having? I feel like he did. Just, dude, they had the, like, they had the Feen School, had the vibe set. They looked sick off the bat. Like, they had more of a presentation than any band of that era. Henry Rollins has three Misfits tattoos

and got them in the 80s. You know what you're like that. That's how cool you are. It's crazy. It's my favorite, dude, the coolest. That's a lot like hearing about, which a lot of you will hear about soon, bands in 1986 covering the Cromax. Right. Right. It's crazy.

Would you rather be stuck in space or deep underwater? Space, dude. Space, 100%. Water is the worst. The worst. There's a thing called submechanophobia, which has. I think a lot of people, I think everyone has, but it's the idea of structures or any kind of mechanical thing, like an oil rig existing underwater. When I think about the bottom of oil rigs with like the barnacles and it's just like cement underwater, it makes me hot.

It makes my body. There's no reason for that. Any of that. No. We're past that. Stop the drilling. What is the best couple tracks band ever and why is it? Creed, honestly,

Creed's got more than a couple tracks. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say they're past a couple tracks. Couple tracks is two to three. They've got a full perfect records worth of songs. Mm-hmm. Worth of bangers. I think a couple tracks is legitimately two to three. And my answer...

Two to three. Maybe not the definitive answer, but the answer that comes immediately to mind is disturbed. It got a couple tracks, dude. Because that's also the implication of a couple tracks is like you're willing to be like, this is kind of a hot take. The best couple tracks band ever is Toto. Wow. Truly.

Because they've got. They got hold the line, Roxanna and Africa, Rosanna and like a cover of while my guitar gently weeps and a couple more. And I love them. Yeah, yeah. But you're not listening to one, two, three, and four. No, I'm not. And it's like, dude, four. Four is the one that like, all those songs are on.

Yeah. And it was basically, they were based pretty much told like, hey, if this isn't a hit, you're done. You're out. And it was a fucking hit. But yeah, they are the best couple tracks man of all time. I've heard a lot of faith no more praise. Are you fans of Mr. Bungle? How about no?

Yeah, no. Not really. I don't dislike them or anything. It's just not for me. It just kind of, with all due respect, feels like Mike Patton music for the sake of Mike patent music. It's penis music. You know what that is?

Yeah. Penis music. I can guess what it is. It's penis music. The whole genre of penis music. Like the Sissanta tour of the time, like, respectfully, respect to Primus, one of my favorite bands. Penis music. It's for penis guys, you know?

Explain. You know when you hear it. This is a, this is a Miller family classic. Got you. Got you. The penis music. distinction. Perfect circle. Penis music. Petus guys. It's for penis guys. Tool. Big time penis music. Dude, you know, pusufor is penis kings. Yeah. I mean, tool is called tool because

it's penis. The logo was just a penis. A penis. Yeah. So that makes. This is penis music. Pioneer. Mr. Bungle's definitely for penis guys. Gotcha. Yeah. Primus way up there in the penis spectrum. and I worship them, you know? Worship the penis, the Primus stands on. Best Fortnite drop spot. Dude. Right now it's Grimgate. Grimgate's cool.

I love the little jump boost. It's fucking sick. I really like... The jump boost is good. Mount Olympus is awesome. No one lands there. Brawlers next to it. That's the spot.

Okay. Because Aries Assault Rifles. Oh, I see. I see. I didn't know there was like... Dude, it's the Star... Oh, yeah, that's today. It's today. We gotta wrap this up. Yeah, we gotta get going.

Dude, you know what would be funny? There was a, I think it was a Kumpton episode where they're doing an episode in one of the dudes is just playing Red Dead Red Dead redemption and just like talking. Oh, it's Adam, I think. We should do an episode where we're just playing Fortnite but not addressing it. We're just playing. Yeah, that's good. Brawlers and Grimgay and the one,

there's a little town right above fencing fields where this woman that I call the, what? Isn't it a Paradise Piazza or something? No, no, pleasant piazza. That's a different thing. It's an unnamed location with, but one of the, my favorite MPC is there. I call her the chug queen.

Oh. Because every 20 seconds, she chugs you. Oh, nice. Damn. See, I don't know these, I don't know these secrets. Got to get her. And then the one at Lavish Lair, she scans. Oh, okay.

You ever get fucked up by somebody who scanned your ass? No. No. I don't know what that means. Well, there will be like a ping and it'll be like a blue thing across the floor and you'll hear a noise. That means they've scanned you and they know where you are. Can they like see you through walls and shit? No, yeah.

You're just a red glowing thing when they see you wherever for like 10 seconds or something. But then the chug girl, the chug queen, when she chugs you, Feels good. You know what I think is bullshit about that game? Is that you can pull out your glider one time. Like, you should be able to... Or if you find a jump pad on the ground. Yeah.

You should be able to, like, use the glider. Like, fall damage is a silly thing in that game. And it's brutal. Fall damage and the storm... I got the storm... Devastating. The other night. I was top five, storm got me.

It's so embarrassing. You ever been number two in the storm gets you? No, I don't think so. Them winning to the storm, I would kill my... I think I would be... That's dishonorable. Yeah, that's Howard Kerry. There's no honor in that.

Yeah. Winning, it's like, that's not a win. I wouldn't emo, personally. I wouldn't emo. I wouldn't emo. What's your favorite emo right now? So I got this, like, cartoon kitty cat is my avatar. Moussels?

I don't know. I just like... His name is Moussels. The black and white cat? Is he buff? So buff. Yeah, it's me awesome. So there's one where a song just starts playing any like flexes.

Oh, okay. That's it. I'm honestly waiting for Star Wars, Pirates. Pirates is going to be a while, but it's going to be good. The gritty is, you know, obviously a go-to. Hitting, killing somebody and then. Gangnam style, unbelievable. Right now I do the, the, the, this one, the fucking.

Oh, shit. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. The Alua. Mark one. That one's good. Thoughts on the Beastie Boys. Nothing but love and respect. Big fan.

I'm not like a, I mean, there's pictures of, I think it was Adam playing bass for the Cromax. So that's all you need to say. You know what I mean? I think they were our oldest brother's like favorite band, like first favorite group. Yeah. So I've heard BC Boys more than I've heard most things. And I love them. but here's the thing.

The song Girls and like Brass Monkey, I never need to hear it ever again in my entire life. That's just not music made for both. Yeah, you know, because it's like, if I'm gonna, LeBron trash type beat.

If I'm gonna listen to like hip hop, I like it either to be really melodic and like kind of pleasant or like hard. I don't want like silly. It's the same as- Hard hip-hop is the best thing ever. It's like, but it's like a Bloodhound gang or something like.

That's not music that I'm going to listen to. Dude, but how good is that? one song. Not good. It's more... Are you fucking kidding me? It's more musical comedy. It's like, you're talking about... No, that's not funny. The Mammals song? That song's amazing. It's not funny. Every joke is an innuendo.

I don't think so. I don't think it's funny. I don't find anything funny about it. I think it rocks. Dude, the song is good. Yeah, musically, it's pretty... But sex baby, sex, like, I don't need that. I mean, yeah. I don't care about that. Good video. Monkey suit? Good video, yeah. Good video.

After 100 episodes, are you still bromancing? No, we're divorced. Sickening. We're divorce. Still discovering new things about each other? Definitely. Yeah, often. Can we get a Christmas in July Master Killer Christmas movies with Alec Fabor? That's a good idea. Sounds fun. I would... I would like that.

I would like if real deal... Like, I'm gonna put an idea out there. I told you I kind of wanted to do like a history. thing and just have it on our Patreon is just like more Professor Bo. Professor Bo, we have an idea, you have a great idea for that that we'll do. But I've just thought like if I did like a... Let's do a Professor Boe segment right now.

Okay. Explain what that is. Explain what that is. Professor Bo, you know, Bo is a bit of a history buff, you know? The guy just knows shit. I'll come up with some, I'll have a crazy example and he'll know something about it. Why is Catholicism? Italian. Why is Catholicism Italian? Well, the church, the church was founded in

Roy. Why? What the fuck does that got to do with Italy? The church was founded in Rome. I know, I get that. That it was in, the church is in Rome. What the fuck? Why is the Pope important? Italy got nothing to do with Jerusalem. Okay. So there's, there's, I'll give you, I'm going to try and make this a minute long. The Apostle Peter, for whom Christ said he was going to build his church upon, founded the church in Rome. The Romans were in charge. Peter himself. Yeah, Peter.

St. Peter. He founded Catholicism. It's called St. Peter's Basilica. Poppycock. And also, Vatican City is actually not in Rome, technically. It's its own country, which is fucked up. The Pope is in charge of Catholicism just because of the crazy-ass hierarchy that they made with it, which is why when like Martin Luther,

who my German teacher believes was a distant relative of mine, by the way, due to my last name, Martin Luther, yeah, when he translated it, yeah, Luther,

when he translated the, the Bible from, it was from Latin into, wasn't German. It was a different language that a lot of people spoke. It was such a big deal because you're cutting out the middlemen of priests and the, the clergy. You don't need them anymore.

You just read the Bible. You used to have to go to a priest and be like, I have this going on. What does the Bible tell you? Right. And that's why it was such a big deal. But the reason it was there is because Peter went basically into the belly of the beast to preach and to convert. Yeah, to convert people.

The Catholics, yeah. So Jesus himself. He got crucified upside down. That's right. Peter. Oh, yeah. No, he's got the dopest cross. It's the best one.

It's a crazy one. He owned the upside down cross is first St. Peter. It's badass. Yeah. So Peter himself. Yeah. was told by Christ

what era of Christ pre-death pre-death yeah so Peter believed him yeah well so Peter was that heretical at the time they all were heretics all all 12

and Peter was the one who denied knowing Christ three times before the dawn fucking pussy so he was a pussy too but that's when he was like oh my God I did it I have to do everything this guy says

like he was right Okay. And that's why he went. And that's also why he insisted, no, don't kill me the same way as my Christ. And they were like, all right, we're going to do it upside out. We're going to do it upside down, pussy. Yeah, yeah.

So he moves to Italy. They all went all over. They all like. To spread the work. This is the story, by the way. I'm not 100% certain that any of this actually happened. Yeah. It is a story.

It's a great tale of beautiful tale of fiction. Yeah. It's an amazing fictional story. I heard the other day, I went to, I went to a Seder for the first time. Really? Yeah. It was fun.

Okay. Did you know that Moses partying the Red Sea was bullshit? Well, obviously. I mean, obviously it's bullshit. Yeah. But he, like, depended on the wind this time, and it just happened to happen at the perfect time. Like, that was just a thing that happened to the Red Sea. And he was like, behold.

Fuck, I hope this works. And it worked. But like that didn't happen. I know. Like. But they think it did. That is some scholar going, okay, how do we explain this? But I'm saying, some enough, a few billion people out there believe.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That C moved. That was magic. Yeah, that was magic. Jesus magic. There's all.

Dude, did you ever watch the Charlton Heston Moses movie? It's on every Easter. Yes. It's awesome. It is awesome. It's fucking awesome. My mom and I would watch it every year, so it's kind of tradition. Yeah.

And there's, it's full, it's Lord of the Rings level magic. Everything in it is just like, well, I turned my stick and it was snake. So where's that? Give me that. I'm in. It's a hilarious thing when talking and I'm not trying to like, if you are a person of faith, I'm not slandering you. I don't give a shit.

I'm on team Glenn Benton here. Yeah. But kill them all. When I think about people who have faith, like, And modern Christian faith, how it's like, well, obviously Old Testament stuff is all, that's all metaphor. And they're telling stories, blah, but New Testament. They're not. That's history.

That's real. It's just like, what? What are you talking about? You loosely translated this a hundred years ago. Yeah. And now it's bullshit. Yeah, now it's bullshit. Fuck off.

Yeah. It's crazy. Can you guys talk each a little bit about gear? I'd like to know what you use and how you use it when touring, opposed to, one-offs or local shows. Maybe show your guitar bass collection. The reason Professor Bowen all itself came up was, in addition to doing a history thing, I think it would be fun to have real deal as part of. That's why I was bringing it up. It's just like a little extra thing. It's just like, yeah, here's this thing also.

I would love that. Hey, this great movie just came out. We just, we're going to talk about it for two hours. Yeah, that's fun. Sick. Talk a little bit about gear. I'd like to know what you use and how you use it when touring. You just got a whole new rig. You should talk about it. I did. I'm rigged up, dude. Yeah, it's pretty impressive. You have a solid, they call that a bedroom rig. Dude, it's so simple, too. Yeah.

And I've got a nice, beautiful new Pelican that it just snugly fits in. What's better than that, dude? Pelican is the game changer. Listen, to everybody out there, if you're listening to this, you're in a band, you play guitar, you play bass. You got a fucking pedal board that you have to carry around without wheels. quit your dicking around. Quit fucking around. Yeah.

Get a pel. Just save your money for a month. Yep. Get a Pelican. It's a game over. Yeah. They're the best. They're guaranteed for life.

For life, dude. That's your whole life. If anything breaks, they will get you a new part. It's crazy. It's the best. So yeah, what do you have the new, what's that new amp you got?

He's got a few of them. This is the SNK bludgeon. Yeah. Which it's pretty much. a JMP clone. Right. It's an eight pound JMP. And it's a solid state. It is solid state. I think there's some kind of tube preamp in it

or something. That would make sense. But like, but it's, it's so simple. It's so easy. It, like, if I had zero pedals, I could still get a, like, great distorted tone out of it. Yeah. But with the ONI, I literally don't need anything else. It's perfect. I use the quad cortex into a C. more Duncan power amp. I use one reverb

pedal that has like a self-isolation knob for noise that I like and then one boss digital delay for the glitch thing that we do in a couple songs. And that's it into a Mesa 412. What are you using for a guitar right now? Right now

it's still that Ibane has made a Les Paul in 2017-2018. It was a made in Japan A-Z model and they don't make him at all anymore. Like none of the line. And I fucking love it. That was one that got stolen and we got it back.

And then like literally got it back. Got it back. Wow. The backup. Ah. And then the backup is a different AZS model like a strat kind of looking. Oh, okay. This is your Dunnable? Yeah. Yeah, this is Dunable R2V2.

This was a prototype. So I didn't really get to customize it, but I also didn't really have to. Well, that's perfect. Yeah, it rocks. And then You have that strat that you have and then that guitar both play so well. That strat is fucking unreal. I'll never get rid of that. Yeah, that's a perfect, honestly, a perfect feeling guitar.

That's my C-sharp guitar forever. I would probably personally, I would move the one volume pot that's too close to the bridge. My hand would hit it. That's like the only customization I would do. But I love that guitar. But yeah, you know, we played, Nick still plays a 65.05 and like, I played two. Tube heads and tour tube heads for years. And it's just you don't have to do it.

You don't have to anymore. Everything sounds really good. And when you're, as you said at the beginning of this episode, when you're flying out and doing stuff a lot, you're kind of hoping someone has something you can borrow or you're hoping to fest. You have to. It's like there's no way to coordinate exactly what you're going to be using. Yeah. And there's no way to know if it's going to fucking die when you get there. Yeah.

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You can't get out of your head. I'll tell you what. I doubt you've ever heard this one. Okay. The radio exclusive In-N-Out ad Yeah, I never heard it. Is one of the greatest jingles of all the time. It has like a fucking minor chord harmony in it.

Whoa. It goes in and out. In and out. That's what a hamburger's all about. Bangor, dude. Lately, I've had Ed BK, having your way.

Yeah, I've had that in my head. Pretty good. Recently. When you were growing up, did you guys have an empire, the carpet guy? 800. 880 to 800.

Empire today. Bangor. Yeah. That one comes. J.G. Wentworth, banger. J.G. Wentworth.

Uh. What's some other bangers? Luna. The general? Dude, the general. This is great. I call the general say it's fine. And then Shaq is like, call the general.

Call the general. It's the best. 773-202. Luna. That's a Chicago. I don't know that one. Yeah, 773 is a Chicago area code. So I'm realizing as I was singing it,

that that might be a regional one. Yeah, I definitely never heard that one. It was another empire. It was a carpet. Interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. Those are good.

In and out, though, is my number one jingle all the time. What albums within the last few years do you think will be regarded as classic hardcore albums in a day or two? And a decade or two. Apologies. The God's Hate Record, the self-title for sure. Thank you. The Chisel Retaliation. For sure.

I think Drain, the first Drain one. Goldch, L.P. Yeah. The which one? Pain of Truth LP for sure. Parenthood LP. Yeah. Cosby Jokes,

I'll title, obviously. Mind Force. Like all the ones that I think you would expect. Which one, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. I think all the records that you kind of like look at a fast and see who's headlining and it's,

there you go. It's kind of the answer. Yeah. I'm trying to think of like a something I couldn't, something I couldn't believe, you know? The missing link record, dude. Dude, that new missing like record. Early contender for a,

remembered from a decade from now. Just wait, man. Yeah. You guys are going to love it. It is truly going to scratch and itch that you motherfuckers are dying for. Yeah. Brody the other day described it as a record made for Brody. And it was like, yeah.

That is true. That is true. That is a fact. Favorite leases of the year so far, hardcore or not. The apparition record and the chisel record, 100%. Not hardcore related, but you guys are pretty well tatted. Some are favorite artists that you've gotten tattooed by. Mark Nava, Marina Inouye, Heather Bailey.

Heather fucking Bailey. Those are probably, Kane Gordon. My three last tattoos. I probably went like six years without getting tattooed once, and then three in a row were Heather Bailey. Yeah, she's incredible. This is the best person, too. Yeah, she rocks.

Everybody I also just said is the best person as well. Marina did my first tattoo ever, and I would, I trust her with my life, recently got married to Graham from high-vis. Congrats to them. Heather is the betrothed to Anthony Azaldo, of course. She's the only tatter we've talked to on the show. You can hear some words from her in Anthony's episode. Kane Gordon playing a bunch of Jacksonville hardcore bands. He's awesome.

Mark Nava, one of my best buddies. Arizona, H.C. Also, big time like misfits collector. Oh, love that. Like known in the misfits collector world. Really? See, that's a world that I can't get into. You might as well buy a Rolex.

Yeah, I decided really early on. I'm never going to go for OG misfit stuff. I'll go for boots. No problem. Not OG. Even the boots are $1,000. Right. Yeah, totally.

Crazy, dude. There you go. Put together the best tour with your respect. of bands, who would be the opener, 2 of 4, direct support, your band headline. Twitching would headline. I think,

I think honestly, you would break up God's hate and twitching tongues with harm's way just to do, to break up God's hate and twitching tongues. Thank you.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, kind of makes the most sense. And then who's open? A dead body could open. Oh, this is not what they want to hear. I think we have to do this for both of us. Oh, like I said, yeah,

I thought they meant, with our bands. No, no, I think like each of us. Oh, okay. All right, so let's say it's switching, which I never call it that. Tungs. The tongues are headlining.

Direct support would be DISA, 2 of 4 would be morbid angel. Opener would be... Obituary. Opener would be New World Man. That's pretty good. New World Man, Morbent Angel. The aside, touching tongues.

Great tour. That's a good tour. Do we have to headline? I think you have to headline. Fuck it. I would, even though it wouldn't work, I'm going to book it this way to make it work. You think that would work? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This would be the most legendary walkout in history. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So it would go armsway headlining, Godflesh direct, which I think we could get some people to stay. I think some people would stay after Godflesh. Yeah. And then I want a three-band package. So then I just want like a dope opener with locals. I don't know.

I don't know. Who could open a cool thing like that? Something weird. Choir boy. Something bizarre. There you go. There you go. What is the best movie twist of all time?

Oh, man. Great question. Probably the prestige we've talked about. Prestige is unbelievable. Let's choose one other than that. because we talked about that kind of that length. Old boys, good one. Makes you feel bad.

Yeah. I think obviously it's also a cliche, but six cents is pretty fucking crazy. I mean, watching it again is even gnarlier. Right. Because it's done really well. Because it's the whole time. They've been giving it to you the whole time. It's right in front of you the whole time.

Yeah. But let's see. What's a good? Seven, obviously. Great. Um, twist. What's the twist in seven? That Kevin Spacey's in the movie.

Yeah. That the whole time it was Kevin Spacey, which is way scarier now. I mean, the one in split really fucking got me. That one, because that also, you're talking about like the post credit. Yeah, the fact that you just unknowingly watched a sequel to Unbreakable. That twist was so good that we started real deal. Yeah, right. That's what happened.

That was awesome. Insane. Um, dude. Shawshank. Oh, just the poster? You had no idea the whole time that he was digging a tunnel. What's funny is the short story is her name is in the title. Oh, really?

Rita Hayworth, is that who that is? Yeah, yeah. How about you, Fussy Britches? Yeah. She's in the, it's like something about Rita Hayworth is the, it's like the Shawshank, here, let me see, Shawshank. Was it a Stephen King short story? Yeah, Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption is.

what it's called. Interesting. Yeah, a good thing that comes. Pretty cool. Yeah, but like, oh,

okay, that's the, okay, that's the twist. There she is. Yeah. Yeah. How much of your lives

changed in these hundred episodes? What are some highlights along the way? Oh, man. Kind of entirely. Yeah, entirely.

I mean, this is just who we are now. You and I have both been doing this full time for over a year now. Yeah. And it's, most of the time if somebody sees me

and says something, it's about the show and not music. The other day, the other day after practice, we were eating and a guy at a light when we were walking on the restaurant was like, hey, love your band. And we're like, oh, thanks, man. And then he said, great podcast. So I got kind of the, that's what I want. I want that in that order, though. Yeah.

You know, I'll take what I can get, obviously. True, true. It's not like our lives have changed in any substantial way, you know? It's just now we... We're not millionaires or anything. No. Now we get 20% off manxcaped and free shipping. Yeah.

Which is great. I am in a better place mentally, for sure. Nice. Since before the show? Dude, I mean, the jobs I was working before we were able to do this was... Yeah. Grinding me to a powder for sure. Yeah, same.

So that's good. Yeah, I mean, it's the best thing ever that has ever happened to either of us for sure. For sure. And that doesn't have a... happen without y'all all you all you thank you oh man hard lore ex australia when assuming colin survives the flight let us know yeah you you book it we'd love to you book it straight up book it book it and i'm there tomorrow yeah you know no problem if i got a book it not not soon mount rushmore metallic eriffs oh let's see fade to black intro has got to be it's crazy dude yeah

as a guy who's not that good at guitar, that boggles my mind. I could teach it to you, no problem. I know, but like a child writing down, essentially sitting down to write that is crazy to me. It's true. They got a lot of mileage out of a power cord on B, so two on the A string,

and then nothing on that third string. So you go boon-dun-da-boo-da-d-that's one, that's sanitarium, that's fade-to-black. It's all. But all that is is A minor Like play a string And then a C play a string Like it's not

I know but it's easy to say all that is After learning it from a YouTube video You know? I didn't. I learned it from the recording when I was a kid Well that's impressive No but that's my point is it's not I guarantee you if I show it to you You would go oh it's not that crazy

But writing that I'm saying from the perspective of somebody that actively writes music as a 32-year-old man. Yeah. I hear what this child wrote, and I go, that's fucking crazy. Okay, fair enough. Mount Rushmore. I'm going to say, I mean, the breakdown to creeping death is probably the best.

And that's something that Kirk claims he wrote when he was 16. Is that now? No, no, no. Very easy, very simple. It's so stock. And it's so hard. But the way it hits and with the dye. and everything is just like, holy fucking shit.

I just got chills, actually. Black and Pitt, pretty insane. Supposedly a Newstead song. Song? Song. What a God, dude. He brought that to them. They obviously rearranged it and made it fit a little better.

But supposedly, I don't know if there's any actual truth to that, because I don't think he's, you know, on the writing credits or whatever. But supposedly. But yeah, the. Man, man, oh man. And then they give you the fucked up. No, the half-time. Oh, my God.

And that's like a studio accident for sure. They're like, yeah, just keep doing that, Lars. Yeah. Lars, remember where you fucked up right there? Do that again. And then never play it the same live ever because it never has been. You watch 89 bitch and purge. because it was an accident.

Yeah, you watch Seattle 89. The first two times they go through it, it's completely fucked up. They're all kind of just doing whatever. Then there's a fill, and then it's... It's fucked up. So that creeping death master...

Oh, the... Da-na-na-na-na-na-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Holy shit. Yeah, that's crazy. That was the riff that made me go, oh, I like this. I heard it on the radio. That rift.

That rift is inhuman. It's fucking awesome. And then probably battery. All while singing. All while singing. Like, what are you trying to fucking prove? The end of that song where it's da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

My dad heard it one time and he went, oh, it's kind of a polka. And he, like, ruined it for me as a kid. I was like, fuck, because it is kind of a... He got it. That's awesome. But yeah, those would be my four. I got you.

Mount Rushmore of Butt Rock. What do you consider? Creed number one all time. Nickelback is obviously. They got to be up there. I'm not like a champion of Nickelback or anything. But a couple tracks. This is the Mount Rushmore of Butt Rock.

You got a couple tracks. I'm not putting shit like puddle of mud on there. What about, um... I think collective soul counts as butt rock. And that's an incredible man. You fuck with Godsmatch? at all? No. I like the one song. Voodoo.

They have that song standalone. I, Yeah, the scorpion. Yeah, song rocks. Pretty good. Singer's got three X's on his back. And in an MTV Cribs episode, he says like, yeah, I keep champagne in here. I don't drink myself, but I keep stuff for anybody who comes over.

In the Best Breakdowns playlist, Dead Ringer by Knocked Loose is included, but not mentioned. That was a bow pick that he just forgot to say when we were recording. Yep, correct. A Jimmy Edgeman episode when? Maybe it tied down. That'd be fun. Jimmy and Curtis would be fun together.

I love them. Yeah. Legends. If you were putting together a show of Fest named after a song by one band, what band would you choose? A la tied down. Hard Lord. Vital already did that the best with life and death. You're right.

Mine would be breeding grounds. Next question. Next question. This is a good question. When do backing tracks become miming? Are we going to see a hardcore or metal adjacent band go full Ashley Simpson when their laptop glitches? Guys, this happens every day. Happens all the time.

Every day. Not with what I think we would consider hardcore bands, but it happens to aggressive bands all the time. Every single day in the world, somewhere, some. Metal core, death core, adjacent bands, laptop glitches, and they got to stop playing. I watched a band get off. They literally said on stage, laptop died guys, sorry. They ended the set. Watched it happen.

And what happens in that scenario? Do you get paid for the show? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. It's just, it's equipment malfunction just like anything else. What's crazy to me is that. Yeah, but that's your fault.

It's 100% your fault. Yeah. But, you know, one could, one could. argue so is a head blowing up or something, which has happened to me. We find a way around it and play to finish the set for sure. So I'm saying. There's got to be a backup. Like, hey, can we, well, how about we just play, guys?

So it's crazy for a band like that to not have a redundancy, to not have another MacBook that's just ready to rock. When, like, Harvest Way, we play to a click, and there are tracks going that are like some of the textures and noises. Noises and shit that we do. You are cool that they're there, but you're not missing them if they're gone. If the iPad died, we could play the whole set, no problem. Right.

So it's a two-factor thing. If that is gone, can you still play? All right, then I don't, personally, I don't give a shit because that's just like anything else. And then the other is like, there was a band on Warped Tour who was very popular, who was at the same tier as us, like same stage level. And they had somebody who was pantomiming. who was pretending to play because they were singing and they were not playing. At all? At all.

At all. So I would say that that's- Drummer or two? No, no, no, no, no. Just the one band member. Okay. If the drummer's playing to a click, no one else has to do a fucking thing, right? Because anything can be a backing track.

So this one particular instrument was not being played because he was singing and like singing, singing. Just don't have it. Yeah, just don't have it, I guess. to me, I love like, if you're, if you, like you, if tongues, if the tongues were to play to thank you. A backing track where there was like harmonies and stuff played over it. Oh, that's, that's totally fine. But if, but if you're doing the kind of like hip hop thing where you press play on your

Spotify playlist and you're just singing over. Chimming in sometimes. Chiming in sometimes. Then that's where it's like, well, that's. That sucks. But that's music outside of. hardcore. Yeah, which, you know, we're talking about hardcore.

We're talking about real music and that's the, that's the thing is that's the difference is this is the last real music in the world. Because outside of hardcore music, even in the world right outside of hardcore music, you're getting a 50% synthetic band when you're going to see live music. Yeah. It's, hardcore is all we got left. Roger Daltry of the Who recently played someone's wedding. And he sounds like an 80-something year old man because he's an 80-year-old man because he's an

something-year-old man, you know. But then when Won't Could Fool Again comes on and there's the scream from CSI, you know, yeah, that's perfect. And you'll look at the comments and the comments are, can't believe he could still hit it. That's amazing. What a singer. Like hundreds of comments of people getting worked. People really don't know the extent of what backing tracks have done to live music.

Yeah. And I really truly could not have any. less interest in seeing a perfect thing. No. You know what's a cool thing is the year that Metallica won their first Grammy, they played it. And it sounds like shit because they insist that on playing it. It's fucking awesome. And that's fucking awesome.

I want that. Yeah. I don't like that the word production has become synonymous with like little noises and sound effects. Yeah. Rather than like making a guitar and drumming. sound good. I got it. And sound real.

Real is the... Just make him... I love real music. Yeah. I love it. It's the last kind. As an artist, album covers, this is our good buddy, James Bucema.

As an artist, album covers, played a huge part in my taste in heavy music as well as finding my own artistic style over the years. Curious if you could share your favorite hardcore albums are ones that immediately made you listen to records. You know what's funny? And this is going to be sacrilege to you.

I don't, like, Master Killer, didn't wasn't one that like grabbed me you know that was pure music yeah the album art like yeah i have no yeah like that was it looks like a toy or whatever you know yeah didn't grab me love it now love it now it's iconic for me it was always like like there's a european variant to break down the walls where people are diving it's like a dude embraces with boots on diving and like ex-up fists and stuff those were the ones that would grab me yeah If I could see an X-up fist on your record cover, oh, yeah, done.

I was in. Funny enough, I think a common answer for me for this, and Taylor will probably be satisfaction. Satisfactions, satisfaction is interesting on so many levels. Because it's light blue. It's light blue. But the name's in fire.

So you know something about it is extreme. Interesting. And then the, and then also. Curseve for satisfaction. I love the fucking curse. And then the picture is, is it Boulder who's jumping?

Boulder and Bedia are in there. Yeah, it's awesome. Funny enough, on a field trip, when it came out, I was not familiar with the band Ice Pick yet. Okay. I found the record literally on a field trip. Didn't know it was Josta and Isaac. Oh, my God.

Bought it because I liked the album art, and I could not believe it. Love that. It happens every day. A lot of death metal. That makes sense. Like Benedictian, I definitely, checked out because I thought the album art was sick.

And then I realized like, oh, this is, these are bull thrower's best friends. I got south of heaven because of the artwork. Really? For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Just because I thought it looked cool.

I knew who Slayer was. I wasn't well versed, but I was like, I know rain and blood. This one looks cool, you know. And Lord. Lord, is it? Spill the blood. You fucking kidding.

Ghosts of war, dude. Dan, da-da-da-da-da-da-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la. Yeah, that's incredible. Question for Bo, do you know of anybody who would want to come watch Koh-Heed with me in Chicago? Yeah, Thai. Tywin. That's it. If you guys weren't musicians and elite podcasters, what would you just be doing?

Fucking IT, at-home IT. I think I would have been dead a long time ago. Realistically, like, knowing my mind. If you weren't doing music? Without music at all, wouldn't have made it past like 16, 17, 100%. If I hadn't found the things I found, I would not be here. What do you mean when you say slash shit on melodic hardcore?

Always wondered. From a guitar playing perspective, you take an octave chord, listen to the first song on Champion Promises Captain. You'll know exactly what I'm talking. Nen, nina, n n, which like, pretty good record. Pretty, pretty good record at the time, for sure. One could argue the first Have Heart LP is bordering melodical.

Totally. But then they do other things to make you know, like, no, we want you to mosh. Yeah, they do like a stone. They do like a stone. And you're like, oh, this is fucking awesome. They have the payoffs that at least, because like, one of my favorite bands of all, or like, chain of strength, turning point, two of my favorite bands. You could say have melodic elements.

100%, but they're not they're not like backing off. It's not soft. There's always the hard part. It is still aggressive without being aggressive, if that makes sense. Without being overtly aggressive. Without a chug breakdown. And there's a difference between melodic punk.

Oh, like Naked Raygon or whatever. Like dag nasty, which is one of my absolute favorites. That's a melodic punk band. Yeah. And those are different intentions. Like, Descendants has a, those are. Yeah. That's, that's melodic punk, but it's the intention of melodic hardcore is like,

is like, like, symbol like stabs, like, think about this. Amazing core. That, that title really sums it up. Amazing core. Where, like, somebody's just playing some bullshit court and saying some bullshit over and somebody is like, that was amazing. And you're like, what are you talking about? And nothing happened.

Anthemic. Yeah, it's a lot of Carcores music where nothing happens. Yes. It's like all build. It's all build, no payoff. All build to nothing. Yeah, to nothing. Favorite wrestling finisher, burning hammer.

Razors Edge. Love it. Because also there's the, it's over before he hits the Razors Edge. Yeah. Favorite X-Files bad guy? The episode with Giovon. Rabeasie and Jack Black. The Jersey Devil.

Great one. Fortnite Dark Souls are Mario Kart. Mario Kart. I would go right now, Fortnite. But all time, Mario Kart is my greatest. I'm a borderline professional player. Yeah, you're Formula One.

Bo, Piquads, or Lumonautis. It depends on the occasion. Like, if I wanted pizza tonight, I'm going to get lose. I'm not going to Piquads. But if it's an event. It's an event. If people are in town or it's somebody's birthday or whatever, then fine.

The nice thing about Piquots is they're open until 4 a.m. That is nice. That's crazy. But they're Pepsi and... See, Greg, asked, what needs to happen for you to kiss? I'd kiss you. I'm not scared.

I'm not afraid. You're a married man? I'm not, I'm not afraid. Yeah, it really wouldn't take much. It wouldn't take much. I don't really give a shit. You ever see the man? Mr. Show sketch, I'll marry your stupid ass?

Yeah. Dude. So good. I forget about Mr. Show and I forget about, um, what was the Michael Ian Black? It was three of them. They were always in suits. Oh, dude. Uh, fuck.

Uh, the show, the, the show with the I want to dip my balls in it sketch. Yeah. There was three Michaels, right? Wasn't it three of them? What is it called? Jeremy Bowman. It's Jeremy Bowling's favorite show of all time. Oh.

That, that shit was fucking. Incredible. It was on MTV, right? Yeah. And, and then we, would watch it on the internet because like it rarely aired and we would watch that was a bit that was big on b nine board yeah but again yeah so what needs to happen for us to kiss not much i mean CPR would be the easiest way yeah for sure if this man's dying i'm saving him easy i'm bringing him back i'd suck

the soul out of you suck the venom right out of you you know i shank some easy what's the funniest mosh call you've ever heard i don't like funny mosh calls what you just said is why I don't like funny music. I get that. I like, so I get it, but those are two different things. They're completely different animals,

but the attitude is the same. I don't like it. Yeah, I don't really, like I don't want to chuckle while I'm trying to. 100% murder, you know. Yeah,

I want to be scared to death. When are we getting a possible downbeat episode collab? I think we'd have to be in Scotland or whenever he's here and we're all together. Or inevitable. It is inevitable for sure. And I think it would be, fun. I want to see his setup. I want to like see what he's got. Oh my God. It's so nice. It's so

We are definitely, we are mutual champions. Yeah. Of each other's respective work. Crafts for sure. Big, big, big, big fans of what he does. Yeah, Craig Rocks. Have you ever had albums that you initially disliked or felt lukewarm about when they were first released, especially when you guys were younger, now you look back in love. When I first heard hate breed, it was like bro Fox Racing metal. It was Ozfest. And that wasn't for me when I was a punk kid. Right. When I first heard Habit, I saw God.

Yeah, I know. And I kicked his ass. Shot him in the head. So then inversely, did you, you didn't like the misfits the first time you heard it? That's probably true. Danzig was the thing that like, when that clicked for me. Yeah. Because I would say I like growing up the middle school punks would be like you got to listen to this. They got to listen to Danzig and the misfits. And you'd be like, and you listen to him back to back and you go, why do you like this? Yeah.

Yeah. What do you like about this? And I would think, I think after getting into typo at like 1314, typo makes Danzig make more sense. Because it's kind of like, oh, this is what you were doing. Yeah. It's kind of typo and Elvis. Yeah.

And you go, oh. But like Danzig was first, you know? Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah, it makes some stuff makes sense. Yeah, that Danzig was a big one. We're, well, like, finally understanding that made a lot of things lock into place for me. Did Brody show you something? Oh, yeah.

He put you onto it? Big time. Big time. Which is sometimes that's what you need to. Last night you said. You need a buddy to be like, no, no, no, you're wrong. You sent me a morbid angel playlist and I listened to hate work. eight times in a row.

I knew you'd love hate work. That was the song. That was the one where I went. I fucking knew it. Wait a minute. I knew you'd love hate work. And what's funny is there's a song, I won't know it off the top of my head, but it's, it's very different. It's almost thrashy.

Angel disease. Dude, dude, yeah. Down to go to go go down the wow, wow, wow. So the fast part, the kind of like skank part, I was like, see, this is what I don't like. This is why I'm like, how is. is this heavy? I don't get it. Then hate work hit. And I went, okay. And then you go back and you hear Angel the disease again. And it's like, that's borderline hardcore music. It is borderline hardcore music. Yes. When they do the fucking down to get it down. That's Mad Ball. That's a Matt

Henderson record. Yeah. Yeah. That's the second. That's, no spoilers. One of the heaviest bands of all time. At least top four. If you could choose, this is great. And I'm determined to make this happen. Okay. If you could choose any film director to direct a music video for your bands, who would you choose? Any...

I want. And this is on the record. I need, nay, I need Paul Thomas Anderson to do a God's safe video. Whoa. Paul, you're a valley man? Yeah. We're the only band left in the valley. Human Garbage, too.

Mostly the only band left in the valley. Paul, we need you. Okay. You did the Heim videos. We've seen them. They're amazing. We don't have a budget. We'll get, we'll find something. But Paul, please do it for the Valley. I played in a band with your nephew. Please. Do this with me. Paul, please. Pretty good. The Valley needs you. Who would you choose? I would choose to never do a music video ever again. Great answer. I'm so over. because Boe don't even like him We're Paul, I love him. Paul, I need you. I don't, the bar has been set so high by a few bands that it's like, Oh my God.

Holy shit, man. Yeah, there's no point. Unless you're, I don't know. Code Orange killed it. Knocked loose. Knocked loose. Yeah, you got to make, I mean, here's the thing. It's a movie.

That's the thing is that you're like, we've forgotten that music, music videos, it's art. Yeah. Make art. Don't make nonsense. Don't make racket. Any music videos stand out to you from when you were a kid? Dude, the sycamina all one where they're just showing you mosh moves? Different mosh moves.

Yeah. Unbelievable. The Pogo. Any of the videos Paris directed, those, I grew up, those raised me. Yeah. Which is insane. The punishment video is. Specifically, the videos he shouted out.

Yeah. Those are my favorite videos of all time. Yeah. Any, like, pop, like, I'm thinking like, like, like a prayer. Yeah, of course. Dude, the ray of light. Dude. Where she's just like,

that's, that video's crazy. She's moving so fast. She's faster than the ray of light. She's faster. And then she's va... Yeah. Love that one.

Every Michael Jackson video, obviously. Remember the time where he's such a prick to Eddie Murphy. Such a prick. Eddie. Dude, I mean, the bad video directed by Scorsese. Was it directed by Scorsese?

I did not know that. You know what's fucking smooth criminal is one of the most insane music videos of all time. Oh yeah. Joe Pesci. I know. Michael turns into a mech. Michael is a god. Michael was an artist and he understood that like,

dude, wasn't he the reason behind MTV playing videos or something? He was one of the reasons, him and Prince were the reasons that they started playing. black artists. Oh, okay. There was such a demand. Unbelievable, man. Yeah. And I really wish that Prince was in.

Because the plan was for bad, the song, was Michael and Prince finally clabbing. Really? But the first line was your bud is mine. And Prince said, no, it's not. Yeah, I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it on this song. Prince is so sick, dude. How do you think the current boom of hardcore compares to previous golden eras?

It's never been in a better place. It's a fact. Yeah, the last time I would consider hardcore having been in a golden era was like the mid-2000 locking out era. Early terror. Yeah. Lock it out. That was the first one where I remember thinking like, oh, every show has like 200 people. And now it's like, oh, every show has like 400 people.

Yeah, 4 to 800 people at it. So it's never been in a better place. It has never been in a better place. There's never been a better time to get into it. It's never been in a better time to start a band. People are dying to start bands. There's 15,000 labels now, so you're going to get signed. Just rock a little bit and they'll be fine.

I'm even thinking about like, because like the doldrums are of hardcore. I think, I think L.A. was kind of always okay, comparatively to the rest of the country. Sure. Like Southern California was kind of like, oh, at least we're playing there a couple shows. We got that. We'll be fine. Whereas like now, Springfield. Newville, Missouri is drawing 200 people.

Yeah. And the beautiful thing. I'm thinking about the Sound of Fury's at Earl Warren both times. There were so many fucking people there. Those were those seem big. I really am curious what the cap is now looking back. Yeah, because my brain might be playing a trick on me. I mean, that room felt like the biggest room in the world.

In the world. A favorite Dharma initiative station. Oh, I don't remember any of the stations, but I'll tell you what? Desmond, for sure. Desmond Hume. Come on, brother. See you in another life, brother. Penny.

Dude, when they finally get on the phone... Don't talk about Penny right now. Don't do this to me. Desmond? Don't. Don't look at me. All right, I will do it. Show rocks, which the ending was a little better.

I don't mind the ending. Obviously, it could have been stuck a little more, but I think it should have just ended with what was in that DVD extras epilogue. I never even seen it. Dude, it was Walt. Walt in a fucking psych ward. Cover your ears if you haven't finished lost. Walt and a psych ward,

Hurley and Ben show up and give him the island. He was the chosen one all along. That's way better. They pull him out of the same psych ward that Hurley was in. Yeah. And they go, hey, man, we got to tell you something. You're the keeper of the light now.

We're moving on. It's you. Is he grown or is he, is he, is he? Yeah, he's an adult. I mean, it was the same actor. Same actor, okay, good. But he was like 18 by then. Yeah.

So he looks, he's an adult. It's incredible. Do you think ghosts or aliens fuck with hardcore? Come on. Give me a break, Skeeter. No. There's some alien somewhere who's just like watching this. Dun, dun dun can it.

Dun dun dun can't. Yeah. For sure. That's boiled. What do you consider bad geometer? kit. Not putting the weights away. I mean, that's fucking, I'll kill you. I recently had a run-in. I had two run-ins recently.

One really good and one really bad. One, a person was doing hip thrusts on the Smith machine. I needed to use the Smith machine because I'm not doing like free squats. I'm always using the Smith machine just to make sure I don't get hurt. There's only one Smith machine in my gym. And they were done, but they were using it as like a home base for a, all their shit. Oh.

And I gave them, I gave them like an hour. Like I was doing all my other stuff and they just left it there. So I finally had to go up and be like, hey, are you done? And they were like, oh yeah, I finished. Sorry. Like it was absent minded. So it wasn't like intentional.

The inverse, there's a fucking guy, Colin. I go late. I go like 9, 10 p.m. There's a guy who's always there around the same time on the stairs for an hour. Is there one stair? There's two stairs. I don't, I'm just saying, this guy is on the stairs, busting his hump.

I mean, he's a fucking animal then. I told him, because I'm moving, I'm going to be going to a different gym. I told him last night, I literally saw him. I said, hey, man, I just want you to know that you are sometimes, I'll think about the fact that I know you're here and it makes me come to the gym. Like, I literally, I told him thank you.

And he's like, oh, hey, thanks, man. Thanks for noticing. I'll drive by the gym and that motherfucker at 10.30 at night. Stair mask. It looks like he got out of a pool, dude. He's busted. That's the hardest thing you can do. The hardest fucking thing.

So that guy is... One of the coolest things is silently tracking somebody's progress in the gym. Yeah. You know, like, there's a couple people who, like, I have been going there the same amount of time as me. Yeah. And I'll, like, see them be noticeably stronger. I'm not going to talk to them because I'm not a fucking...

Yeah. If it was that case where it's like, I'm never going to be at this gym again, yeah. I got to pay respect to the stairmaster. I maybe would, but I'm not going to, like, bother somebody in their sanctuary, you know. Bad Jimick, I cannot handle people

not wiping down benches and stuff. Yeah, if you're, even if you're in, I work out in a hoodie and sweatpants, right? So I never have skin on anything other than my hands. Don't give a shit. I wipe that fucker top to bottom. I'm at the point now where I'll follow them to the next thing and say, can you go back

and wipe that down? I'm going to use it. Nice. I don't fuck around. And hopefully that scares them into always doing it. Hopefully that embarrass it. It's just rude. It's the same thing as not putting your shopping cart away.

You know what else I don't like, dude? Dropping the weights. Don't be so dramatic. Yeah, I don't, I actively don't do it. Yeah. I think with deadlifting, putting them down is more dangerous than dropping them. That's which that's, we have a deadlift platform, so it's cushioned, that's fine. Yeah.

I'm talking like guys with you in dumbbells and we'll just like, blah. Oh, you're a loser if you do that. You are a fucking loser. And like, I'm doing something else. I think there's a, I'm like, huh. Yeah. If you're, if you're doing like fucking inclined bench and you're just like, you're a loser.

Yeah. You suck and nobody likes you in your personal life. And that's why you're there. So that's sad, really. I'm sorry. I said to you're a loser. Biopics you would like to see made about some of your favorite bands or artists. Listen, I think a true cold-as-life biopic would be, would win every Academy Award.

Let me tell you about a young man from Lodi, New York. Jersey. Oh my God. Glenn and Zillone. Dude. If it, if it, it would be so cool. Do you know why the misfits broke up?

Like the, why the OG, like what the argument was that they broke up over? No. It was the price difference of a double cheeseburger versus a regular cheeseburger. How so? I think it was either Doyle or Robo wanted a double. And Glenn said no. And they said, we quit. and he said, fine, I'm starting up Sam Hayne.

It was in a van ride home from Detroit. Their last show was in Detroit. Wow. Back to New Jersey. They broke up over that. That was the argument that was like, where was it? Do we know?

Was it local join or was it? I think it was the donts. I'm almost positive. Holy shit. McDonald's killed the misfits. Scum. That's unbelievable. That might be the clips, Stephen.

Mount Rushmore all-time bass lines Great Flewwood Mac the chain Oh, all time Okay, yeah, yeah All-time This is unbiased, I think you'll agree For whom the belt holds

Loo-do do do I agree And then he leads into the Dund dun dun dun da Yeah But the chain The chain for sure The chain 100%

into another running into walls. Unbelievable pick. Excellent pick. And then, dude, I know you might not fuck with it, but tool. Is that schism? Is that the song? I might not fuck with tool. I don't know if you fuck with that.

I forget where you stand on. I'm the whole toolbox. I'm a non. I'm a penis guy through and through. Okay. Okay. I knew about Primus, obviously. I will put Tool on and sit here and just agree. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To a new part will come out and I'll just be like, mm-hmm. Yes. Absolutely. Tool takes me on a journey. Tool fucking rocks. Okay, good. I'm glad you agree. Penis music is some of the best music. The chain is excellent, though, because do you know the story of that?

He had that baseline. That was all, yeah, that was all he had. And then Stevie went in and just rocked the whole song. She was like, let me see if I can figure something out. I don't know. I just got fucking full body goosebumps. There's a VH1 series. I've talked about it before called VH1 Classics,

where they just like, it'll be like, Motorhead, Aces of Spades, Nirvana, never mind. Like they just kind of like break down a whole record. The one about Fleetwood Mac, about rumors. it's hard to find. You have to like find like a Spanish dubbed fucking YouTube version of it. That sounds awesome. It's awesome.

They literally talk about the relationship shit and then like that. Like, oh yeah, I just, I had an idea. So I just went and made the coolest album. That's a lot. It's just like the Beatles where it's like, damn, we got a deadline. We need a number one hit single. Give me like 10 minutes. Dude, I mean that, that documentary that came out

It was over COVID, right? Get back? Get back. Yeah. That's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. It's like Last Dance quality. Which last dance. Also, that was amazing.

But yeah, get back about Let It Be, right? That was the record. Like that documentary, when he comes up with it, watching them write it, made me a Beatles fan. I wasn't, I was never a Beatles guy. That's crazy. And that's what did it. That's what did it. That's insane.

Yeah. Rank, sublime. 311 and Red Hat Chili Peppers. 311, do you fuck with them at all? Not really. So 311, I think that's a pretty good definition of a couple tracks band. Sublime, I kind of respect. Dude, recently, those new videos of them playing with the Sun.

Yeah, the Sun's doing it a little too much. I like it. But he's just leaning into his dad's like thing a little too much. I like that, though. Because it's like, I just think that's, that. That's his connection with his dad, you know, is these songs. That's nice. That's pretty.

Because he died, he was so young when he died. Yeah. That it's like the music that he's left behind is what he has of him. So he's doing it. Like that's, he's probably been singing these songs his whole life. For sure. So he's doing the inflections that he's developed also his whole life. Very true.

They also back in the day covered minor threat and stuff. Like, that's cool. You know what I mean? I like that. I can respect that. It's not music that I'll ever willingly listen to. And then the last is a bunch of con men. I would go Chipeps on top all day.

Of course. Sublime 311. I saw, I think it was a Twitter post that was like, make a supergroup of the worst possible band members you could imagine. And it was like, flee, Anthony Kedis. It was just the Shy Peps. And it resonated with me. Justice for the Chipeps.

Would you rather have a movie theater in your home? home or a fast food restaurant. Movie theater, my home. Movie theater, 100%. Like a functioning movie theater with new movies in it? I'm inviting the homies over every day. That's my dream. I got a projector to do that.

You have that, yeah. But I can't put new movies on, you know? Well. Top five drummers and hardcore history. History. Yeah. Mackie? Mackie's up there.

Sammy? Dude, I watched videos of youth today from the 1720 thing. Sammy's still killing it drumming like an animal. The way he plays shit is bizarre. Like it doesn't make sense to me. I don't think he's open-handed. He just does shit like a kid who learned as a punk kid. Yeah.

So that's pretty cool. Danny Schuller from Biohazard. I knew. Yeah, I knew that was going to be. Top top five influence on me in all music. Poki from leeway probably is amazing. There's some modern guys who. Yeah, who does.

Definitely. Dude. Really fucking rip. Brennan. Brennan's amazing. DeFang. Taylor Young. Yeah.

Dude. Taylor was watching nails was partially me watching him just stare. Yeah. And do his thing. Loved that. Can you ever own too much merch? Yeah. Yeah.

I just donated three heaping bags of stuff. Really? Mostly just shit you acquired? Yeah. Just things I know I'm not going to wear. I would rather somebody who needs it and I don't want to sell it on Deep Pop or something.

I have eight vacuum sealed bags in my kitchen waiting to be moved to my new place. Just sitting there. Eight. How great are those vacuum sealed bags? They're the best. I use my fucking... I use my Dyson.

It has like an attachment. I just ring... Oh, I hand crank that hog. Couldn't be made, dude. I've never. Did you ever think you'd be here? 100 episodes in, Bo. No.

Truly, when we started, I thought maybe we'd get like 10, and we'd get bored of it. 100%. You know? It's funny is that we started as a show that we didn't have a guest, the first two. Yeah, it was just telling stories. And we had a blast, just telling stories. It is the best.

Here we are. 100 episodes later, doing it as a special event. How do you feel about the record mass murder now that a few years have passed? I think there's some bangers on there. Yeah. Violent procreations, one of my favorites. I just don't think you found the swag yet. That's all.

No, and it was, you know, that was co-written by Leo. Mm-hmm. And, you know, he and I messed really well when putting that together. I think we were like, we kind of smartened it up in a way that maybe people didn't want. Oh. Which was interesting, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

So we made it and I made it a personal goal to make it dumb again. And here we are. What do you think is the coolest thing you've done and most impactful from hard lore? From hard lore? Yeah. Mark's episode with the find the match. That was really cool. Yeah, be the match.

Be the match. Excuse me. That was, that felt like something, you know, very early on too. Also talking with Colin. also was like, I remember thinking like, oh shit, this is like cool. Like what we're talking about and the way that we're doing

this interview with him was like cool. Colin? Colin of Arabia. Oh my God. Yeah. And that was what? One day. One day. Yeah. That was crazy. I also, dude. I fucking love hauntler. The Salem hauntler is so good. I know. I wish people watched them.

I know. I don't know why they don't don't pop as much. It's our best stuff. It's my favorite. It's our favorite stuff. The Detroit one and the Salem. Yeah. How much have you guys grown as people while having the show? I think a lot. The way I've had

to manage my life and my time around it, I think the show has made me an adult, interestingly. You know what? I don't like anyone waiting on me and I've hated

anytime something would fuck up on my end for you. Like truly, that's that, that emotion is my least favorite emotion. Yeah. And it was like 63 weeks straight. Yeah, it was so often, especially in the beginning. 83 weeks. And so when it comes to like dealing with brands and like kind of emailing back and forth with people, I've had to learn that it's like, it's okay to take a couple days before we like get,

on something. I'm a guy who's like, they need this. They need it right away. It's taught me to like, it's okay. Take your time. Yeah, one of them I remember being like, dude, it's okay. Ask for this. And it worked. And it did work. Yes, it did. Yeah. If you could only play one harm's way song and one switching tongue song

for the rest of your life, which one are you picking? Oh, no. I love playing and become a machine. It's fun to play. And it's got a great, it's got a chorus, it's got a breakdown. Yeah, that part feels great to play. And when everything's real down. hand?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I wish I played and dropped sometimes just for that reason. Yeah. Yeah. And then I hit the broader bar and then I'm, thank God, that I don't.

Well, we still do it. It's just ugly. We do it all the time. It ain't the same. It ain't the same. It might sound the same, but you know when you're going... Yeah. Yeah. It feels so good.

One, if I can only play one. Kill for you if it got like a reaction, you know? It's like our number one song. Really? But it's different live, you know? It's just a different energy. Yeah. Favorite childhood memory.

Oh, wow. I got a real good one. Christmas mornings. Sorry, yeah, go ahead. Oh, yeah, dude. Christmas mornings were beautiful. There was another one. My dad was very, I think his, like, love language for us was,

gift giving. Yeah. But not in like a fucking extravagant crazy way, but in like a personal way where one day he had to go buy new trash cans. Because in Connecticut, it's not like L.A. where the city just gives you trash cans and you have to pay for him. You got to buy a trash can at Target and have it. Yeah.

And he was like, can you, I just got new trash cans. Can you take this bag out? I put it in there and there's just a lightsaber in there. And that was just, that's him. Yeah, yeah. Like, he's at the store. He's wherever. He's excited for me to be excited.

Yeah, yeah. And that was, that's, that's my dad. He's still a lot. So he is, that is my dad. Christmas mornings with my single mother. Yeah. She always made special. And, like, we would always do the same thing.

We would always be watching the same thing. We would always, there'd be tinsel. There'd be cookies. She'd always bake cookies. And it would always, like, Like, you know, okay, get your stocking. And it's like a thing to have an orange in your stocking. And it's like, you got to eat the orange.

And then it was. And then you would open up presents in order of like socks to a video game system or something. You know? Oh, yes. And I don't know how she did it, but she always. I remember one time. Credit card debt. She won.

No, couldn't. No. She won a TV through her job. And this was bad. No, flat screens didn't exist. yet, but it was like a big TV. And she, like, saved it and gave it to me for Christmas. That's crazy.

To play fucking Nintendo 64 on because she knew I... It's beautiful. You know, mom, she always went above me on. She went hard. She made Christmas really special. One that made me see, like, the kindness and humanity and others when I was very young. It was probably six or seven. There was a Chinese place down the street that I loved.

I think it was called China House in West Harbor, Connecticut, or Hartford, Connecticut. If it's still there, go there, get that steam dumplings. They're amazing. I loved these steam dumplings. I was obsessed with them. So I called. I'm six. You know?

Yeah. Six or seven. And I'm like, hello, how much are steam dumplings? I got, I find quarters. I was a scrounging motherfucker. So I could come up with seven, eight bucks, you know? If, in a pinch. Just from coins.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In a pinch, I could make it happen. Yeah. He's like, and the guy was like, oh, they're, you know, seven, 50 or something. I was like, okay, could I have one? This is my address. And the guy takes a second. And he's like, okay, sure, I'll be there in 15 minutes. Drops it off, says thank you,

takes my handful of change. He's like, you're okay? Like, all good? Like, this is all you need? Okay, thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you for the order. Have a great day. I called back weeks later to do the same thing. Yeah. And the lady's like, no, we don't deliver for under $15, $20. And I was like, but I had it recently. And she was like, no, we've never done that. That was the owner.

The owner hand delivered it to me myself just to be a nice guy. That's beautiful. Yeah. Hell yeah. Just took a handful of fucking pennies and nickels from a kid just because he felt like being nice that's a day. Hell yeah. One more just because I don't want to focus only on my mom. But my dad surprised me with Disney World one time.

Just like, that's insane. He was like, what are you? He had me for a weekend. It was over the summer. I would see him every other weekend. And he would be like, hey, what, you want to like, he picked me up from some like daycare thing. And he was like, you want to go on a trip with me this week? And I was like, well, does mom know?

I was six, you know. And he was like, yeah, she knows. I was like, okay. And he put, he got a fucking power inverter, put a TV so I could watch Godzilla in the back of his Thunderbird. He drove. Who drove. We couldn't fly.

Drove from Chicago, stayed in Nashville, and then got to Orlando, like, took two days, got to Orlando and saw everything. Had the best time. Had the best time. Fell in low with Pirates of the Caribbean. That was when it happened. Really? Fuck yeah.

So you're pre-movie? Pre-movie. I just thought it was a cool ride and I got a little musket thing, like a little hand pistol. Oh. See, I never got on it until I saw the movie. Oh, I loved it. Well, because I was big into the Goonies and there was pirates. So it was all the time.

I got you. That makes sense. What's the happiest you've ever been? This one time my dad surprised me by going to Disney World. Happiest I've ever been? I think the day I got married. Ah, that's nice. Graduating high school was huge, too.

Really? Because it was such a dark period of my life. Just getting out. That being done was like, wow, I get to play music now. Yeah, I don't have to do anything. I don't, there's no math homework left. I don't ever have to go to school again. I just get to, I get to be me now, you know?

Happiest I've ever been, probably on the post-human tour. I think we played Vitis, and it was one of the ones that sold out in advance. and we were just like leaving good merch night, good door money, you know, like everything was like, everything clicked. And I think that was the same week that post-human like the charted stuff came out. Oh, yeah, beautiful. And it was just like, this is, I'm like with my buds. Yeah. We're doing good.

I think we did it guys. This rocks. I remember feeling we were, I remember, I hope nobody gets mad at me, but we were literally at a gas station talking about how things were going. And we all just like hugged. It's beautiful. We all just like had a hug. It was like, we're doing great. That was a really nice moment.

I mean, we could... I mean, I guess. I don't know. How did you think this would end up when you started? I think you and I had zero expectations for our Lordlore. Knew we had a great name. Yeah. Knew we had unbelievable chemistry when talking via Zoom about technical difficulties.

Yeah. And we just have... That's all we had. We have a mutual... We have a shared interest of really niche things, like merch. And like... like certain performances that are caught on video that we both know, like stuff like that where it's like, oh, you know.

And that's just kind of where, but no, I had no expectations. Our buddy Jason, who was the reason that we used road microphones when the show started. Jason T. My good man. Jason, legend. What was the very first conversation that led to the creation of Hard Door? It was literally, how do I stream? Yeah. And it was like, let's Zoom call. I'll take over your computer and I'll set it up for you.

And then just while we were on the Zoom call, I was probably gossiping, kicking our feet, you know. T-he-he-he kind of a thing. I don't know the conversation, but it was that. It was that for a while. And then so Jay Weinberg is the reason that we are involved with Not Fest at all. So, you know, obviously we don't know the situation of what happened there, but we owe it all to Jay, 100%. And Chris Hudson, Chris Hudson from Notfest. was the one who, like, officially greenlit it.

He added stories from Tor to the name. Really? So there you go. I never actually knew that. That was him. Hard Lord was me. He'd added stories from Tor. Very nice.

I just, and it was, they were, I remember I still have the email from him that was like a company-wide blast where he's like, and then Colin is going to be doing a tour stories show, so, show soon. And now.

And here we are. Here we are. Favorite Chug Chug Chug-S squeal, squeal band. Converge? I think Martyr A.D. Oh, Martyr's a good one. The best one.

Would you consider Converge one? No. Because it's like a specific kind of... Because they do Chug Chug-Chug-Squil. They do it. They do, but it ain't all they got. And I think the Chug-Chug-Chug-Squil-Squil-Wans, that's all they got. Okay.

Martyr is probably... Every single pit is that. Yeah. Martyr is probably the one, then. The best one. Yeah. Dun-T-T-da-da-da-da-da-da-tun-tun. That's insane.

That's awesome. They know how to use it. You can't just do it. Figure 4 did it a bunch to, to a lesser extent, but that stands out to me. Did they? Yeah, suffering the loss has that quite a few times. Suffering the loss got some fucking pits on it. It's a great record.

I'm so God. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-d-d-d-d-d-hard. How is the show different now than you expected to be when he's first started? I'll tell you what. Shout out to Stephen because I, I think that's probably the biggest change. You don't even know. But like, here's the thing.

The ripple effect is felt. So I do know from my perspective. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah, Stephen, having an editor now truly unbelievable. Because my God, I cannot stress to you that for the first 90 episodes, every visual aspect you see in any way, shape, or form was media. at my computer for 15 hours a day.

The descriptions, the thumbnails, the reels, the editing, the mixing, and it was all trial and error. Right. Every bit of this show

has been trial and error. Figured it out. A little more trial than error. Lately, thank God. Yeah. Yeah, so that is different. But,

you know, I think the, I, there's like a pressure to it now that I never felt early, you know? Oh, yeah. 100%.

Like the Maddie Watkins episode, I was really stressed out about. Really? For weeks. Really? Because I felt like we owed it to her to do a good job, you know? I felt the pressure to do good, but I also knew that it was like me talking to two of my friends. That's the part I need to remember.

And like, I was definitely, I was stressed out about C-Space Cowboy, for sure, because it was like, I've never met Connie. Yeah. She's just going to be right here and I'm going to be talking to her. and like I don't have the safety of this. Yes, yes. And then it turns out she's great and it was super easy. The pressure, I feel of pressure. I think it's easy to forget that people, like this episodes like this,

I forget that anybody's going to hear this. I know. You know? Yeah. I assume nobody will hear this ever. Yeah. So the fact that anybody does is still like a miracle to me 100 episodes later. What do you think is your single favorite moment from the show so far?

Like single moment? 1,000% you being possessed in the hotel in Salem. The me going, and you going, hey. Like that, it's just. That was art. It was art. It was perfect. It's everything.

I'm better now. I'm cured. Yeah, you're better now. Yeah. Yeah, I'm okay. Yeah, long COVID. Long. I just had long COVID is what it was.

My favorite moment, I think, was kicking Martin's ass at Mario Kart finally. That was pretty good. He'll claim that the one the joystick wasn't working right. I don't know. Didn't you switch? You switched, though. We switched, and I still almost beat him. Yeah.

When he had that controller, he got like sixth or seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I remember. Then we switched, and I was like close second, or I was in first and a blue shell hit me. And then I got second. Bullshit. So you tell me what's a win, you know? Yeah.

That was really good. Also, what you guys will see, but the stigma episode, like that day. That, I mean, dude, that really felt like, I think we might have hugged that for that one. Yeah, that was like, we did it. We did. We did something really sick. That'll be four or five weeks from now. You'll finally be seeing that.

You'll finally see it. It's so worth the wait. If we did a band together, what would, what would we want it to sound like? What would we want it to sound like? Something that we're not already doing. Yeah, so not that heavy. I want to do full-on industrial. You want to do industrial?

I would do that with you for sure. I would do that. I've had a band name for an industrial thing for a decade. Me too. Oh. I'm not saying it. I'm not saying I'm not going to say. Yeah.

So it's good. Mark Horror. Come on, man. He asked, how has fame changed your life? That's not a thing. It's not a thing. 10,000 people watch the show in the scope of the world. The only time it's ever a thing is at a fest and people go, hey, and you go, hey.

And it's sick. At the place where we cover where we do the one thing we do, that's when it's like, hey, that's those guys that do the thing they do. I believe you guys have some unreleased content minis. Yes. So we're not fast wants to put. a bunch of that up on their premium thing. And I think that sounds cool. Because there's a lot of it that's like early minis where we weren't great at interviewing,

but I think some of the stuff is still pretty good. And, you know, they paid for that stuff. So it's theirs. I think that'll be up on their premium thing soon. What's your favorite guitar pedal? Petal. Petal. That's a great question.

I mean, the proof is kind of in the pudding because the one that I still have on my board is Caroline Guitar Company's Meteor. And that's the one where you hold the one foot switch down and it just grows and grows and grows and sounds crazy. That's cool. I love that pedal. Also, he sent that to me for free because he heard about our trailer getting stolen.

That's really cool. So, like, good guy makes cool products. 100%. Maybe I got a pedal coming out soon. I don't know. Exciting. Maybe. I got room on the old board.

Finally, it's fine. It's been in talks since COVID, but it's finally, like, finished and happening. With who? Oh, cool. Awesome. That guy. So it's like, it's all in the family, you know. Love it.

Yeah. Can't wait to try it. Yeah. My favorite is the Michael Klein, the pit, Oni. Dude, the ony's awesome. It's crazy. I really want one. But I don't use pedals, but I want one.

Next bat. Yeah, it's true. It's fucking insane. It's all I need. My right side is for band, unsaid band. Yeah. Left side is dead body. So it's bass guitar.

Smart. It's incredible. I just switch. I don't touch anything. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah, that's great. Did you expect the Twitching songs hockey jersey to blow up as they did and become a major resale item?

We knew they were dope. And that we did, because you look at the amount of bands that used that blank after that, they, you can't get them anymore. That blank is gone. Really? We were the first band and the last band to use them. I remember. That is a fact. Is that the one you had on the Disarmament?

harmonic rust tour? No, it was for, yeah, I mean, we might have, we had them for this is hardcore. We had a hockey jersey on that. Yeah. Might have been a football jersey. Oh, maybe it was a football jersey. My mistake. My mistake.

I'm not a sport. What can I say? Yeah, I know. Do you ever judge a band by their gear slash guitars? No. I definitely did. Definitely did when I was younger and thought I was like snobby and I've learned not to do that.

The best hardcore that's ever been made was on shitty valves. state marshal. Shit. You know, like, can't do that anymore. Dude, destroy the machines and

Pierce from within is just some random fucking solid state hit. And it's the best sounding thing. It's the deepest chugs that ever chugged.

Yeah. So should I drop out of college and start a ban? Absolutely. Your college is funding funding Israel. Why do you need to drop out of college

to start a band? That's true. You could do both. You should be able to do. But probably just drop out. What moment made you sure you wanted to be edge.

The moment I found out about it. Yeah. The moment I found out about it, I went, oh, well, I'm that. I'm that. And it's been, it's been 18 years. Yeah. Would kids today survive the bitch in the, bitch, it's in the mail days? Absolutely not.

What's the one? Amazon has wrecked you, motherfuckers. Oh, that. Oh, my God. Because, God, look, I get that it, like, vinyl takes a long time and it sucks to wait, but it's going to come. I know that it's hard, and I, appreciate patience.

But like I would love, trust me, I would love to cancel your order. So if you're, if you're concerned about it and you're like, this is bullshit. This is never coming. Please let me know.

I will cancel it. The worst has been the House of Black thing. How long has that been taking? I mean, no, it's not even that it's been long. It's that wrestling fans are fucking brutal. They don't know.

They're emailing every day. I'm not, we're not Amazon. This takes time to press. Anyway. No, they absolutely would not. And bitch, it's in the mail was the answer to, hey, where's my shirt? Hey, where's my record?

I've been waiting two years. Yeah. Bitch, it's coming. No, they wouldn't. But also, I appreciate everybody's patience and stuff. And although there's a lot lands in America any minute now, Twitchfitt's record got complete from the ground up overhaul when Kale passed. And we made two very special things for it that I think. think people will like a lot.

Opinions on Todd getting nails going again. All power to him, one of the greatest bands of all time. Straight up. Like, that's the answer. Like, can't wait to hear it. The singer and lead songwriter of one of the greatest fans of all time, whether my brother is in it or not, I can't wait to hear the new record.

Favorite Kiss song? Probably, I'm not super well-versed. Love Gun is pretty awesome. Love Gun's unbelievable. Dill-l-l-l-n-it, D-l-l-l-l-da-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-l-d-d-d-d-l-d-d-d-d-d-l-d-drl-d-d-l-dr. We're a big creature of the night guy. Big time.

The drum sound on that record sounds like a 50-inch kick and a 40-inch floor song. It's unbelievable. It's awesome. We're going to wind down now. We're, we're, uh, holy shit. Yeah.

This is that long? Yep. Colin, did you teach CM Punk how to cut his shirts? Every time he's on TV now, he's wearing that exact cut. No. No. No He been doing that

He has been cutting him But you know I'd like to think We're one in the same in many ways Desert Island lore One band Descog Typo One Grail shirt

Typo Life is Pain One video game Tetris Or maybe Mario Kart Tetrus I can play forever One movie I'm waiting for you to name

And I'll do mine Ratatoui One meal In and Out, number one, double meat, mustard fried, add chopped chilies, three packets of spread. Metallica's discography. I wouldn't listen to the whole thing. The Youth of Today's shirt I got from Mad Vintage recently, they break down the walls, 88 on-screen stars. On screen stars, unbelievable.

Movie would be Big Lobowski. You could watch that. Amazing. Over and over. Amazing. video game genuinely probably like Skyrim just something where you can really like make your own world a big RPG is is on a desert ring I would find every fucking secret in there if I had that yeah and then meal uh portillo's tallian beef god that sounds good add jardinera add mozzarella as is unbelievable with a coke diet coke would you guys ever consider doing a bourdain parts unknown type episode where you talk about your favorite. I figured that's kind of what we do when we do the day with.

So you should watch those because that's exactly what we're doing. Yeah. Watch the Brian one. Watch the Brian one. Watch the Chubby one. The Chubby one, too. Fuck. That's right.

Best records you associate with the four seasons of the year. This is a great question because I cannot listen to Crowbar when it's hot out. Okay. It's too slow and fat for hot weather. Dick, girthy. It's too girthy. for hot weather truly that's I really strongly feel that way typo is for a wind chill dude frigid summer um hot weather I like death metal yeah you could go I was gonna say Slayer is what

comes to my yeah I'm like D-Side is summer music to me um it's Easter it's Easter music so it's springtime music I'll do I'll do like punk's punk too in the summer like right now it's getting warm so I've been listening to a lot of like New York early New York stuff, you know, early New York hardcore. I talk about all the time, but Dagnasty, can I say? It's like a perfect summer record.

It is made to skateboard on in a street, you know. But records. So let's see. Summer, Lana Del Rey, born to die. Fall, misfits walk among us. Winter,

typo, October rust, which is interesting because it's about fall. Yeah. Spring, D-Asside once upon a call. There you go. That's pretty fucking good. Spring is when I'll hit some weird shit.

Spring I'll do Bjork. We'll just say post. Sounds great. Summer, yeah, metal. Probably. I'll say rain and blood, south of heaven, rain and blood. Beautiful.

Fall, it is the misfits. The coffin box set, just everything. Three versions of every song. No problem. Yeah, 100%. And then. Oh, this is the worst one. It's amazing.

Yeah, it's amazing. This is one where he fucks up where the base is out of tune. And then winter, yeah, I'll do, I'll say typo. I think I agree with you there. It's like cold. Or like warning. Yeah, something cold. Something cold crowbar is winter music.

Absolutely. It's girthy, girthy, girthy winter music. What will you all do for your 200th episode special? I don't know, probably this. Congrats on your upcoming 100, 100 episode, top five step of throw songs. That's great. Dead I'm Rionic cells. Desperate Cry.

Troops of doom. Desperate cry. Territory. Propaganda for me. Yeah. And nomads pretty good. Nomad fucking Rift. Slave new world's pretty good.

Slave new world Rift. We who are not as others is number five. Which, what is that on? It's on chaos. Is it? We who are not. It's like a deep B-side. Yeah, it's kind of, it's borderline in there.

It's the da-d-dun-dun-down, gun-dun-down. Dude, he loved that bell-belt. Yeah. Shaka-dook-d-do. Hard, dude. That's the best top-five I've ever done in my whole life. Do you guys think you could eat a whole raw onion?

Yeah. I guess this is something in our, and in the Discord, where Zuck, user Zuck is going to do it. He's going to eat a whole raw onion. I can't encourage or endorse this behavior. Here's the thing. A red onion, red onion is like meant to be eaten raw.

You could do it. A white onion, I think, will kind of fuck you up. Yellow onion is sweet. So I would say do yellow if you're going to do it. You think you could eat a whole entire garlic? I've done it. Or like a bulb? The whole thing.

Oh, no. Dude, I did a big clove once in it. It was so acidic I threw up. I do it all the time. Yeah, I can't. I'm weak in that way. I can't do it. It's really good for seeing.

I do it quite often. You stank for days. Yeah, you stank. Stank. Who can eat the most hot dogs in one sitting? You. You know what though? At that family food fest thing, you kept up with me pretty good.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I can keep up, but when it's like, I'm going to do this to do it, I lose. I keep up when it's like, oh, there's variety. Yeah, I'm eating everything. But if it's like, here's 40 hot dogs. I'll have like four. I'm good. Fair.

Best root beer brand. Sprecker, probably. What the fuck is Sprecker? That's a great lakes. It's like a German one, but it's from around here. They come in big glass bottles. IBC's great. Sioux City's great, but I'll go Sprecker.

I'm an A&W guy through and through. Dude, canned A&W, nothing touches it. I'll tell you what touches it from an A&W restaurant in a chilled mug. Yeah, that's cool. It is fantastic. That is good. Also, Culver's has their own proprietary diet root beer. That's cool.

And it's awesome. BJ's does too, and I like that. I love that. Best riff you've ripped off, like what it turned into or what I ripped it off from? The song Repression by Harm's Way is Life is Pain. That's cool. So many. Or to begin.

I just think like, even at our most melodic, you know, there was early twitching tongue stuff that was like, autopsy, you know? Yeah, sure. People thought we were, like, we're getting citizen tour offers playing incantation riffs. Right. And that to us was cool. The bad of the bone riff. You can't really.

The bone was, that's hilarious. But what's funny is you can't even see that it's just the riff. It's the same thing. It didn't inspire anything. It's just the riff. That's the same thing. That's just fun. That's got to be public domain at this point.

Eating pizza with a fork, how do you feel about it? I'm indifferent. With deep dish, it's how I eat it. Really? Yeah, I'm not trying to goop, slop all over the place. Burn here, here. I don't. I eat it straight up.

If you'd ever have to be replaced, be it in your respective bands or the podcast, who would you want to replace you? Oh, I don't even like that question. My band doesn't, like, Nick, they wouldn't need a fifth. Nick can do everything. Right. With me, I could see Alec. Alec would do fairly well, I think. On here?

I mean, it's just, we already did it, you know. With me, nothing would exist. No, I could be replaced. Drums. Drums. A ton of people could do it. Could Taylor? Rudder.

Rudder could take over on drums for me. Base. But it's bass and vocals. Just in loud. I'd be sick. Yeah, I're playing dead body now. Honestly. Sorry, Justin.

I know you don't like that. But I do. What about for twitching? Oh. Bow and looters. I think I could give it a shot. I think you could do it. You're a good singer.

I can. You can do it. I've heard you rip karaoke like it's nobody's business. I love karaoke. And do well. Like, you sing. well, you're good at singing. I think you'd be fine.

What are your favorite non-4-4-time signature hardcore riffs parts songs? I love a waltz. Yeah, a 3-4 is great. Yeah, absolutely. Morbent Angel has a lot of weird time signatures, a lot of weird time signature parts. And they do the A, they do like A-B-A-C-A-D, A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D. It's probably my biggest complaint about Morbid Angel is the length of songs. It's pretty hefty.

But eventually you just don't even. didn't think about it. True. And I would say D-A-Side, that's where D-A-Side differs, is they know how to end them, motherfuckers. I love a- This is about hardcore. They said hardcore.

I love a breakdown that goes into a three-four. I remember Brace is saying for a song called Friend or Foe that had a 3-4 breakdown. And I saw me at United Blood or something once. And I was just like, that part's fucking awesome. But I can't think of anything that comes to mind. You know, it's awesome? Shintin can'ta-d-d-d-dun-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-t... How?

Just guys in a room having fun is how. They go, what if we did this? And that's how the best music in the world, the hardest shit ever, all starts with, dude. Yeah, yeah. What if? Yeah. Survival of the streets by the Kroles. The intro is the guitar of the

La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La That first drum hit I don't know the timing of I know when it comes in from repetition Interesting But I don't the I don't understand the rhythm And I've always thought that that was a little That was a strange one.

Just sounds wrong but it's definitely Yeah, it's definitely just one But it's right or it's awesome It's four one It's fuck awesome What a hard lore moment made each of you laugh the hardest. You walking into the pole in Salem, again, Salem, but...

I think us listening back to the Furnace Fest fart audio was crazy. Bathroom audio was, we were dying, dude. That's a sinister premise. Your mic was rolling while you had to use the bathroom. While I was shitting. It's crazy. Clip up FaceTime. That was good.

In the Justice episode, we were dying laughing. That was good. I love FaceTiming life Yeah, that's awesome It's becoming a favorite Gotta do it more I love it Yeah

Which Tony Hawk game had the best soundtrack Thug for sure Head-Had Was that which one Had 25 to Life on it Because it's that one I think it was Underground 2 Okay

Yeah Banger Yeah What were your What are your favorite episode so far Mind Force Jasta Jostah

Cold is life Furness The one we recorded next week. Yeah. Mike Dejean. Stigma. Yeah. I think stigma,

Josta, all the in-person ones. Like even Taylor and Ian at the pit. Oh, that was awesome. Like I just love the in-person ones so much more. You know, there's so much better.

Agreed. What moment did you realize you would spend your lives together? What, what moment did Colin climb that hill? hikes every day and curse God for realizing. No! What the bono, no, girl.

What moment? I remember, I won't go too into details about numbers, but I remember when I was, Harmsway was recording, and we had a call with Chris, where I was like, yeah, we're going to send you to Furnace Fest, and also I think we can get you guys compensated a little bit more. And that was when it was like, Uh huh.

Well, yeah, like, this is a job? Really? Yeah. That was, that was, I remember that just being a moment where it was like, oh, yeah, we can, this is something. I agree. I definitely vividly remember that. Yeah. Favorite, okay, this is our last question.

Beautiful. Favorite non-hardcore metal punk album of all time. Non-metal punk or hardcore. So just anything soft, basically. Favorite album of all time. Great question. I'm wearing the shirt, so that's what comes to mind. That first Crosby Still's a Nash record with like wooden chips and sweet Judy Blue Eyes on it really made me go, oh, hey, hippies aren't all terrible.

And that was kind of a pretty eye-opening, pretty eye-opening mindset for me because my whole life, like hippie music was bullshit, you know. But when you listen to three guys and eventually adding Neil Young to be four dudes singing. And young. To be singing beautiful harmony. It's beautiful for sure. To avoid an answer like Morrissey Vox Hall, Michael Jackson Bad, I will say Genesis, Wind and Wuthering, which talk about time signatures.

Yeah. That's Prague pop. Oh yeah, yeah. Protopraud. Straight up. 100%. Was Peter Gabriel still in the band at that time? That was Phil Collins, baby.

That was all. Because, well, they were in the band together. I think Peter's out. Okay. I think so too. Is the eighth studio album 76. Yeah, that's, oh. Yep.

Okay. First record without him. Without him. Gotcha. And look at that. And look at that. And this is, and the reason is my dad grew up, is like a brand X, yes type guy. Sure.

You know? Goofy keyboards are his favorite thing. Got you. But do. Big Zappa guy. You know? You like Rush? And yeah, I mean, barely.

Oh, funny. Rush is too mainstream for me. Funny, yeah. Yeah. But this was the record where in the car, my dad is sharing something with me that he's excited to share. And I'm sitting there thinking like, this is unbelievable.

The second song, one for the Vine, I think is the best bridge. ever. Amazing. And it's all instruments. No words. Whoa. Cool.

The time signature is insane. You can hear they're just playing with toys in the studio making new sounds. Yeah. And that, that's music to me. That's real production. It's like, what do we got in the percussion box?

Take it out. Hand me the goat toes. I need to add something here. Perfect. Y'all don't know shit about goat. That's the thing. Having a musician for a dad. there were goat toenails in our fucking bathroom.

It's funny to play with while you're shitting. That we have that parallel. My dad's also a recording engineer and did similar things. But it was like, my dad was like Michael Jackson, Tower Power, like a lot of like soul, James Brown. My dad was really into that kind of thing. My dad was definitely down with that stuff. But he was Brand X. Yes.

Genesis. And so the song, your own special way on this record makes me like full body weep. Damn. Just thinking about him, you know? He's a lot. He's a couple hours away. I can't even hear it because he's great.

So, yeah. Genesis Wind and Weathering is my favorite non-hardcore metal album of all time. Good answer. And that concludes episode 100 of Hardlore. Didn't really talk about much, but somehow it's fucking three hours on. We cannot state enough how much we appreciate every single one of you. Wouldn't work without you. It wouldn't happen. It would not happen.

If this was a thing where it was like we were talking to the void every week, this would have lasted four weeks. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Easily. So we're only here because of you. We are so thankful, so grateful, and we love you all. Yeah.

And we'll see you next week for Hardlore Presents the heaviest band of all time. where we will do an official tournament with this beautiful bracket we've already made to determine the greatest band, heaviest band of all time. How about this? Leave your prediction for who you think's going to win in the comment below this video. Outstanding. If you've made it three hours in, try that now. Yeah. Thank you so much. We love you.

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