HardLore - 2022: Year in Review
Episode Date: December 29, 2022It's HardLore Time! In this last episode of 2022, Colin and Bo look back at the first calendar year of HardLore and the major events within it. Thank you to everyone who tunes in every week for the su...pport and for keeping the lights on. We took to twitter to poll what the listeners wanted to hear about, be sure to follow HardLore on Twitter and Instagram to make sure you're involved in future episodes. HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hello, welcome.
It's hard lore time.
Oh.
I love it.
I thought of it the second you said you were going to do that.
I was like, well, I got them ready.
It's so good.
But my room has changed a little bit since.
A little bit.
I'm in the next room.
You don't have a peloton.
I have a belt.
Yeah, I got all the same belts.
Exactly.
Well, welcome.
How's it going, Bill?
It's going really, really, really well.
I'm feeling good.
How was your Christmas?
It was lovely.
After I left.
It was pretty good.
You know, a lot of people were talking about not being in the spirit this year.
Really?
And I just couldn't, I couldn't disagree more.
Yeah, I felt very festive.
Very spirit.
It's festive.
I was watching movies every day.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm still in it, honestly.
I watched Home Alone last night.
Dude, I watched Home Alone too with my mom, and I realized how fucking funny it out.
It's so funny.
It's very violent movie.
It's very violent, but there's more like zingers.
Well, the zingers, here's the thing.
This is funny because we just spent an hour last week talking about Home Alone.
But I don't think we even talked about the humor in Home Alone 2 is in, like the references are done in a, like in the first one, it's kids are as scared of the dark.
Yeah.
And then in the second one, he hits him with kids are scared of the park.
Yeah.
Jeez.
No home alone this week, we swear.
This episode is about 2022.
The year, a retrospective.
Good year?
Horrible six months.
Incredible six months.
Goaded, goaded last six months.
I mean, quite honestly, because of the show.
Yeah.
It's been a lot of fun and has been like really successful and like helpful and cool.
It's been a life-changing thing for both.
It's been, yeah, without sounding too dramatic.
But the first, because I started working at my current job in May.
So those first five months of the year I still at this other place where I was quite literally the most depressed I've ever.
Like, it was the worst.
So we got a little bit of both this year.
Yeah, yeah.
A valley of this show start.
When did it?
When was the first episode?
May, June, April?
May, June.
June.
It was June.
What's interesting to me is, you know, when Hardlore started just a few months ago, it was not, we didn't think it was a podcast.
We didn't consider it a podcast, which isn't that weird to think about?
Nowadays, yeah.
It was just like a not-fest show.
Yeah.
And then by the episode, by the third episode, somebody was like, loved the pod or something.
And we were like, wait, it was this a podcast?
Calling oneself a podcast.
podcaster is certainly.
Gun to your head.
Gun to your mouth.
Gun to your ass.
It doesn't feel good.
How was your year?
That was pretty fucking good, man.
And again, a lot of that is thanks to the show.
Yeah, I got no complaints, really.
Famine, war.
I complain about those things.
Yeah.
Other than, like, personally, pretty,
can't ask for much more in terms.
of just kind of self-satisfaction in the span of a 12-month period.
But, yeah, what?
When did, I genuinely cannot remember this year versus last year, because it's really
starting to blur.
Sure.
When did the God's Hate record come out?
March 2021.
Really?
Almost two years ago.
Holy shit.
I thought for sure you were going to say March 22.
No, it was almost two years ago.
So the fact that we're kind of still riding on that is pretty.
insane to me. Yeah. But at the same time, that's the way it should be, you know?
We shouldn't have to write records every one, two, even three years. I can no, we talk about
Master Killer all the time, you know? I'm not, I'm not putting Gontade on the pedestal of
Master Killer because nothing is on that. Well, there's a few things. You know what? That's a whole other
conversation. Well, we got the time. The master killers of each genre.
Ooh. There's a few. A few.
them.
Genre killers.
But,
you know,
five deadly
Venoms comes up
because it's like,
oh yeah,
they put that out too
and it's also good.
But Master Killer is good enough
for them still to this day.
Yeah.
To just be booked
anywhere in the world
and,
oh,
they're going to play that?
Okay,
let's give them X amount of money.
Or a satisfaction to fucking...
Satisfaction.
That was five years.
Five years.
And then they followed up
perseverance real fast
with rise of brutality
and it's like
fucking incredible.
That's,
the thing. I don't know that I've got a rise of brutality in me right now.
Oh, dude, we should bring that up. We were talking with Colin about
hardcore bands and kind of adjacent.
With three great albums. Yeah, more than two. Most hardcore bands have two.
It made us think like, damn, two is kind of...
And we were digging fucking deep. Pretty deep, yeah. So what are yours...
If you're listening, what are your hardcore bands with...
than two great albums.
Full album. Yeah, not, no EPs.
Terror is the easy, easy pick.
Terror is easy. AFI is easy.
Yeah, I mean, a hate breed is very easy.
Super easy. But like, think about the bands we just said.
Like, you're talking some pretty well-known bands and like there's not, I mean, like,
even youth today.
Yeah, not a fucking chance.
You know, like my favorite bands.
Yeah.
We would say Chromex.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Colin, I don't think, agreed.
Now, he's the best wishes guy, though.
That's right.
So that's respect to that.
I like to hear that.
What were we talking about?
About writing records every few years.
Yeah, Master Killer.
Yeah, yeah.
Just I don't think every band should have to be forced to play this game of like,
we got to put out a single to stay, to keep our monthly listeners up.
It's a fake metric.
Yeah.
Money's the only metric that matters.
If you're, if you're, like realistically, if you're filling rooms and people are buying your stuff, you're succeeding.
Yeah.
Like everyone in bands will look at streaming numbers and like Instagram and Twitter followers or whatever and be like, oh, okay.
But then when it's like, oh, they sold out this room, it's like, oh, or they're playing over this band on this fest.
Oh, okay.
And really that's, streaming is, is a fake metric.
It really, dude, a perfect example is cannibal corpse.
They have relatively low streaming numbers.
And they're the headliner.
And they're the headliner, the biggest death metal band.
They smoke everybody.
They're fucking huge, you know.
Yeah.
Some bands, like Harmsway streaming numbers are astronomical.
For not having put anything out in a minute, they're really good.
Yeah.
And it's like, I don't have any.
Like, Be Harder isn't even at a million streams.
But I'll sell some shirts, you know?
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Yeah, you guys.
It doesn't matter.
You're right.
Truthfully doesn't matter.
Okay, this is a fun topic.
Before 2022, before we really crack this net,
what are the master killers of each genre?
Give me a genre.
Like, what do you think?
Like, okay, so OI,
shock troops is the master killer of Oi.
Yeah.
Some would say master killer is the shock troops of metallic arc-quil, but I say otherwise.
Like thrash.
The thrash, yeah.
I mean, the master killer of thrash is rain and blood.
Rain and blood?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The master killer of death metal is like, it's like covenant.
Probably covenant or something.
Oh, okay.
Or Pierce from within.
Okay.
Or destroy the opposition.
Oh, okay.
Some would say Master Killer is the destroy the opposition.
I was going to more Bullthroar.
Bothroar is such a funny band to call it death metal band, you know,
because they're like kind of not.
But they are.
Yeah, they're epic.
There's not a single blast to be in sight, though.
Yeah, they can do that all day.
They can go.
That's as fast as they go.
Yeah, but it is what it is.
What's the master killer of pop?
probably Thriller.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thriller's the master killer of pop music.
What about like 90s pop?
Like after Michael Jackson's like real,
well,
his heyday really didn't,
never ended,
but you know what I mean?
90s pop.
What was the best 90s pop record?
90s was very single driven.
Maybe Oasis.
That's rock.
That's Brit.
They would call themselves a Brit pop band for sure.
Yeah, but no,
because Liam and Noel are all about
fucking roll,
you know?
Yeah.
You jocon, you fucking wank.
You fucking wank.
Jogon is my favorite.
The rock and roll.
Jogon is good.
Yeah, I would say,
honestly, this is something I've said many times.
On the record, Acquiesce, an oasis B-side.
Oh.
I guess it's kind of not a B-side.
It's like a single that's not on an album.
But I think it's the best straight-up rock and roll song ever written.
What about classic rock?
that's actually a tough one.
Like the master killer of classic rock.
For me, it's, I would say my immediate go-to is Houses of the Holy by Led Zeppelin.
That's like, that's the one.
Is that the one with all the tracks on it?
It's got, no, like usually one or four, I think is considered.
Yeah, here it is.
If this is considered classic rock.
Okay.
The master killer of classic rock is 1984.
Oh.
I would actually consider 1984 the master killer of music.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Of all encompassed genres.
What's the master killer of music?
It's 1984 by Van Halman.
Am I wrong?
I mean, I guess not.
No, not really.
Have we ever talked about the dime bag?
Yeah, yeah.
The guitar thing?
Yeah.
Okay.
He's buried with it.
I almost bought 50150 yesterday.
I won record shopping.
I got Heaven and Hell.
Nice.
And I got the Ted Nugent record
was strangled on it
because you know what?
What can you do?
It goes.
What do you do?
You almost spot?
So you're going for a,
like, second singer type
type shopping?
Yeah.
I got heaven and hell.
I might as well get 51.50.
They had mob rules too.
I should have gotten that.
That's good.
Dehumanizers is my favorite.
Dude, D.O. Sabbath is
incredible.
awesome.
Yeah,
there's,
there's,
there's like,
more pound for pound,
more riffs per track.
They were like,
all right,
Oz's gone.
I got to,
I'm gonna play some fucking riffs.
Yeah,
man,
I really,
I'm really,
I'm going through like a Dio thing right now.
It's,
dude,
that's,
I was just days ago.
Really?
I went through the whole
D.
D.F.
Sabbath,
the scog.
Had the best day.
Anyway,
2020,
22,
22 started with F.
FYA for me.
last year.
Where on stage, I discovered that Bob Sagitt died.
Devastating.
You know, were you a full house kid?
Huge.
Really?
Okay.
Huge, dude.
I wasn't.
For some reason.
I don't know if I was like too old, like a little bit too old where I was like, oh, that's for girls.
You know, something stupid.
I was definitely into family matters and like home improvement and shit.
You were home improvement over Full House?
Well, dude, you got to think about the rock block.
It was Power Rangers, Simpsons Home Improvement, Simpson's Seinfeld, King of the Hill.
Yeah, that's a good block.
You know, I'm not touching that dial.
Full House was just on the second I got home from school,
it was like Full House Boy Meets World in syndication.
You know, so that's like...
Boy Meets World. Boy Meets World is caviar, you know.
Did you watch Nickelodeon shows?
Yeah, of course.
I loved Pete...
Mostly the animated stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like A Real Monsters, Angry Beaver's.
Mm-hmm.
Cat Dog.
Hey, Arnold.
Love cat dog.
Doug.
Love Doug.
Yeah, Doug is great.
Doug was fucking amazing.
Fucking Roger Clitz, dude.
Patty Mayo, you know.
know I didn't fuck with her. So sexy, Patty Mayo, right? Disgusting. Oh, right. Yeah.
I wouldn't even talk to her. No, she's hot as fuck. Jog on, Patty.
Okay, so 20-22 kept going. F.Y.A was awesome. We'll be there next week. Very exciting.
Wow. How about that? Good segue. We'll see you all there. We're very excited.
If you guys look at the lineup, Sue, Sue, you want us to talk to. If there's some suggestions,
you know, whatever.
We kind of, we wing these things.
We should probably stop.
Oh.
It's better than that way.
We're keeping the punk spirit in the show.
Dude, I would love to talk to Mina.
That'd be awesome.
That'd be awesome.
I got an in.
I got it in there.
I'll hit her up.
She knows.
She knows I've been ripping her off for 10 years now.
So that'll be cool.
We'll see.
I've never seen Life of Agony.
So I'm like pretty excited.
Really?
To the point where like,
How, like, how naughty do I get at this show that I'm working at?
Yeah.
You know?
Probably not that naughty.
I don't know.
Fun naughty.
Like singing and jumping?
Just having a little fun.
But you know there's going to be a couple.
It's part.
And then they're playing all the whole album.
Are they really?
Yeah.
They're playing all, oh, man.
Yeah.
That's going to be fun.
You not seeing that is almost like me never seeing Metallica.
Almost.
It's very similar.
Like they're one of my Metallicas for sure.
There's no,
there's,
who's the Metallica of Master Killer?
Life of agony.
This is fun.
This is a fun one.
So that would be fun.
Biggest other than that.
What's funny is,
FYA January,
LDB,
I think is like April or something,
but March,
the Batman hits.
Oh,
man.
That was the highlight of the year.
I watched it just the other night,
like a week ago.
It's insane.
After I got back from my life.
Dude, great.
Great.
There's like 10 moments throughout the movie when you're rewatching it where you just go, oh my God, this point.
Yeah.
I don't know who figured out the Nirvana song to work so well with the composition.
Michael Keachino did.
Oh, really?
It's quite literally genius.
It's genius.
It's so good.
Yeah, I was watching it on the plane and then finished it when I got home.
My only complaint, that's a long, that's a thick bitch of a movie.
It should be, though.
Because there's, there's like, it's kind of like three parts, you know?
The Ridler stuff starts it.
And then it goes into the Carmine Falcone stuff.
Yeah.
And then bookends with the riddler stuff.
Yeah.
Love that.
And I hope that whatever the second one is is not Joker right away.
And that the Joker can stay this kind of like mysterious figure.
Oh, I love the Hannibal Lecter vibe.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
Keep him in a prison cell for a whole other movie and then let him break out.
the post-cratation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm down with that.
I love the score.
I love everything about it.
I started watching Dune this year.
I know it didn't come out this year,
but that was a big movie for me.
Yeah.
You just watched it a lot.
I just like,
I watched it one night.
You know, I got my,
once I started living alone,
I made my apartment really my own.
Sure.
I made everything really nice and cozy.
And I was like,
I went through like a thing
where I was just like watching movies,
like sitting down watching a movie.
It's not,
I usually am playing a game
and then have something on.
I just sat and watched Dune.
I also watched Dune with a VR headset.
And headphones on.
Just to do it.
I got really nauseous.
Yeah, that sounds awful.
Sold it to change.
You want to be on Aracas?
What's your sleep?
So hot.
What's your sleep movie lineup?
Sleep movie.
Do you put on things to go to bed?
I put on a pod.
I put on one of,
I've never mentioned it on our show,
but there's a podcast called Death is Just Around the Corner
that is a lot about,
kind of conspiracies, but like confirmed one.
So it's like, here's what the TED Offensive really was.
Here's what Operation Northwoods really was.
He's got a very, his name is Michael Judge.
He's got a very monotone voice, and it's very easy to fall asleep to.
He's got a five-part series on the JFK assassination,
and he just came out with a sixth one.
How are there six parts on that?
Dude, listen.
You got to, you know, listen.
You tell me.
There's a grassy knoll.
Texas was the reason.
That's all you need to know.
You ever been there?
I've been to Texas.
Yeah, I've driven...
I've driven through the spot before.
It feels eerie.
But have you been to the fence?
No.
You go to the fence and there's like...
Like nothing but graffiti and it's like this is where it was.
Like arrows like all this shit.
And you kind of line it up and you go, oh, oh.
It's very telling.
Like you don't think that they could have made the shot?
It becomes really a...
parent when you think of that clip.
Why don't you turn your fucking room ball off back there?
He's vacuum.
It's finishing right now.
You can hear that?
Yes.
It's gone.
Yeah, I muted my mic.
You're right bad.
Tell him to stop.
Don't do this.
We'll do this any other time.
Dude, we just fucked around for an hour and a half.
He's got a schedule to keep.
Well, he's done.
Let him take a break.
All right.
Sorry, I didn't think you could never hear anything else.
So I didn't think you'd be able to hear that.
But anyway, you can kind of line up, line it off.
and like imagine the clip that you've seen and blah blah blah and it's like oh yeah this is that's where
you got shot from for sure it's crazy that's pretty wild it's one of my favorite like american
history eras it's so that's the that's the only thing you go to sleep to um headphones or
raw well since i'm living alone i'll just go raw but yeah i used to yeah i used to wear headphones
but I'll put on another hardcore history, Dan Carlin,
and listen to some brutal shit.
I like boring things to fall asleep to.
If I have the TV on, I'm going to stay up.
I mean, so I used to go to sleep with the office.
The office was like a pacifier for me, you know?
I hear the theme song, I'm out.
What's your favorite Christmas episode of The Office?
I thought of this today.
Benny Hanna, 100%.
Benny Hanna?
Yeah.
I like the one where he buys 15 bottles of vodka.
Season two?
It's just season two.
though. So it's like they haven't figured it.
They haven't cracked it yet.
No.
But I love.
I do like that it kind of ends and everybody's having a good time.
I love when Toby's like we're really not.
Zip it, Toby.
Yeah, that's good shit.
Season three though is like they figured it's, they figured it all out.
Yeah.
Three to six is when that show, or even seven is when that show is really, really rocking.
What else happened this year after the Batman?
You didn't ask me what I fall soon.
What do you fall asleep to you come?
So fucking rude.
Well, anyway, well, now Lana picks.
So mostly it's like the Barbie Nutcracker or what else is she?
Like every night?
No, not every night with the Barbie Nutcracker.
December, I got to go to sleep to Muppet's Christmas Carol a lot, which was...
That's fine.
Yeah, no complaints.
I was eating good in December.
But, yeah, a lot of times it's the fucking Barbie Nutcracker.
It's a rough life, but you know
When
When Casey and I still live together
She would play like weird
Like ambient classical
And just have it under her pillow raw
But I would have headphones in
You know, whatever helps you sleep
On tour I do it with headphones too
Have to you can sleep with headphones in?
Like buds?
Yeah, buds
But only on one side, you know
Because I sleep on my side
But then that fucks up your equilibrium or something
No, I'm fine
Are you though?
For those of you, I haven't talked about it, but I figured out my sickness.
And it's because of this, I think, automatic netty pot thing that I got.
So if anyone suffers from, they call it airplane ear.
You got, that's what you got?
Apparently.
Bro, I'm still sick from Boston.
You think I got the same thing?
I think, well, I mean, I got, while we were talking to Colin.
I remember swallowing and going, uh-oh,
like while the interview was going on.
And then we ate afterwards and swallowing was starting to bug me.
And then the next morning I was fucked.
So my throat,
the thing is my throat never hurt.
I just got the like,
you know,
the snotties.
Fucking cleanse yourself, dude.
How?
In the waters of Dr. Minnie.
Oh, okay.
So 2022, what happened?
LDB was right after that.
That was fucking incredible.
that's coming up we'll be there yeah the way that is coming up i really didn't do a whole lot this
year until we started doing stuff we i saved your way went to our on disclosed location and we were
very busy um and uh a lot of practicing but i didn't go anywhere i didn't do shit i saved your life is
what you're saying you saved my life you changed my life i did this this and all of you listening
has genuinely
Oh, absolutely.
And it's really like doing the show,
we could have done this to an echo chamber
and been like,
eh, it's fun to do.
But the people listening to it and responding to it.
And like,
this is the example I use.
During the Sound and Fury episode,
yeah,
you mentioned that we have 400 followers.
Wow.
And there's like 4,000 now on the Instagram.
That was, that was, that's crazy.
That's 10 times.
Yeah.
That was,
or was that end of August or beginning of August?
I think it was the end of August because I missed a wedding September 9th.
It was because I got sick.
I don't think it was,
but that's fine.
That's neither here nor there.
That's,
either way,
the growth,
the provable growth is,
is, uh,
is pretty,
pretty surreal.
We got,
we got some ads coming.
I'm sorry.
You're right.
July 21st.
I know.
I know,
30 first.
It's fine.
Um,
yeah.
It's been,
it's been crazy.
Boy.
You like any records this year?
I'm really trying to think of like
shit that I did and I've had a pretty quiet year up until we started.
The high-vis record I really like a lot.
That for sure.
I was trying to think of like, okay, what came out this year?
Like what do we got?
The high-vis record is one for sure
that I've been enjoying a lot.
It sounds very, very oasis-y.
I hope they don't mind me saying so.
But like in the best way.
They're pretty.
In like the most fun way, though.
You know what I mean?
It's like the attitude of voices, if that makes sense.
I feel like that's being told you sound like Master Killer, you know?
Who is?
Like, oh, no.
Water break them.
Water hive, mine.
Yeah.
I like the year that you like.
I like the Age of Apocalypse record.
Oh, yeah.
I forget that that was this year because I've had it for so long.
The gridiron record, obviously I love.
I'll go to bat for that.
I'll be,
it's been kicking in small quarters for that for years to come.
What else do I like?
Travel Days.
Just said the same thing last time we talked about this,
but yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's,
this is the first year I've just had no,
this,
doing this show has given me kind of no time to do anything else.
I know.
Weirdly.
We're really,
It doesn't seem like a lot of work.
We talk for two hours a week and then I edit it.
But there's like you guys,
we fucked around for an hour and a half before we started
with audio stuff, camera stuff.
Colin got a capture card, this whole thing.
It's just like.
Buttery smooth.
Smooth as smooth as butter.
Good.
Should we go to the like Twitter stuff?
Or should we just kind of go?
Should we go through our recollections of the year first?
Or we're kind of caught up?
We're kind of caught up.
I think,
I went to a bunch of shows.
I saw a bunch of friends.
I saw cold orange and dying wish.
Saw Vane with Touche.
Nice.
Both at the metro, weirdly.
Nice.
And like that was, I remember, I get the envy feeling, you know, where it's like,
oh, man.
I miss.
I miss.
And for the children, it felt really, really good.
See, that's the thing.
Like, I felt that when you were playing.
Yeah, right.
I was like, damn, I don't get the.
fucking play this stage. That's crazy.
This is like the sickest thing I've ever seen.
Yeah. It was awesome.
It was really fun.
Very good.
That's somebody,
somebody asked about that.
So we'll,
we'll touch on that.
Let's see.
The first one is Harry's house.
Is that Harry Styles?
Fuck him.
I don't know.
I don't know shit about him.
The whole hardcore guys doing
shoegaze thing?
Who's doing shoegays?
I suppose.
They probably mean like the grunt shit.
I don't think it's like shoe gaze,
that's just not,
it's not new.
No,
not at all.
Like,
here's my stance here.
People talk about hardcore guys doing shoegaze,
hardcore guys doing death metal.
Yeah.
Shoegaze fans who then go to make shoeges music,
enter the genre with one perspective.
Death metal fans who only listen to death metal and write death metal,
enter the genre with one perspective.
They've never fucking heard or,
deciphered the way songs are written outside of their own little bubble.
hardcore people who like these songs that are fucking 90 seconds, 60 seconds, 15 seconds,
who apply that.
Death metal songs are fucking long a lot of the time.
There's eight parts too many that don't need to happen.
They don't understand the what versus the why.
We were just talking about this with dying fetus.
dying fetus understands the why versus the what why do we do this part here why do why do why wouldn't we
stop the song here they get it not very few bands get it the why is more important than the what
it don't matter how crazy how technically your riff is if you're if in my mind i'm thinking why would
they be doing this here they're like there has to be an intention behind the riff even
Even subconsciously, you have to be like, oh, they're doing that because this thing is going to be crazy after or something.
But anyway.
Composition is what we're saying.
Composition.
I have no issue with hardcore people playing music from other genres because they enter it with A, the hardcore ethos.
And B, the perspective from a hardcore listener.
I think, yeah, speaking to the ethos too, like you as someone who maybe has played in bands or gone to shows or done shows or whatever, you realize how.
I'm going to say easy.
I don't mean easy.
I just mean how uncomplicated it can be to put a show together,
to put a band together.
You know,
if you can make something a thing that people just want to be at,
you can have a cool show.
So I think like you can,
like you said,
play literally any job.
I mean,
think about from like youth code to title fight to
nails to fucking God's sake.
Like it doesn't,
it doesn't really matter.
We've talked about this a million times, but like, yeah, you can, I think there's always
going to be trends.
There's always going to be like certain styles that are more popular than others, for sure.
But it's, it's anytime you get people listening to aggressive music and get people in a room,
I think it's like a net positive.
100%.
Well said.
Ignite put out their first record with Eli on vocals.
Anyway, definitely some gear.
Always wondering what you guys are using.
What are we using, Bowen?
For the children,
okay, bleeding, unbelievable track.
Right?
I got nothing.
Bleeding.
I got nothing.
I got tracks, but Zoli, to me, Zoli is the band.
Yeah, he's like the guy, right?
He's the guy.
We played one show with them and not Bigwig,
death by stereo.
Oh.
In Germany.
It was, it was Ignite, Death by Stereo, Harms Way.
Wow, the homie Paul Minor, dude.
Yeah.
They were really cool, actually, Death by Stereo.
We played like a theater,
and in the basement was like all,
like all the costumes, all the wardrobe.
And we were all, yeah,
because it was like a theater.
Oh.
So they were like stock, like wardrobe.
I thought you were saying Death by Stereo's costumes.
No, we all put on like British Army,
like redcoat uniforms.
They were like goofballs.
It was cool.
They were one of the first bands
I like ever got into in sixth grade.
Wow.
anyway
um
makes sense
for the children
was the first time
I was using this
uh quad cortex
set up with a
Seymour Dunkin 700 watt power amp
if you have more questions about that
you can hit me up directly
because Colin
I think they're talking
music gear or
are they talking this gear?
I don't know
well we're roaded out
we're on steroids
dude
yeah
we're roaded
we're open to
competitors
yeah yeah for sure
but we're
word it out right now.
Yo, let's take this moment.
Okay.
To shout out Jason.
Jason.
Our buddy Jason, who no longer works for Road, is the man.
He's the reason we...
You said it.
He legitimized the show to his name.
He is the reason that the show looks and, I mean, in a way, sounds good.
Yeah.
Truly, like him by himself.
Yeah.
Provided us with what we needed to make this.
real thing. So thank you, Jason.
Thank you, Jason.
Our loyalty to road
ends with you.
We will go
to the highest bidder.
Shout out to Scher,
Senheiser.
Hail. Hale's got good stuff.
We're open.
I'm going to put my fucking SM7B back up here.
Audio technica.
Yeah, we'll take, we'll just
send it our way.
We're Jason loyalists
above and above all things.
So yeah, I guess if you're talking for podcast stuff,
Colin has been using a Sony ZV1.
E10.
Oh, E10.
My apologies.
And I have the ZV1F.
Yes.
Which I got, this is the first episode with it.
So if it looks good.
This is why.
And then a bunch of lights.
We both got the fucking Elgado.
That's also new for me.
I had some pretty janky stuff before.
He did.
We're looking good.
We're feeling good.
We're smelling.
Feeling good, Lewis.
Smelling all right right now.
I smell really good.
You know, that's my favorite compliment in the world?
What?
If anyone ever tells me like, oh, do you smell good?
I like, I remember the moment.
Yeah, it's a good moment.
It's my favorite.
See, and that, for me, stems from Elizabeth Finer in sixth grade telling me that I smell funny in front of the whole class.
Oh, no.
So it was like, I don't want to smell funny anymore.
What do I do?
you. Yeah, what do I do? I get Polo Sport or I get the Michael Jordan Cologne. And I douse myself in that.
Yo, Harmsway Cologne with the Bulls logo on it. That'd be so sick. Huge. I like the guilty Gucci one, the Johnny Depp one.
Pre-oh, that one is, I think I have that. Pre-trial. I think I have that, actually.
The black bottle? No, it's a different Gucci then. I have a few pretty nice sense.
There's a couple of guilties, but there's the black bottle one I specifically like.
shout out Tom Ford, O'Dwood.
That's my guy.
Sure.
The lack of a new Harm's Way album, somebody asked about.
Yeah.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
You're going to wait a little while.
That's what you're going to do.
Somebody asked about recording the theme of hard lore.
That was all Colin.
Yeah.
All of, pretty much all of the legwork is Colin.
I yelled one take.
He put it in there.
It's a great take.
But hey, you know, in like,
A week, in a week we'll be able to talk about, well, we can talk about it now.
It doesn't really matter.
But in a week, we'll be able to, something that I was able to do is fucking manscaped, which is cool.
Yeah.
We can talk about it now.
We don't have, our promotion stuff doesn't start yet.
But when you're hearing this, the following week, the fifth is when it starts.
So the week after this.
Yeah, the week after this.
Manscape.com code hard lore.
Don't do it yet.
Just start planning for the, I don't do it next week and then put it in.
We hit a few, we get a couple of people to use that code.
We're signing our souls away long term deal.
It's just a single digit amount of people.
That's right.
That's all we need.
But yeah, so like that's cool.
You know, like there's other stuff that obviously goes on.
But a lot of the, a lot of the legwork is Mr. Young.
The thumbnails, most of it for all the minis, I got to make those the fucking morning of.
I got to upload those.
I got to write the fucking descriptions for those.
This guy's sound asleep wakes up and goes, oh, good clip.
I'm like, you're fucking cock sucker.
Yeah, the theme song, though, was very, like, spur of the moment thing.
It was like, I guess we should have a theme song.
And boy, am I glad we did that.
Yeah.
Because that was another thing.
We're right on, very early on.
It was like, okay, we're treating this like a real thing.
Aha.
I see what you're saying.
Did you play that or did you program that?
That's a program.
Gotcha.
And somebody pointed out that it's like a youth of today.
or something?
Not that I know of.
Somebody said it was,
or something,
fucking trial or something.
Shabbid,
but,
shabid,
but,
do but do,
do but do,
ding.
It's kind of,
other than the ding.
Like,
yeah,
but,
better,
better,
better,
Ball,
somebody said that,
that was,
that was,
that was,
that's,
that's getting,
that's getting,
that's,
no,
I know,
like,
like,
that's,
that's that.
That's that.
That's that.
Um,
and that was
really just because I was having so much fun programming
at that time that I was like, I'm just going to do
a cool feel.
And then I just entered
a bunch of things and then moved
a couple of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I played the
little riff, too, the little solo.
That was me
channeling Marauder.
Yeah, it's great. That's all it was
trying to do. It's a great theme song.
People love it. We've got to do
the full version.
Oh, God. Put it up online.
Mystery pit firework during
God's hate 8-1-8 break the day.
Yeah, we don't know how that got there.
But I do remember it.
I've visibly...
That created some issues because Martine,
the guy who booked the show,
is on the stage playing with the band
for the people at the venue are like,
yo, did you do this?
And he's like, no, I swear to God, I don't know.
Yeah.
And they're just like, okay,
how did they get this in?
We have security.
Dude, do you know about treasure maps
at fests.
What?
This is insane and kind of cool,
but also kind of scary.
People will, like, for example,
Riot Fest, they know it's in this huge park.
Where people are like bearing bombs.
They'll bear,
so I wonder if maybe that happened
or if security just didn't catch it.
Yeah, so they for sure just didn't catch it.
Because that happened at Virginia Beach
on a warp tour during our set,
during our last song.
There was like a ton of fireworks.
Weird.
Best meal of the year.
Wow.
We're about to actually, so James' birthday is the second.
And we're going out to eat in two days.
Well, we're going out to eat in two days.
Oh.
Yeah, the 29.
A place called, it's called like the French version of beef.
So it's like boof.
But it's actually really close to here.
It's like very fancy kind of steakhouse.
Not French.
It's just the, I'm just kidding.
Best meal.
Wow, that's a great question.
That is a great question.
I just, dude, honestly, Colin, the McDonald's the first night in Birmingham.
That was very special.
It was just special, you know, it was very fond.
Because neither of us were at home, you know?
It was like, was that the first one we traveled to together to do Furnace Fest?
That coverage begins next week, by the way.
Oh, cool, fun.
Start rolling out those Furnace Fest videos.
That was very, that felt good.
You know, Brittany was there.
my fucking, my best bud.
That was very, that was very special.
That was fun.
So it's not that the meal, it's, I mean, the meal was.
It was impeccable.
Yeah.
Perfect.
But it was the circumstances certainly added to it.
That, that very, that feels like a very Andrew Baker answer to me.
Yeah.
Former, former merch guy to the stars, her own play and switching tongues.
Where no matter where we were, if we were at Trujillo's, a fucking steakhouse, anything.
he would go to McDonald's across the street
and then after go,
best meal all tour.
Speaking of Trujillo,
he was at for the children.
Yeah, what the fuck, man?
I don't know.
I didn't get a moment.
You should have had a moment.
I should have had a moment.
I blame John.
100% on John.
John, if you're listening, that's on you.
That's on you, brother.
Favorite wrestling match of the year?
Oh, that's a good question.
Probably MJF,
with the regal turn.
That was your, you liked that?
I was there.
Yeah, I know.
I saw a picture of you in shock.
I know you loved it.
I,
I did.
But you think that was better than the dog collar?
No, not better,
but like,
I can,
I differentiate between, like,
what is like objectively,
like, oh, this is.
Okay,
because you're saying,
okay, so you're going in favor.
But,
but, like,
I've never seen a man,
managerial turn quite like that.
Like that was such a cool
dynamic.
It's less cool to me now
in retrospect.
Fair. Very fair.
Knowing that it was like some bullshit
contractual thing.
I don't like that.
I didn't talk about it.
I did a bunch of wrestling songs this year.
Oh yeah.
That was really cool.
Let me get into the lore in that
a little bit.
The hard lore.
So that started
with
when
when Tom
Malachi Black
left
WWE
they started
tagging
Brody and Tom
as the kings
of the black
throne
and in PWG
so they were like
could you write a song
for us to use
at PWG next week
like that was really it
it was like
I don't know
how to do this
but I will
so that I learned
how to program drums
to do that
that like I bought the Kurt Pack had never really done it before like like the God's Hate record
was the last big creative thing I had done and that was no there was no demos for that it was all
just like we did pre-production one time oh yeah that's for like three songs and then the rest was
whatever so crazy to me but I had to do so I didn't have time to like record drums with Taylor so
he was like you should get the Kurt Pack because it sounds really good yeah and nobody'll know it's
program. And I don't know that's true, but...
Well, I literally asked you if you played the intro to our theme song, because I genuinely,
I don't know, I know you have an electronic kit, you know?
Yeah.
So, just goes to show you performance versus programming can be...
Oh, it's very similar now. But, I mean, obviously, you can't beat the real thing.
Yeah. You can get fucking close.
So that, after doing the Kins of the Black Throne one, there was no, like, release for that
song or anything because there was no video of the intro.
there was no need for it.
Because PWG stuff is so hard to track down.
You have to buy the DVD.
Yeah.
And then we've,
like,
Brody was like,
okay,
what do I use as my thing?
Do I just use it be harder or do we,
like,
we were going to chop and screw,
like,
part of the Violence Unlimited intro or like the God's Hate intro.
And then we decide like,
hey,
this is the,
this is the hit song on the record.
Let's fucking,
let's go with that.
It'll be awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And it is awesome.
To this day, every time it happens.
And then I get the call that's like, hey, could Kings of the Black Throne be ready for TV in like a week?
So then I had Taylor do like an actual mix.
Yeah.
And it's like a real, became a real thing that was like this perfect storm of things.
I had Lana do the intro.
Oh, yeah.
and that one happening kind of led to the rest of them.
The Wardlow one was after that.
The Julia one that was,
Julia one was where I got to really flex my whiskers a little there.
Yeah.
So at the same time, yeah, Emma,
shout out to Emma who absolutely crushed that.
At the same time,
like I might be retired from that world, you know?
Just because it's so much work.
And I'm sure it's not as much work for people who do it, like, for a living.
Yeah.
Because it's like, not a thing that, like, if I get paid for it,
it's the wrestlers being like, here you go.
Thanks.
So, but it's like, it's such a niche creative world.
And really hard to kind of really get into.
Hard to get into.
And like, it's a miracle that I made it in.
You had a whole leg in the door.
I got a leg in the door, but at the same time, I'm not going to fight for that spot.
I'm not going to arm wrestle with the guy to be like, give me your job.
It's his job.
Totally.
And it's such a small world musically that, like, that Julia song easily could have been like the first new Twitch and Turingtone song, you know?
Musically, it could, very well could have been that.
and instead it's like
this song for this thing
that will be big
in its own way
but not in a way that really
I can do anything with down the road
other than like doing more wrestling songs
you know.
So that's why the word low one that's gone
maybe you'll hear a new version of that
at some point for some for something
for something.
So back to I will say you said the dog collar match
and it made me think of the,
the Briscoe's FTR Final Battle.
Dude, all three of those.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the one the other night was,
yeah.
Like, it was hard to watch.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
That one was really cool.
That was really good.
I would shout out any of those
for a match of the year.
Was Brody's debut this year?
Yeah, January.
It was January.
That was very special.
That was incredible.
Any of the Derby ones could be Brody Darby.
Could be my match.
The fucking the choke.
Yeah, that was.
Like,
like,
I hate that that got spoiled for me
because that would have just been the most
special thing to witness live.
Him winning got spoiled for me.
Oh.
It was a tape thing.
And he purposely didn't tell me,
but he was trending after it happened.
Uh-huh.
Like after the Wednesday taping.
I would have loved to have seen it
and just witness it without knowing.
But any of those matches, the whole Derby, like, singles feud was really hit spot for you, boy.
Hit your spot, bro.
Personally, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who's your favorite wrestler in AW?
Jamie Hater.
Yeah.
Do we are haters right here?
We're haters, dude.
You know what?
I will say, actually, like, as frustrating as that storyline was with, like, the back and
with Britt and stuff, because we were so ready.
Yeah.
We were so ready with the Tony Storm thing.
When she won, that felt really good.
Felt really, really good.
And now she's going on and having the best women's matches.
Dude, the other night against She did like the power bomb and then lifted her again, right, for the finish.
Did you, you can hear the audience gasp.
Yeah.
It's fucking awesome.
It's awesome.
She's putting on, she's the goat.
She's the best.
best thing they got right now.
What else we got here?
Big fans.
They ask something else.
Let's see.
Things you hope get left behind in 2022.
Huh.
Stop crawling on the stage.
I'm going to squish your fucking head like a group.
Like a little bug.
Like a great.
There is a level of,
we've talked about this.
Don't.
It sounds,
I don't want to sound like.
like an asshole. But I, I, I really think that anytime anyone is taking away from the band to be like,
look at me is bullshit. And that goes from my band, anyone's band that's not just like, don't do
this during harms. Like, I don't feel, I just think like. There's a difference between like having a
good time and enjoying yourself. And, and it, like, the fucking, the Euro crowds who do the like
rowboat thing. Yeah. You're killing me. I'm,
I'm dying as you're doing that.
But I will, they, the bands ask for it.
Like, Amonimarth asks for that.
They say, like, roll brothers!
And, like, that's what they do.
Because they're fucking pirates or whatever.
So that makes sense.
Okay.
But you're saying just like, I'm a guy.
I'm not a pirate.
I got you.
I never pirated.
People have rowed to your bands?
Absolutely.
Oh, wow.
Barbecue Beach Fest, Germany or something.
They are rowing.
Germany, known for barbecue and beaches.
And beaches.
and I guess
definitely seen like push-ups in the pit
which is just like,
okay, cool.
See, that,
I'm not for,
I'm not pro push-up.
But it's not as bad.
It's not as bad to me
because that's like
this music makes me want to do a push-up.
You know,
and that's,
hey,
yeah,
much like,
much like fighting.
I'm not psyched
that you're taking away
from the performance,
you know,
but,
I'm,
I'm glad to know that this is what the music I've written makes you want to do.
Especially Temptation by Hormsway.
Dude, that was un...
Did we talk about that at all?
No, not really.
Maybe a little bit in one of the minis, but not.
Holy God.
Harm's Way, like, purposefully plays temptation in the middle to create kind of a lull.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
You tell me.
What did you say?
You tell me.
It's like that was with intention, right?
It was very much intentional to create like a bit of a valley.
a little breather.
And for us, too, you know, because it's like chill for all of us to play kind,
except for Casey.
He's busy the whole time.
But, and it's just like a fun.
Dude, that was the song where on Cannibal Corpse.
We played it for like a week and then we cut it for and replaced it with mind control
because we thought like, oh, the metal crowd's not really digging it.
And then on the last day in the green room, Alex from Cannibal Corpse was like, oh, yeah,
you guys stop playing temptation.
Why'd you do that?
And we were like, oh, oh, my God.
So it was just like.
Yeah, now it's just like, well, if we feel like it, let's fucking, that song rock.
And then you played it at the lit ass hardcore fest.
And there was, I wouldn't call it a fight.
It was a brawl.
It was a battle.
A battle.
You created a battle.
Not even during the heavy part.
No, it was the shoegaze part.
Yeah.
You guys are just going, man, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, man.
And they're just fucking like, yeah.
Yeah, that was, that was really weird.
And I don't.
It was awesome.
It was weird.
It was badass.
I loved it.
And we didn't stop because you could see security.
I mean, everybody had for the children was awesome.
Like everybody working.
Security was all over everything.
Everybody was cool.
So it was fun.
I'm not in.
God,
this is.
Astro world,
dude.
Astro world fucked everything.
Because now everybody's like,
this guy's elbow is,
he bumped it.
And plus also like I don't want to get Nate in heat.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like if the promoter is like a friend of yours, like you got to kind of have to consider that, I think.
But he would say, Nate would be like, don't fucking stop.
It's, it's, it's, it's tough conversation to have because on one hand, it's hardcore music.
Right.
How many times?
I've been knocked out two or three times probably.
Have you really?
Cold.
Wow.
All of them I was under 18.
And the terror did not stop, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm not like, why the fuck did.
Terror stop.
Terror did one of my favorite things
during their set.
What's that?
They stopped because someone got hurt.
And they,
when they went back,
they just went,
J-J-J-J-Kaganah,
oh,
Bukagana.
Like, they all just went right back into it.
The first tour we ever did with terror
during Spit My Rage,
someone dove, got hurt,
got taken out,
and like 10 minutes later,
they kind of just went,
and did-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-
and just went straight.
They probably have,
contingency plans for
Yeah. It's just funny how
they know they just know like the part
and it just takes the energy level
immediately, if not more.
Yeah, it's badass. I think
there's a time and place to stop.
Yeah. I don't think a fight
is an appropriate place to stop.
I get the Jasta
perspective of like, hey,
I don't want to get sued.
But like
momentum ain't getting sued
for if somebody's fighting.
for the children, you know,
somebody's getting beat up,
but that's all.
Yeah.
Like a corpse,
when you look out and you just see a corpse on the ground,
yeah,
maybe stop.
But in the end,
but it's like,
it kills the vibe.
I don't like a person who is like visibly very new to hardcore
going on stage when that happens and being like,
stop the show.
Yeah.
It's not,
it's fucking,
And just like that was happening during Living Weapon at the pre-show at midnight hour.
Like a person just on stage like on stage like in front of John being like stop.
Wow.
Like I'm never going to stop for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not, this has nothing to do with you.
I'm not, I'm not listening to you.
You don't work here.
I'm not.
I don't know you.
Yeah.
And surely they're like we know their hearts are in the right place.
But they don't.
Of course.
there is a level of danger and fun and adrenaline that's mixed in with seeing this kind of music and blah blah blah so I get that we've definitely stopped for like visibly broken limbs
pools of blood and that's and again that's what the person on stage is maybe trying to tell you yeah yeah yeah 99% of the time it's not that bad it's not it's not yeah you're right you're right we've all been concussed and and that's I don't want to sound like where it's like well my life fucking
sucked? Yeah, yeah. So your shit, too, because it's not, but it's, the reality is it's never,
it's most of the time not that bad. Yeah, I can't think of, there was one, one time ever at a
rumble in Chicago during trial, a kid dove and he's still paralyzed to this day. And that was
bad. That was one time. That was one, one time in, you know, 20 years of going shows.
I know trials ass stopped. Yeah, they, they stopped. I know fucking trial stopped. I know Greg
had some shit to say about it. And I, I was,
We'll say, you know, it was Shane's Fest, and I was right by him when it all happened.
I watched him grab a briefcase and sigh.
Because, like, now there's a whole.
So I don't know.
I'm very torn on the subject.
But that was, what happened was trial played Burning Fight, and that had like a crazy video where everyone's diving nonstop.
People do a thing in this kind of music a lot where they try to like recreate the thing, you know, whatever, the viral kind of thing.
is.
You know, people want us to talk about the Fubu guy.
We can get into that.
Okay.
And so people were doing that at this rumble and a kid dove and he broke his neck.
It was brutal.
That's a nightmare.
That was also when we were loading in and D.YS was sound checking.
They headlined, I believe.
And Dave Smalley line check, he sound checked with,
come Mr. Talleyman.
Tally me,
Bona.
Ha, no.
But like, and everyone in the band was like, yeah, that sounds, that sounds pretty good.
Like, there was no giggling.
It would, he, he sound checked.
Like, guys, guys, hang on, I got to do my.
Daylight come.
You want to go home or whatever that song is.
Daylight.
The Calypso?
Unbelievable.
Fubu guy.
I haven't seen him.
I don't, I don't really, all I know is he dives.
And he wears that.
Yeah, I forget where he debuted was, was F.
I think it was F.
F.
was the big one where everybody was like, yo, this guy in the Fubu jersey is just diving his hat.
He's crazy.
Probably.
And which was awesome.
Yeah.
And now there's like meme pages about it that I don't think he's running.
Mm-mm.
He's still wearing the jersey.
I imagine he might listen to the show, you know?
I love, I appreciate what you're doing, Mr. Fibu, man.
Mm-hmm.
But the culture that he's created.
You know?
Yeah.
It's much like, like, like,
Like, a lot of people couldn't get into typo negative because of the typo negative fan, you know?
Oh, interesting.
Just these freaks.
The post-fubu stage dive world that we're living in now is, you know, there's one guy doing it.
Yeah.
You know?
The meme page, I don't know if we, even the fucking meme page guy, I think this is the show.
I can't.
As somebody who, you know, like, we talk about the running man all the time, but like, we don't run any of those things.
and there's like a Facebook with like tens of thousands of followers for that meme.
I guess they benefit you directly.
Yeah, for sure.
So I don't, who, I mean, do, do whatever you want because I'll say this for the Fuba Man from what I've seen.
He's just diving.
He's just diving.
He's not being like, look at me.
He's doing his thing.
He's rocking.
He's there to enhance the set.
So I'm down.
And I'll never.
I'll never resmurch that.
No, I'm down.
That's fine with me.
Yo, here's this next one.
Somebody said to talk about Top Gun Maverick.
I still haven't seen it.
You're a fucking...
But here's why.
Here's why.
When it came out, I was...
For whatever reason, I wasn't able to see it in the theaters.
And I was told, you gotta see the theaters.
It is why you go to the movies.
Exactly.
It is a masterpiece.
So I apologize.
I fully planned to see it.
I almost watched it on the plane on my phone.
Oh, my God.
Exactly.
So I didn't.
I would have killed you to do.
dead. Next
time you're here, we'll put it up on the big
screen. We'll watch it. Let's go to
the movies. Yeah, I don't know that it'll still be in the movies.
Especially in Tampa. I know they do.
Well, I would love that. I would love to see it again
in theaters. You know what I was thinking too?
What's that? It's something that I would love. If anyone's listening
has an inn with the castle in Tampa, if that's still there, it's like a
goth club. Imagine if we could
like go and film do anything for Hardler at the golf club.
Is that the one that they all hid after the show?
It's got to be.
I know you'll be there, you sick son.
No, no, no, no.
You'll be there.
Yeah, I'll be there.
Movies of 2022.
What came out that you liked?
The Batman did come out this in 2020.
So definitely that.
I haven't seen the new Knives out yet.
I just watched it yesterday.
I liked it.
I liked it a lot.
I don't know, dude.
The new All Quiet on the Western Front was cool.
I haven't been.
I don't think I went to the,
theater this year.
At all? No, I don't think so.
What the fuck? Yeah.
Not a one time. I don't
believe so.
That's crazy to me. Yeah, I think it was
all at home viewing for me this year so far.
I still got a few days.
Yeah, is there anything in there
now you want to see? I want to see Knives out, for sure.
I'll take a gander.
What I saw, Barbarian? That was cool.
Great movie. I thought that was fun.
Here's a few things that I just, I rated on Letterbox recently.
Yeah, yeah, good call.
I gave Glass Onion four stars.
It's out of five?
Out of five.
I think, you know, the ending falls apart a little bit, but I think it's still great.
I think Janelle Monet is awesome.
I think there was the same problem in the first one.
No, the first one is airtight, dude.
Rock solid.
Maybe, maybe from a, like, a logistics standpoint, but I don't think the payoff was great.
I love the payoff.
But you knew who it was.
I didn't.
Maybe I'm stupid.
You'd think you do, but then they subvert it and then they give it to you.
I think with this, with the first one, that last frame of the coffee mug on the balcony is so good.
Oh, that's amazing.
That's perfection.
Yeah, that's incredible.
That payoff to me is great.
She's, oh yeah, she's perfect.
She's a, she's a, she's an angel, right?
Out of the day, Armist.
She's a literal angel on her.
She's Cuban, right?
I don't know.
I believe she's from Cuba.
Angels are Cuban.
Gamble del Toro's Pinocchio, I gave three and a half.
Liked it.
Violent Knight, three and a half.
I would give it three and three quarters.
I loved it.
Maybe four.
Really?
Pearl, I gave three and a half.
Black Adam.
You seen this?
No, no, no.
I've only heard terrible things.
Dude.
How do I describe this movie?
It's like Encino Man,
meets
Conan the barbarian
meets
which sounds awesome
I was just gonna say
the action
is amazing
like every second of it
yeah
and then like
everything between it
is morbius
you know
it's the same thing
as Morbius
between the action
you're watching
Morbius
but otherwise
the action's great
but the rock
doing the whole like
my character's stronger than everybody else's is like is exhausting.
Yeah, yeah.
It's, it's, what is the, I don't know anything about DC.
So Black Adam is whose rival?
Shazan.
Shazan.
They were given their powers by the same wizard.
Gotcha.
But Black Adam got him first and used him for naughty stuff, basically.
So that's why the wizard gave Kemp.
Captain Marvel, aka Shazam, their powers, and then they became bitter rivals.
Now, why is it Captain Marvel, aka?
Captain Marvel, they can't use the name anymore.
But it was originally Captain Marvel.
Yes, Captain Marvel.
Gotcha.
So Black Adam is insane.
Would you give it?
They cut out all the, I gave it two stars.
Okay.
Great post credits that now means nothing.
Right.
And then I gave, Don't worry, darling, one and a half.
What a pile of shit.
That Elvis movie came out.
I liked that.
You liked the Elvis?
Yeah,
I thought it was fun.
Yeah,
I thought it was fun.
Wow.
Everybody fucking,
I didn't see it.
And I love Elvis.
Yeah,
I love Elvis.
I thought it was fun.
It was pretty intense,
pretty gritty at times.
It was good.
I liked it.
You added it here.
Finally,
somebody liked Elvis,
and his name is Boehler.
Why can't I look up movies I've watched?
I don't know.
Letterbox fucking sucks.
It's actual garbage.
It's crazy.
Trying to think.
think. I'm in the, I'm, I'm, I just started 1923 for anybody who is into Yellowstone or 1883.
I haven't watched 1883 or that. Um, okay. Dude, it's Harrison Ford. I know. It's crazy. Pretty
dope. Uh, everything everywhere was this year. Oh, yeah. That's right. Did you see it? No, I was
afraid to cry. What? I heard it's like a tear movie like you cry. You're such, you're being a pussy about
potentially being a pussy. I. That's pussy squared. You're pussy squared. You're pussy squared. You're
Pussy Squared?
You were pre-pussy about everything everywhere?
You're like, I might get emotional about this, so I can't see it.
Sometimes there are movies that I'll get a vibe that I don't think I'm, like,
in the right headspace for.
Yeah.
I understand that.
Then fuck off.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, no, no.
This isn't a pre-pussy movie, though.
This isn't a P-P-P squared movie.
I can be mistaken, but I was under that impression.
So step the fuck off is what I'm saying.
You see what I'm saying?
But here's the thing.
But do you see what I'm doing?
You don't like a beautiful message?
I do, but is it sad?
No.
Oh, okay.
It's a beautiful message.
I don't, yeah, no, there's nothing to, you don't have to worry about that.
Did the Northman come out?
The Northman, Northman.
The Northman came out, man.
That was good.
I don't know that I'll ever watch it again.
Exactly.
It wasn't amazing.
It was good, pretty violent, fun.
Ethan Hawk was pretty dope.
Oh, he's great.
Dude,
the black phone was this year?
Oh,
yeah,
that was fun.
Oh, my God.
I didn't,
I'll tell you,
when I started watching it,
I didn't think
there was going to be like murder.
Like,
I really,
you know what I mean?
Like,
I thought it was just going to be like
implied.
It was a dark movie.
Yeah,
it's very dark.
It was good, though.
That he was like,
there was like some sex stuff
potentially with these kids too.
Oh, prey came out too.
Pray is so sick.
Pray was awesome.
I had a great time.
Brace.
Bray's like the second best predator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I loved.
Dude,
the predator is starting like snake,
bigger thing,
bigger thing.
And then human.
It was like a video game.
It was,
it was very clearly like,
oh,
this is the first one.
So sick.
Like this is the first time
one of these came here.
And then they realized like,
yo,
humans are worthy.
We should come back
and try to hunt them.
So cool.
That's badass.
Yeah,
that's badass.
That was a lot of fun.
I should watch that again.
Smile.
Did you like smile?
Did you see smile?
I didn't see smile because I heard it.
Was it good?
Was it good?
I loved smile.
The marketing shit was incredible.
It was so good.
The trailer scared me.
Yeah.
It's scary.
Yeah.
There's, okay.
So there's a, there's like a horror trope that I historically shit on.
Yeah.
And it's called the ghost is trauma.
Uh-huh.
That's my expression for it where it's like, oh.
It's like, oh.
There's, it's like, it's like, the ghost is.
ghost is was actually trauma all along.
Okay.
Where it's like,
oh,
it wasn't haunted,
I'm traumatized.
Do you have an example of that?
So that movie,
I think it's called the lodge,
with the little fucker from it,
and some other person.
The little fucker from it is in the lodge.
And one of the little fuckers from it.
His name is fucking Cooper Jekylls or something.
I don't know.
I don't know what his name is,
but he's the little.
He's a little fucker from the lodge.
And the twist is literally that the ghost is trauma.
You know, there's no ghost that's just trauma.
Yeah.
And with smile, I was worried that the ghost would be trauma.
And then it is and you're not in it, but in a way where you're like,
this rocked.
Did you ever see identity?
Who's in identity?
Cusack, Ray Leota.
Oh, yes.
Where they're in a motel and people start dying, dude.
It's good stuff.
Love that movie.
Very fun thriller for any movies.
The ghost is not trauma.
No.
Something else.
Beyond orange chicken at Panda.
Have you had that?
Haven't had it.
Why would I?
No offense.
That's what I'm saying.
They got a double wide tray of regular orange chicken waiting for it.
The biggest vat you've ever seen.
Like, you know, dude.
When it's fresh.
Oh.
Dude.
when you walk in and they're filling up the bowl.
Oh my God.
But I will say, lately.
And to any pandistas listening to this, you need to step up.
They've been harsh with them servings lately.
Oh, the sizes.
It makes me not want to go.
Yeah, because it should be one, two, three, pack it down.
Yeah, pack it down.
And if it's unpacked in any way, I had another piece.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got told, and a lot of time I'll go like, could I, could you?
Can you get more?
And they're like, they get it.
But lately it's been like, sorry, this is the serving.
Chipotle did that for a minute where it was like one ladle is what you get.
And they've stopped.
Have they?
They've stopped.
When I do go in person, they'll do one big ladle and then like a few more, which is what they used to always do.
But there was like a year period where I was like, this is the serving size.
Well, they need to do something.
something to fight the fucking, what is it?
What do they got in the lettuce?
Ebola?
Yeah, they got Ebola in the lettuce.
They got to fight that scandal somehow.
They got to pick up the servings.
I've never got any E. coli or anything like that.
Knock wood.
Knock wood.
Turnstile in Taco Bell commercials.
Amazing.
Coolest thing ever.
Goated.
That's the coolest thing ever.
There is no other commercial I would want to be in.
No, 100%.
That's the coolest thing ever.
They've been...
Taco Bell has been subconsciously fueling hardcore for generations now.
Yeah.
How true is that?
Now it's conscious.
They're aware.
They're fully...
So that's good shit.
Speaking of good shit.
Jeremy from Tushay guest appearance in the Weird Al movie.
I haven't seen the Weird Al movie.
I haven't seen that either.
Love Mason Jeremy.
Love Weird Al.
Love Radcliffe.
I was just gonna say.
Top three Weird Al.
Weird Al tracks.
I have no time.
You're going to hate this, but I have no time in my life for musical comedy whatsoever.
You don't even like Lonely Island or anything?
I don't know what that is.
You've never seen Pop Star?
Pop Star, never stop, never stopping?
With Andy Sandberg?
No.
You've never seen Pop Star.
Sorry, no.
I can't believe this has never come up on the show before.
I've told you this before that.
I like, I don't hate, I actually think Weird Al is cool.
Like, I like him.
You don't fuck with that.
Amish Paradise, bro? Yeah, of course. Like, of course. That's the, that's, you do then.
No, no, no, no. But, but, but like, I have never and I've only ever heard or seen that by accident.
I would never sit down. But every time you see it by accident, you're like, this is, there's nothing better than this.
But like, I got the joke. I got it and I was over it the first time, you know?
What about fat? I just, I'm, yeah. You like fat? I mean, I know it. I had running with scissors when I was a kid.
Shamu.
I think he's hilarious.
I think he's very funny.
You know what I mean?
It's just not...
Dude, the video with the beginning,
the guy, you ain't fat.
You ain't fat.
That's good shit.
You gotta watch Popstar.
When we did the...
You'll like this.
I probably have told you before.
When we did the At the Gates tour,
the tour manager,
Melissa had just gotten off
a two-year Weird Al tour.
And she said that like...
And she was wearing like every day
like a weird owl.
Like Melissa like embroidered track.
jacket, you know.
Fucking badass.
And she said that
that his crew are like
the best.
Like it's like the best environment
that she did it for two years.
I would wholeheartedly believe that.
Yeah.
You got to watch Pop Star.
Yeah, I don't know.
I would say you should watch it.
I'm telling you, no joke.
I would sooner watch Annie.
Without, without exaggeration,
Beau.
It is the best comedy of the 2010s.
But it's a musical?
No.
It's a mockumentary.
Oh, okay.
It's like Spinal Tap, but about like a Justin Bieber-esque.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I'll watch that.
It's literally about Tor.
Great.
I thought you were saying it's like, even though I did like La La Land, I thought you were saying it was something like that, like a narrative musical kind of a thing.
No.
But I did like La La Land.
The song, but you will hear in the movie that the songs.
Yeah, they're fake songs, but they are.
A, incredible, B, hilarious, C, like so brilliant.
Okay. Okay, I'll watch that.
Like the, okay, the main song in the movie is called Finest Girl,
parentheses, Bin Laden's song.
And he sings this song about this girl that he,
that wants him to fuck her like the U.S. government fucked Bin Laden.
And in the song, he's like, I don't get what she's saying, but I'm going to do it.
Oh my God.
So you got to watch Pop Star.
Okay.
Best comedy of the 2010s.
Somebody sent a picture of a double Big Mac.
I've had it many times.
What did you think?
Love it.
Huge fan.
I would double it every time if I could.
It was in...
Gone.
Gone.
It's gone.
It's gone. The McRib.
Forever?
Tour's over?
It's over.
Wow.
Their final set for me was Boston.
I had the last one there.
You did.
That was the last one ever sold.
Ever.
Top ten moments in hard lore.
Oh, that's fun.
That is fun.
Let's see.
definitely like we've got well i don't know if i could do 10 but you know we could do like a handful
the you guys haven't seen it yet but the next hauntler coming out yeah the ending is just
it's good stuff it's outstanding that was cool uh when we did the first hauntler and that kid
knew us yeah that was good that was funny yeah um i've really liked
i've really liked the q and a's like what we're doing right now love this
stuff. It's so much fun to me.
There's just no pressure. It's just the
boys. The Christmas one? Love the
Christmas one. Amazing. Even though, you know what's
funny is I remember you saying
that you felt like you could tell you get
sleepy and I watched it back and by
the end of it you definitely are just. I'm so
tired. So sleepy. When we were
recording that, it was crazy. I was
sick. I was like mid
illness. Donuts.
I only donuts, right?
Not a real meal. I was six
donuts deep in that video.
So if you go back and watch the Christmas one, just know that I was a half a dozen Krispy Cremes deep.
You can watch Colin's eyes get heavier and heavier.
It's amazing.
They start to set after the presents.
That was really fun.
And you know what?
Probably like flying out to Sound and Fury.
Like very last minute.
Yeah, that was cool.
That was just like, hey, what if we did this?
That'd be crazy.
And then that became like the rest of our year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And already a lot of this upcoming quarter.
The FaceTime with Clippa and the Just,
this episode. Oh man.
It's one of my favorite hard lore moments of all time.
Calling the front desk at the hotel.
That was good.
That was good. Dude, the whole Furnace Fest recap episode.
Yeah, that was so much fun.
Yeah.
The, the, you in the bathroom recording.
It was a perfect storm.
The knock on the door story that we still don't know the answer to.
Still don't know. We'll never know.
And it's like, but here's the thing.
We've, we've traveled together since.
Yeah.
You know?
And there's no, there's no Tom Fuller or shenanigans like that.
Yeah, but we don't always know each other's room.
Like this was different.
I went to your room in Boston.
Yeah.
I was in there.
Yeah.
I didn't, I didn't know your room number.
At the Tuttweiler?
I mean, we talked about it.
Yeah.
I'll talk about it again because I won't be slandered on my own show, you know.
I won't have it by this man that is Pussy Square.
about everything.
I just heard it was like a
like gone girl,
just like an intense, like sad movie.
No, dude, it's, it is the most fantastical.
Okay.
Visually insane thing.
Cool. Great.
And it's like a, it's a mother daughter story
over everything.
Okay.
Everywhere.
But then the dad stuff is,
like ends up being.
And dude,
it's fucking data.
from Temple of Doom grown up.
Oh, really?
Not data, short round.
Data from Goonies.
But also data.
Yeah.
And he's like amazing.
He's perfect in it.
Okay.
It's great.
I'll watch it.
Any other hard lore moments come to mind.
Don't call me pussy swear it.
I swear to God.
You know, okay, we can't make it a thing.
That's going to be it.
I mean, it's too late.
It's too late.
Don't, don't, if you're listening to this, don't do it.
I don't think so.
It's just they're all good moments.
I'm really starting to,
I will say,
Colin,
I'm really starting to like the longer in-person interviews.
They're all kind of impromptu.
Yeah.
We never know.
There's never a plan.
But they're always like,
oh,
this rocks.
Yeah.
Like they're always like the silly.
And that's why they go long.
It's because we're just like,
the Mark one,
the Cey one.
that one's good.
Yeah.
I'm excited for people to hear that one.
Very fun.
Harm's Way playing shows again.
Is that exciting?
Yeah.
It felt really good.
We have a fest in February and mid-February in Orlando.
I don't know if anybody's going to be there.
It's kind of like, it's not really like a hardcore fest or anything.
It's like a, I forget even who's headlining, but it's just kind of like a one-off that we got offered that's going to make sense.
And there's some other stuff coming up that we're,
both going to be playing, I believe.
But like, so I'm really looking forward to that.
But I really, I'm ready to get back in the band for a couple more tours.
The seal is broken.
It's time.
Yeah, that felt really good.
Playing felt really good.
It looked and sounded really good.
It felt really good.
And it's like, and this is not, I'm not knocking other bands here, but like clearly you guys have played so much more.
And you guys practice.
every week to this day.
You guys sounded professional
in a way that not many bands do.
Which felt good.
And that was, you know, that was just how sound we didn't,
we don't have like a sound guy or anything.
Yeah, and you know that I would never blow a whisp of snow smoke up your ass.
I would suck it.
I was sooner suck it out than blow it up your ass, you know.
Brawl out.
So you're talking about that?
Yeah.
The All-Out brawl, AEW All-Out brawl?
I would love to talk about that.
For those not initiated in wrestling lore, I know that a lot of you listening, don't give a fuck about that.
But this relates to wrestling because CM Punk is a straight-edge warrior.
After their biggest pay-per-view of the year,
CM Punk goes on the microphone live at a media scrum.
With the belt.
With the championship.
Broken.
He's injured.
He's not feeling good.
but he just won this match
and then he goes and burns the whole place down.
He goes and airs all this,
this like secret stuff
that is in a way that,
and gets the wrestling world talking about a real thing
in a way that hasn't been done
since the Montreal screw job in 1990s.
Or his own pipe.
Or his own pipe bomb thing,
but that was like,
yeah, that was,
if that happened on WWTV,
therefore it was like, oh, okay,
there has to be some air of,
Totally.
Fictitiousness to this.
Yeah.
This thing was like that boss of the company is sitting next to him looking uncomfortable as he's saying all this stuff.
And the fallout to this is still ensuing to this day.
I have no personal connection to the matter.
I don't know.
Nothing that none of y'all don't know.
Yeah.
I think, I think, I hope that there's money to be made out of this and that he comes back and that he and the elite can
have a nice little program together and make some money.
Imagine the comeback.
And like here's the thing.
I don't,
I miss most of the punk's career, period.
Because I was out of wrestling by the time he was in WWE.
I was long gone.
Right.
I was at his comeback in Chicago,
and I've been, you know,
a fan of wrestling, you know,
for the last couple years again.
So like,
I was so disappointed
just that like I didn't get to see this dude
do a bunch of cool stuff
so I really hope I agree with you
I really hope that like there's something
or that it's all a work
and not of it happened
that part seems unlikely
due to like lawyers and stuff
and whatever being involved
but like also
you know get it to get like
if you just if you just have a conversation
and you can make millions of dollars off of this.
So much money.
That's my stance.
So like imagine like MJF is on a crazy tyrannical run.
Does some dastardly thing and there's a punk comeback?
Yeah, the roof would blow, the roof would explode.
But is he like broken?
He was for a minute and then he wrestle again and it was awesome.
So who knows?
He's fucking straight-edge, bro.
He's invincible.
Apparently not.
No, no.
Superman's invincible, but even he has his crypt tonight.
You seen that meme?
That's a good one.
I'll put it in here.
Quip two-night.
Wingstop chicken sandwich, somebody said.
You had it yet?
I haven't.
I have not had it yet.
I'm open to it.
Oh my God.
That reminds me.
Winkstop has golden Carolina barbecue now.
What is that?
Is that like sweet?
It's unreal.
It is,
it's like a mustardy barbecue.
Dude, you have to get it tonight.
I could.
You have to order it tonight.
As soon as we wrap,
I need to see you place the order.
Okay.
I'm telling you it's unbelievable.
Okay.
To the point where even
I had, like Lana had a boneless one.
And I ate the boneless one and was still like, this is, this is something else.
It's Tuesday too, so there's a deal tonight.
I think it is boneless wing night, actually.
It is.
I don't adhere to any of that.
You know, I just, I do my thing.
I eat my wings.
I can carry on.
I don't worry about what's going on there.
The deals are for other people.
Dude, do you go to AMC?
Is that your primary theater?
Uh, regal.
Do they have a program or something?
Yeah, they have some kind of bullshit.
Yeah.
You don't do it?
It's not a great theater.
So, dude, the Arklight going away, like, sucked.
It's one of the worst things to happen in human history.
Yeah, it sucked.
I really liked going there.
We were part of the thing and blah, blah, blah.
And it was easy to get to.
Founder Circle, brother.
So is it gone everywhere?
It's gone everywhere.
Apparently, Hollywood is coming back as Arklight.
Okay.
Because that's the Cinerama Dome.
It's like the most famous theater in the world or whatever.
Yeah.
Other than the Groundman's Chinese one.
It.
You put me on to it.
I did.
I did.
But I will say AMC Stubbs makes it definitely lessens the blow.
It's like three a month.
Three movies a week, bro.
For $24 a month.
That's crazy.
Three movies a week.
That's crazy.
Why?
would you not do that? Yeah. And there's still people who just go to the movies without that at AMC.
I've told you the story that I got my AMC card the day it stopped. Oh, your movie pass card.
I got that, thank you. I couldn't remember what it was called. I got the movie pass card the day that it was like,
hey, this is done now. Wow. I was late to the game. Poetry. Pure poetry. I love Stubbs. And my,
the Porter Ranch location where I mean I might be sharing a little too much the Porter Ranch location
is the one from the Nicole Kidman ad in the beginning of every movie no way have you ever seen
that spliced in with the sex scene from house of Gucci no she's like sitting and it's just lady
Gaga being like ah ah ah she's like it's fucking it is it is the theater I go to specifically
is the one where heartbreak feels good and the place like gotcha gotcha um
Uh, disgrace returned to the stage.
That was amazing.
That was awesome.
They killed it.
They played the perfect amount of songs.
They played my favorite song right in the middle.
Yeah.
They killed it.
Taylor sounded great.
He sure did.
He didn't throw up?
He didn't throw up?
I heard a little, but he'll never tell you.
But I know what I heard.
And I hear it.
I heard it every time.
Uh, somebody has top three albums of the year.
Do you have three that you love?
it's so tough dude i i don't i'm i'm very very bad at keeping up with new music um to the point
where it's like a fault of wow let's look up some lists yeah that's work where albums 2022
i definitely saw some like um oh dude pain into power terror
incredible oh incredible like what having that record that late in your
tenure as a band it's insane it's it's
insane. Also,
Todd playing,
I can't find the list I was looking at. Todd playing
with them was really cool
for the children. Like that we didn't even mention that,
but like that was really cool to see.
You know, what?
I was just thinking about when we saw him outside.
Yeah, I didn't recognize him.
He was, I mean, he was fucking...
He was straight up Marvel movie
Incognito. Incognito, yeah.
I could not.
His hat and glasses. And it was like,
I remember.
I say what's up
And he was like, what's up?
And then he saw you and like, you were just like,
I remember, I was like, dude, it's TXJ.
Yeah, yeah.
I forgot that the X is gone.
I got a thing.
Gridiron.
Gridiron age of apocalypse.
Did that speed record come out this year?
Yeah, that's an EP though, bro.
That's an EP.
Dead body?
Zeus.
There we got.
I was waiting for you to say it.
I was like, damn, this guy fucking hates me.
I said the high-vis record is probably my,
my number one.
Totally fair.
Really enjoy it.
I haven't given it.
I haven't absorbed it.
I've listened to it,
but I haven't heard it.
I got you.
Yeah,
I got you.
Every time I die breaking up.
Was that this year?
I think that was this year.
Because the last show was the Tid to season.
Oh, right.
Yeah, so it stands to reason.
Yeah, that was.
That rhymed.
Really was.
Good job.
It really did.
Tid the season stands to reason.
It's a bummer.
Every time I die,
I was a band that I,
like,
I looked up to in,
like,
in like an example since they were a band that,
dude.
Any band in hardcore or adjacent would love to a bit in their position.
They can fill rooms.
They can play anything.
You could play any fest,
any show,
any tour,
it doesn't matter.
They rocked.
They sounded great,
you know what I mean?
Great,
excellent group of people,
good,
like,
ethos on them and,
and everything.
from my experience with everybody.
And, you know, I really only keep up with Andy.
And I only know Andy.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'm, you know, I got to see him really briefly the other night.
And like, I love that.
I love that guy like an older brother, truly,
because he was just like so forthcoming and giving and easy.
They are the entity that if you come across them in the touring scape at all.
Yeah.
They're like, please let us help you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wonder if any, like, I feel like every band I know who's toured with them has been like, oh yeah, they're the best.
There's no.
Super DIY, super, just super down.
So that whole thing, especially with it being like pretty public and just kind of messy and not at all.
I'm sure how any of them would have wanted things to go.
That's a bummer.
And, you know, we had super early on, it was like the third episode?
And he was, yeah, third or technical, the third one we recorded.
Right.
Was with Andy.
So if you guys want to go back and hear his actual thoughts on it, go back and listen to it.
Because he talks about it pretty openly.
He was very generous.
Very generous with this new upstart podcast.
It sucks that I understand why that band had to stop.
And like I've heard enough to know like, okay, that was probably a good thing that it stopped for everyone involved.
But it sucks that that band is not.
not still out there just like rocking.
Yeah, like, despite all things, that's the saddest part.
I have a framed print on one of my walls of their van with a trailer in the mountains
that Goose, the drummer, took a picture of and sold.
And I just liked it because it like encapsulates.
It's like stars, mountains, and a van with the lights on.
And there's like someone vaguely sitting in a bench that you can see through the dome light.
And it's just like, it's like, yeah, that's what if you're,
feels like you feel like you're on a little spaceship when you're touring and they were like
the symbol of that just road warriors you know we're uh we're we're andy williams guys
stand hards first first and foremost first
butch big big butch we're we're we're we're we're with andy wherever he's going
we're with him tell matter uh i need to know who's shit in the turnstile pit this was very
controversial. Where was that?
At Bay Area.
That had to have been 2020. No, that was
2021 for sure. Had to been.
That was before the
God's Hate record release in October
at the same venue.
Aha.
So it was you.
You did the shit.
No, that was before we played there.
You planted.
You did a treasure map and buried
your own shit. That's not, no.
They were first.
I understand.
I couldn't have pooped.
No, no, no.
At the show, I wasn't there.
But please believe me.
Yeah, I don't know.
Who fucking, dude, we had a shit thing the other night for the children.
A dog.
Oh, my God.
No, that's the bo.
You think it was human shit?
I'm sorry to tell you that Sophia told me it was human.
Yeah, it was human.
There was a dog in the venue earlier, but it never went down there.
A man pooped on the floor of the green room.
I touched
at four the children
I had it on my hands
You had it on your hands
It was a man's poop
There was there was
There was
McDonald's in there
Burger King
Tamales
You name it
That really makes me
bummed out
Yeah
Jesus Christ
And Nick
from Hermsway
was standing there
While she was telling me
It was human
And he just kept going
Don't say it's human
Don't say it's human
He got it
He picked up
Chris's
kick pedals to help him bring him to the upstairs stage and just got it fully on his hands.
It is, I mean, I stepped on it in my Chicago Jordan Warren.
Yeah, yeah.
That's way worse than being on your hand.
That's irreplaceable.
And what's funny, too, is I heard that it made its way to that upper stage too.
It was everywhere.
It is remarkable how far poop can go.
With the, with the will, you could take inspiration from that in some ways, you know.
that with the right will
and then the right foot steps on you,
any piece of shit can go far.
Go to the top floor.
So don't be afraid to shit.
Ugh.
Yeah, I don't know about the turn style thing.
Like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
Okay.
Somebody asked about Bo sending fucked up audio.
Uh-huh.
Do you want to explain?
It's been a while.
It's been a while.
I've been good, right?
You've been great.
There's a few steps that have to be done.
And doing this kind of stuff, especially audio, can be really tricky.
Not everything just like works together.
So for those of you-
I mean, as we prove to ourselves when setting up my camera share at the beginning of this,
nothing works the same way twice.
Yeah, quite literally, not everything is plug and play like it's supposed to be and blah, blah, blah.
So in layman's terms, we record, I'm recording onto an SD card
in the roadcaster pro too.
I export that.
I send that to Colin through the multi-track
so I can have just my audio and the soundboard.
The guys, yeah.
And sometimes I was using, in order to compile and export,
I was using, I tried Ableton,
and I swear to God, Ableton and Reaper both fucked me,
which then fucked you.
Mostly fucked me.
mostly fucked you.
And what would happen is I would sit there for like 30 minutes while it compiled and everything and like walk away and then just said it, assuming that it worked and it didn't check it and it didn't work.
Now I use audacity.
Works every time.
Love the audacity of not using audacity before.
We do backup recordings too, so we're recording into OBS as well.
And Colin is recording onto Zoom as well.
So we're actually triple.
Triple back.
Because if he doesn't send me nothing, I still have this.
He has this, yeah.
So it won't sound quite as good, but it's usually what we do for guests as well.
So blah, blah, blah.
But I don't know.
It makes me feel like an idiot.
I don't do it on purpose.
You're not, I mean, tech stuff is hard.
Okay.
It's just really frustrating when things don't work the same way twice.
Yeah, that's, it's like, it's not user error at that point.
It's like your, it's something's fault.
Something.
Yeah, exactly.
So that can just be really frustrated.
There's a lot of that, but there's been less of that.
So the show is pretty fucking airtight.
I think we've been pretty good with audio.
Yeah.
This will be the best looking episode ever, too,
other than the in-person ones.
Yeah.
What's next?
That's it for the Twitch stuff.
Yeah.
I'm super excited about what we have kind of coming up.
And like, who knows what we have?
You know, that's like part of the fun about what the-
I want to go to Chicago.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I think I should do that.
Can I stay with you?
Of course. I got a nice couch.
God, never mind.
You got a hotel nearby?
No.
You know, Chicago was like L.A. in that like any hotels kind of downtown, you wouldn't.
It would either be crazy expensive or you just wouldn't want to stay there.
There's no like Polish family in your building that is.
There is an empty second floor that I can get you into.
There we go.
And then all the other hotels are in the same as you said.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, I don't know.
What do you think, Colin?
Wrap the year up.
Just wrap it up.
Put a bow on it.
You know, 2022 was hard door time, baby.
Yeah, big time.
23, hopefully still is.
I think it will be.
Yeah.
I mean, anybody's what that's why.
We were psyched when in a week, an episode got a thousand.
A thousand.
Between video and audio.
We'd be like, we hit a thousand, baby.
Yeah.
We're clearing, we're clearing 10K, no problem throughout, in the span of a week now,
depending on the guest.
And that just feels crazy.
It's not lost on us.
No, no, we touch each other constantly.
Constantly, just through stats, you know.
Yo, this one's crushing this one.
That's crazy.
You know what?
We're still, we're still in kind of like disbelief mode.
Yeah.
What are you,
I,
what's your,
what is your,
what is your,
what is your,
what is your,
what is your,
like,
dream scenario
for this show?
For us?
Yeah.
It is a weekly
thing like this.
Mm-hmm.
Maybe just us
every week.
But then.
In person with guests.
What,
my,
my,
my,
my,
my dream idea is a mix
between
insomniac with Dave a Tell
and like,
ghost hunters
combined.
God.
I would love to go to a city.
I think we said this before,
but like a city like Louisville or something, right?
We watch Knock Loose play.
We go to eat at their favorite spot.
And then we go check out a scary thing
or like the thing to do, whatever it is.
It doesn't have to be scary, but that would be fun.
I think the next Hauntler is the closest thing to that.
Very close.
We had a pretty good meal there too.
Well, the one item.
The role.
The role.
Everything else was garbage for sure.
But what can you do?
But the role was damn good.
You have any closing thoughts from For the Children or 2020 that you want to leave the people with?
For the Children is like, is it the coolest fest?
I know it wasn't always like a fest, right?
So I played the very first one.
You know, from the beginning it was just, what inspires me is it's like these outcasts,
that get side eyes and looks everywhere else they go in the world,
you know,
by people who aren't doing 1% of what they're doing
to help people in need, you know?
The scary guys who,
whose reputations as being scary and aggressive or whatever,
are doing this for truly no other reason than to give back to you.
And that's...
See, I mean,
even without having played, like, every year,
seeing the pictures of like the drop off,
the kids getting their toys,
like that stuff.
It's just like...
Dude, it's the best thing ever.
Seeing a kid pumped
because he's got a nerve gun.
Because that's the cool thing too,
is there's no like,
make sure it's like dinosaurs
and things that are like...
No, there's emphasis on like,
hey, make sure there's things
that teenagers would be psyched about
because kids of all ages
are going to be getting these things.
So cool.
It's important.
It is genuinely very important and very cool.
And it was a pleasure.
He had asked us a few times
and we never,
it just didn't work out
scheduling wise, blah, blah, blah.
So it felt really good to play
and to like be well received
and be treated well
and everything.
And I don't think,
I know I stressed a little bit
in the last episode
how good the harm's way set was.
But dude,
it was unbelievable.
It was really good.
We don't, you know,
we don't typically get stage dives.
We don't typically get like singalongs.
were kind of a horseshoe band.
Yeah.
But if the room is full, there's nowhere to go, baby.
And it often is so good.
So that was a lot of fun.
I'm just looking to see if I missed any here.
It definitely ended ending the year on like a high note.
You do anything for New Year's?
Do you give a shit about New Year?
Fuck New Year's.
I hate New Year's.
It is the worst.
I would rather legitimately celebrate Valentine's Day.
Oh, all day, dude.
Chocolate?
Chocolate.
Yeah, what's your favorite chocolate treat?
Like all of them?
One single one, you're like, I need a chocolate thing.
Yeah.
I'm going to the store.
You're at CVS.
What do you grab it?
Twix.
Twix is classic.
It's classic.
Oh, no.
You know what I lied?
I just remembered my go-to Reese's sticks.
Oh, I love a Reese's stick.
Holy shit.
You have you had the white chocolate kick-cat?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Outstanding.
Hold on. I'll be right back.
You know, many people call it the holiday season.
Many people call it Christmas season.
In the young household, it's Lindor Truffle season.
Oh, buddy.
The milk chocolate, Lindor Truffle.
What is in there?
Chocolate.
Milk chocolate.
Whatever it is, they should keep it up.
The Lindor Truffle is.
the best
like candy, sweet treat
of all time.
That's your number one chocolate thing.
Number one with a, like, nothing comes close.
I would say that's the closest thing would be the Snickers
ice cream bar.
That thing, you know what's funny? I don't like Snickers,
like normal Snickers. I'm just not a peanut guy.
The ice cream bar, I love.
It's a masterpiece.
I don't know what.
But it's like, Lindor Truffle, Snickers, ice cream bar,
Twigs.
There is.
Kit Kat.
Yeah.
You know what I like?
I like them keto reases, the fake ones.
Oh, dude.
I ate too many of those one time and I got.
You shitted?
Oh my God.
Nothing makes you go.
Another makes me go more than sugar alcohols.
Like sugar-free stuff is like, it's a diuretic.
It's awesome.
When you're doing keto, you need it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what got me into coffee.
Really?
was being, I didn't, I wasn't a coffee guy before I needed it as a utility on Quito.
Because you're so blocked up that the one coffee I had per day is like the one time I shit per day.
Yeah. Wow. And it was catastrophic every time.
I think by big four is Twix, Kit Kat. I love Kit Kat. Rees sticks. And then, dude, might, maybe controversial. I love Three Musketeers.
Yeah. I, I never think of.
about three musketeer. I know, but dude, you know what I really like? And this is funny to say, too,
is like sometimes like Halloween candy fun size. Yeah. Little. We talked about this briefly in,
like, around Halloween time. Hershey's cookies and cream. Are you fucking kidding me, dude?
I would say Lindorffle number one. Snickers ice cream bar number two. Hershey's cookies and cream
number three.
And
what is it?
I think it's the
Marzap?
There's a, it's a filled,
it's like the milk chocolate
Riederspot?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
With the marzipan in it?
Oh, not the marzipan one.
The milk chocolate,
milk chocolate,
milk chocolate Riedershersport.
There's a Ritter Sport
with like the crack,
a buttercracker in the chocolate.
Yeah, the cracker one is very, very good.
That.
Oh.
Ritter Sport.
For lack of a better word.
Yeah.
Go dummy hard.
It's like the one good thing about Germany.
Is getting a British sport.
You walk into that gas station and there's a wall.
You ever have an arrow?
No.
Dude, I think it's in Canada and Europe and it's arrow.
Oh, arrow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The air, the air bubbles.
Yeah, yeah.
Those are good.
As soon as it touches your tongue, it just evaporates.
Just evaporates, yeah.
So good.
When I was a kid, I liked Butterfinger a lot.
I don't really like them anymore.
It hurts my teeth.
They just make me think of art sims.
Totally.
So anyway, that's it for this week.
That's it for 2022.
Thank you all for watching.
We'll see you next year.
Oh, better look next year.
Bye.
